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combo ratios by Nigel Diblingbot - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 13:10:41 EST ID:Bs603HPw No.588203 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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if I had only say, 5mg of hydro, how much DXM should I take to potentiate that low of a dose? is it even worth it?
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Polly Drobblenedge - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 17:16:31 EST ID:tZTzSXSO No.588280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How do S+ isomer K and codeine mix?
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Oliver Caffingstet - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:46:57 EST ID:p0QjXfvg No.588291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For me even with tolerance low to feel good with hydro I need 1 or 2 flexeril 2 25 mg benadryls and 5 7.5 hydros
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 21:03:45 EST ID:gp7QCKjk No.588294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588280
probably very very well so long as you shoot for a sub hole dose
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Betsy Bennershit - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 12:15:44 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.588328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588280
s-ket and codeine probably chill, if you hole the codine will probably make it peaches and cream instead of the heck that can sometimes be a hole. ime s-ket is the dopier parts of ket so should be fun
ever try r-ket? yikes.....
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Jack Pockson - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:16:24 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588235
which enzymes though? if you're clogging the enzyme that turns it into hydromorphone, you're just shooting yourself in the foot.

yes you can get something out of messing with enzymes but nothing that will make 5mg of hydro anything more than 5mg of hydro. you can also screw yourself with enzymes so look that shit up first cause it's different for almost every drug. what's good for morphine can be bad for codeine or have no effect on oxy (i'm just talking hypothetically right here I don't remember how it all actually shakes out).


Plug by Simon Tillingbury - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 06:11:12 EST ID:p0QjXfvg No.588134 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How did you find your dealer? I'm starting to feel sickness creeping up on me now. The only guy I know sells really shitty dope and lives far away from me. I have always just gone through one friend and he's moved away now. So I don't know what the fuck to do.
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John Dorringsudge - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:14:15 EST ID:7mYTYJ8p No.588154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588137
I wish my dope was cut with fent. Fent cut dope is a better rush from experience. The tar is unfortunately never cut with fent
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John Dorringsudge - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:20:58 EST ID:7mYTYJ8p No.588155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588154
If I can I will actually buy the fake 215s that are pressed for this reason
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 05:37:39 EST ID:8Gks/2Y/ No.588198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Through my dope using sista.

She ripped him off so he's my plug now. Dudes a chill fat white guy who drives a truck and has the best strongest dope ever. He can be slow at times but he come thru always and it's worth the wait. Amazing plug. 9.9/10 (.1 off for being annoyingly long to get to me at times).
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Hugh Ferrywell - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 18:45:52 EST ID:qG9OMlPx No.588284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588134
where do you live
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Oliver Caffingstet - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:48:36 EST ID:p0QjXfvg No.588292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588284
I'm not trying to source here but South West USA (biggest city) outside of any in Texas


Addiction and Love. by Fucking Tillingdale - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:45:35 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.588220 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Used to frequent here a lot as a tripfag here and although I know likely no one if any will heed this advice I feel I must share. I’ve seen others here beg others to realize this. Love of a person will always beat the love of the opi. For years I read that here and said bs as I had picked it over countless gfs that at the time broke my heart and made my subsequent use worse. Now I’ve gone and fucking done. The woman I really love is leaving me. You know that feeling where you feel so helpless and sick yet you can’t do anything at all you are in WD so bad? That’s me right now but I’m not close to WD. I should be at bliss but all I want to do is cry. We’ve both had the our problems but I swear to Morpheus herself that I would never abuse this shit ever again EVER if I could have her back. Now of course I’m not saying this to her because I know how it’ll make me look.

Anyway back to the point if you find yourself stuck in any situation like this PLEASE choose love. You can love drugs but they can’t love you like a woman/man does. Like I said I used to frequent with a trip but disappeared around summer when I tried to quit. I had a relapse but only lurked since I came back out of embarrassment of failing to break away from my habits. Now I’m much deeper in but like I said the impending physical WD is worrying me absolutely nothing.

