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BWN by Charles Clovingpet - Thu, 26 Mar 2015 17:11:00 EST ID:xMN5tqRa No.520012 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old BWN is finished.

Let's do it!
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Thants - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:48:56 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.522016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Was sceptical today that the bupe I had been taking would prevent the 3kg of seeds I got my hands on. Luckily I guess I had waited enough time because it's now 12hr since I started drinking the tea and the nods are coming on strong, oh and that itch.... THHHHAAAATTT IIIITTTCHHHH. fuck it's almost annoying lol.

BWN br/opi/s
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 08:14:11 EST ID:eofUdbPT No.522026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Doubt you'll w/d at all, unless you were consistently redosing the hydromorph every hour or something. Might get some minor symptoms, but you'll be fine I reckon. I can't tell you how long your tolerance will take to reduce because it depends on so many individual factors, and I've never bothered to do a tolerance break myself - I just use every day lol and increase my dose occasionally.

did a shot of h about 5mins ago. Quite a creeper batch; didn't get any rush and I'm still sort of coming up. Oh well, it feels okay. Time for bed + simpsons
pstfiend - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 08:25:24 EST ID:mdwGhZPA No.522027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
im doing a heroic dose like that on monday
Edwin Picklock - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 08:28:45 EST ID:5EfyEfhd No.522028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Theres no heroic dose with opiates.
Either you die,either you don't.
Emma Bonningdock - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 08:34:44 EST ID:9+9PRYAD No.522029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just ripped some oxycodone first thing in the morning before work in the shop been working straight sinces last monday tired as fck

BWN niggas

semi-Synthetic opioids by Rebecca Bloblingdale - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 06:13:02 EST ID:tXq/l30D No.522019 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So out of the 4 popular semi-synthetic opioids, those being:
Hydromorphone, Oxymorphone
Which is your favorite and why? past and current heroin users, how do each compare to heroin for you? Is there any synthetic opioids that you consider superior? Semi Synthetic discussion thread basically. My favorite is hydromorphone, I find it to be less itchy and sedating than heroin (which just makes me pass out lol) with a small cut to the euphoriant activity, which makes it much more worthwhile than heroin to me because I can't stand the itch or stay awake when I ride the H train. Also quick question I've been using Hydromorph for 3 weeks now insufflated I'm up to 12-16mg a night now how long will it take for my tolerance to go down, will I get withdrawals, and if so how bad? Pic related, Dilaudid 2s
n1 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:14:48 EST ID:5EfyEfhd No.522021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You realise heroin is semi/synthetic right?

No opi is "really" superior to another(apart from potency/duration)

Rebecca Bloblingdale - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:22:51 EST ID:tXq/l30D No.522023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yes, I fully realize heroin is semi-synthetic, it can be included in this discussion as well I suppose but I was more refering to the ones currently in pharmaceutical use. I haven't tried Oxymorphone yet but I love hydromorph.
Rebecca Bloblingdale - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:32:48 EST ID:tXq/l30D No.522024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, I guess no opiate is "truly" superior, but I mean everyone has a preference right, I'm interested in hearing what subjective effects people experience from their opiates of choice. Like I prefer hydromorphone, the body high feels heavy to me I don't really wanna move or do anything just listen to music and draw or play games, it also doesn't have much of an itch for me and it's moderate-heavy sedating. Whereas when I take oxycodone I feel very light, I often wanna walk around and do things I get very itchy even on low doses and it's only light-moderate sedating. nb because double post.
n1 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:54:30 EST ID:5EfyEfhd No.522025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Codeine make me ultra nauseous but it's otc and cheap over here.

I have no one i know who could sell me something semi/synth such as oxy/hydro or even H. i would love that.

The quest for a dealer with H in a small city where even weed is almost non existant....

Opiates as nootropics by Nigel Cepperfuck - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:50:23 EST ID:UIeatYrE No.522017 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I never noticed this before since my opi use is extremely infrequent (Maybe 3-4 times a year in low doses, usually for a real medical problem) but I feel like I have enhanced cognitive functions from oxy. I worked on a music project I've been doing for a couple years (I'm trying to make glitch hop currently) while on 10mg of oxy and felt like I could think much clearer and efficiently. I got a lot of work done, and best of all, I had patience to work out the finer details.

