/opi/ Opiate Discussion
Serious question guys.Im not new to opiates in general but my experience with h is limited.I've smoked opium latex quite a lot and most street h I get (brown) is similar in smell, but apart from that I don't really know any other indicator of quality, and I was wondering to what extent would it be safe to snort.Thanks in advance fellows.
>>600338That's cool, so then it would be kinda opposite to smoking meth.Good to know, ill keep it in mind, wonder if meth pipes come in different thickness lol
water will cause h to break down into m. Iirc after 8-12hrs, either 50-100% of the h will be m. so its pretty significant if it sits for more than a couple hours. I would add lil ALCAR with the h, since it increases nasal absorption
ANYONE HERE IN KENTUCKY? SPECIFICALLY LOUISVILLE??
>>600365Nashville here, GG scrub ;)
okay yeah there's the whole foil/lighter/chasing the dragon thing, but it seems kind of retarded to smoke off aluminum foil every single time (i mean smoking heroin is pretty retarded on its own but you know). can i just mix it in a bowl with some bud? or basically what i'm getting at is how do i smoke this shit in a way that won't consume an indefinite amount of tinfoil
>>600299it can take up to 100-200+ doses before getting legit dopesick but if you use with any regularity you will get sick one day with no warning. once you get sick theres no going back
>>600320>100-200+ doseswhat? most people will have first signs of withdrawals after 7-10 days of using
>>600312can't you use an oil pipe like for dmt or meth? sorry if i sound stupid i'm just confused as to why foil is so much better>>600317>literally the world's tiniest saddest violinthis seems a little better than the foil as paperclips take up less space and produce less waste as a whole
>literally the world's tiniest saddest violin
>>600317Can you expand upon the paper clip method a bit?I’m kind of confused like how you put the dope onto the paper clip and what you mean by playing the violin exactlyLike do you literally rub the one paper clip against the other like you would a violin?
>>600328I dont think that's true. many people get a hangover after using for a week or 2 but not actual dopesickness I prefer the paperclips to foil since its very easy to waste a lot of gear with foil, even if youre experienced. worst that can happen with paperclip is your dope falls off, depending on cuts. I usually get sticky black or red tar dope so it is easy to put on paper clip. I dunno for powder unless you can melt it on thereI hold the dope clip still and move the hot clip back and forth so its very easy to control the temperature you gear gets to. this while inhaling through a straw. its been awhile but i think you can taste it when you vape it right since you dont want to see smoke
As it says, so shall it be: Bump While Nodding. Of course that seems a little impossible without a bunch of nfagjnkm g ok?", but whatever. Let Isis aid you through our God ,Morpheus, and just hope she don't take your ass to the underworld too. ;)>Haven't bumped this bitch in 'bout a minute, and never made a BWN either. BWN - 2lb SN seeds, 2g ASA, a puff of the nug and away I go!.. To get amphs for my pussy tolly; been opi-pure now for almost two years - Imagine that.
>Haven't bumped this bitch in 'bout a minute, and never made a BWN either. BWN - 2lb SN seeds, 2g ASA, a puff of the nug and away I go!.. To get amphs for my pussy tolly; been opi-pure now for almost two years - Imagine that.
Did a mixed shot of heroin and oxy for the first timew in my 10+ year opi career and i gotta say, this is bomb diggity. also why it make me feel slutty and more than a little bit highly sexual? idk, im high tho anfd i wanna fuck this cute guy that wants to kick it tonight. yisss
Just bought some more coke and dealer gave free bag of fentdope for waiting 2 hr to show up. I'm on subs right now. Ive done this before and even tho I was on subs the fent made me nod. Anyone know if i take subs again tomorrow will i precipitate WD?
Popped 50mg oxycodone. Feeling really good and soon I'm smoking some great dank that I haven't had the chance to smoke in a long time. Been getting reggie's. So this is a good night so far and it's only getting better. Have a good and high Friday night peeps :)
>>600119BWH50mg d-amph24mg suboxoneliquor
>>600337I dont think you can go into pwd if you take opioids while you have bupe in your system. either way you wouldnt really be addicted to fent/h from just one bag so you wouldnt get pwd anyway, and fent is out of your system asap, i believe.
