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BWN by nz !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 22:16:13 EST ID:T0kToIqC No.594459 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The BWN is dead, Long live the BWN.
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John Billingfoot - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:19:47 EST ID:mADPRG2B No.595058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595047
your tolerance never stops to amaze me, Thomas
how long you are taking opioids? I have 6 years of expierence and got to about 2/3 of your M dose with any benzos I could get at given time
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:28:52 EST ID:CeSbtG40 No.595083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
late day tomorrow and late night tonight. Think its about time to call it a though so no bump. Just 1mg alp and another bowl to tuck me in. Gonna cut on some Tales from the Crypt til I pass out I think.

>>595028
I fucking love Love/Hate. Wish they hadn't cancelled the last season. I had just finished This is England and for some reason I always want to watch one after the other. You should check it out if you haven't. Its a movie plus 3 short seasons.
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Thomas de Queasy - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:51:39 EST ID:3q102wth No.595085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595058
Been on PM for 8 years now, first put on benz when I was 15.

Also, I do translation work to get by, trying to make it as a writer, though not in English for now. Turns out oxy is great for motivation and inspiration alike.

Preemptive BWN. Going for a fat shot soon.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:39:31 EST ID:0koeFMoY No.595094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Shot a real nice speedball earlier on and then had my second one a little bit ago. Along with some clonaz. Pretty typical Monday.
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Fuck Pimblepig - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:14:30 EST ID:8cGSyhVi No.595096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595094
what are you even sad about you shot some nice H or somethign with some coke and clonaz.
Smoek a joint and ur set


smug /plug/ feels by Beatrice Tootford - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 06:07:57 EST ID:gfgY24FA No.595034 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>tfw told my friend whose gf is going through withdrawal I can't sort her xanax because of money which is bullshit she just wouldn't hook me up with one of her friends

and before you point it out yes I am incredibly petty and bitter, but it's satisfying to imagine the stuck up bitch suffering. Who else got smug drug stories
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Esther Dengerwell - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:29:03 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595042
Knowingly putting someone in possibly fatal health hazard. If not a detective, a civill lawsuit. Just pointing out that what he wants to do is less moral than what I did in those 9 years.
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lol - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:17:03 EST ID:OyB2kD9T No.595065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595060

Wow I had no idea something like that could happen, must of never heard of it happening since Most addicts either don't have family left or dont talk to them that ive met, they don't care enough to do stuff like that maybe. Crazy to think you can get in trouble for refusing to participate in an illegal transaction
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Charlotte Barringstock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:07:23 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595065
Not sure if you're kidding but yep. Just check out all the stuff James (pull off) at his dipshit community service garbage collecting chief and all the possible kind of lawsuits he can sue him personally for. They all check out too.

I know somebody who was in a hell lot of trouble for taking away someone's methadone and flushing in down the toilet when at a party and opening the fridge to get a beer and seeing a 6 pack of methadone bottles there, He thought he was helping.
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Charlotte Barringstock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:12:46 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595068
>pull off
wordfiltwat?
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lol - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:58:13 EST ID:OyB2kD9T No.595095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595068

I didn't think this dude took anyone's medicine in the OPS post. I thought he just refused to sell them something


Poverty leads to addiction by naked snake - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:36:26 EST ID:sRdRP5N5 No.594977 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've been broke as fuck, got my own apartment but I'm just scraping by, and i use to sell a ton of heroin but the game got fucked up and now I'm rusty. My work cuts my hours. I injure myself and need money for a doctor. Like this is bullshit. It makes me think back to how easy it was to make dough....and I started doing small deals here and there, half in and half out. Naturally i started testing my bags and caught a habit. So my lust for money led me back to it. I'm just saying, sometimes the life is more appealing than the drug
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Esther Dengerwell - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:45:27 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
....and buying a bottle of codeine/prometh syrup will make you poor quickly as opposed to getting fucking T3's or T4's or pure codeine pills. The only commonly rx'd codeine syrup here is pure, 30mg per 5ml, tastes like honey, it's awesome. Hycodan is also pure, cherry pie flavour, mmmm. A shame none of 'em would do anything to me. Anyway nb. was just completing my hastily posted...post.
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Martha Pittshaw - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 00:52:33 EST ID:9jDHj/mE No.595076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595062
>>595061
Chill bro I only used it for comedic value.
Nobody fucking cares about codeine really, it’s all about imagery.
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:04:05 EST ID:CeSbtG40 No.595081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595049
I'm going to have to disagree here. Being poor doesn't in any way lead to being involved in crime. I grew up poor, so were the rest of my family and the majority of my community. Pretty much all of my friends and people I went to school with were poor. Very few of them turn to crime.

