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Kratom help and kava questions by Betsy Nenningbanks - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 22:09:16 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.130543 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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First off what's the fuss.I bought a big small pack a few months ago from the Netherlands and I either;Felt extreme nausea,had a mild effect like a sort of tramadol high where I was just wanting to talk,ate half a packet of one strain and it made me think is this heroin but then I collapsed on the couch for 5 hours feeling as if I was going to be sick.
7/10 times it barely done anything and most of the time I felt extreme nausea .

I suspect the best one I trie was white bono or somthing.

>question
What's the best strain for me to try for a chilled mellor high and what dose ?
I'm going get capsules next time.

I want to get my mother some for her pain and sleep disorder.shes been eating soldapol what's the 30/500 codein paracetamol tablets for ears.Dr won't give her the pure minis and she thinks gabapenton what she is already prescribed to be rather shot.Doesnt feel that strong to her and it makes her wake up all groggy and shit.

>kava kavao finally want to give this a try always have

There are a few sources out there and it does seem exspensive.Ive read a bit about it but would like to hear experiences from my favourite site.
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Frederick Sommlebanks - Fri, 04 May 2018 21:30:21 EST ID:PZlZuUXF No.131282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131271
>testosterone

why would someone go on the internet and tell lies?
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Priscilla Haffinghat - Sat, 05 May 2018 15:54:08 EST ID:m+TWfjtw No.131284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131282
yeah, cause opioids and opiod related stuff doesn't lower testosterone ok

I swear kratomfags are worse than cannabitches
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Simon Chiddleworth - Sun, 06 May 2018 05:59:02 EST ID:K6qEQSRV No.131286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131284
You seem like an angry guy. Take your meds. And come back when you have proof that a much weaker but similar version of an opioid has just as significant of an impact on test. I shoot massive loads, I've gained 30lb in muscle mass and have a 10x stronger libido since switching from opiates to kratom so i guess it's just my experience vs your guess.

Keep up the good fight against kratom though. Don't let my experience and a total lack of scientific proof stop you.
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David Dizzlelock - Mon, 14 May 2018 19:59:32 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.131302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131286
Having higher T after switching from opioids to kratom only suggests that it has a lesser effect on testosterone than whatever opioids you were taking before. It doesn't mean that going from sober to taking kratom won't have a negative impact on testosterone levels.
There isn't a lot of evidence for kratom specifically but almost all mu agonists seem to have this effect, even bupe despite what you may be told.
That's not to say that the effect will necessarily be noticeable, especially if you're young and not on a huge dose.
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Shitting Crigglelock - Sat, 19 May 2018 19:50:22 EST ID:1Hr6wpVs No.131312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
daily/heavy kratom use most definitely lower testosterone. I'm trans and I don't even have to take my testosterone blocking medications when i take this shit


Neurogenerating neuroprotective drugs. by Simon Greenfield - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:27:14 EST ID:cMql78Hx No.130612 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are the best neurogenerative and neuroprotective ((legal)) drugs?
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Doris Fanford - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:04:02 EST ID:FBK+VtEx No.131176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130681
>rat studies
>1991
>all human knowledge is summed up by one asshole's study

No, you kill yourself.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1471-4159.2003.02327.x

http://www.pnas.org/content/95/14/8268.short

https://nyaspubs.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1749-6632.2000.tb06193.x

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2990.2011.01248.x
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Matilda Claybanks - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 20:47:00 EST ID:pXrZlUbu No.131177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130612
math
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Cornelius Dartlock - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:06:45 EST ID:03H0nJkB No.131250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131177
>math
kys
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1661235
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Cornelius Dartlock - Fri, 27 Apr 2018 09:07:39 EST ID:03H0nJkB No.131251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130681
fun tip:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1666926
change the last number of the above link and you'll get a different weed article every time!
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Jack Gagglestone - Fri, 18 May 2018 03:17:38 EST ID:2q+61SMS No.131305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3641824/
This one says you can use Aspirin and Fish Oil.


