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How Dangerous -> Dirty Shot / Hit by Edwin Grimville - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 05:20:47 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Imagine: you get your sterile scooper. You scoop some of your ECP #4 out of your bag and are transfering it to your sterile cooker. When all of a sudden... every druggo's nightmare: SLIP WAM POW OHNO! GASP!

>Spilled Drugs

So I get a razor and scrap up everything in general area on the desk. Okay this desk surface isn't sterile[1] and I'm not actually seeing anything that I'm scraping, but I scrape all in the direction into one pile in the middle. Then to my surprise I have a nice little pile of powder. The pile is colored the same as the original drug (but that off-brown / tan is close to the desk's color.

>SO,
How risky is it to scrape this little pile into the cooker -> dissolve -> inject?
Is there ANY amount of boiling and filtering[2] that would make it "as safe as" all my normally-done shots that aren't spilled?


  1. Lesson learned (that I knew I shouldve been doing): create a temporary sterile surface for your IV antics. For instance, flip to a new page in a spiral notebook, or grab a new clean blank sheet of paper and lay it down. This'll catch any spilled things and the contrast of the white paper & colored-drug makes it easy to see.

2. No luer-lock micron unfortunately. Just little cotton filters + 30g's.
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Jarvis Sarrytitch - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 08:41:54 EST ID:Od/CKAN5 No.581923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581920
its risky but its been done before without issue, but repeated use is absolutely stupid. Of course it isjust a one off.

Consider plugging it
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Thomas de Queasy - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 11:50:07 EST ID:Z6HMlt5H No.581935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can go ahead, if you have sterifilts or wheels just do that. If you don't maybe use two cottons just to be sure, yeah?

Also, the best sterile surface I've personally tried and still use is a book with a hard cover. I just wipe it with alcohol after every use/before if it has been a while and it's gotten dusty. It's practical because it should be covered in a thin layer of smooth plastic so things don't get ingrained as they would on paper. That also means you lose almost nothing should you be faced with a cooker olympics ski jump.


Why Opi Nausea? by Cornelius Bardspear - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 16:52:21 EST ID:kBdCbCB7 No.581710 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Consider this:
>Opioids activate endogenous endorphin receptor sites
>our endogenous endorphins don't make us throw up
>Opioids can make you throw up
Do you see the problem here?!

Athiests: 0

lol but really, what gives?
I also notice that Tar does it more so than #4.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:02:34 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.581762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581761
>be gay retard baby
>cannot understand satire
oh gee who would have thought
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 21:21:40 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.581779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581754
i wasnt trying to say it only has those receptors i was highlighting those ones since theyre relevant. That was a good explanation of how that system works though, i actually wasnt confused how you thought i just didnt have a good enough understanding of how the system was being affected and then how it was reacting/activating. i get how those other meds work too. so yah i think we're on the same page. good explanation though for reals thanks for that.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:21:52 EST ID:q69KFFVM No.581791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581762
His brain is fucking fried from cannabis spores. Leave him to it, he's addled.
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Esther Biddlestat - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 17:35:19 EST ID:KHARyJvV No.581830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>our endogenous endorphins don't make us throw up
wrong
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Sophie Soffingfoot - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 03:52:40 EST ID:5XdGNhXS No.581918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
do a heavy leg workout and tell me all about how endorphins can't make you throw up


Tolerance by Shitting Sannerstore - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 20:30:20 EST ID:iVtQ3HeV No.581772 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long does it take to get your tolerance back down if you go totally sober?
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Hedda Favingmurk - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 03:49:06 EST ID:iVtQ3HeV No.581882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581869 how much were you doing? I was smoking it a few times a month and it fucked my tolerance up. Now I can't get heroin so I'm forced back to pills.
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Martha Bonderfet - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 11:15:18 EST ID:hQWd1M57 No.581890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was strung out for about 7 years. Mostly just smoking, and occasionally banging brown gear. I was also taking methadone on the days I couldn't afford to score, so I got a bit strung out on that as well, and ended up with a double habit. Eventually tapered down on methadone over a year to 5ml. About 3 months after getting completely clean, I was able to have a smoke again and not be sick at all the next day.