Drug use might be a good escape from being poor but there are plenty of people who use drugs who aren't poor and the only crime most of these people are involved in is when they are purchasing or in possession of their drugs. Other than that there are plenty of otherwise law abiding drug users out there.

I don't see how the drug market as a whole is a system of classist oppression. People of all classes use drugs and I'd say the majority of people in the lower classes don't use drugs at all. Most poor people I know are hardworking uber-Christian good ole boys.

I agree that drug users who are also poor are more inclined to commit other crimes to support their habit but that's about it.
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Charlotte Barringstock - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 05:14:24 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595076
Now that's a neat bottle.

Sorry just triggered by this whole purple drank nonsense, it pisses me off even more than the average knowledge Merkins have of PCP. Here it's common, lots of weed dealers sell it even, but it's extremely cut with lactose, they don't trust many people with pure...even the pure that's sold is not 100% pure, it's to make 10-15g of "mesc". I was having huge arguments on usenet back in the early '00s that measured doses of snorted pcp isn't like jolly african-americans smoking random quantities of pure liquid spread on cigs or dirt weed. so nb.
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Fuck Pimblepig - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:26:24 EST ID:8cGSyhVi No.595093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595088
Well, niggars will have nigro ways untill the very end.

Worse for them fucking their liver with promethazine and fake lean lol let them have their magical socially acceptable drink while we swear loyalty to the perky.


codeine phosphate + no tolerance by Frederick Surrysutch - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:30:23 EST ID:ej6B3R66 No.595073 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have infrequent but very severe panic attacks and I've decided to self-medicate because the doctors are being asses about prescribing me benzos.

How much should I take at zero tolerance to go from full fight-or-flight to "this is fine?" I don't want to be nauseous though and ideally shouldn't be nodding off or anything crazy like that. Just conscious and totally zen.

edit: I also heard that hydrocodone gets better results with less nausea, what would the equivalent dosage for that be?
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Martha Hidgelidge - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:54:22 EST ID:aabVmwpc No.595075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595074
Explain?
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Phineas Susslesat - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 01:17:02 EST ID:mADPRG2B No.595078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595075
There are better ways of fighting anxiety than risking opioid addiction
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James Henningson - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 01:20:59 EST ID:r+eNqqx8 No.595079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595078
Like? The last time I took a hydroxyzine I passed out, and when I woke up I was calm for a while and then had *horrific* rebound anxiety. Like, what's the point if it's going to make me even more anxious than usual when it wears off?

It's not like I'd be taking it every day, it's just something for emergencies.
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Phineas Susslesat - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 02:00:48 EST ID:mADPRG2B No.595080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595079
Save that not everyday talk for later
In long term opioids will make you more anxious too
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Simon Sonningbet - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 08:16:00 EST ID:jNlELYhU No.595092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595073
Serious op lol this is really dimwitted


PST/PPT General 8.0 - Rebirth? by Panda5 - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:26:45 EST ID:LkgjWjAj No.593023 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Discuss your floral arrangements here - please don't post to circlejerk. ♡
--~--

I just got a 5# of the most commonly-discussed brand (direct order & direct. It looked normal, didn't smell a whole lot, so I washed roughly 1/3# and holy Fuckistan.

