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what RC is most like zolpidem? by Fucking Dillybatch - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 23:07:05 EST ID:Pk0j/+K0 No.114985 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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is there any out there similar to zolpidem. i used to get a nice euphoric feeling from zolpidem before black out. is there any RC like this?
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Eliza Clebblekire - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 14:12:01 EST ID:Pk0j/+K0 No.115028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Op here like i say its not so much for sleep anymore more the combination of good sleep and a nice euphoric feeling for the hour before i black out. I have tried dph in high doses and the first couple of times it was fun and odd then i had a panick attacko on it one time cause i thought i was fogetting to breath now i have that every time i try it so i leave it alone
Ebenezer Subbermet - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 16:42:59 EST ID:eOmA8lcJ No.115030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You could always try lower doses (200mg ish). Supposed to have decent euphoria, music appreciation, and make fapping fucking awesome
Fucking Dillybatch - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 17:01:40 EST ID:Pk0j/+K0 No.115031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
we are talking about diphenhydramine right. all i ever rember it doing is making you tired as hell, giving auditory hallucinations, respiratory surpression and making you forget what you did a minute ago. oh and making a bit hard to walk
David Clinderchine - Sun, 16 Mar 2014 01:29:40 EST ID:3z4Y/GLW No.115035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah but if you combine it with DXM you can alleviate many of the bad feels while retaining or even magnifying the hallucinations.
Fucking Dillybatch - Sun, 16 Mar 2014 01:51:33 EST ID:Pk0j/+K0 No.115038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cant do dxm im on ssri's but thanks for the info guys

SSRI discontinuation by Doris Serrywell - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 19:12:06 EST ID:VJPCLo6j No.114960 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i've been taking effexor for about two years consistently. i decided to ween myself off, and now have two weeks 'clean'.

i'm having these persistent withdrawal symptoms though. namely a shock that goes throughout my whole body. how long can i expect this to last? google wasn't much help
Nigel Faffingputch - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 04:25:29 EST ID:0X6GLNdU No.114971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your whole life maybe

the side-effects of SSRI discontinuation aren't as widely known about as they should be, because so many people take them, and the effects are so fucking horrible.
Priscilla Pendernan - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 06:36:03 EST ID:fZAynwm5 No.114972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For me, it went away after about 4 months.
Molly Hondlepudging - Fri, 14 Mar 2014 12:39:06 EST ID:faAxU39X No.114995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I stopped taking lexapro after a year. For about the same length of time (maybe a little longer) I'd get this severe jolt right in the center of my brain. Shit was horrible. It did eventually subside, but waking up every morning to a localized electric shock inside my cranium made me want to start taking the pills again so badly.

Pretty sure something is still horribly fucked inside my head, because of the SSRI, though. Memory, cognition, speech, all seemed to be negatively impacted after I stopped using that shit. Kinda hope it's not permanent.
Betsy Pimblefun - Fri, 14 Mar 2014 21:19:41 EST ID:Yxk3vICP No.115013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i was on Effexor for two years also along with Xanax and went cold turkey off it. obviously not recommended for so many reasons. but to do it, i used a 5 day fast/detox to do it.
pic related.
i highly recommend it especially if you are actually off it now. you can find it pretty cheap on Amazon. i experienced the body shocks and brain zaps for the first two days or so. but then they were completely gone. i can only imagine. it should work for you even better.
obviously try to do the best research you can, and try not dwell too much on some of the nightmare stories you find on some of the forums. those were actually what scared the shit out of me reading about people trying to get off it after 5-10 years or so.
you may want to follow up the fast and detox with a raw food diet for a few days, or do some juicing for a week. there's also a very effective and much more safer herb that can be as effective and acts like a SSRI called St. Johns Wort that may also help and get rid of some of the withdrawal effects. IT DOES GO AWAY.
John Brullerbitch - Sat, 15 Mar 2014 20:07:08 EST ID:iskDUUtI No.115033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> safer herb that can be as effective and acts like a SSRI called St. Johns Wort
Botanical extracts are not going to be as consistent as a manufactured pharmaceutical. Not to mention the alkaloids in SJW have a dirty pharmacological profile and can cause all kinds of bad drug interaction.