That was 3 years ago. Since then, I've been using every few weeks. I might go on a binge for a few days every now and then. I find I get strung out very quickly now though.

Haven't been on this forum for a while, but I'm using Lyrics (Pregbalin) for mild withdrawal symptoms with great success after these binges.
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JJzz !5hfy9xPj32 - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 14:07:51 EST ID:ANal637J No.581894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Personally, I've found that theres somewhat of a "tipping point" of sorts with my tolerance. For example, the first time I tried heroin, I was already doing 60+mg of oxy or 10-15mg of opana pretty regularly, and I got FUCKED up from not even a quarter of a very small bag. However, after using H and PST for about a year each with about 18 months of clean time in between, I've found that I've never been able to truly get off on anything less than one bag, and if I really want to get high, I have to IV it, which I'd only started doing this year.

Also, after using PST averaging 8-12oz per day, I've found that I can no longer catch a proper buzz on my scripted tramadol unless I take ridiculous amounts (600+mg) in conjunction with benzos and booze. Previously, even when I was snorting 5+ bags of dope a day, I could get high as fuck on 3-400mg tramadol, moreso than even 60mg hydrocodone or 40mg oxy
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 15:01:40 EST ID:vpK5g/6n No.581895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581772
Unfortunately it doesn't seem to quite work like that.

While sobriety is the second best thing for tolerance, by far the best thing is not developing a tolerance in the first place.

I used rx opis for 7 years off and on, totalling maybe 5g oxy/hydro or less. During all seven years tolerance just wasn't a problem- sure it didn't feel like the third time ever being opi on oxy/hydro, cuddling in bed with my fellow 16yo gf at 3am on a Tuesday morning sneaking in her house anymore, BUT euphoria was never a problem. How is the 9 millionth dose of hydroc or morphine supposed to compare to the first time snorting hydromorphone and having sex? The nostalgia feeling was gone but the euphoria/tolerance left later.

The use pattern was probably 2-5x a month for 3-6mo spurts (doses like 15-40mg oxy IR or say 30mg hydrocodone) then another 3-4mo with just xanax, maybe two random opi doses during winter break/occasional field trip, and not hitting the opi and sauce hard until Summer (weekly, sometimes weekend warrior, vicodins).

Guess What? dosing 66%+ of all days with PST per year, even using low doses like 2 and 4oz, for just maybe 3 months and my tolerance was fucked. Even 25% of days will do it.

What can you do now? Try to go sober for a while and then chip responsibly. Personally my dose usage is 20% of what it was 3 months ago, and dosing high as fuck still doesn't have much magic.

I fear the only real answer is a 3-6mo break clean off either all opis or sparing plain leaf kratom use. Then, attempt a reasonable dose of say 8oz PST. If that doesn't work effectively, wait 3-4+ weeks and dose again but like 2lb.You'll basically be fried from how high you are. You MUST key usage at at least every 2 weeks to really get good rushes and nods. Sure it's more on your tolerance with 2lb, but the key is frequency.
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Cedric Mettingnedge - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:49:03 EST ID:/s8+n4mz No.581906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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endorphins regulate life. who we are, how we feel, our reactions, energy, etc. when you become physically dependant on opi, opioids replace our natural endorphins. so if you're used to 30mg oxy/day your body fthinks that's normal and lives around that. if that person gets used to 80mg/day that becomes normal, even with tolerance where you don't feel much different, the level of opiates in system have different effects. when you get used to living with a higher amount, its hard to live the same way with less. having more opiates in your system allows us to do stuff we couldn't do without or with lower levels. if you can't accept you will be different on a lower dose, its hard to taper down and stabilize on less. there's also the compulsive redose aspect where we want more that makes us feel good and alive but that's an ocd issue, not an "addiction disease"


I jsut gstock 60MG of vicondin no tolearnatnce AND I FEEL FUNY by Fuck Neddlehall - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:20:01 EST ID:XhyC6AVA No.581836 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I tdarnk a bit too but I edadint take a benzo aso that's good.

what's uap thiwth that?