So I just bought a 1kg bag of poppy seeds from tasmania, got from a grain supplier and there is specks of other plant matter in the bag so i'm assuming they're unwashed. Never made PST but have extensive experience with other opioids/ opiates in the past (oxy, morphine, codeine, fent) Was wondering if I do a half pound wash how much lemon juice should I use? I have a bunch of lemons and was wondering how many to use? Should I use like a whole lemon?Also, when I drink the tea later tonight should I take promethazine for potentiation and itch reduction before or after drinking? Will let you all know how it goes later tonight when I've consumed.
>>600343If only we had an entire thread for these kind of questions....nb
>>600344Could've helped but you just decided to be salty
Op checking in.Its been slightly over 3 hours and I feel a little bit sedated. For the first hour and a half I was sketching I had thebaine poisoning but seems fine now.Just unsure about if the batch of seeds I got were bunk and I only feel the way u do because of 50mg prometh...How long does this shit take to kick in on average?
how'd it go, OP?
I take 600mg of codeine daily and I have these 30mg oxycodone IR pills, what's the equivalent dosage to the codeine?
>>60034710mg oxy = 150 mg codeinehttps://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/EquianalgesicDon't spread bullshit mushbrain
>>600352I used the link i provided above. I think its prob more reliable then Wikipedia. It's not a exact science. Everyones metabolism and body chemistry is different.
>>600358Look buddy I'll give you a quick rundown of why you're retarded.Morphine is the benchmark for opiate dosing, usually.Codeine is 10 times as weak as morphine, and oxycodone is 1,5x as potent as morphine.Which means that 10 mg of oxy equal to about 150 mg of codeine.So when you say 120mg of oxy equal to 600 of codeine you are overshooting it by 200%.This is not wikipedia, this are scientific facts, basic benchmarks medics use to measure opiate's relative potency.It's exact science, so please cease to say shit that's just not true.
>>600359Actually im wrong, you need only 40 mg of oxy to achieve the equianalgesic dose of 600 mg of codeine.That's more than 200x, 120 mg of oxy is more like 1800 mg of codeine, and you said 600.Bro you could kill someone with those shit mathematics, nb.
Discuss all things PST related here. Last thread reached bump limit a while ago.____________I have #1 of BB coming tomorrow, first time ever trying this brand. The only reviews I can find of it are from last year. Last week I went through #2 of FTL and it was the weakest bag I've ever got, and I had been off PST for 8 months prior to it, so having almost no tolerance and it just being barely psychoactive says something. I didn't ever once catch a nod... but BB seems promising. Just never see it discussed on here at all.
So are white seeds basically useless?I went to 8 fucking stores today, all I could find was shitty 70g bags (that are barely active) and white indian seeds. Hoyts hurry the fuck up and stop producing trash, this is killing me
How long for PST to kick in? First time doing PST and I washed bit over a half pound and drank 2/3 of the resultant solution (just to be safe) How long will it take to kick in? Its been roughly half an hour and I feel a bit "strange" but no obvious opi effects or pupil restriction.
