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Gaba dosages? by Ernest Sisslespear - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 16:47:59 EST ID:4+0ep4ck No.594392 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How many milligrams of gabapenton do you need to take to offset withdrawal symptoms? I have a prescription to gaba for nerve pain and depression I've heard it works wonders for w/d. I'm only prescribed 100mg a day but I have a pretty hefty supply. I'm coming off an H binge and I'm just curious how many I need to / or could safely take to offset symptoms.
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Graham Hunderbuck - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:24:58 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.594405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take a pill every hour with soda until you feel better. Spacing out your doses helps massively with absorption .

I feel much better around 700mg taken, but that's probably only half of that kicking in because even with the soda it takes forever to fully kick . Then I sleep forever, which is perfect for WD.
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Ernest Degglefuck - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 06:53:57 EST ID:3gGmVEM2 No.594423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594405
never heard of the soda thing. does it have anything to do with sugar or will fizzy water work?
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Clara Blackworth - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 09:50:35 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.594428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594423

It's the carbonation so yea it should work.


on kratom and opi tolerance by Graham Sobberpon - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:52:41 EST ID:ralwiZ9d No.594406 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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had a quick question that i'm sure someone here has a concrete answer to. bit confused as i've been seeing a lot of differing statements about this.

does daily kratom use raise tolerance to other opis, block their method of action, or both? as far as i understand it does raise tolerance but does it block other opis in your system? if you've been using kratom to maintain for months daily, and then dosed another opi 24 hours after a kratom dose, would you not get high due to residual antagonist blocking chemicals in kratom?
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Nell Gobblestone - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 04:39:10 EST ID:jMNmucDr No.594419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594413

What would you say the dose cutoff is then where they can overpower other opis? Is 10-12 grams daily still on the lower side?
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Doris Gollerdit - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 05:35:42 EST ID:WhhWBMC5 No.594420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594419
If you enjoy Kratom daily you might like, not be able to enjoy 90mg of codeine like someone with no tolerance can. That's probably all - doses that would noticeably affect tolerance to anything stronger like even tramadol do not fit in your belly.

Along with Kratom's mildness, atypicality plays a role. The more atypical a drug is, the less it affects typical (or in different way atypical) drugs of the same class.

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Disclaimer: This is my understanding on the matter, but I'm just an autistic pharmacology hobbyist of 10 years. Above is true but take the following with a grain of salt:

  • The fun in Kratom comes from partial agonism of μ-opioid receptors and also NDMA antagonism
  • Compare this to most opioids, which are are simply full agonists of μ-opioid receptors.
What this means is: The way Kratom works has only a slight bit in common with traditional opioids.

To clarify on the antagonism matter:
  • The NDMA antagonism produces wanted effects that give a subjective boost. It's like boosting with dissociatives.
  • Antagonism in opioid receptors is not wanted, as it blocks agonism. But it matters very little as most of the agonism in Kratom and other opioids happens in μ-opioid receptors, while the antagonism happens in κ- and δ-opioid receptors
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Doris Gollerdit - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 05:48:01 EST ID:WhhWBMC5 No.594421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594419
Oh and on completely "overpowering" other opioids with Kratom probably just won't happen. To repeat the bolded points:
  • the opioid antagonism happens in the less significant opioid receptor classes
  • the agonism on μ-opioid receptors is partial + boosted by NDMA antagonism.

Excuse the splaining but I'm very euphoric atm
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Charles Posslefork - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 06:17:33 EST ID:ralwiZ9d No.594422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594421
>>594420

Thank you, that's exactly the kind of info I was looking for! No worries about the explaining, always nice to read a longer post.
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Thomas de Queasy - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 08:10:26 EST ID:EUr2jnbm No.594426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594420
Delta agonism is pretty great actually, Oxymorphone/codone feel so nice because of it, also better side effects profile.

As for kappa agonism or antagonism, it can be great or terrible. Sigma receptors also seem to play a role in the mediation of both recreational potential and analgesia in most opioids IiRC.