Has anyone noticed opiates making them more mentally efficient, specifically oxy? Obviously this doesn't include the doses where you're drooling on yourself slumped over in the corner of your bed, just low doses.
n1 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 07:17:17 EST ID:5EfyEfhd No.522022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anxiolitic effect from opiate is common.

+oxy is sightly stimulating

Not nootropic but like benzo's they'll make working and thinking more apreciable and rewarding.

whats grinds your junkie gears by Reuben Greenfoot - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:45:53 EST ID:ZW/1GBR6 No.521961 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>when you ask and ask and ask if they are OC's or IR oxy "yeah yeah man ofc" shows up with fuckin OP's wanting a dollar a mg
>when dealers get pissed over stupid shit (like above) and stop selling to you
>when a dealer will sell pot via text/call, then when you ask for opis they freak out cause "the feds are listening/watching"
>when a junkie sells you some OTC bullshit and then acts like it was a mistake, then stops responding
>people who do dope around there kids
>when people think they know what its like to be addicted, then give advice

that last one gets me the most, my retarded neighbor thinks she was addicted to morphine IN 8TH GRADE. her boy friend would steal the pills from his mom and they would split a 30mg ER morphine pill between the both of them like twice a week. now her friend is coming off heroin and she is saying shit like "oh yeah girl, i totally know what its like, remember i was addicted to morphine, but i got through it, it was one of the hardest things ive ever done" here whole thing with morphine lasted like a month WHEN SHE WAS IN MIDDLE SCHOOL, before her boyfriend got ratted out for selling a couple of them. grgrrrrrr
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 00:17:40 EST ID:hqI/DGmM No.521975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which fascination??
Walter Grandshaw - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 00:26:23 EST ID:h4b14k7V No.521976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'll be there in an hour
>takes at least 5 hours
and every variant of it that we're all familiar with. Thank god the two people I usually go through now actually mean it when they say a time, sometimes they'll even catch me off guard by being early.

>when you think you found a big chunk of dope on the ground but it turns out to just be a rock
>when you're prepping a shot and accidentally tip the spoon a bit and spill the entire thing out
>when you register fine, push the plunger down without feeling any pain, then your arm swells up and goes numb around where you shot because somehow you missed anyway
Priscilla Druttingsure - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 01:09:41 EST ID:lzVoDsSI No.521980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty much everything if I'm forced to go a prolonged period without muh drugs
nz !!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 06:10:48 EST ID:eofUdbPT No.522018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What grinds my gears? Inconsistency. That's about it. I can take the scumbaggery, waiting, theft, liars, criminals, chances of prison and everything else that comes with a proper habit but for gods sake please be consistent.
Rebecca Bloblingdale - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 06:22:19 EST ID:tXq/l30D No.522020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hate incosistency, when I was doing H I once bought tar for a week because I couldn't find any Type 3 but one day I bought a quarter G smoked the whole thing and had a decent nod the next day I bought the same smoked 2 or 3 hits off the foil and passed right out.
But this one really gets me:
>Xmgs are 10$ right?
>get there
>we only have Xmgs for 15$
>only have 10$

TRAMADOL OVERDOSE PLEASE HELP by Eliza Clundermatch - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 00:32:37 EST ID:lw0Foaij No.521977 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I TOOK 800MG OF TRAMADOL. 400mg at 2:30pm and another 400mg at 8pm. I'm not having seizures, but I'm nauseous and dizzy and my hands and feet are cold and clammy. It feels almost like it is hard to breath and my pulse feels weak.

I'm not shaking or twitching, but I am in the middle of a secluded area that's only accessible by ferry. It would take over 3 hours for an ambulance to reach me and even longer to drive myself, but I just want to know if I'm going to die or stop breathing. I'm really really scared, I'm never going to do this again but is 800mg going to stop my heart?