Pic related, I used nearly 50/50 water/seeds (usually too much water so it generally comes out light), and it still came out dark orange after 20 sec of shaking. There was minimal taste but gott-dayumn I only drank half of that (gotta work the rest of the day) and I'm getting waves of sedation, heavy eyelids, and muscle relaxation 55 minutes later! Mind you, I've only had 3-5 bags in the last 6 months. I'll take a larger dose tonight and report back here.

The Poppypocalypse may have subsided?
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 17:56:47 EST ID:UUBMBJsL No.594979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Another 5# direct eSseN 1/15/19 t1r11098, very light blue seeds, comes out whitish and tasteless. 2/10, there's some vibe from 1.5 lbs but the switch In product from last month makes me sad.
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Reuben Willerpodge - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:22:29 EST ID:tDpLqS6E No.595003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594905
you got oxys in the uk??
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Molly Tootville - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:58:13 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595003
Seems to me they do, although their shit NHS compared to our real universal HC up norf does not cover it. Their med insurance is so restrictive and even if you're ready to pay up, an NHS doc willl rarely script oxycontins, they'll go with DHC Continus 120 if you're in bad shape, which I had sent by mail by a friend over there, fun stuff to crush and eat two or three of.
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Walter Honderwutch - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:47:13 EST ID:jNlELYhU No.595008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595005
No we get it all on the NHS and at tops pay 8 quid for the prescription
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Phineas Sacklebire - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 06:16:13 EST ID:cmST1IBm No.595091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594956
>buying baking supplies on the dark net
for what purpose


fuck this stupid crackdown by Fuck Gallerdudge - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 22:32:19 EST ID:NVDL4q8W No.595017 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>tfw with the pill crack down oxy will all but disappear and we will be left with fent presses
>literally have to have terminal cancer just to get a script

dark days ahead boys
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Charlotte Barringstock - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:01:18 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595071
Yeah or at least a medium methadone dose is better than nothing. Especially if you have some real pain issues. Never go higher than 60mg a day is my extra tip to you. Getting to having a 6 pack of methadone takehomes in the fridge took me 7 months but the other year I was taking it, it was a very reassuring presence and I could get high with something else in case I found something in the morning and push drinking my dose later on.

Would've stayed on it if it didn't make me gain 100 pounds, it makes you crave carbs like mad, for a lot of people anyway. Cereal and caramel sandwiches all day..but I couldn't help it. 5 years later of bupe and I lost just 30 pounds, but before I got to the ORT clinic, I was underweight, I had to hold my jeans when walking since I spent all my money on Dillies 4/8 and HM Contins 30's.
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Beatrice Goodville - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 01:06:45 EST ID:j9sWho8J No.595077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595070
sometimes i dream about moving to canada... i guess the weather isnt too bad if you can keep warm with hm-contins?
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Hillbilly Heroin !JhIhjqOq5k - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:22:49 EST ID:CeSbtG40 No.595082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595067
>not in most of the usa, atm.
That's not really the case. While various gov't agencies have been cracking down and putting pressure on Drs not to write so many scripts and in a lot of ways bullied them into chronically underprescribing you can still very much get a script. It isn't as easy by any means as it was when I first got put on PM a decade ago but if you have real, verifiable pain you will get something.

The number of people who get decent amounts of both a baseline and breakthrough med far exceeds those who only get 60-120 IR hydros or oxys a month. It might take a minute and you will have to work your way up and play the game a bit you will still get an, at least fairly decent, script. You will likely be underprescribed for a while but, assuming you get a good doc, after developing trust and a relationship with your doctor you are pretty likely to get your pain taken care of.

Stricter regulations have been put in place but no where near the extent you are talking about and I keep fairly up to date on this stuff since it has a pretty big impact on me and so does my PM doc.

Sure, its much harder to walk into the ER and get opis or get your GP to just rattle you off a script of roxies but you make it sound like no one gets anything better than trams or hydros unless you are terminal which couldn't be further from the truth. I'm certainly more alive than dead and I get way more than that.