Wondering where to get pentobarbital by Shit Brangerfuck - Sun, 13 May 2018 13:16:10 EST ID:op0CgGVq No.131299 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How difficult is it to order it from a European source to the United States. I need it to commit suicide, that or jumping off the Golden Gate Bridge.
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Thread was locked by: Celt
Reason: Please seek immediate help


Air Duster by Caroline Hacklestuck - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:14:56 EST ID:yixJnF5+ No.131213 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Would it be okay if I huffed some air duster just once? Will it cause brain damage or stop my heart or something or will I be fine?
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 07 May 2018 04:12:32 EST ID:hoSEbtJL No.131290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131289
Dangerous Dave! Haven't seen you 'round these parts in a while.
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Fuck Shakelock - Mon, 07 May 2018 07:49:00 EST ID:abQD2WG9 No.131292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131289
>the face of a completely un-damaged brain
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Hugh Dandledock - Wed, 09 May 2018 20:39:59 EST ID:Pf4z4Zmb No.131293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love that this meeting of the minds has this board standstilled for 2 whole days. Also, CFT WTF is in your "hat"? Starbro out JK 100% lean mean green machine Bush was not Hitler the west tower never existed
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sat, 12 May 2018 22:52:49 EST ID:hoSEbtJL No.131296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131293
That's Dangerous Dave with his hat. I'm just a fan.
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Wed, 16 May 2018 02:19:01 EST ID:j4P0ufly No.131303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131289
Welcome back, you beautiful bastard. I saved your buttery Bible video years ago because it is the single greatest recorded piece of human culture


BWO by Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Wed, 07 Sep 2016 16:41:53 EST ID:UgPYdDab No.127759 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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HA HA! This one's mine, though CFT probably deserves it.
On 50mg Memantine as a mood-enhancer since I don't have any DCK
Started huffing some Butane just now. Might move on to some starter fluid in a bit.
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Fuck Soggleford - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 23:42:21 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.131225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131212
/Opi/
It's much stronger by weight. I'm sure you can find the equivalency somewhere.
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Shaman - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 17:30:36 EST ID:tHAkCS2r No.131232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>127759
Bumping on some benfotiamine. With no tolerance it gives me a sort of a rush that lasts for about half an hour and some very mild euphoria
(and a pleasurable feeling in my stomach area) that lasts longer. It's also supposed to have some nootropic effects. The short "high" is very focused; I was hangover and had various mild pains, now I feel better and the pains are mostly gone, interestingly.
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Eliza Cissleput - Sun, 29 Apr 2018 23:54:38 EST ID:I05363gQ No.131259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131197
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Sophie Turveyman - Sun, 06 May 2018 01:16:44 EST ID:YHbtlPrF No.131285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>127759
Shit, and i thought the amount of blunts ive been smoking lately was unhealthy. This jolly african-american has a fucking death wish.
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Reuben Winkinnore - Sun, 06 May 2018 08:41:30 EST ID:abQD2WG9 No.131287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131285
welcome to the /other/ side my dangle


Tianeptine Thread by Frederick Mattingmadging - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 09:35:19 EST ID:Xes7j+3E No.131160 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just ordered some of this along with my usual nootropics after reading up on it and it sounds very interesting. Anti-depressant that doesn't effect serotonin or dopamine but has an opiate effect at higher doses? I've read some horror stories about opiate addicts eating insane amounts and getting addicted to it, but from what I've read it takes a daily amount in the grams for months.

Anyone on here have any experience with this novel little chemical?
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Fucking Druffingford - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 13:45:33 EST ID:zdc1kPbm No.131238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131237
Lower doses are more like tramadol but the 200mg dose I took was more similar to hydros. Heavy sedation and waves of euphoria. I thought that 100mgs was a solid dose, but it seems to really get /opi/ the higher you go. I'm not even sure if 300 would have the same effects as 200. It seems a little like DXM as far as having plateaus that are different from each other.
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Hugh Clucklebanks - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 17:55:27 EST ID:vIhkPLut No.131240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131235
> I took 200 mgs of the sulphate today expecting a mild hydrocodone high and fuck me if I wasn't nodding off in bed.