Its impossible to get a hospital from here, I the last tramadol about 3 hours ago. Is there anything I can do to help? Should I try keeping awake through the night and taking cold showers? God I don't want to die.
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Eliza Clundermatch - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:30:02 EST ID:lw0Foaij No.521996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know what's going on, I feel I'm in a life and death struggle to remember to keep breathing. Like I just held my breath for 1 minute and 40 seconds as if it was nothing. I feel no different right now as I'm forcing my self to breathe slowly and deeply than when I just held my breath. I feel dizzy and like I'm going to pass out yet I can hold my breath for almost 2 minutes without thinking about it. In fact I forced myself to breath after 1 minutes and 40 seconds because it felt like I could hold my breath forever but I knew I'd pass out. I don't understand what's going on. I just want to go to sleep but I keep gasping for breath and now I'm too scared and I'm fighting to stay awake I fill like I'm suffocating and I cant keep my eyes open for very long and when I do I get double vision and everything is blurry. I seriously feel like I'm suffocating. holy shit I just want to breathe.
n1 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:49:35 EST ID:+EbHXBcJ No.522002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thats a panic attack.
You can type fine,if you where nodding way too hard you would be typing like this.

Hhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaay ggggferdduys how is iiit going on?
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:39:46 EST ID:eofUdbPT No.522006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a panic attack. I know that doesn't make it feel any less 'real' to you at this time. But the doses you've taken will not kill you through respiratory depression, which is essentially the only way that an opioid will end your life. You're not going to have a heart attack. Your heart isn't going to stop. You've just taken a bit too much so you're feeling sick as a result. You'll be back to baseline in a few hours.
William Waddlelock - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:46:03 EST ID:dKTjNyBN No.522008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember I punched above my weight with Tramadol, got really nauseous and started to breath shallow, time disappeared completely, i was sitting down nodding off and when I got to get up off the couch my legs buckled under me. I fucking lost my shit, ran a cold shower and plunged my head in to get me around and then stayed up because I was afraid I'd die in my sleep.

Don't let anxiety creep on you br/opi/ ride it out.
Thants - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:45:18 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.522015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get horrible anxiety whenever I take Tramadol, I read that smoking weed on trams is supposed to be a good time but honestly it sent me into a few panic attacks. I also think weed lowers my seizure threshold with trams too. I remember after taking an 800mg dose (small doses spaced out through the day) I experienced involuntary twitches and spasms and I feel like if I hadn't fought off the urge to just let my body go loose and twitch out I would have had a full on grand-maul seizure. I believe this is what the "tramadol shake test" is, that is thinking you're almost in seizure territory and allowing yourself self to open up to the possibility of having a seizure by allowing the twitching to take over.

Anyone here ever experienced a tramadol seizure?

Opium-Substitute by Wesley Ponderstock - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 16:43:25 EST ID:aNhAhWyt No.521945 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Since I find Heroin boring, but it is the only /opi/ I have access to: Is there any drug combination with Heroin and something else that would mimic the effects of Opium? Bonus: Is there a drug combination that mimics the effects of Soma from Aldous Huxley's Brave New World?
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Alice Fombleshaw - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:04:22 EST ID:nIJcUKll No.521993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never tried Soma with heroin, but Ive banged it on its own and it has a weird disassociating effect, and I feel like inanimate objects are self aware, have feelings ect..
Thants - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:09:07 EST ID:Qo3lpRF5 No.521994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The "soma plant" refers to an ancient name given to opium by ancient Persians and Hindus. Seeing as how Aldous Huxley is damn near ancient himself I could see how that reference to opium could still be relevant to someone, somehow.
Priscilla Druttingsure - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:12:04 EST ID:lzVoDsSI No.522003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Aha yeah I thought we were talking about the book. I wasn't even aware there was a pharm called soma
Jenny Cungerworth - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:20:31 EST ID:7G3pUVkR No.522011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a muscle reaxant, think its a gaba agonist. Goes by the name Carisoprodol.
Jenny Cungerworth - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 05:24:56 EST ID:7G3pUVkR No.522013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Would be wild to find Soma. The hindu kush valley/northwest frontier Pakistan has been heavily neglected post 19th century due to safety fears, shit the greatest civilation hybrid took place not far from Peshawar, Pakistan a blend of Greek aesthetics and Buddhist thought. I always wanted to travel north (currently in Lahore) to catalogue and assay different plant species for medicinal value... I guess it is possible and I may just get the chance to travel with the right resources and who knows what could pop up. The opium and hash up there is prett damn good too.

meth taper help by Cornelius Nishpare - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:04:07 EST ID:nIJcUKll No.521914 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys.
So Ive been on methadone for 6 months now and Ive been at 60mg. Well I think its time to get off this shit. The longer I wait the harder its gon be. So I havent got a chance to talk to a counselor yet, so Ive been leaving some liquid left in the cup when I toss it as a form of a crude taper method. Is it possible for me to complete the detox in 2 months with relative ease?

