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BWN 2016 Edition by chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 17:42:47 EST ID:TXsxzsg0 No.548120 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old BWN is ~4 posts away from bump limit.
Bumpin on subby
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:13:06 EST ID:7jVSYuay No.549389 Ignore Report Quick Reply

435mg of Dihydrocodeine , 300mg of Pregabalin , 40mg of Diazepam ... adding 25mg - 75mg of Promethazine to the mix real soon .

feeling lovely , sipping on a Nestea - Pear & Honey flavoured Iced Tea , laying in bed with the missus .

i love drugs .

Faggy Chorrysidge - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:03:43 EST ID:FeKpha1W No.549392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Angry fucking bump time. I've been seeing the orthodontist for six years, and now that I'm a legal adult I'm finally fed up and done with all of their bullshit. They're trying to get me to get two new retainers for nightly wear, and I'm just fucking done with them scamming more and more money from my mom just so I can have microscopically better teeth.Going to them just reminds me of all the adolescent self hatred and feelings of helplessness that I've managed to at least reduce over the years. Sniffed a fat line to calm down.
daedrie !pr5VMTw.cM - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:36:47 EST ID:i/gSTxDP No.549393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My mouth is full of cavities because I don't have dental insurance or a mother who will pay for my dental bill and you don't hear me complaining.

Bump for kratom and cannabis before work. New kilo is coming in today and poppy seeds are coming tomorrow
Faggy Chorrysidge - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:53:59 EST ID:FeKpha1W No.549395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot that I wasn't allowed to complain about anything because other people have worse problems. Other people are walking around with missing limbs. I guess you don't get to complain about your cavities anymore.
Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:42:56 EST ID:B86Az58P No.549402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Everyone chiiiiiiiiill
0.7mg o acetylmorphone.
Fuck yeah.

value by Barnaby Benkinhene - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:09:59 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.549397 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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would you give yourself a painless disease that would kill you in 5 years for unlimited Dilaudid and pharmaceutical cocaine? or whatever chemicals you want?
pills !zkraGArAss - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:14:07 EST ID:35Vta0VO No.549399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:32:53 EST ID:B9ofBU8F No.549401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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why not just do a four year chemistry degree and learn to make hydromorphone yourself?

Did I get ripped off? by James Muvingspear - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:17:30 EST ID:CjAwRgsD No.549350 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have never tried black tar before because it's very uncommon in my area. Just got some and this shit smells like incense. I shot it and didn't feel anything. Did this mother fucker fill a bag with incense?
JVenom !b1B269E8M. - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:50:20 EST ID:yyKymM26 No.549352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hard to tell without a picture, lol, but I mean if it smells like incense, then yeah, probably. All the tar I've ever had generally smells like vinegar.
Rebecca Pommlelet - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 07:38:01 EST ID:M0spbPRs No.549386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol nigga did you just shoot up incense
daedrie !pr5VMTw.cM - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 14:39:45 EST ID:i/gSTxDP No.549394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If it smelled flowery, it could be opium but it's probably very unlikely. I don't know why you would IV a substance without at least identifying it beforehand
Sophie Bankinlune - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:13:55 EST ID:aofdufZ+ No.549398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How do you generally id a substance?
pills !zkraGArAss - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:18:02 EST ID:35Vta0VO No.549400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My way is look at it. From experience you can tell but since you seem new smell it. Should smell vinegary pretty nasty or taste it shit tastes chemically as fuck youll know
Someone tried ripping me off I was skeptical of him from the grtgo and cut the bag open and tasted it in the car tasted like nothing dude was like "oh some ppl say it doesnt taste like anything" mother fuck give my money back shit ended in a scuffle and a ripped $20 but at least I got my money back for the most part

Ban on Kratom by Albert Chorryville - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:14:52 EST ID:noaXQZR+ No.549326 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>be dude who tries Kratom
>it's ok, prefer my weed instead
>head shop sells it
>owner gets a C&D order from NY government
>They claim mislabeling
>eventually just ask him to stop selling kratom
>newspaper declares Kratom as a designer drug based on NY's head prosecutor aka faggot

Is this happening for anyone else?
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Headphase !!TipeFsaf - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:17:19 EST ID:hpL4zaQL No.549328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This has been happening for quite a few years. Look back at the news archives and you'll find "The New Drug Your Kids Are Getting High On!!!" articles about kratom all the time. Fortunately none of these things tend to really stick anywhere aside from the couple states that have banned it.
Phyllis Closslelure - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:45:38 EST ID:nvrHPqZu No.549358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's partially true in that there is kratom being mixed with opioid research chemicals being sold online, but it is making no mention of it containing the RC. Lots of people have been talking about it recently on some other sites I frequent, saying they've been running into kratom pills and liquids that are getting them legit high similar to 40-50mg of hydro...and there are people with kratom tolerances, they know they've never felt this good from pure kratom before.