Maeng Da and Horniness by Phineas Blythehall - Thu, 15 Mar 2018 20:44:25 EST ID:X2kV5Wz9 No.593606 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who else gets incredibly horny after drinking Maeng Da kratom? I always end up having the worlds most wet dreams, one time I even came in my sleep at the thought of dickgirls.

It is divine
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Nicholas Blythedale - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 01:38:20 EST ID:GrSEu08P No.594191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
horniness from opioids is almost certainly a product of the increased dopamine activity just like how weed can make people horny and stims always make people horny
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Thomas de Queasy - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 04:27:53 EST ID:KVHRtt0q No.594193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594191
Yeah, that's the dopaminergic pathways getting their jimmies rustled. Wears off with long term use, and addiction destroys the libido because of lowered testosterone.
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Frederick Conningbanks - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 09:51:23 EST ID:3GCbb5sK No.594201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>593642
haaaa your still basically a 'newfag' why would we miss your kratom posts & bitching
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Augustus Gurrystock - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 12:01:26 EST ID:01wH5oBA No.594207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>593642
Relax
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Cornelius Crumblekedging - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 01:12:49 EST ID:bZn7Zwvg No.594417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>593640
I actually can't find any studies that show histamine increasing libido. I found a few pages that asserted that it did, but none cited sources. As was said, the paper you linked to does not mention libido at all only arousal in the sense of alertness.


BWN by Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 08:31:09 EST ID:Mbas1KCo No.592209 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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BWN not bumping anymore

ITT: answer the following
>what are you consuming?
>how are you consuming it?
>what are you doing while on "it"?

Lets get some drugs in our veins boys! MUCH LOVE TO ALL /OPI/

holy shit bumping hard as fuck. still riding that seed tea train but coming down so im about to a fat fat shot of this morphine

gonna do my shot then set up my vive and play fallout4vr
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Phoebe Funningketch - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:59:43 EST ID:0sB/BWoK No.594394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594384
"Injected into my wrist. The veins in my arms are starting to go"

I agree though, this is the BWN and judgement belongs elsewhere.
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Martha Drepperbanks - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 00:31:45 EST ID:eoAWcFF8 No.594412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>what are you consuming?
8g of Red Maeng Da kratom, 2g CBD blunt, THC ejuice from last year's grow

>how are you consuming it?
Kratom in protein shaker with honey and green tea. Backwoods blunt for the CBD bud, and a cheap-o vaporizer for the THC ejuice.

>what are you doing while on "it"?
Watching toonami, talking to friends online, chilling, feeling tired and comfy; That's about it.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 16:17:34 EST ID:+KZfcyFF No.594445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been clean for weeks. Decided to pick up half an 8mg suboxone last night. Shot 2 mg last night nodded hard as fuck! Did a small booster when I woke up this morning and I've literally been nodding and feeling amazing for like 16 hours now. Probably going to do another very small booster, lest I make the same mistake as last time I. E. I did too much too quickly and got very fucking sick for like 24 hours. 4 mg is too much with my tolerance these days. Crazy that it used to be my maintenance dose. BWN! have a good fuckin day opi!
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 22:14:22 EST ID:T0kToIqC No.594458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bumping on just my methadone so far. Getting paid later so will have some updates for then.

I had a nice shot the other day of Flunitrazepam (roofies / Rohypnol) with a speedball. That was real nice. The solution is blue, I guess so people know if their drinks are spiked. AFAIK they dont script them here anymore but a mate had a few.

pic is an old one of a speedball
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Martha Dicklenedge - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 00:43:05 EST ID:eoAWcFF8 No.594746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>what are you consuming?
7.5g Red Maeng Da, .75g CBD bud, THC ejuice

>how are you consuming it?
Tea for kratom, raw papers for the CBD bud, and eleaf vape for the ejuice.

>what are you doing while on "it"?
Toonami, talking to friends, chilling, gonna jack off or something later.


