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Alternatives to RCs and/or which RCs don't show on Piss tests? by Esther Funkinnig - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:42:42 EST ID:KOjkHhJD No.130699 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Long story short, over the Holidays I was at a party and drank too much. I felt okay to drive, so drove home, stopped at a gas station, came out, and cops were there. I blew positive and got an OWI.

Now I need to do daily breathlyzers. I don't mind that part so much, but say if I were to have one or two drinks at around 10 pm, and stop at that, sleep it off, go in at around 2pm the next day for Breathalyzer, it should be out of my system, correct? It's like one drink takes one hour to metabolize and leave your system or something, correct?

My main concern is I have extreme social anxiety, but no Doctor, and even if I did, they would not prescribe me benzos, so I have been ordering RCs online.

Today I went in for my first screening and test. I was taking Flualprazolam for my anxiety and it helped. I told the tester that I had been taking RCs for my social anxiety and was not sure if it would show or not. It did, and they said it was fine since it was my first test, and anything in my system does not count that first time, as long as I admitted to it.

It did come back positive. I remember taking tests other times for jobs and such, and didn't show up. So are any RCs that are benzo analogs that don't show up? I've heard Etizolam, but now this is also the state testing me, so they probably have the best tests out there.

I know I probably should not risk it, and also the UAs are at random, but still.

Do you know if any RCs don't show up? I know the safest thing to do would be stop using. I have tried to ween off, due to knowing about all of this happening, but I just...it's been so hard for me, and I've been on both RX benzos and RC benzos for years...

Otherwise, what about things such as Phenibut? Kava Kava? I assume those might not show up, but IDK. I mean one failed test and I'm going to jail as bond jumping or bailjumping whatever they call it.
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Betsy Siblingput - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 23:37:51 EST ID:8xCLSeyf No.130702 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Tianeptine by Phyllis Piddlehood - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 17:02:03 EST ID:I8FImnve No.130689 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I took 75 mg initially then re-dosed 200 mg. Feeling sublime.

Don't inject it or snort it though. Search "tianeptine Russia" on youtube and you will see a fucked up video. Apparently if you slam it, it feels just like heroin but it rots your flesh like krokodil because its not water soluble.
Oliver Dunkincocke - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 22:33:39 EST ID:d253OyZI No.130696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The issues with injecting and the horrific photos from russia are from people injecting Stabilon tablets which were made with insoluble fillers.
Tianeptine is still pretty caustic to inject, and extremely fiendish but unlikely to give you tissue necrosis.

Stimulant Botanicals by Fuck Dravingdick - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:15:17 EST ID:wE7/Vb9V No.130687 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey y'all. I recently bought some Kola Nut from a store while traveling and have been digging it, but I recently ran out. I'm looking for something similar but stronger; i'm quitting cigs so the oral component of chewing has been really nice and I'd like something similar that I can chew while writing to give me a kick. Or any other recommended botanicals that're worth checkin out and easiliy shipped. Thanks & sorry if wrong place
Jarsten - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 13:40:35 EST ID:2z+4n8JR No.130688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used kanna to help me quit.
It's sort of stimulating. Look into it though don't just take my word for it. I gave a thread about it on here.
>stimulating herbs
Ephedra >be careful
Betel nut >addictive and carcinogenic
That's all I got right now. Good luck. Sunflower seeds and asstons of coffee helped me too.

