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Pain, 24/7... by Isabella Senningchadge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:30:59 EST ID:CXJVt4hm No.591153 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi all. Question, I am in pain 24/7, I’ve had Discectomy with fusion of L4, L5 & S1. I now have Sacral Iliac arthritis, neck pain & fibromyalgia. Blah blah. I see a pain specialist. The problem? He won’t put me on anything for pain. I’ve tried injections, muscle relaxers, heat etc. Nothing helps. Suggestions? I’m trying to workout but it’s wxtre difficult to move around in pain. I try to work through it to no avail.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:32:48 EST ID:V/y9z86z No.591154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591153
Go to a new doctor? What else can you really do? Unless you try kratom and its effective there really arent many viable options.
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Isabella Senningchadge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:35:14 EST ID:CXJVt4hm No.591155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591154
Sadly I live in NYS. No one here gives narcotics. I used to drive into Canada and buy codeine 2’s. Now they’re only available by prescription.


Codeine x Tramadol crosstolerance by Charlotte Biggleham - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:49:05 EST ID:T13pacPp No.591083 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does codeine cross tolerance with tramadol?
Would taking codeine for a few days and then tramadol for a few give you bigger withdrawals?
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dr. m - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:10:34 EST ID:54tyBfjl No.591096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591083

Bigger withdrawals?

Wtf does that even mean? What are you comparing it to?

Do you mean 30 days of codeine vs. 30 days of codeine + 5 days of tramadol? Or do you mean say 5 days of codeine + 5 days of tramadol vs. 10 days of codeine?

Typically cross tolerance is assumed to be less gruesome than direct tolerance. That means that using codeine builds a stronger tolerance to codeine itself than say to tramadol. So switching from one to the other can marginally help with maintaining euphoria, but it's all extremely moot if you use more than twice a week.

The withdrawal is exactly the same severity wise, regardless of the order they're used.

>I'd bet money that OP doesn't even fully understand withdrawals or is otherwise woefully inexperienced
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Hamilton Dazzleville - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:26:03 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.591097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591088
you think there is just one reason.....
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Beatrice Gickleway - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 23:11:41 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.591099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591096
Tramadol is probably has more unpleasant withdrawals due to the SNRI effects. That's assuming they're anything like withdrawals from Effexor and the like.
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Oliver Smallman - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:19:58 EST ID:Lw6gF5DZ No.591151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am so fucking pissed about the lawchange in denmark. Ive some trama left but what the fuck is this even. They literally made it illegal to ship from 1.1.2019 and the supplier gave less than a week's notice, how the heck am I supposed to get new stuff before I run out.
You used to be able to just order it online legally with no strings attached in europe and now it looks like Ill have to learn to darknet just to be able to get out of bed in the morning. Why does this sort of stuff ALWAYS happen when I find something good?
I havent been this mad in years.
I tried DHC but thats just shit.
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Oliver Smallman - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:20:34 EST ID:Lw6gF5DZ No.591152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591151
I obviously meant 2018


BWN by Werrywag von Hohenheim - Tue, 19 Dec 2017 22:22:20 EST ID:dRIqV/zS No.589976 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New BWN old one not bumping.

I actually at an oxycontin formulation with the extended pill matrix. Feeling pretty good but twice as long. Remembr to take test smokes of new random dopes and watch out for fentanyl analogues. Naloxone is best semi-synthetic opiate.

ITT: answer the following
>what are you consuming?
>how are you consuming it?
>what are you doing while on "it"?
Don't forget to smash that mf sandwich button if you're sober.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:07:21 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.591141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm so high atm. I got court in a few hours and while visiting a few drug dealers, people were using the occasion as a chance to get loaded. "Court tomorrow? lets roll a joint then eh" and then while we were out scoring the meth pipe was on the go and they were also offering out GBL and heroin - "Court huh? Well here" and I'm handed a fat bowl of nice crystal or a glass full of waz or a tinfoil with a fat scoop of nice pure locally made #3 - I don't really smoke though so I tried to be polite and just pocketed the shit to share with the bro.

