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Anxiety by William Coffingwun - Fri, 25 May 2018 09:34:52 EST ID:cD/wLyAg No.131340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What is a good, healthy alternative to Benzos? I need something against anxiety.
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James Sabberkadging - Fri, 25 May 2018 10:01:06 EST ID:F0n3Ihbz No.131341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
gabapentin has worked tremendously for my anxiety, it's similar to pregabalin or phenibut but it's less addictive and less bad withdrawals. youll only really need to take 300-600mg and youre set
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Martin Chonkinlere - Sun, 27 May 2018 02:30:39 EST ID:kjwa3j85 No.131348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131341
seconding gabapentin. your tolerance will go through the roof really fuckin quick though
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Albert Grandson - Sun, 27 May 2018 03:57:03 EST ID:1mrnr9mU No.131349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DPH kinda works
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Fucking Pellyhood - Sun, 27 May 2018 08:37:20 EST ID:F0n3Ihbz No.131351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131349
if you go the antihistamine route hydroxyzine is probably better it'll give you less alzheimers
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ShamanMD - Sun, 27 May 2018 15:10:31 EST ID:bTYqIQuy No.131353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131340
Natural anxiolytics include rosmarinic acid (from lemon balm), baicalin, wogonin and baicalein (from skullcaps) and kava kava with its kavalactones. You can find them online, either pure or as extracts from the plants and they're quite efficient at stopping anxiety. They're no fun at all compared to benzos, you can't get high on them, not even on Kava Kava, no matter what some say and no matter how much you take (especially if you have a tolerance to benzos) but they're also Not addictive. I personally really like 'em, I have anxiety and they make feel much better in any context.
There's also passion flower which contain MAOI betacarbolines that do wonders for me personally even though ironically enough they are antagonists at GABA receptors. I don't take passion flower often though because, while it works during the day, it won't let me sleep at night.
Other natural substances with anxiolytic properties are L-theanine and 5-HTP.
Have fun trying any of these or a combination of them and see what works best for you.
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Emma Bimblestire - Mon, 28 May 2018 14:28:09 EST ID:wlHokRrb No.131362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131341
Great if you can get ahold of it.
>>131348
Holy fucking shit seconding this. You'll go from being off your ass from 600-900 to plowing down 4k in like a week just to get somewhere.
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Matilda Worthinglock - Thu, 31 May 2018 11:52:28 EST ID:ZKcu5nWa No.131370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the recommendations so far.
I even found some Gabapentin at home. I will give it a try soon.

>>131353
Do you also have experience with CBD oil?
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Henry Gemmleforth - Fri, 01 Jun 2018 02:19:52 EST ID:TgYrC4Fg No.131372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131370
I was at a festival this last weekend and they had a 13 year professional masseuse doing CBD massages
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Betsy Hablingfuck - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 03:03:10 EST ID:Fjmr4iH6 No.131374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I ordered these 3 myself. Apparently, they are great at reversing damage done to the GABA receptors.

Taurine
Fasoracetam
Beta-Alanine
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Walter Sallerpock - Sat, 02 Jun 2018 20:54:31 EST ID:Xq6cows/ No.131378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131370
I've tried CBD oil. It is effective for anxiety but it doesn't last long, meaning you can't use it for many days in a row before it stops doing what it does. CBD is the one that made be myself the most in a social context when I initially used it. I can't tell you which is more efficient, it's up to you to try and see what works best for you. You can also alternate them, use one thing on monday, another thing on tuesday and so on.
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Fucking Cevingstot - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 19:43:10 EST ID:ogGxK1cD No.131384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cannabis, psychedelics, low doses of MDMA (very low, when you need them), arguably the gabapentinoids gabapentin and pregabalin when you need them, SSRIs, beta-blockers, and antipsychotics could also help.