tla;dr no toelarnce
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Bombastus Werrywag - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 01:38:55 EST ID:3hyguWXd No.581876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581874
I still say that I have yet to hear of anyone overdosing on oral opiates by itself or oral benzos by itself. Drinking heavily, sure. But one two drinks and oral consumption of opiates haven't really killed people.
It'd make you nausous as hell, of course. But that's just the body's way of poison control.
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Eliza Blatherhood - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 03:40:47 EST ID:/zSfU4TW No.581881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581876
Yeah, but the other post from this guy says he's on daily benzos. I don't know how much tolerance comes into it, but I'm pretty sure it's still a factor.
nb
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Phyllis Trotworth - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 20:45:45 EST ID:BtngvO4g No.581903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581866
Op here I'm still still alive. I'm out of town. I did not take my benzo but my typing was definitely effected.

Should have stayed on irc longer; quetza god bless.


I rate the experience 4\10
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Cedric Mettingnedge - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:37:29 EST ID:/s8+n4mz No.581904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581876
new opi is filled with overly cautious autistic babies
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Bombastus Werrywag - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 17:22:40 EST ID:+f5+Ddsi No.581949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581904
Nibba it's always been like that with the "how many 500mg vicydins can SWIM's three eyed goldfish take within the period of 10 days?".

nb


Is Kratom addictive? by Matilda Suzzleshaw - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:15:10 EST ID:VrCXSHAX No.581763 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I ended up with 250 kratom capsules and I've taken about 50+, over the course of 4 days. I was wondering if I could get addicted and how much and how often I would need to take to get addicted? Simple question that's probably been asked too many times, but there's very little info on the matter and this shit is dope and I love getting high on it daily and would like to know more. Also, any cool shit to do with it, please tell me! I am a Kratom/opiate noob.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:06:51 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.581818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581817
oh and as far as strains go:

>white
energetic

>green
euphoric, can be energetic or sedating

>red
sedating, usually not as euphoric

>yellow (less common)
a mix all over the place, anywhere from euphoric to sedating to energetic to a mix of all three
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Cornelius Fissleshit - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 20:55:41 EST ID:VrCXSHAX No.581845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>581817
>>581818
Thank you so much for this info.
Thanks for the sources. I remember when I first heard about kratom, it was available from everywhere, even major retailers like amazon. Now, it's kind of sketchy the websites.
All of this helped a lot and answered many of my miscellaneous questions.
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George Fammlewock - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 21:15:12 EST ID:vEFxusyE No.581849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Personal experience with becoming addicted to and getting withdrawal from kratom.

Yes it is addictive. Maybe a little more addictive than caffeine.
It took me taking it for quite a while to become physically addicted to it though. It took a half oz-an oz a day habit over the course of 6 months for me to start seeing signs of withdrawal.
But there are a lot of factors, and one of them is which strain and how potent it is that you're using. Lately I've been taking a lot of yellows whites and greens. They're not ass addictive (for me) as reds. I was an opiate addict before this, so I'm predisposed to get more addicted to the strains that are more like opiates. I had a very strong red strain that I was on for a couple months and when that ran out I felt really bad. When I take whites or greens for a while, I don't get anywhere near as bad. I'm just a little anxious.
The withdrawal is like opiate withdrawal divided by 5. It's not very intense, but it still does kinda suck. It's like a dull ache if opiate withdrawal is a sharp pain. Which is far better, but still does kinda suck.

Yeah it's addictive, but you've gotta take a lot of it for a long time to really get addicted. But if you're coming right off an opiate addiction, you'll become physically addicted faster.
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Martin Dishbit - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 00:49:18 EST ID:ya6io+18 No.581870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I took kratom every day for a few weeks and when I stopped my pupils got huge so I'd say I was getting WD from it. Mfw going to work until midnight with those symptoms
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Barnaby Greenworth - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 07:33:16 EST ID:kwkg75Vf No.581889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm taking it for like 7 years in an alternating scheme of one week daily consume (up to 10 g) and the following week without any kratom.

After a while it gets highly addictive on a psychological level, because it makes everything you do more enjoyable.

Rule #1 for every opiate: You just buy the feelgood time from your own future. For every second you enjoy while high, you'll feel the same amount of time miserable after the high wears off.

