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PST/PPT General Thread 4.0 by Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 04:54:55 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571991 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow 1503+ posts of getting high af. Shout out to the anon who made version 1.0 of this thread.

You know what to do. This thread is ALL things poppy. PST, PPT, flake opium, mystery goo (what should I do?), memes nobody else understands, irrelevant political images, softcore fat black women nobody wants to see in private let alone be seen by others viewing said women at work/school (really man? really?), weeaboo shit (sigh...ohhhhhkay), topics related to the two or three posters actually qualified or smart enough to converse about flake opium production (but really please do it's so intriguing, and if you're not one of the two of three keep trying anyways and get back to us!), and of course legal/policy discussion. (Seriously, I'm ready to discuss poppy seed and pod regulation; I have my sources and constructive arguments mentally organized, finally, and would love to hear counterarguments from other academics/intelligent laymen).

If you post a pst question somewhere else about any of these things, chances are it's in the wrong place Unless you're a speedballing StimLion, then yeah your beautiful weeb contributions to this board (never stop doing you, live and let live, I guess) probably does belong in the BWN or elsewhere, not here (simply because you're not a PxT guy).

If it's ANYTHING poppy, ask it in here.

Enjoy your morphine with the tiniest dash of codeine and other goodies that makes every bag like smoking a new strain of mystery hybrid weed. It's been five and a half long ass grueling days [%]before this not-so-anon anon expected a last minute piss test related to getting scripted benzs and tl;dr my southern doc delayed the process by reccomending xanax or equivalent in writing to my new northern doctor(s) without actually scripting me anything, so I got nothing tangible in return for the horrible wait and I now feel like garbage and had no chance to dose up all day until after my flight landed,
so I surely will in just a bit.

If anyone is concerned, mildly interested, or has side bets as to whether I'll ever get clean/get better/get divorced/begin shooting smack/eventually die of an OD, I'm actually getting monitored medical help now (GP, MD Psychiatrist, possibly MD addiction/maintenance specialist) and my life has 180'd for the better even while being encouraged to stay on this stuff, for now. My wife's happy, I'm happy, so life is good. But I have to prove the changes I seek through future effort and action.

Anyways, less about me, MORE about you! Lurk forever but afraid to come out and get involved? Be a Trip in our own containment thread! We're one big happy pesticide pouring, goat-shit guzzling family ! We need more people to provide their life stories for entertainment, something the marginalized or isolated people can relate to or resonate with, and to get me the fuck out of the spotlighting in our corner of the universe. If you're committed to being an anon for life, please at least stop by and post hello when you read this thread! If you're high and usually post in the BWN, atleast post here first and then in the BWN so that the BWN remains on top while we accumulate post counts that reflect the level of seed/pod/puddy/straw consumption that's actually consumed by our micro community.

Got a bunk bag? Sipping on some fire brew? Let us know, in acronyms, where and when (expiration dates) your source is from! Please do it here and not on the great winding River market. That will be the death of us. If you must, rate 5 stars and don't use any words.

Please feel free to rate your seed strength and describe the cleanliness of the high in this thread (PLEASE do!), but

>PLEASE PLEASE succinctly premise it with a generalized explanation of your current and past tolerance to all opioids so we can take your review for what it's worth. Any review is worth reading, but we need to know if you're a newbie or a veteran mud water muncher/abuser of other opioids.

Let the good times roll!!

>8oz of SN 9/11, 3.6mg etizolam throughout the day (family goodbyes, fuck), earlier on two Corona Extra with key limes, one overpriced airport double well, a whole key lime pie to myself in the airport, and one very interesting blood test report that you guys will want to hear more about.

PST doesn't raise your iron or calcium levels significantly* if you only do two washed for 5mins each or less**.

Love you all. I will be on suboxone, kratom, or PST maintenance facilitated by a dual chamber timed/key safe by the time this thread dies. PST, you were the best of times. You were the worst of times. Variety is the spice of life.

P.S. ask your doctor for a OIC medication if you're already scripted opioids and also use PST that you can get by with without them noticing. You can thank me later.

Pic indirectly related: two drugs (heroin aka BTH and U-47700) whose "new" (tried/dependent for first time in last 30-60 days) user populations, when combined, would probably equal nearly half our poppy user population if it wasn't for PST/PPT products.

Stay safe out there and find yourself some free/cheap Narcan! PST is just as dangerous as oral morphine. Let us know if your area doesn't have it and we will give you resources to acquire some. It may just save your life.


Here's to hard fact indisputable evidence that 8oz of daily quality seed washed are objectively higher than even 6 beers a day, let alone hardcore alcoholism (way lower iron, HUGE drop in AST/ALT, on and on, just from not drinking booze instead). Tell the alcoholics in denial that numbers don't lie! I'm all for individual liberty to drink, but people need the facts
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:58:34 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571996 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Stupid broken spoilers. I wrote them right im 99% sure since I took so much time. I've requested Quet'z help and this should be in sexy shape soon enough sometime this week.

Sorry guys, was trying to be respectful and make the short and long versions for readers of all ages, interest levels, and attention spans.

My second post got deleted, but...

basically I'm a guy who was just labeled positive for genetic hemochromatosis (unclear if I'm heterogenous or homogenous, hetero roughly 1 in 10-20 for Northern European descent, 1 in 200-500 have both alleles and are basically screwed, and with my high ferritin I'more likely to have both alleles than I want to acknowledge) with significant former liver damage from international Hep A infection and 2-3 years of varying alcoholism years ago, and I got my blood tested in early Summer 2015.

The only substantial variable that changed since that 2015 test and the Jan 2017 test was cutting out daily booze, NO booze and kava together period (though this was rare after 2012-2013 anyways), 97%+ kava use reduction, no smoking weed (only vaping it, and I'd say 80-95% less weight than before, now like 1g of 25% per month lol max), and when I would drink booze on rare occasion (wedding, bachelor party, this recent vacation, maybe two days total at home where I downed 6oz of vodka to see if I'd get a rush, and I just felt sick after) I'd vape a little weed and pound waters with milk thistle before, during, and after the drinking, with weed with it almost always (supposedly helps protect brain from neurotoxicity),

and meanwhile I took on a heavy PST and moderate etizolam habit with a tiny dabble in cLam (10-15mg total), ethylphenidate (like half an 8 ball max, shit was cut or weak, with either 50mg plugged or 100mg oral feeling like 20-30mg oral ritalin max, with oral "ethylritalin" just plain sucking tbh.), 9x2.5mg snorted triazolam, and roughly 4-8 30-40mg Vyvanse every month for the past maybe 3 months max.

my iron levels went from super worried go-to-hospital-bleed-him-out-today-he-needs-a-new-liver by 30-50yo to NORMAL levels by Jan 2017, calcium is back down to normal, AST/ALT are NORMAL, and so many other tests are all great.

All I'm missing is a little low on calcium because i was avoiding it on purpose due to iron absorption fears, and low vitamin D because there's no sun up here, no drinking milk with extra vitamin D, no multi vitamin due to fear of issues on previous tests, and low calcium which of course helps cause low Vitamin D absorption.

>feel free to ask me anything about worries related to organ/liver damage from poppy products, especially if you can't afford to get blood tests of your own. I'm only one case but I want to help others best I can.

>Let me be the community guinea pig. If anyone is curious abut a specific enzyme or levels test in the blood, let me know and I'll look for it or request it with my next testing in a few months.

To be clear, my doctoral program is NOT in medicine, pharmacology, or the natural sciences, so IANA(M) and IANAD(O). I'm not formally educated in science, just political science and city management basically.

on side notes:
triglycerides, LDL, all of it dropped like a rock from eating healthy portions of SN's healthy non-poppy products...

specifically the cheap dried bananas I'm sure other companies have the same shit but I'd rather get 10lbs of poppy seeds, tons of banana chips thatnare healthy/God-tier prepper currency/bartering food. hear me out

(I can double check, I think it's like $24*2 for two 5lb bags of fire seeds so 48, bananas are all nearly same price 3lb and up so you get 2x3lb bananas @$2/lb so thats 47.98+$12= $59.98 just shy of $60, so you get their other cheapest 1lb item the sugared kiwis for $2.50)

(bananas are $2.50 for one pound but might as well get what i suggested as price drops to $2/lb or 1.99/lb when you get 3lback bags, and the tiny bag of sugared kiwi is something besides more bananas, makes you look less like a morphine junkie, more diversified diet, and can be a God post-PST snack as they're s sweet.

the $2 or $2.50 puts you over that ~$59.98 or whatever into ~$61.98 or ~$62.48, then apply RT10SC 10% off, and BAM your order is now $6.XXL cheaper.

>So instead of paying $60 for two bags from the river two day ship , you get the same two 5lb poppy bags, 6lbs of DANK high fiber high fattening low sugar dried bananas that helps loads with constipation if you chew them well, and 1lb of sweet sugared kiwis to suck on and eat after nasty PST mud water you're a bitch, all for just ~$54-56.50 WITH the discount, and it all arrives 4-5 days MAX from the day you order it versus 2 days with river boat speed pass.

>Similarly, you can do 3 poppy seed 5lbag bags (15lb) for ~$71.97-10% so basically $64.XX instead of paying NINETY FUCKING DOLLARS for the same exact shit off the river. tl;dr you can get crates too but the prices are so similar per pound that IMO getting 25lb over 15lb to save like straight up $3 isn't worth getting stuck with 25lb of mediocre instead of 15lbs of mediocre, as well as increased "why does he need that many? obviously a junkie." we want to stop that imagine as a community when we can you know?

They even offer 25lb for $114.99-10% so like ~$104.49 for 25lbs instead of $150 through the river. only downside is river is 2 days with speedboat pass while SN HQ is 4-5days as in place order on Sunday afternoon it arrived on Friday both times.

I ordered FTL E 4lbs to hold me over until the upcoming weekend SN order to come in. I will review and compare them to SN. sure it's $7/lb river prices instead of SN $6/lb prices (or they're $4.XXL prices-10% on their direct site), but the literal total was a few dollars below the $29.99 when I don't need a whole 5lbs for Wednesday to Friday anyways, and I get to try something new. did I mention the whole only having to stretch my 2-4oz left for just two days?

Don't forget to use RT10SC for 10% off (can total $60 for free shipping and then use code to drop down to $54 or whatever and still get free shipping; outside of NY only I believe there's no sales tax applied to sale itself just your annual taxes you "report"). sometimes they offer 20% off during certain times like thanksgiving, maybe mothers day.

Pt. 1/2
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:59:05 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.571997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pt. 2/2

>If you get a bunk peppery smell bunk bag from SN, there's a HUGE problem. I've never had peppery smell from them ever and I've never had any peppery seeds be above a 2.5/10 ever, ALWAYS bunk usually 0/10.

if peppeey smell/taste a few seeds, either send back immediately or ONLY use like 2-4oz MAX, DON'T drink right away, wash the fuck out of it, i mean three good washes atleast 5min on the first one 3-5min on the second and 90 secs to 5mins on the third, and with all three cups lined up, do whatever you gotta do to finish them all in 10 mins MAX from beginning to end, 15mins max max of you have a boi pussy. use a chaser if you must, but only tiny sips to clear palate so you don't get full of liquid. I suggest big 1/3-1/5 of entire glass entire mouthful gulps every 10-30 seconds, plug nose if necessary if you're a bitch.

if you feel absolutely nothing at all, seal it up and call them. MAKE SURE you are sober and coherent. Explain you're not satisfied after many months of good service and that the taste isn't there (you BETTER do some fucking RESEARCH into the cuisine so you can explain what they're used for, some ethnic festival or for your church's *insert nationality*-themed bake sale, memorize a few finished foods before you call that are made in that country and require ounces and ounces of the seeds. Also to reach the $60 on the dot you can just get 2x5lb poppy bags, 2x3lb bags of cheap banana chips, and 1lb of the cheapest kiwi slices sugared.