Cant find any info on these by Hannah Bandleville - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 22:41:25 EST ID:pkrHUOtN No.594265 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yo so i grabbed these and they are apparently 10mg hydros but cant find any info. They dont look like pressed pills to me so im not so worried abour fentanyl but i have no idea what they are
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Wesley Paddlechedge - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 20:56:54 EST ID:bMtVxlPU No.594331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP i took them too they are hydros take them all at once or they wont do shit
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Hedda Murdspear - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 01:04:41 EST ID:v1bRBM1q No.594333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594273
>>594305
This. actual pharm grade shit is smooth.

Also the lack of numbering on the pills is a dead give away.
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shakhaZulu - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:09:33 EST ID:4Kp1KEvR No.594355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594298

>>some low quality homemade albanian ecstasy

i kekd hard
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Henry Winderstet - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 17:55:06 EST ID:GT4SvSvX No.594363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594355
lol is anyone in that pic you shaka?
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Nigel Blendertetch - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 18:50:41 EST ID:w1QduM0j No.594401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594363
Shakha is the boss nigga, you think he actually lifts heavy shit?

Fuck.
No.

Dude is off camera, sitting on a pallet wood throne getting his dick sucked by a fine babe, while he sips a pina colada and decrees who lives and who dies.

The dudes in that photo are the lucky ones, you don't wanna know what happens to the unlucky ones.
Really, you don't.


Kratom by Wesley Deddlefield - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 19:20:20 EST ID:QzfF9gtr No.593233 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm a newb to kratom, but I just ordered some and going to give it a go. The whole reason I'm trying it is because I have to stop smoking weed due to my insurance needing a clean ua in order to start treatment on my hep c. I'm an ex heroin addict, and I've been off methadone for over 6 years now with some slips but no major relapses. Since kratom is an opiate, am I playing with fire? How likely will trying kratom make me want to start slamming h again? Is it easy to avoid getting hooked/withdrawals? Can I safely use it a couple times a week without getting tempted to use every day?
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Nigel Sublingbanks - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 14:04:22 EST ID:3KbuIcHW No.594323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>593962
Holy hell, don't be a shit stained cunt like the bitch in your picture. I'm here because I don't want to use google. I'd rather discuss with fellow anons here and get their opinions on it.
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m - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 07:44:16 EST ID:9kPnaExh No.594338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594323

Don't listen to him too much. We don't really have a solid kratom thread right now, and no kratom using regulars are replying much outside the BWN.

By far the most efficient method to use kratom is to eat the powder. Teas suck because many of the alkaloids are NOT water soluble. Even if you do an an alcohol-included tea or a high fat tea, you'll get nowhere near all of it. The only added bonus for teas is that seem to hit you more quickly and have a higher peak plasma level, as the kratom plain leaf can take over an hour to hit you.

Still, tea seems like it's half as strong as eating it. You can put it in yogurt on something similar since you only have 2oz worth, or you can straight up do the "toss & wash" but I think it's absolutely fucking disgusting.

The best overall method is to buy a 00 or 000 capsule machine (with capsules obviously) and to make kratom capsules with it. You should own one of these anyways because they're useful for any drug out there (kratom capsules, kava capsules, hell even APAP overdose drug NAC filled capsules, filling AVB with capsules and some warmed up coconut oil, pre weighed MDMA/2c-b capsules for raves etc. so you don't need to risk bringing a scale, hell even microdosing/full on dosing shrooms by drying them and grinding them up in a coffee grinder to homogenize the dosing across different shroom caps/stalks, you name it).