amyl nitrates by Reuben Trothood - Sat, 01 Mar 2014 09:08:28 EST ID:h1dtpcn2 No.114790 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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they're legal?
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Ian Turveyshaw - Sat, 01 Mar 2014 20:45:17 EST ID:b/CxXVrM No.114800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What does a nitrate feel like?
Martin Nondletut - Sat, 01 Mar 2014 22:33:48 EST ID:BTR8jtY5 No.114802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it makes your butthole and peehole looser
Charles Grandbury - Mon, 03 Mar 2014 11:38:43 EST ID:NFOWstsk No.114823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a huge blood pressure drop that only lasts a few seconds, a little like when you stand up too fast but more intense. Relatively few people find it enjoyable on its own, most only use it in combination with things that feel good like sex/masturbation or drugs/booze.
Jenny Nunningdud - Sat, 08 Mar 2014 19:10:49 EST ID:eWClfoOM No.114896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's really cool the first time you use it, kind of like NO2. Then it's only good for masturbating or you just get incredible headache.
Edward Sullymed - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 20:14:57 EST ID:GFuFzHVS No.114980 Ignore Report Quick Reply

it gave me a fucking headache, it was like coming up on MDMA but without the cool effects, your capillaries feel like they're gonna explode.

Theres no real high to speak of.

lemon balm by Samuel Fanbury - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 06:35:56 EST ID:0izzsWWz No.114929 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have been smoking lemon balm (the dry stuff) for over a week now. The first day I tried it, I smoked around 4 cones throughout the day and got quite sick.
Nevertheless it tastes quite nice, like a strong menthol smoke, and is quite relaxing. It won't get you high by itself, but mix it with tobacco in a smoke and you will get quite a buzz.
It really increases the effects of weed, supposed to be calming but it just got me higher! I have yet to try it with DXM. Alcohol and lemon balm is a good combo too, helps with the nausea and gives me the spins.
The only problem I've had with it is that it builds up a lot of resin and clogs my pipe very quickly. The resin also smells like ass.

SO, what are your experiences with lemon balm? Do you get high on it? What are the effects like for you?
I have around 50 grams of this shit, so I will continue my daily use. Supposedly it helps with anxiety and is slightly nootropic, but I'd love to hear your experiences with it.
Alice Mendlefield - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:16:18 EST ID:2zCAxoiU No.114930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Made a tea out of lemonbalm, parsley seed & a bunch of other things. Was pretty euphoric yo. All fresh plant matter I dont deal with useless dry herb shit.
Edwin Fugglestone - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 09:38:39 EST ID:2bFPwJvb No.114932 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Where did you buy the fresh stuff? Did you just grow it?
William Donningworth - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:55:07 EST ID:DeaurhDM No.114934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I use an extract made from fresh plant material for anxiety and insomnia. It's amazingly effective, I personally find it better than a low dose of benzos for these purposes, plus it's completely nontoxic and nonaddictive. Only downside is it costs around $10 a bottle. I'll probably start making a tea this summer to see how it compares.
Isabella Crocklehudge - Thu, 13 Mar 2014 09:23:23 EST ID:2zCAxoiU No.114973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah, stole it from community gardens and then donated them 5 dollars in their donations bin.
driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Fri, 14 Mar 2014 04:11:37 EST ID:z0dI6daK No.114992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dry herbs definitely suck

lemon balm is a no maintenance plant

Nootropoics. by Fucking Crollerspear - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 04:38:12 EST ID:dq8Hj8Sf No.114928 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm taking Klonopin .5mg twice a day. I was looking around and found some nootropics may add to my tolerance to benzodiazapines. I cannot have that happen as my doctor will not up my dosage. What is the best nootropic to use with benzodiazapines specifically klonopin?
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Barnaby Biddlebore - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:25:40 EST ID:Etv4ywrp No.114944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think I once heard of a GABA nootropic on a forum but it was an antagonist, something very dangerous as It can give you seizures. If my memory is ok (what I doubt) it was only tested in mice doing maze tests or some shit like that.
Or I could be making all this up, I'm pretty fucked up atm.
Barnaby Biddlebore - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:41:37 EST ID:Etv4ywrp No.114945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Forgot to ask, op, what nootropics did you found that increase gaba tolerance?
>Best nootropic would be to stop taking benzos altogether.
It's a good advise, but sometimes a low dosage of benzos can block anxiety and make you perform better. If he doesn't take more than what's he taking now he might be ok.
Just don't upper your dosage. I have spent more than five years taking benzos and pregabalin, all increase gaba in one way or another, and they really make you dumb. I've taken up to 8mg of klonopin a day for months, almost years. I'm still trying to quit lowering the dosage slowly in the last two years but it's fucking difficult. I'm glad your doctor won't up your dosage, he's doing you a favor.

