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What kind of dope is this? by StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:42:12 EST ID:wnw5FPSR No.578588 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm from Michigan where #4 powder is the standard heroin around here. However my one dealer sells this slightly brownish sticky tar like dope that I gotta cook to shoot. It's not like black it's softer and cooks out brown colored.

What is this? Is it #3 or something? It's definitely heroin, tastes like heroin, feels like heroin, and is heroin, I'm just so used to powder in Detroit is what this is?
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Priscilla Brandleworth - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:34:47 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah man, it happens.
Simon Brookdale - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:38:53 EST ID:em7eBRkn No.578828 Ignore Report Quick Reply

This shit kind of gets to me.

It is PERFECTLY within the realms of possibility that a deal of #3 is 25% actual H and 75% water-soluble cut of some sort which would be the logical explanation in a country with predominantly #3 imports. Users would either add it to an acid solution and everything disolves or they add their gear to water and then follow up with an acid.
With mixing it becomes gummy and all disolves, chalked up simply to the time it takes to get this done...

But flip the senario to a country that has predominantly #4...
Same 25% #3-75% Water-soluble cut, most people wouldn't even consider adding acid to see what happens. It would be chalked up to #75% gear that some idiot cut with a water insoluble cut and you would shoot it, feel ripped off and not buy from that guy again..

Although it is literally as simple as adding water and checking what happens... Somehow is isn't quite THAT simple.

I'm sure its happening more and more with online marketplaces but in my looong line of experiences it's just about always whatever dope is usually whats available because thats whats available to those who supply you... Because that'show the people that supply them have made it for decades..
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Priscilla Brandleworth - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:50:08 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's a fair point, cuts would certainly confuse the issue.
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 22 May 2017 21:04:37 EST ID:MeNVR87b No.578898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry. I guess I understand what you mean. So you know about #3 not dissolving at all in plain water so you proposed to do a comparative test on the dope. Sure, makes sense. And once you realise it's dissolving fine either way - because it's totally not #3, lol - then you can just shoot both! Although I'm not sure what happens to the citric/ascorbic in a heroin hydrochloride or acetate solution - would it stay precipitated out? Hopefully it wouldn't ruin the dope you used for the 'test' and you could filter it out afterwards.
Jenny Goodham - Wed, 24 May 2017 06:37:02 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.578986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
woo i beat u

im getting out of my mind by Eliza Cipperhood - Sun, 21 May 2017 17:50:01 EST ID:A/0sbHU/ No.578797 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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yo guys
im living in a 3rd world country (poland) and i am really addicted to iv'ing opiates
i had to leave because i got in a lot of debts to work as a subhuman in some western country
i am getting out of my mind
i cant sleep, and one times when i actually did, my dream was shooting speedball of heroine and amphetamine
since the only acces to internet i've got is a public wifi with shitty connection, only thing i canactually do is talk to people
for first 2 weeks, i have only 30 hours of work a week
it's first free day, and i have to surivve the second
please humour me up or make me kill myself
for any of those i would be much obliged

notes by Phyllis Hopperludge - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:03:50 EST ID:uey4wCiy No.578567 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone ever write a little note in the off chance you take a bad combo or overdose and die?

It's fucking dark. Its not really a suicide note, but it certainly reads like one.
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:16:24 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.578692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've left a note at the height of my depression but ironically enough things got better when I started using more. It was years ago though I don't even remember the combo I was on but it read something along the lines of this >>578570 just saying sorry but I wrote something to make it clear it's what I wanted.

I'm guilty of this a few times as well. Whether it was the isolated incident of the note or telling a friend I always feel (like you mentioned) an absoulte worthless shit when I wake up and see the message.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:37:14 EST ID:6fORcLTi No.578722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I took darvocet before. Found a prescription for it that was 2 years expired in my sisters medicine cabinet. What's fucked up is she had open heart surgery when she was 12 or 13 and should not have been given anything that is commonly known to mess with your heart. This made me question if doctors really know fucking anything at all.

Never wrote a note or considered it but I probably should, I do some stupid shit sometimes.

