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Rollcall by Hannah Crammleman - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:30:32 EST ID:1PrpGjzc No.588077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New Rollcall subreddit started last night by one of the old ORC founders. /r/FairToMiddling
Iļø bbbbbbbn - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 12:36:59 EST ID:L4My7SvK No.588082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Esther Hondleford - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:37:21 EST ID:IirIIi40 No.588084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Inb4 the lock I guess

Suboxone blood-concentration/WD questions. by There is only Pain - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 04:21:51 EST ID:hy0MIVjD No.588063 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /opi/, just started my sub maintenance program. My dose is 12mg/d and i have these following questions. Thank you in advance for your answers grumpy bastards.
>When bupre reaches blood concentration peak (1-3h?)
>How the dose to WD time ratio goes? Like 8mg to = (?hours to wd's)
>Is it induvival how long you will be without wd's after your dosage?
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Augustus Gellerdut - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 06:28:37 EST ID:aEGo7gQJ No.588071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
24 hours to withdrawal, 48 to worst withdrawal of your life, puking your guts out. 10x worse than heroin withdrawal
Isabella Tillingridge - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 07:23:11 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.588072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>worse than heroin withdrawal

Surely that's going to depend on how much of each you're taking?
Emma Bingerstone - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:25:31 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.588073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No its about duration of action like with methadone
Emma Bingerstone - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 08:25:31 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.588074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No its about duration of action like with methadone
Henry Sosslebene - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:40:13 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
withdrawal severity is definitely dependent on how much you're taking, how long you've been taking, ect. area under the curve contributes to that but it's not the end all be all.

HEEEEELP by Alice Sabberville - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:36:07 EST ID:Fnqp28wP No.587994 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Been using opiates enough to just barely not be physically dependent for a decade. IVing off and on for the past five years. Almost always had easy access to 31G needles that would either be one or a half cc. But the day I've always feared has come: no more unlimited and nearly free needles. I have some coming in the mail but i have to wait on standard shipping. Ive already wasted 2 points over the course of the day with them. The veins in my arms and hands either are too thin for it or too close to the surface to make manipulating this hell beast of a rig correctly. Any tips? How do i find deep, thick veins? From what i read shorter 25g needles are actually preference for some injectors.
Shitting Snoddock - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 11:38:42 EST ID:p77ZzRNy No.588015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You need 30ga 1/2"at a minim to hit deep ish veins, start away from deep deep. Hit your basilic vein in your arm, and bicep. There a big vein that runs on the center inside on your calf that is the basilic ewuivalent. Starts a few inches below the knee and runs to a few inches above the ankle. The leg one, just above the ankleb is doable with a 31 short if you go in 90 degree from the skin
Cyril Tillingspear - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 20:15:39 EST ID:YGRk4DEk No.588037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
warm bath dude all your veins will show remember where they are as >>588015 these two are easy to find try not to hit your hands/wrists even tho its super easy (like I do) it will leave track scars

always tie up read how to do it online rubber hose works best
and for fuck sakes use 25-28ga 1/2" rigs only anything longer is for IM also the deeper you go the more likely you are to have some nasty bruising
Shitting Claddledale - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 21:10:20 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I realize this isn't super helpful but my friend did something I thought was kind of cool.
he got a tattoo pointing to his favorite IV spot so he can always find it. not really practical (imo) and kind of lame for a tattoo but at the same time I sorta thought it was cool.
Cyril Tillingspear - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:40:23 EST ID:YGRk4DEk No.588049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my sides make it stop it hurts to much

post a pic man
Shitting Claddledale - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 23:38:45 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.588052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I definitely will next time I see him, which could be never though so ...
the funniest thing about it is he's not even a junky, like of all the people to get that sort of tattoo that I know, he's definitely not the first that comes to mind. dude loves his drugs though, that's for damn sure.

