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Nootropics by justlookinforadvice - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 17:09:33 EST ID:DaLp8+rP No.128923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have been experimenting with modafinil for about two months now and let me just say that I definitely am a little more confident, focused, and driven to succeed. I have also tried microdosing lsd, which is great in its own right, but its better suited for those who have jobs where creativity or social interaction is needed, rather than a straight drive to get the job done. Would anyone like to share about their own experiences with such substances? I hear phenibut and piracetam are worth taking a look at but I would like to see what you guys' personal experiences have been
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Synthetic !ryBONGJej. - Wed, 08 Feb 2017 20:27:55 EST ID:YzxMTF0T No.128940 Report Quick Reply
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I really really really wanna do Piracetam. I wish you could buy it in stores in the US. I'm too lazy to order shit online and have to test it and all that. It's liek the one drug that increases actual cognition with no negative results and the government won't allow it to be sold even though it's legal.
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George Shakegold - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 04:07:08 EST ID:mK9ZNGHh No.128942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128940
powder city dude. A website like that, testing the compounds you buy isn't exactly necessary.
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Eliza Bloggleteck - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:51:02 EST ID:4T1I+9Hn No.128964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128940
It is pretty dumb that the FDA has been recently gone on a rampage removing 'racetams from any online store that's selling them as a supplement (because in the U.S. they are not approved for use as a supplement, so they cannot legally be included in pills). Nowadays you have to go out and buy the raw powder and cap them yourselves which is still legal as 'racetams are not scheduled, banned
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Random - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 19:28:31 EST ID:tHAkCS2r No.128977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128964
Wow, you're turning into a third world country like some crazy shit, lmfao. You're going down hard.
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Ian Chorryman - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 00:13:22 EST ID:Y9Wzitke No.128990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
been doing phenibut for three weeks, twice to three times a week with great results. Trying to cut it down to one day a week, as the third day you can get pretty foggy brain and high tolerance. but whew when it works with low tolerance its pretty much the closest i got to a social god. Lasts all day, and you get a nice confident after glow the day after. Trying to make a schedule to take this, stims krantom and ketamine each once a week on seperate days to help with my anxiety, depression and lifting results
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Eliza Bassleville - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:46:04 EST ID:J3F9Bmv4 No.128998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128940
You're not missing much man back when i was 15-16 i ordered some choline and piracetam and it had a fairly negligible effect
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:55:38 EST ID:nh4jY7RE No.129002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128964
What's so bad about buying racetams from a reputable vendor for research purposes? The FDA is always overprotective about product labeling, but as long as the powder isn't marketed as a supplement or drug, they can only make a strong suggestion that you not use it as a supplement or drug. Besides, tasting the powder feels much more exciting and adventurous than taking a capsule.

>>128940
>>128942
This. Many online nootropics stores are legitimate businesses with some form of quality control... a few steps up from shady pop-up vendors of RC stims or benzos. The one I used a few years ago has since introduced a lot of peptides and racetams, including classics like piracetam. The only thing that sucks is when major credit card companies and Paypal get scared and the website can no longer offer them as payment methods, even though the products are clearly not sold for illegal activity or consumption.
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Fanny Cepperwill - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:30:00 EST ID:UQHbLEvI No.129046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128964
The FDA is arbitrary af concerning what is and isn't allowed in a supplement. In truth, they're serving as a mouthpiece for the DEA which is why they banned ephedra a few years back.
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Simon Mimmlenun - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 00:33:28 EST ID:NpOtEaHl No.129048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is good info thank you guys. Been looking into this stuff bit by bit and think I'm gonna finally take the plunge. Going to stay careful of course but this seems like the sort of thing I'm really looking for. Can anyone give me info about this stuff does or doesn't show up on a drug test? That's what I'm a little confused about still.
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Graham Murdham - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 00:11:06 EST ID:o6Y63hS8 No.129069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how is Piracetam?