I'm not a shill nor am I paid by them. I tell I like it is. I have 4lbs of FTL (E) coming in Wed. off the riverboat and 15lbs of SN coming in by truck/plane from SN HQ (only paid ~$64 versus $30 from amazon, thinking about selling them on Craigslist etc for Amazon prime one day shipping price equivalent, so $30+4 (I'll make it $35, maybe two for $65 three for $100 idk, or $30 flat each if I know they're below 4.5/10), and $3-20 for delivery depending on distance or no fee for pick up just down my street (I'll use Uber pricing minus uber's cut as a good price gauge), maybe save the particularly fire batches (7/10+) and do 2-2.5lb rebaggings for $20, tell people they're from the turtle instead, and make a small business out of it.

I'll only say the following once:
I'm genuinely sorry if I come across as a pretentiousness fuck. I'm just trying to help. If things hadn't gone the way they did as certain point in my life I might have dropped out two degrees ago and used the refund checks to shoot up morphine IR on the reg, dillies for a treat, opana for the weekend deviation from the norm, swallowed coca cola budget oxy XRs and maybe even plugging garbage street #4 after afew crude methods of "washing it" when low on cash, and resort to ultimately growing/buying pods/seeds/straw. All this while consuming pressed cheap bars on the go and use homemade PG solutions of Etizolam/Alprazolam/maybe pyrazolam (if not powder then pellets), few strips of cLam to move it to next level occasionally, and probably Diclazepam for some false sense of security as a detox shield tool, all the while using US passport to travel the world and disappear with capital I amassed simply because machines calculate how much money is a safe bet for a young married white guy.

not trying to romanticize bottom barrel life destroying addiction, but I'm tired of the sense of "Mario has not idea what it's like, he's obviously a special snowflake clueless privileged fuck face." I know it's just me projecting my own fear of an inability to assimilate here, but man I had the single mom three jobs no dad empty fridge and an empty house (empty of adult supervision) most of my life.
Ernest Challymadge - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 11:40:59 EST ID:srdCL5Ij No.571998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well shit I finally lost my shit.

A year of pst on and off and I'm addicted. I dose every day now.
So how hard is it to get into bupre clinic?
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:29:06 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.571999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh. If it were me, I'd've made the kept OP really pertinent, then put personal stuff into an addendum post. Image boards srs business :)
Good info though.

Question. Can I make a semi-longterm sanitary solution by doing:
wash seeds -> filter seeds -> add some etoh (up to 5% idk) just enough to kill bacteria.
Does that sound like it could be sipped on for a few days without taking it all at once?
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:16:06 EST ID:daXiRiJr No.572002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Super easy as long as you have money
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:23:17 EST ID:HYaLpJTh No.572004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr.M I feel ya I have hep C .if I sip anyone alcohol its like my liver wont even process it and I dont get that little feel good from alcohol just liver pain and thoroughly sick throughout my body
Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 14:42:42 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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meant to do a report on here last week but totally forgot sorry guys. here goes.

>SN 3LB river 9/1 X000LFGXP
heard some people complaining about this batch but it was fire as fuck for me. I see a lot of people complain about the thebaine in SN but I've personally never had any nausea and have been able to get heavy nods I can't fight off. this batch was no different.
>FTL (E) 4LB river December 2018 X000RKPD64
SN was out of stock so I tried something else for the first time. bag smelled exactly the same as SN so I figured all was well. when it was ready I noticed a little bit of white shit like particles floating around in it. looks like how pst looks after it sits out and bacteria grows in it. said fuck it and drank it anyway. the taste was also slightly off like old pst. I felt good and could tell it was legit so decided to drink more and that's when it happened. full blown abdominal pain. no nausea at all just felt like I had a boulder in my guts. tried to eat a little snack which made it 100 times worse. felt like really bad indigestion. tried it again the next day being more careful to see if it was just a fluke and symptoms returned. can't even get a nod of this shit because of the pain in causes.

not sure if that is what thebaine feels like but from what I've heard here it's more nausea related. has anyone else experienced something like this? now I have about 3lbs of this shit that seems to be useless. Guess I should've just gone with SN but a size up.

pic related is the nasty white shit floating around in the FTL batch. I tried to fish some off the top with a spoon the next time I tried it and I didn't feel as bad as the first time but it was still extremly unpleasant.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:34:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hello, nice to meet you.

Yeah sorry the spoilers fucked up, but I almost like the wayit is now. All but the most pertinent shit is visually available.

I promise it has nothing to do with me anow everything to do with people pills (not to pick you out of the crowd buddy). He needs to know from somebody with similar problems to him that this shit won't kill his liver.

Even if I got ridiculed for the structure of my OP, just reaching him was worth it to me.

Sorry though, I'll hit the man up on IRC AND try to get it fixed. Obviously I wasn't sober but all the info is decent IMO.

>drinking 3rd wash I fell asleep holding in my hand lol!
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:40:41 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is visually *blocked

2017 resolution to not use a phone on this site.
Cornelius Wellyway - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 17:42:44 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah I had a 3lb 9/1 SN riv bag. I took less than my usual dose and at one point woke up passed out on the inside of a coffee table with glass everywhere and wounds all over.

I just ordered more today lol.
Dr. Crane - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:05:55 EST ID:iHTGbEoO No.572021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol. I took about half my usual dose to test the waters and was nodding way sooner than usual. couple of nights had me waking up gasping for air so if anyone has any 9/1 SN stay safe and take it slow.

really bummed out about my FTL batch. this was the first bunk batch I've ever received from anywhere. I mean it's not bunk but as I explained in my last post it just makes me very ill. I wonder if it has to do with everyone's bodies being different or if this is a thebaine thing.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:24:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
9/1 was stronger than average, stronger than most bags recently, however not exactly earth shattering.

I agree with another anon from before that the 9/1 bags seem to be inconsistent even within the same bag. Could be placebo, but I thought the same thing before he even posted it. One brew is solid 4-5/10 next time same weight hits like 6.5-7.5. 9/11 was not the same way.

9/1 was better than 9/11.

my first ever FTL E comes in Wednesday. Then all of the SN (15lbs) comes in this weekend.

Over half will be locked away not for me to use but for her/actual pain emergencies. As my tolerance is down quite a bit (8oz had me soaring and stopped the sobbing about leaving Florida), I'll be able to compare different lot numbers as I'll be taking the same exact dose at the same time interval between uses anyways.
Ernest Bupperworth - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:32:32 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 18:41:39 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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just be careful with your first FTL(E) batch. mine didn't smell peppery and had nothing to be alarmed about but it fucking made me feel like I had an ulcer. made a 100% recovery today just don't have anything to nod off and have this bag sitting here starring me down. contemplating getting another SN bag.

It could very well just be me but I'm just giving you a heads up may want to go slow with it at first, especially if its a DEC. 2018 exp w/ lot code X000RKPD64. It's not insanely strong or anything but then again I didn't really get to the point where I would drink as much as I do from other batches. Just really really bad pressure in the stomach. If anything try to take it on an empty stomach and if you do feel what I'm talking about for the love of god DONT eat anything at least until it calms down even if you get to that point where you get your fix and appetite comes back.

sorry think this post was me on accident. was trying to setup a trip cause I've been lurking here for years. not sure how to delete the post.
break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:04:26 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What is more, after the fraction including heroin was collected from the eluent of preparative HPLC, it was concentrated and dried by evaporator. Then a good deal of monoacetylmorphine was found because heroin was likely to hydrolyze when it was in water especially heated.
So if you prefer monoacetylmorphine, then all it takes is adding water and heating up apparantly?
break-a-bond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:06:23 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh this isn't the BWN. Disregard.
Nathaniel Puzzlestone - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:37:16 EST ID:neyiguwY No.572042 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Wash it with isopropyl then pour it onto a tray to dry. You get a nice little ball of potty putty that you can just eat orally and it supposedly lasts for months. Takes like 10-20 hours to dry 500ml of iso out.

Also, is the 9/1 SN really that good? I've got an unopened 2# bag I haven't gotten around to yet. Kind of disappointed with the WGN I got (seems to induce pretty heavy nausea even at lowish doses) so I'm excited to try out the SN in a few days.
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:42:38 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why would anyone buy WGN the best thing ive heard about it is that its ok at best
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:44:33 EST ID:WjaZSBeT No.572044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you just wash the seeds in the isopropyl and then strain and then pour that mixture out on a tray and let dry?
pills !zkraGArAss - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:57:41 EST ID:ul8wrln2 No.572048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If so how much iso and how much poppy seeds.
Sorry for the multiple posts.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 22:58:45 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That'll do it. You could do a quick second wash, idk if it helps. (requesting solubility info).
Or you could get fancy like pic related if you'd like.
what !!QJGTUbuf - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 23:00:40 EST ID:3qNK86pI No.572051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pills, you keep posting berserk stuff and i gotta say, i love it.

Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:19:28 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Awesome!! New PST thread for my big SN update.

So I got my 8 pounds of SN from head quarters today.

3 x 1lb. bag Identical expiration dates and lot #'s 10/3/2017 Lot:T4R2A437
5 pound bag 9/29/2017 Lot:T10R13656

I'm very satisfied. they aren't those 9/10 legendary batches from the past. but these are at least 7/10. maybe even better but my tolerance may be lying to me.

No red packaging or red seeds. no pepper smell. The normal nutty smell and bitterness is a little bit lesser than some batches I have gotten in the past, but like I said, this is what SN nuts are like, those crazy batches can't be the standard we use to compare. those are the exception.

I can't tell a hug difference between the seeds from the 1 pound bags and the 5 pounds bag. However I'm on my first glass of the smaller bag, cracked the 5 pounder first but opened a little bag to compare. If i notice any big difference from the bags as i go through them I will let yall know.

So SN from headquartes is a go right now /opi/! Unwashed and very active. I'm itching like a motherfucker. gonna have a cigarette under my awning in the backyard and enjoy this crazy storm.

Order while they're hot /opi/!! Literally!!!
Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 01:31:22 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh I forgot.

In comparison to the FTL(E) and WGN seeds I have received this past week, the SN i received today is a good order of magnitude stronger than the WGN. It is also a bit stronger than the FTL(E), not as vast as a difference between SN and WGN, but definitely stronger. Also SN seems like a faster onset than FTL(E), so you tell me what that means /opi/.

So ya, once again, SN from HQ is in the lead of the tea race right now.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:18:03 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Need to use enough to saturate and be able to agitate the seeds. So a similar amount as you would use water to make tea. High percentage drinking ethanol or high percentage isopropyl are the easiest/safest to use but methanol works a tiny bit better, however since methanol is pretty never required to be food grade because no one should ever be consuming it anyways it isnt required to meet the same purity or safety standards as drinking ethanol or isopropyl since its used as an antiseptic.

I also just found a new concept flipping through an old book on morphinan chemistry that im probably going to try soon. A few different experiments actually though i wont have the resources for any of them till next monthish. Im thinking next time i have some form of pst/ppt im going to try to make diazomorphine. One of the others is a little more complicated and requires morphine HCL so ill be skipping that. However im thinking the same reaction im looking at can be modified for buprenorphine hcl which i do have and might try once i acquire the reactants. I have no idea if it will end up producing something active using buprenorphine but im guessing it should as i dont see any reason it would behave differently than running it on morphine or codeine. I'll let you guys know if either experiment works out after i try them. Im aiming to end up with diazomorphine which i have no idea is active or not and a halogenated buprenorphine analog which i also dont know will be active, i was intrigued by the simplicity of both reactions and the availability and price of the reactants so itll probs happen next month. I may also try to form the 2-nitro analogs of the constituents of tea, 2-nitromorphine, 2-nitrocodeine and the like but we'll see as im unsure if i can find the reactant for cheap, though i suspect i can.
Caroline Mozzletitch - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 11:35:10 EST ID:rsGgQ1Xs No.572100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thank the /opi/ Gods everyday for /opi/'s in-house chemists.

