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Getting back "In The Game" after being in Recovery by Reuben Hiblingpudging - Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:12:48 EST ID:/yBOLGo1 No.516379 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So tomorrow is my last drug test. I took subutex for close to two years and have been clean from it for a couple months now. I've been clean from opiate pills/and heroin for 2 years.

I still feel like life is missing that "spark", that "flavor" . You know? That special feeling that only opiates give you. That feeling of warmth I felt as a child. I wish to hell it wasn't this way but it is. I went thru doing NA/AA meetings, probably went to 50 of them, did outpatient therapy for over a year, the whole nine yards. I haven't found it especially difficult to stay away from opiates. I just stopped one day and didn't pick it back up.

I don't identify with being an "addict". I shot heroin but I didn't do it every day, and my life didn't revolve around it. I only went into recovery because my parents found and and forced me too under the penalty of disowning me. I've been doing this shit for two years. And I'm sick of it.

I'm tired of the emptiness inside. Anyone else there been able to come back from being labeled an addict,, and been able to start using "responsibly" again? I would only use on the weekends, would not shoot again, only take prescription pills.

Or is this just wishful thinking? I'm just so tired of feeling so alone all the fucking time. I want opiates to numb everything again.
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Baron Von Feelgood - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 08:17:33 EST ID:+m5qbAJi No.517266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517237
>I'd argue that our understanding of addiction has progressed far enough since that period in history that it would no longer be ethical for any government to allow the private enterprise of wholesale heroin
This is a moral argument based on flawed morality.

>nor would it be ethical for medical professionals to prescribe it to their patients.
Tell that to Switzerland (who got loads of shit from the US for initiating the program), Germany, Denmark and Austria. Guess what, they count all their programs a great success, do their statistical analysis a better and different way (In most US places and UK places they count a maintenance as a statistical 'success' as someone signing up and joining, even if they leave three weeks later and go back to using, the four countries mentioned above measure treatment success as someone who stays on the treatment for a year along with improving their life situation, they've found that the best way to have this happen is give addicts a prescription of Heroin (or morphine for Austria), ethically speaking if someone is improving their lifestyle, keeping on a maintenance program and not using and (here's the big one) not committing crime to get Heroin is that not an ethical success rather than failure.

>I'd also argue that what certain substance control acts were originally designed for is a non-issue
Not thirty years after they were designed, the people who wrote them up asked for repeal. They are antiques, if a pharmacy sells drugs that firstly diverts money away from the police since they're going to have to chase after real criminals now and the DEA would pretty much end up abolished (one huge tax drain completely disappearing), oh yeah and the drugs themselves would generate revenue. What is not to like about this scheme?

>Healthcare and insurance costs are growing in response to the economic drain of dealing with drug dependency.
I would absolutely love to see a source for this one.

>Hospitals incorporate 12 step or other treatment programs because statistically they provide the best prognosis
Wrong. They provide them because they're most well known. If you told people you were offering CBT instead of ridiculous 12 stepping they'd have no clue what CBT is and go elsewhere, where they offer cult indoctrination. I'm pretty sure Vice did an article on how rehab and rehab clinics are a complete and utter joke. Giving the patients a 400ug dose of acid in a comfortable environment when they aren't withdrawing would likely offer a better prognosis. As would ibogaine. But wait, both of those are illegal aren't they? Seems almost like they _want_ addicts to have a shitty prognosis.
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Hamilton Sarringspear - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:20:52 EST ID:M0spbPRs No.517267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517266
Really high and havent rly read this whole post and not trying to basjh you but you're wrong... Ibogaine helps because it can literally stop withdrawals, acid and other /psy/ on the otherhand do almost NIL and are useless except for killing boredom and anhedonia. If my only WD tool was /PSY/ and some therapy I would relapse 99% of the time. I've taken LSA (naphtha extracted from HBRW), 2c-i and mdma in withdrawal and all of them made feel worse except for MDMA which only improved my mood moderately and did nothing for the WD symptoms obviously. And no shit they want addicts to have a shitty prognosis hence drug laws

>You cannot abuse a drug, it is an inanimate object.
Also dude, come on, seriously?
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Dayvan !!LQk+Quj8 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:30:11 EST ID:wfGsb8Qi No.517284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517266
Yes, you can abuse an inanimate object... Also, drug abuse is certainly becoming a larger problem as time progresses (at least in the United Sates, can't vouch for other places.) I've heard this firsthand from a senior instructor at my university who has a PhD in Cognitive Nueroscience.