There is some guy talking online about hwo it caused him long term brain damage
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Betsy Worthingfoot - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 18:48:54 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.129101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129048
Which stuff? Standard drug tests don't test for modafinil, racetams or phenibut. Whether or not any cause false positives I don't know, but even if it did you can ask for a more accurate/detailed test.
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Nicholas Bennerworth - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:03:31 EST ID:cE7CTGbr No.129235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried phenibut twice, once with 750mg and another with 1100mg and didn't feel any different. Am I not noticing the effects or could the fact that I used to be a heavy drinker and have decent tolerance be affecting how I feel phenibut?
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Hugh Clayson - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 11:46:43 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.129241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129235
Well it works on GABA like alcohol so it's possible that your alcohol tolerance has something to do with it. That said, the effects are pretty subtle at low doses too and I think that like benzos there is an element of delusions of sobriety. Also like I said, low doses - even 1100mg is a pretty low dose. I found at 2g I start to feel pleasantly relaxed and a lowering of inhibitions, below that I don't notice much at all.
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John Pitthood - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:42:35 EST ID:eSGnt+DL No.129242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hello I am from Russia so in our farmacy everyone can buy Phenylpirecetam. So I think it is not nootopic, but legal speed. It really boost you for a week. At first days it feeled amazing. But then I got tolerance and suck with it. Also I try Ritalin and Phenyl is more potent. Really, Ritalin cause euphoria but not cause good stimulation so it very bad drug in my opinion.

Also I try Phenibut from farmacy and dont feel good effect. It is like benzo, I just wanted to sleep when take it.
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John Pitthood - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:45:15 EST ID:eSGnt+DL No.129243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129242
Phenylpiracetam* fix
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Ernest Blatherfuck - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 00:04:03 EST ID:NZNlMEyh No.129244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129241
So apparently doesn't really work on the same type of GABA receptors as alcohol I have no idea if what I said about that is relevant.
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George Hucklespear - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 11:07:57 EST ID:UzDAggtB No.129262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129244
No, it does, just not super effectively. It works more like pregabalin and gabapentin as a blocker of α2δ subunit-containing voltage-gated calcium channels, but it has some GABA B agonist properties too (same as alcohol). Apparently very high doses introduce small measures of GABA A agonism too.
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A Esoteric Hitlerist - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 03:37:30 EST ID:vyxgjBCf No.129299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>129242
Fucking Russians. You have the best drugs readily available, yet squander them. You're worse than Africans (for not riding Giraffes. ) squandering wildlife, like delicious hippos.
So, you stopped having effects after a week of railing your supplements. You got a fucking choline deficiency. Also, it feels like speed because YOU ARE ON SPEED already, Ritilan, and the phenylpiracetam is potentiating it dramatically.

If this seems harsh, I'm still irritated about the last russian I had to sell off some of my noot supply to. He just kept snorting EVERYTHING, even the stuff cut with herbals I told him not to. So, I being a responsible Hitlerist, added bee pollen and chili powder to the stack... and he kept fucking snorting it anyhow!!! Russians!
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Caroline Bardshit - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 20:00:40 EST ID:d253OyZI No.129303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129299
The poster said they had tried Ritalin too and phenylpiracetam was better, not that they took both.
Reading comprehension before assumptions.
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Charles Pommerpot - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:21:20 EST ID:SlOi9KJ8 No.129307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Phenibut is garbage. Not a nootropic but mainly a GABAb agonist which makes you groggy and gives a weird body load.
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Rebecca Sackleman - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 03:21:52 EST ID:iVtVqd/l No.129327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just found a place that sells colouracetam so I ordered some. Will report back here with the results (if any).
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Cornelius Pondlefug - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:32:11 EST ID:sFhc5gOT No.129357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129327
just ordered some gibtoofracetam myself, will also report back
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Sidney Movinghire - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 03:41:31 EST ID:iVtVqd/l No.129433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129327
It wasn't very different from oxiracetam. I was hoping for a little more of an intense vision effect, but it seems to be mostly a standard 'racetam.
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Tue, 02 May 2017 23:43:13 EST ID:uuruTBw0 No.129448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>129357
How's the gibtoof? Is it stimulating or just a bit of a concentration aid? If it's good, I'm finna order some to give myself more of a mental edge when I'm chugging BHJ and bashin' some bones with my bone-pain-loving buddies.
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Edwin Wengerhood - Wed, 03 May 2017 02:20:59 EST ID:eAZlo3mh No.129450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>129448
gibtoof finally came in guys, glad ya asked!