God speed and good luck Q!!!
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:02:03 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

They have a new bag design w/ a red stripe at the top but the seeds taste/smell/look like always before.
Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:37:00 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get that the BTH means black tar, but what about the u44? What does that mean?
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 12:44:28 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cornelius Pobberbanks - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:10:04 EST ID:YCAG1Olj No.572108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lolwut u44 means u47??? wtf?
I've heard u-4, u47, u4-ee-uhh (like 'euphoria') but never u44
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:41:06 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572112 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i just got a 10/3 that isnt bitter at all and it smells like peanutbutter really

i hope this isnt inactive god damn that would suck
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 13:59:57 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well you are the same one to post on circlejerk.
Why dont you report back after you tried them.
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:03:05 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572114 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i didnt post that, i just happen to have the same batch that smells like peanuts and tastes about 1/10th as bitter as usual
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:22:33 EST ID:b18OmpPK No.572118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your post and that post are almost identical,regardless not doing them and just saying what you said helps nobody.

What size bag and what lot #?

I received a 5# bag lot #T7R557.. Date 10/3
And they were extremely bitter.

I will post my full review in a few hours.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:24:42 EST ID:6J7Q2rH9 No.572120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
has anyone had success with the new SN with the red line? I'm hesitant to order some but I also want to get some seeds for Friday so I'll have to order later tonight if I decide I'm going to do that.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The no aluminum is if you first based the alcohol with calcium hydroxide, calcium oxide, potassium hydroxide, or sodium hydroxide or pretty much anything else with K, Na, or Ca.
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:28:41 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572122 Ignore Report Quick Reply

actually both he and i did try them but it's only been about an hour and i'm just complaining in advance

i have that exactly batch and serial. how long do you shake for? these are the least bitter seeds i've ever had
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:36:56 EST ID:0lYYY5oM No.572123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have not personally though I have seen people say they were good.
They all freaked out because of the new bag but its the same product in a new bag. However even after those were released ive made purchases from HQ and the river and am still getting the old bag.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 14:55:32 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My tapering with #3 is only letting me sleep for about 3 hours before I wake up in pain.
Is it better to use pst in that case?
Caroline Gaffingdore - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 15:30:28 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572131 Ignore Report Quick Reply

it's been about 2 hrs, they're not inactive but they're definitely like half as weak or worse. i don't think the batch number or date matters much, mine has exactly what yours has on the back and it's definitely weak, not bitter, and you would notice the smell. idk what the concensus is on date and lot number actually meaning anything since i've never bothered checking until now, but given this i suspect they don't mean much
Nicholas Suttingbud - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:15:43 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.572133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Just got a 3lb 9/23 riv-SN bag and took ~2/3lb. I'll report back eventually, maybe even today.

Reporting back; 3 hours later. This shit is good. Definitely not the best I've had but 7/10. I'm getting those good classical waves of sedation. It's like 75°F here, I went outside for a while with a T-shirt on and the wind blowing against my skin felt cosmic af.

Shiiiit since starting this post these waves have gotten stronger; I'm going to take a bunch of ephedrine b/c I feel like I could pass out any sec.

Yes, pst is active for a long time and will help you sleep.
pills !zkraGArAss - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 16:50:41 EST ID:6vuBG+xO No.572138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yea dude im pissed. It took away my withdrawals but no discernable high ...

What was your dose btw?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 19:39:30 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Id say it is. It should enable you to take a smaller dose that still keeps w/ds at bay for a solid 8 hours or more with out really reaching for that euphoria.
Nell Cluffingshaw - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 10:33:39 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Daily user here, do 1kg washes daily for years of local decent seeds, just discovered SN and holy fuck was I missing out. Been in acute withdrawals for a few days cuz I can't bring myself to buy more local seeds when my SN order is out for delivery.

I gave up pst for 16 days last month, thats how long 150mg lasted me, and I gotta say fuck that stuff, made me feel braindead, no good feels and infinite nods. Kept waking up on the floor or in my chair covered with drool. Got some really bad dermatitis from drooling on my face so much lol. I was probably overdosing, as I was just eyeing out the powder and snorting it.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 11:46:25 EST ID:hbbaz23m No.572194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
150 mg of what? You didn't say what you were taking...
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:10:34 EST ID:7W+b41pu No.572213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
broke down and ordered another SN from the river. the 3lb wouldn't be in Stock for about a week so I upgraded to a 5lb. mind of nervous hearing things about the new bags but also anxious cause I heard 5lb bags are where it's at. should be here tomorrow. I will do a report if so and keep you guys posted. nb
David Worthingbanks - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 17:21:45 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.572215 Ignore Report Quick Reply

idk i dont measure, only eyeball. maybe like 150-200 grams but i was only dosing 50 before. i keep it low


you really shouldnt have, the 10/3 is so shitty. the last batch i had was not very good, and this is about 1/3rd the strength of that
Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:51:05 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sorry, meant to say fent.. Anyway, bag came in, I eyed out a half lb (SN 6/27) and nodded for like 8 hours, 19 hours later my pupils are still pinned and I'm hella itchy. Loving this, can't believe 5 lbs is gna last me 9+ days, I feel like I can even stop daily dosing... Emphasis on the can (is that how italics work? Don't make fun of me..)
Henry Blabberwater - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:53:06 EST ID:w9sTQZeg No.572265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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5lb bag to be pacific, forgot bag size might make a difference.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:47:09 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Posted in the BWN about 40 minutes ago after drinking 2.5 oz of 10/3 SN. Im feeling pretty fucking good. Drank a few gulps more after doing a second wash and adding it to the original half left. I would say these are pretty good, I drank it on a full stomach and I'm high as fuck yet again. Maybe not quite as good as the 9/1 bags but still good. I'd give em a solid 7 out of 10 on the potency scale.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:11 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really?? I think they are good lol. Guess that's the benefit of only using once a month.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 22:35:00 EST ID:+rJY0K/n No.572301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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did yours have a red seal? cause it seems some of the same dates have been getting different results for a while now. mine still didn't have this new red seal everyone is talking about and this shit is kicking my ass. I made only half of my regular dose and still have 2 more glasses to drink of this first wash. I will be nodding tonight no doubt.

Mine is 10/3 aswell with lot number X000LFLGXF. shipped from TN.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:07:21 EST ID:KYOPpK71 No.572312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Our bag did have a red seal, # T5R157

Upc thing on sticker- X000LFLGXP
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:43:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The way I take it is I take say 3 maybe 4 pounds mic a bottle or two of water in and strain it all then I put it in a fleet enema bottle and give myself an enema usually around 10OZ I believe they are. It's cheaper than dope and plugging is my usual ROA for dope and it gets me plenty high. Why do so many PST/PPT people insist in making small doses like with a 2 liter bottle?It's so much more efficient to use an alcohol or simple water based solution on a large amount of pods or seeds and try to get the largest concentration possible in one batch with the smallest amount of water.
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:48:27 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I find liquid also works nasal when I do the small water, large material and concentrated method really well to thepoint where I just inhale from a saline nasal spray bottle and stay high all day. For me it beats oral, it's on point with heroin for me I mean morphine always has been my DOC I used to buy the 60s on the black market but what's the point when seeds are cheaper? The only thing I like about heroin more is its all black tar where I am which means 6MAM or whatever MAM that has very trippy effects. But hey, I only get to use heroin sparingly because I am a poor man and I can't put heroin on my credit card (I guess I could bitcoin but I just don't trust heroin being delivered to my house so when I get heroin I'd rather just get it delivered by my dealer)
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:57:15 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And hey no rancid taste this way either. I don't even cramp too. It's a good way for me maybe someone else will try and like it like I do. You need to brew a batch of say 2 pounds though with very little water though for it to work comfortably and have a fleet enema bottle the extended ones not the smaller ones. If you do the nasal thing I mention dump some on a plate and with a syringe after letting the liquid sit for a long time you'll notice dark spots and milky looking spots try to get the milky spots they're more potent and put the liquid in a saline bottle. You will want a very concentrated batch though for this method to worknow. But hey it works for me and good! I can get high anywhere without anyone suspecting I'm inhaling anything other than saline up my nasal cavities
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 02:59:59 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To hold all the material I use a milk jug by the way. REYING To TYPE OUT BUT damn I'm getting too high to explain more. Either way keep enjoying that lovely crude opium we all enjoy brothers
Nathaniel Bodgewell - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 03:22:12 EST ID:I1bNAWLq No.572320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently just scraping flake opium up I'll post the results when I finish it
Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:53:14 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow dude, way to quadruple post.

Can I ask a general question? Are unwashed poppyseeds still a thing? Is SN still good?
Hamilton Mudgesare - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 05:54:54 EST ID:c9HlQxHx No.572327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is the latest SN batch?

Are people still willing to talk about it?
Just wondering if I should bother.

Last time I bought was like Oct. 2015.

Unsure if it's been regulated since then.
Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 08:51:09 EST ID:m2YooSD1 No.572336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SN's definitely still good. I just got 25lbs of 10/03/2017 a few days ago and all in all pretty good. Shaken some up right now, I'll tell you how this bag is even though the other wasn't as potent as it could be yet still quite good enough.

>Aciddrop, just cuz you get toasted on something doesn't mean it's highly potent.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 21:56:43 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
True but even since those first 9 grams, I took 2.5 oz and didn't feel as high and then a full cup and felt close to the first dose. I've had to increase my dose a lot every time. Yolande is built so fast it's crazy. After one dose your tolerence is already rising. It's crazy.

Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:08:18 EST ID:qvbrmZuD No.572409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll get back to you in a few hours ok. Is that cool?

I've been wondering what the BA differences are for theBaine etc.

>for anyone wondering whathe to do with batches that make you sick

Order another bag either same company or not doesn't matter, mix the bags 1:1 or measure your dose 1:1 split. This should help reduce the spike in too much of something bad.

Honestly FTL E and SN are such a good fucking mix. Personally I think I'll like 1.5 SN:FTL E but I need to look into bulk FTL E pricing.

FTL E is easier same strength or slightly less strong than SN by 10-20%, but it's such a unique experience. I'll talk about it later.

It's like trying different weed strains. So cool man.

Gtg ttyl yell
Simon Gabberwutch - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 20:43:49 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.572413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So why can i not smoke evaporated pst? what's wrong with taking pst, evaporating the water from it and freebasing the powder left over? why do i have to do that huge tech for opium puddy?
MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 21:55:16 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For you to consume morphine by "smoking" it you actually want to vaporise it.

When you make tea (seed/pod) you end up with lots of other inactives that are water soluble as well as plant matter small enough to get through your filter etc.
This is fone to consume orally or even plug but you need a far more pure product to effectively smoke it.

Using a lipid such as parafin or coconut oil first removes all of the fats and oils... extrapolate from there.
The different parts of the simple process to make smokable from tea is not really any more mentally straining than evaporating the liquid, it just involves more steps, each removing an unwanted portion and leaving you to enjoy the good stuff.

Matilda Blatherson - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 22:41:47 EST ID:s4dc5stR No.572421 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Please do, I'm curious about it too. If you find that the other alkaloids have less of an effect through plugging, let us know.

