/other/ Other Drugs Discussion
anyone know any good drugs that don't show up on a test? besides spice because i get tested for that too. I already have some ayahuasca ready waiting to be prepared. anyone?
>>118674Oh, kratom won't show up most likely. I've very very rarely seen it's metabolite tested for. MXE did for me as PCP. Umm. tramdol you should be good with, too. That's really all I can think of. I wouldn't want to risk using RCs when they do chromatography-spectrometry testing with my yarns.
>>1190633-MeO-PCP is gaining popularity. It's very similar to regular PCP but with less mania and delusions, so I've heard.
>>119063my uncle Big in the ghettos of NY he says.
>>118698DXM shows up as PCP on drug tests. Ask me how I know
>>119111If you already know just post it plus I'm interested since i love DXM
I've heard it is not recreational at all. I got prescribed it because people think I have too much fun with Xanax. Anybody know if it is any good for anxiety? Or anything about it at all? (FYI I'm not psychotic.)
>>119060I was first prescribed risperdal (first AP ever) at 21 when detoxing from my first alcohol binge AND fucking 5 years of daily klonopin script. I developed this strange schizophrenia or 'schizo ocd' which originally manifested during withdrawal as a thought insertion in which I thought a wooden statue in my room told me to kill my grandmother. I went to the ER. I got out the next day and went to a psychiatrist still in a crazed state. I admitted my deepest darkest secrets to them. All this guilt came out. I couldn't get these impulses and ideas out of my head that I was going to kill my grandmother. It's not really like I wanted to. In fact I remember my response to the statue was 'you're sick!'. But the thoughts came. '12 and 15' Are those the ages of the girls I must do something to? I thought a sign would come and tell me and then it'd just be 'time' to do violent things but I did NOT want to do them. Hell, maybe I'm demoniacally possessed if you believe that's real and should see Bob Larson. Anyway, I went on 0.5 risp and titrated up to 3mg a day or something. Within 48 hours at most, I noticed the thoughts diminishing. I was on and off it from 21-23 or so, and only at higher doses did I notice it was beneficial. It didn't zombifie me, but it mad me get a tan easier (side effect, photosens.). But seriously, I feel less paranoid about others talking out of earshot that they're talking about me, and at higher doses it helped my borderline personality disorder. I wasn't offended so easily, was angry and pessimistic less.. I just couldn't tell you if it had some permenant cognition effect, because I did a LOT of binging on dxm afterwards, the past two years or whatever. But I'm definitely much more dull in my natural unmedicated state now. Reading this wall of text, some of you are probably thinking I may have schizophrenia as well as depressoin and bpd. I think so, too.
>>119067Do you know about the brain damage? Can you elaborate on what parts of the brain are damaged in in what way? What are the psychological effects of this damage? A general affective dulling and cognitive cloud?
i gained 150 pounds in 7 months on risperdolfuck that shit
>>119070http://psychrights.org/states/alaska/CaseXX/3AN-08-493PS/JacksonOnNLtoxicity.pdfhttp://www.plosone.org/article/info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0101689http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23769814http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/mad-in-america/201102/andreasen-drops-bombshell-antipsychotics-shrink-the-brainhttp://www.madinamerica.com/2013/06/antipsychotics-and-brain-shrinkage-an-update/http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=211084the fact that the brain shrinkage effects of APs aren't more well known is a disgusting testament to pharma companies' influence on psychiatry and the fact that they're increasingly handed out for everything from autism to anxiety is only going to increase the shitstorm brewing on the horizon
Thanks everyone. I'm going to call the office tomorrow and see about him getting me on something else. This crap makes me too sleepy and hungry anyways and not even in a good way. BTW I was on Xanax for almost five years but haven't had any for months. The only withdraws I got were headaches and mild insomnia. I spaced out when I took binges and didn't go COMPLETELY overboard with the dosage. It worked very well for my anxiety as well, obviously. ugh.
i just got 150g of aniracetam. was drunk. made an impulse purchase. I'm gonna be taking 750mg daily for a brief period, then if i feel like continuing after a week ill be bumping it up to 750mg 2x daily. anybody have any experience with this stuff?
>>119023I can't get this shit to dissolve into anything, won't even mix with milk for me. Least impressive I've taken of the racetams, personally.
>>119043Throw up and put some puke into it.That should dissolve 'er.