i'd say as far as plain noops go, of pirace is an 8 we've gotta put GBTF up around 11-12.
but the craziest thing happened - the first cpl doses were just that - basically good piracetam, but the next few days... it almost became sedating! so definitely increase in focus and sort of quelled my hyperactivity too, but nothing extreme to write about yet.

i'm going to try to get my hands on the colouracetam and maybe a few other alz's meds and find a good combo for us

for science!
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Walter Backleshit - Tue, 09 May 2017 04:15:02 EST ID:UK2yeR8j No.129469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Adranifil is wonderful and I love it
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Fucking Grandfield - Tue, 09 May 2017 19:47:56 EST ID:FCDi2+VI No.129471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>129450

>but nothing extreme to write about yet.

LOL from the highest mountain tops.
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Rebecca Goodwell - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:03:20 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.129530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can anyone suggest a UK supplier for ani and cdp/citochol? I'm struggling to find anywhere that works.
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Molly Briblingford - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:26:16 EST ID:r9Rjlj7O No.129535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Phenibut reminds me of heroin.
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Ian Horringshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 01:55:19 EST ID:sYARiSJi No.129536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>128923

I just started on Noopept in hopes of fixing some of the damage I've done with dissociatives over the years and maybe fix some color blindness too if any of the anecdotal reports of it doing that are anything to go on. This will be my first nootropic besides an L-Theanine and caffeine stack.

So far I've only dosed 25mg throughout the day and it seems nice. I definitely notice some clear-headedness compared to the mental fog I've been living in for I don't even know how long. I also notice my vision seems a little better, particularly red and green look more vibrant and pronounced. So yeah, neat shit. And I don't know if it's the Noopept or what but it's really starting to hit me just how many fucking drugs I've done in the past few years. I mean holy God damn shit-fucking Christ one man should not be able to do half an ounce of Deschloroketamine in a month. I've practically shoved half of China up my ass by now. Time to stick to weed and noopept for now.
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Henry Tootwill - Sun, 21 May 2017 03:44:51 EST ID:d253OyZI No.129548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129535
It can definitely get you to a place a lot like a nod. There's not much else I could compare the weird hypnagogic hallucinations to. That said, the general feels don't really seem like opioids to me.
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John Dinkinbury - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:08:22 EST ID:gI6qN7J/ No.129552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Has anyone here taken Bromantane? I am from Russia so I can buy this drug in pharmacy. I have bought and tried it some time ago, but feel light stimulation only under stress. I switched to street amphetamine and have a hard breakdown after it. It was a horrible idea. So was my effect of stimulation only when I was in stressful situations placebo or not? I think it can help much more than fucking amhetamine that make you addicted and give too much energy that you loose for a motions.
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John Dinkinbury - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:13:49 EST ID:gI6qN7J/ No.129553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also Noopept is good nootripic? I can buy it without prescription absolutely at any pharmacy so I think it can be just placebo drug for grandmouthers or silly persons. Does this drug make tolerance? (Because I looking for something for everyday usage)
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:05:51 EST ID:Wonb9FyM No.129556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>129553
Noopept has some effect. At therapeutic doses (~20mg), it's hard to tell whether I feel the drug itself or a placebo effect. But at >100mg it can be physically stimulating. I wouldn't worry about tolerance.