Good post WIAKR, I enjoyed reading it
Polly Bunham - Sat, 20 May 2017 19:57:30 EST ID:azIOO0W0 No.578748 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You had a seizure from Kratom use? How did that happen?
Hunter S. Nodson - Sun, 21 May 2017 02:03:16 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.578766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can see it causing a seizure if you have heart problems, there's a lot of alkaloids that would cause a change in blood pressure which is known to trigger seizures. Weed could cause a seizure. Epileptic seizures are different though so that's the only case where weed or possibly krstom could help but I don't know much about that.
Thomas Pondlespear - Sun, 21 May 2017 11:35:33 EST ID:OGYpcITk No.578770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn did you make it through the od?

Fake Act ? by Rebecca Churrywag - Sat, 20 May 2017 22:10:25 EST ID:FPezqpSy No.578756 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anybody in /opi/ think his act is fake. Been wondering this for awhile.
Jarvis Gonnerleg - Sat, 20 May 2017 23:28:08 EST ID:rZeEvnN1 No.578759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this a fucking troll OP? Please don't tell me you actually care if lil pump is a legit trapper or not.... Hard NB
Oliver Wezzlehall - Sun, 21 May 2017 00:32:11 EST ID:9uzRSC0V No.578763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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fake? idk. weak ass shit? yes.
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Sun, 21 May 2017 12:29:27 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.578772 Report Quick Reply
>is it fake


>anybody in opi think

nobody here actually cares tbh too busy banging heroin and fucking around with superior opioid preparations that don't cost stupid amounts of money

also lil pump fucking sucks but thats irrelevant
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:15:19 EST ID:rRdsOWq5 No.578782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
y u angree quetz?
Jenny Goodham - Wed, 24 May 2017 06:50:13 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.578987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tfw cheap & potent heroin is avaliable here & I live in england, its still better choice here than pst

and oxy is cheap here too yay

Di-acetyl-bupe-acetamide or tri-acetyl-bupe by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:51:58 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578645 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you check the BWN i posted i found a new way to make a few opi analogs and in this thread ill be teaching how to apply my method to buprenorphine which makes it roughly 2-4x more potent and also seems to make it into either a full agonist or something because it adds an insane rush, crazy euphoria, and full agonist like nods. The rush was so strong i had to push my shot insanely slow to avoid vomiting and or just falling out the rush was that strong and it lasted a full hour with residual opi stimulation for another 2-4 hours and then tapering down to hardcore sedation and mad narcoleptic nods.

Ill post pictures and step by step instructions post by post. Im starting now and will post as i go.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:55:50 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.578700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck nb

>Optimal conditions for the formation of the acetylderivatives of naloxone, naltrexone and 6, b-naltrexolinvolved heating at 80C for 6–14 h. Other workershave also recommended acetyl derivatives for GC–MS quantification of codeine and morphine [19].
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:54:01 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Presumably the naloxone is also being partly acetylated but it doesnt seem to have any effect on the antagonism. In fact this shit feels almost exactly like a full agonist when IVd. Plus its using way less of the acetyls generated since its 4 mg bupe 1 mg naloxone.
Caroline Tootfuck - Fri, 19 May 2017 21:29:03 EST ID:9uzRSC0V No.578716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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love u q, cant wait to try this.
if i use 8mg pills, should i just filter through cotton then use as you do the strip here?
how long do they last?
what do they feel like (especially without stims+benz in the rig)?
any other bonus facts appreciated
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:41:46 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hmmm for pills crush them finely first ubtil they are just dust then add the pill powder to the hot GAA or AA + and Na-acetate. filter everything out at the end, you should try both though but i think filtering it first will cause waste and could add too much water to the reaction which ruins it Other step should be the same.

On its own, The rush is slow at first but then hits u like a fucking train. The potency seems about 2-3X that of plain bupe. The rush comes on slow at first then builds into a great euphoric energy boost which lasts a little while and then rapidly gives way to very heavy full body morphine like sedation. Mental euphoria is good but not incredible however the body high is amazing. The nods are amazing as well and on top the sedation the create a wonderful synergy of perfect relaxation on the verge of a nap but instead u get those perfect short but deep and full nods.

JUST FYI to everybody this is just the first thread ill be making, I have at least 2 maybe as many as 5 in the pipeline. Plus analogs of a few other things that i may make.
Eugene Dunningbury - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:31:53 EST ID:azIOO0W0 No.578749 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Surely you can come up with something better than a spoon to do this in. Also why do you keep adding more GAA and sodium acetate after the initial reaction? Seems excessive for just 4-8mg of buprenorphine to be honest.

And holy fuck that looks janky as a motherfucker. I would not IV that shit if my life depended on it lol.