Published by the US gov:
>Healthcare and insurance costs are growing in response to the economic drain of dealing with drug dependency.
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Dayvan !!LQk+Quj8 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:32:55 EST ID:wfGsb8Qi No.517285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517284
Pasted the wrong thing, my bad, it's somewhere in here:
http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/addiction-science/what-addiction

nb
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Baron Von Feelgood - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:48:54 EST ID:+m5qbAJi No.517286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517267
First off, to clarify; I was comparing acid to 12 step programs, where people have usually either gotten through the WD stage or are on a substitute. Speaking for myself psychedelics kept me clean for a year. Why did I start using again? I stopped using psychedelics. Before the whole acid ban took effect they had very promising results with using LSD on alcoholics and other addicts, the only issue is that they tended to relapse after six months from their last dose.
Ibogaine helps because it stops withdrawals and also seems to have a lasting effect on the endorphin/opioid system essentially causing it to reset, it stops your withdrawals and after that you have little want to use. It's much better than the current drug-assisted withdrawal system they have where they sedate you with ketamine then pump you full of naloxone; apparently this is complete and utter torture.

>>517284
>Published by the US gov:
>Words
I'd love to see where that is published, because your quoted phrase leads straight back to here when googled with quotes, without them the phrase turns up nothing about healthcare and insurance costs rising because of drug dependency.

>I've heard this firsthand from a senior instructor at my university who has a PhD in Cognitive Nueroscience.
>He has a PhD in a completely unrelated field yet what he said must be true and not just him placing the blame on addicts for his increased healthcare bills.

Besides that, instituting a proper system of education and making drugs legal would reduce the prices of drugs (and thus reduce crime), take one big method of making money away from organised criminals and generate tax revenue (which can go back into helping treat drug dependency for those who can't afford or cope with it).
But it's immoral so it shouldn't happen, right?


time capsule? by Martha Bindersack - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:11:34 EST ID:Yl+o5tuq No.517273 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey, I know this is an unusual question and might take a bit of consideration but would you recommend this idea

basically, i have no intention of doing hard opiates now. My life is not great, im not happy, im already struggling with weed alcohol tramadol and speed (smackheads you dont have to dick-measure misery I already know my situation is a beach house in Tijuana compared to yours) but I really want to try them at some point in my life, when I'm very old or get diagnosed with something terminal. I worry though, that by the time I have no hope and therefore no reason not to start using them, I'll be too old/physically impaired to cop some shit. So is it feasible/ sensible to buy like 2 grams of heroin, a few oxys and some fent, then like keep them in a little box in my attic or whatever as my go-to stash when the situation arises? I'm open to all perspectives but the two main concerns I was hoping to ask about are the molecular stability of the drugs (will they lose potency) and willpower (is the fact that I don't know what they feel like enough to beat the temptation to do them)?

thanks for any insight you can offer on this plan
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Bigd555 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:42:30 EST ID:ijKWQaLV No.517275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517273
This is a weird WEIRD question. But anyway skip putting away heroin, as it will degrade back into morphine after a while. Stick to pills as the only thing that happens is they lose some potency over time, but that takes decades. But I will say this. You aren't going to keep them till you are old, no matter how much you think you will right now. One day you will have an especially shitty day and you need a release, so you break into your stash and find out that "damn I'm suddenly having a pretty good day, I feel great" and that's how your path to addiction will start.

Start analogyepressed people, and people with mental problems who have tried opiates are like moths, and opiates are like bright lights. We flock towards opiates because it is all we know. Some times (although rarely) that bright light turns out to be a bug zapper and your salvation suddenly becomes your death.

