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BWN by overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 05:15:02 EST ID:JvUiiflM No.574698 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Here's a new Bump When Nod for us consumers of opioids; obviously the best drug users out there.

I did a nice shot of heroin mixed with 40mg~ of methylphenidate just earlier tonight. I'm now chilling and drinking wine with some good music playing.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:45:53 EST ID:Hy6Onq/J No.576829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
someone make a new BWN yo!

felt kinda shitty tonight. However I simply intravenously administered some heroin and methylphenidate and all is well again. Being human is defined by suffering, I think I've decided on this fact by now. I try not to mope over existence like a teenager going through babby's first existential crisis but it can be difficult sometimes. Good old drugs are a real godsend when I feel like I did earlier.
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Nicholas Snoddock - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 10:38:43 EST ID:uPX4j7zd No.576835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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150mg methadone
1mg xanax
10g kratom
2liter of white grapefruit juice

need to get some pst before i start slamming dope again.

>happy easter bros
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:26:39 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.576843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
test bump?
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Edwin Droblingforth - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 15:07:45 EST ID:QHvkdzpI No.576847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576814


ok AND youre in canton? dude you live too close by me...and WHY are you copping in the suburbs?!
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ShakhaZulu - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:15:34 EST ID:SpfCQRG5 No.576928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576744
AHAHAHAHAHAHA I actually just showed her this exact post coz we are together at the moment..
she just laughed.
But damn /opi/ don't I have a story for you guys..out of time now so will drop it in my next post.


Oramorph oral solution by WhagglyWhan - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:39:18 EST ID:V+7469tw No.576651 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So dudes, I have some Oramorph oral solution 10mg/5ml.
I have tried Codeine before, but only 120mg. I didn't really get too much from that...
How much (for a first timer with absolutely 0 tolerance) should I take to get a decent high from this stuff?
Any help much appreciated, coming down hard from some molly NB :)
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Polly Sugglewedge - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:31:21 EST ID:8nPOZCZq No.576700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576651
I'd say go for 30mg orally if you want a more heavy high, otherwise if you have plenty of the stuff I suggest you begin with 20mg, you'll feel it but still be pretty functional
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Jack Dunderpet - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 03:06:42 EST ID:bLhezvZe No.576703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576651
I would say don't plan on much if you do 30mgs. Coming try 20.
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WhagglyWhan - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 16:52:32 EST ID:c9WCfwFd No.576798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the pointers my friends, SO and myself are both dosing 12.5ml (25mg) of the solution as I'm typing. Love you guys.


Guaf AC by RxAnne - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:22:46 EST ID:Gnj0guRX No.576755 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Went to the hospital for a really bad cough and for horrible chest pain, can't take DXM (honest, horrible side effects), and asked if I could just have some prometh-codeine. He said yes and then I guess checked my CURES because I left with an 8 oz bottle of Cheratussin AC. Tried to get it fixed at the pharmacy but doc said it was chertussin AC or nothin.

I took 2 oz (and 3 or 4 Imodium) a few days ago and didn't feel much. I haven't had opiates in a while though and I know when I haven't had it in a while, 3 tylenol 3's will get me buzzed so I'm confused as to why the same amount of codeine in the cheratussin isn't working like tylenol 3 does even if I match or go over the equal value.

Yes I am aware guaf is bad to take over a certain amount and I don't do this often but I'm aware of the problems. Should I take 3 or 4 oz instead? Mostly I'm curious why the codeine doesn't do anything. If it matters it's "vertussin AC"
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RxAnne - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 22:24:05 EST ID:Gnj0guRX No.576756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I paid $1700 at the hospital to get evaluated, xrayed (xray doesn't count in the cost though), and told what I have is viral and he sent me home with this garbage. Fuckin pissed still
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RxAnne - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 04:23:23 EST ID:Gnj0guRX No.576777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alright well I took 3oz with 10mg dicyclomine (for intestine/IBS cramping I'll have) and 3 Imodium tablets. Already getting the itch after I took it about 20 minutes ago. Yes I calculated guaf and shit to make sure I don't kill myself nor my liver. My liver's had worse anyway.

