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How much codeine to get high? by John Cinderstock - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 01:51:16 EST ID:bwOIfviC No.565833 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have 60-120 mg of codeine tabs on me right now, and I am desperate for a good buzz. As far as opioids go, all I've done is hydros. I am not sure about the dosage of the codeine, but I think it's either 30 or 60 mg per tab (I have 2 tabs and I am not quite sure about the doses, but due to research, my conclusion is either 30 mg or 60 mg). Will this do me any good, and if so, how long will it do me?
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Jenny Heddlemidging - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 01:57:20 EST ID:HHYu3/Pq No.565834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565833
240mg should get you really high with no tolerance but you might want to have an antihistamine handy

120mg would be more of a chill functional high
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Samuel Simmerspear - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:18:02 EST ID:yWvCz/L+ No.565835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565833
you would barely feel 60mg, 120mg would be good if you have a low tolerance.

you might as well try it, preferbly on an empty stomach for maximum effect. It will last you about 2-4 hours.
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Wesley Finnerbog - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:32:51 EST ID:LPidIJp9 No.565838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565833
130-215mg codeine feels like 30mg oral morphine (or 20mg oxycodone, 30mg hydrocodone). That's what I'd recommend for anyone that's done a serious opioid like hydrocodone. You should really start with 120mg at least. Realistically try 150 or 180mg the first time with an antihistamine. 180mg should feel like ~5 Vicodin 5s, or 120mg feels like about 3 Vicodin 5s (hydro).

If you have to scrounge up a minimum dose, I'd say less than 90mg isn't worth it 100%, and that less than 120mg is laughable. It is codeine after all, 60% c6g 40% morphine conversion. You'll like it less than hydrocodone but it is a real opioid.
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Albert Chuddleman - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:30:19 EST ID:deifBltk No.565861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565838
Isn't 130mg of Codeine moar like 7mg Morphine? I recall seeing on a chart comparing different opioids to 10mg oral Morphine that 180mg of Codeine should amount to 10mg of Morphine
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Hedda Gallerbot - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:04:08 EST ID:E4UGMSTW No.565883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565838
sorry but 215 mg codeine is nowhere near 20 mg of oxy, oxy is stronger


Losing people by Esther Wannerway - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 19:28:25 EST ID:rdbflkGd No.565694 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Have you ever lost anyone you loved to an overdose, /opi/?

Was clean for 2 months, then went out and picked up again. I hated myself and went back to NA after the bag was gone. Went clean for another month, then picked up again. This is now, and I've just been getting bag after bag after bag. I have to fucking stop. I have a single suboxone pill left and I'm going to split it into quarters and coast off the 4 days. I've been spending too much money, withdrawing from friends I've made while clean and they are good people. I havent been looking for a job and I've been coasting off a fund I have and an insurance payment. Quickly running out and I have no choice. I've been to the point of selling all my valuables. Having nothing. I don't want to go back to that life. It's miserable. I would'nt change the fact I went through that before for anything.

Because last year was the happiest year of my life. I had the love of my life, the most beautiful woman I've ever seen that was 10/10 personality, looks, and loved having sex with me. She had a drug problem though. At the beginning of the relationship and up until the point we started using, I was completely against heroin. I would break up with her if she used it. We started taking pain pills, which became hard to find and expensive. So I said fuck it. Call the dealer. 6 months later, after realizing how much of a toll it was taking on us, we weaned off and weren't getting sick any more. Christmas day, we got a 30 bag and skipped our "test it's strength with a tiny bit" rule, and cooked it all up, divided it between us, and shot up. We both fell out. I woke up an unknown amount of time later with her not breathing and no heartbeat and CPR wouldn't work. It was too late by the time I got her to the hospital. They got her heart started again but she was braindead in a coma. She was pronounced dead two days later. I've been fucked up about it since. I wanted to die and join her. I still kind of do. But I started shooting up like crazy. Because fuck it, right? No point to life any more. The woman I love is gone. She took my virginity and taught me so much. Not just about sex, about life, and love...

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Isabella Cillyway - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 09:41:07 EST ID:4Ua4GWJ9 No.565857 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>565831
I feel ya pal.

I have autism, I had been a shut-in til I was 10, then I met my pal, he pulled me outta my shell, we explored the world together and shit, he was my first friend, taught me how to socialise etc.
He started getting in with a different kind of people when we were like 16, we slowly lost contact, but I still thought of him like weekly, but being the social wreck that I am I maybe contacted him once every 3 months, and we did have very good chat convos.

