>>34217
i get now brand kava kava extract (30%)
$18 for 120 pills and you only need to take like 15 to get pretty awesome.
yeah

>>living in libturdachussets

god, I'm sorry for your unfortunate circumstances.

Dat feel when VAFag, legally keep FNX .45 in glovebox loaded without any "permit". Vehicle is my property.

>>34239
dat feel when AZfag and go around in public with .45XD on my hip when 18 and nobody ever says anything

>>34240
Maybe they should take your gun and give you a book, that was murder to read.

>>34239
my grandmother lives in vermont. i wish to move there one day. no state gun laws :)

depends heavily on the range. I live in a smallish town, there's one gun club in town that only supplies target stands and silouette plates and has four ranges: 40-200 yd rimfire rifle, 3-50 yd pistol, 20-250 yd rifle or pistol, and 200-600 yd rifle (there's a shot gun range but no one uses it, more on that in a minute). they require nra membership and have an annual $75 fee, but you can buy cmp ammo if you are a member. other than a gate code the range is essentially self policed by members, and all ranges are open to use at any time unless there is a scheduled competition. those competitions have entry fees usually $5-10 to pay for special targets/supplies/cash prizes for winners.
a little bit outside of town there's another range with 6 skeet ranges a trap range, as well as a pistol and a rifle range, I'm not sure about their membership policies, I've only shot there as a guest on the skeet ranges. you can rent guns from this range and buy ammo, but both are fairly expensive iirc, for skeet shooting you pay per match for your clays.

pic is a silhouette match on the rimfire range, the farthest targets are set at 110 yards.

Really depends on the range. In the big cities you'll have mostly indoor ranges, which are primarily for handgun shooting. Maybe they'll allow you fire a .22 rifle but centerfire rifles usually aren't allowed. You can bring your own gun and ammo, in which case you only have to pay range fees ($10/person where I go). You can also buy ammo there, which, depending on the range, can be expensive, or, if they sell reloads, might actually be cheaper than at the gun store. They will also usually have some guns to rent, the price of which can vary a lot from range to range. Eye and ear protection will be required, as mentioned above. If you don't bring your own they should have something to buy/rent.

Outdoor ranges are a lot more fun, honestly, since you can shoot bigger rifles, and the ranges are generally longer. They can also be a lot more informal, and may or may not have any guns for rent or even ammo for sale.

I'd look up ranges around you and call to ask about specific rules, prices etc.
If you're looking for a list of shooting ranges wheretoshoot.org is a great place to start.

>>34256
NRA membership, that is complete bull. The one I go to is all that except shotgun and you just hand the ornery old guy that runs it $5 to use it, he bitches at you if you make him pull out his credit card machine. Then you shoot guns at targets.

>>34266
yeah I'm not a huge fan of the nra, but if you can live with the lead times cmp ammo saves a bit of money

The only shooting range I've ever gone to was a very rural outdoor range. My friend's grandfather gave him his .30-30 and he wanted to test it out. He asked me to go with him because he is socially retarded and didn't want to go alone. All we brought was 30 rounds and the rifle.

The range was ran by one guy who had a little shed thing as an office. We had to sign in (name, address, phone number, current time) no ID needed, no fees. He asked us what kind of guns we had (just the .30-30), asked us if we had brought something to rest the gun on. We replied "no" and he just sighed. He said "Come with me." and we followed him to the back of the shed where he had some basic range stuff that you need. He let us use a rest and a spotting scope. He knew we were stupid and didn't know what we needed. We went over to the table and set everything up. I looked down range and there was nothing, so we again asked the rangemaster what we needed. He sighed again and pointed us towards the pile of political signs attached to two long pieces of wood. He gave us a few paper target and a stapler and went over and flipped down all the signs (pictured). My friend set it up about 50m away and we put on our ear protection (we somehow remembered to bring that) and finally got to do some shootan. After we were done, we put everything back where it was, packed up the rifle, signed out, and went home to finish our pressure cooker bombs. (Just making sure you're still paying attention)

About the range: There was a rifle section, and a pistol section. There was also a small area for skeet shooting. There were 8 tables at the rifle section and 5 at the pistol section. A small mountain of dirt separated the shooters from the targets and you had to shoot through these huge concrete pipes. There were two other people there and they were actually wearing overalls with no shirt on. Overall, the range was good for our purpose and the rangemaster couldn't be nicer. We're planning another trip there to do some skeet shooting with another friend.

>>34212
I prefer a rock-pick, but the concept is till the same (It has a point, but that's not the point.) I've had one in my hand since I was about 3 and have grown very comfortable with swinging one around; I don't get the same comfort if I pick up and ax or even a claw hammer.

Ball peen hammer. Fast, compact, many garages have them.

Though if we're going medieval a well sharpened shovel with a good balance is pretty damn good. And you're not limited to swings the same way as with clubs, which you can't do so well in hallways and such.

>>34212
FRIED CHIKEN?

