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PST/PPT General Thread 5.0 by WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:19:05 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's a new tea thread, since the old one isn't bumping anymore! Please feel free to post anything and everything about your poppy plant consumption here! Better to keep all of our faggotry (mine especially, heh) confined to one thread than allow it to spill over into the rest of /opi/! We'd love to hear all about your experiences — reviews and expiration dates help us to purchase the right bags!

We welcome anyone who'd like to take part in these threads! Come on in and name or tripfag; we don't bite! <3
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:28:27 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577070
Update: WGN is a good deal more potent then the other two (it even looks much whiter!), so I'd definitely recommend it to everyone for now! It's got me feeling reeaaal niiiice.~ Bitter as fuck!
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Ser-Craine - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:30:37 EST ID:DEyGqMPZ No.577089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577070
Just got me two 3 pound SN bags exp date 12/26
I was nervous because I have heard terrible things about SN lately, and been using the other two alternatives on the river

HOWEVER let me just say I washed up about 1 and 1/2 pounds of these seeds and the tea is dark as fuck and decently bitter, all signs point to a good batch, I'll bump when I start to feel any effects. Working on my second wash right now.
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Nell Blollybuck - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:49:04 EST ID:4/wgLTOk No.577096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ever since the SN quality drop I've been paying extra for seeds from the bomb supplier and thankfully they're some of the strongest I've received in a while, warm and cozy. i've lost track of my taper as a result so I'm trying to get back on track but really I'll deal with anything over shityy seeds. waiting patiently for things to pick back up once seed season gets rolling
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Charles Sammlebidging - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:59:10 EST ID:ktk8ROuS No.577099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
jesus OP is not fucking around.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 23:55:41 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577099
Lol you should've seen me when I ordered 50 lbs of the FIRE SN seeds last year. Hooooly shit, that was a fun time. The moment they get back to that level, I'm bulk ordering again lmao!
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Simon Mashbore - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:27:57 EST ID:lLPY64hC No.577114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577099
honestly if you use daily the shit piles up, especially when you realize "shit, I'm not NOT going to need more a week from now, might as well buy in bulk"
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Priscilla Lightham - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:06:16 EST ID:KQIpcZ8H No.577117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so how bad is everyones habbit? i'm usually spending at least 100 dollars a month on my daily habbit but now even this is not enough because of how shitty the passover drought was. thus far i've spent 300 dollars on seeds trying to find some hot hot fire, to no avail.
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Bringer Of Fair Discount & Bargains - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 02:57:09 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.577118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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If sn is still good, I just found a discount code for 10% off for ya'll. "SNR10"
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Shit Debberstadge - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 04:03:11 EST ID:bkPJ152r No.577120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would really like to try this, but it seems like always a gamble with every batch. It isn't much to try, but I would still feel pissed wasting the time and seeds..Poor things could have been made into something tasty or if you had the right climate could grow some nice ornaments for later.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 08:01:08 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.577121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577118
Cool! Thanks for that! Here are some other SN codes, in order from oldest to newest~ I'm not sure which of these, if any, still apply, but I figure I ought to list them all out here (yours included, just so they're all easy to find!
RT10SC
SNRT10
SNR10

>>577114
You keep your bags lol? I throw mine away, just because I don't wanna deal with them anymore~ I'd probably have nearly 30-40 by now lmao! Who has the most, I wonder? How many bags has everyone bought total? I know someone's gotta have >100 LOL

>>577117
My habit is generally ~120g every 36-48 hours... Generally. Recently, however, I've been really doing everything I can to catch good nods, and so that means that I've been taking 2-4*~120g (so 240-480g total - up to over a pound every day sometimes lmao), goddammit that's just so much so quickly - it means my supply will run out too fast Ahh, to return to the days when I had zero tolerance lol. Oh well, it shouldn't be TOO terrible. I'm hopefully getting a job soon!! >:3 So that's really, really good! ~$10-15USD/hr, depending on a few things! Which is like... WOW! I mean, obviously it's no doctor, lawyer, or business exec. job lol, but it's still MUCH better than minimum wage (plus, I'd hate working for minimum wage, just on the principle of the thing - you LITERALLY could not get worse pay than that lmao)!

>>577120
These days, if you buy one of the "big three" you're very nearly 100% safe from getting a completely bunk bag! I think the lowest we've recently seen is something like a (subjective) 5/10, I think? But it's usually higher than that, especially if you rotate brands! Plus, it's very nearly impossible to waste time lol. It takes so little time to make PST, especially when you start to get really good at it, that you shouldn't have to worry about anything! Additionally, just because you used them for tea doesn't mean you can't at least try to plant the seeds! Multiple people, myself included, have had seeds germinate after chucking them into some dirt lol. However, they will, of course, have a lower germination rate than if you had gently and lovingly planted each individual seed lol!

>>577089
You never bumped; they couldn't have made you fall out, did they? Haha but really, please do report back when you check the thread again! I'd love to get a #/10 rating from you!

>>577096
Which supplier is this? FTL, WGN, or something else?~ I remember waayyy back when, around the time I first discovered PST, I tried using International Spice seeds, since they're $190/50lbs. I wasted almost $200USD on them lmao. They were 100% COMPLETELY INACTIVE - no joke. I got absolutely ZERO high from them at all. I only felt a placebo effect lmao (well, my pupils got pinned also, but it must've been due to some weird alkaloid, because it was entirely euphoria-free lol) - thankfully(?) I went back and tried other brands, but not before I tried buying from them AGAIN! What is wrong with me lmao! I think I got like 50lbs more total, give or take.

Speaking of this, does anyone know off any brands - aside from our "big three" :3 - which can be ordered online at comparable amounts/weights with comparable pricing? I'd much prefer it if you had already tried them out and could attest to their being active - or at least not completely bunk lol - but if you haven't, that's fine! I'm just interested in broadening our horizons so that we have the greatest amount of choice in this, hopefully ensuring that we can always buy active bags, even if a couple of them are having a bad season!

I genuinely think that the reason the September/October bags were SO GODDAMN FIRE is because the summer growing season had just ended, and so the companies had just harvested a fuckload of FRESH seeds. Not only that, but because the summer growing season/the summer bloom tends to be the best in terms of morphine content produced, when they cracked open these pods, there was just an insane amount of morphine stuck to the seeds!! So, my advice to everyone here would be to START SAVING UP NOW! Save up as much money as you reasonably can so that come September/October, after an initial test buy of your preferred brand, you can bulk order those motherfuckers and stock the fuck up on the absolute most FIRE seeds you'll see for a year!! That would also explain why the seeds we're getting now are pretty meh. Lots of the seeds they're selling have either been sitting in storage for quite some time, possibly giving the alkaloids a chance to break down (or perhaps something else is breaking them down? I'd love to hear your thoughts on the matter!), or else come from a winter crop, where the plants got minuscule amounts of sunlight and it was cold as fuck, meaning the plants were probably all stunted to hell, and producing morphine was the last thing on their minds - they were probably much more focused on just barely surviving lol and trying to grow, so they produced hardly any morphine at all!

I'd love to get your feedback on all of this, the above paragraph especially! I really do think it's got some validity to it - quite a bit, in fact! Happy PSTing ;3 <3
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Esther Tillingville - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 15:51:58 EST ID:IZSFrvIG No.577138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577089
How was it? 3lb SN 12/26 T9R1857 just arrived from upriver. Bout to do my thing. Will report back. I'm nervous because the last SN 3lb bag was beyond bunk, I'm talking straight washed. Say a prayer.

I should mention, not that yall care, but this is my last bag for a while. I have to see my PO in less than 2 weeks, and I can smell a test coming since it's been 6 months. Luckily, I just picked up 30 2mg klons from the pharmacy. I've been going pretty much nonstop since January. For anyone who's been there, how bad are the w/ds going to be? I've heard they're beyond horrific due to the multiple opiates in the tea, worse than just about any other opi w/d. I've been through w/ds for H and Vics before, which destroyed my ass, so I'm a bit nervous. Whats the length I should expect, and will the klons be as much help as they were for my previous detoxes?

Thanks for any answers or help fellas. I'm scared, i can't lie.
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Emma Smallman - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:33:01 EST ID:kBdCbCB7 No.577148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577138
Well you know if you do the math, you can plan a linear taper.
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Bringer Of Fair Discounts & Bargains - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:33:21 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.577163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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PLEASE ONLY USE IF MAKING A BULK ORDER, IT'S A 1 TIME USE AND I DON'T WANT IT WASTED ON SOMEONE TRYING TO SAVE 75 CENTS

FTL 5% OFF
T6PE-1QXT-3V51

Expires on: May 20, 2017

Please only use if you're doing a bulk order
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Bringer Of Fair Discounts & Bargains - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 22:42:24 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.577164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577163
LAST ONE FOR NOW GUYS, 10% OFF FTL, ONLY USE FOR PURCHASES OF 100$ OR MORE, pls. (DANK 10$+ SAVINGS)

6N3N-D35V-57BL

P.S. Check the email they send you after you order, that's where I've been finding discounts. If everyone posts their code we could have a lot of fucking savings my friends.
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Basil Goodhall - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 07:55:13 EST ID:OwUEtCsO No.577194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is the smell of pepper indicative of anything? Completely new to this.
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Archie Blatherworth - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:09:20 EST ID:QtdD3W3G No.577197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577194
Yes. Pepper is a good smell. Truly though, the biggest indicator is bitterness. It should taste like CWE.
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Simon Pullybedging - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:40:29 EST ID:QuKu0wS9 No.577198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How do you go about IVing it?
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Thomas de Queasy - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 15:47:48 EST ID:iFUuIhxy No.577201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577198
Turkey baster bruh.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:15:21 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.577209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577198
i hope your not serious. Its possible through A LOT of work to isolate and extract the morphine but do not even bother with that. Do not IV tea PLEASE. The concentration of alkaloids is super low and theres so many fats and oils and all other kinds of non water soluble and dangerous things in it you cannot IV tea from seeds OR pods. Even if youre trolling i really need to make sure nobody thinks they should try this. This would be more dangerous than IVing straight opium gum in water. You must not IV tea.
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John Duckridge - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:35:18 EST ID:ylmIPEPs No.577220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just realized how much bags can vary.
Got a new shipment of SN which is 4x stronger than the last.
Jesus christ I'm nodding.
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John Duckridge - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:37:32 EST ID:ylmIPEPs No.577221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577198
u insane? notice how fast the tea expires when left out. It's got all sorts of microbes in there.
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John Duckridge - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:53:18 EST ID:ylmIPEPs No.577222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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just got a good 25 pound shipment. lately I just filter them directly. don't want any residue left behind!
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 05:54:52 EST ID:iVHbO6Kw No.577226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577222
Morphine IS water soluble, of course; being the alkaloid that it is. That's not to say some of the morphine hasn't been absorbed into said plant matter where, then consumption is needed.
-You mind telling me the order date as well as the exp. date for that SN shipment?