>>600350I think it may depend on the alkaloid profile of your particular batch and how quickly you quaffed it but you should have started to feel it. It is probable that your seeds are weak. If so, just wait till tomorrow and try a larger amount. Sorry
>>600354All good mate, thanks for reply. Just drank third wash about 30 minutes ago and drank first cup roughly 5 and a half hours ago.Bit noddy
>>600355You should feel something within 15-20min especially if you're low/no acute tolerance. If you don't feel anything within 40-45min, then it's likely your brew is crappy/bunk. Some alkaloid combinations do take longer to peak than others...I know there's at least one alkaloid similar to thebaine without much direct effects, that metabolizes into another "toxic" opiate similar to thebaine, but the metabolized chemical is supposedly nearly equipotent to morphine. So yeah, it can definitely vary.That said, the onset of morphine should be around ~15-30min, heavily sitting by ~40-50min, and subjectively peak plasma is probably around ~45-75min after ingestion. Sometimes it can take as long as two hours for subjective peak plasma levels. That said, if you aren't feeling shit by the ~40-45min mark, it's highly likely you got trash seeds.Unless you buy the top tier $15/lb seeds from solely one country, you can only get a buzz off "regular" unwashed seeds if your acute opi tolerance is relatively low. Don't expect a lb of Spanish or Tasmanian seeds to do much of anything if you already snort say ~0.25g of mystery fentadope daily. I havent seen the chart in a long while, but Tasmanian were only like 100-200mg of morph MAX per kg of tasmanian, which is just under ~50-100mg morph MAXimum possible per lg. This compares to as high as ~500-1400mg morph per lb, NOT kg, for some of the premium pharma crop. That said, most of the stuff the last two years probably hasnt approached even 1000mg/lb, let alone 1200+. It's probably like ~200-300mg per lb RN of premium pharma seed.also, OP of the other thread...I don't mind helping, but seriously a quality thread died because of your post. The non-PST users don't like it when we have tons of posts in different threads. I say we keep everyone happy. We could use the text traffic in the PST thread anyways...it's been extremely slow lately.BTW, if you buy the premium pharma brands, FYI they're basically closed the next 2 weeks. The main one if closed, but the #2 one might be in service. Their shit has TOTALLY sucked across the board lately though...however getting it direct from #2 is your … Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
Lol been clean of opiates for 3 yearsTake kratom 3 times a day. At 5 grams per doseAcquired two np12s yesterday. So I havent taken any kratom for 18 hours. Took both oxy oral. 20 mg. Kept in mouth sucked on them until they were mush and swallowed them. 4 hours ago. Slight itchy nose. No euphoria. Is kratom nature’s suboxone? I’m very upset. Lol. It was supposed to be fun. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>600261>>600281Kratom is an opiOID, not an opiATE. It has no morphine in the chemical structure, it just works on the same bodily receptors, like tramadol. There's a little cross tolerance, but in my experience the highest ones are with tramadol and oxycodone.
>>600284>>600284i like the cut of your glob friendo
>>600297>>600297OWHWWOAH ITS LITT IN HERE, huuh?https://youtu.be/UX7V-rrjm_E
So I know eating poppy pods is very common place but what about the leaves, stems and leaves ?Upon noticing the seeds from my pst had started to sprout i became very interested in whether the plants contained alkaloids before podding. There is many clear benefits if that is the case.So I waited til 30 days of growth and started eating the plants and guess what, itchy nose, morphine warmth, light opiate buzz.Has anyone else noticed this ?Pic unrelated but hybrid triccho for dat mesc.
Experiences? Is it similar to other painkillers like oxys or hydros? I've heard some people get the relief and some don't.
weaker than hydrocodone, on par with codeine, it's actually a synthetic codeine analogue that also has SNRI properties (and those delicious SNRI withdrawals). ur genetix determine if you get good feels or all the ass side effects lol. also if you take too much you can get seizures. shit's tight tho it lasts like 6+ hours and it's kinda stimmy for the first few hours and then sedating af the rest. best opi to smoke weed on imo. take 50-100mg every 30 minutes to get max BA. no more than 400mg. also it can make u pretty nauseous. shit's aight if you have low/no tolerance and are a good metabolizer of it IMO.
