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Hydromorphone vs Hydrocodone by Ernest Gollyson - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:32:52 EST ID:DTDQ9YzH No.533336 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey all, /opi/ newbie here. I tried Hydrocodone for the first time last night (15 mg) and was wondering if hydromorphone is any better? The 15 mg was okay. I just swallowed the two pills. Should I have Crunched them up or something? What's the best way to take it? How do I deal with not fucking up my liver via the Acetaminophen.

Thanks Y'all.
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Martin Blackfield - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:08:00 EST ID:uWbzP2ij No.533378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533377

just make sure your not doing too much, because you can od easier.
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Caroline Sesslenure - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:14:30 EST ID:DTDQ9YzH No.533381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533377

Okay. I might try snorting 2 mg.
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:45:34 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533381
DO NOT FUCKING SWALLOW HYDROMORPHONE EVER. EVER. Up the nose or the pooper it must go. The opiate gods of science and bioavailability will it.

Seriously not trolling you, google it at least before you waste them by eating them.

nb
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Caroline Sesslenure - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 01:19:39 EST ID:DTDQ9YzH No.533397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533392

I snorted 4 mg and put 2 mg up my ass lol. Thanks for your help guys.
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:44:18 EST ID:NffHYFDE No.533434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533392
ummmmmmmm you missed the holy grail of Hydromorphone routes, INTRAVENOUS MUFUCKA. until you have experienced >datrush then you will understand.


Codeine Dreams by Simon Sabbledan - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:10:16 EST ID:9jH1QdKF No.533324 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long is the best time to wait after eating before dosing codeine? Cheers, just don't wanna waste my delicious opi.
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:45:19 EST ID:3YO/OtG/ No.533354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533327
Arguable. I would eat first and then dose codeine.
That's how I've always done it. Low stomach pH is always a bad thing for opioid conversion. Take a tums or two or eat a decent amount.
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:49:57 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533354
I won't disagree with the alkaline approach, but a full stomach always seems to equate to a shorter C max, a less crazy comeup, and a drawn-out dull high, especially with codeine. I will say an empty stomach is more prone to nausea.

nb
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Martha Ponderstock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:04:14 EST ID:Wr/Pl/wY No.533417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533354
Let me ask this here instead of making a new thread.

Does the PH thing only matter for oral doses?

Does anybody know why it feels like you "blow your high" when you eat even after the pills/whatever is metabolized, or even after sniffing it?
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Nathaniel Gorringville - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:16:06 EST ID:1x5bdXEx No.533421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533417
Considering it's bypassing the stomach, I would assume intranasal, IV, IM, smoking, transdermal, plugging, or any other weird shit I may have missed would be unaffected. My only real source here is anecdotal evidence from my own past experiences but it seems solid enough.
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:40:58 EST ID:NffHYFDE No.533433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533324
i generally wait 2-4 hours. got a hella fast metabolism tho so i probably dont needa wait that long.


milk by Fanny Bennerson - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 08:30:53 EST ID:9cg7dlIU No.533415 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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why does milk taste so good on heroin
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Doris Turveyshit - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:02:07 EST ID:mApH6p6B No.533416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533415
CASOMORPHINS EVERYWHERE
Chocolate milk is legit too
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Faggy Buckleturk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:14:04 EST ID:h96K5A9D No.533420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
H gives me the craziest cravings for sugary shit. Maybe milk has a certain appeal for a similar reason
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 10:11:22 EST ID:bp7wo+ul No.533423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533415
Not sure, but it does. I love drinking full cream milk. I'll get a little carton of it and just drink it like that, ideally with a few cookies.

Though chocolate milk is my number one. There's a few brands here including one that's meant to be gour-fucking-met but I prefer making my own. The expensive one just takes like choclate milk made with dark chocolate. I like to get some nesquick or just hot chocolate mix and add it to milk and drink that.

But yeah sugary stuff in general. New Zealand seems to have JUST got sour patch kids. Few years ago I assumed it's what americans called sour gummy bears but then I realised it's a brand name and shit. They got the small bags, big bags and gum. I like all of them. Love a bit of ice tea. Lipton ice tea and some of the other asian ones are good. Again, like sour patch kids, I'd heard of Arizona ice tea for yonks then one day just saw a bottle in a dairy that is sorta special in that it brings in foreign shit all the time. They had cherry coke back when it was rare. Used to be you couldn't find cherry coke here AT ALL. Now it's everywhere. Anyway arizona ice teas so common now they sell it at most gas stations. Those cunts have the WORST selection of drinks usually.