Rule #2: In the beginning the high outshines the negative side effects. But after some time the negative side overturns most of the positive moments of being high.

Rule #3: Don't even start when you've never done opiates.


How much hydrocodone? by Hannah Donderforth - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 19:57:19 EST ID:XhyC6AVA No.581771 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much hydrocodone can I take with Xanax without dying?


Also, does benzos with opiates feel better than just opiates alone.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 12:16:59 EST ID:F5HmbHQj No.581819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581800
I agree that it depends on tolerance. I used to think benzos killed euphoria pretty hard with opi and even weed. Then once I got a tolerance for opiates and started using different types of benzos (I had only used xanax and valium which areally arguably the least euphoric of all benzos) I noticed it acruelly increased euphoric or just added to the experience in a positive way without hindering euphoria. I find clonazapem to be the best, even by itself it's kind of euphoric.

A lot of people also write off benzos after trying alprazolam and assume they all feel similar. I can easily see why people think benzos rip the euphoria away. There's too many variables to really give a definitive answer but in general it's tolerance plus a lack of experience with benzos.
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Fuck Neddlehall - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:06:04 EST ID:XhyC6AVA No.581833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581819
alright forget it. honestly I take a benzo everyday so it's not like I will feel the effects of not having I for a 1-3 day after many years of psychiatric therapy in which I've taken it everyday.

still though, do opiates just not have a zing to them anymore because of my psychiatrically prescribed benzos? did that dull my opiate receptors or something?
I haven't even taken opiates since I fractured my toe 2 years ago and that was 3 day of tramadol.

I took 15 mg of hydrocodone yesterday and nothing, 28mg of hydrocodone today and nothing until I drank a few beers. Dude I bet I could take 80mg of hydrocodone FUCK IT
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Walter Webberbanks - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:10:57 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>581771
cicadas!
making that hellish sound from the trees. .. aaaahhhhh flashbacks
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Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 18:33:08 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.581838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581833
oh christ dude you just made that thread didn't you? well I hope you're happy now, I thought you said you didn't take a benzo with the HC?

it dulls the euphoria for some people yeah, you might be one of those types. Hydrocodone is especially subtle out of all the opioids I've done. If you take a benzo everyday it can still potentiate with opiates, so 80mg would be foolish to take with no tolerance.

Maybe try taking a day off the benzos and then try to take the hydro? Benzos also have that tendency to delude you from how high you are, so you might be saying that you didn't feel anything when in fact you just couldn't tell. That's another reason why they're so dangerous in combination with opioids besides also being a literal potentiator (1+1=5 rule). Be careful man.
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George Fammlewock - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 23:41:00 EST ID:vEFxusyE No.581859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>581835
I live in Texas, and all day during the summer and especially at night I hear those Cicadas buzzing.
I was thinking about it earlier. Normally I don't even notice it. It's just there. But I bet if I moved somewhere else I would really miss that sound. It's kinda endearing after you're used to it. I bet to people who aren't used to it that it's really strange.

Off topic nb


Risks of boiling cotton in cooker? by Walter Webberbanks - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 02:51:02 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581801 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, using cotton as a filter carries the inherent risk of having a tiny strand of cotton getting into --> the needle barrel --> then into your blood stream = uh-oh.

Okay but refer to the scenario illiustrated in Figure 1.
Does boiling the heroin solution WITH the piece of cotton already in it beforehand INCREASE the risk ^ above (about the whole --> bloodstream cotton thing), OR does it make it safer by sterilizing the cotton cause boiling it and whatnot?

I know I should be using leur=lock micron filters, but cmon who's going to pay for that?

