>>442011
why are you sick of these threads? i was just asking a question you buttfuck

>>442229
i just wanna be like my fav rapper

>>442229
I answered your question and more..
I simply stated that i was not bumping.
not bumping.

>>442011
With a tolerance, the itch isn't a problem. I take 600mg+ everyday and I get zero itching. In the beginning my skin would be on fire, though.

>>442498
I do agree. The prometh would help in his case too.

Black trails for days. BWN

>>442432
The whole thing was a dream. I would never swap fire arms for guns nor associate with people who do nor even dream about people doing such. But you wouldn't believe it. I was minding my own business when a leprechaun came up and thrust a piece of paper into my hand. it said this:

"sup /opi/, having a mean day. Mates over and we're listening to records. Planning to go see my dealer at some point to get the rest of the gear he owed me on that swap but by some miracle he offered to deliver. This is the same guy who can make you wait at the park for 20 minutes sometimes. Anyway, the intial plan was to go get the gear he owed, then some rits. Since I'd have plenty of H and methadone and benzos, the comedown wuoldn't be so bad, but the dealer gave me some meth instead. Going to be interesting. I mean I got enough benz that the comedown will be cosy but yeah"

and that's all the note said. Can't believe the callous and illegal behavior of these irish folktale creatures.

pic related: crappy iphone picture of my setup

oh nz you

bump

>>442495
That looks like the public toilets on pitt street

>>442496
mount albert

>>442437
Heroin blend

Seriously I don't lnow though so no bump

Bali is probably the best bang for your buck opiate-like kratom. To be honest though, I've never really experienced the stim-like effects that people talk about (with any strain). I also like Maeng Da, if you can get your hands on that.

Nausea for me is never a problem if you pop 50 mg of DPH beforehand, but that will eliminate most of the stim effects (if there are any).

>>442460
No, you're retarded

>this thread

'can you feel it?
can you feel the love?
nothin' feels better
than feelin' the love'

>>442488

seriously though, although i can feel the love here, OP we can't help you without basic stuff, like your tolerances to drugs, or even like - what are you worried about? overdosing? bad combination of stuff? too stimmed, heart pacing, etc. hard to help if you say "i took this stuff. help" and then "am i ok"

you didn't even say when you took the MXE

you WILL experience w/d's if you use enough on a regular basis. no one's immune to a physical addiction to opiates. we have no idea how much you're taking and how often but it sounds like you don't use on a daily basis.

>>442400
i meant to say "a lot on a daily basis" but it sounds that you have never given it enough time in between doses to come into withdrawal or you're just plan not using much. no withdrawals symptoms from a daily user is UNHEARD of unless it's a small amount you're using.

>>442401
That's probably it, I do small lines all day to maintain a strong buzz, I may nod once a week.

like you, it took me months to get withdrawal symptoms... trust me, they'll come. you already sound mentally hooked, so just stop now. if you dont, you basically have approx a 90% chance of fucking your entire life up with addiction. choose wisely.

and remember, MOST of us thought we were too smart / immune to addiction, or something similar. your not. your just a plain old boring human being, and opiates have an insane impact on your reward center, meaning that no matter who you are, your brain will blow a massive load and crave the fuck out of them.

If you've been using H almost every day consistently, then you just haven't given it enough time. It took me about a month of doing it every other day to get a physical dependence, and I didn't notice at first cause WDs took over 36 hours to really kick in

Is there a picture guide or video for poppy seed tea somewhere? I tried to make some and I'm feeling it right now (feels like 25mgs of ER hydro for only $4 fuck yeah) but I kinda fucked up making it (spilled a bunch of seeds, got seeds in the tea, etc.). Also, are hydros super expensive now for anyone else? I used to get them for $.1 per mg and now its $6 for 10mgs (and they're not even norcos)!

Can you CWE any opiate containing APAP/Tylenol/Aceminophan/Paracetamol (huge spelling errors)?

I'm getting codeine and tramadols. Can I take them together? Can I CWE them together?

1) How much tramadol and codeine can I take regularly without damaging myself too much physically? I'm in a third world country and I'd be a fool to not make good use of this shit. Can I mix codeine and tramadol? Can you drink the day before or after opiate use if no apap?

2) Can APAP still be contained in the mixture from a faulty or nooby CWE?

3) Do people mix opiates with benzos? Benzos are OTC here as well, and if not, can I be taking one night after the other of different drugs?