Got home and did up a blast and fuck I'm high man. Like just blurred. Shit's just whizzing by. I really am finding myself loving g a lot. Here it's a common mixer among the meth crowd and I've recently got myself a few sources of it. It really is a great drug. No wonder the fuckers love meth and mls.

We shot a methylphenidate / heroin speedball earlier and then we decided we wanted another shot and so we went off to score.

So off we went and ended up at the second dealer's place. Where I took some more heroin from them ( a different cook) and had a bit of their meth with it. I even smoked a bit of the H and meth since it was on offer and was the polite thing to do. I don't smoke either really but out of being a social mother I had a bit. It's a thing these people like to do together, spinning the ice pipe and boy don't these mother's love it. Had a guy pass me some foil and drop a huge lump of heroin on it too. I got it melted and just folded it up in my pocket for ogp.

Right now I'm listening to some tunes from some animes and sweating and just being high as fuck. Like how good is this anime music atm?
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:21:01 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.591143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591081
How good is the godfather series right? Man I love mafia flicks. Try Millers crossing
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press !//CEObOMBY - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:10:32 EST ID:kkBIhann No.591147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591143
the first two parts are very good movies whereas the third is just a drag
nb
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Thomas de Queasy - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:34:08 EST ID:z1msNQ92 No.591150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Feeling pretty good, had 350mg of M this morning, drank 180mg of done this afternoon, and shot a little more morph while coming up. It was only a rinse but my cookers are also fat as fuck. My scalp was itching before I even withdrew the needle. Nicely completes the done.

BWN!
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Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:36:15 EST ID:V/y9z86z No.591156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591143

Casino is one of my favorites. the departed is another really good one I might actually put that above casino just because leonardo. Nb


Safely dosing mdome by Eugene Pammlebanks - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:28:21 EST ID:ufHZta6h No.590982 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it really as,dangerous as other drug forums make it out to be? Used to be a,daily opi user but havent a decent nod in over a month, so my tol is probably back to baseline. I really want to have a,safe, dope nod but reading forums about people oding redosing is leaving me a bit sketched out pushing doses, specially since i dont have a way to measure how much im dosing. Anyways any advice would be great, thinking of reredosing soon
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Walter Grandstone - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 18:27:10 EST ID:3Nu2KsiH No.591124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591119
Not a chance, that would lead to dependence almost as quickly as taking it everyday but with much greater potential for an OD. The induction period of methadone is generally the most risky
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Phineas Crozzleman - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:07:15 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.591132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591124
This. Methadone has a really long half life.

>>591033
>Then try a nod from fent; it's used for anesthesia for a reason, man.

And what reason would that be? It's used because it has a rapid onset and wears off rapidly, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. Obviously the difference between anesthesia and death is large enough that it's safe to use clinically. The problems with fent arise because often people don't know they've got fent and because the amounts needed are tiny and hard to measure. Is there actually a smaller therapeutic window for fentanyl compared to other opioids (not by weight, obviously)?

I probably should have been clearer and said 'take more gradually'.
If I told myself I wasn't drunk when I was my posting would deteriorate even more. Delusions of sobriety do not improve my decision making or advice giving.
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Phineas Crozzleman - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:11:47 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.591133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591132
Finally found the data I was looking for. Fentanyl actually has a higher therapeutic index than morphine.
"Of the available opioids, fentanyl has a higher therapeutic index than morphine (400 vs 70)"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312206/
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:09:00 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.591142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Methadone is a decent enough opiate to take recreationally. Not very euphoric but certainly quite sedating and long lasting.
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Shit Gullypug - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:29:19 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.591149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591105
Was ambien that got him started and from what I gathered he was a benz guy but he most certainly used opiates.