>P.S.:
What cotton is safest?
a) little bit from a cotton ball, all sqeieiezed up
b) ripped off end of a Q-tip
c) other? (please advise)
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Shitting Sannerstore - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 03:58:14 EST ID:iVtQ3HeV No.581804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>581802 kek
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:28:35 EST ID:q69KFFVM No.581805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
afaik cotton fever isn't from cotton but rather just a contaminants like germs and shit. We call it a dirty, a dirty hit or a dirty taste here.
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Walter Webberbanks - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:35:34 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581803
i made it as clear as hgumanly possible saint nick
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Walter Webberbanks - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:35:35 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581803
i made it as clear as hgumanly possible saint nick
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Walter Webberbanks - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 05:36:52 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.581808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>581807
why did 420chan allow me to do to to td that. stupid spam filter or lack thereof. NB


BAD DECISIONS by Archie Billingstone - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:44:35 EST ID:Dkwcwmrq No.581765 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so i live in a halfway house and get drug tested 2x a week with the possibility of randoms (these are rare tho) just took my 2nd test for the week and am about to do some heroin. this will give me almost 5 full days to flush it out of my system, i havent used in months and according to my math i should be in the clear and also have some clean urine in the fridge, prob also going to buy some certo also just incase i get randomed , how fucked do you think i am?
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:48:38 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.581770 Report Quick Reply
>>581765
Don't do the drugs until you aren't being tested anymore. In fact, stop doing drugs you tard you're in a halfway house. Get your shit together, you're fighting the actual hard part now. If a few weeks you'll think about it less. Also, get rid of the dope you can't be around that shit.
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Nicholas Honeyman - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:17:30 EST ID:bEdk2Mvv No.581789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581770
yeah like, you probably won't listen but as far as advice goes, don't do it. nb
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 00:20:18 EST ID:q69KFFVM No.581790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581770
Wasted breath. Dudes already decided he's doing it. Op drink tons of water around the clock. Depending on what types of test your doing, if it's a dipstick type, like with the paper strip in the cup, you'll be kosher. If it's a labtest that checks for creatin. Well you're fucked bud. Buy some piss or get some from your brother or sister or some friend.
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Fuck Neddlehall - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 01:39:32 EST ID:XhyC6AVA No.581799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581765
>He can't keep getting away with it
That's what all them are going to be saying to each other as eventually you are tossed out. I suggest making a /qq/ thread next as grief is surely next in line if you don't OD and die. Heh, jk. Kinda.


Constricted pupils 24 hours after dosage by Edwin Cobblekare - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:51:04 EST ID:J3CfRMG7 No.581759 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/opi/ naive here, got some cough medicine from my doctor a couple of days ago. Its called Cosylan and contains 1.7 mg of ethylmorphine per ml. Last night I took three shots, 45 ml, to get a good buzz with my weed. However, now almost 24 hours later my pupils are still constricted and I feel kind of woozy. AFAIK ethylmorphine is a little tiny bit more potent than codeine which I am more familiar with, but shouldn't my pupils go back to normal after 24 hours? Also I still feel a subtle buzz kind of tired I guess.
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Fucking Bunstock - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 22:09:08 EST ID:WVOOgvW4 No.581781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581759
opiate 'after effects' can sometimes linger on for a bit, having said that it looks like ethylmorphine isn't really that strong nor is it meant to last that long. i mean either way you're fine, probably more so in your head.


Tapering. by Fuck Gickleville - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:39:22 EST ID:n+8yMgN4 No.581764 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /opi/ quick question....

I'm a complete baby when it comes to PAWS and I've been using about .3 of black tar everyday for 2 weeks tomorrow.
I know this isn't severe but it's enough to make me not want to get out of bed for 3-4 days.

I have 20 10mg hydrocodone pills and I was interested in doing a taper to get all the morphine out of my system. I'm under the impression that if I take minimum doses for a few days then my wds will be a lot milder.

Thoughts? Suggestions?

Pic related, it's my last shot for in the morning.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:59:41 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.581767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581764
what you said is correct, if you want to properly taper and mitigate most WD symptoms (you say PAWS but it sounds like you're going to deal with acute WD and the PAWS afterwards so), then I suggest waiting until you start to feel the onset of WD, then start taking the hydrocodone in small increments (5 mg at a time, wait 45 min in between each dose) until you feel the WD symptoms going away. For conversations sake lets say it takes you 10mg for it to go away.