I have a mini louiville slugger next to my bed when i sleep at night so if anyone came through my window instead of loading the rifle chillin over in the corner of my room i could just bash their head in as they come through my window.. i love the feel of the club in my hand. it feels like it's part of me (:

I chopped off the tapered, round end of an old shovel shaft and put a lanyard through the cut end, later on I got creative and hammered a wide band of metal plate around the business end. I don't expect to ever need it but it's heavy and tough and fast. 8/10 club IMO.

My next project is to locate and salvage a piece of metal rod at least 3' long and an inch in diameter that's springy and won't stay bent if it hits a tree or something.

>>34200
An integral part of any laser, is a mirror that can reflect that wavelength.
So yeah, maybe reflective armor will be a thing.

>>34191

>thread about one picture of Obama shooting a gun
>out of nowhere, something about laser guns and bitching about 2A

Yeah, you're retarded if you respond to this guy's posts.

>>34211
Yeah don't worry I will troll y'all till the end of time.


Or laser guns

>>34224
Or until Jericho bans you lolol.

>>34165

>>31378
I used to hit them on the head with a mallet while they ate out of my hand, but I felt like too much of a monster. At least when I shoot them I don't have to look into their eyes.

Good luck finding any .22 ammo. Just stick with a .22 long it has plenty of power for most .22 activity's and they are somewhat easy to find.

>>31383
Come on, don't you wanna see what kind of man they are?

Is there a real reason you need the extra power of a .22 mag? From what I've seen most people just get out a larger rifle at that point.

Story time.
Several years ago my dad and his neighbor had to kill off some beavers that were damaging property. One evening my dad, myself, my uncle, and the neighbor all ended up down there at the same time. My dad had a 12 ga and his .357, neighbor had a .22 mag, uncle had a .22lr and I had a pellet gun (I was young and my dad just wanted to make me feel like I was doing something). The neighbor had just bought the .22 mag, and was having doubts about it being powerful enough. My dad fucked one up unloading with the 12 ga and his .357 mag. I spotted another one and shot it with a pellet, hitting it in the side of the neck just under the base of the skull, wounding it. As it swam off my uncle and neighbor shot at it. We found the body a day later. The .22 LR pellet was in it's fur- hadn't penetrated. The .22 mag just barely penetrated the critter's skin, but was a non-lethal hit. Seems by pellet hit it at a thin area in the critter's coat, and ruptured its' corroded artery. causing it to bleed out. While I did have plenty of time to place my shot it was lucky that it actually penetrated. Upon hearing about this the neighbor sold his .22 mag because he already had a .22LR and a larger rifle (.243 IIRC), and by the time he used the .22 mag for anything he might as well have gotten out his .243 and not have had to worry so much about not killing him prey. I think he was also kicked in the nuts that an 11-year old with a pellet gun outperformed him with a 'real' gun.

>>33888

>corroded artery

>>34189

That's the photo I took btw, arrow shows where the round should be moving.

>>34189
For a second I though you were me but then I stopped being stupid.
That's The same ammo I use for carry and I haven't had any issues cambering

My only thought might be that the rubber plug is gripping on your feed ramp and not sliding. I'm not too sure on a solution to that, you could try cutting down the rubber a little of it so it doesn't catch.

>>34189

Does it do that with round nose too? I'd say just stop using that ammo in that gun and buy something else? trade it to somebody or something.

>>34198

Yeah I think it's the ammo.

Get a liberator
/thread

shamless self bump.
posting my rimfire sillouette rifle setups

top is a norinco clone of a browning takedown for hunter class(gun weighs <6lbs, trigger >2.5lbs), its a pretty cool little gun, the barrel and scope detach from the stock to fit in a backpack. I got it a few years back for $80 from a buddy who just wanted to get rid of it to make space for a new purchase. bottom is my baby the anschutz with aperture sights for standard class(gun weighs <10 lbs, no limit on trigger), it was actually my first gun, I got it about a decade ago when I was shooting with a youth group, it has a 2¼ lb trigger. I could put a scope on it but I first learned how to shoot with these sights and I do about the same either way and I like using something different.

whoops, thought I flipped that pic,
nb4dp, but ill post my dad's 10-22(hunter class) and 17hmr(not for competition, they aren't allowed at my gun club because the high velocity ammo wears their targets out too fast, he actually uses my norinco in standard class)

>>34159

I like that .17

Not a target shooter, but this was the first gun I ever bought. Smith and Wesson 22-A1, with a 7 inch bull barrel. I was just getting into guns and wanted to start on a .22. I told the guy at the gun store I wanted a .22 auto, and it had to be accurate and reliable. He showed me a handful of different .22's, including the Ruger MK III, but this is the one I ended up picking. Never regretted it once, super accurate, no problems at all.

Only much later did I realize this gun has the exact same dimensions as the Nintendo zapper, and this is why I liked the feel of it in my hand so much and decided to buy it.

>>34171
it's nice, on a bench it'll easily shoot half inch groups at 200 yards, shame we can't compete with it.
>>34175
one of the guys I shoot with uses one of these they shoot great, and I really like the integrated rail on it. this weekend one of the rail screws on the mkIII came loose during the first round, I put it back in with some locktite, but I had to finish the match before I could sight in my dot sight again. the rail came loose while my in the middle of my dad's turn, but before I shot so he ended up beating me in scoped with my own gun, and we both did better in open than scoped.

