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Alternative to alcohol by Simon Puvingway - Tue, 20 Mar 2018 21:06:02 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TBH except for a heavy weekend away I done ive only drank another 5x or so this.Not much but it was a lot each time.

I'm trying to workout harder and it keeps fucking me up tho.Ontop of that I crave coke and cigs.

I also want somthing I can take a few times a week and not fuck my self up to much.

>options I don't want to try.

>benzos-The batch of Valium I got where fake.I think they where maybe zopies.Theyre hard for me to find as in England they are associated with smack/crackheads

I wouldn't mind etizolam if I could find pellet but the last seller I know is down.Dont want to touch large amounts or powder either.

>weed
Fuck that shit,makes me paranoid,antisocial and too lazy and I'll end up smoking in the day which is where these effects will be bad.

>ket
I like it but it's a bit pricy now and the quality has went down.

>opis
Not wanting to mess with them.I eat codien from time to time but it's shit now.By the time I get to the level where I'm going to feel high o get extreme itching and no anti histamine seem to work.

>Maybe

>kratom
I got a sample pack before Christmas the first few times made me feel sick.One of them felt abbot speedy like tramadol 2 felt nice and chil but bad nausea.Ate 3 ga of one brand and felt amazing for 20mins then was sort of nice comatosed on the couch feeling like I was going to throw up and it just killed the high.

The reliable Netherlands site was a good source but they fucked up the lableing on there brown parcels.

>Any suggestions on what one I should try again?
>Something sedating and euphoric ?
>Also What's the best for pain relief for my mothers bad back what causes insomnia ?

>Kava
Been wanting to try this for ever.Alwaysnput of buying it because it seemed exspensive for the effects I've read about.

>phenebut
Never worked but I'm trying it again

>GBl family
Seems a bit dangerous to fuck about with.

>any other sugggesstions ? Any thing I can buy on the clearnet ?

Maybe I should some sort of RC diss
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Hedda Worthingworth - Thu, 22 Mar 2018 13:39:48 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131016
Ok I think I'm just goin try the KAVA for now.
I know o can't get a source here but does any one know what type I should look for?
Best strain/bang for my buck ?
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Phyllis Pongerbanks - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 03:13:19 EST ID:RDVhIqDh No.131035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131026
I've got some vanuatu instant green right now. Keep in mind it has a reverse tolerance property, so you'll probably have to take a small amount for a few days before you start feeling much (Kanna also seems to have this property). I haven't had any for about a year and just got this bag a couple days ago, been taking teaspoons and haven't felt anything yet. I'm giving it a shot at least, something to cut back on my kratom use.
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Oliver Fuckingwater - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 19:30:53 EST ID:A4Cp+20N No.131044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Think I'll just go with phenibut kratom and Tianeptine
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Hamilton Hobblededge - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:26:25 EST ID:h7nZgvtP No.131062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You could try ethyl ether and get smelly
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Phoebe Garryfield - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 22:02:34 EST ID:iu4TAJFf No.131064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131062
What would be the safest ether to buy?
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Betsy Nickleworth - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:27:45 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131062
I've half wanted to try this since watching fear and loathing years ago BUT. I feel as if it would cause you a lot of harm.
And because you can easily order it of the internet and it's a short lasting quick supposedly fun high I'd be tempted after one use to buy it more often sort of thinking it's not so bad.

How dangerous to your health is it ?
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Lydia Shakestock - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 23:31:02 EST ID:yYzmRRmb No.131066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131065
>my question exactly
I huffed starter fluid once when I was not giving a Fuck to the max. It felt awful. Hopefully straight ether would be better. I hear you can drink it too. I'm gonna look up some more stuff about it and post here.
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Eugene Pummlecocke - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 00:53:57 EST ID:paI3yvTy No.131068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131066
Do not drink ether holy christ it will fuck up your insides like formaldehyde, huff if it you have to do it at all but its still straight poison to your brain and insides
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Fuck Greenford - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:26:32 EST ID:ZcHKtfns No.131073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131068
I wasn't actually gonna drink it kek
I was just saying. I hear you have to dilute it anyway. I'm not even sure if im gonna do it again. Seems a little too easy to obtain. Eh if I ever actually use it for extraction processes maybe I'll give it a little whiff but after looking through erowid I'm not sure. Looks to he iffy for me now.
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Charlotte Girrydat - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 19:47:46 EST ID:mAZHYNQK No.131074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131068
Huffing ether isn't poison to the insides, that's specifically the reason why people inhaled the fumes over drinking it straight. It may be neurotoxic through its NMDA antagonism like all other NMDA antagonists but we don't know that.
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Hugh Wanderdedging - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 22:54:16 EST ID:4Pqrtzo1 No.131078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131073
Dear god.