So, few months ago, he messages me outta nowhere: Hey pal, how are you doing, would you like to meet up? I miss talking to you.
My heart fucking skipped a beat, wanted to see him badly, we set a date to meet the next weekend.
Monday comes, mutual friend texts me that he's dead, that evening I find out through his mother that he nodded off, and never woke up. Hours after messaging me.
I feel like it's my fault for not staying at his side, making sure he didn't make those choices, but I know it's pointless, and it probably wouldn't have changed much.
He's the most influential person ever in my life, I'd like to share the message I left to my friend after his death as an image attachment, even if you guys can't read it.

I still think of him all the time as if he were alive, and I still can't accept that he died.

I hope he's proud of me.
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Thomas Padgegold - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:37:01 EST ID:If6Li2BE No.565871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a really close homie of mine od'd on either a fentalogue/u4 and etizolam

i told that asshole to never mix any of those three especially an opi and benz.

now dude is cold in ground and i miss the fuck out of him. he was the core of crew of my youth
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Ernest Fuckingforth - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:22:17 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.565873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tfw all your childhood friends turned into hard SJWs, not conservative junkies
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Fuck Neckleway - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:54:53 EST ID:+iOJUcN6 No.565880 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>565873
you have no idea how much i fucking know that feel
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- Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:00:48 EST ID:ZOGqlgQE No.565881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565873
I know this feel.

While sometimes I do hate this feel, it's shit like this thread that's why I tend to try and surround myself with straighter people, because Lord knows I don't need any encouragement on my behavior.

Worst is relationships. Never. Ever. Date another hardcore substance abuser. My last one was the shittiest of my entire a lot of which had to d with drugs. First time we fucked she comes over with so much weed, booze, and pills, and I had my own stash of pills. I told her I didn't want to forget, and looking back. I'm kind of pissed that she did. I am actually pissed at her in a lot of ways I felt like I couldn't be because I was always on edge that she'd be dead, and of course it drove me in deeper. My life has been a wreck since then and while I never wanted to admit it, yeah of course she was partly to blame. That one I had to go to a fucking detox unit.

Another one, well she was also extraordinary and magickal in her own unique ways, but she was unbeknownst to me a smackhead. Now, this is what ultimately pissed me off about her is she had that kind of background and she know I was a recovering alcoholic. In retrospect, I think part of what attracted her to me in the first place was she saw in me everything she wished she could be or wanted to do and projected that into me because I was also quitting smoking cold turkey.

But it had gotten to the point where she was offering me booze and shit. Now the pills I was cool with I was taking benzos to try and ease withdrawal hell of nicotine but I told her I was an alcoholic who hadn't so much as had a slice of rum cake or sip of beer in months. She have me a shot and let me whiff it and was all "wow, that fast?" watching my reaction. Later on she disappears for a week which was longer than expected. Yeah well she was apparently doing fucking heroin with some crackhead the whole time, which I didn't know when I just got an eerie vibe to cut it off. I did this partly because she was trying to get me to stay over one night when I had work the next day and was plying me with alcohol when I asked her "would you give a cokehead coke?" and she said "of course" so that was that.

Later on she comes back with said dude and I find out more of the story.

For many years it has eaten me up inside how horrible and vicious I was to her at the end and that was partly being terrified of goingviver there and finding her dead. While I can't even say for sure if I know what love is anymore or I even do love anyone, the way I felt about that woman....and she never knew. I whispered I love you into her hair every night as she slept, because I was terrified of what would happen if she knew I said it. Not just about driving her away, but an instinctual, cosmic paranoia to not ever let on that any one of anything had ever mattered to you or if will go away.
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street price by David Drengerstit - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:04:42 EST ID:QSINOVjv No.565860 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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5/325 percocet in US
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Priscilla Wenderwill - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:22:24 EST ID:XubhI/0M No.565867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I live in SE USA, noone I know sells 5/325 but the 10mg vicodin go for $10 each. It is all dependant on where you are but $5 a pill would be considered fair pricing here
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:50:05 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565867
That's the equivalent of $1.50/mg for oxycodone. Aka not worth buying.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:49:46 EST ID:D6RKRVe+ No.565879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565869
Percs can range from 3-5 dollars in the greater Toronto area anywhere from Niagra up to Lake Simcoe. But once you cross past general cottage country and get to Nipissing region, the locals can pay you up to $7-$8 each. Even if you go slightly east into Peterborough, you can sell them up to $10 each if there's a opioid drought.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:08:40 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565879
Oh I'm not disagreeing that $1/mg hydro and $2/mg oxy prices exist. I'm just making a normative judgement statement about what is "worth it". If people will pay $15 for a fruit drink downtown, they'll pay $20 for a bar of Xanax.
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Priscilla Wenderwill - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:28:51 EST ID:XubhI/0M No.565885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565884
yeah, i just said what the price was never said it was "worth it", i spend my money on heroin and only buy pills when I can't find it


It's just dawned on me, I'm addicted. by Nell Mimblemare - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 07:43:50 EST ID:aY/Rk7eZ No.565742 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So... I thought codeine was mild enough for me to take or leave and not fiend on.