Not the guy you're replying to, but does this oil step have to be done before the evaporation is started? What if I already have the putty, is it too late to seperate out the fats/oils?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 23:35:24 EST ID:iQi541Jr No.572423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It might be because my tolerence is so low, but these 10/3 sn seeds are making me itchier than I've ever gotten from opiates. It driving me crazy. Time for another 50 mg dph. Still thinking about snorting some ambien lol
MDCB !Hs1AFHVTXw!!RpEUU2cz - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 00:21:40 EST ID:LzkgCTZX No.572426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I apologisw that I can't post the TEK for you, I'm sure someone with a computer could.
It may be a bit of a "long way round" but I reccomend you dissolve your putty in warm water and then add a fat that is solid at room temperature. IE; coconut oil. Don't allow it to get as hot as you maybe would have done when there was more liquid, allow to reduce a little, stick it in the freezer until it forms a cold but not frozen layer of water and a hard layer of solid coconut oil containing plant matter and fats and oils but none of the good stuff. Filter again just to remove any small chunks of oil etc.
Plug a small amount of the liquid while you wait for the rest to evaporate into a nice potent product, or follow the rest of the tek and continue toward flake opium or Morphine.
There may be a simpler way but remember the more concerntrated it is, the more mechanical loss you will have.

Enjoy man.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 13:19:47 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got the wretched red bags of death from SN.

To be fair they're super old like ordered 2 or 3 weeks ago. So far my 4oz tester seems to be okay. Bitter as always, maybe a bit more bitter than normal.

They're 10/6. My December 2018 bag of FTL was alright. Not quite as strong but definitely more smooth than SN, maybe theBaine idk. The FTL had a weird ass long come up and duration.

I'll get more reports on these 10/3. I've been doing 6-8oz FTL waiting for my huge as fuck SN,order to come in so I can mix them all together and get a consistent product to stabilize while I save the other parts of my life.

See u @ 8 Aciddrop on /b/tube. Anyone else is more than welcome.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 20:19:48 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
8 pm in what time zone? Ive got nothing going on tonight and it might be cool to hang out and chat with some cool people.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 22:52:49 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yo ima hop on right now.

I'll hop in IRC and /b/ tube now. I'll keep IRC logged in 24/7 from now on.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:11:59 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yup im in the tubes
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 23:12:44 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Such a series, much zeros

Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 02:23:52 EST ID:gTKeaRiV No.572517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry, I ended up snorting some ambien while already on seeds and k pins and fell asleep.LoL
I'll be on here tonight and tomorrow

Ur always welcome to chat q my boy.
LaDiDotty - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:11:45 EST ID:VMINuFQ5 No.572626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Haven't been able to visit, read, post in a bit. Been crazy here. I am glad to read you are doing a bit better. I enjoy your posts & appreciate all your knowledge.
My last seed order, which has been about a month ago, was from both SN & FTL because several orders prior from SN were not good. My 1st couple orders from FTL which I hadn't tried until then were good, better than my last SN orders. But since I keep hoping SN will get back on track I ordered from both places. My SN order had the same exp date as the 2 orders I got prior to this last 1, boo. So I've. Been mixing the 2 & it's OK, not terrible but not fantastic like SN had always been for me prior to this last spring. It's been a lil difficult for me to judge also because I've started ULDN which I've been most pleased with for the most part, still trying to figure out my perfect dose. It has allowed me to stretch things farther though!
I've not seen the red strip on bags from SN. Does it mean anything or is it just a new thing they're doing?
It's about time to order up again & I thought I'd see what the most recent feedback has been W/both places.
Anyhow any info would be most appreciated. I hope things continue to go well & I look forward to reading more about your posts on all things PST.

Take care & Happy New Year.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:47:03 EST ID:X2m3x4BI No.572655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is your name not dr. Mario on irc? Lol also there is too much trap shit on b tube. It's so annoying. Like I don't care if your a trap but you don't have to act all hyper sexual and throw it in our faces all the time. We get it, your a chick with a dick. Good fucking job. Your so anti- establishment, I wish I was you! Please...nb
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 20:52:52 EST ID:8hogtOaH No.572664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ye I get that sometimes. Probably has to do with the drugs in the PST.
Betsy Chiddleville - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 22:31:56 EST ID:KlMT5bFf No.572674 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck. Any way to deal with it besides drinking loads of coffee to keep yourself awake? Even if I dose PST as early as possible to give it time to wind down if I get decently high I'll end up staying up for a good part of the night waiting to get as sober as I can be so I'm not gasping in my sleep. Might also be due to the fact that I take tricyclic antidepressants daily (which increase sedation to some extent) but afaik there's no negative interactions with respiratory depression / TCAs because I used to nod on heroin / get blackout drunk on alcohol while on them so I don't think they're the reason. What do you do if you need to sleep and still feel short of breath?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 17:04:52 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dubs and i'll do PST
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 17:45:46 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.572813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's usually Dr_Mario but I forgot my password so sometimes I'll do Dr_Mari0

I try to keep it logged in but I get kicked occasionally. I'll hop on now, hope to hear from you

>sold my 10/3 bags for profit on Craigslist, got 3 10/9 red bags from SN HQ
>just about the same; looks like I was shipped super old stock for some reason
>fuck I'm out of my 6lbs of banana chips and am fiending for them why didn't I buy more from SN

During vacation/break I was drinking booze again and taking 0.5mg xanax + 2.4mg etizolam at night with a 2oz shot of ~60% ABV peach moonshine+ day drinking beers all day maybe 6-10 beers. This was for over 2 weeks constantly (xanax was freely given by parents), so I sort of got addicted again.

I've been on the daily PST use again as I dropped off the etizolam again, like max 1.2mg daily but for 5 days it was like 1.2mg 0mg 0mg 0.6mg 0mg and 0.9mg last night...so as is.

But the PST had been bad again lol. Never over 8oz but still bad. I mean my school work "begins" on Monday or Tuesday and that's when I get monitored again, and we both know 4oz is enough to keep daily users of 12oz or less pretty much out of WD.

My wife was pushing weed because she's biased and a dingy when it comes to drugs and was assuming weed would allow me to use less PST. While I know that works for you, for me it's a total trigger. It's the worst poly drug trigger for me. Nothing makes me crave benzos specifically, alcohol secondly, and a distant third opi. It's as if 7 years of getting baked before doing any other drug has conditioned my brain.

Maybe weed will help cope with the 4oz drop. Basically we agreed tapering for me is a joke unless I have actual wage paying work and piss tests to keep me honest. So we looked back on my handwritten logs to figure out what dosage range is the range where I fall off the wagon. It's around 2-3.5oz.

So we decided get enough seeds so that the mixture is consistent, once we're ready its all in 4oz daily and that's it, bags weighed daily for accountability, etizolam max 2.4mg a day as needed but weekly average of around 7mg or less. This is all while we are patiently waiting for me to get likely a benzo/z drug script and for counseling to somehow help.

Once I get a benzo script I either maintain on 4oz for as long as possible, perhaps even months, so that the transition to rapid PST taper or suboxone taper/maintenance isn't that bad.

Once I get a benzo script...

  1. I tell my psychologist I'm addicted to 100mg morphine XR pills "from india", that I usually eat 1 per day or half of one to stay well, 1.5 to get notably high and 2 to nod me off but haven't done that in ages, I'll beg her not to kick me out or to cut off my benzo script, I'll tell her I can get 1000 benzo pills shipped to my house tomorrow and that I can bring some in if she doesn't believe me. The point being I'm willing to stop them today and work with her every step of the way, but only if she won't axe my benzo prescription and will help me get a bupe script without telling the government I'm a quack or an addict and get my firearm rights taken away. If she refuses I'll just walk away even if the Psych stops scripting me; I'll have one full script which is enough to legalize pissing for benzos up to one year from the prescription.

2. I just keep the benzo script and act like life is a million times better, then when it's time for drug tests I just taper myself off with PST or DNM suboxones knowing I'll have to be entirely opi clean in less than 3 months or live life with a condom filled with piss strapped to a hand warmer and thermometee, compared to getting a sub script that's 5-8x too strong and me hoarding them under supervision of the wife since we both know from yall that basically 1-4mg of bupe is the only range where you actually enjoy it, and I'll never shoot them without microns and even then having a script turns me off from needles even more as they're then not special. That means something like 16mg per day = $20 wholesale $40 retail in my area, meaning $600-1200/month for possibly the rest of my life even if I'm only on 1mg or 2mg per day.

I haven't quite decided yet. The sub script would be more appealing if it covered other rec opi use on tests, but it doesnt. And getting a bupe script from a regular Psych is a pipe dream even if the shrink has 15 years of experience with substance abuse clients.

Maybe I'll just keep lying to get what i want. You start talking to someone and try to pretend they're your friend, but you have to remember they never will be. There's no reason to stretch GAD or so called moderate depression into scripting an opioid. Similarly they would never script my an OIC-curing medication because I would have to come out and say yeah I'm an addict.

>wtf is going on with Mario

Basically getting clean has taken a back seat to getting mental health fixed, finishing school with all As (never had that before), and reconciling issues in the marriage. Obviously substance abuse is related but they're a symptom to bigger problems. The bigger problems need to be addressed before substance abuse because I can quit easily but staying sober is so difficult. If I tell my shrink or whomever they'll decide the drugs are problem #1 and I'll stop seeing them or they won't help me with the other shit.
Shitting Pitthood - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:10:45 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.572823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm looking to reduce my tea down into a paste in a sauce pan. Is boiling okay or should I just let it sit at the steaming stage? I'm getting a lot of conflicting advice on at which temp. it will destroy the alkaloids.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:48:37 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got a bit of water & seed slush, been sitting for 2 hours.
Can I do a re-wash or is it past?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:00:31 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
light boil is fine. it will be hard to make putty in a pan though because scraping it out will be a pain in the ass. maybe once it starts getting thick pour it into pyrex.
Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:23:07 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd pass if I was you imo. At that point the seeds have either soaked up the fun alkaloids, leeched out their shitty ones, or both.
Martha Poddlebetch - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:26:02 EST ID:HcRCtA2u No.572827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>haven't used pst in a few weeks
>slept 3 hours day before yesterday, 3 hours yesterday, and drank a huge wash this morning

holy fuck it's early evening now and I'm doing everything I possibly can to not fall asleep standing up. I've spent all day pounding back redbulls and coffee and it's not having a single effect haha. morphine is fucking godly. nb
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:29:47 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive tried doing the same, but with caffeine powder, and it just doesn't touch the sedation at all!
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 21:40:04 EST ID:efRl7seM No.572830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's fine. If you're worried, bring it to a boil for 10 minutes and then drink it.

Remember that the colder your PST, the less shitty it tastes.
breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:30:30 EST ID:7Tz3mutN No.572833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Poured it all out into the toilet :( gg no re
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 23:44:15 EST ID:hKxher8H No.572835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When I was addicted to subs and switched to seeds, I never got any itching at all. Now that I'm non-dependant I get super bad itching whenever I chip with seeds.is there anyway to help it? Dph didn't seem to help much. It was hard to get to sleep I was so itchy. Never been that ichy before in my life.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:00:28 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i usually take dph before i dose and then after i come up i take loratadine. Loratadine has the advantage of potentiating due to competitive metabolism via cyp 3a4 and 2d6 as well as being extremely highly protein bound (about 97%) which means it will prevent the opis from becoming protein bound themselves which causes an increase in the amount of the opis that remain in circulation in your blood and able to reach a receptor. if you do a dose thats extra itchy it might be worthwhile to take a large amount of valerian root because valerian is a strong inducer of cyp 2d6 which is responsible for metabolizing codeine to morphine and ime batches of seeds that are high in codeine are the ones that make me the most itchy. I always take valerian with my tea though its a really good potentiator, one of my favorites for sure.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 00:08:00 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also meant to post this link to a study on common otc herbal supplements that induce or inhibit important metabolic pathways. I post it every now and then but its good info for people wanting to know what to take to potentiate.

Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:26:24 EST ID:KNSBgxcV No.572839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you can normally let those kinds of things sit for like 5 hours. past 1 hour, id boil i after extracting. i also have like 3 bottles of PST first washed in my freezer that i'll do second washes when i have the time.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 03:26:36 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.572841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh man. i personally would noooot rewash after an hour i have a couple times in the past when i was desperate but its bad. They probably havent actually gone bad after just an hour or two but they smell and taste soo bad after sitting for even a short time. I just cant handle the smell and taste after theyve been washed and let sit for awhile, they get so rancid its gnarly and i cant deal with it. you might be onto something with freezing them though. Freezing them after the first or second wash and then rewashing with warm soda or whatever you like to use might make it easier to get the last bits of opis without also getting so much of the fats and oils. I may try freezing some seeds before i wash them at all and then freezing a different batch after the first wash to see if it makes any difference in flavor next time i get some.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 22:52:42 EST ID:RNsyV50Z No.572895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rewashes after an hour then rigorouss boil for like 10-15 minutes to kill off all those microgarasms. This works ssewell because they don't have the pbiological mass to cause issue and it kills everything. like i said, you can do a rewash afterl ike 5hours as long as you boil it for 10 straight minutes before drinking.

protip;: pasteuraize then refidgetate your PST for long term storage
Shit Wivingdock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 06:38:56 EST ID:Z/zcrnFU No.572912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've left all of my seeds in the bag they come in directly on top of a very hot radiator for close to 24 hours, have I fucked them? )':
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 10:36:18 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As long as it didn't melt you should be good. Morphine is pretty stable and doesn't degrade from heat much really.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 13:47:13 EST ID:+RdbqMaj No.572924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My seeds have been out for delivery since fucking 8 am. It is now 1:45 pm and I'm starting to get pissed they aren't here yet...like wtf USPS??
Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:35:04 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So i left out a sealed bottle of poppy seeds and water for 18 hours in a dark room. Is it still okay to drink?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:46:17 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Boil it on full boil for at least 15 minutes, cool it, and you'll be fine.

Remember: you taste less PST if it's cold.
Martin Blythecocke - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 21:53:22 EST ID:jI6uJ6Dv No.572947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thanks man
What exactly makes it bad to drink? Doesn't it like ferment or some shit? It smells different but not bad.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:01:16 EST ID:eprvQ+t/ No.572948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bacteria multiple in the water and some stuff like protists and yeast does some anaerobic fermentation to make methane and carbon dioxide from the dead plant matter. It's like if you filled a water bottle and tossed two tablespoons of dirt in the bottle and walked away. Same shit.

The morphine is still there though.
Polly Wedgemadging - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:20:43 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.572959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I feel like no matter how old it gets then, you could just basify then extract and viola
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:29:21 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.572961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes. Yes you can. I've done this with a bottle I forgot from last February. Just boil it down and you have some powdered morphine if you do it right.

Don't drink it past 30 hours though. The bacteria and fermentation's literal shit will cause poisoning.
LaDiDotty - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:24:31 EST ID:VMINuFQ5 No.573000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hi all,

So I have a couple questions I'm hoping you can help me with. I've been using PST for a while now but have stayed at the same dose the entire time which is approx 2-21/2 cups seed to liquid. I use prob more liquid than most cuz I can drink it easier w/o any nausea.
I've mostly been using SN but because I felt like their quality or strength took a serious dive this last spring & has only improved a small amount, I have also ordered from FTL a few times. The last couple orders I've mixed SN & FTL seeds.
So I know you say to shake for 5-10 mins & that is enough but by accident months back I found that leaving it to soak longer & using certain liquids or a mix of liquids made a big difference in potency. Not just a little but a big difference. At least it has for me anyways.
My questions are this. I've drank PST that has soaked a while & just barely started to ferment. It didn't taste really any different than normal but there was air pressure released in the bottle used for mixing It's nit something that happens regularly but I guess I feel like I'm wasting it if I don't drink it. I've started noticing that I've been having a bodywide pain. I already have several pain issues which is why I started using PST. I'm trying to figure out if what I'm feeling is due to tolerance, my body just developing more issues or if I'm possibly having some type of reaction to a build up of whatever from the PST.
The WD's from this do suck & ive def noticed I start to feel them quite quickly now but what I can't tell is if it's from more from the decrease in strength/quality of the seeds or my tolly. I do take breaks from PST but not as much as I used to. I've been afraid to use more than what I've been using.
I know you guys have talked about the different toxins or possible things that can build up. What do you think are the most common toxins are that could build up? Is there a difference between brands since they're grown in different areas & soil?

Last, on a diff note, what are your opinions of quality w/SN as of late? What is the deal w/the red strip I read about?

I appreciate your input as always. Thanks.
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:30:09 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got some naltrexone to help me get off this stuff. Can I just use low dose naltrexone while slowly taking less PST over a few months to reduce usage? Or does it not work like that? I read the naltrexone prevents tolerance so maybe it could be used to reduce usage
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:36:21 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
throw it in the microwave for 30 seconds to kill bacteria
Walter Duckcocke - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 20:41:15 EST ID:Af7b7NA1 No.573126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
after some research it seems microwaving doesn't actually kill bacteria, apparently it's the heat.

I was always told to microwave sponges to kill bacteria.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:16:24 EST ID:Y+xKONG7 No.573132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can nigga but the sponges need to be wet. Essentially it pasteurizes itself in steam
StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 22:34:25 EST ID:Xx8M2J0a No.573134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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500g of Bob's raw, whole seeds

Cold water, two runs

Sippin up, got some booze and grass, hoping to relax tonight
LaDiDotty - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 15:17:16 EST ID:tCTxneYl No.573156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey all,

So I just got my order from SN. They shipped from the Riv location & the bags have a red top w/an exp date of 10-2017. Can anyone please tell me what the story is w/these red bags &/or the exp date? I would really appreciate your input.

Fucking Fushlock - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 17:59:41 EST ID:5XTppoad No.573172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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last thread i had some questions about poppy pod tea. well, just the other week i ended up trying it, so i'm sharing my experience.

i ground up about 10 pods in total and measured out ~5.5g of pod material. I added this to ~150mL water with about 1/4 the juice of a lemon. i heated the water to ~80 C and let it steep for 45 minutes, stirring occasionally. I then poured the liquid through a coffee filter. I consumed the tea over a period of about 20 minutes.

the flavor was gross but subtle. it felt like i could easily vomit if i tried to. the effects started around an hour later but i didn't really notice them until two hours after consumption.

the effects were warm and comfortable. it reminded me of the feeling when you wake up before your alarm goes off and you've still got like 10 minutes until you have to get up so you just wrap yourself in your blankets and curl up.

6 hours after initially consuming the tea, i decided to drink 4 more grams.

one hour later, i felt the familiar itchiness on my face. also i felt nausea. if i had taken a few grams more i would have likely thrown up. i figure my ideal dose is around 8g. maybe if i took that much i could actually nod. otherwise the experience was like a very long hydrocodone.

i went to bed 10 hours after intially consuming the pod tea. i felt the effects the next morning. perhaps i metabolize poppy pod tea very slowly.

all in all the experience was enjoyable, albeit very long acting. i probably wouldn't do it again unless i had no other painkillers, or if i was doing it with somebody who wanted to try tea with me. the flavor was gross and the effects were subtle. i'd much rather rail dillies or pop oxys than have to cook up tea for an hour and choke down the vile liquid. that being said, i'm going to prepare tea a few more times to see what my maximum is. i have very strict rules regarding my consumption of opioids, so i won't be taking it again for at least another month.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:06:29 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just curious, but has anyone managed a good poppy pod (or poppy seed) extraction to either putty, or more importantly; papaveretum (full spectrum opium alkaloid salts) and if their tek was in any better or easier than the ones you can pull up using google; could you share the knowledge? I really want to make myself some morphine/papaveretum or poppy pod putty that can be plugged or, even better; smoked. Poppies are still cheap here and I want to do an extraction before they aren't readily available, though they seem to have weathered Theresa May's thick as pig shit drugs laws.
I've managed to make poppy pod putty before using water with cold distillation then evaporation though it wasn't particularly potent by weight, now that I can get chemical supplies easier and have done some more complex teks I'd like to have another shot at it.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 18:18:28 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't need to use anywhere near that amount of water with pods, 1ml per gram is more than enough, simply filter through a cheesecloth and wring it to dry, you can then either freeze the pods or wash them again to get all of the alkaloids You also used a very low dose of pod tea, poppy pods are about 1% morphine by weight, so you had ~55mg of morphine, possibly less; though the bioavailability is higher for tea. If the pods come cheap, dose high; if they're expensive then they aren't really worth it. You could have managed easily with about 50ml of water; the tea doesn't have anywhere near as strong a taste when it's cold either, so sticking it in the fridge or straining it over ice will help with the taste.
nb, double post.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:29:40 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.573183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
refer to the picture in this post. follow that but save all the alkaloids and combine them all.
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:30:33 EST ID:5GrnBQBp No.573184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
uh oops sorry in this post
Solidikans - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 06:44:34 EST ID:d5zvmmHD No.573196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So is Mario dead?

Or did he get clean?
Molly Nandlepeg - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:25:52 EST ID:71ZJZbqG No.573197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been stuck huffing chemicals since my dealer is MIA and I'm a year away from being able to buy a drink in the US, so unless I can find a better way to get fucked up, I guess I'm just gonna have to huff shitty chemicals until I become retarded. I'd rather die early than be sober. I've had enough of that bullshit.functional.
Molly Nandlepeg - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 07:38:41 EST ID:71ZJZbqG No.573198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah. I was gonna add something about how opiates are more functional functional than benzos for me but didn't deem it necessary and I didn't highlight the last word when deleting the text. It's fucking with my OCD.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 11:04:55 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure, haven't seen him post In awhile. I think he's probably ok, hopefully he's ok and just been busy. Im a lil worried though. He's my broski.
Sidney Blackson - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 12:45:04 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just got 3 lb river SN - lot T9R1137 exp 10/6 new packaging.

Smells like SN always has, the water is dark and light doesn't shine all the way through it, plus mildly bitter taste with sediment at the botton. Good sign, I just drank half of my 1-lb wash, hopefully I'll remember to clue y'all in about how it goes.
Hannah Fundlemed - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:41:19 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please do
I should have an order of SN in by Monday, but I've been hearing rumors that the quality is pretty subpar.

I'm not particularly worried as I have 0 opi tolerance at the moment, so unless they were completely washed I should feel something,
but still let a bropi know!!
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:22:00 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh yes - this is definitely the SN we've all known to love.

Such a great feeling. <3
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:30:06 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I ordered these on thursday - got them today. I have heard that the batches have been inconsistent recently but this is my third bag since the bag redesign and they've all been great. I also have a tolerance over 200 mg oxycodone so for it to get me not just feeling good but actually high is a good sign. I used just under a pound and washed only once so if you really have minimal tolerance then tread lightly.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:54:23 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just "enjoying" life one day at a time before I have to do mad dash academics again...which starts monday. I hate it so much but it's ALMOST over. 7 years of work, approximately 50 college courses, and I'm burned out and mentally hung over essentially 2/3 of one class' workload. I don't even have to go to any more scheduled classes at this point.

Basically I have two projects that I have to create "schedules" outlining the timeliness for completion, and tl;dr project #1 will take one week on Vyvanse

(Peach had to pay over $200 for 30x40mg vyvanse pills aka $7 each for what amounts to ~15mg adderall XR because it's a new year and insurance drug deductible doesn't cover crap. Even if we do hit our deductible amount Peach is forced off her parents insurance plan in less than 6-9 months, meaning Vyvanse will always be too expensive. Even for the perks of being legal, no levoamphetamine etc, $7ea for ~15.694mg of adderall is ludicrouse.

Now we have to convince doc to script her generic adderall XR or dexedrine for off label binge eating disorder. No idea what she will say we're just worried she'll switch her to something that's not even a stim and try to fool us, and if this happens, do we interject with adderall XR pamphlets or just try to stay on Vyvanse while we doc shop to find someone who will switch her over?)

or two weeks without it. Project #2 will take ages at least a month of 50hrs/wk and therefore might run all the way into late March. They want me to construct the work timeline in like 5 days but I'll just do it Monday.