I hope this helps. But it's not going to work the way you are thinking. Plus if your old you can get some opiates legibly, and definitely if your terminal.
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Bigd555 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:48:51 EST ID:ijKWQaLV No.517277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517275
Depressed*
Legitly*
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Edward Gorringcocke - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:54:36 EST ID:6aRgYbvo No.517279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trying opiates is almost giving up on getting satisfaction by life itself, if you fix your life and try opiates you'll still end up abusing the shit out of opiates because it feel better than life itself.

I'd still say that if you can achieve a stable life, using an opiate a handfull of times trough the year and not doing much is possible.
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Dayvan !!LQk+Quj8 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:03:47 EST ID:wfGsb8Qi No.517280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you have a tramadol problem then yes, you are going to have an opiate problem. Also don't get yourself stuck on the semantics of "hard opiate," because trust me, it's all about the dose.

Don't go out and buy yourself some opiates. What you're explaining could certainly be possible with the right person, but ask yourself this: If you had a stash of a few grams of speed in your desk that you were saving for a year from today and you absolutely could not cop any, how long would you last without trying any of it?
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Fanny Blandlekutch - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:09:52 EST ID:Ivq2Efxk No.517283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517273
why not just store it right. only thing is once you run out of tram youll be like god damn those are like this but better lmao


Contemplating making some PST by Caroline Porringmun - Wed, 25 Feb 2015 18:14:41 EST ID:+qCYwfpw No.516526 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I take opiates probably 4-6 times a month, usually about 40mg of hdyrocodone at a time, or one roxy. I used to be a regular user but I got sober and went back to school, so I'm familiar with 80-160mg or so type oxy habits.

Anyway, I'm bored as shit after graduating and looking for a job/waiting for grad school to start and I've got the idea to make some poppy seed tea. I checked the regular grocery store and unsurprisingly they only have bullshit brands.

Is it worth the time and effort to hit up the local Asian market to see if they have bulk unwashed seeds? Never messed with PST and I'm pretty broke/lazy, I don't want to go all the way out to this sketchy ass store and make a noxious concoction to end up sober.
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Jenny Nittinghitch - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 14:25:22 EST ID:+qCYwfpw No.517108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>516543

Does it constitute sourcing if I ask you to ballpark an appropriate brand?
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Rebecca Finninghat - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:06:56 EST ID:lzVoDsSI No.517131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've hit a dry spell with my regular Opi's of choice so I'd like to give this a try. I'm not at all knowledgeable on the subject though. Could somebody describe the steps that go into making this tea?
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 22:13:46 EST ID:SF+lCQLp No.517132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517107
IME, the local organic stores will be terribly overpriced-- I'm talking like, $13.99 a pound.
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Fuck Worthinglock - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:44:15 EST ID:zVuUdfj0 No.517276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>close to running out of seeds
>go to the online store to buy more
>decide to do two day shipping, it's usually like 12 bucks
>it's fucking 50 dollars for some reason
>expedited shipping is 14 bucks, decide to try it
>order the seeds
>estimated delivery is a week from now

God fuck you Amazon, your strong arm Prime tactics have turned a minor inconvenience into a tolerance break. why would I even pay extra for expedited shipping if it still takes a week. God fucking damn.
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Dayvan !!LQk+Quj8 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:07:57 EST ID:wfGsb8Qi No.517281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517276
Really? The latest even a 3rd party seller has shipped something out from amazon has been the day after my order, and UPS has guarantees on expedited deliveries that they've stayed true on for me up until the recent snowstorm in the US, when I got a two-day package in three days. I've probably ordered hundreds of things 1-2 day shipping using Prime and never had a problem


hard to find veins, and hard to know when registered by Martin Clebbletirk - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 06:25:27 EST ID:IblBsbeg No.517166 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i'm a noob at shooting black tar heroin, i've probably done it 10ish times now, but haven't been able to mediate a few problems...

like, for example, how can i tell if i'm actually in a vein if when i try to register, the liquid my blood is flowing into is as black as sin?