OTC by Cambodia? - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 08:31:25 EST ID:Z86Q7qN4 No.591080 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I read that in Cambodia you can get a lot of opiate's OTC, is this true?
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Caroline Sillertatch - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 14:20:44 EST ID:mTus6Ib/ No.591111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>591110
codeine and tramadol seems pretty good anyway tbh, travel to a beautifull place and spend every night getting high and getting sucked by a different cambodian prostitute.
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Oliver Fimmlesune - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 15:36:17 EST ID:rBxYgmuW No.591114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591111

They both have ceiling doses so not really.
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Samuel Tootwater - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:23:13 EST ID:mTus6Ib/ No.591128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591114
Yeah but for some it’s pretty cool to be able to get high on vacations with ease.
You don’t have to get ultra high either you know, if you’re there you might aswell enjoy the place and have the opis on the side.
Just my 0,02 cents cuz im mad high on oxy
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Phineas Crozzleman - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:18:16 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.591145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591114
Codeine doesn't have a true ceiling, that's a myth. The histamine release is fierce enough to deter most from high doses though.
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Thomas de Queasy - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:27:27 EST ID:z1msNQ92 No.591148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591145
It kinda does, though, because of enzyme depletion. But it's true that it depends on the individual and that it's not a true ceiling as for buprenorphine.

Having done codeine daily for over a year back when it was still OTC here, I can confirm the intense histamine reaction is the biggest deterrent, but it's not like you should do 400mg if you have no tolerance because it is still possible to OD on codeine, I've seen it happen at 300mg in a somewhat tolerant friend. If you're naive and just work your way up, tolerance to the histamine release builds up steadily, and higher doses get much more enjoyable.


Opioids just seem boring by Fanny Chaddlelock - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 04:32:00 EST ID:01wH5oBA No.591051 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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All they do is give you a euphoric buzz. There's no introspection, hallucinations, dissociation or funky stuff like you'd get with psy/dis/del
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Doris Pullyridge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 01:19:20 EST ID:01wH5oBA No.591135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Another thing is that it seems really artificial to get nothing but euphoria from a drug.
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Rebecca Chunkinlodging - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 05:41:14 EST ID:9t5RKJts No.591136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591135
what about the body high that I get? I do get a change in headspace for sure too, but that may be from other shit I've done in the past.
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Phineas Crozzleman - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 08:16:16 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.591139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591135
To be fair it also seems pretty artificial and unnatural to get open eye visuals, auditory distortions and/or hallucinations, tactile enhancement and/or hallucinations, delusions of enlightenment or the impression that there are spiders everywhere.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 08:46:48 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.591140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember they used to be boring for me til something "clicked" - I remember doing morphine in like my first year of middle school. Getting so high I couldn't lift my head and I was actually uncomfortable. I didn't like it. Then I did oxycodone and found that it just knocked me the fuck out. I would snort a few oxynorms after a drinking session.

Then one day I used it and it just hit the spot. At this point I was smoking weed every night to help sleep and also because my life had really slowed down. I wasn't going to parties all the time and my friends had seemingly all left. Opiates really worked then. Somehow I went from being confident to being weird around people and opiates just helped fix that and closed that gap.

Now days I can't remember what it used to be like before. I guess I miss some of the energy that came with such nervousness and shit. I could do great writing and stuff.
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Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:09:58 EST ID:OHIHxMID No.591146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591058
>You know, I've thought about something interesting. If you're using drugs just to get high and euphoric, then you probably have more issues than the guy using drugs for introspection and to work on your life problems because you use drugs to forget your problems rather than an attempt to solve them (which probably isn't a goof idea with drugs).

FTFY

>>591061
>If you're doing it every day I don't think you'll have many days ahead of you. simply not true. the majority of the board are daily users. that's just scare tactic statistics. there are homeless people in their 60s that have been dope for decades.don't get me wrong I'm not saying go out and starting slamming h but I hear shit like the average life expectation for a heroin user compared to shit like cancer patients.


White seeds and testing by Simon Smallbanks - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 01:44:10 EST ID:toa5v7pu No.591102 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /opi/, how's it going?