Gabaergicson - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 00:44:01 EST ID:eWClfoOM No.114946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is picamilon a nootropic? it's just gaba and niacin though. no cross tolerance.
Samuel Hemblehodge - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 03:19:02 EST ID:29XyUme1 No.114948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's a slight depressant/calming agent, not a nootropic.
f33lg00d - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 23:54:14 EST ID:9NLPgR/b No.114968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
L-theanine it increase concentration and lowers anxiety, it good at smoothing out stims too.

So, 5-MeO-DALT... by Ernest Gedgewater - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 17:49:31 EST ID:cy1BGR+O No.114939 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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...isn't too shabby.

Allergy tested with <1mg, then 5mg, a week apart. Now tried 10mg and quite enjoying it. All orally in gel caps, with 12 hours fasting before hand, water only. Measured on a known-good balance.

Music is enjoyable, can even get some OEVs simply by paying attention to the music. Couple of hours in at this point.

Anyone else had any experiences? Might push to 20mg next time, this could go somewhere!
Caroline Draffingsen - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:00:18 EST ID:VN6kw2AI No.114940 Ignore Report Quick Reply

boring, weak as shit, body load gets to bad before anything good happens. smoking is possible, but also shitty.

this is the worst tasting substance i have ever EVER come across, and ive seen some shit let me tell you what
Ernest Gedgewater - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 18:19:48 EST ID:cy1BGR+O No.114941 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Heh, thanks for the experience!

It does seem tame compared to other things. Time will tell.
Faggy Dammleham - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 03:21:29 EST ID:U/KSY4q4 No.114949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i like it. about 25mg gets me nice without the body load being too overwhelming.
i think a good way to experience it will be with other drugs. i think it has a lot of potential.
Augustus Nennerlure - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 15:03:10 EST ID:cy1BGR+O No.114956 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I've heard talk of a 50/50 mix with MDA being excellent, it's on the to-do list.

Starting Paxil by Cyril Girryfoot - Sun, 09 Mar 2014 13:39:00 EST ID:+Hync+FS No.114906 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have problems with flying into a rage and saying/doing things I regret, and then feeling depressed - like I'm alone in the world and everyone hates me - afterwards. I'm almost always in a perpetual state of depression if i'm not doing anything to distract myself.

I always feel really bad about myself - how I look, my tastes, what I say or do, just everything.

I have quite a bit of Paxil 20mg, and I was thinking about starting it once daily to help even me out.. Is this a bad idea?
Fanny Buzzdale - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:11:52 EST ID:X/R0DLgW No.114910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i'm like that too. idk what to do tbh i want to try to get a benzo prescription lol.
Graham Piddlechatch - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:19:53 EST ID:qBioHcP/ No.114925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>benzo rage
Thomas Crendleman - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 03:20:59 EST ID:iskDUUtI No.114927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sure, it could help. You won't really feel much anymore. On the other hand, you'll be addicted to Paxil; all life experiences during that period will be counterfeit.
Hamilton Cronkinford - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 13:16:00 EST ID:2vPSbQT4 No.114933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Clarification on the "Counterfeit" part? Curious as I may be starting new antidepressants soon.
Rebecca Blackville - Wed, 12 Mar 2014 06:52:40 EST ID:u6rUx77p No.114954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's probably referring to how you will be happy, but due to the action of a drug.