4) I'm thinking about taking 150-200MG Tramadol for my 3rd time taking opiates.

I don't want to sound like I'm speaking out my ass, but I think I have a natural tolerance for opiates. The first time I popped 15MG Hydrocodone. I felt pretty good and was slurring, and it was a good dose for what it was.

Second time around I popped a 5 MG to sleep, then the next night I popped 35MG hydrocodone, and I felt nothing. Empty stomach, everything, but I did have some bit caffeine an hour after ingesting (although caffeine does NOT effect me ever, literally have never felt anything from caffeine in my life before except once when i chugged a redline).

Third time around I popped 210MG Codeine and felt next to nothing. I smoked a cigarette and it boosted it a little. But I felt more off the initial 15MG hydrocodone.

So how much tramadol should I take? Yes I know erowid, I did use it, but I don't know about for me.

>>442475

>How much tram/codeine can you take without physical damage?

You can take a fairly infinite dose of codeine as often as you want without doing yourself any physical damage, however you MAY scratch yourself to death.
Apparently codeine has a ceiling dosage of 400mg and anything after that is not used by your body.
Personally i believe this is a myth. IMPE it hasn't proven true and several others on this board agree with me so im sticking with that.

On the other hand your risk of seizure dramatically increases after 350-450mg of Tramadol and therefore i would advise sticking to a maximum dose of 350mg.
However people can, have done and will continue to take far greater doses of Tramadol than this, without subjecting themselves to a seizure but the risk is greatly increased.

>Can you drink?

Yes you can drink the day before/after and during if you pace yourself. I wouldn't recommend it personally and it will add to respiratory depression but i do often indulge in a nice Cooper's Pale while i nod.
If there is no APAP you will be doing yourself no physical damage no matter how much codeine you take unless of course you take too much and get nauseous and throw up but even then there is no long term damage.
You could take large doses daily again with no physical damage however you WILL become dependent on both Tramadol or Codeine if you continue to dose regularly. Both of which will be unpleasant at the least to withdraw from and i know at least one tripfag that frequents this board will tell you Tramadol withdrawal is worse than any other withdrawal said person has endured.
I would be worried about frequency of use based on this alone. You really dont want to become dependent on any opiate. Especially the "shittier" opiates because you're in serious trouble if you ever find high end opiates.

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>>442475
Are you in SEA? nb

>>442314
How come you say that? You mean just to enhance it, or just to kill the time for it to kick in?
Yeah, I did a decent amount of research. I read every forum post on every link in the first page of google.
I'd NEVER put anything in my body without researching it first. I'm in no way a health freak, you just gotta be cautious.

Yeah, the brand I've gotten are well known to be washed, but god damn, the water was so dirty, it was like milk.
They're saying you can get two washes before you should throw them, so that costs around $2.50 per dose. That's not bad at all.
I can already feel the opiate itch, my eyes feel tired and I feel pretty fucking chilled.

It's mix of black seeds, grey seeds and even what looks like to be red seeds. So I either got a good mix, or my lack of tolerance is making it more effective than it would usually be.

Nah dude, you're being helpful as fuck. I really appreciate it.
This board has the best people on it. Everyone is always so chill.
So do you not take opiates anymore? What drug/drugs DO you do?

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>>442315
could you tell us what brand of seeds you use? ive tried so many and never had any luck

>>442319
I just mean so you know what you're getting yourself into. Your questions indicated you had done little research but it sounds like you know whats going on, so dont worry about it.
The colour should be dark-darker yellowish brown i believe. Not milky white.
The more grey seeds you see, the less you want the seeds. Your lack of tolerance probably would get you a bit of a buzz.
How did it go overall?
I do still take opiates. Pretty much whatever is available from time to time.
The only local sources for poppies here come in 60g bags and at a price.
Also the seeds look like fairly low quality, quite possibly have been washed and i read an article recently about GSK who are the majority producer here and apparently all of their poppies have a high thebaine content which is not what you want.
GSK supply apparently 95% of the seeds here and im sure i could source larger amounts than 60g's somewhere but even if i do.. the seeds are no doubt washed.
I just haven't bothered with seeds. I might try and knock off enough bags from the surrounding supermarkets and do a wash sometime just to see how the seeds go but normally it would be cheaper and easier for me to just do a CWE, or even isolate the codeine completely.
If i found someone who supplied large bags of decent quality seeds id jump right on it.
A friend of mine used to work at a bakery and he was going to get a 25kg bag of seeds wholesale. The seeds are quality because he's brought some home before and we had done a wash.
I think the boss knew what was up though.. Yeah it never ended up happening.