Thanks anyway I guess


Fuf by Archie Mublingfeck - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 16:55:48 EST ID:/Wo3MeSp No.576670 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does this look like FU-F to you guys ?
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 17:35:10 EST ID:OIpQoQ2U No.576673 Report Quick Reply
>>576670
>does this powder look like a chemical

how in the actual fuck are we supposed to identify this at a molecular level
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Sidney Lightworth - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 22:56:01 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.576687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576670
best be careful.
people keep upping and upping their dosages, until they cant sleep 4 hours without waking up in withdrawal.
then they suicide.
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Hedda Crucklefat - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 02:53:06 EST ID:qy1py3dm No.576701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576673
oh you don't have the superpower of microscopic sight? I assumed you would.
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Caroline Chellersted - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 14:50:26 EST ID:SiwaKFm2 No.576730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>576673
kek
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Hugh Nanningchadging - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 21:11:11 EST ID:PYDnmHUo No.576751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576687
are you stupid? 4 hours?

nah holmes, ya gotta shoot every 1.5hrs at least.

best get some fresh rigs while ya can, op


When does bupe withdrawal kick in? by Charlotte Magglebanks - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:04:17 EST ID:Wc/hZek7 No.576633 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey. Having trouble finding out how long after my last dose of buprenorphine after a short binge will i start to feel withdrawals. The dose ive been using is about 3mg a day. I might not even go into withdrawals but i would like to know how long it will take if i do. Also what would you compare light bupe withdrawal to?
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Ernest Bludgestedge - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 02:33:01 EST ID:KlkZih6k No.576638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What would you guys compare light suboxone withdrawal to?
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Albert Bunfuck - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 11:10:40 EST ID:k60BOOUh No.576647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576638
like tripping on 50ug of lsd with the flu for 2 weeks
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John Sunningshaw - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 00:42:41 EST ID:42VIV0lU No.576693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576647
That seems really accuate answer. Thank you.
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George Hellerwune - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 18:13:14 EST ID:KkJQtM10 No.576738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just went thru a suboxone withdrawal, took 15 days to be totally back to normal. symptoms peaked at day 5
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Samuel Nepperstire - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 12:28:23 EST ID:NjRERFxf No.576786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576633
Fall of Efrafra is pretty great!
nb for offtopic


I may be bullshitting myself. But so does every one else for every thing else by Shit Clusslefuck - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 15:37:51 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.575913 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So a lot of times when people talk about their habit a lot of people will tell them that they are just justifying their habit to themselves in any which way they can. That might be true but 2 things:
1.) that doesn't necessarily negate the logic purported by the addict.
2.) Have you heard the common every day language we use? Nobody is old anymore - we become senior citizens, nobody is fat anymore - we're overweight, nobody is ugly - we're unattractive, nobody dies anymore - we pass away
Nobody is stupid anymore - we have a learning disability...
The point I'm making is that euphamistic language is an integral part of our lives that has tought us to bullshit ourselves from day one and everyone does it.

Now, you might say: "just because euphamisms are an integral part of our language doesn't justify the bullshitting of our habit to ourselves" and I would agree - no it doesn't. However it certainly doesn't help and is yet another barrier that people have to climb over thus decreasing the chances of people successfully quitting.
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!Mjk4PcAe16 - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:01:18 EST ID:k60BOOUh No.576719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>576699
>>576692
>>576717

