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Done Clin by Esther Gedgefark - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:47:05 EST ID:jEdGbRBb No.587545 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the fuck do I have to say to get approved for methadone treatment?
I'm willing to lie my ass off.
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MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:17:14 EST ID:1VxigF45 No.587960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>587951
>I could pick these numbers apart.

Now this I want to see!
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Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 18:21:19 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587951
uh dude, no one is saying fent doesn't make heroin more deadly. again you've totally missed the point of my post (which took no stance on any issue. the only point of my post was that you were making strong claims without the experience to back them up, and that you should either talk about things you actually know or post some legit data), which you only now decided to read. look at your response again, none of the things in that post had anything to do with my post.

either you read it and ignored it to make whatever point you were trying to make (heroin is dangerous? uh yeah no shit), or you didn't really read it until now but still somehow managed to miss the point of what I said, it doesn't really matter.

since you either didn't read it or just want to ignore it to make your point, I'll quote the important parts here for you
>the danger of cuts is real and should be discussed
>you have no real experience or data [posted to this thread, if it wasn't clear. I was making no claims as to whether any data existed, only that you had not brought any] to back up these massive, sweeping claims you're making

by the way, the issue is how common dangerously cut heroin is. of course fent is more dangerous than dope, and of course dope laced with fent is more dangerous than plain dope, neither point was ever in contention. additionally, I'd really like to see what research or statistics brought you to your conclusion that that fent-pressed pills are so common and hard to identify.

>I'm sorry I'm so tired of shifting through data that I often can't be bothered. I'm burnt out.
that's completely fair, I don't blame you for not wanting to basically work for free. at the same time, that isn't a free pass to make any claims you want and getting haughty when someone calls you on it. do you get that? that's been my point from the start. you can either do the research, frame your statement in the context of your experience, or post your claims as what they are, claims, not facts.

additionally, if you're going to continue perhaps it would be better to make your own thread?
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Dr. M - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 22:29:32 EST ID:jNhGDmFZ No.587997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587972

I guess I just don't realistically understand what you want from me.

No I don't have experience ODing from fentanyl. If I did I wouldn't be here.

Go on circlejerk and look at all the fake Opi pills. Quantitative research will never give us the statistics we want on this due to the nature of the beast we are studying.

As for personal experience, as Nodson my friend. That dude gets fake 30s like 80% of the time.

I saw all of your points. Yes I know our experience with H is similar.

Your point was use facts or experience or GTFO, and I'm telling you that the facts are too convoluted for our purposes. I don't have personal experience because I made promises to people I love and they can't really handle me dying on a Wednesday night for science.

I respect your points and general position. You don't like my general vibe of "this is how it is folks cuz I said so," and that's totally fine and reasonable. We need people like you here.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 01:11:44 EST ID:RCZYnhfr No.588005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587654
Please think about what you're saying with that kind of generalised statement about an entire continent's drug scene. Just because you've dipped your toes into the scene doesn't mean you can say stuff like that with confidence. For one thing, where do you think the heroin that people sell on the darknet comes from? Their local scene. They're off the same bricks of heroin that's imported into the country and sold down the chain to the street. Darknet sellers don't have magically unique direct connections to uncut bricks of heroin lol. They're considered small-time as you can see by the quantities they deal in. That fact alone should tell you that it's plain disingenuous to claim that you're guaranteed to be using shitty fentanyl-filled gear if you use heroin.
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Oliver Nurrykack - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:11:27 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.588046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>588005
well there are many reports throughout the states that most batches of heroin are cut with fents. few people will have a dealer that only pushes fent free dope


Youngfags in love with the poppy by Nathaniel Lightfuck - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:56:51 EST ID:toNTkg5w No.586327 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I wonder if there are a lot of young opioid users here.
21 and have been on and off the conventional opioids for about 2 years.(morph,oxycodone,tramadol).
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Cyril Borrydale - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 16:59:07 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587583
... :(
I can't even score oxy atm.
I miss binging and passing the fuck out in the sofa.
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Lillian Sunninghat - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:37:18 EST ID:ZtEeEstv No.587885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587618
It's still about that strong for me atm because I haven't had cash in like 2 months and I'm really struggling atm but when I get it, it hits almost like that first time minus I'd say ~20% strength.