I made pst with1/2 pound because I was worried about overdosing a few weeks ago. I don't think it did much of anything.

>>442476

these are my favorite posts. thank you, your subjective experience has now proven PST is all crap??? or, are you simply stating with no intent to mean anything beyond simply ; i tried it and it wasn't too good, just to let you know. in that case, thats cool, really cool u hu$$la.

i've tried about 15 brands. one brand, varies from batch to batch. i prefer may 09 to may 02, but may 02 is better than march 13. which is better than march 12 and 11. but when we get to april 11? just as good as may 09.

and then there are another brand that i like to use from another store, etc etc. it's about finding it.

if you're not willing to look for good seeds and make it properly, im glad people like that don't get into it??? like more for me honestly. too many people know about it and im reluctant to give out sources esp,. if they live in canada since im in the GTA and pretty much everyone lives there (sorry albertans).

i never understand how people buy bad or washed seeds. i understand its not practical to be able to smell pre-packaged stuff (such as my main source). but some easy principles to add depth to the original content in thread

1 - smell - this sense is important as washed seeds have a very sterile quality which is hard to describe until you smell it. when you have bad seeds and you make tea and know they are bad, take a whiff. this is your benchmark for shitty seeds. good seeds will literally smell like dirt, or pungent, or just plain bad. it won't smell nice. earthy kind of smells.

2 - sight - you'll be looking for SMALL seeds. the smaller they are, usually correlates to their potency. if you find large seeds, esp if they are very large like sesame seed large, AVOID. darker does not always mean better by the way! dark seeds are usually good, but i've had both really small dark seeds and really smell normal looking grey-ish dark blue seeds, and they both were excellent. if they are dark, they are not gauranteed to be better then comparable seeds that are white - but in general if they ARE dark, they will GENERALLY be pretty good. im trying to say they wont be better then comparable ones, but if they are small and black, thats good.

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Look for the General Questions thread! You'll get a quicker response. I mean if you've IV'd dilly's before, then you know how to shoot, but you do not have any tolerance to opiates at the moment, correct? That's awesome. If you have the pure oxycodone pills with no filler, then just follow the regular pill IV method with the filtering. Also every pill will still have some binders in them, even IR oxy's, so it's never healthy to do it but it shouldn't cause problems. Fill up the syringe, whens you draw blood, inject 1/4 of the solution, then continue if you wish. Although that will ruin the rush a bit but it would be safer and you'd be much higher than just oral use. Just watch out and don't shoot too much at once, you have 0 tolerance.

First of all, I am jealous you can get OCs, I figured all the pre abuse proof OCs were gone. And I've only IV'd morphine a couple times (didn't enjoy it) and tried with tar one time but ended up skin popping/IMing it. But I never understood shooting oxy with such a high oral/nasal bioavailability and all the IV users I know say that oxy is nothing compared to dillies/morphine/dope. I'd rail or pop it, I don't think it's worth the potential problems and if you're used to shooting 4mg dillies, you're probably gonna be disappointed. My 2 cents

>>442370
Dude you really dont need to worry about IVing dilaudid what so ever, let alone filtering it 3x. Dilaudid contains 100% safe binders, either they are 100% safe to IV and water soluble, or not water soluble and still safe to IV (Except for particle size ofcourse). Dilaudid contains lactose anhydrous (sometimes 1 other type of lactose), magnesium sterate, and occasionally sodium metabisulfite and yellow 10. There is 1 brand of dilaudid with some weird binders in it but its pretty rare...

This is just a FYI. I too wheel filter my dilaudid but that is mainly with .22micron filters so it gets rid of 99.9% of all bacterium. But filtering once with a good compressed cotton will give you a 100% safe IV solution (not counting bacteria of course).

>>442482
Forgot to say that the size of Dilaudid, plus the super safe binders makes them by far the safest opiate to IV. I mean there are dilaudid that are about the size of 50mg tramadol generics (even though they are oblong and dilaudid is round). They dont contain any of the harmful binders like talc (like oxy) and micro crystalline cellulose (probably the worst thing you could put in your veins).

also if you can handle IVing 4mg dilaudid, you can handle iving 20mg of oxy because 2mg of dilaudid is the standard dose for IVing (and some times people need only 1mg). But I recommend you do 10mg to start with and then do the other 10mg if you dont feel exactly the way you want. With oxy you wont feel any rush to speak of (unlike dilaudid), just a quick comeup. I mean some people report getting a rush with oxy but they are few and far between. I have always wondered why IV oxy doesn't give a rush but I cant figure it out... Anyway Oxy is far more dangerous because it contains talc and hypromelloses which is a type of cellulose, and it could be as bad as micro crystalline cellulose.