Most kratom is regular pure stuff, but I've been seeing the shit that is like 10 dollars per pill recently and that is likely the stuff people are talking about and being suspicious of containing research chems without labeling.

Not saying it warrants bans or media panic, but it is true there is a lot of new-wave suspiciously strong kratom hitting the market.
daedrie !pr5VMTw.cM - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:11:19 EST ID:i/gSTxDP No.549378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's happening in a few states. We are currently fighting bills proposing the ban of kratom and just stopped a bill in Georgia from being passed
Dr. M - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:43:21 EST ID:8GnuRXhR No.549380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Although it's not really related to this board, I was surprised to see that Georgia scheduled etizolam towards the end of last year. Instead of making it schedule I, they acrually gave it schedule IV benzo status. Our national and collective state governments are slow to act, but eventually they will catch up and act on kratom in some way.

Part of the reason why PST should be fine indefinitely is because they're approved by the FDA as a food, and anything that's defined as a food legally can't be a drug under the FDA classifications (went over this in class recently).

Kratom isn't even approved for human consumption at this point. If if was, its unlikely it would ever be considered as a Food, and if definitely meets the FDA requirement of a drug (cbf to pull it up at 5am but its something l weird like "substanfe that...changes the structure of the body.")

Kratom probably belongs as a Schedule III (extracts) or IV (plain leaf), (not that I would vote to ban it),available as a weak pain reliever below codeine, as a first line pain reliever for patients that are at-risk for drug or alcohol dependence but still need relief, off-label antidepressant in low doses, or as a alternative to bupe or methadone for taper/maintenance program.

The only problem is kratom faces the same issues as weed. Big pharma can't patent it or any of its main chemical compounds. Because of this, they'll perpetuate the same old guise of "there isn't sufficiently accurate dosing to meet modern medicine standards" so it would just get pushed to the side. Pharmacies would have a hard time supplying appropriate product and wouldn't be particularly interested in expanding in the kratom industry (how many kratheads would remain/become kratheads if kratom was regulated just a strict as Tylenol 3s?)

Then again, there's a decently large sized pro-kratom lobby that's a hodgepodge of online kratom-exclusive vendors and brick-and-mortar bong shops. Representatives generslly love small businesses that pay sales tax, purchase permits, and employ low income but stable non-tipped jobs.

We will have to wait and see I guess.
Sophie Bankinlune - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 15:08:57 EST ID:aofdufZ+ No.549396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I've been getting this stuff called "oxindole enhanced bali" online for the past 3 years or so. It's so powerful it only takes about 1 gram to get blasted. The high is better than any other drug I've ever tried. I've done all the classic opioids all the way up to oxymorphone and I would take this oxindole stuff over oxymorphone. I'm just curious if anyone else has tried this stuff and if so, what is really in it? I know it's not just kratom alkoloids. There is something added to it that's not kratom related. Thanks for your help!

Losing people you care about by Oliver Brookwater - Mon, 04 Jan 2016 02:56:32 EST ID:lZQEov2h No.546842 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /opi/. Recovering heroin addict here. Who have you lost to overdose? Did it affect your using?

Reason I'm asking is because I just lost my girlfriend to heroin. I have been clean except for pain pills since then. It happened on Christmas. We both split a quarter gram (we had been using only once a week for a while and the last bag was a half gram split between us that was pretty weak even for our lowered tolerances, we thought it was the same stuff but it was stronger) and we both passed out. When I came to, she wasn't breathing. Tried CPR. Then checked for a pulse. No pulse. I'm freaking out. We're in the middle of the hood with paraphernelia in the car. I ask a passing car for directions to the nearest hospital and rush there, but it was too late. Her brain was deprived of oxygen for too long. She was braindead, only kept alive by a breathing machine and life support.