I'm eagerly waiting to see a Psychiatrist that's a 6-9 week wait to see when my chart says urgent 2-5 days. For etizolam vs alrazolam, Xanax is better for sleep and muscle relaxation, but I find their anxiolytic properties equal and etizolam is more hypnotic.

I would love to give hydroxyzine a real try, maybe triazolam or ambien/lunesta/sonata as in an entire month not just a few rec days

Something like 25-50mg hydroxyzine with a raw valerian root/kava kava Waka Lateral root/chamomile tea stack with 7.5mg ambien (or Whichever z-drug is best consumed orally so less abuse potential), with say 0.5mg xanax 15mins after the ambien so I fall asleep and stay asleep.

Maybe eventually switch to Ambien CR and cut the xanax in half or out all together for sleep. Then low dose lorazepam/diazepam/Clonazepam like 0.5-1mg kpin equivalent for 3-5 days out of the week and hope the two nights of sleep benzos will hold me over on the weekends.

I really want to only use as needed; I ruined opioids as a useful tool and I still have a chance with benzos. My doses were almlost always therapeutic range, like 2mg real xanax max at once and maybe 6-8mg etizolam in a day maximum ever, usually 0.6/0.9/1
2mg etiz and the occasional ~1.5/1.8/2.1/2.4mg

I'm just fearful they'll piss test and kick me out for weed, likely opi at 3-9 days dirty window, benzo via etizolam for that mystery 2-7 day window, and possibly amphetamine from occasional vyvanse.... at least opi and weed for sure . I've smoked maybe 2.5-3.5g of 25% herb in the last month or so, aka I'm fucked for a month even if I quit seeds and etizolam. I'll need to source clean piss so this could get complicated.

>BWMaintenance 6oz of PST mix three bags of 10/6 red bag SN one bag of FTL-E

>might order more SN BANANA CHIPS (get 10lbs seeds for $48 and 2x3lbs of Banana chips for $12 total, puts you at $59.XX, get one more lb of bananas for overpriced $2.50 OR spixe it up by getting 1lb of sweet dank dried sugared kiwis for $2.50 to raise your total to ~$61.XX. BOOM free shipping and using the 10% off coupon RT10SC or similar Google it, it drops from $62.XX*0.9= $56.25

>So 2x5lb bags from the river that normally cost $60 total, with 2 day shipping that's become less and less just 2 days and more like 4

>or use above method to get the 2x5lbs seeds (normally $60) PLUS 6lbs of healthy banana chips great for fiber and and high calorie PLUS a pound of sweet sugared kiwis to chew on between PST guzzling, ALL FOR ~$56.25 aka cheaper than the river alone, at the expense of having to wait 4-6 days from order to arrival.

Kind of want new seeds to confirm where SN is headed, or if bulkier FTL E is available at realistic prices.

I've started my Craigslist listing for poppy seed sales. Super discrete listing and just say "I'm a local supplier of poppy seeds and sometimes other seeds and nuts" "these are top quality organic unprocessed seeds, perfect for all your family cooking and bake sale needs".

Just been doing 10lb for $60, 5lb for $35 (may drop 5lb to $30 for repeats or people who mention it's cheaper on amazon but they like my day of convenience) 2.5lbs for $20, and a "fat pound" (1.1-1.15lb, aka $9/lb) for $10. I don't put them in the SN bags of course, but I've been telling them in person to "weigh them out carefully" and to "start with no more than 4oz". Talk about easy money lol.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:58:25 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573227 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>cutting down from some nutso doses that I seriously don't feel anymore...8oz and don't feel anything....10oz and not much...tried 12oz and got so pissed I didn't dose for 3 days

Now it's just accepting that I won't even get a 45min buzz. Ah well what can I do apart from taper and quit.

Our doctor friend thinks I use morphine to self medicate for depression. Lol really you don't say?

>part of why I'm off and on with IRC is because it doesn't like AFKers very much. Sorry about skipping that other time...third times the charm? Set it up my friend. We just gotta connect once or twice to make it happen.

I'm busy today unfortunately maybe tonight though.

I'll be back in a but, just have to pick up my most recent gun purchase.

I've been selling off a few and buying a a couple, mostly downsizing my stash of cheapo, garbage brand, used guns that I bought for largely ripoff prices because I was 18-20 and could only buy handguns from private sales back in the day. We would just meet at a gun range to test a products functionality, haggle on price in the parking lot, pay him and off I went.

This makes many of them legal yet "unregistered" aka legal yet "untraceable" in that the guy who sold them to me no paperwork no ID...meaning if I cleaned them up diligently and wear gloves, my prints are off and deplorables would rather pay $500 for 10 years used no government records over $500 new. So there's some decent trades to be made to build my collection without breaking any laws.

Well that's it; 18 months of reckless use is all it takes to ramrod tolerance forever. I'm kind of glad my addiction isn't rule #1 right now as that just makes me more anxious...

>what's the rough equivalent of 5.33-6oz of ~6\10 SN seeds converted into non-IV doses of bupe? I was thinking more 6oz than

Assuming 6/10 seeds are 150ug/g of morphine (we will never know, but I swear my numbers seem too low.), 6oz of PST is only 25.5mg oral morphine apparently.
Caroline Chubberforth - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:30:40 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.573244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know this is a really late reply but you say that a light boil is acceptable? Do you know around what temp I should avoid getting to? Because as it reduces more and more the temp is sure to rise. I have a candy thermometer that will beep if it gets too high of a temp, depending on what I set it to.

Also, what are some good potentiates for PST? I know that some of the traditional ones should be avoided due to codeine needing to be metabolised into morphine.
Solidikans - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 19:00:54 EST ID:d5zvmmHD No.573253 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well glad to hear your not doing to bad.
And 6oz of decent PST at your tolerance would probably be fine starting at 8mg bupe and then working down to 4-6mg to maintain. The only problem I had was the insanely long half life of PST so I had to wait like 3 days to induct on subs, and I still pot percipitated withdrawal but it only lasted like 6 hours.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:00:23 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5.33 oz is what my tolerence was for a long time. I would say it's equal to about 4 mg sublingual , 3 mg snorted/ plugged and 2 mg I.v. ur lucky I got to try some of that batch. Pretty good quality seeds if you ask me but my tolerence is way down since I actually got myself unhooked. Since mid October I've only used 3 times. Thanks giving, christmas and then a week ago I used for 3 days, skipped a week and then used 3 more days...so out of 3 months I've used about 8 days total, not too bad.
I quit from that dose man. when I got down to 5 oz I just cut my dose in half every day down to about a teaspoon and the stopped. I suggest you try this. It worked pretty well actually
These are my familiar dosing ranges too lol
Yeah I figured out how to get the irc to work anyways on my tablet, as long as I use the link at the top of the page it works but if I type it in it doesn't lol go figure..
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 22:04:49 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
5.33 oz is what my tolerence was for a long time. I would say it's equal to about 4 mg sublingual , 3 mg snorted/ plugged and 2 mg I.v. ur lucky I got to try some of that batch. Pretty good quality seeds if you ask me but my tolerence is way down since I actually got myself unhooked. Since mid October I've only used 3 times. Thanks giving, christmas and then a week ago I used for 3 days, skipped a week and then used 3 more days...so out of 3 months I've used about 8 days total, not too bad.
I quit from that dose man. when I got down to 5 oz I just cut my dose in half every day down to about a teaspoon and the stopped. I suggest you try this. It worked pretty well actually
These are my familiar dosing ranges too lol
Yeah I figured out how to get the irc to work anyways on my tablet, as long as I use the link at the top of the page it works but if I type it in it doesn't lol go figure..
Angus Dovinggold - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 23:11:31 EST ID:5XTppoad No.573266 Ignore Report Quick Reply

while the dose may be low, i felt nausea creeping up when my overall dose reached ~9.5g.

i'd rather have a shallow experience than spend an afternoon wrapped around a toilet.

i've had too many experiences railing just a little too much dilaudid and then puking until i'm empty, then dry heaving some more.

i'll try less water though, the next time i try. i figured with 150 mL i could take a mouthful and it wouldn't be too bad, versus a tiny shot of some really wretched fluid.

i'm exaggerating though, it wasn't actually that bad. i'm sure as you do it more the taste is less bothersome.
Cyril Clottingkare - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:02:26 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So yeah, after the initial comeup where I posted "it works!" it's been pretty lackluster. I thought that I was still coming up but apparently that was as high as I was going to get today. It did take me a long time to finish drinking it (like 3 hours, but I think this particular batch is just weaker than usual (not bunk though). I'll try slamming my whole dose within 5 or 10 minutes tomorrow and see if it ends up like it really should.
Nell Fodgelock - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:09:49 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that shit is so fucking lanky, it's starving for more light you stupid fuck.
post that on /grow/ please.
Ernest Blythespear - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:09:00 EST ID:DnRcrbWW No.573271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone ever order SN through amazon?
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 01:26:00 EST ID:9j22uaA0 No.573272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only just half the people on here, that's all.
Cyril Clottingkare - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 04:20:13 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know it's stretched as fuck. I grew it in my dorm in college in 2012 with just 2 CFL bulbs (which were normally above the plant - I moved them for better photo lighting).

All things considered (including me being gone for 4-6 days at a time often) I think it went well for a fun experiment to see if I could grow them indoors w/ CFLs.
Cornelius Drenningstone - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 16:29:36 EST ID:KkJQtM10 No.573284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did you get high off that thing
Martin Clockledork - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:00:03 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can anyone clue me in as to how long one can store pst?

Like if I were to brew a batch tonight and refrigerate it for tomorrow morning (probably a little over 12 hours) will it still be good?

I feel like this is a dumb question, but I haven't made pst in a while so I've sort of forgotten the tricks of the trade so to speak
Thomas Goodfuck - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 13:48:15 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
search the thread.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:50:32 EST ID:aYmDNTuB No.573322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've answered this like 3 times now.

>Open thread
>Ctrl+f: "boil it"
Baron Von Feelsgood - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 15:07:12 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573323 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Iodine or chlorine pills should help it keep as well; as would pasteurising it. Both pasteruisation and water sterilisation chemicals will help it keep without you having to boil it, boiling may destroy some of the morphine and liquids have to be boiled for a while before they're sterile.
Cyril Grandway - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 19:16:06 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay thank you

I saw the other posts about boiling it, but I was under the impression it destroys the morphine, so I wanted to try to steer clear from it if I could
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 22:26:56 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I forget at what exact temperature morphine degrades (I think it's at least over 200°C), but regardless, considering that I frequently do morphine -> diamorphine (heroin) cooks with the oven set to 150°C (which obviously is significantly above the boiling point of water), then I can conclude that there's no issue of morphine being 'destroyed' by boiling.
Eugene Drullyfield - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:37:31 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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whered you get the AA?
Basil Saffinglitch - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 00:38:36 EST ID:uY4TmNyV No.573391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ya boiling would always work. However I've kept pst in a cold room (55-60F) for 48-60 hours and drank it and nothing heinous happened to me. Unless that's how I got this horrid tonsilitis....? Is that possible?
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:47:55 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My dealer. It's diverted en-masse in NZ as homebake is our only real source of heroin here.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 02:23:50 EST ID:N9JtNdDc No.573394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>nothing heinous happened to me
>i got this horrid tonsilitis

"nothing heinous happened to me except this horrid thing"

Yes anon. It is for sure possible...
overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 05:29:47 EST ID:6kKkBQVB No.573400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh but if you were personally interested in some basic oven chemistry and have some morphine tabs lying around... well, the internet can perhaps help you there with an order of a strictly educational aspirin synthesis kit. My situation is an exception in that I have local access to AA, in fact up until recently we were getting it for free with the 100mg morphine tabs we buy. Now it's a couple of dollars for a single mL but meh, you barely need even .1mL to turn 100mg so the shit lasts for a long time.
Eugene Drullyfield - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 16:46:46 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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2x 25mL of Acetic anhydride
2x 25mL of Sulfuric acid
2x 25mL of Toluene
15g of Salicylic acid
Cyril Gillywick - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:46:47 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So Ive drank PST a couple times this past week. The first few doses were pretty good, but I'm starting to notice some undesirable effects.
Namely that Ive been vomiting late at night and early in the morning. Ive been having stomach cramps and diarrhea, when Im not constipated that is. Also my vision has been pretty blurry and I've had to read with one eye open at times.