I remember my first time trying arizona ice tea. Was in a cafe with my dad and I got it next door. Got him the blueberry white tea one and I got the peach. Peach ice tea, it's a classic. Can't go wrong. I thought it was a bit too sweet at first but grew to love it. Tried all of them but blueberry is my favourite then peach.

Back onto milk though, how about fucking cereal? I'm told it's methadone, but I'm using H every day too and I've ALWAYS loved sweet stuff. I got a box of fruit loops the other day and was eating three huge bowls a day til they went. Too broke to buy some more right now. But fuck I could do with this. In the mean time I'm making do with cups of tea. Fucking lovely a cup of tea in the morning. Especially if it's cold. That must be the secret to Englands long reign. Delicious tea.

Pic unrelated: It's a guys homemade single shot .455 webley.
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Hamilton Sammlelot - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:20:56 EST ID:9jH1QdKF No.533431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533423

do you get KA over there? Sweet sugary goodness, best for opi. As I crave sour sweets too, but it's a drink.
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:39:08 EST ID:NffHYFDE No.533432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533415
not sure. but old mate smackhead of mine LOVES his fuckin iced coffee with his H. especially mixing in Kahlua.

nowadays he got that implant and has moved onto becoming a sketchy ice fiend, yet last week when i seen him on his 5th day awake renovating he was still smashing back to the iced coffee and Kahlua to "keep hydrated" hahaha. love that guy.


BWN Babbies first abcess by Thants - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 16:16:46 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.532051 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well as you may know I'm in the hospital for an abscess and infection of streptococcus (which is flesh eating disease fyi). So please kids, use clean needles and don't share. I have a feeling that the past previous week of mad drugs and crazy group sex had more than enough to do with it. Anyway back off to the hospital for another undetermined amount of days, take care /opi/ and remember deep down I truly love you all....

YA BOY THANTS
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Matilda Gebbleshaw - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 10:56:30 EST ID:ztzPGoam No.533425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533424
What? The intervention was for homosex and not the drugs?
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Jenny Croddleridge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 11:30:44 EST ID:F7jst2cI No.533426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533424
ogp is gay? or are you taking the piss?
that makes him seem cooler for some reason

I should probably stop idolizing drug addicts
god damn, why are opiates so romantic
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Nigger Chessledock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 12:45:28 EST ID:kjXdT+ok No.533428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i had a dream about that neon blue clonazepam. i want.

my PST taper was rapidly accelerated by buying bunk seeds and going broke. i thought i was "staying well" but when i finally dosed good shit yesterday it was like wiping away the clouds and seeing the motherfucking sun shine. at least my tolerance is low now, it would actually be a great time for me to cold turkey off seeds but why would i do that when i have this fresh bag of SN :)

comments are saying this i the best batch in months.. nom nomnom
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Jenny Croddleridge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 12:54:01 EST ID:F7jst2cI No.533429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533428
>i thought i was "staying well" but when i finally dosed good shit yesterday it was like wiping away the clouds and seeing the motherfucking sun shine

Thats a golden quote
same thing happened to me today, was gonna try and stay sober and though I was feeling alright, eventually I caved and made some PST and how bad sobriety is became clear.

Its s very bitter sweet feeling
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Ebenezer Dacklechetch - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 12:58:27 EST ID:PwtUI3A/ No.533430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Deez seeds>>533429


Confession by Eliza Subberchudge - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:35:16 EST ID:d1FmxCLC No.533314 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there any good reason at all to confess my heroin addiction to my family? The only plus I can think of is relieving some guilt. Downsides include no more money sent if I need help, stressing my patents into an early grave, getting scolded, disapointed parents, god only knows what other bullshit may come of it. So I ask all of you what good cones from comfesdion, because I very much want to unburdening this load if my double life but it seems q selfish reason because I will probably end up hurting a lot of people. Thanks gents
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Angus Waggleridge - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:55:34 EST ID:7WWTl5Y6 No.533382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533314