The love of my life, ripped away from me. I should have died with her, but I didn't. Now I'm trying to stay clean. For her. I haven't used since that day.
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Edwin Blenkindale - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:32:18 EST ID:gEIjfOn1 No.549356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you don't understand why someone would do dope, or shift to it after using prescription drugs, then you don't understand opiates at all
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:58:07 EST ID:RTyJe7p7 No.549359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
diamorphine is an awesome drug, that's why people do it. Pretty damn simple.
Charlotte Dorrysut - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 07:43:59 EST ID:ZESJi3Wi No.549387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
boy you sure are fucking dumb.

but really, you make the decision to start using heroin voluntarily, thats the shit i dont understand.

hurr "its and awesome drug you just dont get it"

i did pills for fucking years, never had to shoot to get off maybe because i have an appreciation for life, loved ones pass on from real shit beyond their control and then you have fiends choosing to not care about anyone buy themselves.

i guess what i dont understand really is why you would choose to become a scumbag.
Angus Smallman - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 10:08:19 EST ID:eVS+Iq1s No.549388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're just a simple-minded fool who doesn't understand what it really feels like to despise being alive. You simply cannot relate to certain people, and yet you jump to conclusions about what they are like, even though you admit that you can't understand why they do what they do. You're a closed-minded bigot. It's possible to care about those around you and still feel the need to numb yourself emotionally because you can't handle life.
Molly Noblingcocke - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 12:29:16 EST ID:wsaul+Dx No.549391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its not the drug fault, you can use H responsibly and be a nice guy and be a total scumbag with pills, also you can die and ruin your life from them too
Its all about self control/being careful i know its REALLY hard to do it but its possible, imo

Withdrawal from Opiates AND Stimulants by Jack Dridgefuck - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:03:10 EST ID:ufiamVap No.549343 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Have you ever gone into withdrawal from both opiates AND stimulants? Like, for instance, going cold turkey after being on oxycodone and/or heroin and Adderall, speed, or coke regularly (moreorless every day). Through rehab or simply isolation style, a la Trainspotting, either forced or voluntary.

I've done pretty much all of those drugs before, and have had multiple longterm drug habits, but never both at once. I just remember how shitty coming down from those addictions felt, individually, but am interested in what it's like to come off of both uppers AND downers, essentially. Tell me your stories.
Edward Coffinghetch - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:52:08 EST ID:FCyzYCdr No.549347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Back in 2008 I was ordering tramadol off of the internet for free. Apparently, this online vendor in hong-kong was gung-ho about sending out orders that were to be paid by "money order".

Well, on a whim one boring night I put in an order for 60x 200mg ER tramadols. William Johnson was the name i put on the order.

One day I hear a knock on the door. It's the mail man, asking for a "William Johnson" to sign. Oh yeah, he's been staying with us. I'll sign for him. I slap on my best John Hancock of bull shit, and open the package. Sweet mother of god, I have NO tolerance to tramadol at this point, and I just had 60x200mg fall into my lap (That is like having 240x50mg IR's).

Oh I ate those like candy. And when my stash was getting low, I put in for another order. Surely, they wouldn't send me more pills even though I never paid for the first one. Lo and behold, these guys are like the tramadol santa.

I repeat this process 3 times. Each time, I became SEVERELY physically addicted - mind you besides the MU receptor action, tramadol has significant SNRI activity as well.

So, I was essentially addicted to opiates as well as anti-depressants, which have a pronounced physical withdrawal syndrome as well.

The first 2 times, everyone just thought I was severely sick. For 2 weeks straight, I couldn't sleep without nightmares, i had diarrhea out of both ends essentially, I was not comfortable in my own skin in anyway, goosebumps, chills, hot, then cold.