Holy shit was I wrong

A few years ago I began using and I've mostly used on and off, usually at the end of the week, for a good while now. But nowadays I'm probably doing it every two days. I just can't seem to resist the pull of this drug. Worst part is, I'm having to do CWEs and buy these packets of cocodamol quite regularly.

I still get a good buzz off one box, so at the most I'm still only spending £10-20 a week on boxes, but still, I underestimated codeine as being a very mild opiate.

I love the feeling so much but it's going to get to the point where I can't hide it from my family anymore soon, I'm sure of it. I always end up feeling depressed as shit, tired, grouchy and nauseous whenever I come off it or I get another craving.

Am I stuck with this drug for life or something now? Would you guys say I'm overreacting or worrying too much about it? Also, how dangerous is it to take codeine regularly, can it have any bad effects bar addiction? I try to use a small amount of water when I CWE and it's usually through layers and layers of thick kitchen roll, and I get a clear result unless I use paramol which has a colouring in it anyway, and even so I filter twice just to make sure.

I had a nice nod on dihydro last night and the only thing I've been able to think about today is "I need to buy more, now."

I'm not sure how to feel about this, /opi/. I know it isn't a strong opiate, but I'm still hooked. Not as badly as on cigarettes, but these cravings are becoming more and more common. What would you all say would be the best thing to do? Just give up or continue? Because honestly if I could find codeine pure and I didn't have to do CWE, I'd probably be on it every single day.
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kerflap - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 05:48:29 EST ID:lR6itJfd No.565849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565799
the only herb I smoke is da chronic
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kerflap - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 05:54:19 EST ID:lR6itJfd No.565851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565775
I feel you brother, I feel like a dead man walking most days now
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Samuel Simmerspear - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 06:04:47 EST ID:yWvCz/L+ No.565852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565799
What are some key herbs/ supplements you take and would recommend for opiate users? I'm interested in this topic, especially since your experience has been positive. I fall into the lazy category when it comes to this topic, but I'm pretty poor too so i can't fork out a lot. I struggle to even brush my teeth twice a day, however lately I've wanted to take care of myself better so I'd be interested to hear some specifics about the herbs you take
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William Clumblestag - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:40:44 EST ID:Bnmqiw6Z No.565859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565742
I got bad cluster headaches this week after drinking wine, I dont drink rly any more, and had to get some. Done 180mg feeling mellow but Ill heed your warning. Used to get tramadol and diazepam too, they creep on you cause they nice.
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Ernest Fuckingforth - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:48:24 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.565878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>565852
i would take/try all the herbs buhner protocol suggests. even if you dont think you have lyme or parasites. you will be surprised. im poor too, so powders from ebay are cheaper than tinctures and good enough.
for teeth i recommend oil pulling with cannabis coconut oil+cayenne+ester c

id recommend everyone try magnesium malate/gycinate/threonate, ester/vit c large doses, raw eggs w/ (washed)shells, cocoa powder, morgina powder, great tea capsules (jarrow brand), diatomaceous earth, alcar, nac, celtic sea/pink salt, trace minerals + spring water, methylated b vitamins, bee pollen, cod liver oil, baking soda, NEVER EVER VIT D3. those are pretty cheap and will help most people so so much

if you can get the money id try every herb dr stephan buhner recommends. also UDLN and LDN, best tool for opi tolerance. there are herbs for opi tolerance which work pretty damn well too. i actually dont take them because i will be unable to function/mad sedated everyday if i do and i have much to do

if poor, id start with these herb tinctures: Cat’s claw, Japanese knotweed/high dose resveratrol supplement, Serrapeptase, Andrographis, astragalus, eleutherococcus

also andy cutler heavy metal chelation, low dose ala every 3hrs

fix long term malnutrition
heal joints/collagen/nerves
remove heavy metals (immune system cannot function highly with these)
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How legitimate is emotional pain do you think? by Vesuvius - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:34:51 EST ID:23ewvkMM No.565877 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm not being rhetorical or sarcastic when I ask this question. If you are in severe physical pain then you may or may not get some opis. However, if you're in emotional pain (severe depression) you most certainly will not get any opis. I once described to a doctor that depression is kind of of like aids but for the mind in that, I see no reason or will to wake up every day. So in a sense it's like my ability to fight off feelings of worthlessness has been compromised just like AIDS would compromise your immune systems ability to fight off disease - I have lost my ability to fight off negative thoughts. He sort of laughed and said it's nothing like AIDS. I mean... it's fine if you don't agree with me, but I hate when people disagree with me without critiquing my reasoning that I have just put forth. I hate that. If you just say "you're stupid you are incorrect" without showing me where my logic is faulty then I have no choice but to believe your accusation is true of you - not me.