I saw someone mention here a week or two ago how they chose dope over the girl. Well I did too many times even when I thought so was in love but just a helpless addict. No truth is no I’m in love, or was rather and have a broken heart that no amount of dope can fix like it had in the passed. To the guy who said he picks dope first if you are reading this I understand I do just PLEASE take heed before it’s too late. True love trumps all. Dr. Mario if you are reading this just wanted to say 2 things. 1 on the subject of my thread please don’t mess things up with your wife. You know your relationship better than anyone here obviously but overtime I’ve seen you mention a few tumultuous times and others say similar things to you. I’m not trying too be preachy or telling you to quit I just don’t someone I grew closer to here or anyone at all for that matter to have to feel how I do now.…
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Fucking Tillingdale - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:12:49 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.588225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588222
I would’ve disagreed until put in this situation. Worse than any WD.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:33:43 EST ID:8jokqkrn No.588254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588220
wow such a great excellent post. agree so hard with pretty much all your points. Ive just fully quit buprenorphine maintenance myself and am working on fully quitting benzo on a taper which is pretty easy for me to put down and 3-ho-pcp which has some opi feels (mu and kappa agonism) and some dis feels (strong nmda antagonism), but im gradually reducing and tapering from that as well and feeling great and doing well all as a result of my choice to just decide to quit and not need it. also in pursuit, slowly of a lady whom im interested in seeking a romantic relationship with whos a clean previous addict as well who i also think is interested.

so tldr great post, very relate-able, and im feeling like im getting to a point of being in a similar position.

nb cause ive made a bunch of posts in other threads already in a short time and dont want to seem annoying
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:04:20 EST ID:9jOKWOE0 No.588263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588220

I needed this more than you ever know. Thank you.

It definitely gets better, but it never goes away.

She told me to choose recently. The PAWS was so severe she was worried I would never be happy again. She lives to make me happy, whether I like it or not. Not to be melodramatic, but it felt like being one of those cursed pirates from the first Pirates of the Caribbean. Nothing else seems to satisfy. I'm sure OP and others can relate.

I live for others and for my future self now. It's the only way to rationally deal with this issue. There's a debt I borrowed from my future self that has to be paid. A large part of that debt was paid by confining myself and WDing over and over.

Many people say cliche phrases, such as "I would take a bullet for her." I believe that I would.

Would you stop using for her though?

When you're willing to take a bullet for someone, yet unwilling to get completely clean, what does that say about the state of rationality in one's brain?
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James Hobblebanks - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:54:00 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.588267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588263
>>588254
Thanks Q and Dr. M. As depressing as this place can be sometimes I think this is why I always came here. To see posts like these and feel just a little bit less alone. Just as you mention Dr. that no one understands the gravity of it all. Also very glad to hear you are doing better too Q and hope everything works out with your lady friend. You are on the right path. Also I don't think that's being melodramatic when it comes to real love. I would never have even thought about taking a bullet in the past when I was suffering from a breakup. I could always use more and just say fuck it. Not this time. I really would take a bullet and really would quit. And I really like and agree with this:

>Love of a person will NOT always beat the love of the opi, but it SHOULD!


She hasn't actually said anything to me yet but the way shes been acting I'm nearly positive. Anyway I'll keep you guys posted. Thank you for the kind words guys. You guys don't know it but you've been like a family to me.

>I see you OP. I hope you saw one of my old BWN messages.
I probably have. I used to post here daily then started lurking daily after my relapse. Do you know what it had to do with?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 11:07:51 EST ID:B8hqdvN2 No.588268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588267
no problem and thanks for the great posts. opi seems to be moving pretty fast this morning with all of us on here talking about positive things. so fuck yah for all of that


Novice questions. by Barnaby Crazzleforth - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:27:02 EST ID:0Mjb1nO6 No.587929 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I have 15 10 mg/mL Morphine Sulfate injections. The box says they expired in April 2012. As an absolute novice user, 6' 280lbs, who can't (won't(lol pussy)) inject, is cracking these open and taking them orally worthwhile? How much should someone like me take?