Its not as nice as it used to be but I still get treated and can keep my pain to a 3-4 on good days which, once I found a stable dose years ago is about par for the course. The only major difference that has happened recently is they stopped letting me get two breakthrough meds and don't want docs prescribing fent off label but all that meant was they removed one of my BT meds and doubled the other so there was no huge difference other than it looking better on paper. I do think it is stupid though and having half the amount of two different BT meds makes much more sense than one double the size of a single med because some BT pain is worse than others. It was great to have something to take for mild breakthrough and something else for severe breakthrough so I …
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Beatrice Goodville - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 05:23:44 EST ID:j9sWho8J No.595089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595082
Thats contrary to my experience and experiences of at least a dozen people i met at doctors offices while playing the game for years and being bedridden and getting hugs from nurses and doctors because they pitied my situation (of real verifiable debilitating somatic pain). To be fair I did eventually get a pm dr who was at least somewhat willing but they found my insurance wouldnt pay for pain doctor and I sure as hell could not afford it after being out of work for years (before bitcoins=$$$). And that was the at least 4th different PM place i went to, the other ones said sorry, or here's gabapentin muscle relaxers and benzos (far worse habit and almost totally useless other than muscle relaxation which fades after a month or 2 or regular use) they work great, or my favorite, take catabolic steroids, which could have killed 92lb me (or at least made me 100% bedridden), i later realized after learning more about my condition.
what new prescriptions have you or trusted friend got for what ailments in the last 5 years? or you've just been on pm for 10 years straight?
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Charlotte Barringstock - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 05:29:41 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595082
Yeah, you gave the picture I wanted to give, but I was waiting for an actual american to speak up. I only have 2 american friends who had opi scripts for an acute situation, the Vicoprofens or something awful like the guy with no lower leg or foot anymore on MS-IR 30's with I think Kadian 100mg underneath, I think last time I spoke with him, he's from WA, he said I'm so high, I shot half my day's worth of MS-IR's....man....just shooting up 50mg of morphine IR through Statex pills would at first startle me so much when it would kick in, I thought I was gonna OD...then it settled down nicely, the rush isn't as amazing as hydromorph but it's so much more rewarding for those 4-6 hours. Most of my IR morphine was with Statex 25's and 50's, which you don't have don't south, a tragedy, only MS-IR is my understanding....those demand good filtlers like SteriFilts if you value your health. Which the functional junkie I was (I stopped because I had run out of places to register, and I already have "rolling" veins naturally according to nurses who often fucking fail at taking blood from me for routine bloodwork.

Best place was the top of one of my hands, like in between the middle finger and the auricular, I have, after almost 7 years of no regular shooting-up, a big bursting vein coming out there and I was using it so much, even with prescription Vitamin E cream, my use of injection kits with all the good stuff in them and almost no re-use of needles, it wasn't infected, but it developed a thick reddish wound looking thing where I could continue to register successfully until I couldn't....and after trying the belt around the arm thing etc...nah. Fucking veins how do they work? Mine, like my dad told me he experienced the same whenever having to have bloodwork, are so hard to find.

The best times was when I would try in my forearm's pit and as usual it failed even using the best technique possible and randomly it would register, and register so much, blood was flowing out like crazy and the shot of D mixed with M felt so much better than through my hand, although that could be psychological.


H for the first time by Hannah Cishlock - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 03:44:46 EST ID:PA97SThL No.595084 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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reading the horror stories of people who have lost their lives to heroin doesn't seem to put me off buying my first bag and taking the plunge
last year I had a 120mg/day oxy habit I had to kick because my supply ran out
as of today, I'm about five months clean of opiates but I'm also at a point in my life where, being a freindless college dropout NEET, I don't have much to lose
I'm certain that I will end up IVing because by mainlining a steady supply of dis, I think I developed some kind of needle fetish
I can see that it won't end well but nothing else can scratch the itch
I just want to crawl into bed and waste the days away

I'm about to confirm an order on the DN, should I try and talk myself out of it or embrace hedonism and cave into indulgence?
how does H compare to oxy anyway?
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Emma Barddock - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 04:52:40 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.595086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595084
>I'm about five months clean of opiates but I'm also at a point in my life where, being a freindless college dropout NEET, I don't have much to lose

Yes you do: the willingness and ability to improve your situation as well as any and all money you still have left.
There are few shitty situations that can't be made shittier with an IV heroin habit.
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Emma Barddock - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 04:56:31 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.595087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595086
Oh, and your youth. You can still enjoy opiates when you're old, other things not so much.


good times by Priscilla Blythegold - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 02:49:53 EST ID:NVDL4q8W No.594986 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what years were the best for opiod pill addicts?
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Molly Tootville - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:21:33 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594986
The british when they could get Diconal, Dipipanone, Desperimidine (sic) and all those fun synthetics, some mixed with large doses of cyclizine already to prevent the sickness.