What was your bromantane dose?
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Hamilton Pockhall - Mon, 22 May 2017 03:55:14 EST ID:gI6qN7J/ No.129558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129556
I was taking 50 mg 2 times per a day and feel nothing for some time. But when I take 200 mg in the morning I really feel the effect. I started running very fast and have euphoria for short period of time while was running. But when I stopped doing physical exercises I lost the effect. In my opinion it is just a doping, not a stimulant at all.
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Mushroom-Madness - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 14:57:56 EST ID:X1cbWHPe No.129619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129553
>>129556
My experience with noopept was unlike some of your guys. I hardly felt a cognitive benefit with it in the recommended dose range of 10-30 mg on 4 different days combined with choline. I definitely felt a weird high from it though which combined okay with weed later on. I didn't really like it though so I threw out the bottle.

I was thinking of giving another racetam a chance since I am back in accounting school. I am just hesitant about it, but piracetam, phenylpiracetam, and aniracetam seem very interesting.
Is it worth trying even though I didn't enjoy noopept? I also just tried the cheap choline. I was wondering if it is worth the big difference in cost by buy alpha gpc instead of normal choline supplement? I would also appreciate any relevant experiences anyone can share in order to sway me one way or the other.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 20:39:00 EST ID:Ekof+TGU No.129691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was rxd modafinil for two years up 20 300mg, although lesser when taking the name brand Provigil (insane difference, and I don't normally split hairs). I was already a strong student but my grades rose from 80~ to 90~.

Increased motivation, energy, anecdotally I experienced euphoria (I'd compare it to cocaine with a longer duration and significantly less pleasurable and much more practical. No one else who I let try it got wired off it like me, my pupils would dilate to the point proffessors asked if I took LSD lol.

After grad, I switched to vyvanse as I disliked redosing. It's much different....... d-amph is quite unique to me. While working in a high pressure, analytical environment upon grad, both modafinil and amphetamines made work both interesting and provided the proper physical and mental energy for me to excel within a short period of time.

Nootropics like Moda, SAMe, L-Tyrosine, omega 3, have all shown long term benefits (for me personally) when used properly, in response to the right scenario and with a working knowledge of pharmacology.

5-HTP has it's place as well although not for me, personally from my personaly experience, it seems like a people just load up on a cocktail of random nootropics with the impression their iq will jump 40pts.

Ironically, I scored higher on a controlled iq test while on amphetamines and modafinil.

A friend bought into the whole nootropics make u smart fammmmmm from plebbit and bought a bunch including piracetam and pheni. Now I love the guy like a brother but his IQ is and always has been in the area of room temp. Piracetam struck me as the biggest joke.
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Hamilton Cembleville - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 22:21:40 EST ID:Ynou92rY No.129729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129706
I think this should posted on more forums to give it attention. Nootropics seem so safe....
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Ebenezer Snodham - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 18:11:31 EST ID:kMcJoFBJ No.129782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129691
... Did you have a choline source?
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Ebenezer Snodham - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:23:51 EST ID:kMcJoFBJ No.129784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nootropics are tricky, as each nootropic is liable to have differing pharmacokinetics and/or pharmacodynamics, meaning each substance has to be taken with respect to its own optimum dose range and dosing regimens, taking into account the interactions between each respective nootropic in a stack in addition to how you yourself respond to the substance.

You take 300mg of Phenylpiracetam with 300mg to boost 4-5hrs later (with a choline source, I prefer pre-loaded but I've never found this to be necessary) and you will very likely experience some notable nootropic effect in time for that daunting test with the essay question you know is just waiting to inscribe the meaning of pain into your dominant palm.

In contrast, if you took 300mg Piracetam and boosted after 6 hours with another 300, it's doubtful you'll experience much nootropic effect in time for the exam. Not only does Piracetam tend to require doses of 1-2g+ (in total throughout the day, split into 2-3 doses) before starting to shine, it also doesn't really start to shine until you've been keeping up your regimen consistently for weeks (IME, and in the experience of many others).