So after finding out the right dosage, and since HC has a pretty short half-life, you will have to more than likely redose again after approximately 8-10 hours. Once you reach this point, I would crush the 10mg pill and weight it out then remove 10% of the weight (or less, depending how long your stash of HC will last) and take what is left. This might be a little too rapid but you're also limited since you have 20 of these pills and it might take more than 10mg to relieve your WD. So to be safe, I would drop it by 5-10% or about 1mg of equivalent weight in HC each time you dose. In a week, you should be taking about 2-3mg of HC to stay well.

After that, you can either:

a) continue to taper if you have the pills to do so until you're down to an insignificant amount of hydrocodone
b) stop at the sub-threshold dose of HC and cold turkey from that. It should be very, very mild if anything at all.

Now, I don't know how to judge your tolerance as quality in tar can range pretty widely but this may or may not work for you since for all I know it could take you 30mg of hydrocodone to get well. Which in that case you will have to adjust the numbers accordingly for a more rapid taper. A more rapid taper will also give worse WD symptoms.

NOW, for PAWS, before you even start to taper I would go ahead and order a quarter kilo of kratom before anything. After your taper you can take kratom in 4-5 gram doses and for most people, it will get rid of cravings and most of the ailments of PAWS. Stay at low doses and you will not have to worry about getting off kratom (even high doses, 15 g a day leaves very mild WD symptoms, at least for me).
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Fuck Gickleville - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:25:44 EST ID:n+8yMgN4 No.581768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581767

Thanks for your input. Yea I thought paws was the acute wds but I was mistaken. Thanks again.
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Basil Firringwill - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:44:30 EST ID:KHARyJvV No.581769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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its takes years or least many months of heavy use for paws. ldn will cure paws but you dont need to worry.

Take as least hc as you can, go long as you can between doses. mainly use it stay alive for the 3 days of acute h w/d. if you make it through that then kicking the hydro will be nothing. imodium/loperamide are amazing for w/d as well, otc opiate that works on stomach opi receptors but not brain/high receptors so it will take away physical w/d while you go through mental w/d in physical comfort

try to get some cardio, walk as much as you can.

btw dont let your shots sit overnight, bacteria will grow and heroin will degrade into boring old morphine if it sits in water


Price for Meth? by Eliza Nennerbanks - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:45:51 EST ID:kBdCbCB7 No.581749 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey what do you guys value the methadone to be? What $$ for how many mg?

mephedrone methyldone methadone mebroqualone (and meth) = good combo fun for the whole family
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:08:37 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.581752 Report Quick Reply
>>581749
What drug are you even asking for? Meth? Methadone? They're two different drugs.

I used to pay a quarter a mg of methadone.


ORC :< by triggerbitch - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:35:58 EST ID:u5ES3PXJ No.581723 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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RIP ORC.

you fuckers broke the first rule
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 00:02:56 EST ID:q69KFFVM No.581733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581732
Oh, this is a darknet marketplace or something? I'd imagine it's only a minor setback in the overall scheme of things, another will take its place (if it hasn't already).
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Basil Firringwill - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 02:56:54 EST ID:KHARyJvV No.581739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581723
if a bunch of kids can find it, so can the law
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 04:08:09 EST ID:q69KFFVM No.581742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581739
yes, with these things (the internet + drugs in general I guess kinda) the chance of getting fucked by the limp & sad dick of prohibition law tends to depend on whether the enforcer can actually be bothered with a bust or similar arrest/cease&desist; assigning all the resources and taxpayer money required etc etc. If you as your average dumbass internet drug user can easily find a marketplace/dealer/vendor then consider it at least monitored by default. But who cares? Gladly drug users outnumber drug law enforcement officers by a massive amount (obviously) so 99% of access will always slip through unheeded. People will always find a way to access their drugs of choice. Supply and demand - and the demand in this case is massive and shows no sign of slowing up.
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Simon Burryworth - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 13:52:52 EST ID:iVtQ3HeV No.581751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My secret internet drug buying club is gone. Wahhhhhhhhhhhh

Hit the streets like the rest of us, and bring hard cash not that crypto-currency shit.
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Alice Brucklemid - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:12:22 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.581940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>581751
ORC = opiate roll call right? That thing was fucking retarded to begin with. It's not even a crypto-currency thing, it was just like a list of dealers in your area. Retarded.
nb


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