>>577121
Morphine is also a fairly, surprisingly stable compound; it can be left in a container for decades and still be good from even antique bottles and, not to mention, even morphine gets somewhat boiled when it's mass produced into diamorpine. I can see the seasonal change effecting the quality toward low opium yield however not through simple storage, unless it was left in a hot, hot wearhouse but even still.


WGN is almost always pretty decent, at least for now. Ordered 25lbs on the forth and got it delivered on the 11th thanks to THEIR slight screw up - Didn't open it until now because of other, leftover seeds, though I should have sooner to give up-to-date info on quality. Exp. is 12/17 with an ever so slight difference in quality, but nothing adding an extra cup (~⅓lb) won't fix if dosing per pound. However, I should have just order 50 instead of 25 for convenience; WGN doesn't ship on the weekend or after a certain time on Friday.. Not to mention usually takes four or five days in shipping, but I digress. .
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 07:10:00 EST ID:iVHbO6Kw No.577228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577226
Sorry for the DP, but does anyone know if WGN off the river's any good? - For possible emergent contingencies and whatnot if am out during the weekend sometime; sharing this shit makes it go A LOT faster.

Nb, although I already b'd.. So, sorry for b'ing? - Not the first time I've said that lmao
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Martha Croblingwell - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:12:12 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.577242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Be me this past Friday.
>Could get 4-lbs direct on Tuesday.
or
>Could get 2-lbs upriver "guaranteed Sunday delivery."
>Same price.
I had gotten Sunday delivery once before and it was great. I wanted it asap.


>Order the 2-lbs Sunday.
>Tracking at 8 am: "arrived at hub."
>Tracking at 10 am: "arrived at hub, updated delivery: Monday."

I'm so pissed at the USPS Sunday crew.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 12:22:22 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.577243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577070
Hey guise

>Am currently toasty on 10oz seeds and 40mg vyvanse

These seeds were bad again so I didn't even bother rating them. They're a bit old though like a 12/26 SN bag and WGN one. I would rate both like 3/10 assuming my other batch I reviewed was a 2.25-2.5. You wouldn't get these one is you ordered today so.

It's very no rhyme or reason with these batches. I said fuck it and made 1lb of each brand in a large vat and drank it all. I'm pretty sure I just went to bed an hour or two later. I was 6/10 from flipping 2lbs 2.5 washes each (I share the last one on both brands)

I really hope the old seeds come back. Things are very bleak where I am and I'm down to like 10 days to get 100+ hours of work done.

I can't believe I got to that stage where one gets WD within 30-36hrs, yet 3x my daily dose doesn't get me super high.
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Edward Pockspear - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:26:31 EST ID:EUJZoLVx No.577246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You talked me into it with Star. I bought a pound from WGN, FTL, and SN.

I hear many differing doses so what is recommended for a a 170lb male with no opiate tolerance? 1/4 lb?

Should I sip on it over the course of an hour or down it all?

Would 3 days between teas be a fair amount of time to fairly rate my experiences or will I still have residual tolerance?
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Martha Croblingwell - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 13:45:46 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.577248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577242
Holy Scatman, it came anyway!

"English Food" from upriver.

Like usual - straight fire. Not 'bitter' like SN was a few months back but it definitely has that vile opium-water taste. Pic related - I shake for 30 seconds at most. This is the largest bottle I have so I'll need 2 bottles full but goddamn.

I haven't had a batch worse than 7/10 for 2 months now* since I switched back to English Food from sn; and I've been ordering both from food's site and the river.

And when I say 7/10, I mean it. I've been doing PPT/PST (and posting here) since 2010. The batch I got last week was so strong I nodded off in the shower, hit my head, and got a concussion lol so I'm going to do a half pound at most today. And to think, the best seeds around in 2012 would take 3+ lbs to work and my tolerance was way lower then.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:40:20 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.577255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577246
What I'm going to say is controversial but please trust me.

You want to find the optimal dose (whatever that is for whatever specific purpode) and basically consume it all at once, or relatively all at once (I would say finishing the entire brew in 10mins, 20mins max if you just can't get it down).

The absolute clowns over at clownvillle keep telling people to start with 10 grams of seeds. They are complete idiots.

4oz alone without other medications is statistically incapable of killing a 170-200lb male. So what somebody got a little sick and puked once. That's not a real overdose. I'm so tired of hearing "omg dosed 30g seeds and puked was high all day."

You are asking intelligent questions; I just had to say all that.

Start with ounces not grams. This is because we don't know if they're good or not; NOT because you'll OD, but because some seeds are so weak that you'll get garbage effects over and over from being too cautious.

Normally I would have said SN (and FTL-E for the most part) has never sent out garbage seeds (below 3ish/10) but for the first time in several years I've been wrong this spring. All 3 are churning out junk (active but weak), decent, and at least some good seeds. You just never know especially with the 2017 mystery/weak batches.

>tl;dr start with either 2, 3, or 4oz measured with an accurate scale (no scoops/random measurement). You want to put them in something that can hold liquid and has room for air to shake. Shake the container like you're trying to kill a living creature inside for 3 to 5 minutes. Use something to filter/strain your brew, then refill the seed container with less liquid than before and shake again for 2 to 5 minutes. Strain the results, and depending on the seed quantity you'll be wanting to do 2-4 washes. I rarely do a 4th.

>drink it however you must to handle it. One way is drink/sip something sweet, then down a massive gulp of PST, then sip sweet drink. You really want to drink it all in 10-15mins, but do the best you can. If you're gauging your safety primarily on how you feel or the bitterness of your tea, you're likely an idiot. Weight is key/king. Potency varies but knowing the dose is most important.

>The goal is to drink the whole tea asap and to drink the correct dosage. High is more peak and less tolerance build. Drinking 1lb over the whole day for recreation is completely stupid.

>once you try 4oz, figure out how much you need. It might be 5oz or even 10 with these seeds right now.

>every bag is different. You'll want to do that 4oz tester (or less) on every new bag you try.


>You'll want to try all three bags on separate occasions to compare potency, but eventually you'll want to mix all three bags in when you make a brew (1:1:1 or whatever ratio you want) to statistically balance out any bad symptoms caused by "OD" uncommon alkaloids, possible fertilizers, etc. The idea is if say Thebaine OD is the problem, you're less likely to get a dangerous dose if the batch used 3 different sources with varying amounts of thebaine.


Good luck. Tolerance will definitely start to gain even at once every 7-10 days. That's why it's normally my suggestion for the nondependent to wait a week or two. Once the magic is gone you'll hate yourself for wasting it.
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Alice Dartson - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 16:41:00 EST ID:Y1coLXDX No.577256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey,
does anybody have a good EU source for unwashed poopies? If sourcing isn't allowed just point me to right direction pls.
Thanks
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Hannah Chongerchedge - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 18:20:19 EST ID:QuKu0wS9 No.577257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577248
Oh my god you use a lot of seeds. I wish you luck tapering sir.
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Nicholas Bunway - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 01:57:54 EST ID:w8L5F8Tw No.577277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577248
nice taste in bottled water
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Graham Pinnerbury - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:32:12 EST ID:8S8sQXms No.577320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anybody have any luck with buying from eBay? I know the mod on the Poppytea subreddit gets angry anytime anyone even mentions ebay, but I want answers from 420chan, not some redditor
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Bringer Of Fair Discounts & Bargains - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:38:52 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.577321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577222
You should have used the discount i posted mang!
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Nigel Pitthood - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:08:08 EST ID:4VOlWHdh No.577322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577248

I spent the whole day trying to figure out what "english food" refers to. Still no clue
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:24:39 EST ID:NZSaVF2M No.577324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577322
>English
>"Food"

How about FTL-E? Jeez you guys. I'm not even 100% sure but I guessed that within a minute or two. Possibly I'm wrong but that's my vote.
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Panda5 - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:21:18 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.577328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577324
Correct; I just think calling it English Food is more fun.
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Lillian Wattingshaw - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:53:52 EST ID:w8L5F8Tw No.577331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577322
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=English+Food+poppy+seeds
....rtard
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Shit Hevingstatch - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 15:51:23 EST ID:KxWbXesP No.577421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just realized that my local walmart carries both WGN and SN...I would guess most walmarts do.