I just miss how long it used to last, back then I'd be high for at least 4 hours but now I could easily do another shot after 2 hours
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Samuel Drullydale - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:27:06 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.587887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587618
It's still just as strong, assuming you take multiple times the amount you used to.
IME anyway
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Rebecca Shittingford - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 09:03:38 EST ID:OyB2kD9T No.587943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>586327

Started with oxys 80s at 16 was shooting dope not even a year later, 25 now in a methadone clinic, I wish I was younger, would of liked to correct my bullshit selfpitying delusional self.
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Fanny Mivingshit - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:32:56 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>587943
Eh self pity is a beast, I guess I'm happy that I know that this is a drug with which I'll have interaction for the rest of my life, that way I've avoided the whole ''I won't get addicted im better than this" and I don't dose more than 2 or 3 times a week, psychologically I know it has taken hold in my mind so sucking up the small withdrawals you get throught the week.
I wish you well bro, I'm pretty high right now so this might not make sense.


Research Chems by Angus Drublingway - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:40:14 EST ID:KcJQeKgs No.587838 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was recently introduced to the world of RCs. A couple opiod - like chems that seem to be popular currently are o-desmethyltramadol and MAF (methoxy-acetyl-fentanyl). Anyone have any experience with these? I was once addicted to fentanyl so my tolerance is very high. Was mostly wondering what a good starting dose is for the MAF. Already have some MAF on the way, and while I will be very careful, it would still be nice to have some insight going into it.
I am also quite interested in trying the o-desmethyltramadol (prodrug to tramadol, much lower siezure risk, 80% strength morphine) so was hoping someone might have some experiences to report on that as well.
I will report back with my own experiences with the MAF in a few days hopefully. On that note, any insights or experiences with these chemicals are greatly welcomed.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 16:08:29 EST ID:ThEay7Iz No.587908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587897
isnt o dsmt just the active main metabolite of tramadol?
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Jenny Drodgeham - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:26:35 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587908
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Sophie Follyridge - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 23:43:45 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.587925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587908
Yeah, it's the major one IIRC, but tramdol is active in and of itself and (far) more potent as an SNRI.
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Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:12:43 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587924
my b, hit submit post on accident trying to scroll

o-dsmt is AN active metabolite of tramadol but tramadol has other metabolites as well (in addition to the obvious N-DSMT, which is not active in opiate receptors but is metabolized into O-DSMT, further complicating tramadol's already fucky pharmacokinetics). Tramadol has 5 different metabolites, each of which has its own metabolites, which combined with the kinetics of its metabolization through various P450 enzymes make it different enough from O-DSMT that I'd say calling it "just tramadol's main active metabolite", while technically true, is a little reductive given their differing effect profiles.

O-DSMT is not an SRI (although its - enantiomor (I know I fucked that spelling but you know what I mean) is still a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor). It is also a much much more potent agonist (something like five hundred times the affinity of tramadol and efficacy equal to morphine. All that, along with the fact that you are not relying on P450 enzymes for metabolization and thus don't have to worry about a "ceiling effect" or any of the other messiness that brings, makes it a somewhat different beast pharmacodynamically. It's obviously similar in effect to tramadol but the lack of SRI effects and the huge increase in strength give it enough of a different flavor in my opinion.
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Augustus Chandlepadging - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 05:21:23 EST ID:FsPvJ5ZR No.587938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587927
now that's kind of reply I've been expecting, thanks man


Theophrastus Werrywag by Opiate Nausea - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 15:52:51 EST ID:sdoM04jx No.587725 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tips and tricks out opiate nausea and how to deal with it?

Past the normal remedies like ginger tea and benadryl. That stuff has little to no effect on me. People also say gravol and other basic OTC drugs but I've taken all of that and still have projectile vomit at the toilet. Apparently ondesetron doesn't actually work for opiate based nausea so that's a even bigger disappointment.

Any piece of food that enters my mouth gets immediately vomited out within 15 minutes. Starting to get really dehydrated too.
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Bombastus Werrywag - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:01:02 EST ID:gFtE1ryS No.587832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587745
Are you sure stomach viruses shouldn't be purged?

