>>90609
are you aware of the loop or do you catch yourself in it? I know w dph sometimes it takes a few runthroughs before you realize you are in a loop, then you forget and hopefully the loop doesnt persist. I understand DPH more than I understand this shit. It is the same thing every time but I have no idea how to describe what is happening other than seemingly vulgar and/or improper terms or explanations. Everything is still and moving at the same time, the walls fade to reveal another world behind the surface, but inside them, as if they are made of this madness. The air seems thick with intimidation. Not intimidation by the chemical but I am intimidating myself, as if I was re-experiencing second hand as I would tell it to myself, distraught with bewilderment and terror.

I suppose this is a rather strong substance to use as my first psy. It forces you into submission. Fighting back only triggers more punishment, with interest for however long you held it off. Its almost like I am being compressed into my inner self by sand from every direction. It rules and dominates my every breath, twitch and thought.

>>90614

>are you aware of the loop or do you catch yourself in it?

Can be both. I've been in a thought loop where I thought "I'm in a thought loop I have to get out of this it's only the LSD I'll be fine by tomorrow I'm in a thought loop oh shit this is still going it's only the LSD I'll be fine by tomorrow".
Psychedelics in the stricter sense come with a perfectly intact awareness that you're tripping, at least in the usual dose range.

Generally, you can't really compare the mindset on high doses of cannabinoids to genuine psychedelics.
You're much more prone to panic, feel uncomfortable or get paranoid on a psychedelic dose of cannabinoids.
That's also possible on psychedelics, but it's also possible to reach very intense psychedelic states while experiencing MDMA-like euphoria.
Depending on the substance, a lot of the physical discomfort may also be absent.
High doses of weed or spice don't give an accurate impression of what tripping is like, even if some effects are similar.
On cannabinoids, being scared when experiencing extremely strong effects is the norm.
On psychedelics, it's the exception.

>>90596
I get the same thing on very high doses of JWH-122. I'm certain it's a hallucination.

>>90593

>believe someone is sitting on my bedside even though nobody is there. Stricken with fear when I realize I am alone

similar for me. does anyone know what is within the Northern Lights Red Passion fruit blend. Was trapped with the belief my ceiling fan was on when I dont even have a ceiling fan. I believe i had misinterpreted the "flanging" as well and got convinced that a fan existed. When i went to turn it off and noticed there was no switch it really frustrated me because it meant i couldn't remove the sensation of a ceiling fan being on when i desperately wanted to

The one time I tried White Rabbit I felt NOTHING actually. It just really pissed me off because I wasted money on it.

I prefer to do my toothpaste with Jenk. I had some Dirty Italian Butthash with some Rembrandt Ultra White toothpaste, I was so fuckin' fucked. I was high for hours and all I remember was it was the time of my fuckin' life. Who knew such powerful narcotics were readily available like this? OP, check out /jenk/, get you a good mix and do it to it. Good luck bro.

Meh. I feel that bananadine produces a better high. Peelin' errday son, but this is okay too. I do it every once in a while.

>>90710
How long until effect?

>>90715

I actually came very close to getting a DWI while I was trippin' on toothpaste. I don't know how I got out of that one, mostly because I can't remember shit from that night. I'm betting the government is going to make them change the ingredients sooner or later. This shit is just too good. I mean you can get 20+ good trips for fuckin 6 bucks.

>>90685
Hey since you seem to be knowledgeable, what are some blends that have the safe synths in them? Some pretty widespread ones. I live in AZ.

>>90693

I don't know the laws in Arizona but I think most of the ones that are "legal" should be the UR series and should be safe.

Some notable good and safe ones:

Space Cadet
777 Xtreme
Zombie Matter
Gorilla Dro

>>90693
i also live in AZ. AVONDALE FTW... anywho i havent been to traders smoke shop but they are always awesome and make their own house home made blend.