Wow, that's pretty extreme from my experience. I definitely start getting /opi/ effects near there but normally have to go past 300mg to start getting anything like nodding. I'm also mostly opiate naive (~4 times a year I take PST), I'm wondering if it has to do with weight maybe? I'm almost 240lbs and pretty fit (Which I've heard can lower the effects of intoxication, but never did verify).

Everyone should definitely start out slow and see what works for them regardless.

>>131182
> After 300mgs of sulfate dosed 3 hours apart in 3 doses last night, I had ... considerable mood lift!

Glad that it worked out for you, just do be super careful if you do start taking it regularly. It seems to have the same addiction potential as any other /opi/.

>>131238

> It seems a little like DXM as far as having plateaus that are different from each other.
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Edward Mockleset - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 21:20:31 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131238
Ok so I think I may try it as I want to experience the sort of tramadol/benzo type talkativeness feeling.

Does the low dose what people use for depression give you this ?

Has any one taken the low dose regularly for days on end and had good results ?
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Albert Senkintit - Fri, 04 May 2018 06:03:14 EST ID:Bhcn8fBN No.131279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just ordered some sulphate, but apparently it's a lot less recreational than sodium? What are your experiences?
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Roy Fin - Fri, 04 May 2018 16:41:14 EST ID:JGGXOgta No.131281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ok I got curious and got some sulphate. First day tried 50mg then redosed 50 just to test the waters. Felt a little more relaxed but that’s it. Three days later I tried 150mg and felt very good. Waited one day then upped it to 200mg. Wasn’t feeling anything after 45 minutes so I did another 100 and that put me in the right spot. This was nodding territory for me.

I only take kratom 3-4 times a week at moderate doses and I think there’s a bit of a cross tolerance. Seems like tianeptine tolerance still sky rockets quick. Once a week use sounds like a safe place to be. Also I see conflicting things about kratom and tianeptine either cancelling each other out or synergizing well. It seems like the former ime. Anyway interesting stuff, sort of curious about sodium, but just sounds like more addiction potential


esomeprazole- psychological side effects by Ernest Pudgehall - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:29:19 EST ID:5EtgigPP No.131198 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This might be of interest to some people here. I've been taking Nexium (esomeprazole) for a week or so due to acid reflux problems, and I've noticed some rather strange side effects that don't seem to be widely reported. Namely, a quite significant anxiolytic effect, and occasional but fleeting mild dissociative-like feelings, like low dose MXE perhaps.

This is in the recommended dosage, 1 capsule a day.
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Eugene Dabberhall - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 05:07:53 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.131210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131198
Are you taking any other drugs/medicines at all?
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Cedric Channingworth - Tue, 01 May 2018 10:17:17 EST ID:Ko79ARl1 No.131261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here, just an update: the mental effects of the nexium wore off after about another week. The other effect I noticed early on was loss of libido, but that's come back too. Still using the pills because I'm worried about the stomach acid problem coming back, but will probably try coming off them soon (they say to use em for 2 weeks, but similar drugs are prescribed indefinitely to people with GERD, so I'm not too worried, but they're not that cheap)


Alternative to alcohol by Simon Puvingway - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:06:02 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131016 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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TBH except for a heavy weekend away I done ive only drank another 5x or so this.Not much but it was a lot each time.

I'm trying to workout harder and it keeps fucking me up tho.Ontop of that I crave coke and cigs.

I also want somthing I can take a few times a week and not fuck my self up to much.

>options I don't want to try.

>benzos-The batch of Valium I got where fake.I think they where maybe zopies.Theyre hard for me to find as in England they are associated with smack/crackheads

I wouldn't mind etizolam if I could find pellet but the last seller I know is down.Dont want to touch large amounts or powder either.

>weed
Fuck that shit,makes me paranoid,antisocial and too lazy and I'll end up smoking in the day which is where these effects will be bad.
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Basil Gonnerkun - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 03:26:47 EST ID:pkBts8lV No.131205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ether would be a good alternative to alcohol, just make sure you get the kind that's safe to inhale.
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David Drorringbury - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:39:37 EST ID:QlIi19BO No.131206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tried it again today
Woke up at 1pm,mixed half healed teaspoon of phenibut with water and also NAC and a little milk thistle
Waited until around 3-30pm to eat

It's now 9.30pm and I can't feel anything at all.