Just don't buy the cheapist $15 24 capsule 00 cap machine, as it's glitchy as fuck and horrible quality. I've purchased 3 of them over the years, same model, and they're always been ship and never last. Try to get a solid 50 or 100 00/000 capsule machine even if it's like $40. It should last you the better part of a decade. For some reason 00 caps/machines seem infinitely more popular than 000 caps/machines, but the 000 caps are larger I believe (however that makes them more difficult to swallow). You just simply pop 2 or 3 00 caps (just 2 000 caps) in your mouth at once and take a small sip of a drink and swallow them, wait a minute or two, and repeat until your full dose is taken. This is the only reasonable way I've found to consume larger kratom doses (8-10+ gr…
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Oliver Pidgepog - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:12:15 EST ID:3GCbb5sK No.594348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594323
Well your laziness makes us think "he cba go ogling it first he can get fucked and Google it first"
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Priscilla Draffinghatch - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:13:31 EST ID:flcaVZdz No.594356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594338
The only way I like to take it is to stir or shake it in water, with some lemon juice.
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John Buddlecocke - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 15:44:16 EST ID:/uZMFAbN No.594357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you add a small amount of olive oil to kratom+water, it is easier to mix into the water and it doesn't feel as silty going down your throat. This makes toss n wash much more viable. Lemon juice helps the powdered kratom mix with the water, but it doesn't take much of the silty feeling away.


Injection by Jack Brozzlekan - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 06:41:58 EST ID:ohxSrB0E No.593817 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Did you regret taking the plunge?
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Hannah Sidgespear - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 02:16:49 EST ID:jnEkAkBb No.594312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594311

yall nerds dont realize that if you involve christianity with your degeneracy far less people will bother you, people will still hate you but they will respect your right to practice your unique cultural degeneracy that they hate so much.

Seriously you can be any gender you want and slam as much dope as you want as long as your willing to wear some linen clothes and speak in toungues at church for a minute when people are watching.

I dont know why THAT isn't more of a trend
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Hannah Sidgespear - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 02:19:30 EST ID:jnEkAkBb No.594313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594312

oh and gotta be white or the majority of practitioners have to be, too much intersectionalism will get you WACO'd
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Shitting Hoddleshaw - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 02:20:04 EST ID:L44YIVeO No.594314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594312
Yeah, fuckin' nerds.
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David Woblingnog - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 04:03:19 EST ID:flOZc7Xt No.594315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594313
rip doggos
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Jenny Mundlenadging - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 09:04:04 EST ID:Dlk9Sin0 No.594319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594313
Waco as in the church thing with guns?


Australian pst by David Bublingridge - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 04:56:43 EST ID:ATICoylO No.594277 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I know there is a poppy general but.
Now with the rescheduling of codeine I have moved onto PST.
The hoyts brand do little with a 500g wash and some brands from an Indian store do something but its barely hitting the edges.

What reccomendations to fellow aussies have ?
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Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 08:44:54 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.594282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594277
Can you not get UK seeds imported? Can get all kinds here. U.K. seeds are what you probably want. They are far more potent than Spanish and Australian. As for the local scene I don’t know if there an alternatives there with fire seeds. Just in my experience and from what I’ve read here most seeds are worthless unless from U.K. And even then it can be a gamble.
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Nathaniel Bankinman - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:30:55 EST ID:ThMC9U4b No.594297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594277
Not giving this an answer because although you ARE aware of the PST thread, you chose NOT to post in it. Your question would have been better answered in there.
nb
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Eugene Hindlefoot - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 00:48:59 EST ID:anSEFBgT No.594310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hoyts can be hit or miss. Ive had better luck with smaller supermarket chains brands.
But post a throwaway email and ill send you a link for some local online seeds


storing CWE in fridge? by Ebenezer Mocklefere - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 21:44:26 EST ID:gW4+oZ+M No.594260 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how long can you keep a finished CWE in the fridge for without it degrading/ going bad? I want to store it for later. Is 8 hours too long?
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Clara Honeydock - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 23:49:06 EST ID:flOZc7Xt No.594271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594270
storing it in the fridge*
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Gook Nukem - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 04:49:59 EST ID:5tGVui5W No.594276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594260
As long as it's cold and the water is relatively clean it should be safe for weeks. I imagine there's stearic acid in most tablets which would probably slightly ward off bacteria growth.