I suggest you talk to your doctor, they could prescribe a multitude of substances that don't have the addictive potential and/or such a severe withdrawal syndrome. Even still, if medically supervised I image even tapering off benzodiazepines could be managed with little discomfort.
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Ernest Cludgewill - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 00:44:21 EST ID:/cOolO7d No.131408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kava
Blue or pink lotus tea
Valerian root
All contain gabanergic alkaloids
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Priscilla Snodshit - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 04:15:57 EST ID:sebWXH0l No.131429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131384
All horrific choices for anxiety, wew lad. Are you trying to make it worse for OP?
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Matilda Bondergold - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 00:50:09 EST ID:0/0IZfU4 No.131453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131384
>cannabis
>MDMA
>SSRIs
>antipsychotics
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Ebenezer Croblingstidge - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 01:17:50 EST ID:MdwRl4Ae No.131454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131429
>>131453
OP could also take a dose of psychotherapy

I'm talking microdoses,
And yes,
These substances can help with anxiety,
Used in the right way.

I have heard of patients prescribed antipsychotics for anxiety.

Go outside. Read a book. There's a whole world out there.
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Charlotte Pickway - Sat, 23 Jun 2018 18:14:55 EST ID:Cv4iEdzf No.131458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131454
fuckin around low doses of MDMA is just as bad as medicating yourself on your own with SSRIs
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Caroline Findermat - Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:03:18 EST ID:ezjO+nbk No.131459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Weed and gabapentin are the only other things that help my anxiety. Some people get heightened anxiety off weed, but even a strong sativa is better for calming me down from a panic attack than benzos. Gabapentin is great, but like others said, it loses its effectiveness very quickly. Opiates help too, but getting addicted to opiates is a horrible fucking idea for any reason except chronic pain. CBD is pretty much just a meme. It sort of helps, but it's so mild that if you're getting substantial relief from it you probably don't need drugs to keep it in check
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Samuel Drurringville - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 12:16:46 EST ID:sebWXH0l No.131462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131454
>microdose meme!
Absolutely 100% unsubstantiated by any research. You are relying on case reports from Twitter and Redshit users.
>I have heard of patients prescribed antipsychotics for anxiety.
I've heard of patients being prescribed antibiotics for anxiety too, that doesn't make it a good idea. Just because a doctor signed a note doesn't mean it's the right prescription choice. Antipsychotics are meant for the psychotic. Don't fuck with dopamine unless you enjoy the side effects of fucking with dopamine, that is to say, Parkinsonism.
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Fucking Tillingridge - Thu, 28 Jun 2018 03:34:23 EST ID:p5UbAL7i No.131472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131378
I decided to start mixing cbd weed into my weed I pack for work. My anxiety is getting too much, I start work again Saturday.. we will see how it goes
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Betsy Cozzlebury - Fri, 29 Jun 2018 02:37:48 EST ID:H/K6LCQk No.131473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131340
>I need a healthy alternative to anxiety.
moving of the body in ways that please you.
Or exercise.
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Archie Sushstene - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 19:37:23 EST ID:Fa+Ff5fp No.131486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131472
Youre gonna want as little THC as possible, preferably none

also, if you smoke your weed, try vaping it instead. 100% of the time, vaping gives me less anxiety, maybe because of the diminished symptoms on the throat and lungs and the fact the smell dissipates quicker

Remember though, there's no proper substitute for practicing mindfulness, only worrying about what is directly in front of you and one thing at a time, and proper breathing techniques.

I've also used DPH for anxiety and while it works decent, it's probably too toxic to be worthwhile and can make you drowsy and long term DPH use ruins a man

Check out your local pharmacy as well, I've found benzedrex inhalers (used normally, not eaten) are soothing and relaxing, and in the past when I took less drugs with potential interactions, St John's wort , OR 5HTP ( don't take both) are decent anxiolytic antidepressants for some people.

Above all, make sure you are getting enough sleep, more importantly keep your sleep schedule consistent, staying hydrated, eating enough, do some light excercise twice a week.

Don't ever do benzos, especially not recreationally. If you've used them in the past stay strong and away from them. They're too strong and don't allow you to correct what's causing your anxiety. They should really only be used in panic attack situations, such as for a phobia of flight if you need to fly
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Archie Sushstene - Sat, 30 Jun 2018 19:40:03 EST ID:Fa+Ff5fp No.131487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just want to add that CBD does work very well for anxiety but "CBD products" in the US at least are unregulated and probably 99% bunk quality.