But then I finally got back to normal. I was on top of the world. It was better than any high, that moment. The moment that I knew the withdrawal was over. A song came on the radio, and it spoke to me so magically. the world was so vibrant, life was a thrill... A little too much so, the administrators of my high school believed.
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Nathaniel Crimblewill - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:04:51 EST ID:kjXdT+ok No.549349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what doses were you taking before you hit that 'god mode' mania, and for how long
Edward Coffinghetch - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 22:01:06 EST ID:FCyzYCdr No.549354 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I started with taking 2 pills a day, and that lasted about a week and a half, and then 2 and a half a day, and then 3 a day up to at one point I vaguely remember eating maybe 5 at a time before school. These binges on average would last a month and some change - since these were ER and the time release was never fully destroyed I was essentially doped up 24/7 for a month straight. I then quit that cold turkey. The withdrawal took about a day to set in but it was pretty obvious when it did, i looked sick as a dog and everyone was convinced I had the flu or something.
Dexter the Meth Orphan - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 05:33:07 EST ID:NU4SgTSw No.549383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Severe opioid withdrawals can cause mania even in people with no history of it. It's certainly happened to me.
No help for OP sorry, I don't think I've ever used stims hard enough to have withdrawals.
John Benninggold - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:03:11 EST ID:cfHKBDLt No.549384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess I'll tell my story. After about 9 months slamming H (preceded by 6 months smoking) and 18 months of meth for breakfast my dealer got locked up. Day 1 was ok. Day 2 I started feeling antsy, day 3-6 pure fucking hell. Exhausted but cant sleep. Too wiped to even check my pockets of my pants. Thank god day 3 was Friday and I somehow made it through work and made it home without rearending anyone, my legs were spazing so bad I was kicking myself off the bed. Not really awake, not really asleep. Sunday I got it together enough to purchase enough Vicodin that I looked sorta normal (5 Norco's) and made it through to Tuesday before it hurt so bad I cold copped. Then I sorta tapered with what I had bought.

Yeah, it fucking sucks

Tramadol hours after coke by John Dinnerdock - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 21:50:25 EST ID:+2Cnbt5E No.549353 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it safe to do some tram after a few lines of coke
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Edward Nezzlebidging - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 00:30:30 EST ID:ZNqlF0jH No.549368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So what about plugging tramadol? Ive done it a few times and at first it was fun but the last time I felt no effects and I read it needs to go through first pass metabolism. Anyone with experience plugging tramadol? Please help?
Dr. M - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 00:41:47 EST ID:8GnuRXhR No.549370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You have to make an executive decision.

Plugging can get you a ~10% boost in bioavailability, but your bowels have to be completely empty.

The flipside is oral will be ~10% less, but many people argue tramadol is one of the few opiates best consumed staggered. This is because more of the tramadol is converted into O-desomethyltramadol (sp?), which is much more euphoric.

I personally agree with the staggering approach. Take 50mg every 30mins with a maximum total staggering time of 2 hours. So 50 50 50 50 50, if you want to take more than 250mg just take 100mg at the end, for 350 either do 150 at the end, or 50 50 50 100 100, etc.

If course in theory you could plug stagger, but that would be 3-5+ insertions in one session, and if your bowels fill with shit or get blocked for any one of the shots, the 10% boost wasn't worth it. Personally its not worth it for me.

IMO I would take a low dose benzo if taking more than 200mg, some people have taken 800mg and been fine, others taken 150-200mg and had a grand mal while driving. Avoid dxm or alcohol.

I pretty much take 0.6mg etizolam every time I take tramadol.

Let me know if you need anything else.
Dr. M - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:19:21 EST ID:8GnuRXhR No.549379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, OP, in response to cocaine+tramadol: I would say the combination isn't a smart idea but isn't a life-threatening activity if only done once/rarely, about as dangerous as cocaine+alcohol combination (but probably no worse, booze+coke is 5x more toxic on the body than coke alone). Worst case scenario you have a seizure, but no real chance of Serotonin Syndrome.

>seriously get some seizure protection, literally any benzo/thienobenzos you can find, you only need like 1mg kpin for an entire day of protection, or 0.5mg Xanax a few times a day. If not then second tier backups would be z-class drugs (especially lunesta being #1, sonata being a distant #2, and ambien being the least effective), and if all else fails, kava kava or Valerian root are better than nothing. You can buy both at vitamin stores/otc at pharmacies or online. Alcohol has mixed effects on seizure threshold and generally doesn't help, should be avoided when using tramadol, and is especially harmful when taken with cocaine in your bloodstream.

I personally wouldn't mix tramadol with any real stimulants apart from maybe caffeine or nicotine, but then again I would never combine cocaine and alcohol, yet lots of people do it and love its combined effects.

Tramadol is stimulating as is.

"The mode of intake greatly affects seizure threshold. Inhaled (smoking of crack) or intravenously injected use is associated with de novo generalized seizures. Insufflated (snorted) use is associated with partial or idiopathic seizures. Massive overdoses like those associated with the rupture of cocaine-containing condoms being used for smuggling (body packers) usually do not include seizures." -Barbara S. Koppel MD (2004).