Now these all sound like typical high dose opiate effects, but the thing is, I haven't been feeling that high.

Perhaps there is a high thebaine content in this batch? Perhaps Ive been dosing too much and too often. Probably a combination of both
Charles Fuggledale - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:03:25 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry if this question's been asked a dozen times already, I just don't have time to read through the whole thread right now.

TL;DR - I can't drink PST anymore, I need the best way to turn it into putty. I'm going to grab some IPA while I'm out today and try just making it with that and letting it evaporate, but if there's a better way that doesn't require a ton of extra supplies, I figure someone here will know. Thanks in advance, guys, I'll be back later to read through the thread.
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 14:26:03 EST ID:vsZKL94+ No.573512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have fun with your 3 - 10 day evaporation process.
Charles Fuggledale - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:08:07 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Doesn't isopropyl alcohol evaporate in a matter of hours?
I honestly didn't even realize that my post could've been interpreted as me trying to use beer to make PST when I typed it out lol
Anyway, it's as simple as washing the seeds with iso and pouring it into a dish with a good surface area to evaporate, right?
Baron Von Feelsgood - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:29:10 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Iso evaporates fast. If you can't get iso alcohol get methylated spirit (make sure it doesn't have denatonium in it), the methanol in it won't be an issue as you'll be evaporating it off. Gentle heating in a water bath will help speed both iso and methylated spirit evaporation up. Avoid any naked flames or spark sources.
Jenny Fallernedging - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:02:19 EST ID:1jKBWc6i No.573517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Am I an ass hole?
Anybody else gotten their fix from Whole Foods before?
Barnaby Blinningnot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:12:41 EST ID:uY4TmNyV No.573518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The old tea didn't smell or taste any different than the fresh stuff, so I assumed it'd be fine. I also figured if anything bad happened to me it would come in the form of food-poisoning-esque symptoms.

The antibiotics I've been prescribed aren't helping to it's probably viral, and a virus isn't more likely to make you sick the longer it sits in water right? Only bacteria multiply like that I thought.

Anyway I won't be drinking tea that old again.
Wesley Clerrybot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:28:52 EST ID:LQddayr4 No.573519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These won't work. I've never gotten usable seeds from WF.
Shit Backleridge - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 13:48:44 EST ID:5sWQtFwt No.573539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've had to use seeds from WF before to avoid withdrawals and they got me feeling alright. Not great, pretty bad for PST, but definitely usable if that's your only option. Sprout's always has good seeds, though, and there's a local store in AZ with a huge bulk section that always has dank seeds, so I never go to WF unless it's literally the only place I can go.

Cool, thanks.
Nathaniel Gundleworth - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 15:23:21 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Drank about half a 1 lb wash of SN around 7 this morning. Its now 3 in the afternoon and I'm still riding a pleasant little wave. Definitely a good batch. Not knock-you-on-your-ass good, but beats the last batch I had by a long shot. Though keep in mind I have 0 to low tolerance atm.

I spent some of my time high trying to write, but it was going absolutely nowhere. I'd get towards the end of a sentence then I'd nod out, but I'd keep writing and as a result the page is full of sentences that start off coherent and then suddenly descend down the page into tiny, trailing scribbles.

How the fuck did Burroughs do it?
Cedric Pummertidging - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 04:12:53 EST ID:0w/9n6wZ No.573578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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opiates and food dont mix well I tell you hwat. ruins the high!

Ah but nausea goes away with tolerance.
Ah but to get tolerance you need to dose frequently.
Ah but to dose frequently gives you awful bowel problems.

What a shitty drug. I want my $400 back.
Cornelius Crengerlan - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 03:53:10 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I know it's been a week, but I just want to say that that shit blew me away despite my initial impressions. I drove my car off the road several times after nodding hard - no damage somehow - then I don't remember an entire 3-day span and woke up with my place a fucking mess - good times. Ordering more tomorrow.

Hedda Drendledale - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:42:12 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys! PST Newbie here, have a 5lber of SN coming to me from the river today. I was just wondering how much I should try rinsing for my first time, I'm a bigger guy (about 280 lbs) but I haven't done opiates in over 6 months. I've heard people say try a half LB for the first rinse but I've also heard people say start with even less than that.
Betsy Dartshaw - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 15:08:28 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.573621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
out of the last 5 or 6 bags ive gotten from SN only one of them has been good

either that or my tolerance is climbing strangely

but i mean like 2 of these were basically inactive

oh well its almost time to come off anyway
John Crudgestock - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:27:58 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At 280 lbs, a 1 lb. wash should be good. However, the trick is to make sure that you take your first dose when you don't have anything to do for a while. You can never be quite sure how you're going to be effected.

My mistake when getting back into seeds is that I took my first wash of just 2 cups (I'm only about 120 lbs) when I had class all day. Needless to say I got a lot of comments.
Cornelius Crengerlan - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 17:29:58 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Depending on the potency of the batch a 1lb wash could be waaaaay too potent for someone who's been clean for months, even if they're larger.
Cedric Claycocke - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:44:45 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't have a scale so I'm going try about 2 cups (i know cups are a volume measurment not weight yadayada) but I'm going to go about drinking it very slowly to get a gauge for how I react to it.
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 07:25:50 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.573667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Agreed. My first PST dose (at no tolerance) was unmeasured -> very nauseas.

My next dose was 7 grams of SN, which was pleasant. Then 12g, 15g, 20g. Now I can do an oz and be okay.
Cornelius Blythedale - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:44:07 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That feel when you open the box and...

Exp. 10/6 T3R3177 - r3dd1t calls it the A+ batch of 10/6 which was generally good.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:23:01 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This should be enough pods for tonight's tea
Hedda Trotwater - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:34:05 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good plan. 2 cups is a pretty solid starter dose. Cornelius is right, 1 lb is a little much. Sorry I kinda jumped the gun there. I forgot how used to PST I am haha glad you didn't listen to me.

God speed m8
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:44:47 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Brewed 25 pods up. Feels anticlimactic.
Gonna have to extract the morphine from them and shoot that sheiit.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:14:57 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.573684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nice, were they from SPP? Why not just ground them up into dust and mix the dust into juice and drink that? That's always been my method and it lasts 5-8x longer than shooting.

2 hours into 1/4 lb and feeling good, about to take another 1/3 lb or so - this shit is stong, I'm glad I didn't start with a pound like I usually do. Again, it's SN river Exp. 10/6, batch T3R3177 that I ordered just yesterday. A to A+ quality.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 13:37:36 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ground them up in a blender, added 1 and a half cups of water, squeezed through a cheesecloth, got 100mls of opaque red-black liquid (looked similar to laudanum); they came from a UK vendor, got 1kg in total.
I'm scripted methadone so I'll be shooting it (probably a gram in total) out of curiosity. Might acetylate it first if I can get some acetic anhydride or acetyl chloride.
I'll get a friend over to the house tomorrow to work as a lab assist. Will probably extract using surgical spirit and lye.
Eugene Fepperfoot - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 22:46:08 EST ID:AXqNiov9 No.573708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So a little update. Did a wash on the 2 cups and drank half of the brew, definitely feeling it. Not sure how I feel about the actual high though it feels rather muddy compared to other opiates, it's not unpleasant though just different. I don't really know if im going to drink the rest of it tonight because i feel like if i did i would feel sick.
Baron Von Feelsgood - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 22:58:41 EST ID:zeBRp/4R No.573710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take an antiemetic such as promethazine, diphenhydramine or (if you can get a hold of it) ondansetron.
Ontansetron + a sedative antihistamine knocks out nausea completely in most cases.
Fanny Grandstock - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 20:55:32 EST ID:v/HV3g9k No.573807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What do you guys think of the new TNT site? Is it legit and trust worthy? I got a bit sus'd out at first when I went on it.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:45:08 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.573971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've always found TNT to not be worth the price. I understand the interest in seeds that are never bunk, but we have one or two brands right now that never churn out less than 3.5/10 quality, average of 4.5/10. Other said brands are $4-6/lb for solid shit, whereas last I checked TNT was around $10/lb. it's just not worth it, best case scenario they're twice as strong and you break even comparatively.

My recent FTL experience did not meet my standards. Sure it was only one bag but I've bought at least 50lbs from FTL in my life and every time it was comparatively garbage. We have a gold (or at least silver) standard right now after the slump we had from the Fall harvest.

Those Winter and Spring 2014 seeds will likely never be matched again. It just won't happen.

Havent had a 9/10 or higher since then.
Basil Chumblestark - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 22:01:57 EST ID:pARULwDs No.573978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Made a 3 cup batch this morning and chucked it back all excited to have a cozy Sunday getting Sunday things done. Whoops.

I went to the library to do some reading and lo and behold, 1 hour later I'm doing the chin-to-chest dance in my seat. Eventually the book just drops out of my hand and the guy sitting across the room was just like, "dude, I think you need a nap."

So I went back home and nodded out all day. Pretty much wasn't productive again till 6 hours later when I managed to scribble out 1 page of the short story I've been working on.

Respect the tolerance break folks.
Fucking Denningwater - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 01:21:09 EST ID:E/MYjo7I No.573983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
anyone know the status on australian supermarket brands? are they still bunk?
Nathaniel Worthinggold - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 05:20:38 EST ID:MJ2IkSeC No.573989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Last time I tried the ones carried by both major chains (new years day) they were still pretty damn weak. Not inactive but I took ~4kg then ~2kg for a pretty average buzz, bupe probably plays a role though. For real though wholesale seeds online are so much cheaper, like $6.50 a kg cheap and very likely stronger from what I hear (though I don't have a reliable source on that). Definitely the way I'm going to be going if/when I try this again since I could get 15kg for just under what I normally spend on one dose.
Nathaniel Worthinggold - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 05:29:16 EST ID:MJ2IkSeC No.573992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just thought I'd add that the current batches have a lot of clumping from what I've seen, bought 3kg the other day but ended up dumping the brew because reasons.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:49:12 EST ID:TlmBTlyw No.574092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Didn't have a chance to dose my 4oz maintenance yesterday...

Instead of dosing all 8oz like a complete fool I'm splitting the difference and measuring up 6oz right now.

>Let's get buzzin
>X Files after the comeup

My problem is I never shake and strain both washes before starting the other one. So my ultimate situation is downing 1st wash within 15mins maybe 20-30 if I'm not paying attention, and tl;Dr

>My washes are too staggered I need to finish all three in 10mins

Fuck. It's the only way I get high off these.
Doris Nangerwell - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:18:20 EST ID:UMxO2uwC No.574102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Since the river is currently out of WGN and most SN, I'll be hitting Sprout's in my city on Friday night. I'm glad I came across this post, as I'm a bit nervous about it and if they'll be washed. I called them and they do carry bulk seeds. Are they likely to be unwashed since their from Sprout's? Is there a way I can tell if they're washed or not there at the store?

Does anyone else have any experience with them? Thanks!
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:32:49 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>River out of SN

WTF!? Yesterday night they had all sizes with 1-day ship available now they're out of all but the 1-lb!? Goddamnit I was going to order today!

AND FTL (E) no longer gets Prime shipping?! What the fuuuucccckkkk!!!