There's all kind of periods though. When Levo-Dromoran was still available, levorphanol, shooting up that stuff was amazing. It's still available but used so rarely (mostly on people alllergic to morphine and who don't react well to Demerol/Talwin shots).

As for me, if my body allowed it, it could be as great as it ever was, 4 and 8mg Dillies, generic crushable canadian oxycontins everywhere, OxyIR's, HydromorphContins 18,24,30's, M-Eslons 200mg...I see all of my friends into opis who aren't on bupe or methadone having a great time....they haven't hit a no-job wall, but they're all also college educated and working at the aluminum factory in town, lucky fuckers, they pick random applications since they get so many and 3 of 'em got picked.
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Betsy Fidgeville - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 23:59:17 EST ID:fuC1j/Vn No.595020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I started using around 2005 as my friend in HS's father would trade me generic gelling oc40s for the shitty mid I sold. But after I got to college (2007) things were amazing with the pill mills. I drove out of state and would send a ton of my friends to go to the clinic (by supplying some bud and a free trip to the beach) That went well until 2010 when the clinic got shut down, all my boys went to prison, and the anti pill mill bill passed. Got clean from everything major back in 2012, still dabble, but it thankfully will never be as good as it was
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Isabella Caddlegold - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 02:50:18 EST ID:usqOkTyk No.595029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594986
like the whole 19th century
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Esther Dengerwell - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:55:17 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595020
Those strange generic oxycontins you had in the US are not like those we got when the patent expired in Canada. Here they are all like the old CDN's/OC's. Except for the PMS-Oxycodone CR, those are really bulky, but I don't care, never was a moron who snorted oxy or shooted it. I only shot in those rare times I got morphine and Dilaudid before the whole cunt PM of Ontario went on an anti-oxycontin crusade and we ended up with OxyNeo. Anyway, most docs who really know their patients will script them the generics....often the generic brand is not your choice, like there's a couple brands I never saw, such as the Sandoz-Oxycodone CR's and the Novo-Oxycodone CR's. But I saw and used all the others when I could still use (when on methadone and waiting in the morning and not taking from my 6 pack of takehomes and order something in the afternoon. It would work at about 75% of how it used to.

All of this because that cunt went after Oxycontin. Back then a couple 10mg, a 15 or 20 was good enough. OxyIRs? Everyone were hoarding 'em, so all I could get was D's, which were great, I reacted great to them snorting, but I was bombarded with ideas of shooting it by people on BL of all places, as the rush is better than heroin!

I believe it is, fucking opicrack yellow's and white triangles from heavenhell.
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Samuel Nuttingpedging - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 20:39:01 EST ID:ThMC9U4b No.595066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594986
When the ORIGINAL Oxy 80's were around.
I got them basically at the tail end of their existence in the U.S and it was the BEST time I had doing opiates.
God my tolerance was so low then.
I remember my buddy and me putting our money together just to buy one pill and split it down the middle, doing lines and playing guitar.
Lmao, I remember one night after we did a couple of lines, I sat down to do another one and it took me legit 5 minutes to finish railing one line....I knew I was fucked up.
I just stood up, looked at my buddy and barely got the words out:
>I wanna go home
he gave me a "I understand completely" nod because he probably couldn't even talk either, and we parted ways without saying anything else.
MAN I miss those days


PSA: Addiction isnt a disease by Martin Nickleridge - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 01:42:12 EST ID:YRdjFYyW No.594680 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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There’s this huge epidemic where I’m from. You’re probably familiar with it, it’s probably happening around you too. A guy I’ve known since I was 5 just died last week, isn’t surprising, I hear of stuff like this all the time. I saw another guy last weekend that just did 50 days in rehab following a period of robbing his family and friends for crack and heroin money.