another thing is i'm running out of spots to shoot. I'm fat, 310lbs, and there only visible veins without tying is on top of my hands, mt wrists, and the crook of my left arm. I can't hit my forearm, too fat. not gonna hit my dick. how do i increase longevity of my veins?
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Edward Pellerlen - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 08:10:07 EST ID:zpM8XeHR No.517169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
be gentle with your veins, do push ups/hot shower/tie off before shooting (untie after registering before shoving off), i can feel when i have pierced a vein but i am 130lbs, you registered if dark blood in syringe youll know if u hit an artery, opiates increase water retention which makes it harder to find veins sometiems gl m8
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George Snodstock - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:51:18 EST ID:2zIvF8KQ No.517238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not good to keep on but if you know where vein is, some people go deep in their arms.

You can just have a little air in the tip so it looks clear and if one were to
find a vein it should fill the empty space red immediately. May want to
slightly pull the plunger beck just slightly while doing this.
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Charlotte Clayford - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:21:05 EST ID:IblBsbeg No.517274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517166
OP here. done with drugs. Binged really hard for days, i kind of feel like i might die now
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Augustus Lightdale - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 12:53:36 EST ID:ZmaNEeWi No.517278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517274
>OP here. done with drugs

Yeah we've all told ourselves that. You'll be back a few days after the comedown is over. Enjoy the never ending ride.
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Charlotte Clayford - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 13:09:40 EST ID:IblBsbeg No.517282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517278
nah i'm really done. my arms and wrists hurt so bad from injecting/missing, i can't think in a straight line, my bank account has 8 bucks in it, i haven't made any appointments i promised to make (including a new job that would've netted me $18/hr), i got emotionally bitch-slapped by this scum of the earth girl once again, and i feel suicidally depressed. so fuck drugs


50mg Tramadol by Wesley Brookford - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 11:07:43 EST ID:jVkhFTB+ No.517270 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My friend is about to swing by and bring me three 50mg Trams. I didn't plan to go over 100mg today, but what's a recreational dose? The only other pain pills in my area are Oxy 30's which I will no longer buy for $30 each.

I'm just using it until these three are gone, I read that it's not very safe and doesn't have recreational value. But I have nothing to do so I wanna get my nod on.. if these even make you nod.
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Thants - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 11:28:30 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.517271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take all 3 you'll be fine. It's usually only around 600mg+ doses that things can get sketchy for people. Taking 150mg Tram in a day is nothing to be worried about. I would suggest taking 100mg then about an hour later take the other 50, Trams work better if you stagger the doses. If you have any kind of tolerance though you may as well save them because they are not very strong and are about on par with codeine.
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Edward Gorringcocke - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 11:34:09 EST ID:6aRgYbvo No.517272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517271
The stagering is one every 30 min.


IVing MundiPharma MScontins by James Cendersirk - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 06:29:43 EST ID:H+fU9WAz No.517263 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im an Aussie. I used to shoot the orange 60mg MScontins made by MundiPharma. Every time I fixed one I would get a very uncomfortable rush and a killer headache and then get instant WD like symptoms the next day even from just two pills used at once.

Normally I wont get WD's anywhere near like this after an opiate binge of any other kind.. One dose MScontin will make me sick as fuck and feel like death for 24-48 hours after the high wears off until I started "crisping" them in a spoon until they were a beige/brown colour.

Now I get 100mg grey MScontins, also made by MundiPharma, however these wont "crisp" in a spoon, no matter how much heat/cooking before water the colour of the powder never changes and I always get the same headache symptoms after shooting and the same WD like symptoms for 12-48 hours the next day.

In all circumstances I have been using 1.20um followed by .20 micron wheel/pill filters. I have both added heat after water and used cold water ect.

The fact that the undesirable side effects stopped when I began "crisping" or cooking the pills in metal spoons leads me to believe its not actually in any way related to physical WD's but more related to the wax or binders in the pills.

Does anyone know why this happens or what causes it?
Does anyone have other methods of IVing these grey's, or is there something im doing wrong?