>>587768
Lmao whoops. I read "weed" nowadays and get distracted and ignore most of it. Plus the most I took out of his message was the "dude stop doing such high doses" which I wholeheartedly agree with. This dosage was FUCKED.

Anyway, gonna go emphasize 420 now. Thanks, guys.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:34:18 EST ID:FCG+1HPm No.587859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587832
glad to hear you seem to have gotten the puking seemingly as under-control as it can be.
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Sidney Grimway - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:54:43 EST ID:p5YRMY04 No.587860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also DRAMAMINE
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Barnaby Hummerdock - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 12:37:40 EST ID:vEFxusyE No.587895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never really had opiate nausea unless I really over do it.

Have you tried smoothies/shakes to get some food in you?
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Bombastus Werrywag - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 18:45:13 EST ID:ezlaoK9a No.587916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587895
watermelon and strawberries were the only thing i could keep down

ate a lot of those to keep me hydrated


Best z-drug to use to possibly start a nod?With methadone only by Isabella Blirryshit - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:10:19 EST ID:ObQuZupO No.587835 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm currently in a drug program. I've been clean for 6 months now but i would like to beable to get a nod on if the methadone im taking is potentiated what drugs that are non narcotic will help me? ambien? im on currently 80mg but i can get asmuch methadone as i want but ive taken 600mg and i just felt normal.
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Esther Farringketch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 03:53:11 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.587845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587835
Wait until you are in WD to dose, I know this increases the effects of stuff. Done is gonna make your tolly crazy high unfortunately.
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Lillian Gimblepeg - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:04:09 EST ID:E0MOwXYJ No.587862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
needs to drinks some white grapefruit juice
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Phyllis Pittwell - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:53:01 EST ID:3pMfytGG No.587906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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600-1000mg cimitidine and 10-20mg lope to fill your gullet


NALT THREAD by Alice Dedgespear - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 18:49:17 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587374 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ULDN, LDN, ect. thread

I keep seeing people post about this, what's the deal?
is there a good wiki/faq post breaking it down?
I've googled for a bit but it just came up with some speculation on blue light and related sites.

If anyone here knows anything about this, please fill me in!!

I'm currently taking dxm and calcium to reduce tolerance, sometimes cycling in agmatine and hopefully getting some mematine or w/e soon.
Nalt obviously has a different mechanism of tolerance reversal than NMDA antagonists and the like, how's it all work? Basically any info on the subject would be appreciated, especially any links to papers on the subject. thanks for reading and may your nods be long and happy
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Charles Wandlelodge - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 06:38:06 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587422
calcium also helps (according to the research, I've only recently added it). I'm not sure if these things have a cumulative effect or the benefits cap out at quickly or how dose dependent it is or what, there's a lot that has yet to be explored research wise. I've also found ketamine and related drugs pretty effective but I feel like tripping on K every day is probably super bad for you (or at least for your wallet). love that shit though, so weird.

my dose has gone up and down but it's currently less than twice what I started with, and that's with everyday use (although I don't always try to get high, sometimes I just take a maintenance dose. for a while it was 4-5 days high, 2-3 maint. per week about). Sometimes I get lazy and fall off for a few weeks on the tolerance stuff and it'll rise fairly quick again but when I stay on it, it's decently effective at keeping things from getting too out of control.

I'd really recommend sticking to infrequent use though, no matter what you do you can't really get high all the time without getting into heroic dosages. I dunno your history but in case you haven't been there, dependence sucks if for no other reason than you're putting yourself on a fairly short clock, where any setback on supply can end up with you sick as hell.
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Hamilton Brookworth - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 18:46:42 EST ID:UVNTR8QP No.587677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587454
My history of use, at its worst, was being pretty severely addicted to fentanyl. I cold turkeyed and made it through somehow after almost 14 days of agony. But yes I will continue my infrequent use. It has to remain infrequent as I can easily take down a quarter g of #4 in a night if I wanted (insuffulated). And thats after not doing any opioids for a week+. Simply too expensive to dose daily. Thanks for the advice though will definitely take it into consideration the calcium.
1 other quick question- what is the daily amount of dxm I should be taking? Just 1 regular dose that it recommends per day or what?
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Polly Widdleforth - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 00:30:21 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.587697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587415
no guarantees uldn works with kratom as kratom has antagonists as well, iirc
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Eugene Cenningworth - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 13:18:13 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587677
well it is dose dependent (apparently? it seems to be in my experience but there's still so much I don't know. what I wouldn't give for a cool 1mill in research grants) but at the same time you probably don't want to trip dxm all day every day so I'd say 30-60mgs (this is below my threshold for dxm. more than this and I start to feel the dxm itself).