Anyways, I think emotional health is just as important as physical health. Except nobody I know of seems to give a shit about such things. Why is this?


Bump When Nod - BWN by overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:36:11 EST ID:PdFDmZiT No.565101 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old one has reached the bump limit.

Seeing as I'm rather high, I'll give this thread a start for once in a fair amount of time. Did a shot of heroin + methylphenidate just earlier and was already on about 40mg of diazepam and 4mg of clonazepam as I did the shot. No comedown for me. Just going to get some sleep now, but it's been a good opi-filled night.

Let the fresh BWNs continue /opi/~
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Matilda Greenbury - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:04:23 EST ID:hh0g0oyM No.565843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cotton shot, resin ball knife hits, and melatonin. It's a shitty night. Not nodding, but BWable to sleep after 3 days of withdrawals
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kerflap - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 05:51:18 EST ID:lR6itJfd No.565850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I keep forgetting that this thread is the BWN for some reason, anyway bump when heroin
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downregulate !v2HyXANAx. - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:19:16 EST ID:Ow9zwe/o No.565866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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feeling a strong opi buzz is a blessing after two days trying futilely to catch a nod off Furanyl-Fent.

bwn 24mg U4 and weed, maybe only a couple more doses of it left. was fun while it lasted!
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Hedda Gallerbot - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 13:26:16 EST ID:E4UGMSTW No.565870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
350 mg of tramal, 450 mg of codeine little bit later. Really nice.
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John Brookdock - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 15:18:45 EST ID:5t7klumU No.565876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bump for accidentally dosing too much in the morning and nodding on the first day of classes.

Apparently the organic chem course I signed up for is mostly for grad students. I've only taken the basic undergrad sophmore ochem sequence so far being a junior, so this should be interesting. hopefully the good kind of interesting


Anti BWN - If you're jonesing and hating life - PART 2 by cyproxy - Sun, 24 Jul 2016 20:20:15 EST ID:CDFWrgHv No.561289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Previous Anti-BWN has maxed out and seeing how popular the first one I created was (back on Valentines Day!) it seems appropriate to continue the trend.

So if your life is sucking because you're out of dope, money and resources or if just everyone hates you because you've burned so many bridges, sound off - you aren't the only one.
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Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:12:47 EST ID:7c0YpD7G No.565673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>561289
Well this morning I've had about a quarter cup of seeds, a little less. Took 2o mg diazepam acquired from my mom, drank around 3 shot of liquor, took 900 mg gabapentin and smoked my last bit of hash. The next 2 days are gong to suck. Only thing I got left is gabs and only got around 8 of those. On Wednesday when I get seeds hopefully a quarter cup will actually feel good instead of just barely getting me by after a 2 day break. Bwnh on opis but feeling OK.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 17:16:10 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565673
Do you want me to do volume to weight conversions for seeds so you know your exact doses? We have the same source material. I would be interested in potential variance in density between batches and brands.
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Ernest Fuckingforth - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:20:36 EST ID:S/0CMF5+ No.565872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>565631
get on pst? it can work like subs where it takes away urge to get high on h and you get your brain used to more basic levels of dopamine n shiz
totally stopped my habit, now i dont enjoy using h for more than 2 days in a row. feels pointless when i can take pst to be well
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Clara Drubberstone - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:39:21 EST ID:EsQNsmle No.565875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My mom died in april and it hit me hard. I was doing tons of oxy 30's and codiene syrup. A couple weeks passed and i quit, i did it because my mom would have wanted me too and i was tired of the lifestyle, i had the money to sustain it just got tired of everything about it. I was clean for almost 2 months when my dad ended up killing him self using alcohol at the start of july. 2 months were enough for him, he could not live without my mom. The sadness crept in and i was back on pills and syrup before i knew it. My dad nor my mom left a will so everything goes through the state for the time being. Meaning my brother and i get nothing till the state decides who gets what and what money goes where, takes up to 6 months. We have had to pick up every bill and tab since, even getting him cremated we had to pay for. Ive been broker than i have been since i was 14. Every penny i get i want to spend on oxy to numb my sadness. Its now September almost October and my grandpa just died from cancer. I just wanna nod out and not think about anything. But i cant. Im $6000 in debt and it just keeps piling up. I bought 2 30's a few days ago and said its my last bag. Im confident in my self to quit, but all i want to do is buy more pills but im broke so i cant. I guess this is farewell for now. Its been nice back on oxys but i think sober will be a nice change of pace. Sleeping is gonna suck for a wile. See ya soon but hopefully not too soon. Peace everyone
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:02:27 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565875
Yo buddy, instead of a roxy 30 buy a bag of 5lb poopy seeds ob the internet. I promise a half of a pound is at least as strong as a roxy 30. So ten times cheaper.