>>119023op, use glacial acetic acid
>>119023Buy a pill filler, I got capsule machine on Amazon and it works great. I use it to fill kratom, about 11-12g, into 24 capsules. It comes with a huge bag of capsules.
I don't like taking for more than 3-5 days at a time. It seems to make my overall consciousness much more alike to when I am tripping, which is not good for anxiety and weed-smoking. Well for the weed, good if I'm on my own, not if I'm with people. It's cool I guess but not something I'd want to take everyday for long periods of time. Like I said, it just makes me much more sensitive in the same way tripping does. Although I haven't read many reports of the same effects so it could just be because I've tripped so many times and I'm still only 20.
I was huffing propaneand I felt something vibrating,but "I don't have a cellphone,"I thought.A simple search of my pockets revealednothing.It was me that was vibrating.What is this taste in my mouth?you know, they put that shit in there -I mean in Canada they don't ship itwith the sulfur smell/taste,pure as the day they ripped it fromthe belly of the earth.I see in the future, Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
its spelled definitelydecent poem for a gas huffer though i guess
>>119081god damn i wish more people knew this.
Inhalants make you feel like a dirty madman because, well, you kind of are. I felt like a combination of a vacuum cleaner and a scummy B-movie street kid when I huffed starting fluid.In fact, I considered huffing propane a couple nights ago but in the US they do put that sulfur compound in the tank so you can easily detect a gas leak. And probably to deter huffers.
Dear friends, I was wondering about the easiest way to make sodium cyanide or potassium cyanide? or somewhere (on the deep web or something) i can buy it? If you can give me a detailed answer and i can aqquire it i could pay you once i know its legit or reward you with a mountain of porn.
>>119062Aren't you a mod?Why didn't you lock him?I thought everyone with a tripcode was a mod..
>>119079I’m just average, common tooI’m just like him, the same as youI’m everybody’s brother and sonI ain’t different from anyoneIt ain’t no use a-talking to meIt’s just the same as talking to you
>>119053Go to a jewlerAsk for something to clean a ring or somethingAcquire blue liquidThis is potassium cyanide
>>119079I wish I were a mod.
>>119087I roam benz a lot, if I were a mod i'd be fucked.
Which (possibly psychoactive or other) essential oils can be taken internally with guaranteed safety?I'm interested in experimenting with at least elemi oil and lemon oil but don't want sneaky liver damage. Is it even possible to know for sure with the studies of today?
Mephetramine.Disgusting drug. Absolutely Awful. The ashes of satan himself.Comes in a sandy coloured, rocky texture and basically just like sand; powder.Smells very very chemically, the smell is so pungent that you almost throw up from smelling it. Think of the smell of a whole pack of crayons burning and melting. Dreadful.Anyway I had a gram of this stuff and tried every ROA.Insufflating - Worst burn ever, worst taste ever (no seriously I would rather eat every strand of hair plucked from a gooses bum than taste it again. no rush, little stimulation, tiny mood lift and a hellish comedown.Conclusion? Waste of time, waste of money and waste of health. Stand very clear from this drug it seems as if it was whipped up in a batch made from spare chemicals lying around.
>>118963When I was really, really young and just found the drug site erowid, 'buying and doing research chemicals on a whim' was pretty much the kind of drug user I planned on not ever being.
>>118964oh yeah, and how did that work out for ya, champ?nb
>>118950I don't know OG stims can kill you pretty well too. This isn't even an RC it's just a completely non recreational stimulant.
>>118974Worked out great. I don't do random research chemicals I know nothing about so yeah, pretty well.
>Drowsiness, incoherence, hallucinations, convulsions, tachycardia. Fear, anxiety, restlessness, tremor, insomnia, confusion, irritability and psychosis. Nausea, vomiting, reduced appetite, urinary retention, dyspnoea, weakness.idk why ud rush into abusing that via the 3rd nostril
>Drowsiness, incoherence, hallucinations, convulsions, tachycardia. Fear, anxiety, restlessness, tremor, insomnia, confusion, irritability and psychosis. Nausea, vomiting, reduced appetite, urinary retention, dyspnoea, weakness.