CNS depressant mix by Shitting Worthingfoot - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:22:45 EST ID:iq+qZI5f No.587901 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So last night I tripped but needed to take 1mg of a kpin at 11. I woke up around 11 and decided to take 10mg oxy. It's 2:30 right now and am having trouble breathing. Am I psyching myself out? I have a moderate tolerance to oxy and a low tolerance for benzos.
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Shitting Worthingfoot - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:10:53 EST ID:iq+qZI5f No.587909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My typical dose is 60mg oxy daily. I think it's just all mental. Just would rather have a second opinion to be safe.
Shitting Worthingfoot - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:11:58 EST ID:iq+qZI5f No.587910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My typical dose is 60mg oxy daily but I think it's just all mental. Just needed a second opinion to be safe.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:16:14 EST ID:FCG+1HPm No.587911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ur fine buddy. have a good day
Alice Deshlock - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:56:57 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.587917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is common for opiates especially when mixed with benzodiazepines. The shallow breathing happens often but you just have to pay as much attention as possible.

You are completely fine on that combo especially with any kind of tollys. You probably experienced very minor labored breathing then made it much worse psyching yourself out.
Rebecca Dimmerkudge - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 11:53:15 EST ID:eU8A7HuA No.588019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>60mg oxy daily
the absolute madman

Done Clin by Esther Gedgefark - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:47:05 EST ID:jEdGbRBb No.587545 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the fuck do I have to say to get approved for methadone treatment?
I'm willing to lie my ass off.
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MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:17:14 EST ID:1VxigF45 No.587960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I could pick these numbers apart.

Now this I want to see!
Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 18:21:19 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
uh dude, no one is saying fent doesn't make heroin more deadly. again you've totally missed the point of my post (which took no stance on any issue. the only point of my post was that you were making strong claims without the experience to back them up, and that you should either talk about things you actually know or post some legit data), which you only now decided to read. look at your response again, none of the things in that post had anything to do with my post.

either you read it and ignored it to make whatever point you were trying to make (heroin is dangerous? uh yeah no shit), or you didn't really read it until now but still somehow managed to miss the point of what I said, it doesn't really matter.

since you either didn't read it or just want to ignore it to make your point, I'll quote the important parts here for you
>the danger of cuts is real and should be discussed
>you have no real experience or data [posted to this thread, if it wasn't clear. I was making no claims as to whether any data existed, only that you had not brought any] to back up these massive, sweeping claims you're making

by the way, the issue is how common dangerously cut heroin is. of course fent is more dangerous than dope, and of course dope laced with fent is more dangerous than plain dope, neither point was ever in contention. additionally, I'd really like to see what research or statistics brought you to your conclusion that that fent-pressed pills are so common and hard to identify.

>I'm sorry I'm so tired of shifting through data that I often can't be bothered. I'm burnt out.
that's completely fair, I don't blame you for not wanting to basically work for free. at the same time, that isn't a free pass to make any claims you want and getting haughty when someone calls you on it. do you get that? that's been my point from the start. you can either do the research, frame your statement in the context of your experience, or post your claims as what they are, claims, not facts.

additionally, if you're going to continue perhaps it would be better to make your own thread?
Dr. M - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:29:32 EST ID:jNhGDmFZ No.587997 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I guess I just don't realistically understand what you want from me.

No I don't have experience ODing from fentanyl. If I did I wouldn't be here.

Go on circlejerk and look at all the fake Opi pills. Quantitative research will never give us the statistics we want on this due to the nature of the beast we are studying.

As for personal experience, as Nodson my friend. That dude gets fake 30s like 80% of the time.

I saw all of your points. Yes I know our experience with H is similar.

Your point was use facts or experience or GTFO, and I'm telling you that the facts are too convoluted for our purposes. I don't have personal experience because I made promises to people I love and they can't really handle me dying on a Wednesday night for science.

I respect your points and general position. You don't like my general vibe of "this is how it is folks cuz I said so," and that's totally fine and reasonable. We need people like you here.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 01:11:44 EST ID:RCZYnhfr No.588005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please think about what you're saying with that kind of generalised statement about an entire continent's drug scene. Just because you've dipped your toes into the scene doesn't mean you can say stuff like that with confidence. For one thing, where do you think the heroin that people sell on the darknet comes from? Their local scene. They're off the same bricks of heroin that's imported into the country and sold down the chain to the street. Darknet sellers don't have magically unique direct connections to uncut bricks of heroin lol. They're considered small-time as you can see by the quantities they deal in. That fact alone should tell you that it's plain disingenuous to claim that you're guaranteed to be using shitty fentanyl-filled gear if you use heroin.
Oliver Nurrykack - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:11:27 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.588046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well there are many reports throughout the states that most batches of heroin are cut with fents. few people will have a dealer that only pushes fent free dope