Also, this effect isn't limited to DXM, most (all?) NMDA antagonists have this effect so if you ever feel like tripping on K or one of it's many cousins, you get that added bonus.
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Jenny Drodgeham - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:58:47 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587896
btw everyone I'm in the process of sourcing some Nalt, once it's here I'll start experimenting and share my experience here. planning on taking fairly in depth notes (compared to my usual drug fueled ramblings. or more accurately, along with my usual drug fueled ramblings


BWN by nz !!vVWR8L52 - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 03:16:00 EST ID:lHqYb4+d No.585434 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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BWN

May ye bags be filled to thy brim and a pox on those who choose to administer false adulterants unto thee

Bump of a speedball with nice pure local H
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 23:23:57 EST ID:8Gks/2Y/ No.587889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BWN/BWS

Ofc the honest cool dope dealer I have is thinking of quitting because people ripped him off now he has to play catch up. I know one of the girls who did it too... fucking way to ruin it for everyone! Im making sure to get him custos and help fix his situation so he doesn't quit. Im sick of dealing with paranoid black people who wanna tell me grey dope isn't fent and that he'll "take me to class" and show me how the tan shit is the same as they grey shit... fucking dumbass. I made him give me another pack for free cuz that grey shit was trash.

>>587868
I had a blast gettin high as fuck in a fancy hotel room on the 60th floor of the Renn Cen with weeaboo shit everywhere as you can imagine! Even tho i t was last min and Team Four Star didn't show it was probably the best con I ever been to ever. Are you on the /opi/ steam group? Join the /stim/ one ( /geeteredgamers/ ) and add my steam yo.
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press !XIxc6BpKnU - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 15:19:56 EST ID:ThEay7Iz No.587900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whats this
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Aureolus Werrywag - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 21:27:04 EST ID:ezlaoK9a No.587993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587900
what is it?
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Stanko - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:25:58 EST ID:uKDXWCE6 No.588270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJ1rDgf5DsA
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Stanko - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:28:38 EST ID:uKDXWCE6 No.588271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>588270


Have i ruined my tolerance permanently? by Thomas Chezzleforth - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:45:31 EST ID:kBMgxugl No.587853 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Could I have ruined my tolerance by basically binging on 20x20mg methadone over the course of some weeks? This is probably 7 months ago.
I had some morphine last week, 150mg throughout the day didn't even reach my socks. What's the deal?
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Esther Farringketch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 07:52:53 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.587855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587853

There are types of tolerance. I think your brain is probably recovered, but if you are comparing it to early opi usage you will never reach that subjective high because it isn't novel anymore. You didn't know what you were getting into with the first opiate high, but suddenly you were floating. That wont come back unfortunately. I think this is what people mean chasing the dragon. There are reports of people taking a multi year break, then come back and feel like the drug wasn't even worth all the problems they had, when they LOVED it before.

Basically I think your brain should be mostly recovered, but you may not get the high you were used to if it was early in your career. Not to mention, Morphine is really subtle/weak compared to other opis unless you are IV user. Methadone is actually really great if you don't have a tolly, not sure on how it compares as I've never done it but if it was really euphoric for the binge you just may not be able to get there with oral morphine. Especially dosed slowly throughout the day. I can't find methadone to morphine equipotency data online, but I strongly believe it is at least 2x as potent.
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Oliver Hebblegold - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:19:25 EST ID:nlS4hic+ No.587865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587853
I've noticed that there is a permanent tolerance with Opioid use.
It will go down some with time, but when I first started out, hell, 10mg of hydro would have me flying.
After years of pushing 50-100mg it went up and stayed there.
for example, I havent touched Opiates in over a year, and just last week I took 70mg of Hydro, and I barely felt it.
Sucks, I know


making money by Thomas Greendock - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:59:39 EST ID:rtytBY9P No.587748 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what do you guys do when youre feenin and need money for that next fix?