I don't understand why people care about that though.

the new guy by Augustus Dommlechere - Wed, 26 Feb 2014 16:56:14 EST ID:K1+xe+DR No.114696 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone have any kind of drug that is like this description:
>effects: euphoria but doesn't kill your alertness like weed
>preferably cheap, easy to get illegally and in pill form
Can you rattle off few off the top of your head for me?
Tried weed few times, isnt really my style (from reasons mentioned up)
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Jack Grandshit - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 04:21:15 EST ID:29XyUme1 No.114916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I did about 400mg and just lost the ability to walk a straight line.
Damn. 400mg will do the same thing to me but I can't forget about the insane drymouth, the disturbingness of thinking I'm about to pick up a glass when it's still a few inches away from my hand, the oversensitivity to any noise or touch, voices whispering nonsense in my head, shakiness, clammy skin, intense muscle relaxation which even makes it hard to open my hand completely, and the general bad feeling in the pit of my stomach.
Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 16:13:10 EST ID:XvIHSNSM No.114921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the muscle relaxing is a neat step-around if you're comboing dxm/dph since dxm can cause hypertension on its own.

I love all that horrible shit though. The badfeels and the wrongness in your body. Being so completely overwhelmed in a consequence free environment is really, really good for the soul.
James Fuffingdag - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 21:59:05 EST ID:29XyUme1 No.114923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah okay. I've always wondered about that, since DPH seems to loosen muscles and DXM seems to tighten muscles.
Graham Piddlechatch - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 01:18:52 EST ID:qBioHcP/ No.114924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rebecca Blackville - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 22:36:45 EST ID:u6rUx77p No.114943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the muscle relaxing is a neat step-around if you're comboing dxm/dph since dxm can cause hypertension on its own.

you mean muscle tension, not hypertension
both dph and dxm cause hypertension (elevated blood pressure)

SSRIs and street drugs by Lydia Clayworth - Mon, 03 Mar 2014 10:45:41 EST ID:tzLu7rGb No.114820 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm not sure if this is the correct board for antidepressant discussion, if not then please redirect nee.
So i started taking Zoloft about a week ago. My deal is I've been addicted to heroin for about 3 years, and before that i was already depressed and ocd. I've been trying to quit for quite a while with little success. So i decided i should try taking an antidepressant, because my depression and anxiety were the real problems, my using was a symptom, or my solution.
In that time I've already noticed a huge improvement in general well being, even though it's supposed to take months to really work.
My question to anyone who may have information is, what can doing drugs like heroin or adderall do to the way my antidepressant works. During this first week I've already slipped up and been on an adderall binge (hard to stop using it because i think it potentiates the effects of my SSRI) and I'm pretty worried about it rendering the AD useless, temporarily or longer. I know that adderall and heroin both for me release a lot of those happy hormones that i lack so badly, and I'm just a little worried my SSRI will stop doing the job. Also, are there any known dangers/interactions that I should be aware of? I know I'm going to feel like shit when i come down, I'm just worried about how long it will last, and about long term effects. Any knowledge would be greatly appreciated. <3
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Beatrice Punningmurk - Sun, 09 Mar 2014 01:02:40 EST ID:4wGCanAN No.114904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>.25g of shrooms
90% sure that wouldn't do anything at all to a full grown adult.
Thomas Soblingdock - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 01:47:01 EST ID:n1uHibSe No.114911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i tried it with some leftovers. its very minor in effect but its noticeable if you know what to look for--and that's exactly how an SSRI should feel. you shouldn't feel high but you'll definitely be able to detect an alteration. it's up to you how you respond to it.
Hugh Cemmledun - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 02:10:06 EST ID:02vcnnaA No.114926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No. No idea where you're getting this idea. Psychedelics tend to amplify background problems in your life. Dissociatives are what you're looking for.
Jack Ninninghood - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 07:27:58 EST ID:N4gs7UZX No.114931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>not numb

In any case, dissociatives are a good bet here... DXM is an powerful antidepressant, plus dissociation allows you to kind of... disseminate your problems from a 3rd person perspective. Too bad it's not a good idea to combine it with adrenergic and or serotoninergic drugs (such as SSRIs or SNRIs), because DXM is essentially an SNRI.

No idea about mixing ketamine and MXE with serotoninergics, honestly.
Hamilton Hindleket - Tue, 11 Mar 2014 16:24:58 EST ID:n1uHibSe No.114937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i take 50mg of sertraline daily and i've M-holed without any issues.