Interesting thread, though. I just wish you went into a little more detail in the steps and why they're necessary. Also some sources would be nice. Keep 'em coming, though!

poppies not germinating by Maya - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:53:30 EST ID:6GLDXiYO No.576726 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I planted my poppies 11 days ago and they still haven't sprouted. Should I give up and order more seeds? I'm really disappointed.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 18 May 2017 19:15:55 EST ID:HzDwLt53 No.578617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They should. Did the manure kill them or was it good?

Very temperature and moisture dependent but it's like 20C where I am so I might try that out. Ridiculously hot.
Maya - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:14:07 EST ID:6GLDXiYO No.578622 Ignore Report Quick Reply

30% of the soil I used is manure.

I managed to move a couple of the larger sprouts without killing them. It cooled off some and I got em up in huge clumps of soil without disrupting the roots. Hopefully they will still be looking good tomorrow.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 19 May 2017 00:45:09 EST ID:Lr9Y4I0q No.578639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Look up "Shirley Poppy Cultivation" and you might find some tricks. Papaver Genus are differentiated by their growing and cultivation similarities and the Rememberance Day poppies can reach a fucking metre tall.

It could be helpful since they grow under same conditions.
Maya - Sat, 20 May 2017 11:12:12 EST ID:6GLDXiYO No.578733 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thank you! It warms my heart how many people tried to help with my poppies.
Clara Billingshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 19:13:56 EST ID:Ck8Z8vB9 No.578747 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Every time I try to plant poppies in late spring they never germinate, but the ones that I plant the previous year around fall or winter come up just fine in early spring.

I planted some a while ago and they haven't germinated either. There was a huge storm after I planted them though so that might have been the issue. I guess I'll try planting some more but I'm not going to get my hopes up.

By the way, I've just been digging up the dirt and sprinkling them over the loose soil and then kind of mixing the soil up some. Is that the way to do it or should I just push my finger an inch or so in the soil and put a few seeds in then cover it up?

Quick Question; Sterile Filters by Nathaniel Siggleman - Mon, 15 May 2017 16:36:51 EST ID:QuKu0wS9 No.578441 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long does it take for a cotton filter to go bad after it's been sucked dry with the needle and is left in the cooker?
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Tue, 16 May 2017 20:22:17 EST ID:M/PPSQbb No.578490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Drier = less ... dope
How do you imagine that? It's not as if the dope will vaporize, ESPECIALLY not if it's below freezing!
Eugene Depperbury - Wed, 17 May 2017 15:01:20 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.578517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I save em but plug em
MDCB !txtI0IGNgk!!VyqqkppB - Sat, 20 May 2017 02:36:53 EST ID:3d7CajXN No.578729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm talking about the initial moisture removal with a syringe.
The more you pull out of the cotton, the drier it will be but it is also going to contain less gear, because rather than leaving those few extra units in the cotton, youve sucked it dry and there is considerably less in there.
Fanny Dramblestutch - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:10:29 EST ID:w9rR6Le+ No.578741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
their still wet after that...................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... you should know this
Jack Blackshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 21:57:45 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah... but obviously the less liquid that you allow to dry on to them the less dope there will be in the cottons...

Kratom Extract by Hunter S. Nodson - Mon, 01 May 2017 18:15:22 EST ID:zK3HtT5r No.577674 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Alright yall, I've been delving into kitchen chemistry lately and decided to try my hand at making some extract. This is not a guide, just a thread to discuss the production of extracts. I will post a full guide later if enough people care but mostly I want criticism from our chemists and to see if I'm doing anything wrong/anything I can improve.

I'll just be dumping the images one after another in chronological order. Pic attached is the kratom I started with.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:34:18 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a long reply for a bunch of your most recent posts but wont be able to post for a day or so.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:36:23 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Add me on steam and i can help you way more in terms of what chems to use and how to get them with out doing anything sketchy.
Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:52:30 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.578689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
check my reply to your post on acetylated bupe, and definitely. I have close neighbors so a lot of this has to be done late at night. I'm thinking of building a crude fume hood with a range hood + custom enclosure + dryer ducts through a window to minimize my exposure to all these fumes.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:21:18 EST ID:6fORcLTi No.578726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sooooooo can I get a TLDR on your extract process? Lol
Hunter S. Nodson - Sat, 20 May 2017 00:27:19 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.578727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha sure I'll post a full guide in the upcoming week though but basically:

>freeze kratom overnight
>soak in H2O2 (3% is the safest) on medium heat and make sure its the consistency of a smoothie, thinner than batter
>add a teaspoon or two citric acid or lemon/lime juice to increase the oxidation of H2O2
>agitate the kratom every 45-60 seconds or so
>add more H2O2 as it dries and keep the consistency for about 30 minutes
>now keep it on the stove until it is close to dry and continue to agitate.
>freeze kratom again (optional but you wont pull as many fats/oils/waxes/chlorophyll etc out)
>now, this part is really important. If you even have a hint that you rushed the first steps with the H2O2, use isopropyl alcohol
>if you feel like you didn't, use filtered water.
>if using iso, mix a SMALL amount of iso into enough kratom that will fit in a coffee filter and strain it as quickly as possible by lightly squeezing the filter
>repeat until all of it is ran, remember the goal is to not let it soak in the ISO else you will get unwanted shit in it
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Honeymoon Phase by what !!QJGTUbuf - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:37:41 EST ID:3qNK86pI No.576753 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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well... I've been trying to quit for ages. I just found a guy with subs. I'm gonna try to quit for real. I know I don't really talk to many of you, but you help a junkie loser feel a lot less lonely, you know? It's been fun. I'm sure I'll be back, but hopefully when I'm clean. :)
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:29:55 EST ID:MeNVR87b No.578680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Glad you're going well man. Sounds like you've truly turned a corner in your feelings about using - the fact that you merely had a single lapse that didn't turn into a relapse is proof of that. Can't give you any advice on the boredom stuff because I don't know the answer myself either, lol.
Mr.AuntBetty - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:34:37 EST ID:kHz4pqpK No.578688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good luck bud. I hope you don't but if you slip up once, dont let it bring you down, pick yourself up and continue on your journey to a clean life.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 19 May 2017 21:10:07 EST ID:6fORcLTi No.578714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I use kratom and gabapentin to deal with cravings. It was easy enough to get a gabapentin script from my doc for treatment resistant manic depression aka bi-polar disorder. And then i just order a kilo of kratom for 100 bucks, lasts me months. Kratom is to opiates as nicotine gum is to cigarettes. It's not the same but it does get rid of cravings. It's also a better pain killer than any otc painkillers, not to mention it doesn't destroy your stomach or liver like nsaids or apap. I also take valium sometimes and drink occasionally. Daily weed smokers as well.
Albert Candletirk - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:37:55 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It takes a long time to get used to spending time sober, it's definitely the hardest bit for me. Initially it can be really hard to enjoy even things that used to interest you, this is a PAWS thing and it gets better.
It's tempting to use other drugs in this stage, and that can make it easier, but at some point you are going to have to learn to kill time sober.
Exercise can kind of help with getting your endorphins going again, if nothing else the 'reward' feelings from exercise are much more pronounced while in PAWS, I'd never even noticed them prior.
Albert Candletirk - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:41:20 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I should have been clearer about that response. Using other drugs for the first couple of months isn't a totally awful idea if you're only trying to abstain from opis. The severe anhedonia bit doesn't last more than a few months, so while learning to spend time sober does take practice the first little while after getting clean is you 'sober' but definitely not normal, it gets better.

Withdrawal stories by flower - Sat, 13 May 2017 20:33:18 EST ID:jSrUqgY2 No.578344 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's your worst experiencing kicking opiates/opiods? What was the drug and how long had you been using? How long did WDs last?
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Phoebe Grandfoot - Mon, 15 May 2017 19:41:55 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Passing out while driving is fucking terrifying. I only did it while stopped at a traffic light, but that was enough. Going from awake at the lights with cars on either side of me to waking up with no cars anywhere to be seen was pretty worrying. It was around that point I made some serious efforts to get off the shit.