Quick question, I possibly have a drug test tomorrow and without realizing it today I ate a few slices of a kind of cake that was topped with some white poppy seeds.

I couldn't find any info but the test is around 18ish hours after I would have eaten them. How likely do you think it'd be the that I can pass?

Thanks /opi/
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:04:22 EST ID:u1VUIVNa No.591131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591102
If you only took even half a cup of unwashed seeds, you should be good; a good majority of these tests measure the percentage in quantity of opioid by color if I'm not mistaken; so if you're "eating" an ungodly amounts of poppy seeds, such as the many a pound you would for poppy piss juice, it will definitely show up. Honestly, poppy seeds baked or raw taste SO much better unwashed because you differentiate the bitter to sweet flavor.

. . .Which is why we also have fake urine, taped to your thigh w/medical tubing tied to your junk.


This is a question easy enough answered by google, but I guess a firsthand answer is always best, however.
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 22:15:46 EST ID:u1VUIVNa No.591134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591131
You could always go to the hospital complaining about extreme pain to the ONLY be most likely prescribed a small shot of morphine; you will be referred to a pain management doctor from there but at least you will have an excuse..

And if they do even question the opiate in your blood(~24-36hr HL)/saliva(~12-24hr HL)/urine(3-5day HL)/Hair(Whatever drug you've had during the length of hair, right?), you can even say that you enjoy straight up eating poppy seeds as a constant snack; may be abnormal, but I've definitely eaten poppy seeds like this.

I'm pretty sure I got thoes HL's for drug testing right, but I haven't looked into drug testing variations or the possible metabolite they may test for in a while..


Codeine Afterglow by Wesley Brookforth - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 06:04:41 EST ID:QyEktDUf No.591107 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone here experience codeine afterglow? I do use fairly low ammount od codeine. About 80mg, and while the experience is rather mild. The next day i do etapu slight euforia and overall pleaseantness and combined with strong tea, pretty lovely stimulation. I did this for three days straight and it didnt stop. Any thoughts, is it common for codeine to work like that? I do remember that I preferred high from codeine that seemed to show itself after 3 hours, which i believe should have been already after peak
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Caroline Sillertatch - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 10:41:47 EST ID:mTus6Ib/ No.591108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591107
What was your question again newfag?
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Esther Davingkod - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:17:27 EST ID:ASRG7EQY No.591115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591108
8ball says outlook unclear.

but the answer is enzymes, op. congrats.
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press !//CEObOMBY - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:50:51 EST ID:n+ENXI3q No.591117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591108
>is it common for codeine to work like that?
a post does not have to end in a question mark
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Samuel Tootwater - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 19:20:42 EST ID:mTus6Ib/ No.591127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591117
Do not deny me you had to reread several times cuz of the poor writing pressboy


aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa FUCK FUCK FUCK by Hannah Crabbleworth - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:55:30 EST ID:8pQ/CCu0 No.591118 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I FUCKING
GOD DAMN IT
I FUCKING ORDERED SESAME SEEDS BY ACCIDENT
NOT POPPY SEEDS
WHAT AM I GOING TO DO WITH THIS SHIT I WASTED LIKE $20 MY FUCKING LEG IS BROKEN AND HURTS SO MUCH FUCK FUCK FUCK
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Simon Smallbanks - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:39:47 EST ID:toa5v7pu No.591120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>591118

6 words: T A H I N I

'sall you neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed
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DrFeelsGoodMan !psUx8WBMWI - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:46:50 EST ID:1qQ4guRe No.591121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>591120
Letters?
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Hamilton Dazzleville - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 17:55:46 EST ID:mrZRpP+j No.591123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591118
Hahahaha sheeiiit


constant anxiety after OD/naxolone by Graham Wennerdock - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:17:01 EST ID:KfExfVv8 No.591091 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm hoping this is the right place to discuss it, I figured if anyone has any knowledge/experience about this it'd be you guys. I tried google but it was pretty dicks.