No more ordering and waiting for this guy!
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 17:14:51 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.577429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577421
seriously? lts been forever since ive checked walmart but last i did they didnt even have BRM just fucking mccormicks. do u happen to be in the states? if so what department inside walmart like just in the spices aisle, and also what size are the bags and what are the prices like? equivalent to online prices or is there a sizeable mark up? great find though for serious mang excellent info for anybody else with a walmart that stocks bulk seeds.
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Clara Drogglestat - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:00:07 EST ID:3w5MX0Qx No.577433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
people in canada what brands do you get ? couldn't find any unwashed brand in stores and only sn on internet
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Cyril Feffinggold - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 18:14:05 EST ID:Djj6olmS No.577434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577433
I get the England variety of the FTL brand, 18 lbs off the canadian river. They just came out with new stock, may exp dates, fucking loaded with pod bits and very dank. The only thing is.. it's too expensive to get less than 18 lbs, and 18 lbs is enough to get you well hooked, so tread carefully.
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Clara Drogglestat - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 19:07:32 EST ID:3w5MX0Qx No.577435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577434
thank you cyril ill check it out
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Caroline Pockdale - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 12:15:24 EST ID:k60BOOUh No.577454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I went to pick up some gaba drugs today and stopped by a local shop that i occasionally clean out for poppy seeds and I was pleasantly surprised they already restocked their shelves.. last time it took something like 6 months to realize that they were out of poppy seeds. Hopefully whoever is in charge of stocking the shelves realizes that someone wants to buy poppy seeds regularly. I didnt buy much, only 500g, and the seeds are very mild but I have no tolerance and have a pleasant buzz from some tee.. i even appreciate the taste now but I did my 3rd rinse about 30 minutes after initially getting the seeds wet and I think i already tasted a tiny amount of mildew, although my stomach feels fine. The slight mildew taste reminded me of when bars dont clean their taps and the beer tastes mildewy, but as i was thinking about this i just jugged the rest of the cup for some reason, even though i should have probably spit it out.. oh well.
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James Honeyspear - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:13:15 EST ID:6hLaSPik No.577572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey guys, how's SN right now?
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Matilda Mirrymack - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 07:17:43 EST ID:KQIpcZ8H No.577573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577572 for me, not good. 2/10. some people have been saying it's hit and miss, others say it's hot hot fire. but so far it's been weaker than usual for me. so far ftl is good but wgn is really the best i've had this year so far.
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Jack Gavingpine - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:42:52 EST ID:1jYhBJ/I No.577582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just ordered a 4lb from FTL england, heard from a friend they used to be the shit, anyone know how they are recently?
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:51:21 EST ID:U2EwvqUU No.577586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577324
Ayy, Dr. Mario — check your email :3

Not necessarily the best thread, but I'm pretty comfy here. I'm thinking I'm gonna start doing ULDN, since my tolerance is pretty awful at the moment. Thanks, huge number of alkaloids lol. Does anyone know where I could get some naltrexone (generally - no sourcing) right away, or am I gonna have to wait a couple weeks for it to be shipped from overseas? Where would be the best place to get something like that?

>Me when I get my naltrexone
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:06:50 EST ID:/0ab81yO No.577593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577586

Got a new 5lb SN bag will review later. Seems the same shitty 2-3/10 range though.

I just want to get higher than the Queen of England for fucking once in 2017.

I'm starting to lose faith in whether I can even get high off these anymore. Really really losing faith.
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Sophie Clipperbury - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:13:08 EST ID:oiqdBQHi No.577595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577593
is the shill turt seed all bad these days?
I CANT GET SUBS SO MIGHT NEED TO GET BACK ON THE GEAR OR SEEDS LMAO
ALL I WANNA SAY IS THEY DONT CARE ABOUT US
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John Bunshit - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 19:18:16 EST ID:w8L5F8Tw No.577609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577586
natrexy brand nodict from a site about "all day biologist", but instead of bio someone who does chemicals
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James Blollertet - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:23:48 EST ID:itPI27KG No.577632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My latest bag of SN (exp 1/14 iirc) is decent and obviously active. Much better than the last two bags I had from them, but nothing fire either. I'd compare it to my 12/17 WGN in terms of potency. Maybe a 5-6/10. I have a decent tolly and was using 8-11oz every other day on those weak SN seeds and 6oz or so of these gives a relatively nice buzz and I can push it to once every three days before WDs get really noticeable. I even nodded out for the first time in months the other day on what was supposed to be a maintenance dose so that was a pleasant surprise. Hoping the trend continues and we get better and better seeds in the near future.

>>577586
I'm going to be trying ULDN/LDN soon as it's coming in the mail. You can buy it without scripts online. Just search it up. There's a small operation with a guy from Indonesia who sells them cheap ($40 for 500mg, cheaper for higher quantities) but with a less convenient payment scheme and a couple online pharmacies, but they ask for more info. I thought the pharms were cheaper, but the shipping is stupidly expensive ($25 flat-rate). AFAIK, unless you go see a doc and score a script (it's easy enough since it's not an abuseable drug--just say you're trying to abstain from drinking), the only option is online. You technically need a script, but you can buy/possess it if it's under a certain quantity and is for personal use (60 pills max I think).

On this topic, has anyone tried this and can they share some general tips/dosing schedules to start with? I know I should be starting under 10ug when using with opis, but how should I build it up to (hopefully) regenerate my burnt out receptors? I hear you should take some before bed and a little the next day with a dose, but the amounts are still unclear, ranging anywhere from 2ug-20ug, and up to even 1-2mg amounts if it's LDN.
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Shitting Fillysick - Wed, 03 May 2017 01:14:55 EST ID:YLPjiKAo No.577724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Does anyone know how to make a basic extract then past that refine into something with less material? Ive seen plenty claiming to make a smokeable extract from poppy seeds but I just want to make something I can put in a capsule and take instead of having to drink the tea. My first idea was an acetone wash instead of water then evaping it to try and make some kitchen opium so to speak, but after a little research alcohol is a much better solvant for opiates than acetone. Right now I just got my 4lb order from ftl england and its the 5/19 batch thats so much better than anything Ive gotten from ftl or anywhere else. I started with some tea just for a test run and with little tolerance(two 10mg vicodins get me a good buzz and light nodding during the peak if on an empty stomach) and I used 125g's(one cup of seeds) and started sipping untill I felt it and after about 45 mins(empty stomach) I stopped after drinking about half it and it was a pretty good sweet spot, light nodding during the peak for about 3 hours. Drank the rest of it after breakfast today and it was a good buzz but no nodding since I ate beforehand. So today I did an iso alcohol(98%) wash on about 200gs and its currently evaporating under a normal light bulb in a lamp in my closet. After its fully evaporated I think im going to add 200ml's of water and run it through a coffee filter or go buy some filter paper and use that instead to try and get rid of any dirt or plant matter, then evap that and if its a workable amount of material ill try to put it in capsules. Does this sound like a good plan or should I just stick with making tea with it? I like the idea of having capsules because it would be good to dose on the go or if I wanted to combine it with adderall or another stim I can just put powder and the refined opium into a capsule to get a low teir speedball in a pill. If this isnt a good idea should I just add water to the material from the evaped alcohol and drink like tea or should I just toss it? Any and all advice is welcome, and if anyone has a guide for some kitchen chemistry for making it even more pure that would be super helpful!
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Nathaniel Haffingtutch - Wed, 03 May 2017 05:10:18 EST ID:joJp/fdq No.577735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577632
when using uldn with pst, i would usually take 50mics, i think. it was much different than when using iv opis since they leave your body quick. on the needle i could take like 500mic naltrexone easily, its strange to find the right dose at the right time, because if you get the dose right, you get a phenomenal rush and buzz...much more so than without. could start with 5mics and increase by 5/10 day. when using pst i dosed uldn once/day. on the needle 1-3 times/day.
most ldn health effects dont work when on opiates, even if you will tolerate that much naltrexone
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herm1t !7ZEeD1eyfY - Wed, 03 May 2017 05:38:47 EST ID:Baq+AMUu No.577736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577724
Most people have found that the resulting extract from poppy seeds is nowhere near worth it and you get barely anything, you would need huge amounts of it and a huge amount of effort and chemicals to do it properly. Most people that have tried or even succeeded somewhat say dont bother.
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Fanny Gunnerwill - Wed, 03 May 2017 08:05:32 EST ID:omWgrvOq No.577739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Opened a bag of FTL-E exp.May 2019 yesterday. These seeds were noticeably more effective than any SN or WGN bags I have gotten in months. Rougher on the stomach, though (FTL tends to give me more tummy trouble than the other two brands regardless of strength) but I think it's worth it. If you are sick of getting crappy batches from SN then I recommend getting FTL for now.
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Cedric Cloffingstone - Thu, 04 May 2017 01:59:16 EST ID:YLPjiKAo No.577762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577739
>ordered 2lb bag of ftl for a test
>shits the best ive had in near a year
>blow through the bag in a few days because of constant redosing
>more euphoric than any other brand ive tried
>1/8th of the bag left, go check out website to get another 5/19 batch
>"OUT OF STOCK"
>mfw
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Octopuss !W0LF/neWGs - Fri, 05 May 2017 00:16:47 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.577786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577762

They restocked, so I ordered 2lb (from England)
This will be my first time trying PST. All the positive reviews give me hope its gonna be good.
Bump i guess in case any of you were waiting for restock.
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Jarvis Buzzbury - Fri, 05 May 2017 01:01:40 EST ID:tNmZHNQX No.577787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577762
When the fuck did FTL get so god damn expensive on the river? Was hoping for WGN and they're out just like most of the SN (which have been sucking ass), and shit is seriously like double what it was just a few months ago.
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Cedric Cloffingstone - Fri, 05 May 2017 01:35:06 EST ID:YLPjiKAo No.577789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577787
holy piss mate. Im >>577762, and when I bought them I got my 2# bag for 8.63, guess they noticed everyone fiending over that lot and bumped up the price
>>577786
sad you had to get them at that price, but a little advice for this particular brand since most people dont go out giving doses since alkaloids vary between brands and batches, Start your first mix at 100g's(a little under a cup) of seeds, a splash of lime juice(I find lime juice to be better at extracting than lemon) and then enough water to cover over the seeds when you give it a shake to make them sink at about an inch so you can clearly see the color of the water, shake for about 10-15 mins, most people say more than that because logically the longer the shake the more alkoloids right? Not neccesarily since when the seeds start to absorb the water the absorb as many of the alkaloids as the can because thats how they were designed to work in nature, so I only give it a 10 min wash my first time, strain, then a 20 min was the second time. Sip the tea slowly on an empty stomach for about an hour and a half and by then you should have downed half or a little over that much, if you feel pretty allright then keep sipping, if you get that sweet opiate stomach tickles like youve taken enough to get a good buzz go ahead and stop. Thats the best way for the first dose of these seeds, I eventually worked up to about 180g's being my nodding territory(a cup and a half). Happy poppy seeding my friend!
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Jarvis Buzzbury - Fri, 05 May 2017 01:56:02 EST ID:tNmZHNQX No.577790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577789
Yea, I'm kinda screwed right now. Had budgeted for 6lbs of WGN. They're saying that won't be here til 5 days from now. MY options are 2 lbs +a 1lber of SN, or 2 lbs of FTL with their massive price increase.