What are some actually effective anxiety medications that are not benzos?I've tried a few over the years, but never really noticed a huge difference. I've heard of Kava (but I don't know what the most effective way is, I heard the paste?), I've taken Kratom (I know it's technically /opi/) and find it helpful, but I don't like choking down the powder, and I'm going to need to take whatever I decide on at work, likely in pill form (I know I can cap my own, but again..).What about Valerian? St Johns Wort? 5-HTP? I have also taken Phenibut in the past, and I suppose it was alright, but didn't really help to a huge degree. I've also taken Picamillon.What do you suggest, /other/? And I know that most of the things you get in pre-made pill form are pretty low on the end of actually helping. So I guess I'll eventually have to buy some capsules to cap my own. So excuse what I said earlier about Kratom being an issue. You can include powder or pre-made pill or w/e.Thank you.
>>118931i find that kanna, when smoked, produces a mild benzo like buzz, it also has ssri effects, so its also a mild- anti-depressant, i just ordered an oz so i have something to smoke when im out of bud. you can also snort it for effects but it burns like a mofolook into kanna, op
5-HTP I never found helpful as an anxiolytic, but worked well as an anti-depressant. Works brilliantly the day after psychedelics as well.However, wouldn't recommend taking it in the long term as I think you might run the risk of down-regulation of normal serotonin production.As to Kava, I think I respond differently to most people here. I get the anxiolytic effect and the talkativeness, but my body temperature decreases dramatically, particularly at the peripheral, and leaves me with both a crook gut and a shrunken penis (seriously).This is not batch related - I'm quite experienced with it. I've had extracts of 40% and have gotten to the point where I couldn't walk nor talk (really don't recommend taking too much. If you do, refrain from vomiting or brushing your teeth, lest your throat feels full of sand for hours).
>>119020i'll 2nd this one
there are no substitutes for benzos, and most likely you will waste your money trying the array of "anxiolytic, ethnobotanicals" whatever. if you need to bend your perception, try kratom. anxiety, try kava. dont go into it with high expectations.
Can one of you fine people please clear something up for me?One of my good friends told me he got incredibly fucked up last night from taking some Risperdal.At first I thought he just took some high mg benzos and didn't read the writing on the pills and then I started digging through Erowid and saw that some people actually did report some feelings under the influence of antipyschotics.Have any of you ever taken them before?
I take antipychotics because I'm prescribed them for psychotic symptoms (drug induced psychosis is the current diagnosis). Currently I take Latuda, which for me has very little side effects, aside from shakiness and anhedonia. I've been on quite a few other AD medications as well. None are recreational by any means, but here's the rundown of what I have had...Risperdal - Incredibly sedating, makes you so hungry it's as if your stomach is a black hole, had to stop taking because lolprolactin. Who wants man tits anyway?Zyprexa - Not as sedating, same effect on hungerHaldol - Incredibly sedating, makes you feel rigid, shakey, a lot of physical sidesSaphris - Only side effect was incredible hungerSeroquil - Incredibly sedating, moreso than the others, incredibly hungry, like the others. This one made me a walking zombie, and I would sleep upwards of 14-15 hours a day when I was on itAnyway, you shouldn't take them unless you need to. They aren't any fun. They suck the life out of you.>>119012They are extremely hard on your body and mind, even at therapeutic dosages. They can cause declines in cognitive ability, and awful side effects such as TD and akathesia, hormone imbalances, especially with prolactin, and the list goes on and on. Sometimes these sides can be permanent, even after discontinuing the meds.
Don't waste your time on those drugs. They are not fun or interesting, but the opposite. I was prescribed 5 different antipsicotics and I regret having taken them, I can still feel their side effects. I've been on several months with each one for 5 years until I refused to try another one. They were for anxiety and depression (some doctors prescribe them like candy) and they didn't help at all, in fact things got worse thanks to them.Feeling tired to the point of falling asleep for almost an entire day is not very recreational in my opinion. And the way they make me feel is reason enough reason for me to don't ever touch those pills again, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone looking for recreational experiences.The only almost recreational use I can think of is when APs as quetiapine are used for stims come downs to promote sleep in minutes. This type of drugs are for people who seriously need it for mental problems in order to improve their lifes, not for much else.
>>119022well, antipsychotics generally are antagonists at serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine receptors and generally also have a mild anticholinergic effect.so imagine taking an SSRI, and a low dose of adderall.now imagine what the exact opposite of that would be like plus a single tablet of benadryl. that's what antipsychotics are doing.