>ether as an alternative to alcohol

No fuck that.
I've never tried and I probably Would but I'm not sniffing a rag of it on a night out looking like a junky.
It also supposedly makes you stink for days

Think I'll just stick to the ketamine but then that makes you a tad weird
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 03:31:01 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.131209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck it, happy 4:20, here ya go. MAGNOLIA
Take a large seed pod, fully ripe and mature, just starting to split to show the red seeds. Drop whole pod in mason jar, just large enough to have a bit of space around the outside of the pod. Then add everclear/grain-alcohol (over 70% preferably 90%+ ) just enough to cover the top of the pod, and seal the jar. Forget about it in a cool dry place, out of the sunlight, for two weeks.

I wish I'd of done better testing on this one, but doing the above has usually created a tincture that is highly effective at 2-5 DROPS on average. I strongly advise against having more than 20 drops in one sitting, as I do not know if it has an LD50, though I've witnessed someone consume roughly somewhere over a fluid ounce in one sitting and showed no ill effects... but the same mutant also drank lye water and seemed fine a month later.
The effects are very similar to alcohol, but without any of the motor skills impairment. Definitely does some interesting stuff with GABA. Cases of "poisoning" related to the seeds of the Magnolia tree are consistent with overdose of drugs such as ethanol. (feel like shit, puke, feel better after drinking some water.)
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James Bengerchurk - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:05:21 EST ID:AtaGqDXv No.131244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131206
Consumed the last of it today

>Took approx 2-2.5 g at 1.30pm whe I woke up.
>Got active went the gym come home around 4pm and ate some protien and chocolate
>No feeling so bad the last bit what was around .5-1g
>had a nap around 6pm and the phenibut most of done somthing because it was extremely hard for me to wake up..also seemed to of felt rather refreshed from the sleep.
>it's now 00:05 and I still feel absolutely no effects from it.Maybe I'm immune or maybe it only works if you actualy have an anxiety disorder
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James Bengerchurk - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:05:21 EST ID:AtaGqDXv No.131245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131206
Consumed the last of it today

>Took approx 2-2.5 g at 1.30pm whe I woke up.
>Got active went the gym come home around 4pm and ate some protien and chocolate
>No feeling so bad the last bit what was around .5-1g
>had a nap around 6pm and the phenibut most of done somthing because it was extremely hard for me to wake up..also seemed to of felt rather refreshed from the sleep.
>it's now 00:05 and I still feel absolutely no effects from it.Maybe I'm immune or maybe it only works if you actualy have an anxiety disorder


Help ID this pill by Martha Figglelurk - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:01:50 EST ID:C9/yM3iW No.131183 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone know what this pill is? White, oval. On one side is the number 2 on its own, the other side is the letter u inside a shark fin. I found a couple in Australia and I'm curious as to what they are. I'm pretty sure they are being used for recreational purposes but don't want to get into too much detail about location and nature of how I found them. Thanks!
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Albert Hellyspear - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 04:58:32 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.131189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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here's your "shark fin" and the u is an n what stands for nicorette
did you not notice that it smells of mint like that should be the first test of a pill, is this a pill or is it a mint? well it smells minty so gee i don't know
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Nicholas Greenford - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 07:58:41 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.131190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131189
Lol. You're the man Albert
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Shit Donnerdon - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 10:55:33 EST ID:abQD2WG9 No.131191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131188
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Esther Hemmerdale - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 13:42:24 EST ID:y0pRNQwz No.131193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131183

Thats a bar of dove soap.
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Jarvis Hallyfoot - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:49:41 EST ID:ndptdQ1E No.131236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131193
lol