Man, that nigga dumb. Watch your muzzle. Watch your trigger finger. All the time.

>>34016

Yeah, I kind of feel for the man. It'd be cool if we get him one of those artificial legs or something.

>>34028

>Yeah, I kind of feel for the man. It'd be cool if we get him one of those artificial legs or something.

Why, so he can fuck that up too? That's like giving a new liver to an alcoholic. He wasn't responsible with the old one, why should we give him a new one?

>>33300
only morons use shotguns for defense shotguns are for hunting quail

get yourself a WASR 10

also I really don't understand how you can blow your lef off if you are following the four rules of gun safety

obviously if he pointed his shotgun at his leg he was ready and willing to destroy it.

whats more if his finger was on the trigger and pulled it, he was ready to shoot.

not treating it like it's loaded, either.
and i suppose he knew his target ( his leg ) and what was behind it

>>34148

Shotguns are better for not accidentally killing the neighbors.
Buckshot doesn't go very far after it penetrates a wall, if it does.
A 7.62 can go pretty far and still fuck shit up. I can go through a person, a wall, and into someone else.

This is called, over penetration.

>>34182
Which is why hollow-points (&c.) rock.

>>33521
Couldn't agree more.

>>33860
k, so that knife at least can be somewhat considered a tool. dusters dont have that luxury

http://www.security-wizard.net/brassknuckles.html

It's not british, but I have successfully ordered throwing stars from them and it gets through customs easily because of discreet packaging. They have good prices and a wide selection.

If I were you, I would just get a pair of fingerless sap gloves. They don't look like weapons (better surprise factor) and they have far less a chance of injuring the person getting punched. Also, they a comparably priced.

http://www.security-wizard.net/lafisapgl.html

I live in Canada, so I'm not sure if you can get shipping to your place, but if you can this site is THE BEST for inexpensive concealable weapons.

>>33860
Fistloads are still brass knuckles as far as the justice system is concerned. Better just to go around with a roll of quarters or do like I said in >>34178 and get a pair of sap gloves.

>>34179
alot of work gloves come with hard knuckles that i feel would work just as well as sap knuckles, taticool gloves for instance

>bump firing
>buying an expensive piece of plastic to do it

You kids these days. Woah check out this old guy doing it with his own two hands, not even using the belt loop trick. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIC8SMttjjo

>>34152
Thank you for showing me this.... i love you quite alot now.

>>34152
This guys dry sense of humor tickles my fancy
he should release more videos, hes pretty badass

>>34155
Maybe he can partner up with Hickock45.

Wait a minute...

>hickock
>rickhawk

Interesting.

bump firing doesn't really appeal to me, I've done it via the beltloop trick a few times, emptys the mag in second or so and has wider spray than a shotgun. you can't target shoot worth a damn , forget prarie dog shoots, and when I go plinking I like to shoot at a distance. on top of this, .223 is hard to find right now and it's fucking expensive when I can find it, this is a quick way to burn money.

>>34110

Yes but they are guns in that they hurl projectiles at people hoping to incapacitate them (possibly permanently) after all some people refer to air rifles as guns. The point of a gun is not HOW it throws the projectiles but the fact that it does.

Considering there are threads on here ( Usually by trolls) that have absolutely no useful info in them at all then they would be the "worst, most irrelevant" thread to hijack. Not a discussion about the possible future of firearms (or should that be just arms).

Besides which if the anti-gun lobby define their terms to tightly then an assault rifle using gunpowder/other chemical propellant may end up being baned but a coil/rail gun may not be covered and so remain legal. Lets face it some of the people wanting guns baned are so stupid they probably cant spell electromagnet

>>34113

While I agree with you, your last paragraph is making me laugh because you misspelled banned while saying gun banners probably can't even spell electromagnet.

wups

>>34114

Thats odd the spell checker corrected that. Well at least you had a laugh.

>>34113
except youve been necroing this shit for the past month. its like you've been having a conversation with your self. if you are truely interested in this on a technical level go over to tesla and talk about their considering they will understand everything better then we do

>>34140

The fact that your not interested in the thread and don't think anyone else would be doesn't mean they aren't and the fact that people have raised points and asked relevant questions suggests that I am not the only person who understands what is being said.

For the last week it's the posts by those who want this thread dead that keep bringing it to the front. I hadn't posted since the 9th until yesterday (a reply to a perfectly valid point about whether they are firearms) as there was no new info that I had to add.

If no one had tried to kill this thread it would have just fallen of the back of the list. Suggesting that the best way to kill it is for you to just ignore what I just said and not reply.

>>34115
Not JWs. They're Mormons IIRC.

>>34115

>420chan and ponies

>Trolling OPchan is absurdly easy, they tend to fly off the handle at anime images

Holy shit is that true? Last time I was there there's been bunch of tripfags there who avatarshitposted themselves.

Does an imageboard without the oldest known cancer truly exist

>>34136
IDK but im really tempted to find out.

Katana? What are you, a skinny 5'1" Asian girl? Go lash a claymore to it and be a man.