>Referencing Fear and Loathing the movie
>Using kek for lol

Why oh why has the future forsaken us...
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Beatrice Bavingbadge - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 23:08:31 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131078
Op doesn't use kek
Fear and loathing is the only film op has seen ether being used in
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Barnaby Bunhall - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 06:24:27 EST ID:PZlZuUXF No.131083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131066
underage spotted
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Cornelius Chunninghall - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:52:12 EST ID:T8Wpo8rm No.131088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131083
>(((spotted)))
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Phoebe Crillydidging - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 22:10:21 EST ID:w/YNRUzD No.131139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131016
Ok my phenibut came and it seems rather shit

I don't know exact dose but I recon first time around 500mg 2nd time maybe 1.2g 2 days later
First time was about 3 hours after eating second time I ate around 2 hours later

Fuck all was felt but when I went to sleep it was deep and it felt so hard to wake up.

I'll try it again Monday,1g(weighed this time) empty stomach,eat 3-3 hours later.

>what else should I try to buy the besides RC benzos.Already debating to buy some etizolam but it's. It the sort of thing I'd want to have too pften
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Ebenezer Sisslekog - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 01:43:18 EST ID:vIhkPLut No.131141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131139
> first time around 500mg 2nd time maybe 1.2

Those seem like very small doses to feel much. It took 2 grams for me to feel it at all, and about 4 grams for real effects.
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Hamilton Crandleville - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 08:02:19 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131141
People online are saying if you go over 2gs you could knock your self out so I was a bit cautious
I guesss being from 420 I should know my doses should be higher tho haha

I'll weigh out 2g empty stomach next time if nothing after 4-5 hours redoes another g
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David Grimlock - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:28:12 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.131144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131143
2g is a sort of 'I feel like socialising today' amount, not sure what that person was thinking.
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Doris Diggleridge - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 18:31:49 EST ID:BNMdVJuL No.131145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131144
I haven't got anxiety though
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Charles Nickleshaw - Sun, 08 Apr 2018 14:52:14 EST ID:9jj6M3hX No.131149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131145
The point is that it's not remotely enough to knock you out.
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Nigel Clegglefot - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 18:41:47 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131149
From the reports though o was expecting something half decent.

Today I recon I took about 1.5 g empty stomach after training and not a single thing was felt

Goin wait until Saturday take maybe 3 g

Another reason why I was expecting some sort of good feels was that an old friend who turned junky got him self on a 20 a day diazpam habit and he told me that when he used to go go through a lot of phenibut and actualy thought it was decent
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Nell Blagglemure - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 15:03:49 EST ID:gXBDR6XB No.131156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131150
Did you eat it on an empty stomach and wait at least 3 hours before even expecting to feel something? 1.5 is a decent starter dose, but 2g and over is the recreational dose. 1.5 is a general mood lifter and social lubricant. Over that and things start to literally get shaky.
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Henry Cridgechuck - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 19:07:56 EST ID:juK3oBqg No.131159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131156
Yerp
Only thing I've noticed from it is when I try to wake up from it I feel extremely groggy and keep on dosing off and can't wake properly from it.

Other than that nothing
I even have a deep sleep but because of above feeling when trying to wake it feels as if it's counter acting any goodness from it.

I'll try it one more time at 2.5g in a few more days

Then Try it the next day after taking coke and see if it helps with the anxiety I get from that the next day.
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Simon Clinkinworth - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 02:51:34 EST ID:xQdH+cJH No.131178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131159
It can take up to 5 hours to kick in (not peak) and it lasts for ages. Could well be that you're asleep before it's in full effect.
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Basil Gonnerkun - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 03:26:47 EST ID:pkBts8lV No.131205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ether would be a good alternative to alcohol, just make sure you get the kind that's safe to inhale.
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David Drorringbury - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:39:37 EST ID:QlIi19BO No.131206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tried it again today
Woke up at 1pm,mixed half healed teaspoon of phenibut with water and also NAC and a little milk thistle
Waited until around 3-30pm to eat

It's now 9.30pm and I can't feel anything at all.


>ether as an alternative to alcohol

No fuck that.
I've never tried and I probably Would but I'm not sniffing a rag of it on a night out looking like a junky.
It also supposedly makes you stink for days

Think I'll just stick to the ketamine but then that makes you a tad weird
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A_Wizard !cMZsY.BCnU!!vVWR8L52 - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 03:31:01 EST ID:ZN11u+84 No.131209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck it, happy 4:20, here ya go. MAGNOLIA
Take a large seed pod, fully ripe and mature, just starting to split to show the red seeds. Drop whole pod in mason jar, just large enough to have a bit of space around the outside of the pod. Then add everclear/grain-alcohol (over 70% preferably 90%+ ) just enough to cover the top of the pod, and seal the jar. Forget about it in a cool dry place, out of the sunlight, for two weeks.

I wish I'd of done better testing on this one, but doing the above has usually created a tincture that is highly effective at 2-5 DROPS on average. I strongly advise against having more than 20 drops in one sitting, as I do not know if it has an LD50, though I've witnessed someone consume roughly somewhere over a fluid ounce in one sitting and showed no ill effects... but the same mutant also drank lye water and seemed fine a month later.
The effects are very similar to alcohol, but without any of the motor skills impairment. Definitely does some interesting stuff with GABA. Cases of "poisoning" related to the seeds of the Magnolia tree are consistent with overdose of drugs such as ethanol. (feel like shit, puke, feel better after drinking some water.)


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