OP dude if you need to talk to someone about this shit, you should see a therapist. it's really a good idea. it's important to be able to contextualize your problems and avoid bad patterns. there's a stubborn and pervasive idiocy in western culture that stigmatizes mental illnesses and seeking help especially among men. even if you don't think you need it, if you feel the need to bring this shit up to your family, you should talk to a therapist for real. much like a bandage for a wound they have the tools to help you begin to deal with your problems, so long as you're able to admit you have problems. best of luck and god bless
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Beatrice Claystone - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 03:42:35 EST ID:hW7Frp1Q No.533399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533333
Great read there, Dr Mario. A fascinating and enlightening insight.
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Matilda Gebbleshaw - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 06:41:29 EST ID:ztzPGoam No.533405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533346
Unless your parents have been users yourself, they'll never find out unless you get high infront of them or steal their belongings. I've nodded out infront of my family before, and I just tell them that it's because of my insomnia; I haven't slept for 2 days, etc.

I live on my own, attend uni, dress well, keep my place clean, take care of personal hygiene etc -- and absolutely no one suspects anything. As long as you can keep this up, no one will ever think you're using, because in the minds of normal people, doing opiates and maintaining a normal life is an oxymoron of cosmic proportions. They think heroin and their thoughts immediately go to filthy-homeless-prostitute-digging-around-in-an-abscess-with-a-rusty-needle.
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Faggy Buckleturk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:12:47 EST ID:h96K5A9D No.533419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533346
if you're not failing as a consequence of your use, you're productive and still manage to maintain your humanity, don't feel guilty. That is, if you really are doing well.

I am pretty successful despite my use and I maintain a very normal lifestyle win the exception that I have to dose every so often or I'll get sick. I'm working to quit at some point and leaving it behind like it never happened.

The only way to rid yourself of the guilt is to quit and return to normality. But you have to do that of your own volition
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Nathaniel Gorringville - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 09:24:43 EST ID:1x5bdXEx No.533422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533333
I'd have to agree with the appearance bit. I've slipped up a few times, nothing that immediately said I'm using drugs, but enough to hint heavily at it when they've all been combined. Even still, my very anti-drug parents don't press my about it, as long as I have a job, I continue my ambitious plans for the future I've had, and I don't act like a fucking nutjob they're cool with what I do. They'll bring up drugs from time to time, the subtle "just don't go too far" kind of hints like talking about risks of certain drugs, but they never accuse me of anything outright.


how to get a killer nod by Fucking Bunnerlock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 06:49:19 EST ID:tOXYJH6y No.533406 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ive maintained on .5lb pst, bike/walk 20mi/day, taken days off but when i iv bth in high doses i just feel good for 30 minutes, several hours of melancholy and sick as heck. its pretty potent gear but not the cleanest, just cant get a killed
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Fucking Bunnerlock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 06:50:06 EST ID:tOXYJH6y No.533407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533406
killer nod
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Matilda Gebbleshaw - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 08:20:29 EST ID:ztzPGoam No.533414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533406
Probably dirty dope. Get your tolerance down and get high on pharms. Or do more pst.
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Dr. Mario - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 12:40:52 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533414
This x10. religiously dosing30-45mg dxm 30-45mins before your pst will help too.

nb


Virgin by William Hezzlenut - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:10:48 EST ID:b1Z5xcmD No.533384 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've got 1 year old/expired oxycodone acetaminophen 5-325. I've never taken drugs before besides diazepam for anxiety once which was wonderful. Should I take them? What's the high like is it addictive etc.
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William Hezzlenut - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:13:27 EST ID:b1Z5xcmD No.533385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For some reason I couldn't space out my sentences so excuse the retarded looking post, for those who like spacing like I do;

I've got 1 year old/expired oxycodone acetaminophen 5-325.

I've never taken drugs before besides diazepam for anxiety once which was wonderful.