I was planning to binge on pst and addies from thursday to sunday - shit is ruined!
Shitting Dipperbane - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:00:39 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why dont you order SN straight from their site?
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:07:16 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
B/c I have a need... A need for shipping speed.
!pr5VMTw.cM - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:12:27 EST ID:HDgveaMZ No.574144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is what I've been up to lately, PST and amphetamines is a nice combo
Rebecca Bluckleched - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:09:55 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.574158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just got a shipment of SN, straight from the site. My last batch was iffy, rate it at a 5/10. There were goodies in it but it just didn't give me that warm fuzzy,feeling. The new Batch I got has a lot code of t10r2457 and an exp date of 11/9 let you know how it goes
Panda5 on Android - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:30:41 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please, for the love of poppies, tell us how it goes. I've yet to get a bad batch but /r/poppytea has been saying some scary shit about the recent ones. Please, if you could, include a pic of your washed water in good lighting and tell roughly how much you washed with. If you're new, know that this site automatically strips image EXIF data so it's untraceable - of course its legal anyway so yeah.
Rebecca Bluckleched - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 15:16:49 EST ID:MV8rPz2m No.574178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it went really well, I don't have a pic of the wash and I used raspberry iced tea to wash anyway so you wouldn't be see anything. I used ~1/2lbs of SN and I could see a thick ring of sediment at the bottom of my cup right after I strained my second wash!! feeling good and I ate ice cream so I didn't really get much of a nod but I drank it only 3 hours ago. i'd give it an 8/10 and I did get the bags with the red line at the top
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:42:58 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks for responding! There is hope!
LaDiDotty - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 19:15:10 EST ID:tCTxneYl No.574186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys,

My last order of SN was better than several of the orders before it, prob a 6-7 out of 10. I also have been ordering FTL which I'd rate about the same.
But, last night I had something weird happen. When my SN order came in I kinda forgot I still had some FTL left & began using just the SN. (My bags came direct from their site, have a red strip across the top & an exp date of 11/9/17. The FTL bags also came direct from their site w/an exp date of 12 /17) So last night I went back to using 1/2 SN & 1/2 FTL approx 1 cup of each. I couldn't figure out why I wasn't feeling as good while using only SN until last night. After drinking most of the wash from the FTL & SN combo I went to sleep. When I woke up this morning I was still buzzed.
FWIW I have a fairly high tolly & this could've just been a coincidence. I've also been using ULDN which made a huge difference in the beginning but lately not so much. Not sure if I'm taking the correct amount. Anyhow, to see I've just mixed up another wash w/both brands. I will report back later on what I noticed.
Have a great day!
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:09:03 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuck it to hell. I just wrote a huge post and it got deleted. Don't you guys love it when that happens. Any I got some SN with the red seal for the first time and natural panicked. They look the same(no reds), smell the same but they felt a tiny tiny TINY bit damp. Being in WD this worried me so I dosed a little higher than I normally would. Looking back at it not sure it was the best idea but easier said than done when in WDS. My first glass was about 40 minutes ago and I can confirm they definitely are not bunk. It was likely shitty coincidence that led people to believe this because I've had bunk bags without the red seal. Now I'm starting to get a little itchy and my feet feel like theyre sinking in quicksand.

Will report back as three day ago so on to tell you guys how it played out.

tl;dr SN red seal doesn't mean bunk.
Ian Fovingfadge - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:21:37 EST ID:bwsAT6cS No.574222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could someone explain the abbreviations to me so I can interpret all th3 data in this thread? SN? I come here infrequently but I've never seen this thread before, it's all new. Do you guys also have a page or something that helps point in the direction of where and how to make pxt?
Jenny Gillystick - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 14:21:42 EST ID:Z336Y7AF No.574223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could someone explain the abbreviations to me so I can interpret all th3 data in this thread? SN? I come here infrequently but I've never seen this thread before, it's all new. Do you guys also have a page or something that helps point in the direction of where and how to make pxt?
Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:32:10 EST ID:FcSp2C00 No.574228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yup just different packaging.

Always remember to ctrl+a then ctrl+c your entire post before you hit submit or the internet will consume your post as a sacrifice.


No we wont. Apply some brain cells kiddo. Most of them are abbreviations for suppliers of seeds that are commonly good. PST is poppy seed tea and PPT is poppy pod tea.

Also speaking of suppliers anybody try WGN anytime recently? I noticed theyre cheap and seem to have good reviews. May just end up grabbing some.
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:05:05 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574229 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Anyone have experience quitting cold-turkey?

My GF has a bit of a PST habit, daily user, uses once per day for last several months, started because of chronic pain that doctors wouldn't take seriously. She is quitting as of this weekend - cold turkey - and I'm not sure exactly what will happen. I have my own stash of stuff - kratom, weed, phenibut, ashwagandha, kava - plus generic naproxen and stuff. I'm assuming kratom would be a good idea, weed for nausea, phenibut or ash as needed for anxiety?
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:32:29 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've only tried SN and FTL(E). SN has always worked for me so I don't tend to try others but one time they were out so I went with FTL and it was worth the money. Not as good as SN but also not as expensive.

I've seen a few who swear by FTL though being the best. I just chalk it up to how much each batch varies.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:42:01 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It depends on how much she takes, exactly how long, and some variance of individual biology. I take 1-lb daily for binges (started 2010) then quit, get clean, relapse, repeat. When I quit this happens:

>Feel fine 1st 2 clean days.
>3rd day: Runny nose, possibly irritable and difficult to sleep. Cravings.
>4th & 5th days: Horrific liquid diarrhea that burns and smells a certain way every 15-90 minutes. Whatever one eats barely gets digested and can be seen in the toilet within 3 hours. If your stomach is empty it still feels like it wants to push stuff out which is slightly painful. Terrible depression and existential sadness. Constantly changing between feeling way too cold and way too hot. Sometimes I vomit. Joint pain where you've never had pain before. Constant smelly sweating that stains white bed sheets yellow. Occasional twitches. Runny nose and involuntary crying. Dilated pupils that make you look like you're on acid. One time after a particularly long binge I had heart rhythm inconsistencies in this stage and could not even drink a small amount of water without vomiting.
>Day 6 & 7: The physical symptoms start to go away but still depressed, not interested in activities and occasional liquid free-shitting.
>Day 8 Onward: It's all mental from here - you crave the high and all the things in life that remind you of the high trigger you hard. Relapse imminent.

Pod and seed tea have a large spectrum of opiates in them that act in more places in one's body & mind than just taking a pill with one opioid in it - so the effects of withdrawal are stronger. And tea lasts 5-10x longer than pills/dope so withdrawals are longer and more drawn-out.

My advice - have loperamide ready. It's like $3 for 100x 2mg lopes at wallmarket. It helps with the constant flow of liquid shit. Having something to help sleep would be nice. And something to occupy one's mind, such as an RPG game, helps.

That feel when I'm 12 days clean, out of physical w/ds, and I just ordered more.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 16:49:42 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574233 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>574229 I have but never without the help of other drugs to ease the withdrawls. For me personally turkey is the easiest because prolonged tapers tend to make me relapse pretty quickly. Weed may help but it may make this worse to in her mental state. For a PST cold turkey I would seriously want some kind of benzos of tramadol actually works great to just ease everything. As for the phenibut I can't speak on it as I've never tried it but I hear the side effects are really nasty so it may make her feel worse.

Depending on where you live you can probably get tramadol and codeine OTC.
Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:02:02 EST ID:m+fJWns7 No.574234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh one more thing I meant to mention. At first she isn't going to want to eat anything probably at least until the dhirrea kicks in. Pretty obvious info here but don't give her the naproxen until she has eaten cause it's an NSAID (and coming off a PST habbit i dont think naproxen will help in the slightest anyway).

Also don't underestimate what panda said about the lope. Will make her feel 500times better once her bowels loosen.
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:50:25 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>It depends on how much she takes, exactly how long

Pic related, I charted it (though it's estimated based on how frequently she bought each bag and the size of the bag)
Lillian Claystone - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 17:54:41 EST ID:+iKbEg8z No.574236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, she's been through opi withdrawals before, but I'm not sure she knows how much worse this is. She says her worst withdrawals ever were effexor IIRC rather than opis.

> For a PST cold turkey I would seriously want some kind of benzos of tramadol actually works great to just ease everything. As for the phenibut I can't speak on it as I've never tried it but I hear the side effects are really nasty so it may make her feel worse.

Both ashwagandha and phenibut have activity on GABA receptors similar to xanax or other benzos, though ashwagandha has a few other effects and phenibut has a really long half-life (like she has social anxiety and the first few days of school, took one before class and one after class and was good the whole day). I've used phenibut a couple times a week and never experienced any trouble with it, other than it tends to make me cramp more easily the next day (might be in my head though). Ash I used daily for two weeks and didn't have any side effects or w/d.
Panda 5 !EshdTRey7E - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 18:00:03 EST ID:YGGgCAwz No.574238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Max dose: Less than 1/3 lb.

Her w/ds could be fairly mild, but you never know. She definitely won't be puking and trying to kill herself for days like with ~2 lb w/ds though.
pills !zkraGArAss - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 00:55:39 EST ID:boxjigyU No.574251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hows the SN flow recently?
Last bag I had was 10/3 and was very not good.
Washes were supremely dirty, as in there wqs a fuckton of particulate, and had to filter 3 to 5 times to feel comfortable drinking it.
Hannah Blurrybick - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 02:28:02 EST ID:kJePIbZl No.574255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love getting things done on opi high but after the dosage gets too high you just nod out.

I miss my opi naive days when trams were enough to calm me.

Trying this low dose naltrexone thing. I've managed to halve my dose in 4 weeks but that could just be placebo.
Molly Clabbernore - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 03:32:45 EST ID:+0xUKj+s No.574259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>managed to halve dose
>could be placebo

That seems pretty unlikely, 50% is a pretty significant reduction. I guess if you're using different batches of seeds then it's possible that it's unrelated.
Charlotte Siblingferk - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 07:32:28 EST ID:1bFj5VDV No.574263 Ignore Report Quick Reply

first time be gentle
David Nillerford - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:43:48 EST ID:9k9FnYfx No.574266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone have some intel on recent batches from the main two on the river? I have experience but it will be my first time buying them and want to get the best currently available
Thanks opi
Aciddrop !tbcTsdGo8Q!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 13:52:09 EST ID:eZyg8VYF No.574267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
FYI: a full cup of seeds leveled off properly is almost exactly 5 oz. 3 cups as about .5 oz off from a pound.

I had some 10/25/17 sn last night, I'd give them about a 5-6 out of 10. Compared to recent previous bags that were about a 7 out of 10.
breakabond - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:40:54 EST ID:Mjy+WWFm No.574270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thats a huge dose mayn
pills !zkraGArAss - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 14:52:08 EST ID:nSDH1uIt No.574271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sediment does not mean anything good.
As in you dont want to drink the sediment. The SN recently has been having a fuckton of sediment being dirty as hell. You need to filter them.

I believe people should say their tolerances while reviewing cus you might rate it 8/10 but I would rate it a 2/10
Charlotte Siblingferk - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 18:27:00 EST ID:1bFj5VDV No.574281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was split between myself and my girl, there's still a good bit in the fridge. Amazing day, until I redosed a lil too much and since have been puking like a madman
Esther Mivingman - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:45:05 EST ID:UHBHAVIw No.574297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up with the SN red seed thing? I'm kinda new to this, been using a month or two. My packages have been getting red strips on them since January. Should I consume it? Order coming in a day or two...
Esther Mivingman - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:45:05 EST ID:UHBHAVIw No.574298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What's up with the SN red seed thing? I'm kinda new to this, been using a month or two. My packages have been getting red strips on them since January. Should I consume it? Order coming in a day or two...
pills !zkraGArAss - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 07:47:36 EST ID:oUy00Oic No.574306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the nrw design has nothing yo do with the seeds themselves. People are just being paranoid.
Theyre fine.

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