Im thinking of dropping 5mg a week. My dad gets a prescription for clonidine for his high blood pressure so Ill have some of those. Also I ordered some RC benzos online (Clonazolam).

Does this sound good? Also I was wondering, so when I get down to like 10mgs, if I decide to jump off, is it possible to use some heroin(very little) to stave off insomnia, rls, sweats, without ruining the taper? Id rather have heroin in my system than methadone because of the whole half life situation. (and yes I realize using H is a bad idea but im not worried about becoming addicted or strung out on the stuff, im not looking to get high anymore I just wanna be free).

And I do have a very fast metabolism too(which may help me out) Whenever I missed my dose at the clinic I would get sick, even though most people can go 2-3 days without dosing. And when I detoxed off a 2 year IV heroin habit, I was physically fine after 5 days.
Cornelius Nishpare - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 12:07:06 EST ID:nIJcUKll No.521915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One more thing, if it turns out Ill need more clonidine than my dad can hook me up with, how do I go about getting a script for it? Ive read that you can just tell your doctor that youre gunna be coming off methadone and they will prescribe it, but Im worried that they might blacklist me knowing that I take methadone and I wont be able to get meds in the future. Anyone have info on this?
Ebenezer Drerringstore - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 18:06:33 EST ID:ZW/1GBR6 No.521951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
60mg of methadone isnt awhole lot. yeah w/d sucks but its what we all signed up for. imo when you get those clonzolam pills just cold turkey it. the worst of it is over in 5 days, i only think tapers are needed for benzos (also be careful you dont trade addictions).

the thing about tapering with opis is when your sick your sick, it will never be painless and all your doing is drawing it out for a very long time. if your serious about getting off of it i would just take like 5-10mg a day for three days or so, then go to 0 and start taking like .5mg of clonzolam a day. i know it sound rough but it will be better than a 2-3 month taper.

if you dont want to take my advice i would drop by 10mg a week, not 5.
Hamilton Fuckingforth - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:43:32 EST ID:nR9LHQr7 No.521957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dude taper off the methadone and get some Clonidine and some benzos when I detox I take a shit ton of xanax or clonazpam and black out also get gabapentin to help kill the rls completely. Op its never a walk in the park but if you have a good doc he will help you do this and dont worry about black listing that is only per doctor not like you cant get drugs again latter. Man My moms tried killing himself like 8 times and they never stopped him from getting scripts even filled it at the pharmacy that he got all the other scripts filled
Also get some stuff to prevent nausea
Alice Fombleshaw - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:00:34 EST ID:nIJcUKll No.521991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the advice all. Normally I would just tough out the withdrawals but Im trying to hold down this job I just recently got. Its 5 days a week, semi-physical labor so Id rather not be TOO sick. But I think I will drop down more than 5mg a week. I feel like 10 should be doable.
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 03:49:01 EST ID:eofUdbPT No.522009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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60mg of methadone IS a lot. It's more related to the amount of time the drug has had to consistently build up in your system, and in this case 6 months is a fairly long period. The worst of it won't be over in five days - more like twenty days plus. Methadone really is hellish to come off.