This is really killing me because I love morphine and these are quite easy for me to obtain at the moment.
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Eliza Lightshit - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 07:52:00 EST ID:zpM8XeHR No.517265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517263
maybe try using less
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Edward Gorringcocke - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:38:57 EST ID:6aRgYbvo No.517269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mundipharma

God damn! How aussie!

Op please stop injecting pills, not a good idea.


BWN by Thants - Fri, 27 Feb 2015 20:51:41 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.516829 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm taking the BWN for Canada guys!
Get in here!
Bumping on some seeds.
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nate !heROinWJT. - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:37:59 EST ID:vmnitSJk No.517246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>517244
Yeah word. Oxycodone is actually piss weak when you have a tolerance. Honestly oxycodone is actually pretty shit-tier, i don't see or understand all the hype it gets. Maybe only for people with no tolerance.

I did 200mg (10X 20mg oxynorms) about a week or two ago and barely got a buzz like you said. Maybe about half as good as half my methadone dose shot up.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:33:22 EST ID:m9JqdXQT No.517254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>517245
Yeah oxy just doesn't cut it. I found it to have a weak onset / rush too. Just to add insult to injury. But admittedly when I had the 300mgs, I slept okay. So I wasn't sick. I wasn't euphoric however. I guess that's the 80mgs of methadones doing. Using globalrph's dose equivalent caluclator, it said 300mgs of oxycodone orally, converted to methadone (when used heavily) was 60mgs. That's 20mgs less then my dose. Which seems right. It felt about the same as if I'd drank double my dose. no euphoria but definitely SOMETHING there.

Hospital grade from like the 40s perhaps. I've got a set of about five 5ml and one 1ml glass rigs and they're a form of luer lock. Basically two female luer ends that fit onto each other with pressure and work fine.

Frankly I'd be worried about all the metal parts. Which is why I passed on buying em myself. Tons of places for bacteria and germs to hide and it's not like you or I have an autoclave. Guess you could wing it. Use a pressure cooker or something maybe but who would do that for a novelty? That's why they were replaced anyway. I keep my glass ones as a novelty. Used em once or twice and they go fine. Also all glass ones are easier to clean. glass is non porous.

Had my methadone today and then later, it's score o' clock. I've not really been bothering to post lately when I use. But things have been pretty good. Been using like nearly every day the past couple of weeks.
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 02:47:19 EST ID:fapHfApp No.517259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517254
the 1cc glass one we have doesn't have any metal parts

I just love getting high, being this high, and nodding the fuck out. glad I got away from heroin for the reasons everybody's mentioning, and what i said about dosing one day out of every eight. especially lucky to never shoot it. might be to do with methadone too. even feeling my attitude shift towards weed (and some benzos with a some spirits) rather than opiates.
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Luxinbuts, Fuxinsluts - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 04:17:57 EST ID:n9tAD1eb No.517262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>516829
Bump for .3g of rocked up beige heroin IV, followed up with 30mg of Oxymorphone sniffed a few hours later.
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Lillian Blytheforth - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 09:35:05 EST ID:7PQu4ZYd No.517268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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about 2mg sub finally kicked in, its like after i do it the w/d seems to get SO much worse while im waiting for it to kick in.. i wish i could nod from this but i actually still get high from it even with my large tolerance. I think i should quit for awhile as the other day i was inches from using a needle... Ive been using dope daily around IV users for like 3 years, I cant crack now. Its so hard knowing i could get so high instead of just well off of a bag.. Just wanted to vent about that.. otherwise time to play some vanilla WoW on feenix hit up Hiyde if you wanna play BWN


Oxy 80, what do? by Phoebe Sabblefoot - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 18:27:40 EST ID:tU0ky4OV No.517208 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just came into an oxy 80 extended release.
The exterior is hard, not dissimilar from concerta, i assume the XR system is similar as well.
I have no tolerance, any my only previous experience with opiates are vics and sizzurp (codeine w/ promethizine), and atm my tolerance is non existant.