Sorry about your loss. Buy some etizolam and use it in low doses (1-3mg max) to numb the emotional pain and try to grow your own roots and move on with your life. I know that's super easy for me to say.


PST/PPT General Thread 2.0 by Dr. Mario - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:52:08 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.559995 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Greetings people of /opi/,

The last one was such a success, so we might as well repeat it. This thread is for all things poppy (PST, PPT that almost no one uses anymore, hell even fucking opium, homegrown pods).

Feel free to talk about acronymed sources and current "qualities" of products you use, tips on their use, drugs to potentiate them, and any questions or sources about the potential health consequences of PST et al.

>8oz PST this morning, I was convinced my crates must be bunk, and while they're definitely not the best, tolerance complicates and clouds everything

Cheers to another 500 posts of our governments hopefully not regulating this $2-10 high.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 20:09:45 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565802
>>565802
My taper was by definition a success, but it wasn't the first time. I can't even remember the day by day, but essentially ive discovered 4 ways that make tapering possible depending on your needs.

  1. Slow pissy taper. This is for people who work 5+ days a week or long hours. If you cannot handle any WD whatsoever, then do the math for a 14 or 28-30 day taper. For methadone/crazy amount users, a 60 day taper might be better. Its simple, use a calculator to reduce by the set amount every day (around 3% less per day for a 30-day, pills don't really work for this and for dope or whatever you might need a 1mg scale, and even then PST/dope etc. can be uneven.

2. Do a quick ass taper, like 7-14 days. Do the same % reduction every day. Some people do best with a daily dose all at once, but others get less WD if they split up the same daily dose into 2-4 servings every 6-12 hours. For me the daily dose all at once was a must and was best against cravings. Another way that worked for me was reducing 1oz or 0.5oz per day when i was hooked on 12-20oz per day. This worked pretty well until about 4-5oz.

3. Do a crazy-short taper by going immediately to half daily dose, then stick to it for 2-4 weeks. Just don't go back up. Similarly a quick way to do it is by switching to another weaker or otherwise different DOC. For example switching from 8oz seeds a day to 4oz seeds + 4-8g of kratom leaf. Some might even do 8oz seeds to 10g kratom and just live out the WDs with immodium, advil, 1st gen antihistamines for WD (switch up the antihistamine every single night or skip nights, tolerance grows fast), SHORT TERM and/or low dose benzos, possibly low dose (1-6 servings) alcohol if yoy handle it well and it helps, and low-moderate weed dose if that helps you.

4. Cold turkey and shit and sweat yourself for a week. Or three.

You really really need to acquire helpful resources. Immodium is a must. It gets rid of 25-50% of the physical WD. Advil/NSAID can help. Kratom is good for depression and WD even if it never got you high. Weed can help with sleep, RLS, or sore muscles. Various muscle relaxers can help. promethazine and hydroxyzine, particularly the latter, are helpful as basically benadryl plus weird anxiolytic effects. Benzos are a godsend for sleep as that is my most horrible and dysfunctional WD symptom.

Im going to make my last kratom purchase very soon, probably tomorrow, as the time to get it legally is running out. Though tbh I don't know if having a QP-Kilo of a schedule 1 substance is worth the mild relied kratom provides.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 20:10:20 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565812
2/2:


I can get clean in 2-4 weeks and then be clean for a month, but then I still complain about drugs or talk about them too much. My one friend asked me "bro its been 6-7 weeks since your last benzo dose, can you honestly say you're not back to normal yet?".

Once you've got some serious use under your belt (especially 6-12 months of once ever 1-3 days dosing), any kind of binge use will have negative effects and your tolerance will only go away so much. For example I've only used maybe 2.5lbs coming off a clean run but even the 3rd dose at 8oz wasn't as good as the first 5.33oz dose.

As we all know, near daily use just plain sucks without ULDN (never had it). The potentiators help but cimetidine especially started hurting my intestinal system. So I stopped those.