Should I take them? What's the high like is it addictive etc.
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Jenny Croddleridge - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:21:19 EST ID:F7jst2cI No.533386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
expiry date doesn't matter
they are addictive
10mg is a good dose but be wary of a histamine reacting, get some anti histamines just in case - the first time I tried oxy it was terrible due to histamine

take them if you want but just remember every addict started with their first dose
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Priscilla Gebberhedge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 00:55:06 EST ID:E2ay6d1i No.533396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To my knowledge (thought I am no pharmacist) expiration date isn't important, if any ingredients used in the production of the pill, like binders, waxes, coloring agents, etc. MIGHT start to lose any effectiveness, it is what the manufacturer marks as the expiration date. This doesn't reduce the effectiveness, or anything usually about the the drugs you want in the pill. The chemicals you want won't really change over time; especially not 1 year past

High is difficult to describe, the best thing I can relate it to is ever go to the gym or for a run or play a sport all day and then you are exhausted, then you jump into bed or take a warm shower and it's like the most soothing relaxing warmth? It's vaguely like that, to me at least. Sort of like - body tingles, itchiness, warmth, apathy, and a pleasant slightly drowsy sedation. Both mental and physical relaxation.

I don't know why but something else that popped into my head is a big warm hug from grandma when you were a kid.

Anywho, yes it is addictive. Not to say doing it once will make you a junkie stealing car radios, but it's certainly got an addiction potential. My personal recommendation is to try it once, if you like it, save it for special occasions, when you feel like you really need to relax and mellow out, try and make it a once in a blue moon treat - if possible to avoid craving it constantly. But, you know yourself better than anyone else so you judge your own level of self control.

Try doses for starting in the 10-15mg area, also, be careful with acetaminophen. Don't take doses exceeding 2000mg in 24hrs, you probably already know this, but save your liver. Don't combine with alcohol, etc.

But enjoy OP, have a show or a film to watch or a friend who is good company around, you will probably just want to chill and relax and not do much of anything else.
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Jenny Croddleridge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:32:46 EST ID:F7jst2cI No.533409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533384


Getting better opiates before or after surgery. by Cyril Sammerstine - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 02:17:35 EST ID:BQUnU2js No.533246 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I broke my elbow yesterday in a bike accident and all I got from the ER was Tylenol 3s. Which aren't killing my pain let alone making me high.

How do I go about telling them they're weak and need something stronger without sounding like a drug seeker and getting nothing.
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:23:03 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533246
The trick is saying it's an 8 or a 9 out of 10. Never say it's a 10/10. Maybe relate it to another experience (e.g. "This is almost as bad as childbirth"). Google common physical signs of chronic pain. I'm pretty sure there's facial signals that doctors can use to help determine if someone is not feeling well.

You're pretty much fucked if your doc gave you t3's. IME it's harder to script up to hydrocodone from t3's than it is bumping up to oxxycodone from hydrocodone.
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Molly Tillingbury - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:26:20 EST ID:UIeatYrE No.533389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533364

This is gonna blow your tits out of the water, but did you know that you can flip images upside down in any basic editing program?
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Jenny Gollyman - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 04:31:25 EST ID:KvyOApq7 No.533402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533341
for real, ive had a dream that looked exactly like that road.
i went there to pick some mushrooms for people, went to fields and told them how to get them and took some myself.. after that i rode in a ute or got chased by one or something like that.
the road, the fences and paddocks, the road at the end of the side and the hills in the background looked exactly the same..

>>533293
did you get a nerve block? because they probably did, and the pain would've been non existant because of that (your whole arm or area it was would've been completely dead and unable to move, no pain at all).
after the nerve block wears off it usually hurts.. if op didn't get a nerve block then i'd say the pain might've been pretty bad.
even with nerve block for me, i needed oxycodone to get to sleep.
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Fucking Bunnerlock - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 05:53:35 EST ID:tOXYJH6y No.533403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533389
nigga did you turn a pic upside down
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posty - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 06:00:58 EST ID:LWaMnpnm No.533404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've said that i had blood tests that showed high liver enzymes so i'm sensitive to acetaminophen. they prescribed me 30 oxy 5mg's for a month.

how do you know you're getting a morphine drip? it seems like if you checked into the ER legitimately the nurse would just hook you up to an IV and not say shit about it because it's just procedure to them. is it common for a nurse to disclose everything they do?