Bonus question, same premise. I also have 15 Oxycocet (100's) filled in 1998. 19 years, still good to go? Again, how much to take if they haven't degraded beyond use. The pills themselves look in good condition.
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Frederick Fadgedet - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:30:41 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.588243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588216
>I think pretending that addiction is not a plausible and serious risk of recreational opiate use is about as delusional as it gets

Sure it's a risk, but it's hardly a secret or hidden one. The question isn't whether it's possible for a mentally healthy person who generally has a decent life to get addicted to opis, it's whether it's likely or common. Acting like opiates are instantly addictive is exactly the kind of thing that makes people overconfident and fall into the trap. They try opiates once or twice and it's fine so they start to push their luck.
I know this isn't a meaningful sample, but I know heaps of people who've tried opis recreationally and I'm the only one I know who got addicted.

>it is for the people who aren't on an opiate message board 5 hours a day,

Wait, so you're saying that prior to using opiate message boards you had no idea that opiates could be addictive?
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Emma Greenbanks - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 04:56:48 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.588244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588243
Not OP, but prior to drug forums I was unaware that opiates are a separate case of addiction where you get sick when you don't have. I know other drugs have effects that mimick it, but we always learned in school that 'addictive' is a case that applies to all drugs and they basically take over your brain. Now I know that opiates have a special grasp due to sickness, vs any upper. I also didn't know the dosage/tolerance curve was so extreme, which lends a new insight into how addiction is so much more expensive than chipping or moderate usage.
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Frederick Fadgedet - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 05:08:27 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.588247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588244
Fair enough, I guess drug education is better in some places than others.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:44:46 EST ID:8jokqkrn No.588261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588244
benzos like xanax or barbs also cause a physical sickness if stopped suddenly just like opis just so you know.
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Jack Pockson - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:49:38 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588243
what are you even arguing, that it shouldn't be brought up because everyone already knows it? guess what, "everyone" doesn't know shit about anything. people know what they know and I'm not going to pretend that the ins and out of a long term opiate addiction are common knowledge, just to what? save someone from reading something they already know? oh the horror. wont anyone think of these poor dope heads who are forced to read image board posts? come on man.

>>it is for the people who aren't on an opiate message board 5 hours a day,
>Wait, so you're saying that prior to using opiate message boards you had no idea that opiates could be addictive?

no I'm obviously not saying that (so much for reading comments in good faith, lol). I'm saying the comments about addiction aren't for the people who hang out here and already know all this shit (aka the people bitching about said comments for some reason), they're for people like OP who don't have experience with opiates and might not fully realize what they're getting into.

>>588244
that's not how drug addiction works at all, every drug has its own potential addiction risks and symptoms and whatnot. uppers have their own shit, benzos have their own shit, amps have their own shit, coke has its own shit, even non-rec stuff like antidepressants can have their own dependence/withdrawal syndromes. outside of broad categories (like gaba-erics, opiates, ampthetamines, coke, ect.) based on how the drug works, they're relatively distinct and have their own withdrawal symptoms. You can withdraw from multiple drug classes at once. Benzos/booze can actually kill you (seizures). also when I say addiction in this context I am talking about physical/chemical dependence, not psychological dependence.


norco dosage question by Jenny Claybury - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 15:16:17 EST ID:ZZpGXav1 No.588209 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My ex girlfriend is about to give me 20 norco 5mg pills. I'm curious how many i should take to get high.. in the past i've taken vicodin and norco but it took like 12 to get me high. i seem to have a naturally high tolerance to opiates but no actual tolerance. i'm 160 lb. thanks
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Cedric Sevingleck - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:14:59 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.588212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588209
Im reading it's equal in strength to morphine but has higher bioavaliability.
So i'd say go all in kid.
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Augustus Beffingbanks - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:19:21 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588212
it is lower strength than morphine but taken orally they are about equipotent because oral morphine has shit BA

I don't know how to advise you OP but if you know how many mgs you took last time it seems pretty simple. I'd recommend a lower dose honestly but I know some people need more than a normal person.
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Jack Clozzlehet - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:21:56 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.588229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588214
He's got like 100 mg that's nothing and he says he's got tolerance.
If you dose well and smoke some weed you have for a great evening with that.