Anyone know of this other brand, SB, on the river that recently people are voting yes on? Or even another variety of FTL? Due to payment method, I have to go upriver for these.

I know this is common round these here parts, but I'm in a real jam here and any advice would be super awesome. Thank ye!
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Octopuss !W0LF/neWGs - Fri, 05 May 2017 01:56:22 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.577791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577789
Ty for the reply and quick guide, much appreciated. I hope it only takes around 100g of seeds, I was thinking I was going to need to use at least 300g. Havent used any opiates since last year so definately gonna start low.
Didn't even realize I overpayed but as long as I get a decent batch I'll be happy.
Nb
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Cedric Cloffingstone - Fri, 05 May 2017 05:28:41 EST ID:YLPjiKAo No.577797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577791
if its the 5/19 batch, 300gs with no tolerance would get you dopesick beyond belief assuming you kept breathing, we dont know what alkaloids are present at what amounts so I wouldnt tell anyone to go over 200gs with these seeds, even with a moderate tolerance. 125gs felt close to a little under 35mg of morphine sulphate but the ftl seeds feel much more euphoric to me. Just remember to drink slowly, you can always take more but you cant take less. After my 100gs dose I thought I could handle a 180gs with no tolerance since I havent had seeds in 2 weeks but appearantly thats all it took for my body to forget how to process all those alkaloids and I threw up about 3 hours after finishing that cup.
>>577790
if you can afford the 2lbs of FTL I say give it a whirl, in the past week I've heard that SN is still stumbling on their game, particularly rinsing the seeds even more but adding plant matter to make it seem unwashed, very shady buisness. Along with a few people telling me its high in other alkaloids but low in opiates judging from their bodys to response. Of course I havent tried them since way back 10+months ago when they were starting to slip and the doses didnt feel the same, weaker but made me sick if I tried to dose more(alkaloids again?), but I would give FTL england a shot, maybe youll find a new main source if theyre 3x as strong what youre using now
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Lillian Bullylurk - Fri, 05 May 2017 06:15:05 EST ID:cgFgoyZ9 No.577798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577797
>300gs with no tolerance would get you dopesick

Dopesick=WD symptoms, so no it wouldn't. If you have no tolerance you don't even.get dopesick. I get what you were trying to say but yeah, nah.
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Cedric Cloffingstone - Fri, 05 May 2017 09:05:13 EST ID:YLPjiKAo No.577800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577798
Ah sorry had the meaning backwards, one of my friends used to call it that when he did a high dose with low tolerance and even though I know it means NOT having your dope I Still say it wrong, derp
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Sidney Cellerbanks - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:52:33 EST ID:8n3CWveL No.577807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577255
>drink it however you must to handle it. One way is drink/sip something sweet, then down a massive gulp of PST, then sip sweet drink.
I puked one too many times from PST and now I can't stand the taste that I used to, in a way, love. What I did for the longest time was make juice concentrate with only one can of water added, then save the syrup in a jug and mix equal parts syrup and PST. Completely covers the taste, it literally just tasted like juice. Easy to sip and easy to chug. I recommend any grape or any of the Hawai'i's Own guava flavors.
Fair warning, however: that's a lot of sugar to consume if you're a heavy PST drinker. I put on some weight before I realized it was to blame, now I go with the grape or lemon Propel... Zero, I think. The sugar-free shit. Doesn't work as good, but it gets the job done.
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Bringer of Fair Discount and Bargains - Fri, 05 May 2017 23:46:48 EST ID:0HjEtSit No.577819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Food to Live 5% off (please use for bulk order only, 1 time use)

Once again, if you've ordered directly from ftl recently, there's a 99% chance they've given you one to two coupons. Post me here for dank savings

PSA: BRM is confirmed a good brand to stave off withdrawal and not tempt yourself to get high


t. Withdrawal free rn
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Albert Dorringridge - Fri, 05 May 2017 23:47:34 EST ID:0HjEtSit No.577820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577819
D3N6-1BHE-7LM7

Forgot to post woops
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Nell Winkingold - Sat, 06 May 2017 02:37:15 EST ID:cWx/bAvE No.577821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>junk seed, junk seed everywhere for months
mfw im on suboxone now
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Eliza Monningfoot - Sat, 06 May 2017 03:26:15 EST ID:omWgrvOq No.577826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577821
Dude what's wrong with your face?
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Eliza Monningfoot - Sat, 06 May 2017 03:26:15 EST ID:omWgrvOq No.577827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577821
Dude what's wrong with your face?
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sat, 06 May 2017 15:00:54 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.577840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577821
ive been in the same boat for a year now. Now every time i see the price to get even just two doses of decent seeds i remember why im on bupe. Subs arent the worst but i do wish methadone could be prescribed the same way as bupe.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sat, 06 May 2017 20:54:38 EST ID:XRqY18TH No.577851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's been a lil' bit, but I'm back with an update! Jan/2018 SN batch - a normal "maintenance" dose got me nodding out fucking hard. This is it, boys. I'm pretty sure it's beginning to reach the time of year where the crops start yielding the good stuff. Try out a test batch, and then buy in bulk - that's my recommendation, and what I definitely plan to do. These seeds are 8/10, no joke. Almost no plant matter, strangely, and the seeds feel sort of weirdly coarse. Much more so than usual, at least. Oh well, I don't mind lol. Because fuck, do I ever feel fantastic.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sun, 07 May 2017 15:39:14 EST ID:U8v5vglM No.577888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577609
Yeah, I found that site, but now I'm more convinced, thanks! However, how did you pay for yours? It wants me to use an e-check, wire transfer, or money order - and FUCK all of those payment methods. >:( I thought it said that one could pay by CC (though even that's still sketchy as fuck)? I dunno. What do you recommend, and what does /opi/ recommend? I really want to get this (because my absolute cunt of a doctor refused to prescribe me any naltrexone when I asked because "the naloxone in subs TOTALLY does the same thing gais, it's definitely NOT 100% inactive" ffs), and I feel it'd help me a lot, but I also don't want to have to deal with getting my girlfriend's payment info stolen
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Molly Fecklefoot - Sun, 07 May 2017 16:53:56 EST ID:MV+5g7ng No.577891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577888
I've been ordering from in-house over 3 years now, they're legit. They supply most of /cd/.

I always go with the e-check, never had an issue with it. They're pretty prompt about it, IHC usually ships within 72 hours of ordering. Then it's usually 10-14 days for me if customs doesn't fuck with the package.

Basically though InHouse used to accept CC's but pharmaceutical companies got some legislation passed that barred cc companies from doing business with oversees businesses that shipped pharmaceuticals to the US. Or something like that, they haven't been able to do CC's for a few years now unless you had a valid script.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Sun, 07 May 2017 17:07:49 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.577893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577888
Try to find reviews for all the places you find that are options. I dont know any so i cant comment on quality or saftey of any of the sites. I know there are like online pharmacy review/discussion websites id check those. I know Ive used these sort of sketchy pharmacies 3x total at 2 different places, for payment i always prefer wire transfer through w/u or mg, fuck e-checks and money orders are a hassle. If i dont trust them id usually rather use wire transfer than c/c just so if they turn out to not be legit they at least cant get more of my money.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Sun, 07 May 2017 18:38:26 EST ID:U8v5vglM No.577903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577891
What does the 'C' stand for? I'm thinking you're referring to IHP vu, yes? If so, then fuck yeah! They accept BTC, and for a 10% discount! That's definitely what I'm going with, then! Unfortunately, they seem to only have the Nodict brand, while I've heard that the Naltima brand is better. Oh well. The free shipping allows it to work out to nearly the same price, so this is going to be great! Thank you very, very much. This is actually a huge help to me!! And I may also introduce a couple of qt fembois to the site, as well, if the pricing ends up being cheaper - so they thank you as well! <3 I look forward to being able to nod like crazy in the near-ish future!

>>577893
Thank you very much! You definitely bring up a good point about that. I'd rather risk getting fucked over for the <$100 order versus putting the credentials at risk. Thank God for BTC!
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Molly Fecklefoot - Sun, 07 May 2017 18:51:10 EST ID:MV+5g7ng No.577905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577903
They run multiple sites, a "pharmacy" and a "chemist". "Chemist" is a mirror site they created to funnel people who bought certain meds without scripts so they could offer cc transactions to people on "pharmacy" who did have legit scripts. Don't think us customers can use CC's period anymore though.

Inhouse has been battling that payment shit for years and have had to do a lot of manuevering to stay in business but I can't complain, never missed a package from them and they've always seemed prompt on shipping (though customs can be dicks).
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Graham Claywill - Mon, 08 May 2017 12:51:48 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.577975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got another bag of English Food!