Youngfags in love with the poppy by Nathaniel Lightfuck - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:56:51 EST ID:toNTkg5w No.586327 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I wonder if there are a lot of young opioid users here.
21 and have been on and off the conventional opioids for about 2 years.(morph,oxycodone,tramadol).
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Cyril Borrydale - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 16:59:07 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
... :(
I can't even score oxy atm.
I miss binging and passing the fuck out in the sofa.
Lillian Sunninghat - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:37:18 EST ID:ZtEeEstv No.587885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's still about that strong for me atm because I haven't had cash in like 2 months and I'm really struggling atm but when I get it, it hits almost like that first time minus I'd say ~20% strength.

I just miss how long it used to last, back then I'd be high for at least 4 hours but now I could easily do another shot after 2 hours
Samuel Drullydale - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:27:06 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.587887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's still just as strong, assuming you take multiple times the amount you used to.
IME anyway
Rebecca Shittingford - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:03:38 EST ID:OyB2kD9T No.587943 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Started with oxys 80s at 16 was shooting dope not even a year later, 25 now in a methadone clinic, I wish I was younger, would of liked to correct my bullshit selfpitying delusional self.
Fanny Mivingshit - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:32:56 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Eh self pity is a beast, I guess I'm happy that I know that this is a drug with which I'll have interaction for the rest of my life, that way I've avoided the whole ''I won't get addicted im better than this" and I don't dose more than 2 or 3 times a week, psychologically I know it has taken hold in my mind so sucking up the small withdrawals you get throught the week.
I wish you well bro, I'm pretty high right now so this might not make sense.

Research Chems by Angus Drublingway - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:40:14 EST ID:KcJQeKgs No.587838 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was recently introduced to the world of RCs. A couple opiod - like chems that seem to be popular currently are o-desmethyltramadol and MAF (methoxy-acetyl-fentanyl). Anyone have any experience with these? I was once addicted to fentanyl so my tolerance is very high. Was mostly wondering what a good starting dose is for the MAF. Already have some MAF on the way, and while I will be very careful, it would still be nice to have some insight going into it.
I am also quite interested in trying the o-desmethyltramadol (prodrug to tramadol, much lower siezure risk, 80% strength morphine) so was hoping someone might have some experiences to report on that as well.
I will report back with my own experiences with the MAF in a few days hopefully. On that note, any insights or experiences with these chemicals are greatly welcomed.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:08:29 EST ID:ThEay7Iz No.587908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
isnt o dsmt just the active main metabolite of tramadol?
Jenny Drodgeham - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:26:35 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sophie Follyridge - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:43:45 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.587925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, it's the major one IIRC, but tramdol is active in and of itself and (far) more potent as an SNRI.
Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:12:43 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my b, hit submit post on accident trying to scroll

o-dsmt is AN active metabolite of tramadol but tramadol has other metabolites as well (in addition to the obvious N-DSMT, which is not active in opiate receptors but is metabolized into O-DSMT, further complicating tramadol's already fucky pharmacokinetics). Tramadol has 5 different metabolites, each of which has its own metabolites, which combined with the kinetics of its metabolization through various P450 enzymes make it different enough from O-DSMT that I'd say calling it "just tramadol's main active metabolite", while technically true, is a little reductive given their differing effect profiles.

O-DSMT is not an SRI (although its - enantiomor (I know I fucked that spelling but you know what I mean) is still a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). It is also a much much more potent agonist (something like five hundred times the affinity of tramadol and efficacy equal to morphine. All that, along with the fact that you are not relying on P450 enzymes for metabolization and thus don't have to worry about a "ceiling effect" or any of the other messiness that brings, makes it a somewhat different beast pharmacodynamically. It's obviously similar in effect to tramadol but the lack of SRI effects and the huge increase in strength give it enough of a different flavor in my opinion.
Augustus Chandlepadging - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 05:21:23 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
now that's kind of reply I've been expecting, thanks man

Theophrastus Werrywag by Opiate Nausea - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:52:51 EST ID:sdoM04jx No.587725 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tips and tricks out opiate nausea and how to deal with it?