Dr. Love by Ian Habberway - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 17:09:31 EST ID:r89BGtPW No.130602 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anybody use the love drug? I've been using it for a week or so now. I enjoy the effects. I've been stacking it with Kratom. Any pointers for a boob?
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Jarsten - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:05:28 EST ID:yIfzcma0 No.130673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah. I'm stupid. I've been meaning to buy one. I know that they are only 20 bucks. That country life apathy gets to ya sometimes. Ha I will be purchasing one soon because I just got some hordenine in and some harmine FB so I wanna be exact for safety reasons.
Barnaby Driblingspear - Sat, 20 Jan 2018 11:06:44 EST ID:XjGmWPMl No.130679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I did some experimenting with harmine style drugs a few years back and I found that, if you can find it, THH(tetrahydroharmine) to be a lot more pleasurable
Jarsten - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:01:50 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I actually read about Thh being a more grounded and chill experience. Ive already found a vendor that I like. Gonna order it next actually. I was considering these things because I wanna add them to some bufo changa I wanna make. I got everything for it. Just gotta find the time. Probably this summer when work slows down. Ive had Yopo 4 times and greatly enjoyed the visuals but hated the hellfire nose. I've also had Syrian rue a few times. I enjoyed the tracers and CEVs but wasn't a fan of the extreme motion sickness. I put all that stuff away last year but I figured, hey its time to try some singled out extracts. I hear that harmaline can still be sort of shitty. That's when I went to harming and THh. Glad to here youve used them as well. Any tips that could enhance my experience or even just basic safety protocol I could have over looked. How did you administer yours? I figure I'll try them solo first by ingesting. Maybe later on I'll smoke but not sure quite yet.
Reuben Cladgeseck - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 17:34:54 EST ID:XjGmWPMl No.130683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any time I did it solo I just railed some bumps of it. The HCl salt burns like some sort of hellish RC going up but the pain shortly fades into an almost opiate like euphoria before the rest of the experience waves over you.

Yopo was the single most terrifying and humbling experience I've ever had hot damn I couldn't do that again.
Jarsten - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 22:25:15 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey that's a nifty idea. It didn't even cross my mind actually. What mg did you dose if you don't mind me asking?

Hey if you were interested in Yopo you might find this sort of neat. My wife bought this for me recently. Been wanting it for a while but never had the clams to throw down. It's pricy but definitely worth the info now that I have my hands on it. lots of cool black n white photos of ornate snuff trays used by the native people along with other Yopo related stuff like snuff tubes etc. There's also neat little tidbits about why the snuff was used and random things that were used as snuff admixtures. I've only cracked the beginning but it's already served as a wealth of information.

Neurogenerating neuroprotective drugs. by Simon Greenfield - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:27:14 EST ID:cMql78Hx No.130612 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are the best neurogenerative and neuroprotective ((legal)) drugs?
Charlotte Drillybury - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:08:04 EST ID:/Z45vDjX No.130661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dude weed lmao
Reuben Hollyture - Sat, 20 Jan 2018 04:18:52 EST ID:K6Bq4Olc No.130675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
According to Wikipedia, fish oil, vitamin E, THC, nicotine, and caffeine are all readily-available neuroprotective substances (however THC is only legal in certain states).

I've also personally had experience with the neuroprotective drugs in the *racetam family (most famously, piracetam) which is legal in most places but may be hard to come by. In terms of neurogenerative substances, I've tried bacopa monnieri, Lion's Mane mushroom, and royal jelly but only felt neurogenerative-ish effects from the first two of the three (whereas all of the B vitamins in the royal jelly end up helping keep me energized throughout the day, but not feeling any smarter).
Phoebe Piblingsock - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:03:01 EST ID:cMql78Hx No.130681 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Nuerotnin/Gabapentin question by Polly Brorryfodge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:28:05 EST ID:6PdH70Ap No.130662 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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For the last 3 years I take between 600mg and 2400mg daily and I came a cross a bunch of posts the other day talking about the nightmare of gabapentin WDS. I've never had WDS from gabapentin ever and ive skipped between 1 and 4 days every now and then. I never even take the same dose everyday. I never redose if that's what causes wd? Is it in thier heads? Or is something wrong with me?
Rebecca Forryridge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:49:11 EST ID:Su/uBsh4 No.130663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gabapentin withdrawal is not a real thing. It's simply not physically addictive. They're probably confusing gabapentin with pregabalin. However gabapentin causes a rebound effect in people who actually suffer from epilepsy meaning if they stop it abruptly it will make their epileptic seizures come back stronger than before for a while. This doesn't happen in healthy individuals. If you haven't had any problems with it before you'll never have any so don't worry. I used to do it the same, I even redosed and took it with alcohol and never had any side effects or withdrawal. Gabapentin made my bruxism and various pains go away and stopped me from craving other drugs or even thinking about them. Good stuff, I really liked gabapentin but it affected my creativity, I will not go into details about that; that was the only side effect and it is really weird that it does that.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 12:59:12 EST ID:FjZnj8vj No.130664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is completely fucking false on level. GABAnergic drugs, even GABA-b are physically addictive. Gabapentinoid w/d are not nearly as painful as benzo w/d. I CT’d my Pregabalin and it was far from torture, but it wasn’t nothing.