Anyway really IVing oxy a few times isnt going to harm you. You would need to IV it a lot to worry about it. Talc will build up in your system because its a stone and could cause anything from blood clots to causing it to pool behind your eyes and causing you to go blind (idk if this is true, its something I have read a few places. This could be a D.A.R.E scare tactic).

>>442345 yeah, i'd say it's over kill. i'm using subs right now to detox, though i've had a 4 and a half year habit of heroin/morphine and about 3 years of IV use so. but honestly i'd just man up and go through the mild WD, cause IMO it's not worth fucking up your receptors using the subs.

just kind of a random side note, but i see a lot of poeple get on subs or methadone who have like a 70mg hydro habit and it makes me sad, cause kicking subs or done is way worse than kicking a small little habit. the wd's would last like 2 or 3 days vs the subs/done lasting weeks. idk just my 2cents. sorry for the ramble i took some addy to help me on my night shift tonight lol

>>442374
Yeah I suppose I've done it before... It was uncomfortable and shitty but then again I don't know what "real" wd entails...

>>442399
Real withdrawls are throwing the sheets off you every 5 minutes in the night because of RLS, having to sleep with a bucket beside you to catch the shit and vomit beside you as you can't make it to the bathroom, wanting to cry but not being able to as you're so dehydrated, falling asleep for 5 minutes then waking up wishing you were dead, thinking you've pissed the bed then realising it was only sweat.

Lope will just fill up your opioid receptors and prolong whatever withdrawl you might have. Just take a break. If you want to play with opiates youll have to harden up and learn to get used to being sick or learn to takes breaks in your use so you don't get sick.

Your choice, but you definitely don't have a habit at that point. It takes longer then that for you to get your first habit usually. Want to know if you have a habit? Take a sub right after you do some heroin. If you are truly addicted it will throw you into early withdrawls (PWD). Don't do it if you know you have a habit because it is just about the most brutal thing you will ever go through.

Suboxone replaces opiates, and is a maintenance drug like methadone. If you aren't addicted yet then taking subs will definitely make you addicted.

>>442444
Lope is a peripheral acting opioid, meaning that it activates the opioid receptors outside the CNS, lowering cramping and diarrhoea but not getting you high (unless you take a certain type of enzyme inhibitor.
After using lope to cope with w/ds and then even stopping it cold turkey it's less severe than even mild H w/ds

>>442412
the e one i read is the most powerful though its not manufactured anywhere n some doctor was makin it n was arrested n with thru wds that were so horrid he killed himself ...but idk if thats true....use google

>>442423
Etorphine is widely produced as a large animal (think bears) tranquiliser. It has to be packaged with naloxone in case the person administering it accidentally comes into contact with it.
nb as unrelated to thread topic

>>442423
Pills, are you on drugs?

>>442409
That was it...isn't it unscheduled?

>>442427
most of the tyme

>>442436
+1 for heroin

>>442430
You said that heroin was more addictive than alcohol earlier in the thread, then correct someone later for saying it? wut?

>>442453
To be fair, there is a difference between saying it's more addictive versus you're more likely to get addicted to it. I think his point was that with the way the system is today, there are far more alcoholics per capita.

You could argue that as a point against the legalization of narcotics, but I've heard Baron's full argument for it in the past and I'd have to agree with him. I'll leave it up to him to type up his ideal situation for it, but I think he was talking about there being a lot of prerequisites before you'd be allowed to purchase.

>>442455
No there isn't. More addictive literally means that you are more likely to get addicted to it. What else could it possibly mean?

>>442456
If more people are using alcohol by a drastic margin, then despite how addictive it is relative to heroin, you're more LIKELY to get addicted to it.

If the same amount of people who used alcohol used heroin, then there would probably be more heroin addicts. That's the difference between saying " you're more likely to get addicted to it" and "the substance itself is more addictive".

He's not saying heroin's less addictive, he's saying that out of the general population you're more likely to find an alcoholic before a heroin addict. Not sure how else to explain it.