Imo with low tolerance it can feel good as heroin, especially 12-18hrs after dosing from its metabolism into odst. Works better for some than others. Stagger dose 50mg every 20-40min until good. snri effects make it not fun to abuse which is why its easy to get rx'd, also easy to buy on www. does indeed go well with weed. pretty worthless if u have a decent tolerance unless you want to stave off sickness
IIRC, if you get high or fucked up off DXM easily then chances are codeine & likewise tramadol won't work that well as they all metabolize mostly through one enzyme, yet while codeine & tramadol require said enzyme to activate DXM doesn't; the enzyme which metabolizes all three is mainly the CYP2D6 and while the lack of which may get you fucked on DXM easily as well as others, due to it not only being active regardless of metabolization but also by simply prolonging the PPL & HL by inhibiting liver procession, you need said enzyme to get the feelsgoodman effects from tramadol & codeine via their metabolites: O-desmethyltramadol (O-DSMT) & morphine. So the reason you stagger doses is so you maintain a concurrent enzyme production with the doses in a paralleled fashion to consecutively acquire O-DSMT. Not only may one have a low CYP2D6 reproduction rate but there are also many drugs like DPH, DXM, some SSRI's, et cetera which inhibit said enzyme from working consecutively by utilizing them first via metabolization - Though, you have enzyme inducers which help reproduce enzymes as well. Also, tramadol may catalyze a seizure event at high doses; you can take a benzo to prevent this, however.
>>600326both tramadol and codeine work even if they bypass liver with iv/im injection
>>600304It’s effective in helping WDs. I don’t get shit from it other than that but I usually keep a script on me for WDs.
For a European flight, do you think it would be safe to dissolve codeine in water and put that in a mini toothpaste/shampoo tube which then goes in that clear plastic bag to be taken on board? any risk in that? my friend is planning on doing it but i'm worried about sniffer dogs or something, i dunno - I feel like I've just been convinced the the security theater at the airportsits a flight between 2 medium size EU airports.
>>599905Codeine is OTC/not scheduled in pretty much all of the EU, dude...Like check the specific laws regarding the countries you're going to, but I can already say that you're fine in France/UK/Spain/Portugal/NL/Denmark/Sweden.
They don't like you having liquids of any kind. Both the above posters are right as well. Just buy a bottle of vitamins and replace the vitamins with your pills. EZPZ
>not allowed to about taking codeine on a domestic flightLMAO Europe had gotta be the most stallioned country on earth
>not allowed to about taking codeine on a domestic flight
>>600067europe isnt a country retard
hide it in ur fireworks next to your empty sprite bottle filled up with gasoline
soup, I usually drink and smoke a ton but got prescribed these “hydrocodone 5/325s” for an injury and it sucks not being able to drink on them. how long you all think I should wait after taking my last pill before I drink some JD? I took a pill like 13-14 hours ago, and can’t find anything online about my sitch
i think the new fda recommendations are under 1.5g a day and you can have a few drinks. recommend 24hrs minimum between one and the other if you go over. if you took one pill 12 hours ago you can drink, it's just 325mg of APAP. it's just that a lot of alcohol and a lot of apap stressed your liver wild.
>>600307Thank you for the reply, that’s kind of what I gathered. Maybe just a 6pack then, should’ve mentioned I’m 6”4 210lb so (maybe?) my body can handle it.
>>600308If you've only taken one 5mg hydro, you'll be fine drinking a six pack.
look up cold water extraction (CWE) you can easily remove the 325mg apap
Sup, /opi/?My car is still in the shop. Blown gasket valve, outta alignment, two badly worn tires, multi-misfire.Taking longer than it should but percs are making the wait worthwhile.much love to percoset
>>600220sniffing percs gives the best high at least in my personal opinion
>>600234actually that's plugging especially with acetyl l cartanineit's like snorting but better in erry way constipated? enema you only need the bit of your ass near the hole to absorb the drug so enema clears that even if backed up (unless you use a proper enema not just hot water 20 to 100ml) if your a pussy you will keep snorting if your smart you will either oral or plug if you smart and not scared of yourself
>>600236Why the ALC?
>>600234There's so much binder in them that most of the active drug is wasted, sure you might have a faster onset, but it provides much less of a high.
>>600257greatly increases ba o insufflation and plugging. ideally 20m before you dose plug 40mg alc or sniff 20mg
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