As for OP your saving grace wil likely be that you never redose. Gabapentin works way better when doses are split and/or staggered. If you’re already goong up and down on a daily basis it means your body won’t have built homeostasis around it.

As for is something wrong with you. No. You’re lucky your body doesn’t let the fishhooks Of addiction in easily.
Polly Brorryfodge - Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:26:23 EST ID:6PdH70Ap No.130668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah it's gotta be something on how I take them. I believe if I take them day to day there's still around 18 to 24hrs after the last dose.

The longest I gone is like a week mon to Friday cus I had simply just kept forgetting. Work was very demanding around that week. I felt 100% ok and idk if smoking weed does anything for it cus i do that 3 to 5 times a week too.

Kava by Phyllis Pablinghood - Mon, 10 Jul 2017 11:30:55 EST ID:U2HCkVS8 No.129764 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I didn't see any recent thread about Kava so i thought i'd make one. I've been mixing my tincture with beverages throughout the day and when i combined it with weed i notice it has a potentiating effect on both drugs, which i read somewhere has to do with Kava working on certain cannabanoid receptors as well as GABA. I was getting back into /hooch/ and /benz/ too much and Kava has served as a replacement that actually has a noticeable effect. Anyway i'd like to hear people's experiences with Kava use either short term or long term.
Hannah Cisslefield - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 12:36:04 EST ID:60FXhEqd No.130401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well if you use bullshit extracts you will not have a good time. Buy some ground noble root off the internet and make a proper brew.
Edward Garryworth - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 09:49:11 EST ID:bgdn28VM No.130485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty meh-tier drug but it's a decent alternative to alcohol
im thinking tincture might be the way to go, cause i make brews of the stuff and it's only remotely strong if you use a ton of the root powder. And even then the effects are greatly weakened if you're not drinking on an empty stomach. It sucks that the worst side effect is nausea, only because you have to drink so much of the stuff to feel anything. then again you could just make stronger brews.

the shit will probably be illegal in our lifetimes so you might as well get some while you can
Emma Blythehall - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 18:08:04 EST ID:xBcwfqkE No.130646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm getting 2 1lb bags of root powder soon and I'm pretty excited. I love the effects of the supplements and am pretty excited for the brew. A lot of people (on here especially) don't seem to appreciate kava for what it is. I find it quite amazing tbh.
Having never tried the brew, what's it like?

Sceletium tortuosm by Jarsten - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 13:40:26 EST ID:FRcarnT1 No.130632 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've been dabbling with kanna for a few years off and on. Anybody into this stuff? I've tried multiple vendors and it definitely makes a difference. I have not tried zembrin or any extracts. I've only had fermented and unfermented herb before. I prefer fermented dude to the taste and effects. Ive read that fermentation reduces the oxalic acids (pretty sure that's what there called correct me if I'm wrong) these can be hard on your kidneys I hear. This is also found in a lot of plants such as spinach and in large quantities wild dock. Anyway I figured since there's no thread on it here I figured Id start one. I also have links I'll post later concerning experimental routes of administration and simple extract info. If anyone see a mistake or a misjudgement please let me know. I would also like to hear of stacking things with kanna or just any obscure knowledge concerning this grand plant.
ℂ⌬©⍟ℕυͳ - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 01:19:17 EST ID:XgR4HG2e No.130637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried it firna while. It's alright. I tried a 50x resinball and I took like 3 hits and felt it pretty strong. Mixed it with dagga too which wasn't bad
Jarsten - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 07:35:01 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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OK cool. Now we are getting somewhere. I want to try the resin soon. I'm just gonna make it myself. It's just and ISO extraction. I've heard tale of people making this stuff and then boiling it for a bit in some distilled water and then putting the stuff into a nose spray inhaler to measure out doses.
>make your resin
>boil resin until water turns a dark yellowish color
>remove resin ball that's left
>put this away for another time
>measure how much your nose spray sprays before running out.
>mine measured 100 sprays when I tested this
>divide this against the weight of your resin you used
>for more accurate dosing you will have to do some tests
>don't make a giant batch as this stuff tends to mold
>store in fridge
Wallah there you have it. An Accessible, easy, and inconspicuous way to measure out insuffilation doses that don't leave your mucous membranes in hell.
>I don't deserve credit for this process
Jarsten - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 07:44:46 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also how did the resin make you feel?
I typically get a stimulate feel but nothing as stout as online reports I've read suggest. It's like drinking a pot of coffee for me with a back drop of relaxation on my consciousness. I also get dilated pupils and at high doses in the past my field of vision takes on a brighter hue akin to a Come up OK most traditional psychs. Not to say that this is psychedelic. I have not experienced that. I've read reports that claim that it can he but more research is needed to prove that.