I've always wondered, if you do have a strain with high CBD content and low THC content, what edibles with that strain would be like. Itd be like a super concentrated anxiolytic that lasts longer than smoking. Might be worth looking into if you have a source for such a strain
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Eugene Benderlock - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 01:53:42 EST ID:NOGDG9CA No.131548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131486
Doesn't St John's wort function as a mild SSRI?
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Ernest Blevingbedge - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 10:05:56 EST ID:d0nKgrG2 No.131549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131548
Like most pharmacologically active plants, st johns wort does a lot of things synergistically. This means the potential for aid is increased, since the chances you'll hit something wrong with you are too, but also the side effect profile.
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Polly Handerwill - Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:41:56 EST ID:oEuvVMCt No.131550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Look into Lions mane. It permanently reduces anxiety and hones your focus. I've heard a bit that it may reduce libido, I only used it for two weeks and I didn't notice it doing that. The Lions mane from nootropric Depot is good stuff
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Charles Favingbanks - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 23:36:20 EST ID:NOGDG9CA No.131560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131351
This. Too much DPH can mess up your brain.

I believe that this is caused by the antichloronigic effects of DPH. It functions as an 'anti-nootropic' drug of sorts because it is an acetylcholine receptor antagonist.
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Archie Wobblelire - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 08:33:05 EST ID:g543iYti No.131666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
try promethazin
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Alice Pedgeridge - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 02:17:25 EST ID:pkBts8lV No.131669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131560
I've personally found a little success with treating my DPH-induced mental deficiencies with piracetam and choline. I haven't found that Lion's Mane did anything other than make my scalp tingle.
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Hannah Soffingwill - Thu, 09 Aug 2018 10:54:40 EST ID:u5RahwyF No.131670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Buspirone works fantastically for my GAD. It could work for you, or it might do nothing.
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Albert Dommleforth - Tue, 14 Aug 2018 23:39:01 EST ID:q3WL58Zh No.131680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Zoloft
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Hannah Heggleshaw - Wed, 15 Aug 2018 00:30:01 EST ID:oXzWrX9x No.131681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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honestly I've tried a lot of things but after like 30 years of trying out different shit I'm pretty sure the best thing is good old fashioned psychiatrist-prescribed SNRIs. or SSRIs, whichever either one works. try effexor.
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Walter Hopperham - Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:34:40 EST ID:rqo5+LCv No.131700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131681
Effexor was nice, but I couldn't feel my cock after a week of taking it, and I couldn't orgasm.
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Sidney Dartville - Sun, 19 Aug 2018 08:04:00 EST ID:Iu+LVeUi No.131713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131340
The only thing that comes close won't even work until you get past wds. But if you're willing to try, then mix exercise with healthy diet, hobbies, close friends, plenty of cash, and some heroin
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Cornelius Ponderfuck - Tue, 21 Aug 2018 06:09:15 EST ID:C8DDHneC No.131726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131340

Fasoracetam, or CBD oil,. Maybe Shrooms/LSD microdose. GHB/GBL (tolerance tho). Theanine (lol).
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Eugene Cushson - Tue, 28 Aug 2018 13:41:19 EST ID:F0nOePe9 No.131766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131670
I've been considering a script. Can you tell more?

>>131349
>>131351
How would you rank these?
>Cetirizine
>Levocabastine
>Ebastine
They're all mentioned to be low potential drowzee. Should I try all at once? The levocabastine comes in nasal drops 😌
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Thomas Tillingville - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:19:57 EST ID:F0nOePe9 No.131767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131766
Ok trying levocabastine nasal spray.

This is actually awesome, boosts my benzo, tickles my nose, oxy doesn't even compare dayummm

inb4 I get /del/ and restless legs like I did when abusing cyclizine
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Thomas Tillingville - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 11:34:08 EST ID:F0nOePe9 No.131768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131767
RASH RULES EVERYTHING AROUND ME
GETTIN DROWSY
BENA BENA DRYL YAAALLL
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Beatrice Pitthood - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 12:30:25 EST ID:cah0O6wm No.131769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131726
This.