Pic related - As Tuco Salamanca would say, "this shit is tight, tight, tight!"
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Octopuss !W0LF/neWGs - Mon, 08 May 2017 17:08:52 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.577987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577975
Just got my first bag of ftl, its 5/19, so it should be the good stuff.
Gonna go up to get likes really quick then ill report back when im hopefully high as fuck.
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Octopuss !W0LF/neWGs - Mon, 08 May 2017 18:31:03 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.577992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577987
Drank the first wash, already feelin' it.
Only used about a coffee cup of seeds.
Doing 2nd wash, then I'm gonna chill.
This is better than I expected already.
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Mon, 08 May 2017 18:46:15 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.577994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577987
>>577992

Yeah, mine [ >>577975 ] are 5/19s, too. They're quite nice and I feel fantastic atm.
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Mon, 08 May 2017 19:59:44 EST ID:bvn43anT No.578006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>577070

I have an idea to create crude heroin from poppy seeds.

  1. Create poppy putty as per BigD's tek. This is most likely a mixture of low-density lipids that passed through the mesh congealed with the alkaloids and leftover low-volume plant matter.
  2. Smash and mix up the putty well in hot water, and then cool it in an ice bath so that the lipids and oils become solid.
2 (b). You could also use a non-polar layer to extract the lipids and oils once the alkaloids are protonated.
3. Pass through a fine filter.
4. You now have a solution of alkaloids. Recrystallize at basic pH.
5. You should now basically have a freebase version of pantopon, which is the preparation of the HCl salts of opium in their natural ratios.
6. Standard procedure with acetic anhydride, addition of caffeine or other modifiers of the vapourisation temperature.
7. I wouldn't inject this because god only knows what kind of sketchy stuff the acetylated alkaloids could get up to across your blood brain barrier all at once. Smoking and snorting have similar issues but it would be interesting to test (with a guinea pig).
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Mon, 08 May 2017 20:48:49 EST ID:6DTNpgA+ No.578010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577070
quality seems to be all over the place up and down between the big three but steadily on the rise. I got a #5 from SN and it's decent, surely a lot better than the weak bags we've had the last few months. will probably catch a nod but still have to use around double my normal dose for that.

however right before this bag I had #7 SN that was FIRE quality. a normal dose had me nodded my balls off and shit even made me puke on two different ocassions because of how strong it was and I barley ever do that at all when I get sick from taking to much. wish this #5 was up there like that #7 but it's still better than what we've been getting like I mentioned. I think we are reaching that point of the year where we will see continous rise in potency.
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Fucking Fuckingbury - Mon, 08 May 2017 23:22:39 EST ID:c75KoMVb No.578031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578006
Noy trying to be rude but this isn't new. There is even a note on the BigD PST extraction tek that says you can use the end result for homebake. You would get a lot of extra contaminants from skipping the isolation of morphine.
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nz !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 09 May 2017 00:47:25 EST ID:t2+NkZGa No.578048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People here do that and shoot what you described. Usually they just get some sap, they rinse and soda it then they acetylate it. Usually in the South Island though. Christchurch specifically. Lot of morphine users and shit cos drugs are expensive down there.

Despite the fact there's bound to be codeine and acetylcodeine in there, my mate down there who's done it said it was alright. I'll ask him for some pictures next time.

Another dude I know who's a real authority on the subject says he's gone from poppy seed to nice clean #3 and it's a nice hit. But for all your work, with a giant ass sack of seed you end up with like a shots worth,
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Seeds will suck - Tue, 09 May 2017 14:02:10 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Look for a drop in all seeds coming from England. The govenment is requiring poppyseeds are washed or treated so they contain no more than 10mg/kg
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Seeds will suck - Tue, 09 May 2017 14:16:28 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578097
No more than 10mg/kg of morphine is the new requirement for all seeds from Englands. That is why SN has been so bad and this will continue to get worse until all companies in England are the same. Dont believe do a web search on your own.
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Seeds will suck - Tue, 09 May 2017 14:17:01 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578097
>>578097
No more than 10mg/kg of morphine is the new requirement for all seeds from Englands. That is why SN has been so bad and this will continue to get worse until all companies in England are the same. Dont believe do a web search on your own.
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Seeds will suck - Tue, 09 May 2017 14:19:31 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577070
>>578097
No more than 10mg/kg of morphine is the new requirement for all seeds from Englands. That is why SN has been so bad and this will continue to get worse until all companies in England are the same. Dont believe do a web search on your own.
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Bye bye PST - Tue, 09 May 2017 16:26:55 EST ID:23x2rmkh No.578113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578101
It is the UK government making this law. That is why seeds in England just about disappeared from the shelves a while back. The exports are taking a while to catch up to this law. The have been recommending this limit for a few years but just became law end of 2016. Too many people getting sick from eating poppyseeds (not because of PST). So while there maybe an occasional bag thats good, expect the majority of the bags to be bad. There is a short grace period for exports to meet this standard, but when those are gone - it will be all bit over for St lovers.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Tue, 09 May 2017 22:52:59 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578101
I'm actually not finding it online... Could you link an article or something? Either way, total bullshit, and I'm really bummed out. I guess we'll have to start looking for the best brands from outside the UK now. We'll find a way (oh God I hope so)!
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RIP PST - Wed, 10 May 2017 04:04:07 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578144
https://www.food.gov.uk/enforcement/regulation/europeleg/march-2017-legislative-update-on-chemical-contaminants-in-food

Scroll down to the bottom to see: Morphine in Poppy Seeds...

There is a link in that article to a September 2016 meeting. Thats when this started but did not become law until March.
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Hedda Honeyshaw - Wed, 10 May 2017 04:24:25 EST ID:cWx/bAvE No.578161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578160
>on good practices to prevent and to reduce the presence of opium alkaloids in poppy seeds and poppy seed products
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/PDF/?uri=CELEX:32014H0662&from=EN
fucking pricks lol
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Wed, 10 May 2017 04:51:25 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578160
Wow, fuck them.

>>578161
Seriously lol.


However, I'm not TOO worried (at least not yet... But maybe I should be lmao). It says a target level of 50mg/kg, as well as some other things, so there may be a way to get around the regulations! But if a company does start washing their shit, I have a feeling that they're going to notice a very dramatic drop in their sales and profits from that product lol. So that would hopefully incentivize them to find a way around the regulations. But still, it hopefully shouldn't hurt to try to buy from them. If the seeds were obviously washed, then it's actually really easy to get a refund, so I'd say keep ordering them until you get something good. However, if they do all end up being shitty, then we may just return to how it was years ago, where you had to do several kg washes to feel anything lol. And if it did come down to that, I'd assume that the lack of demand would hopefully drive the prices down to be at least close to an equal price per dose. We'll see, I guess. But if the next bag I get is good, I may borrow some money and try to order 50lbs of seeds, just to stock up on the good ones while I still can.


I actually have a request for anyone who can manage it: would everyone please look into finding good brands which source their seeds from places other than the UK? I'm relatively sure that I actually got a pretty decent bag, and at a decent price, from Australia, but I'll have to double check on that. If I did, though, that means that all is not lost!! I can promise you all that I will definitely find a way lmao. I'm not even close to being at a point in my life where I can stop doing drugs, so I'm gonna make something work!! ;D

Yes, we're all safe!!! I just checked, and I DID get an order of FTL seeds from Australia for $4.25/lb (though it actually goes as low as $3.32[USD]/lb, in bulk), and while they weren't fire, they were definitely not bad. Oh hey, they're the left bag in my OP picture! They were actually pretty damn good lol, at least comparably. This is extremely good news for everybody, and it means there's absolutely no need to panic at all!
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Wed, 10 May 2017 13:26:33 EST ID:JafHF3Ou No.578175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not too worried about the ban in England. best seeds I've ever were SN last fall and isn't sourcing from England (as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong). yeah it sucks to still not be able to try out FTL when SN or WGN is shit but what I noticed recently is when one has gone to shit the others seem to be lacking too. I think it has a lot to do with the season and weather. as long as I can get SN and have a backup like WGN I'm not gonna sweat it. also SN seems to be recovering from the weak seeds we've all been getting last few months. I think in a month or two when it starts getting ready hot we will start getting those insane batches again.
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England seeds - Wed, 10 May 2017 17:29:15 EST ID:UmHBdUI6 No.578178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578175
Before this, England seeds were the best. Most pharmaceutical pain meds are made from their seeds.

SN & WGN are both England only seeds. FTL has seeds from several countries. Most people buy the England seeds, but it sounds like this has to change.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 10 May 2017 18:26:56 EST ID:LyV1ToCb No.578180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578175
One can only hope.

This is my first time actually paying attention to a season. I really wish I would have saved notes over the previous few years.

The stuff is just plain weaker than I remember; and I've had worse of a habit before. My most recent SN is like a 3/10 and WGN is ~3.5/10. Maybe I've just had very very bad luck with sticking with just the river for several months.

>not worried about England ban

All the big 3 import from the UK for some reason.

I am worried. And I'm the guy who tried convincing everyone that the US is fine for quite a long time.

I never saw a UK ban being the possible blow to the US seed economy.

These are weird times. I'm at a point where I just hit a huge low, I am using a lot of seed but I swear the seed is garbage. 22oz doesn't even get me euphoria from a 1:1 sn:wgn mix. So it's like, if there was a time to quit, it's been the last 3-4 months.

Anybody remember when we last had fire seed? I mean consistent 6/10 For everyone and quite a few 7-8.5/10 out there.