Kratom and milk by Unknown - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:01:33 EST ID:2BcZvASq No.588079 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have been using kratom for about a year straight. I stuck to one 5 gram cup in the morning (give or take a little) for a long time. Every once in awhile i would have a second cup at night. Well, eventually i started to get zero effects from the kratom and began dosing 2 and 3 time a day, sometimes 4 times!!! At first i stuck to 5 grams, but i had like 2 or 3, 5 gram cups a day, and it began to make life really suck. I never felt it and if anything it gave me a disassociated feeling coupled with numbing depression. Partly, because of a batch of kratom i got had zero stimulant effect and zero opiate effects literally just made me feel super spacey. I found a head shop that some, actually really good kratom. I purchased there for a little while cause i didnt want to wait for a package. The price there was the same as online just with the shipping added into the price basically. Even after switching strains kratom seriously was not working. So, I ordered a batch online hoping to get something new and good. Which brings me to my question for you all. This kratom is more on the side of energetic opiate feeling but it only worked one good time when i potentiated it with black pepper. I swallowed the pepper with milk to mask the capsasin. The next day i did it again and once again felt nothing but relief from the mild kratom W/D. Yesterday i began tapering, only doing 10 grams instead 15 or 20 and working my way down from day to day from there. We had nothing to drink this morning so while i waited for my coffee to brew I drank a good size glass of milk( i normally dont do that), made coffee and drank about 5 1/2 gram cup, one hour later the effects are more intense than usual, before you know im up playing Battlefield 1, ready to clean the house, and get some shit done. Does milk potentiate kratom?!!
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 12:22:18 EST ID:9jOKWOE0 No.588202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>5881175

00 caps 4 lyfe

cap machine or go home

nb
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Augustus Beffingbanks - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 18:07:33 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so you guys just down 20+ pills every time you dose? how the hell do you keep all that around with you? it just doesn't seem at all practical to me, not to mention I don't want to drop another $20-30 on a capsule tray thing.

also 000>00 fite me irl
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:02:32 EST ID:8jokqkrn No.588251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588224
a cap machine that does 24 00 caps costs about $10 and most cap machines only take 00 unless you go out of your way to find or get a cap machine for 000 which will cost more. Yes i eat 20 or 50, 00 caps over the course of about 2 hours with a not thick but carbonated acidic beverage (think like the consistency of an energy drink like nos) so just find something like that which matches that description and dose ur pills over a couple hours and its really easy and NBD. Or even just use water if you rather but i find the carbonation helps with keeping it down. just ime, do w/e though man.
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Jack Pockson - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 07:55:32 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588251
I don't want to sound ungrateful but I already know how to fill and take pills (like i mentioned in my op in this thread). I was hoping for something more practical because I don't want to have to take a fuck ton of pills every 6 hours (or however long kratom lasts).

Are extracts not a common thing in the kratom community? I know most of the people on circlejerk act like anything other than pure leaf is "super dangerous/addictive" but I figured on a forum where people shoot suboxone in between their toes and use rain water to prep their shots, I could find some people who'd experimented a bit in that direction.

I can share my experience with simple iso washes but honestly I never bothered that much with it, would take a few (probably not enough) pills from the extract I made but it wouldn't get me out of w/ds so I lost interest. I didn't weigh my starting materials either so it was a pretty half assed effort all around.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:21:30 EST ID:9jOKWOE0 No.588379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588372

There were days where I would consume roughly 50 00 caps of kratom leaf and 50 00 caps of 11% Kavalactone Kava Kava root over the span of maybe 3 hours.

You're absolutely correct that it's a pain in the ass. This is why I rarely dose more than ~10-14g which is what fits in 24 00 caps that aren't 100% compact filled. If anything, since it never really gets me high anyways, it's useful to take roughly 7g and then the other 7g 4-6hr later.