>>533292
seems like a good tip

>>533341
wow that looks incredible


question about mixing by Sophie Chegglekeck - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 20:02:44 EST ID:yYtuJHom No.533369 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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if i drank a glass of 13%abv wine, took 3/4 of a xanax bar, would it be safe to sniff about 3 caps of dope?
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Martha Ponderstock - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:10:31 EST ID:Wr/Pl/wY No.533379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533374
not necessarily. just take less and wait. you can always take more. you're opi tolerance is lower now
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Sophie Chegglekeck - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:13:46 EST ID:yYtuJHom No.533380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533379
yea just taking it bump by bump. think i might stop here after a little over a cap. unless it wears off later before i decide to hit the hay
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 23:35:39 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533374
> last 4 days
> last two weeks

Don't fucking mix the big 3 with no tolerance. It's a special type of witchcraft that takes times and skill to figure out.

I've established that I can take roughly 2mg etizolam with 8oz of pst or 1mg etiz with 1lb of pst. It took months of figuring out doses, and I still don't trust etiz+alcohol+pst.

I don't mean to be rude, but DO NOT combine the big 3. Maybe choose two, with one being a medium dose and one being a small therapeutic dose.
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Sophie Chegglekeck - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 00:18:28 EST ID:yYtuJHom No.533394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
instructions unclear. I died.
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abeksR !wjzl7eIsPk - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:56:24 EST ID:NffHYFDE No.533412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533394
OP is kill.

NB. dead thread like our OP.


240mg oxy does nothing much :( by George Chollyfuck - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 10:08:13 EST ID:CvPD/pdE No.533310 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im in an odd situation. Ive used consistently enough to ramp up my tolerance, but inconsistently enough to be free of withdrawals (still mental side sucks "I just wanna do a load of oxy fuck this im going home").

How long might it take for my tolerance to reduce back to 0.1? (0.1 since it will never be opi virgin again).

Anyone in the same boat? I plug btw lol get more of an effect regardless of how oral is better on paper
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:34:52 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Won't ramble too much (as I'd be repeating myself from other threads), but here's a few quick tips,

  1. 30-45mg DXM 30-45mins BEFORE your opi dose. tl;dr it will slow the raising of opiate tolerance

2. IME multi-dosing in the same day murders your tolerance.

3. Binges r-a-p-e your tolerance. If you're going to use that often, I'd suggest dosing like every other/every third day (as opposed to 3 days on 5 days off). Either way you're sort of fucked with that high rate of use.

4. Try polydrug use to "stave" off mental addiction. For example, maybe you do heroin every Friday, but you also smoke weed every Saturday and drink every Sunday. I use kratom, kava, pst, weed, and etizolam spread out over the week (only one substance a day, two-three days sober) so I don't get physically addicted to any of them.

5. Do things to keep yourself busy. A job where you can't nod off in the corner all day might help you keep straight. An organized sport/family events that require you sober and on time on a weekly basis is helpful as well.

6. Get a girlfriend/wife that's open to responsible drug use, but isn't a full-blown worthless junkie that doesn't have self-control. Junkie gfs can make it harder to use responsibly and harder to quit.

IME every 7-14 days is by far the best bang for your buck. Three times a month (every 10 days) is great for less mental "withdrawls", but I understand that for most opi users three days a month just isn't going to cut it
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:38:41 EST ID:5/2WLAVE No.533328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533326
As you can see, all of those are so important that they're all #1 on the list.
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George Chollyfuck - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 19:39:55 EST ID:CvPD/pdE No.533366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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yeah it's all at once but not all day, rarely more than twice a day too. days off at random though

pic dosent apply?
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George Chollyfuck - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 19:43:58 EST ID:CvPD/pdE No.533367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533366
once a day*
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Jenny Gollyman - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:21:42 EST ID:KvyOApq7 No.533383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
only way is to taper or to quit for a while really

imo all people that abuse pain meds should atleast taper once in a while. go to atleast 1/4 of your usual dose, enough that you'll atleast be somewhat alright... but you won't get too high

after you stay there for a while, you end up getting high at that dose again.