>>90718
*havent been to in a while. ooooops typing error

Ill refer you to a cracked article written by a guy to have smoked and tripped on zombie matter. This guy doesnt sound like he had fun but you may enjoy it.

http://www.cracked.com/blog/6-terrifying-reasons-you-shouldnt-smoke-synthetic-weed/

you can easily over come the sedation/hypnotic effects of melatonin and 5-htp. to get it to work you should try it on an empty stomach, wait 15-20 minutes then eat a snack.

this will trick your body into emptying your stomach into your intestines so you get it all absorbed all at once.

now do what youre supposed to do on. lie down and sleep. if youre looking for the calming effects then do that. relax.

try to avoid stimulants through out the day as well as they can easily over power melatonin

>>90702
less is always more with melatonin and it really dosent MAKE you tired as much as... if ur in a dark room or a room w/o blue spectrum light it will reduce ur sleep latency...

thank you kindly sirs!

It's bullshit. Tell whoever told you that to go fuck themselves.

>>90705
http://www.fox59.com/news/wxin-spice-death-080410,0,1021879.story

>>90706
A buddy of mine had a heart attack from smoking spice. He didn't die but he's lucky he didn't

>>90705

just smoked some blue kush blueberry incense...and i'm tripping balls.

It was a very smooth burn... nothing like weed...through a bowl.

from a high 1-10? I'm at a 6-7 right now. Feel's like a sativa. shit is quick and slow at the same time.


not thinking straight.

why am i posting on this again/

idk.

YOLO

>>90641
http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/archive/index.php/t-125650.html
"Fatal-Plus"- more fun then a bucket of dead kittens!

>>90641

Not sure I'd really enjoy playing with a drug called "Fatal-Plus", even if I did know exactly what was in it, and how to dose

>>90646
i fucking would enjoy the hell out of it. c'mon the main active (the only thing with a dose worth a damn) THAT WOULD BE FUN TO TRY ONCE.
http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=68249

Yo dude I got two bottles of the same shit. It tastes FOUL. but all these ingredients constitute a normal pentobarbital sodium solution, so it's ALL pento. try a dose of 50-100mg pento at first to test the waters. I've taken oral doses upwards of 400mg and I couldn't walk... I overdid an IV amount too. Not even sure how much I used because I was SO fucked up on that shit already. PLEASE be careful. You have THOUSANDS of potent doses in your hands. Be careful mentioning it around people. No one will buy this shit off me. No one's heard of most barbs anymore, and wouldn't take fucking "Fatal-Plus" even if they knew what it was

>>90641
Fatal-Plus, that sounds like a fantastic recreational drug.


Sarcasm aside, heed the last poster's warning. That is a lot of phenobar you have there. You could very easily overdo it. Phenobarbital is decent I guess. I don't really care for it. My dog has seizures so she gets huge bottles of it every month. That actually give her about 3x the amount she actually takes per month. I could easily nick several good doses but I don't because I never found barbs to be all that, as they say. Anyway, be careful and be safe OP. Good in you for trying to do a bit of research beforehand. Most people don't do that these days and take drugs having no idea what they are doing. It gives us psyconauts a bad name.

Get clean and stay clean, stop fucking your life up.

-psych RN who lost someone to drugs.

Your body will only absorb about 300mg of gabapentin every 45 min to an hour or so. So take 1 every 45 min with a snack in between doses to increase bio availability. Gabapentin is a excellent potentiator for everything pretty much.

i was on 3600mg a day for a bit. quit 6 days ago or so, feel almost normal now. it loses any recreational value after a week or so, tolerance builds to ungodly levels very quickly.

>>90372
Then why the fuck are you on a site that talks about drugs?

>>90701

On the one hand, I was going to reply with, "He's here to save us, from ourselves. I for one welcome our new (Adjective-noun) Overlords."

But then I realized he has a point. Drugs are fun, and responsible use is great.

But what OP described is someone fucking up. Big time.

>>90660
well his spelling is and also his naming of receptor sites... but the theory is close enough for laypeople.