In August 2017 I accidentally OD'd on heroin (suspected to be fent), ambulance was called, received a dose of naxolone via the paramedics then two or three more doses later while in the ER over a period of 12 hours (I think 12? might be mistaken on the time frame; but the second two doses were administered near the end of my stay).

I have taken a break from all substances since this time.

But ever since this happened, I've had constant physical/generalized anxiety. It's ruining my life. I don't even want to go to my doctor about it, because she was very rude/judgemental/generally cunty last time I saw her, and I feel like she'll just think I'm drug seeking benzos or something stupid. The anxiety gets so bad when I think about talking to a medical professional that I start to cry/can't breathe/panic attack. I feel constantly anxious when I leave the house, even in my house, and I've been skipping work etc due to the anxiety. I have stomach upset, feeling like I'm choking, feel like I'm not breathing/can't breathe, panic attacks, my muscles are very tense/back/neck/shoulder pain, trouble sleeping, over sleeping, wake up from sleep sharply after 'not breathing' (according to s/o), trouble eating, etc.

But, I never had any of these problems before this. I wouldn't have ever considered myself an 'anxious' person before, even going so far as to say I never really experienced anxiety (at least none I noticed).

So, tl;dr - could the naxolone have caused this? Or the OD? (I did heroin/fent on/off extensively in the past and never had this issue). Anyone had similar issues? Experiences? Ways to deal with it? Does naxolone or heroin/fent OD deprave your body of certain minerals that might create this? (ie magnesium?)

Thanks in advance for your time/experiences/speculations. Pic not related, obviously
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bawlzdeepnoddin - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 18:59:28 EST ID:Bi/vcbDE No.591095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591094
EDIT: some doctors are just assholes, forgot to add this.
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Graham Gimmersitch - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 00:43:23 EST ID:d5e6qEUm No.591101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how many benzos did you used to take?
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Sophie Ballytork - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 01:54:22 EST ID:rrggyGXh No.591103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591094
There's a huge shortage of doctors where I live, so unfortunately, finding a new doctor whose taking patients for reasons other than say, 'pregnant women' 'elderly' 'immigrants' is quite hard. But yeah, that would be ideal

>>591101
I've only taken (small) amounts of benzos maybe three? times in my life, so not really much at all.
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Esther Davingkod - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 16:19:20 EST ID:ASRG7EQY No.591116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591103
how's your fake accent?

uh.. yeah, this is totally normal for getting off heroin though. i get humongo anxiety without opies.

try kratom (get it online). it's a godsend.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 09:24:23 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.591144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591116
>how's your fake accent?
Blimmin' good guv'nor, Oi'm roight noice feeling oi am


Tramadol without withdrawals by Reuben Fellerchitch - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:16:46 EST ID:T13pacPp No.590448 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much and how often can someone take Tramadol without worring about withdrawal symptoms? I got some for my back pain and about 100-150mg taken at evening is both pleasant and takes away my pain.
Can I continue with this dossage for a few days or will it give me withdrawalls at the end?
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Walter Forringfoot - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 22:36:17 EST ID:asO3vlVd No.590534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>590448
there is a high for 8 out of every 72 hours rule for iv heroin, doesnt last as long as tramadol, so maybe if you dose once every 72hrs you'll be ok. its not easy to take opiates for "a few days" and not get a habit soon enough
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Shitting Nanderman - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 00:04:28 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.590539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>590456
Disregard this, I didn't realise you meant habitually 4 on 4 off.
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Simon Senningforth - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 11:18:54 EST ID:FfZ8dyx1 No.590723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
4+ yr tramadol addict here.
Right now on 400mg daily, since I get it legally and fairly cheap never ran out in the last couple of years.
Last WD was while I was around 250mg per day, just remember shitting a lot, going through some manic episodes (nothing serious, my friends joked about it), and being extremely horny. But since they never lasted more than 3-4 days, didn't get to experience the full effects of WDing.
I know trams aren't popular here, but in some places (like South America) it's the only "opiate" available without paying a fortune for shady pills or fucking nurses to get fent/morph from hospitals.
Have 2 herniated discs and also diagnosed bipolar type 2. Trams are way better than doing Lyrica+SSRIs+Xanax+Corticoid pain medication (still do Valium thou)
Someday I'll have to quit, tapering is possible for me and have a shitton of other meds to deal with the side effects. When that day comes I'll be making threads here.
BTW: Never ever had a seizure, it's a side effect but not as common as everyone says it is
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Nell Dartwater - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 14:31:37 EST ID:71zrLyi1 No.591007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>590448
I've taken between 200-1000 per night for about a week as longest. That gives you mild wd for a few days. The rule is only one night in a row, but it's difficult
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Charlotte Biggleham - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 13:54:56 EST ID:T13pacPp No.591084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>590539
I did not.
Next day after stop I only felt kinda nice. Slight headache on the 3rd day off or something, it could have been something else.