I want to say it was like November, and that the good shit stopped in August.
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James Grimwell - Wed, 10 May 2017 20:59:59 EST ID:QuKu0wS9 No.578186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578113
I blame circlejerk. They cant keep their mouth shut. They ruined the private (now public for all) RC scene, blabbed about the darknets, and there are chit-chatting about morphine in poppy seeds.
Thanks Obama.
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Rebecca Crurringham - Wed, 10 May 2017 22:05:42 EST ID:fSdkUT2U No.578191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578186
Say what you want but I just bought a g of fire dope from a guy on circlejerk
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Extract - Thu, 11 May 2017 10:08:14 EST ID:izfNEUpZ No.578201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>577724
I didn't read your post.. only skimmed it but here's a story: I tried to get Calcium Morphenate by adding Calcium Hydroxide into my tea and shaking then straining then decanting the water.

I'm not sure why but my Morphine product simply turned into a brown substance and sunk to the bottom of the cup; and the internet says Calcium Morphenate is water-soluble.

I was already in WD and I could tell that there was no C.M. dissolved in the water because I wasnt getting better when drinking the Lime-water tea with this sediment at the bottom. So I decanted the water significantly, drank the remaining shot that had loads of insoluble sediment and I instantly felt better; it was definitely morphine and perhaps some codeine.
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John Gurryford - Thu, 11 May 2017 10:29:58 EST ID:izfNEUpZ No.578202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578180
I feel you. I noticed that too, I was going to go on Methadone for a short while because of court stuff and I realized it had been months since I'd been really sick.

I wasnt getting cold sweats or anything, just lots of discomfort and such. And I wasn't able to get any nods from my tea but it kept me out of bad wd symptoms.

tl;dr: i noticed the same thing. you're right, now is the best time to quit for you. real talk
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John Gurryford - Thu, 11 May 2017 10:35:01 EST ID:izfNEUpZ No.578203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578180
Yeah, good shit stopped around November, +/-1 month
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Panda5 - Thu, 11 May 2017 11:42:37 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.578204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive been doing PST since 2010, many years with near-daily use.

I just got the single most potent bag ive ever gotten. It's an 8# english food from upriver and the wash water turns a DARK orange. The past couple months have been some of the best seeds ever, I haven't gotten bunk since February when I last tried SN
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Thu, 11 May 2017 11:52:46 EST ID:6DTNpgA+ No.578205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578180
well shit. I'm out of seeds and WD is inbound anytime now but I'm not going to get anymore. doubt I'm quitting for good but I want to take a tolerance break and at least wait until I hear about fire seeds again. never really tried to come off the PST so not sure how bad to expect the WDs. right now I've been doing about 1.5lbs daily but also of this weak shit. I have just a little bit of Benz so hopefully I can get through the really shitty first few days.
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Emma Pittwill - Thu, 11 May 2017 15:15:13 EST ID:nExcx3Cy No.578210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578201
I thought the calcium morphenate was meant to precipitate out due to low solubility/insolubility in water at that pH. IIRC correctly you change the ph and it falls out of solution
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James Grimwell - Thu, 11 May 2017 16:26:27 EST ID:QuKu0wS9 No.578214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578205
>never really tried to come off the PST so not sure how bad to expect the WDs.
Oh boy!
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 11 May 2017 16:54:00 EST ID:5Enne+iw No.578217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578214
Just wait. I love this question. It's horrible but it's really a soundoff as to how other "dope" users aren't that different.

For me a 1lb+/day addiction with 27+/days per month use for at least 3-6 months and multi month stretches behind that, etc etc., is

>day 1 either nothing or sad about what's about to unfold
>day 2: runny nose woo, maybe swears and feels too hot/cold probably cold
>day 3-4: the real shit starts. Don't expect to sleep halfway at all from day 3 to day 6-10.

>If you've never done IV street h and it's all you had to end WD, would you use it if someone nearby could administer it properly? For me it was 4 days, but thankfully I actually said no and coasted to day 5.5 and got more seeds.

That said I should very seriously consider a 10/14/20/30 day taper very soon. I've found that a week or less isn't worth the pain.

Don't believe everyone about 3 weeks...I felt like life had halfway turned around at day 5.5. Its just about 7-14 days. It is horrible just as bad as oral oxy or lots of Vicodin but with worse intestine WD issues.

I bet a transition to kratom wouldn't even be as bad maybe half as bad. Throw some buds beers and bend into that and you're all set. You're off morphine.

>with the shit seeds I bet I use less than 120mg morphine aka 80mg oxycontin

>can't wait to get clean yet can't wait to get back to chipping

>wait should I be trying to quit or chip? Shit

I'll at least try to wait until day 3 WDs.

Just a heads up i did more research and we may be getting 60mg noscapine for every 100mg of morphine in our brews.

Go see if those side effects bother you. I think it's the actual cause of the "thebaine" effect tbh.
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Dr. Crane !WQtw1VwZqo - Fri, 12 May 2017 11:13:35 EST ID:6DTNpgA+ No.578256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578217
looked it up the noscapaine. seems probable. I got nauseous a few times off the tea and even threw up with that last bag. I also got dilated pupils once. on day 2 now and it's pretty much unfolding like you mentioned. yesterday no issue. today runny nose and temperature is off. nervous about tomorrow. part of me wants to order a bag to taper with but I feel like I wont be able to control myself and will just keep dosing my usual if I do. that and seeing the poster above saying they've been doing pst since 2010 and just got the most fire bag they've had makes me want to say fuck it and just order some WGN.
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Octopus !W0LF/neWGs - Fri, 12 May 2017 14:17:43 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.578264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Im sipping on my last cup of pst.

I have saved all the already washed seeds in a huge glass and I was thinking of funneling all of them into a water jug and doing ine last wash on all of the already wasged seeds together. My only concern is they have been moist in the container for about 3 days now, so could i get sick or die from bacteria?
Main reason i want to do this is some portion of the seeds i only washed once cause im new to pst and was high and forgetful, but realized most portions of the seeds were good for at least a 2nd wash.
Safe to do one last big wash of all the seeds or is that gross and risky?
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Esther Clenkinbot - Fri, 12 May 2017 16:08:59 EST ID:KkJQtM10 No.578270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I want to make tea from the pods in my garden but I dont want to wait until they dry on their own, can I pull them up and dry them in the oven then make tea with them?
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Albert Wezzlewell - Fri, 12 May 2017 16:15:21 EST ID:wM3YF6Nm No.578271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578270
just lance them a lot but dont collect the opium, or do.

that or cut em down, break up into smaller pieces & dry with a fan or the sun or w.e-+
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Eliza Bicklewater - Fri, 12 May 2017 16:28:13 EST ID:nExcx3Cy No.578272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578264
Don't do it, the taste is unbearable even after 2r houram I'm sure you could get sick they start to smell very fermented.

>>578217
>don't believe everyone about 3 weeks.

Depending on the size of your habit it can last at least that long. I dont doubt it can take a lot less time too. Most physical symptoms are getting better by 10 to 14 days in but it can be 6 weeks before it's all over in my experience. Symptoms didn't peak until 7 days in.

I expect the alkaloid ratio of the seed you're using comes into it too as well as I individual variation. I suspect that thebaine is partly responsible for the long half life since oripavine is a major metabolite of thebaine. Oripavine is about as active as morphine but more toxic.
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Eliza Bicklewater - Fri, 12 May 2017 16:39:22 EST ID:nExcx3Cy No.578275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578272
>the taste is unbearable even after 24 hours

Is what I was trying to say.
Nb
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Fanny Nimmerlut - Sat, 13 May 2017 01:49:55 EST ID:uey4wCiy No.578300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I found a great little polish market that sells great seeds by the pound for 3.50 each. The seeds are great.

How long do you guys usually shake for? I shake for 10-15 mins straight. Is that overkill? Not long enough?

Also, would adding some sort of agitator in the bottle help mix up the seeds better? Something akin to those big plastic jack shaped things that go in those bottles that people use for protein shakes (or whatever they drink).
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Derluft !oCyNK.1Qtc - Sat, 13 May 2017 07:08:21 EST ID:kbUCPiKf No.578306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578300
You really don't need to add anything or shake longer than five minutes if you're going to do a second or even third wash within a relatively recent time of it's original shaking.


I've got some SN & another off brand off the river, coming on the 16th; will elaborate more if good. As always, WGN direct is decent, not grand or fire but decently good/sometimes great.
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Eugene Bleshwodge - Tue, 16 May 2017 23:00:22 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jee wiz, this thread's slow. I guess it's not surprising considering things on the River ,lol. I haven't done any sort of opiate for like 3 weeks now, getting thirsty for some tea if ya sniff my drift. However the River seems to have become bunk central; is this still the case?
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Jarvis Blobblehan - Wed, 17 May 2017 00:11:25 EST ID:5gdyEOEn No.578497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuuuuuuck me. I haven't been keeping up with this thread because I haven't needed seeds often enough to buy a shitload online; when I needed a few pounds, I'd buy from a nearby store with good seeds, but now I need more than they might be able to supply. Are some of the usual sources still good, or am I going to have to learn how to cop pills/dope?
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 17 May 2017 09:06:40 EST ID:rq3l5aOD No.578506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578493
I blame one person.

I'm getting a bag of FTL-E in today. That's supposedly the best right now on the big 3 but it's a whopping $8/lb.

It better be fire I'm used to the 3/10 junk.

I'm tapering off anyways though. That's what i would get.