Kratom is way too short in half life to be useful for full on dependency coverage. I've always just seen it as something you can take in the morning (such as a white or green vein) and again in the evening before bed (especially red veins). Maybe a smaller half dose in the afternoon too. Any more often than that and it'll take up half your day.

nb


revised morphine purification from seeds by roadrunner - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 12:18:23 EST ID:Rv9SREe3 No.588142 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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DISCLAIMER: I have very little experience in chemistry and I have not actually tried this method for myself (so i don't know if it actually works). I compiled this "tek" so to speak from reading some papers online as well as teks that have been posted by other users who are more knowledgeable than myself. I personally found many of those teks convoluted and conflicting in their processes so I decided to make my own and post it here to get feedback. So anyone with chem knowledge tell me if this will work or if there is anything I can improve.

>tl;dr read my revised tek and tell me if it's bullshit or good, also I know theres an influx in these types of posts recently but I think this is something that if properly refined could be worth our time.

Supplies
•Citric acid
•Ph strips
•CaOH
•Seeds
•Isopropyl alc
•Water
•Jug to mix seeds
•Jug for first precipitate (can be reused for second precip)(HDPE)
•Jug to hold first solution (HDPE)
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MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:20:47 EST ID:4UrMgpyV No.588169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
God dammit be nice!
nb
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roadrunner - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 18:42:41 EST ID:op5TG4Vs No.588170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588166
Yeah I’m sorry, this whole thing just kind of got me mad because if my ideas are as fucked up as you say it really takes a blow to my left esteem. I spent a lot of time reading stuff and talking to people online in an effort to understand the chemistry behind this and do it for myself. I finally thought I had something that would at least work ok. Now I’m finding out all my efforts were pointless and I just feel like an idiot.

I’m used to being able to grasp pretty anything I set my mind to and I like to think I’m smart. It’s never really happened to me where I researched stuff as much as I did for this and turned out to be wrong. Maybe I’m just autistic and that’s why I’m taking it so hard.

I just wish I could find a teacher of sorts to answer my questions in gross detail but I don’t think that’s very realistic.

If this sounds fucking insane it’s cause I’m really high and my friend is talking to be and playing music so it’s hard to put thought into this reply

Anyway sorry if I sounded mad, I’m just insecure about feeling stupid even if it’s only on the internet.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:47:40 EST ID:gp7QCKjk No.588172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588170
man its cool we're all good. i wasnt taking none of it personal and none of the profanity was directed at you just my general frustration that my guide has been so chopped re-edited so much thats its completely self-contradicting yet still has my name on it and is still being taken as fact at face value. so everythings cool between us.

just to give an idea of the time frames im talking about too, these replies take me like 5-20 minutes of typing max so it doesnt take any real out of my day. while typing up a reply thats something accurate and digestible with pics for people like you and the guy in the other thread whos asking for the same thing pretty much is going to take up like 4-8 hours of my time including running the whole process taking pics and typing up a reply like requested. So that should be able to happen this week or weekend but not tomorrow, wednesday, thursday afternoon or sometime friday is most likely when ill have time to do all this.

so watch this space, or more likely ill make a new thread and just use a title that people will catch and ill try to refer to you guys who are asking for this.

much love bropi fams. nothing at issue here and no more rage from anybodies. thanks for being chill and being patient.
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William Fuvingbit - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:28:48 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.588180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588170
Bro your tek isn't full stupid mode, you just threw out the wrong part of the extraction, right? I've made that mistake in lab once and I'm about to graduate with a BS in Chemistry, it can happen. I mixed up aq and org layers since the org was heavier in this extraction, you messed up pHs. It isn't entirely garbage, but with chemistry you know... one mistake can make your RESULT garbage.
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roadrunner - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:29:14 EST ID:Rv9SREe3 No.588201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588172
>>588180
thanks dudes ill be on the lookout

anyway I tried to make some regular tea with what I had, they are spanish seeds from a source p much nobody knows. The tea came out almost clear and had no bitterness, so they're likely bunk anyway.