Stimulant Botanicals by Fuck Dravingdick - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:15:17 EST ID:wE7/Vb9V No.130687 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey y'all. I recently bought some Kola Nut from a store while traveling and have been digging it, but I recently ran out. I'm looking for something similar but stronger; i'm quitting cigs so the oral component of chewing has been really nice and I'd like something similar that I can chew while writing to give me a kick. Or any other recommended botanicals that're worth checkin out and easiliy shipped. Thanks & sorry if wrong place
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Jarsten - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:40:35 EST ID:2z+4n8JR No.130688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130687
I used kanna to help me quit.
It's sort of stimulating. Look into it though don't just take my word for it. I gave a thread about it on here.
>stimulating herbs
Ephedra >be careful
Betel nut >addictive and carcinogenic
That's all I got right now. Good luck. Sunflower seeds and asstons of coffee helped me too.
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Jarvis Drollyfoot - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 01:56:46 EST ID:X13uBKPT No.131170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yohimbeeee?
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 04:15:11 EST ID:hoSEbtJL No.131174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131170
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Hugh Pickdock - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 23:24:00 EST ID:aoVNDa70 No.131194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
technically /smoke/
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Hugh Pickdock - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 23:34:46 EST ID:aoVNDa70 No.131196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131194
woops nevermind, didn't read all of the op


Did taimapedia take a shit? by Phyllis Banningway - Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:16:31 EST ID:zWhjn3mb No.130649 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I'm compiling a list of potentially recreational items that can bought legally through amazon and have little to no preparation.
Feel free to add to the list and include info.
Thanks

Psychedelics:

LSA (ergine) - A precursor to LSD. It's structurally similar but is said to have almost not similarity trip wise. Little visuals with heavy body and mind load.
It can be obtained from hawaiian baby woodrose seeds and morning glory seeds. Be sure they're marked as untreated because you don't want to eat pesticides.

DMT - Dmt is pretty well known at this point, and occurs naturally in a ton of things including our own brains. You can find bulk plants containing this chemical as well as resins for the purpose of ayahuasca or acid-base extractions.
Remember that it's only orally active with an MAOI. Plants containing MAOI's such as syrian rue are found in the "frequently purchased together" category conveniently enough.

Mescaline - Amazon used to sell cactus cuttings but it looks like there are none anymore. You can still find legal mescaline containing cacti including San Pedro and Peruvian Torch on ebay and every other market though.
People generally make a disgusting gloopy reduction tea or acid-base extraction.
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jarsten - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:28:09 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130700
i have hordenine and pea right now but i wanna try it on a day off. pea is pretty fucking strong though. stronger than i expected. i think the hordenine is supposed to lengthen that effect. i dont know about poor mans meth or whatever. i dont do meth but have used adderal/vyvanse/ritalin before and it didnt quite feel like speeding titties to me. maybe the hordenine will change it up.
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Oliver Gishdat - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 18:41:16 EST ID:6G53qxbF No.130710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130701
lengthen and strengthen or so I've read.
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Samuel Goodstone - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 12:09:44 EST ID:/YOoomY7 No.130765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>130649
>Dimethyl Ether

I think you mean DiETHYL ether
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Nigel Sushford - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:48:48 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130700
So I tried the hordenine and pea combo. Don't think I timed them right because it didn't work as expected
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Jarvis Drollyfoot - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 01:34:17 EST ID:X13uBKPT No.131169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130649
Phenibut - GABAergic. Similar to gabapentin or lyrica
Poppy seed tea - get unwashed poppy seeds, from the right vendor at the right time. Shake in room temperature water for 5-10 min, strain and drink. Gets you lit for like 12 hours.
Nutmeg - already listed, but i just wanna say nutmeg is dank and anyone who disagrees is doing it wrong
2m2b - butyl alcohol. Liquid, sold as a reagent. Like ethanol but a bit more sedating, a little more like a benzo. Many times more potent by volume. Doesn't convert to acetaldehyde in the blood meaning little/no hangover.
Kava - man kava can be serious. You just need to push it a lot. Still, not suitable for long term or heavy use.
Inhalants - don't do these


GBL life by Angus Nobbersone - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 15:32:36 EST ID:LTXXwXjn No.131166 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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planing drink some GBL something about 1,5ml but i didnt sleep somehing arround 30h gbl make any sense in this situation ? or ill just fall asleep?
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Thomas Pickman - Fri, 13 Apr 2018 20:12:13 EST ID:abQD2WG9 No.131167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
go to bed


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