Smoking scorpion venom in South Asia by Fucking Pockfoot - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 22:27:13 EST ID:ZqMcZh/+ No.130273 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone know what species of scorpions are smoked in Pakistan and India and what the risks are and what the high is like?
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Nathaniel Hindlestone - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 03:27:20 EST ID:ZqMcZh/+ No.130292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What did they say?
Walter Bondlehood - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 14:50:31 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.130297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They acted like it was an instantly effective zombie drug that gave you complete control over people. Fuck, look at /deli/. You think ANYONE has control over those people? Also, scopolamine can take god damned six hours to kick in, and if you did dose someone enough to make them suggestable enough to think you are someone else... good fucking luck getting them to do anything. At those doses, if they need to poop, an imaginary toilet appears in the middle of the room or a chair or plant becomes it. If you tried to get someone to clear their ATM and convinced them, they would just turn left/right, press in the wrong code into a wall or the air, then turn to empty space and hand imaginary money to the imaginary you.

Fuck thse manlet liars on vice. They spread too much disinfo for ratings.
Fanting Cucklebone - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:27:07 EST ID:lV5bJZ6C No.130619 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Nonsense. Datura (scopolamine) is very effective in making people suggestible (to do anything including suicide). It's abused by rogue agencies , think of suicide bombers and shooting sprees. It's used for people to assist their own suicides and to murder their spouses and more dirty tricks. OD can give you a permanent psychosis or cardiac/kidney failure. Low doses can be used to induce fear and paranoia in people. There's gangs doing this to manipulate groups and "social experiments". (You know who 'gave' LSD to the people in the seventies?). If you keep dripping people they can be your slave forever. It's a combination of psychological effects caused by Datura. This drug has it's secrets and people should know about it. The amount of mysterious and misjudged deaths by this drug are so large you would not believe it. The VICE reports are shit indeed, the quality of the plants and seeds always differ. You've seen people who went on a permanent trip in their report. The medically synthesized scopolamine going around in gangs "for manipulating people and communities" are Very effective. ISIS in Syria used this stuff for their suicide bombers. Should I say more?
George Blatherspear - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 17:49:43 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.130624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's really not the same thing as what Walter was talking about. Scopolamine is said to be something you can just blow a small amount of in someone's face and have instant control over their suddenly zombie-like self.
Jarsten - Mon, 15 Jan 2018 07:41:18 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130639 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Found some links on the subject. Pretty interesting. Had never heard of this prior to this thread. I'll definitely write this down. Sounds painful though. I can only imagine what writhing in pain from a dose of scorpion venom for the first 6 hours feels like. Well unless this article is on that bullshit. Which it very well may be.