Lets talk 3-HO-PCP by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 20:22:15 EST ID:AX5rUfAz No.587681 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hey guys. Im back, my 3-ho-pcp finally arrived via overnight airmail from china. Sidebar: these guys are fucking insane but they knew id been waiting for 3 weeks for my order because i placed it right before the Chinese National Congress which i did not realize at the time meant the ENTIRE FUCKING COUNTRY SHUT DOWN for the entire two week national congress so i had emailed them because this was already a week late because they lost my damn address the first time and had to email me to ask for it again but they promised to ship it extra fast. So once the national congress ended like the next hour they put my shit on a fedex next day air express delivery plane and bam here it is. Well yesterday afternoon i dove head first into my ten gram bag and now its 5 pm (PST) Friday.

To answer everybodys first question yes its dope as fuck. There is def opi feels and you can nod out and its also very dis and has a very deep hole.

so i guess idk AMA 3-HO-PCP.

initial dose 5 mg bump felt immediately very mild not caustic has an odor but is neutral. did another 15 mg and was feeling amazing very similar to a strong dose of 3-meo-pcp but with a decent dose but sub nod dose of like oxycodone and morphine combined. Excellent euphoria no uncomfortable physical side effects to speak of aside from urinary retention but ill touch on that later. So after doing that 20 mg i waited a few hours and then did a 20 mg IV and it has a veerry nice rush and doesn't cause that almost unpleasant instantly /dis/ feeling that make your skin kinda crawl when you iv 3-meo, mxe or other dis. Instead you get the rush minus any histamine and then it slowly melts into a stoned dis feeling. So fucking smooth. Very functional too after that I went to my NA meeting after that and it was fine. Went out to coffee with one of the guys like i do after every meeting and it was all good.

So i got home and instantly set about getting a shot ready. Before id left for NA id already boiled my rig (glass rig so i boil after each use) and my spoon so theyd be ready when i got home. The goal this time was to reach the hole, and oh boy did i. So i prepped 30 mg into hot water which dissolved easily added about .2 mg of flubromazolam (also great IVd) that was in PG solution. i filtered it up into my rig took my time to find a vein id be able to push FAST into, and once i had my spot i went for it. Perfect hit no issues at all pushed the whole 1 ML through the tiny fucking 30 GAs im using for now (note to self next time 27-29 only) so i get the final bit of of the shot in and im already feeling the amazing rush and im like shit gotta stash the needle and and rig so i pull the needle off real quick and look around and jam it into a grapefruit rind next to me id eaten earlier and hand the rig to my friend to put somewhere. The hole on this one is incredible and its somehow lucid enough you actually come back with memories similar to what you see in a k-hole or on 4th plat dxm. Just completely alien geometry in a space that is no space. My friend had the bright idea to record me as well and it turns out the hole is non-catatonic. In the video im seen doing a number of things mostly looking around me and starring in wonder at an object in my hand. but then at times in the videos i actually nod out while in the hole. you can see that there is a period of increased activity which is then followed by what looks like a typical person nodding out and these fluctuations of increased activity followed by nodding each were about 5 minutes in length and the total duration that i was that state was roughly 1.5 hours. I came out of the hole very slowly at first and at times id start nodding again as i was coming out but by about 4 hours later i had my faculties back i was still pretty blasted but was functional and at that point i went to sleep.

when i fell into the hole i felt could feel myself leaving. When i was at the furthest point from myself just before the hole i remember thinking this is it i died i did too much and then there was absolute nothingness followed instantly by everything, i was in a what all i can describe as an inverted 3 dimensional diamond in a room in space and i could see all of it. An entire universe-scape expanding out in every direction from where i was. I also have a memory of a presence being in that space with me but have no memory of it or anything else of it. Also as far as i could tell there was no sound.