The truth is people in our position need to stop opioids as quick as we can manage, and then maintain at least 30 days of sobriety. Almost anyone can do that. The hardest step is to go for that rebound dose at 50-100% our normal dose, and then be responsible enough to lock or put that shit away for at least 10-14 days and redose.

I don't use opis to nod, I use them for euphoria and to get fucking high. You know, to feel good instead of not feeling at all. So the truth is 2-3 times per month is the only way to bring back any level of magic. The magic will be gone by the 2nd rebound dose, or dose 3-4 at maximum.

The only opioid we could take every 5-7 days and for it to actually work would have to be potent short ones, especially hydromorphone. But even then it's 8-16mg snorted or 8mg shot, whatever, and then absolutely no redosing whatsoever.
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WIAKR+Pa !1CreRGKd/6!!TfPvomrn - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 07:31:22 EST ID:xg0bxgUR No.565853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565802
I measured out my current habit to be about 160 grams of SN seeds every 48 hours. I've got around 15lbs or so currently. I needed a reduction of 1.8181 repeating grams per dose to have fully tapered at the same time that I ran out of seeds. I decided it'd be easier to just round to a reduction of 2 grams per dose. I'll have a couple hundred extra grams which I'll give to a friend or else toss. My last dose will be Friday March 3rd, 2017. Almost a year since I first ordered SN (I had ordered some shitty off brand seeds previously, but they were nothing like SN seeds). It's a 1.25% reduction (from the original dose) per dose. The only issue I currently foresee is that the bag I just finished was extraordinarily potent. It would get me to nod uncontrollably when I hadn't nodded at all in weeks. I'm hoping the other bags measure up, but I really doubt it. I'd expect that the bag is likely the strongest I've ever gotten (and hopefully will ever get). To mitigate this in the future, it'd probably be a good idea to attempt to mix the seeds from my three remaining bags aa thoroughly as possible, right? Just in case one is especially potent, or bunk, or one of each. It'd suck to go from super potent to totally bunk really quickly whilst on a taper.

Any feedback, advice, support, comments, etc. is welcome!
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WIAKR+Pa !1CreRGKd/6!!TfPvomrn - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:07:00 EST ID:xg0bxgUR No.565855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565813
Sorry, I didn't see your post before I replied. Thank you very much for your advice!
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Dates? - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 14:36:06 EST ID:oFRJYjiK No.565874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>565853
Hi,
Can you plz tell me what the exp dates are on your bags from SN? What's the exp date from the strongest & weakest? Also did you order from the riv or direct from SN?
I ask because for the 1st time ever I got really weak seed from them, it had a 4/2017 exp date. It wasn't just a little weak, it was really weak. It made me feel jittery & actually made certain aspects of my pain worse. Then I got another order w/an exp date of 5/2017. It was def better but still not as great as I normally get from them. It was weird because up til that point every order has been pretty great.
In respect to Dr. Mario's comment about ULDN, I have really been wanting to try this. It suprised me that more people don't use it here w/all of the positive effects it has. Would be cool to have a dedicated thread about it.
Anyhow, appreciate your input.

Enjoy the day.


I'm a stupid pussy and can't the methadone withdrawal by Martin Gicklecocke - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:56:34 EST ID:yc/GVUJW No.565676 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guyz,

I'm on a shitload of methadone a day, 160mg. My doc thinks I'm well-behaved but that can't be further from the turth... But because he thinks that I get my methadone tablets in a huge box for the whole week!
I usually binge on it for 2-3 days and then have to take care not to run out too early... But now I messed up. I took my last dose of only 80mg 36 hours ago... That took me to earlier today but now I'm feeling like crap for around 12 hours already.
And I'm scared... I still have to go around 12 more hours!
I just took some MCP because my stomach is messed up from the withdrawal. I'm jittery and feeling super unwell.

I have some tramadol around but some time ago I took 800mg of it and got super nauseous, thus I'm scared of it now.
Could I do a smaller amount? Would it even help?!

What should I do?!
And yeah, I know I'm stupid for fucking up like that of course.
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Wesley Finnerbog - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:40:21 EST ID:LPidIJp9 No.565839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565836
Lol just did the math, $65700 per year and you'd still get to take 90mg per day, around the max our resident addicts take. You get to be a full blown dependent user and still make more than me. Why don't you have life sorted out? Do you even realize you're sitting on the biggest gold mine in history?