The definition of addiction in the physician's desk reference or psychiatric Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is continuing to use drugs in spite of consequences, and matching a list of criteria that is somewhat arbitrary, but the point is that definition is separate from physical dependence and tolerance. IF someone is able to use drugs, even when they are physically dependent, without negative consequences or very minor consequences WHERE IS THE PROBLEM? Physical dependence itself is NOT NECESSARILY a consequence even in the eyes of the fucked up and dogmatic medical institutions! An example of someone who has physical dependence but does not have any major consequences is my former employer who is somewhat wealthy guy but has to take pills everyday and he is a respectable man and works harder than anyone I have met, and I have never ever seen him visibly intoxicated even when he drinks alcohol. Another is the hypothetical example of people in opioid replacement therapy, buprenorphine as well as gabapentin and pregabalin exhibit the ceiling effect as well as classical tolerance. That means that at a certain point the person taking those drugs does not really get high off of them anymore and only takes those drugs to stave off withdrawals. And although that might not seem optimal to everyone, to others it is because they experience the Post Acute Withdrawal Syndrome and their lives are simply better when their brain receptors are being flooded by these chemicals. The only consequence of this kind of drug dependence is minor effects on the endocrine system and sexual functioning, and there are pharmaceutical solutions for both. If a person thinks that those consequences are not as severe as their PAWS then shouldnt we support them in their choice and support whatever is best for their wellbeing and performance, instead of berating them and comparing them to homeless gutter junkies that treat their arms like pin cushions and push toxic black sludge through their scarred, hard veins?

Again, how fucked up is it that on a fucking OPIATE imageboard this kind of division and opposition is so pervasive? We could organize and help eachother especially in Europe where if we all decided to move to one of the smaller EU states we could democratically change the government so that we are not being systematically targeted by the establishment. Imagine how many less people would be injecting toxic sludge and overdosing if SUBUTEX WAS SOLD OVER THE COUNTER? The most common reason that people do not want to enter opioid replacement therapy is because it is a pain in the ass to get into and because then forever your name will be on a list that says you are a drug addict and in many EU countries that makes you a second class citizen that opens you up for oppression including but not limited to restrictions being placed on owning firearms, the most basic form of self preservation in modern society. If you could just buy subutex the same way people buy the morning after pill we would not see dramatic spikes in new cases of addictions but we would see dramatic dips in the number of people using opiates in a harmful manner. You can already buy codeine at the pharmacy in many countries although they tend to pair it up with other chemicals DESIGNED TO MAKE THE PREPARATION TOXIC, such as SORBITOL or APAP. Also you can already buy loperamide and that is known as "poor man's methadone" except the only problem is that it can stop a person's heart dead in its tracks from something called QT prolongation and that kills dozens of people world wide each year. How is that for HARM REDUCTION??? Prohibition does not work and even in fucking PALESTINE which is a fucking walled off enclave people can buy tramadol on the black market. How many poor drug addicts in pallestine do you think suffer from seizures because the only thing they can get is fucking trams?

Look at what happened during the communist revolution in China.. tens of millions of opium addicts were SLAUGHTERED. Look at what is happening in the Philippines, thousands of drug addicts HAVE BEEN SLAUGHTERED. Look at the rise of edgey nazis on /pol.. how long do you think we have before we start seeing massive hate crimes against drug addicts in the west by the so called "right wing death squads?" Our useless bickering here is a waste of our mental faculties and what we should be focusing on is supporting eachother through HARM REDUCTION whether that means sobriety or controlled use is up to the INDIVIDUAL.. no one besides yourself knows what is best for you.. do not listen to doctors or AA or NA drones. We should be focusing our energy on ORGANIZING POLITICALLY so we can avoid more purges and also avoid prison and get people the medications THEY DESERVE.

Lastly I will just say that your guy's logic is flawed and obviously coming from a place of moralization and you are victims of the brainwashing campaigns that demonize certain drugs and praise others. If you need marijuana for creativity then how is that different from using coffee to aid in productivity? The former is actually less addictive and also using opiates to aid in productivity is not unheard of, I am able to study for tests in school the best when I have something to take the edge off. I literally cannot get out of bed without drinking coffee and if I somehow did I would have a blasting migraine.. not to different than having to take opiates even though opiates have been demonized and the former has less severe withdrawals although if something produces withdrawals at all shouldnt it not be in the same category as opiates? And furthermore, it is still legal and acceptable to smoke tobacco especially in European countries even though it is wildly more toxic than opiates. And then lastly there is alcohol which is socially acceptable yet causes more damage and the same amount of deaths in the US as drug induced deaths, also it is infinitely more toxic if used in a sustained manner compared to opiates and alcohol's withdrawal can cause immediate and direct death from seizures. http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Causes_of_Death#sthash.xGsLZweL.dpbs