feels by Edwin Woppershaw - Sat, 23 Dec 2017 21:47:51 EST ID:CjzB9DF9 No.590247 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I feel so much like shit before and after I dose opiates. It really depresses me, I feel guilty. Its such an obscene habit. I don't know what is it that opiates do to the soul, I feel like I don't even deserve being alive because of this. I dont trust my therapist enough to tell her about my experiences with opiates, has someone here done it? How did it go?

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Fuck Dunkinlock - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:13:44 EST ID:hz1Ic75u No.590952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>590372
holy shit dude way to project ur own delusion about ur habit onto other ppl
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:59:52 EST ID:jMNPao2a No.590961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
An obscene habit? Meh, there are far worse habits to engage in I think. Most of the percieved 'obscenity' of opioid use are the result of abritrary societal stigma which I pay no mind to. You should do the same. Human beings like to feel good - you are no different. There's nothing abnormal about using drugs like opioids recreationally. Don't fall into that super-dramatic trap about how much of a 'junkie' loser you are for using these drugs blah blah blah... it's a pointless endevaour and can also become a self-fulfilling orophecy - if you believe you're a worthless addict, then that's what you will live your life as.

However, I'm not suggesting that you delude yourself about opioid use - there's no doubt that they can become a harmful influence in your life. But keep a level-headed perspective as hard as that can be when you're examining your own life.

Anyway, yes, I talk to my psychologist about my drug use which naturally includes my heroin addiction etc. And it has only been helpful - therapy won't be very useful if you hold back key information, and it seems to me that your drug use weighs very heavily on your mind. If your therapist doesn't know about that, how can they properly give you the advice and tools you need to cope with it all? And look, they're a therapist for god's sake, they aren't going to judge you, they're going to help you.

Take it easy OP and don't be so hard on yourself. You are not a bad or lesser person for using opiates.
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Martha Honeybury - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:25:38 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.590986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>590951
>"sobriety" is nothing more than getting off on being morale

That's a pretty strange definition of sobriety. Being a judgemental fuckwit isn't a necessary part of sobriety it's just a side effect for some Also, that difference in intensity between a drug and food is a crucial difference. Oh and the fact that you need one of those two things to survive and not the other. Can you use your skill and judgement to tell me which is which?

I wasn't moralising, just stating facts, if you take opiates long term your body gets used to being on them - this isn't new information. There's no moral judgement, it's just a matter of practicality you need more drugs for the same effect and you will feel even worse when you don't have them. If you can make that work for you then more power to you.
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Jarvis Bummlefuck - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 01:23:52 EST ID:ASRG7EQY No.591078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>590961
Tell me at least 50% of the true addict population you know (and no, not the educated ones that like to hang out on this imageboard) aren't utter scum.


>>590940
This guy said it, OP. It's cliche and whatever but for the vast majority of people, using opies is going to end up badly. You're probably in that group.
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Thomas de Queasy - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 06:13:53 EST ID:8fTNJe2A No.591079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>591078
Tell me at least 50% of humanity isn't utter scum. To be honest I'd go up to 98%, but that would be scummy would it not, dear?


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