/opi/ Opiate Discussion
So I crush about 10 nurofen and 4 cocodamols. First time I did it, I was careful. Dissolved them in cold water in a jug and let it stand. Poured them into a bottle and kept it in the freezer. Then filtered through a kitchen towel and it was perfect. Clear but slightly cloud, only mildly bitter and gave me a good buzz and little nausea. Today I did the same thing but am getting opposite results. It's extremely cloudy and tastes very strongly of ibuprofen. I'm not risking drinking it. Any ideas where I'm going wrong? I even repeated the process and triple filtered. How much water should I use? I used about 300-400ml. Was this enough? Should I use little or more? Any help or advice much appreciated.
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>>602035I wanted to be snarky but im high and I fucked up.Use coffee filters and wet them b4 pouring your gunky mess.
>>602036That's what I did and here it is.
>>602037I mean depending on the amount of APAP used might be risky but it doesnt look too bad.If the total amount was 5000 or lower Id say youre good to go
>>602038Just sip slowly tho
>>602038It would've been about 2-3g. I've given up on it and put it in the fridge. See if it will turn out better tomorrow. Gonna have kratom tea instead tonight.
>>602040 OMG that's WAAAAAY too much water man, what the fuck?I'm pretty sure it's like 10mg/ml solubility for APAP. What is that, a fucking liter of water???
>>602041You legit should only use enough water to cover the crushed pills...what a massive fuck up OP, lol.
>>602041 I used a third of that amount to mix with pills. I only added more because I thought it was too cloudy and it was better to be safe.
>>602045Yeah no, adding water does the opposite. Pretty much all the APAP got through.
>>602046 So I should add a lot less water next time? Thanks. These are really old pills anyway so I don't mind experimenting with them. I'll add only 100ml or less next time.
>>602034>I used about 300-400mljolly african-american, what are you DOINGI thought no one could be dumb enough to fuck up a CWE I really did. You will be able to dissolve every single bit of codeine with only 50ml of cold water. Where did you even get the idea to use this much water?
>I used about 300-400ml
>>602049 Why is pretty much everyone in this thread being an asshole? Yeah, made a mistake. Big fucking deal. We all do. Now I know what to do next time. Maybe you should try and chill the fuck out.
>>602047I used to use 50-100ml (200 at the outside for formulas with heaps of gluggy binders) for about 60-80 pills. If it was just the APAP I'd say take it anyway, but that's a lot of ibuprofen. If you really wanted you could evaporation off the water and start again.
>>602050Meh /opi/ is essentially a ragtag of berating monkeys at this point
>>602055 >>602054I'll get my technique right. Just takes some practice. I read many tutorials and they differed in saying how much water to use. Some said to use a lot to not risk getting APAP in the water. I'll try with less water and see if it comes out clear. Thanks.
>>602057No worries. Keep in mind some brands/formulations will never come out clear even with minimum water due to soluble dies etc. How much goop is in your filter is a good indication. There are some bad guides for sure, more water will always mean more APAP. Crush or grind the pills beforehand too to speed things up.
>>602059 There was a lot of APAP in the filter. About the equivalent of the amount of pills used.
OPi here trying again. I've only used a very small amount of cold water this time. Gonna filter in a bit and evaporate. Hope it turns out OK this time. I'll experiment until I get it right.
I actually did it! I only used about 10 pills because I wanted to experiment and make sure I did it right. Thanks for all your help, I was being a dumb ass and using too much water. Next time I'll know what to do. The water is clear as crystal. Will it be alright to leave it in the fridge and drink it tomorrow?
>>602340Yeah the extract will be just fine stored in fridge
I'm feeling good. No nausea. I did the extraction with nurofen and it was slightly cloudy. But I double filtered it and that helped. I reckon ibuprofen has binders that make the water cloudy.
>>602359You seem to have it sussed. It's very likely it does have soluble binders fillers or dyes. An advantage to leaving it in the fridge overnight is that the solubility of APAP and ibuprofen are even lower at lower temperatures so you will be able to.see if anything sinks to the bottom of the glass. I got away with doing this with huge amounts of paracetamol (~40g total as I think I mentioned) daily for months. I half assed it using room temperature water and a single filtration through a piece of an old T-shirt (which ironically as I discovered actually has a finer pore size than a coffee filter) or whatever piece of cloth was handy because I was a desperate addict. My liver enzymes were fine when I had them tested after months of this on the daily. IIRC ibuprofen is even less soluble than APAP.Ah, such a shame we missed the days of Nurofen plus that had differently coloured halves that could be easily split, one half codeine and fillers the other ibuprofen. Shit, I'm annoyed i just missed the days when codeine was sold in Woolworths.
>>602340That looks a HELL of a lot better.And I've found out you really don't need the water to be completely clear, if you're doing under 20 or so pills.this is what I do:>crush pills into powder>pour in just enough water to cover the pills>mix and throw it in the freezer until you start seeing a thin ice starting to form around the top>cut out a square piece off the back of an old dress shirt. (or just something with a decently thick thread.>pour the mix into the cloth over another cup and wring it all out.>repeat the CWE with left over gunk.and that's it. it will be cloudy but you'll see that you're left with a lot of gunk (the APAP, or Ibuprofen in your case), so you got really most of it.No need to go overkill unless you're dealing with over 20,000mg of APAP or Advil
>crush pills into powder>pour in just enough water to cover the pills>mix and throw it in the freezer until you start seeing a thin ice starting to form around the top>cut out a square piece off the back of an old dress shirt. (or just something with a decently thick thread.>pour the mix into the cloth over another cup and wring it all out.>repeat the CWE with left over gunk.
So I tried evaporating and it has finally dried out. It left behind a brown, slightly sticky residue. Is this the codeine?
>>603043Why all that overthinking mate, cwe and drink that shit, you should have very small amounts of liquid unless you try to cwe doses like 600 mg or moreI don't think codeine is brown, but it should work and not kill you, unless you try shooting it up
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