My plan was to cut the thing in half with an xacto knife to bypass the xr and take one now, and the other at some unspecified time.

Is 40mg in one sitting too much? Should i quarter it instead?
I'm ganna drink grapefruit juice with it.

Can i sniff them? Assuming they're like the concerta's inside, i can't imagine how i'd go about cutting and sniffing them, given the consistency.

/opi/, what do?
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Bigd555 - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:01:22 EST ID:ijKWQaLV No.517224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517218
Nothing... It wouldn't defeat the time release mech... If you want it er than take half, shave it in as small of pieces as you can, then put it in coke for 12h and drink the liquid, but there's also the microwave method for crisping them to make it ir.

Also it's released over 12 hours.
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:09:48 EST ID:SF+lCQLp No.517226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can cut them really fine but you still cant sniff. I like cutting real fine and putting them in an alka seltzer-water solution or coke, and waiting at least 12 hours. Cutting it already does a lot so you can eat it, however it will dull the fuck out of your razor. Cutting it maximizes surface area for your stomach to attack the pill.
40mg is too much. Ive had friends puke from 20-30. Most were happy with 20. You can always take more, but never less.
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chronicthehemphog !.6Y6Ozl6tM - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:10:53 EST ID:SF+lCQLp No.517227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517214
The XR mechanism isnt like the concertas. Theres no sponge. The oxy is encased in methylcellulose or something like that. It takes a while to break down in your stomach.
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pstfiend - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 23:46:43 EST ID:mdwGhZPA No.517236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517218
chewing and holding it under the tongue will def boost the high. its not like making it all ir but its definitely helps
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Hugh Sollerkitch - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 07:22:05 EST ID:GVTxbWcf No.517264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517226
Alright. This looks like my plan.
I'm ganna quarter it, cut it as fine as I can, and eat it. Thank you good sir.


excersize on oxy by Clara Sembleman - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 00:46:02 EST ID:cER1YpAy No.517247 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hey guys, is it generally safe to do light excersize/cardio while on oxycodone?
if you have been doing excersize regularley like an hour or 2 of very light cardio per day, would it be ok to keep doing that on day's where you have a light dose of oxycodone (30mg) insufflated?

anyone know if it is generally considered ok to do excersize on oxy or is it to hard on your heart? need an answer somewhat quick if possible, cheers.
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Edward Gorringcocke - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:37:21 EST ID:6aRgYbvo No.517255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517252
The roa is higher with poping if i remenber, right?
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Eliza Honeyhood - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:41:34 EST ID:6im7FoTg No.517256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517255

it is, but for me and all friends that do it agree that the instant gratification and how good the high is of a nice line, is worth the trade off of getting slightly less high and it lasting not as long, which is really barely even noticable to begin with. its good to switch it up though every now and then though
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Eliza Honeyhood - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:44:03 EST ID:6im7FoTg No.517257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517256

and when i say slightly less high i mean slightly less high overall, i personally feel like i get higher snorting 30mg then swallowing it, it just doesn't last as long as taking it orally
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Eliza Honeyhood - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 01:48:35 EST ID:6im7FoTg No.517258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also i hope this goes without saying but i am refering only to instant release when i talk about snorting, aparently snorting extended release is dangerous, though i have never even gotten er. crushable IR's are the best
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Luxinbuts, Fuxinsluts - Wed, 04 Mar 2015 04:14:06 EST ID:n9tAD1eb No.517261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517247
I just got back from the gym. I sniffed 20mg of Oxymorphone before I left. It doesn't make you pump better, but it helps fight the laziness anyone can experience when going to the gym.