People could shoot it too. Do you just waste it and eat it all? Wow you're killing me OP you've got the best pill mill doctor in history and haven't figured out how2 six figures + still get high.
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Nicholas Mangernack - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 10:32:39 EST ID:o4NsypiJ No.565858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565839

Are you a shut in or have you not been into opiates long enough to know how methadone clinics work?
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:32:13 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.565862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565858
He said he gets the entire script as take-homes, aka he doesn't get scropted through a normal clinic. He literally does not function like any methadone clinic ive ever heard of.

Anon is a bit rude but he's right. That guy is sitting on a gold mine. Theres no way 180mg produces a notable buzz especially for someone who tries cycles of stacking and WD. Think about it this guy probably doses close to 300mg trying to get high. Thats fucking nuts and a waste of resources. If it was dailies that they supervise you to drink in front of them, then yeah he couldn't sell them.

This guy literally gets 1.26g of methadone in a take-home box every week. There's a reason they force addicts to come to the Pharmacy every day. They know they'd be doing exactly what OP does, or shoot it, or try to sell it in exchange for food or mystery street dope that won't get their methadone ass high at all, unless it's a fent hotspot in which they just OD without euphoria. A shame either way.

If OP could control himself, he could truly quit his job, taper off from 180 to 100 in a month or less, and then sell the 80mg a day for $58400/yr, call it $50000 for bulk distributer price. Methadone is 10x stronger than oxycodone mg for mg so you really could sell methadone for like $5/mg easy, $3/mg in bulk no problem. So that guy buys it for $50000 and sells it for over $75000. I'm sure it would make some dank ass lean drink or whatever lol.

Im sure the darknet would buy him out every month. Then OP just says to the IRS that he quit his job and started a couple self employed businesses, like dog walking, house sitting, baby sitting, Craigslist flipping, you name it. And $50k is not enough for them to look into it, all they care about is taxing your $50k and taking their 33% cut.

This guy really could be living the good life. Imagine how many bupe or methadone patients who would buy methadone when they run out or low, heroin users trying to get off or avoid WD, opiate noobs that just want to try it, or pill users that refuse to go to smack but want something stronger and longer lasting.

Could you guys not see how methadone that's 10x stronger than oxycodone mg for mg should cost 5-…
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Nicholas Mangernack - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 11:41:42 EST ID:o4NsypiJ No.565863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565862

Again you underestimate how much people want their methadone, that dose certainly took a while to get to and I don't know many addicts comfortable with dropping down that low, I see it daily since I'm in a methadone clinic. I'm on 100mg and I wouldn't sell a mg but it's different for everyone. Also there are people in my clinic who get their whole amount too after they are clean long enough, I'm interested to see how his operates. Oh yeah and the fact that if you get caught selling that shit you can most likely kiss your script goodbye. I don't really expect people to understand what it's like if they haven't been in a methadone clinic before
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Priscilla Wenderwill - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 12:28:42 EST ID:XubhI/0M No.565868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565862
it's ironic because oxycodone and hydrocodone are actually more expensive where I live than methadone. I think you would have a hard time selling for multiple dollars on the MG. The most expensive I've seen methadone was $1 a MG pricing but generally it is cheaper. I live in SE USA


/opi/ Comradery Thread by Don Enrique - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 02:43:29 EST ID:rEKE3TuQ No.565840 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/opi/ has seen more OD stories lately than usual, some pretty harsh ones too. It's times like these when the people of /opi/ need some love. /opi/ is one of those boards that isn't shit, a real gem. There aren't many noob questions, trolling is minimal, and discussion is pretty civil. Maybe that's because we're all high on opiates, but I digress. If you've lost somebody to overdose, or really to anything, remember that a bunch of strangers on the internet genuinely care about you.

This thread is for people to show support in.
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Nathaniel Worthingwill - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:25:12 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.565844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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For the pharmacodynamic Tolerance of Morphine type one sees a decrease in the number of receptors (down-regulation) and on the other hand, an increase in the density of Adenylate Cyclases (up-regulation). When chronic stimulation of the Opioid-receptors occurs, the cAMP-forming enzyme is permanently inhibited. The organism reacts to this constant inactiveness by forming more Enzyme-Proteins (Adaptation). The decrease in the presynaptic Opioid-receptors and the thus increase in the Enzyme forces an increase in the formation of cAMP which leads to an decrease of the inhibiting effect of the opioids on the neurotransmitter release. This adaptation is for the opioids i.e. in the nozizeptive System, the most probable mechanism in the development of tolerance: the small number of inhibiting, presynaptic contacts must be compensated through an increase in activity resp. through a larger influx of opioids. The endstation organ is decreasingly responsive. Tolerance from morphine type is observed by all opioids which cause euphoria.
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Eugene Sammerhit - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:44:26 EST ID:rEKE3TuQ No.565845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565844
I feel you man.
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Martin Migglekig - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:05:41 EST ID:iVtQ3HeV No.565846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not necessary. This place is already depressing enough.
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Hugh Bungold - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 04:33:28 EST ID:wybSOh6/ No.565847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565842