Nb double post
Edward Coffinghetch - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 04:51:42 EST ID:FCyzYCdr No.549381 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I agree with you on the low dose benzo thing. Makes the tram feel alot nicer, and puts the mind at ease that you won't start seizing.
Archie Fibblefoot - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 11:04:32 EST ID:MMJTxWeH No.549390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ol dirty bastard died from tram + coke afaik, he probably did a shitload of both or something

Could we train our brains to get high for us? by Morphiate !ewxdWBJtu2 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:47:53 EST ID:zaurUfK0 No.549300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I just read this article online about using Pavlovian conditioning to treat diseases. By giving patients a combination of a drug and some strong stimulus (like cod liver oil and rose perfume) you can condition the brain to respond in the same way when just the stimulus is given without the drug (or only a small amount of the drug). Researches found "60–80 per cent of the effect of the drug" by using this conditioning technique.

Imagine if we could do the same thing with opiates. If we could condition our brains to associate some stimulus with opioids, maybe we could be able to decrease our doses while getting the same effects. Or use this effect to stave off withdrawal in moments when we can't get access to any opiates.

I'm currently getting off opis at the moment otherwise I'd give this a go. I have no idea if this would work or not since their research was based on the immune system. Technically their research was such a big deal because the scientific community once believed only the brain was susceptible to this conditioning, and not the immune system. Once they discovered the two were connected it paved the way for studies like this to be more widely accepted. Since the response elucidated by a mu-opioid agonist is entirely within the brain itself, I see no reasons conditioning shouldn't work.

Here's the link to the article in question:

The original scientific paper by Robert Ader I can't find any references to unfortunately. It would be an interesting read im sure.

pic unrelated, just one of the poppies I grew a long time ago.
Simon Smallfuck - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:48:51 EST ID:wZb3Wpxj No.549303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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probably not
bogglechamp2012 !!fO7Om/yU - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 12:21:44 EST ID:u3hiCUIW No.549305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i intentionally listened to the same song every time i shot up (and never while i wasn't shooting up), and later i listened to it without shooting up, and i gotta say, i didn't feel high at all and i felt real fucking empty and angry i didn't get muh rush soooooo yeah. you can't just use placebo effect to agonize your opi receptors m8
Morphiate !ewxdWBJtu2 - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:35:35 EST ID:zaurUfK0 No.549376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually I think I might be on to something. The brain can definitely be a force we can control to get higher from less. I remember reading an article a while ago about how heroin addicts had a higher risk of overdose when using in an unfamiliar location, even with the same dose of heroin. I couldn't find the exact article again but I found an even better one that seems to link the phenomenon to Pavlovian conditioning, but in the opposite was I expected it to.

Here's the article:

I truly believe we can trick our brains if we just know how. Personally I can attest to the above being true. Last summer vacation I had to travel across country while still supporting an 8lb poppy seeds a day habit. 8lbs was my normal dose to get me a bit over level, not really nodding hard but happy. I found that I was able to get a good nod off just over half that dose. I was able to take 4.5lbs for the duration of the trip and was even nodding off them. My usage went back to normal upon returning home.
Morphiate !ewxdWBJtu2 - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 03:39:37 EST ID:zaurUfK0 No.549377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Forgot to add, I think the most significant takeaway from that case-study is this remark:

"The anticipation and preparation for taking the drug triggers responses contrary to the drug effect in persons already showing drug tolerance. The anticipation preceding the administration of opiate, acting as a conditioned stimulus, reduced the action of the drug and so contributed to the development of a mechanism corresponding to tolerance ".

This phenomenon is real, we just have to figure out how to take advantage of it. nb4dp

Drug Of Choice by Phoebe Hiffingbodging - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 23:44:19 EST ID:FCyzYCdr No.549285 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, it's a given that anyone on this board enjoys or has tried opiates - but out of all of them, which one would be your favorite? I have first hand experience with:
Codeine (I must be in the portion of the population that lacks an enzyme to metabolize it because I have never felt much from it) (Oral)
Hydrocodone (Oral)
Hydromorphone (Oral, IV, Intranasal)
Oxycodone (Oral, Intranasal)
Oxymorphone (Intranasal, Oral)
Diacetylmorphine (Intranasal, IV)
Morphine (IV, IM, Oral)
Buprenorphine (Sublingual, IV)
Tramadol (Oral)
Tapentadol (Oral)
Demerol (Oral)