I'm coming up on ~100ug LSD don't mind me
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overgrownpath !3g9OJxiR.6 - Wed, 17 May 2017 09:35:45 EST ID:TTrJ8gbH No.578508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578506
have a sweet trip man
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Octopus !W0LF/neWGs - Wed, 17 May 2017 11:36:04 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.578510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578506

I have 4lbs of FTL arriving tomorrow
Batch I got about a week ago was good, nothing else to compare it to though since it was my first experience with PST and I had 0 opiate tolerance since I havent done any opiates for at least 6 months. I would start nodding before I realized it after some of the washes.
I hope this batch is at lt least as good as the last.
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Eugene Bleshwodge - Wed, 17 May 2017 11:44:14 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578497
Damn,you lucky bastard. None of the stores in my area carry usable seeds if they did, I'd probably be super addicted lol. If you're satisfied with 3/10 seeds, then the usual sources are still good I guess
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Eugene Bleshwodge - Wed, 17 May 2017 11:46:42 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578510
O shit that sounds pretty great actually. There's nothing better than a ground-zero opiate tolerance lol. I havent tried FTL in eons, perhaps it's worth another look... Keep us posted on the 4lbs plz lol
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Jack Pisslenerk - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:18:54 EST ID:lLPY64hC No.578553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a 5lb bag of shitty SN seeds left so I'm going to have to buy some new stock soon, should I buy an 8lb bag of FTL or some more SN. I'll buy whichever one you guys are trying to quality check right now.
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Priscilla Peggleben - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:23:34 EST ID:1/276my3 No.578554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578553
Check FTL-E from the river? I got a 5# SN last week and it was noticeably weaker and washed looking. Then I got another 5# and a 2# from SN on the river this week and it was same dirty, bitter unwashed that you get 8-9 times outta 10 from SN. Both bags.
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Jack Pisslenerk - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:40:29 EST ID:lLPY64hC No.578555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578554
alright, this is what I was planning. i bought a 25 crate of SN some time ago and it was pretty tasteless and about half the potency I consider average, so I'm definitely down to try out FTL again. I'm gonna try both either way, I just don't have the money to buy all the seeds I want AND renew my Prime subscription. never fucking WGN tho.

this England legislation has me pretty fucking worried. I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I feel like hard limits on morphine content translates to "wash everything just to be safe" for most suppliers. not to mention the chance of the DEA/FDA grabbing the opportunity and following suite with similar new rules. gonna try to do an aggressive taper using what seeds I get these next few months. I wish it were easier to get a sub script.
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Octopus !W0LF/neWGs - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:42:30 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.578556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578554
>>578553
I have a bag of FTL-E Arriving today.
Shipping info just updated, it's in my town, so it'll be here for surely. I'm gonna let y'all know later today what I think but keep in mind my opiate tolerance is still very low and I've never bought any other brand. I was impressed personally, but I'm not sure how meaningful my input is without much experience with PST.
Last bag I only need about a coffee cup worth of seeds to get high/sometimes nod.
Kinda of reiterating here from my previous post, sorry, just excited, and letting you know I can give you somewhat of an idea before you order.

Also I keep hearing that FTL is expensive but all other sources seem to be shitty quality right now, so I'm hoping someone can find us a better and less expensive source. Also I think I've overlooked the idea of poppy pods, but they don't seem to be talked about very much in this thread. One would think poppy pods are more efficient and less expensive, but again I'm new to this.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Thu, 18 May 2017 06:34:03 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578556
AFAIK poppy pods are mostly illegal for most everything but "decoration" in the US, and even then they're pretty strict about it. There used to be a lot of sites where you could buy them, but most of them got taken down. Apparently there are still some 'rotating' sites out there which regularly change their URLs, but I don't know any of them. Oh, and they're reportedly extremely expensive for the amount you get - not worth it at all.

God damn it, how have they cracked down on so fucking many different forms of opioids!? It's ridiculous! However, we do have the wonderful world of fent analogs available to us lmao. Has anyone ordered the synthesis of one of them from China? I think I might look into that. I wonder if I could get an acetylated version of whatever compound I go with, for maximum fun lol.
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Eugene Sopperchutch - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:27:31 EST ID:5gdyEOEn No.578586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578560
>how have they cracked down on so fucking many different forms of opioids!?
Because they all eventually end up in the hands of people who can't keep their mouths shut.
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Basil Didgehood - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:02:34 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578586
Bingo.
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Fucking Sugglestick - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:16:22 EST ID:sNX2R4Kh No.578596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578586

cant wait until the inevitable crackdown of PST because of people telling everyone they know and leaving reviews about how psychoactive they are. its unfortunate because its kinda difficult to abuse for some people, there's definitely a cap on the euphoria to which you only just feel sick after going beyond it. especially with the extremely weak bags. the only thing beneficial is that jews evidently want kosher seeds, and since they run everything they might have the legislation blocked
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Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 18 May 2017 15:27:17 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.578600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578596
>the only thing beneficial is that jews evidently want kosher seeds, and since they run everything they might have the legislation blocked

what high quality reasoning, keep up the good work. nb
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Augustus Firryshaw - Thu, 18 May 2017 16:51:59 EST ID:MbIQK7eu No.578611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuck Fedex is slow, those fuckers take twice as long as usps (shipping to Canada) but give you an estimated delivery date of half the time they actually take. I'm telling FTL to never use Fedex again, and I want something out of this fiasco, I need my seeds fuck
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Octopus !W0LF/neWGs - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:31:50 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.578632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578611
Thats horrible, a lot of it probably has to do with customs, only takes 2-3 days here in the US, and I'm literally all the way on the other side from where they ship, just saying i feel for you I cant deal with that long wait shit.
>>578554
>>578555
Made the first cup, used exactly half a gatorade bottle full of seeds, its really fucking bitter and I only shook it for 5 mins this time instead of the usual over 10 cause I heard thats overkill if you wanna do 2nd washes.
Will report back in about an hour.
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Reuben Gangerdet - Thu, 18 May 2017 22:43:17 EST ID:9uzRSC0V No.578633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578600
makes you think, ay mr nodson?
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Morphiate !ewxdWBJtu2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:20:44 EST ID:zaurUfK0 No.578646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just made some tea from these bad boys. Im hoping on Monday I will have all the materials needed to make pure morphine base. I tried and failed once before and ended up with just pod putty. Here's hoping I do better this time with the proper equipment. :p.
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Cedric Chagglewell - Fri, 19 May 2017 09:55:03 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578600
Actually I think he has a decent point
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Hunter S. Nodson - Fri, 19 May 2017 10:06:26 EST ID:a1WEtajM No.578683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578646
Nice, what process are you using? Just a/b? And did you cut those pods yourself? I'm jealous af, thats my next project except with poppy seeds.
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Ebenezer Nombledock - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:38:21 EST ID:IZSFrvIG No.578694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yay, my "overnight" shipment from the river is apparently delayed (with the last update time being several hours from now, however the fuck that works).

This might sound ignorant, and I apologize, but is there any chance they would stop sending them or that the shipment could be delayed for legal reasons? I order a LOT from the river, as in like 3 shipments a week usually. Last thing I need is my PO asking me why I'm getting insane amounts of poppy seeds sent to my house every other day. I get anxious, so again, I apologize if that's retarded.
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Q !57aon8jsJ2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:05:10 EST ID:ztWD2hgP No.578696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578694
nobody gives a fuck if you order shit loads of seeds. I use to order 50 pound sacks regularly when i was addicted to pst and no one cares.
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Jack Sittingfoot - Fri, 19 May 2017 13:34:12 EST ID:7h8SutlY No.578698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been getting back into PST lately since my tolerance is lower now, seems that H brand in AUS is potent enough now. Never used seeds from supermarkets before, used ti buy them in bulk online but I don't have enough money to do that now.

Anyway is it going to make me sick or not work if I do a 2nd/3rd wash on some seeds I washed 10 hours ago?
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:21:43 EST ID:gV5nPaE7 No.578701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578698
Yes, don't do that. They'll have started fermenting already. You need to do all the washes within a single hour, and then drink all of the liquid within 24 hours absolutely max, or more if you refrigerate/freeze it.
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Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:30:14 EST ID:lGqCPKb0 No.578702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578698
I wouldn't advise doing a 2nd wash passed 30 minutes max. shit seems to go bad really quickly. Even after the hour mark the brew usually gets all white with shit floating around it it. Ultimately your call. I'd imagine it would taste so bad at that point you would probably puke.

I make mine a little different than most people. Most shake in a 2L bottle or some shit but I just put it in pitcher and stir the fuck out of it with a big ladle for 10-15 minutes max then fill it up again and repeat.

Just did 2 washes of a lb and drank my first glass. I know I said I was going to try to get off this shit but I finished off my kratom yesterday and while the WDs are only mild just want to be in bliss until I get my Kratom tomorrow. Not really counting this as a slip up or relapse cause I wasn't clean in the first place.
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Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:36:48 EST ID:lGqCPKb0 No.578703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578701
sorry for double post but didn't see this until I posted. this so much though. I said 30minutes max but you are probably good up to the hour mark.
>and then drink all of the liquid within 24 hours absolutely max
and also this. I made the mistake of trying to drink day old tea when I was in a pinch and let's just say I learned my lesson.
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Phoebe Boffingpug - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:40:38 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578698
Interesting, must have been a seasonal variation thing rather than The Man ruining everything.
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Archie Hugglegold - Fri, 19 May 2017 16:52:29 EST ID:3/iIg/Aq No.578710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty new to using PST and I vomit basically every time I try to drink it.
Should I be taking dramamine or something? How do I keep it down?
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Morphiate !ewxdWBJtu2 - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:00:42 EST ID:zaurUfK0 No.578711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578683
Bought the pods online. I plan on doing a simple extract using a guide I found online.

Basics of it were to grind the pods into powder, mix with water and cook at 70C for a few hours while stirring. Filter out all of the pod material (I have a vacuum filtration system that works great). Simmer down the liquid until theres only a few hundred ml's left. Add KOH until the PH reaches 9.1 at which point the morphine base falls out. Let the morphine settle and decant the excess liquid.