hey man, i'm not like, spiritual or religious or anything remotely like that.... but i want you to know that i'm sending you some SLAYER. to you, and to everybody that's in your spot. i've been there. be careful, and i believe in you. stay safe.
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Alice Duppershaw - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 08:02:40 EST ID:t28DacXc No.565854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My dad was a pretty bad polysub drug abuser, but his love was defiantly for heroin. It was sad all those years taking care of the fool when he was out of his mind half asleep in his good. Watching him steal and be in and out of jail and always bringing trouble around. He had been part of some robbery and was gonna get a 15 sentence but died shortly after he was on release for a couple weeks. We aren't sure how he died but it was defiantly drug related since they found him literally passed out in a gutter with a needle on him. The usual story I guess of forgetting you built a tolerance while locked up.

I hated seeing him like that as it was all I really knew him as. I wish he could've gotten off it and lived to see a better life, but whatever was haunting him had him and I guess it is what it was.

I see myself kind of following his steps. I'm glad I had nothing on me because I was passed out in a walkway under the bridge down by our river just coming in and out of it. The cops found me and I was put in the hospital because at the time I guess I was rambling about killing myself. Since then I've managed to cut my use to weekly but I still use and feel miserable every time I manage to go a week or so without it. It's like being in a loop and I'm defiantly not the worst off but I just manage to get myself into weird situations while using I guess. Shitty area + Shitty people. Either way it sucks and I hope yall stay good.


Overdosed by Ian Goddlechock - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 07:16:36 EST ID:3UJd2EGA No.565597 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've just been released from the hospital for an overdose. I haven't been charged or anything. Will they report this to child services Mcfd? I live in Canada, my child wasn't with me and was safely at another family members home. I am extremely worried this was the first time i used after a very long clean period. I made a huge mistake I can't let this ruin our lives
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ChrisTopHer - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 12:38:30 EST ID:nxnOa4LH No.565613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565601
I don't think I could've given you better advice than this. Nb
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Cedric Gaffingkon - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 18:22:35 EST ID:QwLEi2yv No.565692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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what color is pst suppossed to be after its done? i always feel like i shake too long.
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Shit Cladgeson - Sun, 25 Sep 2016 21:26:15 EST ID:KwTKHvTY No.565701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565692
nigga wrong thread, for real I'm sure it wasn't intentional or nothing but goddamn bro, not the place to ask about bullshit like that. NB
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Jarvis Semmerfick - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:39:11 EST ID:x8l8qJZ7 No.565825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Does this mean that if Mcfd receives a report from the hospital they won't automatically remove my child from my care? I don't know if anyone has experience with this that can share some input. My child was with a safe family member at the time. I know I made a terrible mistake using I won't do it again. I am so worried this mistake might cost us the great life we've made together.
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Jarvis Semmerfick - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:40:45 EST ID:x8l8qJZ7 No.565826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565825
Note: i found this excerpt in a child protection in "current province" guide


It seems impossible to get any opiates how do i find them by Phineas Dammerled - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 08:53:37 EST ID:1DQAyM+3 No.565744 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I would just be doing kratom but its getting banned how do i find opiates in dfw texas other than heroin

Im in severe pain and only 21 so i get nothing prescribed to me its miserable emotional physical pain i need morphine
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Betsy Cegglefone - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 09:55:43 EST ID:yWvCz/L+ No.565746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565744
Poppy seed tea. how do you not know about it? that will give you the morphine you want.
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Reuben Duckman - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:12:46 EST ID:rdbflkGd No.565748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heroin is morphine with two acetyl groups added to it so it crosses the blood brain barrier more easily. It gets turned into morphine again once it reaches your brain. You need morphine, there you go. Just don't shoot it. Unless you want to be addicted.
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Charlotte Hunderbare - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 19:57:04 EST ID:bhJsFY2n No.565810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>565744
The internet, dummy. Either darkweb it or do RC vendors that sell fentanyl analogues, since there's probably no U-47700 left with the incoming ban.
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:37:00 EST ID:Qi3rAVuP No.565824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
as pointed out, diamorphine (the big scary HEROIN) is essentially morphine. Just to clear up the bullshit fear-mongering of years of propaganda that people still buy in to.

anyway just get a script for some hydros or some shit if you have such 'severe pain' issues


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