Datura by Laurel Winter - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:36:39 EST ID:nzLnN49K No.130356 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone know anything about how it's used, made, and what the high is like?
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Reuben Crumblebit - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 21:43:20 EST ID:UOBPVeH/ No.130606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, but when I was stupid and tried to experiment with it on a Sunday afternoon a few years ago, the high took like 6 hours to start and lasted for 3 days. I woke up high and went to sleep high. I mean if you have the time then go ahead, it was actually quite pleasant apart from the fact it took 3 days or so to subside and another week to return back to normal if I recall correctly.
Eliza Pickleway - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 23:37:07 EST ID:QvKb6Isp No.130614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
when i had nothing to do for like 8 months after dropping out, i would spend 7$ on a box with like 45 nutmeg kernels, and eat 5-10 a day. i'd stay high for like a fucking month for 7$ and i'd be doing boxes of dollar tree dxm on top of that. good/shitty times
Priscilla Penningsot - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 07:08:24 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.130616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried something similar and just had nightmares for three days, no high to speak of.
Reuben Fepperbanks - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:49:11 EST ID:Q/GfOwfA No.130620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I ate a full flower and it was a medium-intense trip, Also did it at a bar. Make sure you have gum because the dry mouth is legendary!

I felt like my ankles exploded, very intensely that scared me, but yee a bar kept it from getting too deep, when i went to the bathroom i would see some pretty interesting showers of clear energy, but i didn't want to get sucked in, i played pool, and i told them i was on datura, it was ok, , I would recommend eating less than a flower like 1/2 to 1/4 to test the waters. Good luck
Reuben Fepperbanks - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 18:50:35 EST ID:Q/GfOwfA No.130621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It felt like it will teach you discipline or something

Chiliheads? by Nathaniel Pibblefire - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 19:14:13 EST ID:a900YaTu No.130598 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, how many of you enjoy eating super spicy food for the high it produces? As I understand this isn't a direct effect, but the result of pain stimulating the release of endorphins. Research seems to prove this as naloxone is apparently capable of blocking the euphoric effects in a similar way it does to opoids.

I'm currently enjoying some super spicy boneless wings from a chain called East Coast Wings and some home made mule cocktails.The combination always makes me feel light headed and euphoric though peppers alone are enjoyable for me. Alcohol just seems to amplify the euphoric effects from what I can tell. Several months back they switched around their spiciness/sauce recipes.

The Insanity wing used to be a thing you could only order one of and had to sign a waiver, but they got rid of that and renamed their hottest wings Insanity which had previously be called Inferno. I ate the old insanity wing a couple times, and while it was enjoyable for the first fifteen to thirty minutes, the intense stomach pain and uncontrolled vomiting was not.

The only downside I've experienced from eating really spicy food (other than that which has made me vomit and feel like my stomach is on fire such as East Coast's former Insanity wing) is the gastrointestinal problems. Eating really spicy food always gives me some mild stomach pain and fire shits the next day, but its no worse than a hangover and alcohol counteracts the stomach pain fairly well. I generally hit my local wing bar about once or twice a month.
Polly Guttingridge - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 00:15:59 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There was this old dude my dad knew that used to drink multiple bottles of hot sauce daily for years because he craved the high it gave him.
I eat a lot of spicy stuff too. Nothing crazy but I still crave it's effects. Well besides the cocoa lava...

drugs combined with schizophrenia by schizo snibblediedick - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 15:24:48 EST ID:Izqb1HdV No.130471 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What drugs can I use that will not interfere with schizophrenia? Weed and alcohol dont work too well on me.
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Caroline Gallykock - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 07:43:54 EST ID:JnqIBLGD No.130509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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"You're better off taking nothing"

Cedric Brollyhall - Fri, 29 Dec 2017 21:33:04 EST ID:1kqm75q1 No.130520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tbh acid is still good for me 🤔🤔
Matilda Turveyman - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:03:06 EST ID:Q/GfOwfA No.130535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tobacco and caffeine, energy drinks, various teas, they induce less important experiences, but can be coerced into mildly intense times if you do it right.
Simon Gibberstock - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 03:24:26 EST ID:qpSaGaRH No.130585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how so?
Betsy Chibberkudge - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:00:06 EST ID:/Se08WqT No.130590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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By remembering how wise you are about your mind and remembering powerful experiences and realizing things you can do with those memories and their energy. you're one step away from an important experience. just getting high from life , while on caffeine etc.

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