Should be interesting.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:10:07 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578710
Dramamine is God-tier with PST.
nb
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Albert Candletirk - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:28:29 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578710
When I was at the drinking 2-4litres of fluid stage (I swear second washes aren't even worth it) the method was to take 2 metoclopramide if I had it or failing that 50-100mg of doxylamine, I'm sure DPH/DMH would work too, down the PST 30-45 minutes after that and then when my stomach started to churn smoke a cone (that's weed for those playing at home) and wait a couple of minutes before trying to drink more.
When doing multiple washes (which as I said, probably isn't worth it) it would sometimes take an hour or a bit over just to drink it all. It still works if you don't scull it.
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Albert Candletirk - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:28:56 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578720
Hyoscine also works
nb
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Panda5 !EshdTRey7E - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:04:18 EST ID:Rifi3l3o No.578740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This 8-lb bag of "Food" I which was sent down the river to me from "England" last week is insanely delicious! I'm in the process of drinking pic related right now.

I'm not sure what happened last night but I woke up in a sea of clothes on the floor and I apparently spilled milk all over the kitchen. I got impatient b/c I wasn't feeling anything from my dose nearly two hours in, so I drank another 2/3rd-dose-worth - in retrospect this was a poor decision.

WISDOM: Never re-dose within 3 hours of your normal dose. ®©®
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George Fengerstock - Sat, 20 May 2017 21:13:56 EST ID:J3AZzr55 No.578750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578740
Does that say Regular fucking Car Reviews?
Go back to >>>/mlp/
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Jack Blackshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 23:40:38 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578740
You probably don't need that much water in there. If the water layer above the seed layer is about half that size you're probably good. To each their own, but I think minimum volume is a winner.
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Charles Hiffingtetch - Sun, 21 May 2017 01:55:31 EST ID:hvMhQn8y No.578765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578740

Got a 4lb bag, similar thing happened to me the night before last night. Drank like 3 cups of tea in around 2 hours, then ended up being too high and didn't sleep. so I ended up feeling like total shit the next day at work. After I threw up and drank some water I felt fucking awesome and had little regrets cause I got to just nod out in the car for most of the day.

Basically FTL is good stuff, got a bit impatient and drank too much. Today I had a much better experience though.

So now I 2 cups is more than enough to make me nod and to start with only one cup and give it at least an hour before I shake down more.

Today however, I drank just the right amount, I made a cup to take with me to work, and mixed it with gatorade and a energy drink throughout the day. I really diluted it from the start and kept diluting it. Was on the edge of nodding most of the day, but alert and awake enough to work efficiently.
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David Menningforth - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:41:40 EST ID:iOdFuKPP No.578829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A question for you more regular users. Do you guys ever experience bad cases of bubble guts? The last couple times I have dosed, while getting me really high, my stomach gets moderately to severely upset and starts growling and bubbling constantly. Any way to help this?
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Priscilla Brandleworth - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:44:42 EST ID:T7flwXWl No.578830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578829
Stomach or guts?
Minimum volume helps assuming it's your stomach that's the issue, as does shaking your seeds for as short a time as possible to avoid oils leaking out. If it's nausea then as I said early 1st gen antihistamines especially doxylamine are good (hyoscine too), as is weed.
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Archie Fodgewell - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:53:00 EST ID:Jaqu2t38 No.578845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
FINALLY getting off this stuff. It was fun as fuck at first, but after a 16 months it's time to quit.
Special thanks to people who mentioned loratadine. My last dose was over 3 days ago, normally I'd be in hell right now. Went through 200 pills of loratadine, who knows what this is doing to my body, but I need to quit opiates, or at the very least greatly lower my dosage. Sleeping 12 hours per day and having no motivation just isn't working for me.
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Archie Fodgewell - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:54:37 EST ID:Jaqu2t38 No.578846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578845
fuck I meant loperamide, man I'm an idiot with drug names.
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Archie Fodgewell - Mon, 22 May 2017 05:00:58 EST ID:Jaqu2t38 No.578848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578711
I remember doing pH titrations in chemistry class. I suppose you could get a pH meter and slowly add base until it reads what you want. There might be some color indicators what would work in that pH range.
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Esther Fondlestone - Mon, 22 May 2017 21:12:29 EST ID:TJdM08OA No.578899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578845

>quitting pst

I feel your pain bro, what a shitshow it was i.m.e. Could t back it the first attempt as the physical anxiety lasted so long, second attempt tapered with heroin then went cold turkey and it was still shit. I just did a small amount today so I could get up early for work (opis help with that for me) and it made me feel awful so I think my body knows it shouldn't put up with that crap anymore.

So many alkaloids and random peripherally active chemicals on those seeds man, I think they messed with my heart a bit while I was on them. I was very lucky to be the type to find weed helpful for wd.
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Jarvis Monderbanks - Tue, 23 May 2017 06:04:37 EST ID:IZSFrvIG No.578920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I absolutely have to get off this shit, for a variety of reasons. I'm sick of being addicted for one, and I'm also on probation and I'm a due for piss test pretty soon, I'd guess at my next meeting in about 3 weeks .I have about 25 2mg klonopin, so I should be ok I think. Here's the problem, though: I have to go to court-mandated classes every Wednesday. If I were to quit totally, then dose a little before my meeting to get straight, then go back to being completely clean again until the next meeting, would I be able to make it, or does dosing even once with a small amount completely reset everything back to as if I had never quit?

Apologies if this wasn't written well, I'm pretty tired here. But yea, that's my situation. Does a small dose once a week fuck everything up?

Thanks for any info, and if I need to be more clear, just let me know.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Tue, 23 May 2017 08:25:21 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578920
You should be fine, but if you can manage to get ahold of a much shorter acting drug, I think that would be much much better for you, due to PST's absolutely ridiculous half-life. If you do have to use PST, though, make sure that you use the absolute lowest possible dose to get you well (it should be about half or 1/3 that of the normal dose to get you well, since you'll be combining it with clonazepam), or even just barely below well. Additionally, you could do a two-week quick taper to ensure that you still have a week to get it out of your system. I think you might have better luck with that. What's your current dose? Regardless of that, reduce it by 1/10th of the original every day for 8-9 days, and then with the remaining 5 or so days, decrease THAT amount by 1/5th each day (oh, and you can supplement with the Klonopin throughout this entire thing), and then you're good. I genuinely feel as though you'll have a much higher chance of being able to get off of it than if you were to just quit cold turkey (but it does put you at risk if they decide to test you earlier). It's your choice, though. You know your situation better than I do. But yeah, I wish you all the best, and hope that you're able to succeed!! Good luck! <3
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 23 May 2017 09:28:58 EST ID:GyDMxm8z No.578925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578922
Mostly this.

I'd say 1x per week isn't that big of a deal, if that's actually how often he will be dosing. I agree that a 8-14 day taper pretty much feels the same whether you pick 7 or 14. I do feel that 10-14 days actually gives you a chance to wean off and slowly get it out of your system.

Let's not forget. You NEED kratom and you need to get it fast. They can't reasonably test for it and it will help keep you well, unlike every non-opi that just helps. It's a shame you can't smoke or vape cannabis. That shit helps with RLS/clearing your mind/vascodialator/sleep aid for some/frankly fries your brain so you're only halfway aware of what's going on with your body and the world around you.

Do you have a script for the benzos?
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Betsy Fedgeworth - Tue, 23 May 2017 11:54:45 EST ID:jgzbFNoW No.578931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578922
Long ass half life indeed... I haven't dosed in like 3 or 4 weeks (after consuming a 2lb bag at least every 2 weeks for like a year) and my body/mind is only now returning to normal.

To those trying to quit, now's the best time to do so lol. The fire days seem behind us, sad as it is to admit. Kratom helps, especially after the actual withdrawal symptoms end. Tis a massive challenge to quit, depending on how addicted your are to start out with, but like I said now seems like the best time to do so.

May Odin be on your side, fellow tea heads.
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Sidney Gaffingfone - Tue, 23 May 2017 14:59:39 EST ID:kBdCbCB7 No.578942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I took like 3oz to stop a heroin withdrawal, and I got higher than I should have, so I dosed too high, but here I am 24 hours later and there's no w/d symptoms.
Do you think it's over or am I just still feeling the PST effects.

Imagine withdrawal as this curve going below the x axis. Is it possible to dose in such a way that exactly negates that curve and balances out at zero -> tada withdrawals gone?
I don't know how the body repairs its neurotransmitters.
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WIAKR+Pa !l1uVST4rME!!HOWLHoRl - Tue, 23 May 2017 15:03:22 EST ID:aWZljk6O No.578943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578942
I've been high for >48 hours, so no, you're not out of the woods yet, unfortunately.
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Dr. Crane !UnPZ9ycFy2 - Tue, 23 May 2017 15:49:07 EST ID:lGqCPKb0 No.578946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>578925
>You NEED kratom and you need to get it fast
just want to emphasize this. I have been binging on the stuff and while I'm not getting high off it in the slightest and still feel like shit it does wonders especially for the cravings. without it I would be pic related right now. going to probably try an extract using the Hunter's guide(if you're reading this major props for that thread).

btw how is the taper going Mario? hope all is well and with the rest of /opi/ too whatever you guys may be going through currently.
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George Gebberstidge - Tue, 23 May 2017 22:02:16 EST ID:UvWm596q No.578956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So the future looks grim, eh? I've been drinking PST for more than a year now, mostly staying with SN but I switched over to WGN for a brief period of time.

Is the future really as pale as it's being painted here? Are there any decent U.S. suppliers? I'm honestly pretty scared guys, I don't use a lot of seeds (~ 89 - 95 grams of the weakest SN batches are enough for me to get high, measured out on a scale) but I'm still pretty heavily dependent on them. Are all the major vendors going to be washed in 3 - 4 months? Or am I freaking out over nothing?

I suppose I could always go back to using kratom and kava kava, but even kratom's future seems pretty uncerfain these days.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Tue, 23 May 2017 22:38:23 EST ID:SrJE9oy1 No.578961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>578946
Really appreciate that man hope it works out for you, I'll have some insane updates on that thread soon. Just bought a lot of lab equipment (1 and 5 micron filters, glassware, citric acid, tons of other helpful things).


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