My experience is mostly with racetams, I wouldn't consider the likes of L-Tyrosine or other amino acid/neurotransmitter precursors to be any more nootropic than a large serving of meat & alternatives. They're nutrients. They only become nootropic once you're on actual nootropics that partially diminish or exhaust stores of neurotransmitters.

IME racetams shine in stacks, and I've found no partner more comp[limentary to nootropic effect than the original "smart drug," amphetamine. IIRC, they compliment one another quite amicably both pharmacologically, on paper, and cognitively, in practice. The only concern I could muster (aside from not yet-well-studied-but-nonetheless-seemingly-negligible-if-present-whatsoever long-term side effects (in excess of 30 years, 1 week for some of these new racetams) was a potential for glutamate excitotoxicity and resultant apoptosis, dopamine excitotoxicity " ", and a very weak link to what I imagine might cause a lowering of the seizure threshold as a result of AMPA/kainate receptor modulation, but I didn't get far into that reading before my ADHD took me on a detour.

Speaking of which: for fuck's sake, I got distracted for three seconds just now and stumbled upon this:
http://www.nature.com/cddis/journal/v4/n1/full/cddis2012194a.html
Don't let the "nature" tag fool you, this is a real medical journal. Apparently, amphetamine coaxing more dopamine out of those neurons might mitigate some of the glutamatergic impacts on its own.

Regardless of the neurotransmitter causing excitotoxicity, the actual process of cell death is closely linked to the production of reactive oxygen and nitrogen species in the uh... Cytoplasm? Insubstantial. What matters is that these chemicals are powerful oxidizers that contribute to the complex chain of events leading to the destruction of nerve terminals. This process can be interrupted, slowed, and it's damage reduced (if not prevented entirely) by generous loads of antioxidants. Here's the catch: generous loads. Ketamine or dextromethorphan can protect against glutamatergic excitotoxicity IIRC, but my readings suggest that my favourite drug here-to-shake-up-the-pharmaceutical-industry, cannabis (namely THC, CBD, and no doubt the hundreds of other cannabinoids found within its buds) contains antioxidant properties that are substantial, if my interpretation of the literature is accurate. In a nutshell, constantly keeping cannabinoid levels up in your bloodstream can contribute to a multi-faceted antioxidant and anti-inflammatory defense that I'd bet my neurons on.

Then again, there is documentation of cannabis and some psychedelics inducing neurogenesis in regions of the brain, most notably the hippocampus (perhaps my assertions that cannabis and psychedelics applied correctly are nootropics shall be realized as commonplace in time!).

I have a feeling that even if I accidentally the whole hippocampus, recovery from neuronal cell loss as a result of this stack (or others, or diseases such as Huntington's or Parkinson's, take your pick) could be possible.

Anyhow, I tire. Basically, you gotta know your nootropic(s).
Racetams FTW
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Ebenezer Snodham - Wed, 12 Jul 2017 19:37:12 EST ID:kMcJoFBJ No.129785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129784
I will go out on a limb here and make one prediction, however. I think that the general consensus concerning daily doses of phenylpiracetam is true in that one should expect diminishing returns, but I could swear I still reap benefits well into the following day. Perhaps a dosing schedule of 3-4 days per week, leaving at least one day in between each dose, could provide sustained nootropic benefit.

I dunno... I can't help but feel that PhenPir's effects push on beyond the chemical's elimination... Don't ask me how.
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Henry Cuzzlebirk - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 12:52:41 EST ID:RUx2xDlb No.129815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129784
If you're worried about excitotoxicity you should try adding memantine to your stack. It'll keep your brain from frying and also helps reduce tolerance to stims.
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Fuck Nunningfield - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 18:03:50 EST ID:kMcJoFBJ No.129816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>129815
So I've heard. I'm weary of a dissociative throttling brainpower... Then again, I'm thinking more of dextromethorphan.

If only I had the funds...


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