Emoxypine, Tianeptine or red vein kratom (when used responsibly), phenibut or f-phenibut also show potential health benefits while also being anxiolytic. More studies need to be done on some of these though.
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Pica - Wed, 29 Aug 2018 13:22:31 EST ID:QEdAZpY/ No.131771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131768
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Polly Drablingwitch - Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:13:09 EST ID:rqo5+LCv No.131788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Question for people who've tried both Wellbutrin and Gabapentin or Buspirone. Were Gabapentin and Buspirone better than Wellbutrin, or what?
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Polly Drablingwitch - Tue, 11 Sep 2018 15:17:26 EST ID:rqo5+LCv No.131789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131700
I was just gonna reply with "are you me?" and then I realized that this comment was made by me. I'm losing it.
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Cedric Sucklenudge - Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:15:44 EST ID:KwLO74Zn No.131790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tyrosin and 5-HTP
These two amino acids are basically dopamine and serotonin supplements that you can buy from any health store.
Been taking them for about a week now and there is a noticeable difference in how I experience anxiety and how I can manage my emotions and thoughts in general.
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Eugene Munkinman - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 00:34:03 EST ID:26I97TZE No.131791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131788
A few years ago I got wellbutrin to help me quit smoking. I've had depression and anxiety for years but the first antidepressant I tried was the wellbutrin for the smoking. It made me feel like my brain was trying to be depressed but it just couldn't. It was slightly frustrating. That's all I got.
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Ebenezer Chacklehood - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:28:29 EST ID:zLLvvaE8 No.131795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131788
ime,

buspirone: nothing. took like 4 of them once - felt really weird
gabapentin: good stuff. blocks ltp though, right? fun, but you know. tolerance.
welbutrin: can be IV'd for a nice rush. also helps to quit smoking.

sorry what was the original question?
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John Brodgenatch - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 02:57:19 EST ID:ehez/kVm No.131796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131340
Anxiety. Anxiety is good.

Let's you know you're still fucking up in life as planned and you just need to formulate a plan for your future self so you can be calmed in the present.
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Betsy Dugglestare - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 23:34:21 EST ID:+YalczZS No.131806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131341
Does gabapentin work instantly or do you have to wait for it to build up? Just got prescribed today and I'm supposed to start tapering up to 1800mg a day starting tomorrow.
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Angus Fublingbury - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 11:07:10 EST ID:N9tdpjBZ No.131813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131806
it works pretty instantly. take it with some fatty food to increase absorption. its weird in the sense that it's bioavailability decreases the more you take, so if you really wanna get wavy off it you gotta stagger the doses. but honestly just take it as prescribed and it'll be enough to do quite a fucking lot for your anxiety
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Doris Nanningneg - Fri, 28 Sep 2018 19:53:44 EST ID:VbImtdJo No.131836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131340
If you can get it prescribed to you try propranolol. It doesn't do jack for the mental part of anxiety but it helps with the physical part.
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Phoebe Feckleridge - Sat, 29 Sep 2018 12:16:20 EST ID:iOyrILoY No.131837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131560
This is true, DPH is the only drug I have ever used that made my brain feel "fried" for a long while afterwards.

>>131669
The DPH brain fog had been clearing up, but still I got some piracetam, and have been taking it occasionally. I feel fine now thankfully.
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Nicholas Cammerridge - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 01:02:15 EST ID:7TBO9xpz No.131914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mindfullness meditation practice, unironically
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Emma Winkinsatch - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 13:00:57 EST ID:24u+2S9D No.131916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131806
1800mg sounds alot tbh. Isn't 1800mg of gabapentin equivalent to like 600mg of pregabalin? I can't imagine taking more than 150mg of pregabalin daily. Even that much is barely a "healthy alternative to benzos".

Maybe it's fine if you don't take any other GABAnergics like alcohol. But consider >>131796 . Anxiety is a healthy response to crap as long as it's not interfering with your social life. You want to keep any medical tricks as effective as possible when you need them.
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Sooup 3 - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 22:02:28 EST ID:w0fkdWLG No.131924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jogging and blowing drag queens, it works every time. Just go to the gym.
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Hamilton Huffingstot - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 14:44:43 EST ID:rqo5+LCv No.131927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>131924
How does one jog a drag queen?
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Fanny Sovingstet - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 06:42:36 EST ID:7PNa7Mp8 No.131933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>131927
With a leash, obviously.


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