I usually sell my music gear and video game consoles i dont use or play anymore etc. So im not a complete degenerate yet. So its kind of good to be a feen, helps me get rid of useless stuff
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 11:59:48 EST ID:lM4InbVb No.587797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587773

this guy gets it

that is all
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Shitting Drossledock - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 12:30:10 EST ID:secVEROx No.587801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587755
Naw man, i sell music gear and vid games i have no use or need for. I won't sell stuff I need or want or have use for.
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Polly Gemmerhood - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:04:40 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.587817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587773
When I said 1.5. 1, .5 I meant reach batch fruits three time with diminished results until it's not worth it. Some people say 2x fruiting cycles some say 5 to max it out. I found 3x to be good as the fungus gets weaker each time and more prone to infection by other organisms, Wichita cam kill people from cross toxins.

And the controller was this lizard tank thing with three outlets for electronic devices, 3 sensors/timers. A hygrometer for humidity, a thermometer, and a photo sensor for light intensity. Plus 2 outlets in timers only. While thing was digital.
I had a pc fan on one timer, a diy compact ultrasound humidifier which used a power splitter and ran the fish tank pump and transducer, light sensor did nothing, and last was timing lights. It had problems with high humidity, but otherwise was a dream. I checked it daily and that was too often.
I had all of this under my dorm bed, and inside a wooden footlocker, like those things that ppl get, kinda like a trunk with wheels and a built in shit lock. I brought s surge protector in by drilling a hole in the side for the cord, and running it thru. Also had a hole for air to cycle in and out. No way to tell what it was and it was locked in pain site.
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Polly Gemmerhood - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:07:18 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.587819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587817
And I sold 8ths for 30, q Oz for 60, half for 100, whole for 180, multi for 160 each. Neve sold bigger except for one time, I think I got 2k.not sure how much product. All back in'10 on campus at a party school
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 02:05:08 EST ID:KdCSTdEB No.587834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587819

This is disgustingly accurate.

10/10, anon.

Nb


/opi/ porn thread. by There is only Pain - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 05:45:37 EST ID:k3hEaDHa No.585502 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post only really tasty pics of opis.
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Charles Tillingshit - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:46:54 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.587772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587676
>>587682
I will write more about it on pc later, I'm winding down now after a long day with muh pupper
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 07:19:04 EST ID:FCG+1HPm No.587787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587772
thanks id appreciate that man. always was curious about 4-fibf but heard so many conflicting reports.
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Walter Sockleforth - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:56:04 EST ID:8U6Y/Eyl No.587815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587705
what the crap is bottom left ?
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Graham Bonnerstone - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 20:54:21 EST ID:nqvLVjiz No.587816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587815
Most likely 1P-LSD sold as LSD.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:24:14 EST ID:aK0u32uh No.587823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587816

Eh, usually I'd get mad about selling things as something else but the difference between the two is indistinguishable.


First Gram of Heroin by Martha Soffingfield - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 00:22:59 EST ID:nywqJ57d No.587634 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /opi/. Long time lurker first time poster here. Picking up my first ever gram of heroin tomorrow. I have absolutely zero tolerance to opiates. I plan to snort it, most definitely not looking to fuck around with smoking or injecting it. My plug assures me that it is not cut and "good quality" although I'm skeptical. So my questions are as follows: How long is a whole gram ($75) of this shit going to last me? How small should my lines be as someone with absolutely no tolerance? And, would finishing an entire gram to myself over the course of however long it takes put me in more serious danger of becoming addicted? How is heroin different from other opiates? I've tried oxycodone a handful of times and vicodin once prior to this but otherwise I am a pretty inexperienced opiate user. I also have no source for heroin in any quantity smaller than a gram. Thanks for the input, love you all. Stay safe.
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Martin Clammerlock - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:32:52 EST ID:URdnzYJV No.587807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587781