Anyway, the purpose of this post is not to shamelessly just list all of the opiates I have imbibed in, it's to ask all of you, What is YOUR opiate of choice and why? Personally, I am absolutely in love with buprenorphine. The pain relief is just right for me (I suffer chronic upper back pain from a work injury 5 years ago), and on average it will keep me feeling quite nice for about 12-16 hours from a mere 1 mg shot!
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Phoebe Fugglesone - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 16:53:37 EST ID:w9jcQi8s No.549321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Codiene and Vicodin(Hydrocodone)...choose not to exceed 15-20mg daily (24hr period) of Vicodin. Not particularly fond of the nausea from Percocet/Oxycodone in doses exceeding 10mg. Vicodin seems to provide the most clear headed and organized pf the three from personal experience. Cannot stand Ultram(Tramadol) for reason of serotonin dumps andbpossible psychosis that follows.
Edward Coffinghetch - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 20:09:10 EST ID:FCyzYCdr No.549344 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks for the kind words man, it truly means alot to me to know someone out there cares. I originally started getting high because of stress in my teens (12 years old switched to private school, had no friends), fell out of the opiates for a few years from 17-20 when I started smoking weed exclusively (I tried many opiates before ever taking a single toke. Weird, right?)

Then I got injured at 20, at which point I threw away all of my prior convictions regarding IV drug use and opiate addiction (Which I had kicked twice prior, at 16 - full on tramadol withdrawal. Never want to be there again). But it wasn't until the past 3 years that I started the needle. I am turning 25 in a month, and honestly if it weren't for the opiates and benzos I would just lay in bed all day. I hate the way I feel when my pain isn't being blocked. When I feel my back suddenly relax a wave of euphoria washes over me (This happens even without opiates if I have a lucky day of no spasms and mysteriously the rock hard lump that is my right upper back is relaxed.). Sorry, for the wall of text, just this pain has been central to my life.

What I'm partially saying is, of course we all started these things because we like to get high (whatever that high is, for me, it's the euphoria from feeling like ME again for a few hours. The opiates are just a way to access the dopamine button for me.

I actually don't do any open air transacting these days, I just have a guy I go through, the heroin in south carolina varies pretty considerably, it's mostly 80% or more pure by my estimate. Some of it is white powder (usually not as good, i assume it's cut more) sometimes it's tan (usually pretty good), and there is a small black tar market - but I don't mess with the tar, it's actually how I was introduced to heroin and IV, but it just feels so dirty to me. The mexicans usually have the tiny balloons, sometimes they are little stamp bags, too.

But I have a couple of benzo connects, too. I used to dabble in cocaine and crack with the blacks (Yes, that is literally the best place to get your nose candy, no racism)

Out in the boondocks there is a pretty rampant open air market…
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:12:26 EST ID:RTyJe7p7 No.549361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tramadol (oral)
>codeine (oral)
>diphenoxylate (oral)
>oxycodone (oral, IV, intranasal)
>morphine (oral, IV)
>diamorphine (intranasal, IV)
>methadone (oral, IV)
>buprenorphine (sublingual, IV)
>fentanyl (buccal)

opioid of choice is heroin. The reason is because I use local/homemade #3 (pic related) which is uncut and relatively pure (probably upwards of 80%); it's incredibly euphoric, has a great IV rush, and has decent legs. Nothing else I've used can compare to the value of it. I use it just about every day. However I also use methadone daily without fail, and it's also a pretty great opioid when you consider the length of the high - especially when I get takehomes and IV it - so that comes in as a close second.
Aciddrop - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 01:30:06 EST ID:7c0YpD7G No.549374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've tried:
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Barnaby Benkinhene - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 01:54:18 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.549375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ya bupe is ok if you justify it to yourself

hydro by Fuck Greenway - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 23:09:20 EST ID:HrQAPgxY No.549360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone else here prefer Hydrocodone over oxy? The high just feels a lot cleaner and peaceful to me.

Methadonic by Cyril Lightwater - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 18:53:21 EST ID:O/T/RyBa No.549267 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just tried methadone(crystal form) IV for the first time (before only snsufllated oxy and drank tramadol several times)
Totally not what I expected, but feels quite awesome. I heard that it's not that euphoric first 3-4 times, is it so?)
Also I almost didn't feel nauseaus. Just woke up after 3 hours of sleep and feel rather well.
The guy who introduced it to me said that the effect will let up to 72h, and warned that I should redose not earlier than 48h, (feels sad cuz the rush was intense)
Also what is the best way to get rid of nausea excluding meds that make you nod?
Also pls more tips and tricks and sorry for my broken English
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Eugene Cupperway - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:56:10 EST ID:qZHAnkhV No.549324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. And there's shits load of it here. Heroin is I a super-rarity.
We also used to have a harm reduction one in pill form but now it's gone