Seems like every junkie I talk to says that addiction is a disease, relapse is a part of recovery. This seems like such a bad approach.

Let me give you an example: There’s a girl I know that has relapsed like 5 or 6 times, been doing dope since she was 15 or so. Her first boyfriend died and she still does it. Than her baby daddy dies. Now she’s supposedly been clean for a few years, but I just saw on Facebook she overdosed and was in the hospital. Now, this entire time, this girls been saying “addiction is a disease, relapse is a part of recovery!” Now, that’s just giving her an excuse to relapse, isn’t it?

Another thing: you choose to do heroin, you don’t choose to get Down syndrome. They’re both diseases. Addiction is the only disease you actively choose to have.

Drug addiction is not a disease. You can’t convince me that it is. I understand there’s bad conditions that cause it sometimes, such as a doctor over prescribing pills leading to addiction. But most of the time that isn’t the case, and your veins never shot up themselves and and the pipe of crack didn’t smoke itself.

To me this just seems like an easy cop out and is a small microcosm of what’s wrong with society. It’s lack of personal responsibility.

Remember that guy I was talking about that was in rehab for 50 days? I saw him apologizing to a woman he stole a lot of money from. “It wasn’t me, it was the drugs! I promise I’m not like that, drugs made me do it”

Guess he didn’t learn anything from rehab. Instead of taking responsibility and truly apologizing, he blamed an inanimate object. It’s just like the anti gun people who blame guns for mass shooting, but that’s an argument for elsewhere.
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Isabella Caddlegold - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:03:26 EST ID:usqOkTyk No.595050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595036
how do you plan ahead for some unknown heart condition or whatever?
>having a pre-existing heart condition, sometimes one not detectable by EKG
supposedly 1 in 300, if done right with hcl extract and not with some funky tribe that will rape you and steal your wallet while tripping then feed you to a puma.
>https://www.odt.co.nz/news/dunedin/international-interest-ibogaine-study
>Overall, half the participants in the study were expected to remain opioid free at 12 months.
nice. I'm sure your child beaten into submission with be part of the good 50%
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Caroline Brissledut - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:31:50 EST ID:BIw8r887 No.595052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Addiction may not be a disease but withdrawal is.
I actually do think addiction is a disease though or maybe more like a symptom of some over mental issue you have
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Isabella Trotford - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 15:59:07 EST ID:jNlELYhU No.595053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595050
Heart conditions are hardly discreet......
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Oliver Babbleway - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:35:44 EST ID:F745cIwW No.595055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
While we don't have a medical model to classify addiction as a disease, it does fit the bill of a psychological disease.
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Esther Dengerwell - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 19:56:29 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595053
Many are. Mitral valve prolapse, congestive heart failure, other obscure ones.....my brother was born with...something they checked on him until he was 4-5 then he was just fine, I'm not sure what the name for it is. But if the hole didn't close up, he would've been in trouble his whole life.


need you to search 1000 pepes for my lost heroin pepe by Hamilton Hollerhat - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 14:04:15 EST ID:X+9IZu8l No.594972 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I need help finding a heroin pepe

this is vital to me. it is not pic related. it cannot be found on google.

there is a public folder which is belongs to somebody that I found on google. I steal all my pepes from here. this is the worst crime I have ever committed.

the pepe in question is one where pepe is submerged in heroin and there is a needle floating around nearby, he doesn't look too happy but I can tell that he is

please search this archive and find my heroin pepe. I downloaded it but accidentally deleted it. you can keep any other pepes that you find, just do not tell anyone about this

>http://zaloopa.slonique.net/pepe/
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George Cluffingshit - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 18:42:17 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.594981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594974
why be a frogposting faggot?