PST and H are totally different ballgames with physical dependency. You don't get much 'off' time with PST, at all . Chasing the high means 24/7 opi bombardment of your receptors. It is interesting and good to tell OP how fast this grew, but it isn't strictly relevant. Of course, with the fentalogs he might be getting you never know what kind of dependency he could get and how fast.
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Oliver Crenkinwell - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:43:09 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587788
>But I really don't believe people who talk about feeling any kind of actual physical dependence after only two weeks of use
just replying to that, believe whatever you want but if you tell people it takes 6 months of shooting h every day to develop a tolerance like that's typical, someone is gonna have a real bad time sooner or later. of course anyone shooting heroin every day is gonna have a bad time sooner or later so I guess it doesn't matter much in the end.
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Just some guy - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 18:34:20 EST ID:cs3KcCCW No.587813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587634
like most people have said, i'd really advise against what you're doing as you will probably, most definitely regret this choice later on down the track. sure it's possible you'll never touch it again but there's a much higher chance that you will and being addicted. opiate addiction, isn't fun, it's very depressing and totally changes you as a person. just think about it, really think about it. if you're ready to give everything in life up, like yeah, go for it. all of this aside, if you're really are, dead set ready to risk it, match head sized bumps, wait about half an hour between each bump. but yeah dude, really, don't do it.
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Molly Wummerway - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:30:23 EST ID:dLpt55Cr No.587872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587808
Yeah you would notice after 1-2 weeks when you start waking up in withdrawal that something is wrong.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 07:08:08 EST ID:weNihk2w No.587942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587808
No, I still don't buy it for a second - especially only dosing once a day. I will continue to be realistic about opioid dependence and tell people what I have in this thread - that it takes a concerted effort to get your first proper physical dependence over multiple months of solid daily use. You do not accidentally fall into a massive dependence one day unaware. It doesn't happen like that.

IVing opioids is a powerful thing for the mind; so powerful that it can quite easily create psychosomatic effects that people then mistake for actual withdrawal within only a few weeks of use. It's still not a physical habit.

and I think it's the opposite - that I'm telling the typical actual truth of the matter and that other people who disagree are already convinced about what a heroin habit should be so they mistake their desire and anxiety among other psychosomatic effects mimicking dependence when they're fiending their next shot to be {**]true{/**] withdrawal. It's not.


Magnesium Sulfate for WD (opi/gabapentin) by JJzz !crcUvGdmK. - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 19:25:30 EST ID:uuNb0bqm No.587477 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Posting here because /benz/ is slow and this demographic is probably more knowledgeable about the comorbidity of the two

I take 6-1800mg gabapentin per day for epilepsy /nerve pain and ~30g Kratom or the equivalent in IV heroin or oxycodone (~.15 or 60mg respectively)

Due to circumstances beyond my control, I am unexpectedly out of gabapentin for the next 2 weeks, and will be out of kratom until this weekend

I've never used magnesium for WD in the past but ive read several sources claiming that it can greatly reduce the severity of gabapentin/phenibut cessation symptoms.
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Graham Chankinman - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 21:16:04 EST ID:kFv4xmDF No.587567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587563
agmatine is ugly substance and doesnt help nerve pain

>>587562
if youre wd from heroin youre not going to be constipated lol, especially from gabapentin lol
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Hunter S. Nodson - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 22:25:21 EST ID:rV7oa5yd No.587571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587567
How the hell are you going to tell me what works for myself lol. At least provide a link that proves why.

It definitely helped my nerve pain, I have a severed nerve near my belly button from a hernia surgery along with glass in my elbow that pokes my nerves if I move funny or hit it. Agmstine lessens the severity more than anything I've tried. But yeah I guess it's complete shit right?
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Samuel Honeyridge - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 10:47:29 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.587607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587567
If you look I to it you might ho k otherwise
Jzz is the perfect person to ask as he's scripted it

Please Jzz I really need this info it's one of my biggest issues with opi and if it's woth gabapentin too then I need to redraw my dosage plan
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Edwin Bunlock - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 23:01:58 EST ID:cbXJ46oj No.587629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587607
dude gabapentin is not going to constipate you during opiate w/ds, that's just not going to happen.
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Sophie Crimblefud - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 14:47:32 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.587802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>587629
Well I hope so lol when I Googled it some people prescribed it report stroger constipation and I don't want no more anal bullshit like what smack causes


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