Also, how far is the point of no turning back with methadone? I made another injection earlier in the day and it was just fuckig extraordinary. This is fucking magic, I don't even consider taking stims ever again (been my drug of choice along with benzos and lyrica for a couple of years)
I'm pretty sure I'll be taking a tiny dose every day considering that in a couple of hours I'm absolutely capable of working/driving/sex/etc (I've got approximately 20 of those left). Am I going to have severe abstinence after three weeks?
So far it seems that it doesn't ruin my lifestyle as stims did. How fast methadone can ruin me?
Any advice?
Staying drug free or just smoking weed is not an option for me

Additional info: I can always afford top quality stuff (got the money and connections)
Molly Bandlewill - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:07:37 EST ID:3WUOgy/B No.549337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where do you live? I find it interesting that they make illicit methadone
Eliza Fanworth - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:10:39 EST ID:kq+j4cJW No.549339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually I think I made a mistake and we still have methadone program.
I'm from Ukraine
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:11:57 EST ID:RTyJe7p7 No.549340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You keep up daily use for three weeks and you're probably going to have some kind of withdrawal. It won't be bad at all but the dependence will begin to show. You don't want a methadone dependence, trust me, the withdrawals last for up to a month and are excruciating - worse than morphine/heroin.

Tread carefully. Just saying.
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:14:17 EST ID:RTyJe7p7 No.549341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah you guys do have methadone, because I read an article about people who were on methadone in what is now Russia-annexed Crimea and how they were all forced off their doses because Russia doesn't offer opioid replacement therapy. Anyway your crystal methadone is likely cooked down from the liquid that methadone patients get

Hydrocodone by Eliza Foggleman - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 17:17:13 EST ID:R1bEvQaq No.549322 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have access to some hydrocodone but ive literally never done any type of drugs before, ive gotten drunk at most. Asked my friend who's taken some due to pain and he says its basically like a strong tylenol, so I came here as a complete noob asking for information.
Headphase !!TipeFsaf - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:19:30 EST ID:hpL4zaQL No.549329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
take 30mg or so and get high. If you want to make a habit out of it watch the APAP.
Eliza Foggleman - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 18:58:13 EST ID:R1bEvQaq No.549335 Ignore Report Quick Reply

thanks fam
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 10 Feb 2016 19:09:49 EST ID:RTyJe7p7 No.549338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do 20mg. 30mg seems like too much to me. A strong paracetamol/tylenol? Nothing at all like that. You'll see.
Dr. M - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 00:19:45 EST ID:8GnuRXhR No.549366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I second 15-20mg your first time. Consider 12.5mg if you're under 150lbs, 15mg if you're under 175, 17.5mg if you're under 200lbs.

15mg for women, teenagers, or guys under 170-180lbs. Honestly if you have zero drug experience 15mg would be best regardless. 20mg was never a problem for me, but some people puke from 20mg. Worst case scenario you're underwhelmed and you try again next week.

IMO 30mg is shit advice from someone who either doesn't remember what no tolerance feels like, or they weigh 225+ lbs. You can't blame them though; permanent tolerance seems to be a thing, and some people can go months without opiates and still require 40-70mg hydrocodone for a solid high.

Take it all at once and do not redose it the same day.

Eating 25-50mg benadryl/diphenhydramine (25mg if you've never had it before) 30-45 minutes before will greatly help stop itching, and will slightly help with nausea and vomiting.

If you want the logical answer, you really should wait 5-10 says between doses to keep your tolerance extremely low. Don't dose it like weed, like 10mg now 10mg later in the day, it sucks so much and is a total waste.

Don't worry whatsoever about APAP if it's under 2g, and even under 3g is a ridiculously minimal risk of liver problems if you're only dosing every 5-14 days. Personally I would CWE more than 3g, but daily max is 4g (technically not all at once), but you should never reach those amounts with the newer 5/325 pills. 20mg hydrocodone is only 1500mg, not a problem at all. Even 30mg is just 2250mg of APAP. Calls for CWE are grossly overrated for users that take 30mg or less to get high (60mg or less if it's 10/325s). Even though APAP+Alcohol risk is only really a problem with chronic use, try not to drink the day before, the day of, or the day after if you can. CWE is just hydro loss.


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