Anyway, why rush the detox? What's with the obsession of going as fast as possible? Is there something wrong with staying on the 'done for slightly longer so you can remain functional/comfortable during the taper? The answer is no. Just speak with your case worker or whoever it is and go down with what they recommend and don't be afraid to reduce the speed of the taper if you start feeling w/d badly. After all, you say that you're trying to hold down your job, so I think that it's especially important that you taper at a reasonable speed.

ciagrettes&Opiates by Priscilla Druttingsure - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 01:19:09 EST ID:lzVoDsSI No.521984 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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every time I do any sort of Opi it is absolutely mandatory that I have a smoke during the come up. like as soon as I take in that first lungful of smoke I can feel the nods a'commin' . Anybody else feel the same way?
nate !heROinWJT. - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 01:30:11 EST ID:+zc65CGO No.521985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep. Most people in fact. At least everyone who smokes will agree. They go together like bread and butter.
Alice Fombleshaw - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 01:51:18 EST ID:nIJcUKll No.521989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yup yup. If I dont have cigs I feel like the high will be wasted lol. Its actually kinda fucked up. As soon as I get high I try to smoke down as many squares as I can cause it feels so good. Once the high wears off cigs suck lol.
Priscilla Druttingsure - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:38:24 EST ID:lzVoDsSI No.521997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah man that's how I feel as well. I'm just sorta pissed off because now these two habits are so intertwined it's just costing me more cash. I don't even enjoy smoking while sober... Or even while the Suns out for that matter lol. Fuck it though man, feels too good
Shit Gommlepuck - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:42:32 EST ID:qIPmgh2p No.521999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Opiates dramatically reduce noradrenaline output. Nicotine reverses this,

Done & MJ by George Driddlestock - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:03:02 EST ID:SqDq3VhO No.521920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A wonderful combo
What's your favorite opi/whatever combo?
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Ebenezer Drerringstore - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 17:57:24 EST ID:ZW/1GBR6 No.521949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no going to lie and say i dont smoke weed with my opis, but i only buy hash oil these days and i find it overpowers the bliss of opiates
Priscilla Borrywater - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 18:08:13 EST ID:Q7ydC6zN No.521952 Ignore Report Quick Reply

in 2010 when i was still in highschool i would snort 20-40mg oxycodone (cdn 40's for 15 a pop ... :'( lol ) right before class and take 180-300mg codeine in the form of t3s. id be nodding balls in my first class from the oxy then by the time i went out for a smoke break at like 1030 the codeine would hit me and i'd just be chink-eyed the whole fuckin day draggin my feet around the halls...

im lucky i was a 90+ student otherwise that probably would have raised a few questions lmao. i remember my calculus teacher (vice principal) asking me on two seperate occasions why the hell i was itching my face so much. i replied "histamine reaction". ahhhhh high school
Walter Grandshaw - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 00:16:34 EST ID:h4b14k7V No.521974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit, I don't even smoke weed with it that often or take l-theanine (What does this do, by the way?), but I find that a nice shot of dope followed by a good strong cup of coffee is fucking amazing. The dope gets rid of any mild anxiety caused by the caffeine and for some reason the coffee makes the dope seem much more euphoric
n1 - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:10:39 EST ID:+EbHXBcJ No.521995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/del/+/opi/ take the trophy.

Earth shatering nods.
If only del wasn't so fucking bad health wise.
Sophie Gannerfield - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 02:43:44 EST ID:I/F+i9WS No.522000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oxycodone, IV meth/heroin (same rig), xanax, weed, and dexedrine. I used to be quite fond of dilaudid, xanax, and weed back in the day as well

T3's by Edwin Blatherbury - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:52:17 EST ID:nZ2uQ2+5 No.521970 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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2500mg paracetamol. Is this okay to take over the span of 2 hours? Not a heavy drinker and haven't taken tylenol like ever.
Ebenezer Brennermig - Sun, 19 Apr 2015 00:01:00 EST ID:Q7ydC6zN No.521972 Ignore Report Quick Reply

youre fine up to 4g apap/day.

thats per day. 4000mg doses of apap once in awhile are not excessively dangerous. 2500mg is fine

How much fucking codeine do i have to do? by Polly Ponkinpit - Thu, 16 Apr 2015 02:58:01 EST ID:Q3M2OhU+ No.521816 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've done 100mg codeine and its WEAK AS FUCK, like mild sedation at best.

How much is a good dose considering this? Maybe, 180-200mg?