Here are three episodes of the Joe Rogan Experience that deal with these issues:

The first is with Andrew Hill, PHD who runs a treatment center that teaches drug addicts HOW TO USE DRUGS RESPONSIBLY instead of dogmatically forcing them to do something as unnatural as refraining from all drink or drugs and yes i know you will say that taking drugs is unnatural but that is again dogmatic and from the perspective of a drug addict staying sober is unnatural:
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Jack Creddlekidge - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:38:12 EST ID:oaWRMjn3 No.576721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576718

No matter how much mental gymnastics you do or what you consider right for yourself you aren't going to change the mind of people who can function without drugs/aren't damaged. Acting like people should look upon this as something totally fine is ridiculous, people are going to judge it and that will never change, it's looked at as a weakness, regardless of what ever kind of justification you have others have different views. I personally would be fine with legalization and letting people who can't live without he shit dying if they allow it to happen but I don't see that ever happening sadly.
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!Mjk4PcAe16 - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:44:52 EST ID:k60BOOUh No.576723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>576721
>mental gymnastics
>logical arguments
pick one

Youre the one spouting dogma equal to "Hurr durr doing opiates is always bad. Its the devil. Its just common sense." I added the last two things but im guessing that's what you are thinking. And yes I will admit that opiates have many similarities to the classical idea of satan but you could compare technology in a similar way. Whenever you use a calculator instead of doing arithmetic in your head you are making a deal with devil because you are not exercising that part of your brain and the tool that is supposed to strengthen you is actually making you mentally weaker. But, I think its okay to make deals with demons sometimes or at least compromises.

Of course being able to be content and productive without any kind of pharmaceutical support is optimal but that just isnt possible for everyone.. in fact it may not be possible for the MAJORITY of people that have had addictions. Something like 1 out of 10 drug addicts die every 5 years and only 1 will remain abstinent. The rest will fall inbetween and isnt it better for someone to use just a little bit or in a way that REDUCES HARM? Instead of trying to have these unreal expectations of people that in my experience has caused tragedy more often than not?

Of course having another thing to depend on is a weakness but human beings are weak by nature. Try going without sleep or food or water or going to the bathroom. The result will be very similar to that of a heroin addict experiencing withdrawals and its no coincidence that the same parts of the brain light up. Opiate withdrawal wont kill directly usually, but it can render people useless or even drive people to hurt themselves, not to mention put tremendous stress on the body and traumatize people mentally.

Striving to not be dependent on drugs is fine but so is striving to use drugs in a way that limits consequences, ie HARM REDUCTION. There is no reason why drugs should cost the amount they do and why people shouldnt have inexpensive access to safe and pure pharmaceuticals in the modern age. And even if there is an apocalyptic event, drug addicts should be able to stockpile their medication and so should anyone that has to rely on pharmaceuticals for their survival or performance or mental well being.

There can be negative effects on people's personalities resulting from drug use but there doesnt have to be the case and with drugs like buprenorphine those are very minimal because of the ceiling effect. Have you ever been on a long term buprenorphine regiment? In my experience there was almost no mind or mood altering effects once tolerance was acquired although I did not experience what I consider to be PAWS. How would having to take a pill everyday that has minimal effects on mood have any way of negatively effecting a person's personality?
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!Mjk4PcAe16 - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 12:46:18 EST ID:k60BOOUh No.576724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>576722
and the fact you dont like joe rogan's podcast shows you have shit taste but nonetheless just because you dont like rogan for whatever shitty reason it does not discredit the guests that he had on and that i linked to.. you even went so far as to make an ad hominen argument out of it
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 16:01:03 EST ID:kGrfthBa No.576733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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k60BOOUh I love you and keep posting forever <3


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