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Witches ointments by Phineas Mammlemere - Fri, 09 Mar 2018 14:04:23 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Say guys I found my tin of belladonna lying around my room. I haven't used it for a while. I know this is technically a /del/ subject but I don't ever use it to get delirious. I use it as a sedative or as a mind opener for helping out in trance work. Have any of y'all had any experience with witches ointments in small doses? They aren't super super crazy but they do give off a mean buzz thats pleasurable when you find the right dose. I always use too small dabs about the size of a standard cutip head. I rub them in on my wrists and wait. Usually I light some nice incense like frankincense and turn the lights out. Then I put on some rhythmic drum beats and go off into my mind. A joint can liven the experience up as well.
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Charlotte Gettingsare - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 22:50:01 EST ID:YIH7Klwd No.130967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>130947
when i was at the psych hospital my roommate was into witchcraft n shit he would always talk about this
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Isabella Denderwell - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:22:08 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.130968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>130967
>psych hospital
So what did he say he used it for? Don't leave it so open ended dude! Give me the deets
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Matilda Hankinwill - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 00:20:38 EST ID:aoVNDa70 No.131017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've always been curious about using flying ointment, but my fear of dying in /del/ hell has stopped me. i might give it a shot, though; i've read that it's useful for astral projection.
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Nigel Clayson - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 01:10:14 EST ID:3jfSrSzr No.131018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where can you buy this stuff? I'm intrigued. What would you guys suggest for a beginner?
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Jarvis Poddleteck - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:30:01 EST ID:Pn54/rlp No.131020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131018
I wouldn't buy from anyone except Sarah Anne lawless. Just Typer her name and flying ointment into Google. That's where I got mine in the op pic.
She has other stuff too besides belladonna like datura, henbane etc. They are all sort of the same. Don't fret if it's out of stock though. Just wait a couple months and keep an eye on it.
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Jarvis Poddleteck - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 09:45:49 EST ID:Pn54/rlp No.131021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131017
>astral projection
Thats what I used mine for. You don't have to go crazy with it. I only use a little bit. Just work your way up until you feel the "doors are greased". Then throw on some rhythmic drumming and go to imagination land.
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Cornelius Droblingwat - Fri, 23 Mar 2018 19:04:38 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.131030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just checked Sarah's page [https://fernandfungi.com/collections/medicinal-nightshades]
And shes out of everything except henbane ointment. I haven't tried it so I can't vouch for it but I'm probably gonna grab a tub since mines nearing the end of its life. I actually just grabbed a bit and threw it on my wrists for the hell of it. I tried a bit more than I normally do. I'm about 10 min in and already feeling the sedative effects. I quit smoking weed and doing Kratom fairly recently (half a month) so this is pretty nice.
>I digress
The main thing I wanted to mention is that a lot of places on the net will tell you to put this on your genitals or other mucous membrane areas. If youre not trying to have a complete /deli/ breakdown then I'd advise against that. I use it on my wrists for chilling out or journeying with my mind. Not to say that one could not achieve a delirium from the wrists. It depends on how much you use. Well that's all I have to say about that.
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James Dartford - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 06:19:07 EST ID:mAZHYNQK No.131040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is achieved by this that couldn't just be achieved by popping a Benadryl?

Like, I thought the whole point -was- the crazy /del/ shit. Like, low dosing datura just seems like... popping a Benadryl to me. Nice if you have allergies or you want to sleep, but not really a high. More like a medicinal tincture to ward off allergies. But again, I can't really see how different this experience is than popping a Benadryl.
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Esther Wummlehood - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 08:47:47 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.131041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131040
This is not the same as benadryl dude. It gets me high to an extent. Sort of stimulating and sedating at the same time. I hate benadryl. I don't even see how you could compare them besides the fact that they can both induce delirium. I mean they are two different substances.
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Polly Pettingtodge - Sun, 25 Mar 2018 19:14:53 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.131052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131041
Benadryl is derived from atropine... I prefer datura, but he's not entirely wrong. It's like comparing LSD to LSA though.
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John Sessledale - Sun, 25 Mar 2018 19:28:44 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.131053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131052
Shit well I didn't know that. Now I feel like a dummy. Haha it's cool though. I still hate benadryl. Thanks for the clarification and sorry dude if I came off condescending.
How do you take your datura?
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Albert Wallywell - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:41:13 EST ID:/18ryeVy No.131086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131041
>stimulating and sedating at the same time