The thing lost its funnehs when it escaped /weed/ with the classic "feels good man" from the actual original comic.
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Isabella Caddlegold - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 05:09:32 EST ID:usqOkTyk No.595031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the 3rd or 4th one i clicked on. i dunno if trying to be cute or dumb or dumb troll but can batch dl all and scroll through them, should take 10-20minutes
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Phyllis Clengerdark - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 06:06:05 EST ID:X+9IZu8l No.595033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594981
>funnehs

>>595031
in all honesty can you please do this, because I don't know how. that is a good heroin frog but it is not the one. it is as I described. if you want to serve your country, the time is now to find the heroin pepe.
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Esther Dengerwell - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 09:38:53 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.595040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595033
Yeah, funnehs. As in it was never that great a meme. It's Advice Dog level.
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Isabella Trotford - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 10:39:01 EST ID:jNlELYhU No.595044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595040
Apparently it's not according to the internet


How come I can rarely tough out a day without suboxone even with benz and hydroxyzine etc. by Phineas Buzzridge - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:41:31 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.594807 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Only fuckin Ontario is like the US when it comes to Suboxone here, everywhere else, it's like methadone, best situation, like mine, you get to take a supervised dose one day a week and leave with 6 days of takehomes. Tuesdays are my refill days, some mondays I manage to still have a quarter of a 8mg or even a half, but I'm tapering down and underdosing myself on purpose since a while now, it takes forever compared to 'done, I should have continued with the 2-3mg monthly reduction of that back then, was down to 39mg.

Anyway, today is kind of hell and my last dose was at 11:30pm last night, had half a 8mg, so 4mg. And after trying to sleep it away for most of the time, I'm feeling fuckin cold and I produce mucus like if I was in epic withdrawal, although no goosebumps and the worst things imaginable most of us know. Just a sinus kind of headache although I just got out from a pretty insane flu that almost killed 2 other people in the house (barely kidding).

I hurt everywhere. It's like this routine where I know monday will be awful and I just have to deal with it until tuesday morning at 8 am when the fuckers open shop. One more proof sub shouldn't be used for long term maintenance and just 3 month detoxes. Unless something's really strange with me.
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Sophie Cengerherk - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:56:30 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.594835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594822
Ceiling dose is surely not the same for everybody, I imagine they figure it out using median weight and height and fat % in studies, where the normal patient will not only fit those parameters necessarily, they wil not be under study like the people who did the last phases of bupe testing to get it approved. Personally I find that 12mg (where I started after 48 hours without methadone, last 7 doses were 39mg) is my ceiling, there's a definite difference between 8 and having an 8 and a 10 for me, especially with atarax taken previously.

Thank god this bullshit's over anyway, actually managed to fall asleep at 4 something AM when my s/o woke me up...I'm actually surprised I managed falling asleep. Now I have dosed and I'll give my s/o one 8mg to hide somewhere to keep for monday so I don't go and take 10-12 to get an actual nod, the whole nod chasing is the problem.

It's so random as to its occurrence, the bupe nod, that usually means atarax or histantil (prometh 50mg pills) with a good dose of benzos and even then it's not guaranteed you'll get it.
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Sophie Cengerherk - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 09:00:15 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.594836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594825
Also, the exact same thing happened last year (or so) regarding your pic. Ball and chained to those who think god is a real estate agent. nb.
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Reuben Turveyhall - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:49:10 EST ID:usqOkTyk No.594850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594829
>Your body doesn't get used to the doses stacking exactly, it just builds up and reaches a steady state which gives you a sort of "buffer"
what does that mean? how is that different?

>reaches a steady state with consistent dosing.
relatively steady but ever slightly enough to feel different, at least until years of tolerance

ceiling idea is misleading, because even if youre on 32mg/day, it feels much more than whatever 2-3% 16->32mg gives you. It's true for dopesickness but not for the mental feeling/high of sub. I'm not exactly sure why but something to do with your brain getting used to coming up on the drug all the time, ie when you get addicted to the needle
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Nigel Drucklefoot - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 20:14:23 EST ID:MYWQpqEQ No.594855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594850
>>594829

>Your body doesn't get used to the doses stacking exactly, it just builds up and reaches a steady state which gives you a sort of "buffer"

>what does that mean? how is that different?