Tapering Amitriptyline? by Thomas Sallerdale - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:26:06 EST ID:xcggTOQN No.114868 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi I'm an otherwise healthy individual who has been on 50mg of Amitriptyline (an SSRI) for tension headaches and general stress reduction for about 6 weeks. All the problems that were overwhelming me are starting to go away and I've decided to get off the stuff, because it is causing me to gain a lot of weight (though it did help). I really really want to avoid severe SSRI withdrawl, so does anyone have a suggestion for how I should taper off exactly? I realize 50mg is not a very high dose, so would withdrawl really be that severe?

Wasn't sure if here or detox was the place for this
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William Grimdock - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 17:33:10 EST ID:N4gs7UZX No.114870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Amitriptyline is a TCE, for starters.

I've been on it for some time, seems like whatever adverse effects of getting off it were negligible compared to, let's say, SNRI's like venlafaxine (DAMN BRAIN ZAPS).

Also, don't randomly get off drugs, this can make things really bad for you, even if it doesn't seem like it could. If putting on weight is a problem for you, consult a physician, and start working out in spare time, or take up any physical activity for that matter. I know advising you to eat less is pointless, you're on Amitriptyline, it makes you more hungry than you were before, BUT you can always try to switch to more filling and less fattening food. Lentils, rice, assorted raw and steamed veggies and low-fat chicken (and having some filling food on your person wherever you are, even if it's the token apple) combined with light but regular exercise will stop weight gain in its tracks (or even make you lose some), even if you're on TCAs - I'm speaking from experience here.
Thomas Sallerdale - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 18:01:24 EST ID:xcggTOQN No.114871 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm not randomly getting off it. I know what I was taking it for and I just need to ween myself off it.

Thomas Sallerdale - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 18:01:56 EST ID:xcggTOQN No.114872 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You are correct sir, my bad.
Phineas Foffingpare - Sun, 09 Mar 2014 18:29:33 EST ID:matkkPw9 No.114907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just cut up peppers, an onion, several potatoes, carrots, zuchini, and chicken and cooked it in a soup/stew (cooked the chicken before adding it).
Added some salt and pepper and a little seasoning salt for taste.
Would recommend, I am very full and probably ate 200 calories.
Yojimbo !zuhmdSRuSE - Mon, 10 Mar 2014 03:45:01 EST ID:XvIHSNSM No.114915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I realize 50mg is not a very high dose, so would withdrawl really be that severe?

I ate like 80-120mg of Amitrptyline because I had that shit for chronic pain and I felt fine. 50mg will do almost nothing man.

Also, just because it can be used as an anti-depressant doesnt make it an SSRI.

kava kava by Jack Gerrysig - Fri, 28 Feb 2014 02:10:36 EST ID:6MhBXRiW No.114759 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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tell me what you know
tell me what you have experienced

i have read about it on erowid and google just looking for some insight from my favorite community
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Jenny Disslekotch - Tue, 04 Mar 2014 01:50:22 EST ID:pQ3ZUQMf No.114834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Buy it online, and buy the actual ground up root, not pills. You can buy pills but quality is uncertain and it would probably take half the bottle to get a recreational effect. That being said, I love kava. From my experience it relaxes me, eases my worries and promotes a general feeling of well being. If you take enough of it, it almost feels like I'm on a very low dose of a psychedelic. I would at least give it a try.
Albert Crunderkack - Wed, 05 Mar 2014 18:08:38 EST ID:pEXa6ZIP No.114851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A coffee shop with a hella cool owner in a nearby town sells kava kava drink. Cold, one cup of powder to one gallon of water ratio. I had taken about 8g of kratom (it was pretty bad quality though, generic Amazon shit) about 30-45 minutes before. Drank a cup, it basically tasted like lettuce. Had a nice buzz, about 20 minutes later or so talked to the owner again and he gave me a kava latte (same as normal kava + soy milk and sugar) for free. To me it was like being drunk physically plus feeling super comfortable without the "stupidity" that usually accompanies being drunk. I felt super content and a bit happy with a stupid grin on my face, felt like talking to a lot of people but actually speaking was a chore. Seemed to "nod off" slightly every now and then. Overall a super good experience, plan on drinking kava on its own next time.