The curse of Escitalopram by Zozyman - Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:21:59 EST ID:AmQ7KeAy No.516181 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I take this medication for depression and anxiety. I love me some codeine as well. But it seems my medication causes me to need way more of the substance + synergisers or potentiators to even feel it's tickle! Can anyone tell me what would be good if 90mg used to get me feeling it but now nothing? Also I know promethazine always makes it effective for myself but I have to use that sparingly as 1. it's pricey where I live, more so than codeine (lolwat) 2. the lowest dosed still cause me minor delerium and it gives me a dry mouth like all hell and changed the taste of stuff to "NASTAY" for like 24hours.

halp me, I don't want to stop my anti-derps just to get high but I love opiates so much and it helps sleep BIG TIME. (also IMO better at reducing anxiety than these anti-derps or any of the benzodiazepines I have tried however I will note that zopiclone [z-drug like ambien] had massive anxiety relief.)
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:11:07 EST ID:KKzUTw2E No.516250 Report Quick Reply
>>516245
This, 90mg codiene is super lol, should double up at least. Be warned though like OGpeepee said it's tolerance and this will happen again if you keep using. Then you'll need more, then other opis, etc.
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Zozyman - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 04:12:09 EST ID:AmQ7KeAy No.517071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>516245
something odd happened, no tolerance break or anything but out of the blue the codeine started working much like it used to (same batch of meds, so I doubt the pills were bunk) Seriously not long after this topic I hat 150mg of codeine and it was so-so then maybe a little while later only 90mg and boom, I felt it. It my liver fucked or is my mind way more able to screw with feels than I give it credit?
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Phineas Drellerstone - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 04:26:03 EST ID:beazqijp No.517073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517071
>maybe a little while later

How much later?
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Phineas Drellerstone - Mon, 02 Mar 2015 05:27:39 EST ID:beazqijp No.517081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517073
The reason I'm asking is that your prior dose might still have been active in your system, meaning that your subsequent dose would've been added to your first.
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James Chibbertutch - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 22:35:07 EST ID:HHZg6lj8 No.517229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone else taking Mirtazapine (Remeron)? Without a doubt blunts the euphoria and dopaminergic effects of opiates. Went from 50mg Hydrocodone getting me high to 120mg barely sedating. I have plugged 24mg of hydromorphone and felt nothing, and before I took mirtazapine sniffing a single 8mg dilly would have me fucked.

I think it's because of the kappa opioid receptor effect of this pharm and some yet discovered pharmacokinetics it has. Some physicians prescribe it off-label to treat substance abuse issues.


When you can't cop, what gets you by? by David Drullynet - Sun, 01 Mar 2015 14:21:12 EST ID:4HCgwE/i No.517022 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Like myself, I'm full of money but lacking the connects. I just binged for a week on oxy and am dreading the following week like a motherfucker. I managed to scrape up some perc 5's (totally underrated) to get me by just one more day but tomorrow, barring a miracle, its dry time.

What, if any, methods or materials do you attempt or partake in to get you by?
This includes trips to the ER, thievery (NOT CONDONED) panhandling, trolling ghetto's etc.
What sometimes scores you that unexpected dose?
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Baron Von Feelgood - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 15:00:59 EST ID:+m5qbAJi No.517198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517139
> i have considering saying i have an allergy to apap to get dillies but im scared ill just get vicoprofen
When the doctors ask if you have any allergies just tell them you're allergic to non-narcotic pain killers.
Works every time

Seriously though, don't say that.

Also this is all dependent on where you're from, most of Europe (UK myself) has OTC codeine (and dihydrocodeine though you usually get grilled, they attempt to sell you the smallest possible amount and stuff, though going around with a crutch, faking a limp and saying you have a sprained knee and your doc's appointment isn't for a week and a bit can net you lots of paramol if you go to pharmacy to pharmacy.
On the subject of dihydrocodeine, if you can get it and have some rudimentary knowledge of chemistry (or can bake a cake by reading the recipe book) you might want to try your hand at extracting the DHC (if it's anything like codeine it'll crash out of solution when acetone is added and can be easily filtered up) once you've got your pure (or fairly pure) DHC all you need to do is reflux it with HBr (hydrobromic acid; easily bought online) for a few hours. If you're good at plumbing you could probably make some form of ghetto setup rather than using real glassware (you'll want a glass container for the HBr DHC mix though as the acid will eat through metal), after that glass container you'll want a tube going straight up with some copper piping going down and then up (or if you're feeling fancy entering from the sides and bending up, and re-entering. If you were to go the glassware way it'd cost you about £150 for glassware, £50 (max) for lab materials and £50 worth of paramol (or DF118s if you can get them) for about a gram of the final product; dihydromorphine (look it up, very promising) which you can isolate by neutralizing the acid with a base like NaOH (lye) or a weaker base. I'll sketch up some diagrams of how it should be done and how it could be done and post them here. Give me twenty or so minutes to do that but if you can be bothered with the initial investment and don't mind doing some kitchen cooking then this is the way to go.
But I digress as I …
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Nigger Dovingmeg - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:01:19 EST ID:h96K5A9D No.517201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Save yourself the time and effort plotting to get dope off a doctor, unless you're old and very clearly have real pain issues, you're just going to end up spending a shitload of money just to get some ibuprofen, assuming you don't set off red flags like crazy.