Need advice by Anonymous - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 15:55:48 EST ID:nLlPxq21 No.532939 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay so I tried heroin for the first time last week. I snorted two bags. It was a fun time of course and seemed like a completely harmless expierience. I've fucked around with opiates before and was able to keep it under control, doing a few Percs every now and then (i don't have an addictive personality, not implying I can't get addicted though). I want to do it again though, which I guess is normal. My question is if I'll be in any real danger if I do it once or twice before I leave for college where I won't have access/time to do it, or am I just fucking myself?
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Tue, 28 Jul 2015 01:43:37 EST ID:ggGPnxvw No.532970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you have a dealer? Or was this through a middleman/friend who got you the drugs? If the latter - which I think it probably is - you have nothing to worry about.
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Shitting Fongerpeck - Tue, 28 Jul 2015 16:04:33 EST ID:3h+j7TTj No.533019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Phillp Seymour Hoffman couldn't find his life interesting enough to live sober after H (and admittedly other stuff, too, but I doubt it's your only drug), what chance do you have? I've had friends die to the stuff and others say how H takes more than it gives but knowing that rationally doesn't help them- it messes up your subconscious, your receptors, your homeostasis in a way that is not worth it so quit while it is easier - before you've started.
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Anonymous - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:44:58 EST ID:pHoq7s+3 No.533353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>532970

yeah it's a middleman, well like 2 middlemen actually. One of my friends just tried it so I did it with him.


>>532965

Ahh I guess you're right, well I don't know, is there really like a scene for heroin in college? I'm going to West Chester U, I don't know the area well but I'd never think that'd be something I'd be around at a university
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Jarvis Faffingnane - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:33:48 EST ID:pWmmJrL2 No.533361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're lying to yourself if you don't think you'll have access to opiates in a college setting.
One of the things that kept me from trying heroin only a few times after I was already addicted to Oxy was the fact that the only dealer I knew lived at least an hour away and getting oxy was easier at the time. Just recently one of my weed dealers who lives in my apartment asked me if I knew anyone who wanted to buy some H and I've got 3 bags from him since and am struggling to resist buying more even though I quit oxy over 6 months ago.

It just depends on the kind of person you are. I have friends who can take 2 vicodin and be good for the rest of the day and not take it for weeks or months after that. Then there's people like me that try it once and even after I've quit for months I still crave the harder opiates. So it's really up to you.

Like do you think if you were given easy access to H during college could you resist or would it pull you in?
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Anonymous - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:53:22 EST ID:pHoq7s+3 No.533365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533361

I don't mean to seem naive or lie to myself I just have truly no idea what to expect. That's a good question though, as much as I want to say "of course I'd be able to resist" , there's really no telling. I've had the mindset for awhile, before I ever tried H, that I'd be very conservative with my drug use. I've done this before, going years without poppin a perc/vic/ whatever or drinking because I've had to much going on without craving it at all. Now of course H is different from those, but the fact that I've been able to buckle down and leave it alone has got to mean something right?

All in all I think it just comes down to how strong my will is and that's the price I've got to pay for trying heroin


The stupidity of Journalism will never die by Opiumus Prime - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:03:29 EST ID:oOITo26H No.533225 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Stumbled upon this while I was trying to find out how potent Bobs Red Mill Poppy Seeds are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qd6vbU3Kbxc

>"poppy seed tea can be a hallucinogen"
>mfw
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Phyllis Pedgeworth - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:13:21 EST ID:3h+j7TTj No.533348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533347
oh I forgot the best part: since it goes both ways at the same receptor, tolerance either never builds or does at a snails pace and 5mg > 80mg oxy
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ButtBlastIst !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:35:56 EST ID:3YO/OtG/ No.533349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533342
kappa opioid receptors . same ones that pot agonises to some degree.
i'd love to get my hands on some pure kappa agonists
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Lillian Cirringdock - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:46:48 EST ID:wnxds5MN No.533355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533349
Salvinorin A.
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 17:58:28 EST ID:3YO/OtG/ No.533356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>533355
Naaaah. It was one of those U-xxxx research opioids. There is one that is purely kappa agonising as opposed to the pure mu.
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:00:01 EST ID:LwsXoujV No.533357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>533349

From my recollection, the hallucinations associated with high kappa affinity opioids like pethidine are characteristically unpleasant and distressing.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2612708/

All of the available data seems to suggest that it's a bad time. I don't understand why people take deliriants or other profoundly dysphoric substances, but I don't judge them for doing so. I wouldn't be interested in kappa agonism heavy opioids myself.


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