I don't have any antihistamine though.
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Jarvis Muttingforth - Thu, 16 Apr 2015 21:05:28 EST ID:9+9PRYAD No.521871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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pop 2 t3s and get high? thats laughable. Maybe when you were 10 years old
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 17 Apr 2015 22:50:57 EST ID:BmDkYdRY No.521874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just because you have shitty tolerance, doesn't mean you have to shit on everyone who has any lower than you.
I remember my first opiate. One T3 used to control a searing bacterial infection digging into the root of two of my teeth at once. They gave my Tylenol 3 and i'm like "wtf. I can just go buy these in stores. I don't give a shit - give me something strong".
Without ever hearing of opiates before, I took it and I was high off my ass for at least 4 hours - pain still there.

Before you start calling it a placebo effect, just know that I had no idea what opiates were or what they did back then.
The same went with my 98lb mongoloid friend (who's still 98 lbs. she's just short) who I gave one to saying these were "awesome" and she got even higher than I did. I really want to give her some 5mg oxycodone and see what her reaction to that would be lol.
n1 - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 03:20:41 EST ID:+EbHXBcJ No.521890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not about tolerance.
It's sensivity to opiates and metabolisation.
If you are a goos metaboliser+opiate naive+ sensitive to opiates+lightweight.

90mg can get one high.

But for some who are the opposite,200mg is a minimum.
Charlotte Lightspear - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 18:49:28 EST ID:5iuXHlsj No.521955 Ignore Report Quick Reply

180-200 sounds good. Also go with a completely empty stomach, as in four hours, your stomach is growling empty. Also make sure you aren't doing anything really involved. Just chill out on your bed for maximum effects because codeine is subtle. Codeine can be comfy as fuck but it is quite mild, especially if you have other opiate experience.
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 22:05:51 EST ID:hqI/DGmM No.521967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Very true. I almost always conflate them.

But yes. My entire point was that one T3 codeine can very much get someone high. Especially short mongoloids (the actual genetic people - not fucking mongs)

Kratom E liquid by Angus Sossleford - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 11:05:42 EST ID:av5lf8Nh No.521911 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone know if Kratom can be vapoo?
I work at a smoke shop and some guy gave me some stuff called setu for my ecig and it kind of gave me a nice little buzz. Everybody I ask says it might be a kratom e liquid, which I highly doubt works, but have seen online... anyone try it yet?
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Martha Trotway - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 13:25:17 EST ID:qhH1A8GZ No.521925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ie, same dose as nicotine. I certainly wouldn't believe any product like this, it'd need to use pure 7-HM and it would cost so much more to extract or synthesise
John Fummleworth - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 19:00:28 EST ID:U0Q2moRE No.521956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao you're retarded. Someone with no tolerance can get high as fuck to the point of almost nodding with like 4g. That's like two spoonfulls.

If you do have a tolerance, then idk why you'd be using kratom then, unless you're trying to manage w/ds
Emma Bonningdock - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:09:44 EST ID:9+9PRYAD No.521958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I bought 50grams of 25x kratom extract and it was garbage it didn't even give any effects idk if I got ripped off or what but normal kratom works better lol sucks cuz the extract is way more $$
Martha Pickshit - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:33:55 EST ID:U0Q2moRE No.521959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Def go with regular kratom.

I get 50g containers for like $75 of powdered. Just eat it straight, it's nasty but its hard and fast. It's not much more worse than PST, if you put the powder in pills it can take like 2 hours to hit and it's not as strong
Reuben Greenfoot - Sat, 18 Apr 2015 20:57:37 EST ID:ZW/1GBR6 No.521962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>"almost" nodding

yeah, thats all kratom will ever do for you. i dont even use it, ive just tried it a few different times. your point is still moot, even if it takes 4 grams, think about that... in liquid, through the lungs. good luck finding anything with that kind of solubility, and even if you did your taking about chiefing down like 4-5 tanks of juice just to get "almost buzzin". then you get into the chemistry of the active compounds and find out they most likely need to be metabolized by enzymes before they are even psychoactive, and on top of that the vaporizing point is probably to high or too low for even the best mods. the suns would have to align for something like this to actually work. and yeah the extracts are bullshit, they are made from the left overs from powder and there version of an extract is like three runs through the same byproduct with iso.

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