3-HO-PCP AMA

also add any info you have if youve tried any of the 3-HO-PCX's
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:55:03 EST ID:gp7QCKjk No.588174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588062
i should have time to write up a reply with as many answers as i have and can give this week sometime around thursday or friday or maybe this weekend on saturday. just keeping people up to date on my time frames.
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Augustus Beffingbanks - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:28:41 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588174
it's all cool man, I don't expect anything from this place. God knows I've flaked on tons of stuff I've said I was gonna do here and there. Not that I'm saying you're flaking, just trying to say that you shouldn't feel obligated to give out time tables or apologies or anything and if you have the time to respond, awesome, and if not that's fine too.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 23:10:58 EST ID:gp7QCKjk No.588186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588179
cool good that takes shit off my plate lol. if/when this happens itll be lower on my priors list tho now. so thanks.
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Augustus Beffingbanks - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:33:47 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588186
damn, should have made this reply in a different post, lol. mostly joking, take your time.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 06:35:47 EST ID:8jokqkrn No.588255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588217
lol ok cool thanks everybody for reals. much love as usual.

nb


Are overdoses painful? by Nigel Fanningwill - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 13:54:25 EST ID:8AtjdLZ0 No.587210 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is a question I ask out of curiousity, not because I plan to kill myself or something: Is it painful to overdose on opiates, or do you just kind of pass out and stop breathing?
Personal experiences and theories are both welcome.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 20:01:40 EST ID:rn0Uvf4I No.588118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588115
there are obviously different types of overdoses. its not just black and fucking white so why you're responding that way to him is beyond my comprehension.

OP asked if they are painful, to which some said 'yes, they can be'. Not that its the only fucking way to overdose. I mean, jesus christ yeah it just might be possible that ROA can effect this along with the potency of the drug so it would clearly vary widely from painful, lungs filled with fluids to the instantaneous falling out from IVing a fent hotspot.

god damn faggot leddit users postin in ma /opi/ stop regurgitating what u fucking read as truth on there with nothing to back it up, no fucking wonder it filters to circle jerk its almost as if... nevermind. the amount of horse shit I read on there is astounding, people just parrot everything they fucking read like its the modern day gospel without thinking twice about fact checking when you are actually connected to the internet with the ability to CTRL+T and confirm it. tards gon tard tho. I mean everyone in here is right but somehow a select few felt compelled to be like nahhhh, it aint like that bro.

seriously though just use your fucking head for a minute guys, its not socket rience. I can't believe I had to type this twice. nb, u rustled my dongle and now my feels went all woopsies
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Eugene Greendock - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 21:04:08 EST ID:RviaXQER No.588121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588118
Why are you so heated? Calm down g thebaine is not a typical opiod and if you’re dumb enough to O.D off PST then yeah it might cause you to seize which is unpleasant.

Any opiod except for thebaine derivatives, codiene and analogues, and tramadol should be a pretty clean death. It’s more than likely the guy above who O.D’d on PST had a high codiene/thebaine batch and the histamine release is probably what cause him problems not the opiod agonism.

If you’re gonna kys with a drug make sure its more of a pure mu-agonist
Suitable for falling out include:
Fent and analogues
Heroin
Morphine (still might be itchy)
Methadone
Hydromorphone

Obviously if you want to die don’t eat the shit our digestive tract is supposed to be able to handle a good amount of toxins.
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 22:39:41 EST ID:8Gks/2Y/ No.588123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No you usually don't even notice them.

My first ever one the whole room was buzzing and the world went numb. I came in and out of it, feeling nothing seeing my ex's and Jah's faces and them asking if I was ok. I'm not sure I talked or not but was saying "I'm ok, I'm good yo" even tho I was probably not talking and I was actually not ok That's how much you don't notice tho...

If you fail to die, which to me anytime I OD I just fall out, you may feel a Lil dehydrated and sick and dissociated when you wake back up. It's not at,all painful tho quite the opposite, a total lack of pain or sensation barring any truth to my personal belief in an afterlife ( or afterlives, I'm a pagan reincarnee ) it's quite what I imagine being dead to feel anyhow, no sense of nothing.

That's one of the brightsides I saw in my friend johnnyrocket's death tho, he surely felt no pain on all that RC benzo, strong af IPA, and U4.