Yeah, Cedric's slightly confusing here.
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Priscilla Cunkinhit - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 22:40:45 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.595018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594850
>Your body doesn't get used to the doses stacking exactly, it just builds up and reaches a steady state which gives you a sort of "buffer"

>what does that mean? how is that different?

I'm pretty sure it means I was a bit drunk and misinterpreted what was meant by "your body gets used to it".
The poster was totally right that your body will get used to whatever level of bupe the steady state reaches rather than the amount which is dosed daily. Assuming the minimum half life of 24 hours you have basically twice your daily dose in your system after dosing so yeah, it's very significant.

>>594850
>ceiling idea is misleading, because even if youre on 32mg/day, it feels much more than whatever 2-3% 16->32mg gives you.

Yeah, um, actually you're right. What I said initially is how it works in theory, and that does seem to work for people on lower doses (some people are dosed at the pharmacy every second day and it works fine for them.
However, yeah, when I was on 32mg of bupe I did notice some discomfort even when dropping to 28mg as well as the subsequent reductions. No real dopesickness but definite mental effects and loss of energy etc. No idea why or how I somehow forgot my own lived experience over the theoretical one.

So apart from the all the bits that were totally wrong, the rest is all true probably


Suboxone ROA by Thomas Dacklestock - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 19:00:51 EST ID:Fh+FNq3j No.595009 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What will give me the most bang for my buck with suboxone? I think I've read that snorting has a higher BA than sublingual? Apparently some people have shot it and it still works and negates the naloxone somehow? I've been taking it for a couple weeks now and find that it works great for staving off w/ds and has a mild high to it as well but tends to run out by the evening and unless I drink and smoke weed I start getting depressed(usually masked by opiates for me). Also interested in hearing people's experiences with this drug in general.
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Thomas Dacklestock - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 19:03:53 EST ID:Fh+FNq3j No.595010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also interested in hearing more about precipitated withdrawal and how suboxone apparently takes precedence on your receptors and makes it impossible to get high off other opis? If I were to smoke some H at night then take the sub the next day will I go into w/d?
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Fuck Blackshaw - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 21:40:28 EST ID:aDrqbXrx No.595014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>595009
> If I were to smoke some H at night then take the sub the next day will I go into w/d?
Yes
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Priscilla Cunkinhit - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 21:59:09 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.595015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>595009
Nasal works but it's not a much higher BA than sublingual, probably quicker onset though. You can increase the sublingual BA by using an alcoholic mouthwash or swishing spirits around your mouth briefly to dilate blood vessels before dosing the subs.
If you have strips and need to make a solution to put up your nose it's very easy to just end up swallowing it (unless using a spray bottle), which has an awful BA. Plugging it is pretty effective. You can inject it and the bupe will out-compete the naloxone for receptors. It's the same story as snorting it, after all there is naloxone nasal spray available so it's not like you wouldn't absorb any naloxone through your nose. Be warned though, many people says subs are particularly hard on the veins.

>>595014
I mean, very likely but it's not quite that simple. It all comes down to equivalency. If you take an amount of bupe that will keep you well you might experience PWD briefly but once the bupe is in full effect you won't be in withdrawals.
Some people say they experience a brief period of PWD (30mins or so) and then they're fine. My experience with taking it the day after PST was that I just went from being high on PST to being high on bupe.
Obviously if you take a low dose or the amount of opiates you need to stay out of withdrawals is greater than the ceiling dose for bupe then you will get PWD.

I obviously can't guarantee that you won't get PWD, but the theory is sound and I've never experienced PWD this way. If you have enough bupe you can just take more until you're no longer in withdrawals.

>>595010
> suboxone apparently takes precedence on your receptors and makes it impossible to get high off other opis?

Pretty much. The blocking effect is dose dependent and you can get around it by dosing massive amounts of another opioid. This is a bad idea though as it's very wasteful, you may nod but the euphoria is still reduced and it's probably not super safe either.


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