If you're not impatient there's added benefit to cooling low-volume CWEs overnight, theoretically the caffeine should crystallize out.
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Edward Cludgefuck - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 12:33:30 EST ID:GT4SvSvX No.594286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594276
>caffeine
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Wesley Sumblestadging - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:04:56 EST ID:YQ95sab9 No.594293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've cwe codeine and mixed it with pepsi and left it in the fridge for up to 3 days without any really noticeable degredation.
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Cyril Susslefet - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:24:39 EST ID:CQ/rdM3l No.594294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594286
well, h#3 contains a lot of caffeine so it's quite popular among opi users I believe

and yea I get the point of your post, just had to add that though


Withdrawals by William Fammleforth - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 12:40:13 EST ID:oc4REWac No.593950 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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On day 2 of h wds and lost my nerve and ended up smoking some residue i had. Will this reset the dueation of wds? Thanks
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Walter Greenlock - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 12:01:24 EST ID:UjxHoA7h No.594206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a little worried about my coming hours. What should I expect? I did 3 months of moderate daily oxycodone use, tapered down to a steady 10mg. The past 6 days went like this:
>codeine day
>codeine day
>20mg oxycodone yolo day
>120mg codeine day
>90mg codeine day
>today is day 3 without oxycodone, day 1 without opioids. My mind and pupils are going wild, I'm keeping the discomfort together with pregabalin

I haven't had a binge anywhere near 3 months before. So it's been 72 hours since my last oxycodone dose but I cheated a little bit with codeine. Will tomorrow be worse or better?
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Polly Febbernedge - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 13:58:43 EST ID:CQ/rdM3l No.594212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594206
you should be better now, with oxy and codeine wd tends to be short but intense,
and of course this is (as I understand) your first binge so you can get away with a lot, keep that in mind as next three month fun will end up in less pleasant way
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Charlotte Dommledale - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:33:43 EST ID:C+IXJ9Qz No.594216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594212
Thanks for the reply. I do feel it's settling. And yes, I'll be way more careful in the future, for now... My romantic relationship with opioids started 8 years ago, but I have next to no experience with withdrawal. I tried the easy way out of stress this winter, but the coming winters should be easier. Fucking winters.
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James Demmerdit - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:37:44 EST ID:x2C2pyGn No.594238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Op here, thanks for all advice. I dont think the 'redose' on monday reset the wd process, it actually was pretty helpful in terms of easing the mental and physical discomfort. I wasnt kicking a large habit tho, was just a decent binge, or id have tapered instead
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m - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 17:37:34 EST ID:9kPnaExh No.594254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594190

>As long as you've had a habit for long enough to develop a serious habit, relapsing at any point within withdrawal will send you back to the beginning, assuming it was enough to kill the sick.

Hmm...I guess this is one aspect where we could argue that neither the guy you're replying to nor myself are inherently wrong. I was assuming that the residue hit was nowhere near enough to effectively "kill the sick," meaning I assumed that the residue hit killed WD symptoms by less than 50%, or actually significantly less than 50%.

As heroin is not my DoC, and I've never smoked any kind of heroin or consumed BTH via any RoA, it's kind of hard to compare it to my own parallel experiences similar to basically microdosing/dosing significantly below an actual maintenance dose. It would all really depend on the total amount of residue consumed. I will, however, guess based on nothing but conjecture that "micro" (using that term loosely here) dosing via smoked H (assuming BTH), as well as "micro" dosing via IV, probably has a significantly more negative effect on withdrawal timeline rewinding/reversal than snorting/plugging simply because smoking/IV both have nearly instant come up and therefore much higher peak plasma level than an equivalent dose of snorted/plugged dope, setting aside the impact of IV on overall BA. Basically you want to avoid plasma level peaks and valleys the best you can during this process, particularly when you have previous stints of substantial dependency. It seems as if the drastic shifts in peaks and valleys seems to exacerbate the kindling effect.