He apparently makes a 4x drink for himself sometimes, might buy some from him.
Nigger Billingbury - Wed, 05 Mar 2014 19:16:09 EST ID:HkOrsxps No.114856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dang that sounds awesome. I'd love for some shops around here to sell that...
Hamilton Monderstock - Fri, 07 Mar 2014 15:30:19 EST ID:Yxk3vICP No.114881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you want to find the powdered root by itself to get the best price. there are some "kits" with all the products and good instructions to make the traditional drink for pretty damn cheap too, and then you can just get the powdered root. or the root itself and powder it yourself.
it relives anxiety well, a very great muscle relaxant, and give you pretty decent "buzz" that's very much more clear minded than alcohol. but with a lot of that nice "body load" of relaxation. it won't get you "high" that's for sure. but if you're looking for something that has a much more "clearer" buzz than alcohol. it's actually quite great.
also recommend the "pastes". they pack a nice and strong relaxing load on the body and mind with using surprisingly very little.
you'll want to find a good online vendor that deals in whole plants/roots though. completely avoid any kind you find in drug stores or vitamin shops (capsules and tea bags). it will relieve anxiety and ease tension, relax the muscles. but comes nowhere close to the potency of the pure powdered root where you can make your own capsules or tea for much cheaper and at many different desirable dosages. also making a tea or drink is much more effective and to be consumed in a gulp or two.
f33lg00d - Fri, 07 Mar 2014 15:44:13 EST ID:dL5FZBEQ No.114882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love kava it's great!

racetams? right board? by Frederick Blatherstock - Thu, 27 Feb 2014 17:40:58 EST ID:rU7HecGD No.114741 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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anyone have any information on the racetam family of "smart" drugs?
was wondering how this would effect my study habits
looking to take more prepharm classes soon and was wondering how these would work to effect my concentration span ect.

I was going to try and ask my doctor about about getting a script for my ADD but i already have my anxiety prescription for lorazepam with him. He doesnt seem like he would prescribe me any stimulant because of that but it's probably worth a try.
should i just ask my doctor about racetams? would he even know?
maybe that would help me in my quest for a "smarter drug" i really dont know.
i dont want to spam /stim/ with this but maybe i should after i give this board a try
anything helps thanks in advance.
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Betsy Picklefield - Wed, 05 Mar 2014 22:28:26 EST ID:fYguqSmG No.114862 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I can't explain it. I was oblivious to the fact that I was performing much, much better in school this past year than I have in any years prior. I realized sodium butyrate might have had a hand when I stopped taking it for a few days and felt blunted. I found the following study:

>Exercise and sodium butyrate transform a subthreshold learning event into long-term memory via a brain-derived neurotrophic factor-dependent mechanism.
>We demonstrate that the enabling effects of exercise and NaB on subthreshold OLM learning are dependent on hippocampal BDNF upregulation, and are blocked by hippocampal infusion of BDNF short-interfering RNA. Exercise and NaB increased bdnf transcripts I and IV, and the increases were associated with BDNF promoter acetylation on H4K8 but not H4K12.

It seems BDNF is increased through epigenetic mechanisms, BDNF playing an important role in long-term memory formation. Keep in mind that this is only one study.

Nevertheless, I have been taking this stuff ever since, and exercising much more regularly as well. The results speak for themselves, but of course there is always the possibility this is all active placebo.
Fanny Clovingtetch - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 02:08:13 EST ID:6S8LUkLw No.114864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BDNF is increased by exercise alone. I'll check out the paper to see whether they controlled for that effect, but just wanted to throw that out there.
Betsy Picklefield - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 09:29:26 EST ID:fYguqSmG No.114865 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Right. The study found that exercise upregulated BDNF in a similar manner as sodium butyrate.
Nigger Billingbury - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 15:24:50 EST ID:HkOrsxps No.114867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which goes back to my opinion that exercise + sleep are better than any known noot.
Simon Guttingville - Thu, 06 Mar 2014 20:17:33 EST ID:u6rUx77p No.114874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sleep is incredibly underrated. I cannot stress the importance of regular, uninterrupted sleep.

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