Now this is opiate OD. Stim OD I've come close too and I imagine it's painful because you're very awake and your heart explodes...
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Nell Bossleville - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 23:28:14 EST ID:mGcT95Tc No.588125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
know the floyd tune, there is no pain 'Comfortably numb' made sense. if you plan to somehow off yourseft, I would think of something different. We all have our issues.

Does one feel pain, of course. Give it a year. Don't overdose you, Do not overdose anybody.

I do no do this, but whatever the case, avoid tramadol.
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Angus Girryfet - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 01:17:56 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.588129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588121
>Why are you so heated?

This. Is. /Opi/.

>except for thebaine derivatives

You know a lot of opioids are made from thebaine right? Oxycodone, oxymorphone, buprenorphine, etorphine.

>It’s more than likely the guy above who O.D’d on PST had a high codiene/thebaine batch and the histamine release is probably what cause him problems not the opiod agonism

If it was actually a thebaine overdose then it was probably unrelated to histamine release or opioid agonism. Thebaine toxicity is a strange one but it's not down to histamine release.


tonight is my last dose I swear :^) by Ian Nibberstone - Sat, 21 Oct 2017 18:48:21 EST ID:Z2cyunDA No.586871 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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its over, laddos. It seems like I developed an addiction to my opi of preference. I started having intrusive thoughts and cravings this last week. I thought I was playing safe by dosing just on the weekends but no cigar. What do? Should I join NA or something? After how much time of being clean do the cravings stop?
>inb4 never
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Priscilla Blackford - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:08:47 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.588091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588036
it's a shit pepe but its your pepe nevertheless !
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Nigel Brookbury - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:17:45 EST ID:zs2CMxhB No.588092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588091
Thanks, man, for a moment I thought you wouldn't deliver. Are you dosing today?
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Priscilla Blackford - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 19:33:19 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.588093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588092
yup im on 300mg codeine and 150 tramadol, it's shit but it was free.
Tomorrow im cutting it off cuz ive been dosing for a couple of weeks straight.
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Phoebe Sappergold - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:08:13 EST ID:CYG/r1YW No.588095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you don't get cravings after dosing two weeks straight?
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Priscilla Blackford - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 20:56:52 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.588098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588095
Eh before this two weeks I was like 2-3 months clean so I doubt it will be something severe


Rollcall by Hannah Crammleman - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:30:32 EST ID:1PrpGjzc No.588077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New Rollcall subreddit started last night by one of the old ORC founders. /r/FairToMiddling
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I️ bbbbbbbn - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:36:59 EST ID:L4My7SvK No.588082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588077

Dump
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Esther Hondleford - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:37:21 EST ID:IirIIi40 No.588084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Inb4 the lock I guess


Suboxone blood-concentration/WD questions. by There is only Pain - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:21:51 EST ID:hy0MIVjD No.588063 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /opi/, just started my sub maintenance program. My dose is 12mg/d and i have these following questions. Thank you in advance for your answers grumpy bastards.
So:
>When bupre reaches blood concentration peak (1-3h?)
>How the dose to WD time ratio goes? Like 8mg to = (?hours to wd's)
>Is it induvival how long you will be without wd's after your dosage?
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Augustus Gellerdut - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:28:37 EST ID:aEGo7gQJ No.588071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588063
24 hours to withdrawal, 48 to worst withdrawal of your life, puking your guts out. 10x worse than heroin withdrawal
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Isabella Tillingridge - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 07:23:11 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.588072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588071
>worse than heroin withdrawal

Surely that's going to depend on how much of each you're taking?
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Emma Bingerstone - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:25:31 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.588073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588072
No its about duration of action like with methadone
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Emma Bingerstone - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:25:31 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.588074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588072
No its about duration of action like with methadone
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Henry Sosslebene - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:40:13 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588073
withdrawal severity is definitely dependent on how much you're taking, how long you've been taking, ect. area under the curve contributes to that but it's not the end all be all.


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