I missed the part where you said you have a benzo habit as well. Basically I reckon your chances are better if you try quitting the minimum of substances at once. The heightened anxiety from PST alone is rough, with benzos thrown into the mix I imagine things get messy.
While Lexapro takes a while to have any effect but if you've been taking tramadol daily for a while then those adaptation have already occurred basically. See how you go, but if the brain zaps are bothering you then try taking half a tablet or something, titrate til you get to the minimum amount that reduces or eliminates the symptoms. If you can avoid doing it then by all means do so, because Lexapro WD isn't a walk in the park either.
I'm not sure how tramadol WDs are but with SNRI antidepressants the WDs can make you act pretty erratically, especially when combined with opi WD and make the mental aspect of things a lot harder.
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Tue, 16 May 2017 01:04:29 EST ID:TTrJ8gbH No.578460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My personal experience with escitalopram (Lexapro) withdrawal was very surprising. I'd been on 20mg daily for a little over two years. I decided I'd had enough of the side-effects - had been causing me to feel sleepy and lethargic ALL the time - so I just stopped taking it cold turkey one day. I was apprehensive because of all the horror stories I'd read about SSRI 'discontinuation syndrome' (lol, just call it fucking withdrawal you disgusting pharmaceutical companies) but lo and behold, I had absolutely zero withdrawal symptoms. I slept well at night, I had no brain zaps, I had no restless legs, you name it and I didn't experience it. I was so happy. Sorry I know this is a little unrelated but I wanted to add my personal experience with Lexapro w/d and that perhaps it isn't as bad as it's made out to be.
Oliver Nirringdock - Tue, 16 May 2017 04:12:35 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From what I remember of stopping escitalopram it was nothing like as bad as sertraline or desvenlafaxine.

I probably should have thought about this response a little more. It's probably not a good idea to try to go off benzos while still taking 600mg of tramadol a day, since both of those things are going to lower the seizure threshold.
Augustus Drambleforth - Tue, 16 May 2017 13:03:05 EST ID:b12pNaVL No.578475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a newer SSRI on the market called Trintellix (formerly Brintellix) that caused some of the worst withdrawals I've ever had. I was on it for a year when I finally made some major lifestyle changes and decided I didn't need it anymore and my god... I felt like I was being electrocuted every hour. I would literally jolt physically and wince when the brain zaps came on. It felt like some impaled a long, razor thin metal skewer right into the middle of your forehead and pulled it out lightning quick. Combined with the restlessness and trouble sleeping, you're living in paranoia of the zaps man... Shit sucks for about 2 weeks.
what !!QJGTUbuf - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:12:47 EST ID:gI32iVtA No.578676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
quitting fentanyl was fucking terrible. made the H withdrawals look like fucking cake.

i was throwing up probably 20 hours a day, i would drink water just so i wasn't throwing up bile. my ass was dripping, i could hardly stand up, and my sweats were terrible. my girlfriend at the time took care of me, the saint.

they lasted like 2 and a half weeks. never using fent again. like, it's good for a binge, but holy shit, those withdrawals make it not worth it at fucking all.

RC opiates by Nigel Heggledale - Wed, 17 May 2017 16:51:21 EST ID:xIgFI70Q No.578520 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's the best RC opiate?
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:22:34 EST ID:8BrC3YN/ No.578605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit, I didn't mean to hit submit yet! Oh well, I'll just continue here.

Are the chemists in China able to separate out all of the different stereoisomers, or am I going to have to do that myself? It's not an easy d vs l thing - there are six friggen' forms lol. And each one has a different activity level. In fact, I think some of them are fucking antagonists, so they DEFINITELY need to be separated lol. Also, any advice on how to do that would be hugely appreciated.
And then are there any substitutions which you'd recommend? I am, of course, going to look into acetylating the molecules ;) (I hope that turns into a face lol), but I welcome any others! I might try al plugging in some halogens here and there. The only thing about which I worry is any possible toxicity issues, so I'm going to have to research that, or possibly experiment a bit myself to find out. Anyone know where to get lab rats cheaply lol?

That's all the questions I can think up now, but I will likely return with more! I genuinely think I might be onto something big here, though, and I'm not just bullshitting. I hope I've gotten really lucky lol. Like, I just don't know how to convey just how excited I am about this! It could very seriously be a game-changer, but only if the chemical doesn't have any huge issues, like terrible side effects, toxicity, etc. Here's hoping!!

>Inb4 FBI, CIA, NSA, DEA, and ETC. all come after me for potentially ruining their heroin revenue lmao. If I disappear, you guys know what happened!! :3
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:42:45 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can answer most of this but i want to know what youre looking at. Maybe nalbuphine? Ive also considered having IC-26 synthed and i did order 5 grams of W-15. Ive also had a bunch of different fent analogs.

Ask lots of places about price, minimum quantity, synthesis difficulties, estimate on final purity or tell them it has to be X purity minimum most people dont realize this can and often does effect the price.