Past the normal remedies like ginger tea and benadryl. That stuff has little to no effect on me. People also say gravol and other basic OTC drugs but I've taken all of that and still have projectile vomit at the toilet. Apparently ondesetron doesn't actually work for opiate based nausea so that's a even bigger disappointment.

Any piece of food that enters my mouth gets immediately vomited out within 15 minutes. Starting to get really dehydrated too.
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Bombastus Werrywag - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:01:02 EST ID:gFtE1ryS No.587832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you sure stomach viruses shouldn't be purged?

Lmao whoops. I read "weed" nowadays and get distracted and ignore most of it. Plus the most I took out of his message was the "dude stop doing such high doses" which I wholeheartedly agree with. This dosage was FUCKED.

Anyway, gonna go emphasize 420 now. Thanks, guys.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:34:18 EST ID:FCG+1HPm No.587859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
glad to hear you seem to have gotten the puking seemingly as under-control as it can be.
Sidney Grimway - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:54:43 EST ID:p5YRMY04 No.587860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Barnaby Hummerdock - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:37:40 EST ID:vEFxusyE No.587895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never really had opiate nausea unless I really over do it.

Have you tried smoothies/shakes to get some food in you?
Bombastus Werrywag - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:45:13 EST ID:ezlaoK9a No.587916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watermelon and strawberries were the only thing i could keep down

ate a lot of those to keep me hydrated

Best z-drug to use to possibly start a nod?With methadone only by Isabella Blirryshit - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:10:19 EST ID:ObQuZupO No.587835 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm currently in a drug program. I've been clean for 6 months now but i would like to beable to get a nod on if the methadone im taking is potentiated what drugs that are non narcotic will help me? ambien? im on currently 80mg but i can get asmuch methadone as i want but ive taken 600mg and i just felt normal.
Esther Farringketch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 03:53:11 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.587845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait until you are in WD to dose, I know this increases the effects of stuff. Done is gonna make your tolly crazy high unfortunately.
Lillian Gimblepeg - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:04:09 EST ID:E0MOwXYJ No.587862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
needs to drinks some white grapefruit juice
Phyllis Pittwell - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:53:01 EST ID:3pMfytGG No.587906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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600-1000mg cimitidine and 10-20mg lope to fill your gullet

NALT THREAD by Alice Dedgespear - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:49:17 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587374 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ULDN, LDN, ect. thread

I keep seeing people post about this, what's the deal?
is there a good wiki/faq post breaking it down?
I've googled for a bit but it just came up with some speculation on blue light and related sites.

If anyone here knows anything about this, please fill me in!!

I'm currently taking dxm and calcium to reduce tolerance, sometimes cycling in agmatine and hopefully getting some mematine or w/e soon.
Nalt obviously has a different mechanism of tolerance reversal than NMDA antagonists and the like, how's it all work? Basically any info on the subject would be appreciated, especially any links to papers on the subject. thanks for reading and may your nods be long and happy
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Charles Wandlelodge - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:38:06 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
calcium also helps (according to the research, I've only recently added it). I'm not sure if these things have a cumulative effect or the benefits cap out at quickly or how dose dependent it is or what, there's a lot that has yet to be explored research wise. I've also found ketamine and related drugs pretty effective but I feel like tripping on K every day is probably super bad for you (or at least for your wallet). love that shit though, so weird.

my dose has gone up and down but it's currently less than twice what I started with, and that's with everyday use (although I don't always try to get high, sometimes I just take a maintenance dose. for a while it was 4-5 days high, 2-3 maint. per week about). Sometimes I get lazy and fall off for a few weeks on the tolerance stuff and it'll rise fairly quick again but when I stay on it, it's decently effective at keeping things from getting too out of control.