>>90621
You can do horrible damage to other people because of DXMs painkilling properties. I once dropped a 40 pound subwoofer on my foot on 300mg dxm. Didn't feel it at the time, I just knew that my foot felt weird. The next morning it was swolen and it was the worst pain I had ever felt. I have boxed with friends on dxm, with gloves, and we usually have to agree to stop after a few minutes because we dont know what damage we could be doing. The lack of pain plus the disconnection from rational thought and empathy could do you a lot of good in a fight.

>>90661

still no, caffeine is a competitive against adenosine agonist. The chemicals and mode of action are incorrect. Caffeine disables an inhibitory system, its like cutting the breaks on a car. Not dumping nitrous in the motor, like >>90619 suggests. This is what makes caffeine so much different from amphetamine drugs.

>>90591

For mentally powerful look up modafinil... I gotta get me some of that.

anabolic steroids

>>90533
bupropion is my favorite because high oral doses is an all day psychotic trip and normal bupropion XR doses are just fgm when i feel down. helps me focus and keeps me level. but i am not on anything atm anymore.

I was given anti-depressants since I was quite young. They never worked. I was always so afraid of life, but so afraid of death as well. Being raised christian made me fear the afterlife.

Psychedelics expanded my mind and allowed me to realize that believing in an afterlife is completely nonsensical. Surprisingly enough, this revelation has allowed me to now enjoy and be in control of my own destiny.

I will still off myself, but not for a while. I have a lot of living to do, and so many drugs to try.

Also those things made my dick limp.

i was on the edge and zoloft made me jump

>>90583
Ah, bipolar. That's a whole other world of negative reactions and shitty meds.
>>90584
Huh. I looked into that, and apparently there's actually some research on the use of dextromethorphan as a fast-acting antidepressant. I'll have to give that a try sometime. Thanks!
>>90600
Sounds like a good start towards a positive end.

Bump for interest.

>>90451
Haven't tried 5, but 6 is my absolute favorite RC.
The problem is that a lot of the 6-APB vendors out there push their leftover crapcathinones as 6-APB, so it has gotten an undersevedly bad reputation.

>>90451
5 and 6 apb are winners, I actually prefer them to MDMA since they have that psychedelic "edge" to them. The problem is people pass of a lot of garbage as 5-apb, 6-apb, or just "benzo fury"

>>90474
As MDA analogs they are neurotoxic as shit. Just be careful out there kids.

>>90495
Most likely. Probably cardiotoxic, too. If it's impure, it may contain organotin compounds as well unless somebody came up with a better synthesis route in the meantime.

In general, the most important factors with MDxx and related compounds is how frequently you roll and if you avoid excessive doses.
Using APBs every day would most likely cause lasting damage pretty soon, as well as taking really huge amounts at once.
Of course, you can't just reliably extrapolate from rat tests with MDMA, so I'm more careful with this stuff.
I've taken 3 month+ breaks with 6-APB (also not using any MDxx in that time frame) and haven't used more than 150mg at once so far just to make sure. In the long term, I'm not going to use this stuff more than once or twice a year. I don't think I'd go over 200mg at once.
That's pretty restrictive for something that I enjoy THAT much, but it's not a problem for me to stick to this. I don't get cravings from this, I actually have little to no desire to take *anything* for quite some time after rolling.

Didnt want to make another thread so posting here.

Can 6-apb be bought in headshops? AZ local here.

>>90380
What are some of the general noticeable effects? Do you feel clearer or is it mostly only noticeable through hindsight, looking back and remembering stuff you otherwise wouldn't have?

bump for interest

I would generally suggest buying bulk powders instead of premixed supplements. The latter usually puts small amounts of a lot of things to bulk up the ingredients list, but is mostly effective through one or two things. That and the fact that you'll pay more per dose makes it a mediocre deal at best.

>>90561
Yeah, those things are crazily overpriced. I'm just hoping to buy a cheap kilo of piracetam and see how that goes.

>>90689
Take some fish oil with it too, if it's an option. The two work very well together.

I've been taking Ginko and Brahmi supplements along with a fish-oil daily every morning for a while now, their effectiveness is most evident on days I don't take them. I find myself much more forgetful and frequently lost for words than days I take them.

Thinking of adding aniracetam and oxiracetam to my stack in the coming months.