They should always be able to determine how to synthesize whatever you are asking for as long as you can give them an accurate chemical structure. It doesnt matter how niche it is, this is part of what youre paying them for.

The price is entirely dependent on how difficult and expensive the synthesis is, Ive never had a quote less than $380/g for small scale and bulk the price breaks are huge but you often need to buy $1000-$2000 worth of product to get good discounts.

Customs probably wont give a fuck if its not related to any morphinans, fentanyl, W-18, demerol, dextromoramide, ketobemidone, or methadone. Plus most of the good chinese labs are good at getting through customs. Ive even worked with a few that seemingly are able to skip customs if you request "extra stealth shipping" or something similar, my packages will be listed as departing Hong Kong or somewhere similar and then just suddenly appear somewhere along the west coast in a post office without passing through any of the inbound customs ports.

As far as synth quality this varies wildly and is why you need to speak with as many labs as you can find that look legit. I know in my head all the places i would personally ask first but that doesnt mean there arent other places that are good too. I generally like working with the chinese tbh, ive almost always been satisfied and once you find the places you like to work with they basically live to keep you as a regular customer and will go to extremes to keep you satisfied and coming back to them. However be respectful and dont abuse this relationship or they will fuck with you. Also the composition of your emails matters a lot, like for example how you address them and how you end your message but also the contents should be careful thought out and put…
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:49:31 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.578610 Report Quick Reply

also this

people reported side effects of mt-45 to include irritated/dried skin spots (anywhere from a small spot to a sizable portion of overall skin), thinning/straight up balding, hair starts growing straight blond as fuck, hearing issues, IIRC somebody had some weird fucked up muscular weakness shit start. MT-45 is a no-go.

u-47 is pretty caustic on the veins, can't imagine it being any better for your nose. some decent experiences with it and not as many horrendous side effects as other stuff.

whatever fentanyl analogues are still legal, but potency makes dosing dangerous if you're not very careful with everything. W-18 isn't a fent analogue IIRC but is like 100x more potent so why bother with it lol, fuck around and look at it wrong and you might OD.

there really aren't any "good" rc opis where "good" means "you don't need to eat 5 grams" and "actually has euphoria".

there's still seeds if you just want to get loaded. if you're trying to dodge a test or something... good luck lol.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:53:02 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You'll need to ask if they can produce specific stereoisomers and which one you want. The better labs may be able to do this for you but thats going to make the price go waaaay up. Its also not something you will be able to do yourself. Six forms isnt even too bad imagine if every one of those had a mirror rotation form and if every form also had a boat and chair conformation with only the boat conformation producing activity. Yah. I can recomend substitutions until i can see the base molecule your thinking of dawg. Generally i tend to favor unusual subs when they can be put to use (sulfonyl and nitro for example) but also like easy subs with consistent results.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:07:51 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LOL i tried to order W-18 one time from canada from a legit chemical wholesaler who had it listed on their website as in stock. I got an email a couple days after i place the order saying i needed to call the company corporate office or theyd be reporting me to the canadian dea and the actual dea. When i called them to find out what happened they said that w-18 had been illegal in canada for about 3 months. Luckily i had this naive young lady receptionist on the line and i explained im from the US and had no idea it was illegal and that they still had the item listed as in stock and for sale on their website so it was just an innocent mistake oh and also seriously please dont report me to the dea kay. She was like oooh i see what happened yah its alright you havent been reported and ill just take care of this and remove the whole thing from the system. I thanked her a bunch apologized and hung up quick. It was a pretty funny experience though.

3 Years Clean from Dope by KingPoli - Wed, 17 May 2017 21:21:26 EST ID:E8nnsPcL No.578535 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Not sure if anyone remembers me but today i have 3 years off dope and 1.5 off subxone. I wish you all the best whether ur nodding out clean or whatever. Pic sorta related, happy to be off them bitches
Clara Tootstock - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:33:58 EST ID:EuyHx9Ao No.578572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol, just what the fuck. Thankfully OP seems strong-minded but what if someone is on the verge of relapse and hears such BS? Dumbass.

Anyway much props dude, keep it on! I'm always glad to hear such success stories.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:46:23 EST ID:2HO0sEyk No.578575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey KingPoli, I remember you.

Do you still get cravings? Any slip ups? Switched to another drug category?

I'd love to hear more about it.

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