expiration by Priscilla Pittbury - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 13:52:11 EST ID:7+n2uZRO No.594246 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have found a cough syrup with DHC at home but it's two months over the expiration date and it has already been opened. Can I still use it or is it dangerous?
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Polly Ponningham - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:14:53 EST ID:flOZc7Xt No.594247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594246
chug it. ive taken vicodin that expired 15years ago. pills are fine long after but syrup could have bacterial growth if not enough preservative, either way 2 months over is nothing. Even if it was a little rancid id drink it to get high
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m - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 17:03:52 EST ID:9kPnaExh No.594251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>594246

Anon is right; all pills used to get high (so excluding certain antibiotics) have basically no actual expiration date whatsoever apart from the fact that 20 year old percocet might be a few % less effective than a brand new pill of the same kind.

As for syrups, 2 months over the expiration date means basically nothing at all. If you look closely, the expiration date was likely listed as one year from the date the prescription was filled, assuming it's a prescription drug. If it's otc, chances are the expiration date is at least slightly more accurate than the arbitrary one year shelf life for Rx drugs. Still, we would have to be talking well over 1 year PAST the expiration date for otc syrups to even potentially run into a problem, and even then the chance of there being a substantial contamination risk is ridiculously slim.

>tl;dr

>Recreational pills have no effective expiration date.

>Rx syrups are likely good for 2-3 years, at the VERY least, past their supposed expiration date due to their arbitrary one year shelf life (at least in the US that's the case with Rx drugs). This includes already being opened as well.

>Otc syrups (such as yours mostly likely) are the product most likely to have an expiration date that's the most realistically close to its actual date of going bad (because, to my knowledge at least, they're labeled with an actual expiration date based off of something besides the arbitrary one year from fill date as is the case for Rx meds).

>The #1 factor is if it's already been opened, #2 is whether or not it was kept below the top temp range recommended on the bottle (especially below the top temp. recommended, so no higher than "room" temp), and #3 being whether it was kept out of direct sunlight (more so for drug quality than bacteria risk on this aspect).
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N fl heroin by ArmorC - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 20:09:47 EST ID:Z4PQQfWp No.594135 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys. Long time lurker here. I live in n florida just south of Jacksonville and normally heroin is almost non existent here, atleast to my knowledge. Well today i copped some for the first time here in florida (i used to live in tn so this isnt my first rodeo with h) and it looked totally not like it shouls have. Brown crystal on the outside, and white powder on the inside of the Crystal. So i tried and and low and behold its heroin. But ive never seen anything like it. Could anyone shed some light on this? Pic unrelated
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Sidney Dillydork - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 11:03:40 EST ID:3GCbb5sK No.594242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594228
First time I've ever heard that. It's just your personal interpretation / opinion
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Thomas de Queasy - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 13:15:28 EST ID:oomGK96h No.594245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594242
Wyut. No. Tar is much like opium, easy to smoke but not snort or bang. Monkey water is diluting the tar so you can snort water/dope. Gunpowder is tar that's either more refined by hurr durr cartels, or tar dried, crushed and powdered to look like ECO probably.

Also lol, like I'm having my own fantastical interpretation based on nothing, hahaha.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:58:48 EST ID:DtvROrcw No.594249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594245
>Gunpowder is tar that's either more refined by hurr durr cartels

is correct and then in addition to this the also treat it in a vacuume chamber with a strong desiccant to remove 99% of the water moisture from the already purified tar making it much more potent by square inch because the water is an impurity first off and second it means theres now more heroin per cubic inch of product than there was before. Its all about purity and the concentration of dope compared to the cubic volume of the dope.
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Sidney Dillydork - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 17:05:32 EST ID:3GCbb5sK No.594252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594245
Wow your retarded
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Eugene Bettingsork - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 23:55:18 EST ID:iOdFuKPP No.594307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>594252
You're


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