Unfortunately if it's that hard to cop where you live you're just shit outta luck
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pstfiend - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 16:20:38 EST ID:mdwGhZPA No.517202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517195 the urgent care doctor threw drugs at me even after not seeing a stone on a scan. he saw blood in my piss and me (faking) writing in agony and he was compassionate. i told him i passed a stone already and was just getting grit in my piss. he said the irritation to the urinary track causes spasms to said track and can hurt for days afterwords, hence why he wrote me a script for 20 norco 10s.
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Baron Von Feelgood - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:41:26 EST ID:+m5qbAJi No.517207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517202
That's impressive, as I've said, this is largely regional; you'd be lucky to pull trams for a kidney stone here. My mother ended up with severe second degree burns and one third degree (full thickness) burn, after she had been inducted to a ward they had her on 10mg oxycontin with 5mg oxynorms for breakthrough pain. Less than a week after her skin graft she left hospital with some oxynorm 5mgs; this was before the graft had even taken and stitches were still in place. Welcome to the opiophobic UK (which is more than happy to sell codeine OTC, strange huh).


>>517198
Here's some sketches of possible reflux setups, starting with the most expensive lab grade one and two of ones you could make with some effort, cost is in ascending order. Guides for the synthesis are easily found through google; some use HCL and boric acid instead of HBr, though you'll get similar yields with either. IIRC, the guide was on zoklet a long time ago, appears to have vanished now, I think it was reflux in HBr for 6-8 hours with a max yield of 98%; though I'd expect a yield closer to 80% due to losses in getting the DHC from the paramol then getting the DHM into solid form.
http://share.pho.to/8xGLt
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pstfiend - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:45:09 EST ID:mdwGhZPA No.517215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>517207
i actually think you guys strategy for controlling opiates makes alot more sense. Here in the states unless you have a relationship with a doctor where they trust what you say about your body (like your family or general doctor) or are in apparent dire need of relief you get nothing. But drugs are liberally dispensed by some doctors who are more for profit and end up everywhere. I have heard in the Uk where codeine and DHC is otc pills are few and far between. I believe having weaker stuff like codeine available otc for sprained ankles and toothaches puts less pressure on providers to worry about prescribing to those who clearly need and an ethical solution for those who are in question but still may need these drugs. Also im a good metabolizer of codeine and would devour a supply of lictus or codeine pills, so i could be biased.


Half life calculations - amidoinitrite? by Jack Fozzlegold - Tue, 03 Mar 2015 17:28:38 EST ID:YBsUdvUL No.517206 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So recently, when on oxy 30 benders, and when I'm re-dosing later on, I try to figure out what's likely still in my system since that last dose.
That said, google says the HL of IR Oxy is 3.2 hours. I"m going to round that up to 4 for safety and simplicity (which I usually do).

Let's say you take 60mg at 9am.
That means there's only 30 in your system by 1pm?
And my 5pm there's only 15mg etc?

In the same example, if you take another 30 at 1pm then you'll be back up to the 60 again, yes? Presumably, you start halving your amounts every 4 hours again based off the new totals.

It's always worked for me, insofar as I've never OD'd on them or even come close with this method.


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