how to spot placebo effects 101
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Cornelius Chunninghall - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 13:45:33 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.131087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131086
You being serious? This shit Fucks me up lol
It goes back an forth in waves is what I mean. Like it stimulates my thought patterns but my body gets sedated.
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Cornelius Girrystetch - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 21:14:36 EST ID:hYs33Ar6 No.131090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131040
They have different potencies at different receptors, which not only means the body high is way less awful than DPH, the hallucinations vary. I have held courts with eldritch abominations on tropane alkaloids. I mostly just see people I used to know on DPH. Also the sex enhancement is way better in my subjective opinion.

>>131041
They are both anticholinergic agents and produce similar delirious states. Nutmeg, Ambien, Ibotenic Acid/Muscimol, Benzydamine and Mirtazapine are all a way way different mental state. Half of them don't even give you delirious hallucinations, their hallucinations are more akin to psychedelic geometry. It's definitely alright to slot DPH and Tropane Alkaloids in the same category of deliriants.

>>131052
No. Diphenhydramine is a fully synthetic molecule and belongs to the ethanolamine class. Atropine is not and it's a tropane alkaloid. Nowhere in the synthesis of DPH is Atropine ever in the equation. They are both anticholinergics and highly promiscuous, and that's about all they have in common. Pic related.
Also all nightshades contain Atropine and Daturas have the highest concentration in ratio to the other anticholinergic tropane alkaloids
Additionally, DPH has the highest safety profile of any anticholinergic deliriant. It just has the worst bodyhigh thanks to it's high H1 affinity. Scopolamine and Atropine (the big players in any nightshade) Scopolamine has a lower LD50 than VX nerve gas and Atropine is so cardiotoxic it makes cocaethylene look safe.

>>131086
No. Depriving your PNS of acetylcholine gives you restless leg syndrome. Depriving your CNS of acetylcholine causes drowsiness. Additionally, ACh antagonists are notorious for paradoxical side effects and this can easily switch.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:19:43 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.131098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131090
There's a lot more going on with these plants than is generally put down in the studies. Can you find any that show climate conditions and the time of harvest in the growth cycle of the plants in question? If there's one important thing to note about datura, is that the ratios of alkaloids varies dramatically by condition, maturity, and the part of the plant used. Beyond that, there's also the questions of how the processing effects things (such as adding wood ash and/or burnt seashells to the traditional preparations) and Method of Delivery influencing the absorption of the different constituents.
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 06:21:02 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.131099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131090
Forgot to mention.
>scopolamine has a lower LD50 than nerve gas!
Scopolamine and Atropine are used as antidotes for nerve gas like sarin. Most militaries stock auto-injectors of Atropine, for that use.
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Sidney Smallworth - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 11:57:13 EST ID:HbWnkYvO No.131100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131099
Because they are fast acting anticholinergics, which means they block the build up of acetylcholine so you don't choke to death. They have been used as antivenoms for decades. That doesn't mean they are healthy things to put in your body.

Moreover thats completely irrelevant to the point.
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Esther Nudgelit - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 17:55:37 EST ID:mAZHYNQK No.131101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131090
Both DPH and scopolamine are also weak inhibitors of SERT - the SSRI drug class was in fact discovered by analyzing these effects.
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Edward Brookstock - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 23:19:36 EST ID:mAZHYNQK No.131102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131090
>They have different potencies at different receptors

Yes, but I'm talking about microdosing in particular, or what OP mentioned.


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