I'd really recommend sticking to infrequent use though, no matter what you do you can't really get high all the time without getting into heroic dosages. I dunno your history but in case you haven't been there, dependence sucks if for no other reason than you're putting yourself on a fairly short clock, where any setback on supply can end up with you sick as hell.
Hamilton Brookworth - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:46:42 EST ID:UVNTR8QP No.587677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My history of use, at its worst, was being pretty severely addicted to fentanyl. I cold turkeyed and made it through somehow after almost 14 days of agony. But yes I will continue my infrequent use. It has to remain infrequent as I can easily take down a quarter g of #4 in a night if I wanted (insuffulated). And thats after not doing any opioids for a week+. Simply too expensive to dose daily. Thanks for the advice though will definitely take it into consideration the calcium.
1 other quick question- what is the daily amount of dxm I should be taking? Just 1 regular dose that it recommends per day or what?
Polly Widdleforth - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 00:30:21 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.587697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no guarantees uldn works with kratom as kratom has antagonists as well, iirc
Eugene Cenningworth - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:18:13 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well it is dose dependent (apparently? it seems to be in my experience but there's still so much I don't know. what I wouldn't give for a cool 1mill in research grants) but at the same time you probably don't want to trip dxm all day every day so I'd say 30-60mgs (this is below my threshold for dxm. more than this and I start to feel the dxm itself).

Also, this effect isn't limited to DXM, most (all?) NMDA antagonists have this effect so if you ever feel like tripping on K or one of it's many cousins, you get that added bonus.
Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:58:47 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
btw everyone I'm in the process of sourcing some Nalt, once it's here I'll start experimenting and share my experience here. planning on taking fairly in depth notes (compared to my usual drug fueled ramblings. or more accurately, along with my usual drug fueled ramblings

BWN by nz !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 03:16:00 EST ID:lHqYb4+d No.585434 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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May ye bags be filled to thy brim and a pox on those who choose to administer false adulterants unto thee

Bump of a speedball with nice pure local H
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 23:23:57 EST ID:8Gks/2Y/ No.587889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ofc the honest cool dope dealer I have is thinking of quitting because people ripped him off now he has to play catch up. I know one of the girls who did it too... fucking way to ruin it for everyone! Im making sure to get him custos and help fix his situation so he doesn't quit. Im sick of dealing with paranoid black people who wanna tell me grey dope isn't fent and that he'll "take me to class" and show me how the tan shit is the same as they grey shit... fucking dumbass. I made him give me another pack for free cuz that grey shit was trash.

I had a blast gettin high as fuck in a fancy hotel room on the 60th floor of the Renn Cen with weeaboo shit everywhere as you can imagine! Even tho i t was last min and Team Four Star didn't show it was probably the best con I ever been to ever. Are you on the /opi/ steam group? Join the /stim/ one ( /geeteredgamers/ ) and add my steam yo.
press !XIxc6BpKnU - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:19:56 EST ID:ThEay7Iz No.587900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whats this
Aureolus Werrywag - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:27:04 EST ID:ezlaoK9a No.587993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what is it?
Stanko - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:25:58 EST ID:uKDXWCE6 No.588270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Have i ruined my tolerance permanently? by Thomas Chezzleforth - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:45:31 EST ID:kBMgxugl No.587853 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Could I have ruined my tolerance by basically binging on 20x20mg methadone over the course of some weeks? This is probably 7 months ago.
I had some morphine last week, 150mg throughout the day didn't even reach my socks. What's the deal?
Esther Farringketch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:52:53 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.587855 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There are types of tolerance. I think your brain is probably recovered, but if you are comparing it to early opi usage you will never reach that subjective high because it isn't novel anymore. You didn't know what you were getting into with the first opiate high, but suddenly you were floating. That wont come back unfortunately. I think this is what people mean chasing the dragon. There are reports of people taking a multi year break, then come back and feel like the drug wasn't even worth all the problems they had, when they LOVED it before.

Basically I think your brain should be mostly recovered, but you may not get the high you were used to if it was early in your career. Not to mention, Morphine is really subtle/weak compared to other opis unless you are IV user. Methadone is actually really great if you don't have a tolly, not sure on how it compares as I've never done it but if it was really euphoric for the binge you just may not be able to get there with oral morphine. Especially dosed slowly throughout the day. I can't find methadone to morphine equipotency data online, but I strongly believe it is at least 2x as potent.
Oliver Hebblegold - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:19:25 EST ID:nlS4hic+ No.587865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've noticed that there is a permanent tolerance with Opioid use.
It will go down some with time, but when I first started out, hell, 10mg of hydro would have me flying.
After years of pushing 50-100mg it went up and stayed there.
for example, I havent touched Opiates in over a year, and just last week I took 70mg of Hydro, and I barely felt it.
Sucks, I know

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