Trued shitonnes of antipsychotics and they all suck dick here's some knowledge>holperidol will fuck your mind and body up>seroquel will make you literally a walking sombieenjoy they all suck dick unless you want to sleep your entire life away as a fat fuck
>holperidol will fuck your mind and body up>seroquel will make you literally a walking sombie
>>119034lol you had me at man tits fuck that taking clonodine. i dont suppose those are man tit inducing aswell???
can someone please tell me how many capfulls i should drink to get me decently high I'm 6'3" and 210Ibs. Also can someone please explain the high to me so i know what im going to feel
>>119013there is a specific board for robotripping>>>/dis/
>>119014tums don't do shit for nausea. Take a benadryl (which will make the DXM stronger) or smoke weed (which will take care of a lot of DXM's negatives) to fight nausea. This site will tell you all you need to know.http://www.dextroverse.org/dextromethorphan.html
>>119013>>119014considering that has guafenisin in it itll make you sick. you're supposed to get a bottle with only DXM HBr in it. then you drink the whole bottle. that'll get you to second play. you'll feel a strange body buzz/numbness and have weird thoughts and mild hallucinations of perspective and body image.alternatively if you want something really trippy you get two bottles and drink both but you'll prolly throw up. will get you to a level of highness that alcohol and weed can't really prepare you for. you'll have bizarre waking dreams and keep fading in and out of dissociative trance states. serious distortions of body image and feelings of being in different places or dimensions. closed eye "Visions" like fragments of dreams.go here for more questions: http://boards.420chan.org/dis/
>>119035>that'll get you to second play.second plat* -- short for "second plateau"
>that'll get you to second play.
Just bought my first set of nootropics. noopept stacked with CDP-CholineSmart move for a beginner?
noyoull love the smart "you"youre smart when youre on it, otherwise positive effects will disappear in a weekthen you run out of it or must spend more moneyyou do this for couple of months maybe but have to stop because you dont have money or other reasonsthen there will be you with a emotional and psychological problemand with less moneyand a psychological addiction striving to be unnatural intelligenti wanted to order some too but, naw.
>>119001Thanks for the feedback. I was afraid of that. It was an alternative to my stim meds but at least I have adderall as backup
>>119017go for it, but its not a "smart" ideaadderall should be the overall answer to your needs
>>119021Jesus you're an idiot, first you warn him of the dangers of addiction, and then you recommend like the only addictive "nootropic"? And by that I mean fancy amphetamine. Not all nootropics are like this OP, in fact most of them aren't: they're among the drugs with less risk for dependence, besides the "dirty" ones like amphetamine.Noopept gives no addiction at all, for example. And it's pretty good in my experience. There's some threads about nootropics in this board btw, if you look for them you'll find some good information, some should be even just 2 or 3 pages back.
Is there any drug that would increase my sense of hearing?I hear lsd can do this and other psychedelics but what else can?I took some green superman ecstasy once and it really enhanced my sense of hearing.I'm not sure what it was cut with but the drug dealer said that we were gonna candy flip if we did them.
>>118982Oh, I'm not looking to hallucinate.I'm past those days because my schizophrenia has ruined halulcinating by forcing upon me my brains own hallucinations.
>>118975mdma is psychedelica traditional candyflip is lsd + mdma, the pill was probably 2c-b.anyway, "increasing" your hearing = psychedelicpsychedelics don't make you hallucinate, your schizophrenia does.maybe you can use your psychedelic experiences to figure out the difference.
>>118996Well, the only psychedelics I've done are that ecstasy pill, weed, and not really salvia.. but I've taken salvia and it was kinda weird.I didn't like salvia. It made me hot and sweaty and it gave me weird gravity effects.
>>118997weed and salvia aren't anything like the serotonergic psychedelics.... also don't take serotonergic psychedelics if you have schizophrenia, please.
>>119008Thanks for the concern but I already know this.I'm taking medication to block dopamine and serotonin.My brain was making too much of those chemicals and it was causing false realizations about reality.I imagine if I took a serotonergic psychedelic it would give me too much of those chemicals again.Surprisingly weed doesn't give me bad vibes anymore.When the schizophrenia unleashed itself smoking weed instantly became uncool because it felt like a mix of schizophrenic panic attacks.My heart would race, any stimulation would fuck my brain, I would think that the tv was talking directly to me. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
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