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UK elections 2017 by Corbyn Critter - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:11:18 EST ID:YG5Or+6H No.391094 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Antifa would support Jeremy Corbyn UK Politics 2017 since he called for taking to the streets right.
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:15:26 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.391244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391243
forgot pic
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:22:11 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.391246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391233
>Minorities are conservatives. They care about race, they care about their wealth, they care about themselves entirely.

Imagine being this fucking reductionist and orientalist and then claiming to have academic credentials.
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Oliver Borrylock - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:20:09 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.391258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391244
>conveniently ignoring the millions of deaths under communism.
>but that wasn't real communism so let's try for real this time.
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:25:46 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.391264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391258
m-m-muh million billion zillions!! Gee, it's not as if there was anything dangerous going on in Europe at the same time? Not as if every major power hadn't intervened in Russia to restore the monarchy immediately after the Revolution, their own war losses be damned?

Nobody is denying Stalin and Mao's atrocities—unless you're citing some propagandist "scholar" like Robert Conquest. But you never see attributed to capitalism the massive death tolls from the proxy wars in Indonesia, Korea, and Vietnam, nor the more recent wars of influence in the Middle East, nor the ongoing death tolls for systemic poverty. "The need of a constantly expanding market for its products chases the bourgeoisie over the entire surface of the globe. It must nestle everywhere, settle everywhere, establish connections everywhere..." To permit commodity extraction, food surplus dumping and bottomless cheap labor, Empire explicitly requires the subjugation of the nations at the periphery, far out of sight and mind of Amerifats and other Westerners except for periodic terrorist blowback. Now the poor trodden-upon Klansmen and UKIP, who don't like immigrants and miss their factory jobs, think they were the first ones to invent nationalism. Too bad!
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:33:38 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.391266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391258
and my original post specifically noted the Stalinist terror and the purges of the Soviet officer class, get your reading comprehension up before bringing around these smug non-arguments that everyone has their mind made up on already.


Trump's #1 source of info admits he's fake news. by Frederick Geshlone - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 22:20:19 EST ID:6T2FD4LE No.390972 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.salon.com/2017/04/17/he-is-playing-a-character-alex-jones-lawyer-says-infowars-host-is-a-performance-artist-and-not-really-a-nutjob/
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Jarvis Blythebanks - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:58:54 EST ID:6POwg5Ik No.391250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391245
Jesus, fucking christ. You're country looks like a bunch of incebiles. Hahaha dang.
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Edward Weshson - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:00:38 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.391251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391242
>Better yet, he is still IMMENSELY popular with 47% of the country.



You mean the percentage who voted for him? Yeah, it wasn't 47% it was 47% of around 50% of the population as most in the US didn't vote. His base is more around 20%
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Martin Blimblebick - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:10:19 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391245
To be fair to Trump it seems to have come as a surprise to some prominent Brexiteers as well.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/minister-for-brexit-davis-davis-eu-european-union-germany-single-market-trade-deals-unaware-mistake-a7136121.html
But ten fucking times... jeez. I'm sure that will be met with renewed confidence from the rest of the free world.
>This also send shivers through BREXIT supporters
A significant percentage of Brits making themselves heard honestly don't really seem to know how the EU works nor have a grasp of international trade. They still seem to be debating each other too. The rest of the EU has maintained a far more clear position.
>And he gave the Chinese version of it, so Trump still doesn't know the truth.
True, but now at least he knows it's slightly more complicated (like healthcare). don't tell Ivanka about camp 22 or there will be war, lol
>This caused Korea to be like "WTF moron?"
They are rather pissed about that...
>and now America is basically a laughing stock
Yeah, America is never really gonna be seen the same again after this tbh...
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Albert Himmerdane - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:29:34 EST ID:zm6+bc30 No.391265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391245

according to the chinese narrative, ancient china was the center of the world, and the emperor owned it all. other nation's leaders (like the kingdom of chosun which later became korea) would visit the emperor and bow their head to the floor (the chinese word for this is where we get the anglicized term "kow-tow") acknowledging his supremacy. the imperial government would confirm this gesture with lavish gifts, basically paying the lesser neighboring states to acknowledge their supremacy. this ancient mentality still seeps through in the collective chinese consciousness, despite the cultural revolution, much like america's frontiersman/cowboy mentality still dominates (though much moreso since america's early days were far more recent). this explains their approach to the south china sea, taiwan, tibet, xinjiang, and other similar situations. in the back of their minds china is the logical nation to be supreme above all (and to be fair, don't most countries see themselves this way?).

so yeah, according to the chinese narrative they basically owned all of asia for hundreds of years, when in reality they were just paying other countries to bow to their emperor lol.
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Albert Himmerdane - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:35:50 EST ID:zm6+bc30 No.391267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391265

this is also the subtle, often-overlooked central theme of the movie Hero. in the movie, jet li is an assassin who does great deeds for the empire, earning him the distinct honor of standing within 10 paces of the emperor, all so he can kill him for conquering his homeland. however, a warrior he encounters tells him he should support the emperor so that "all under heaven" may be united. jet li's character literally accepts the conquest of his people and allows himself to be executed because his chinese upbringing cannot disagree with the logic of "all under heaven" belonging to the emperor


Hypothetical civil war in the USA by Cornelius Billyseg - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 08:11:02 EST ID:NY3ouz89 No.390995 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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‘God has given us another chance’: Speakers at pro-Trump rally urge crowd to prepare for a ‘civil war’
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/god-has-given-us-another-chance-speakers-at-pro-trump-rally-urge-crowd-to-prepare-for-a-civil-war/

Is such a thing possible? The cities have the advantage in terms of population and strategic ports and the countryside has the advantage in terms of firearms per person and strategic resources. Something tells me that rural cousin-fucking neo-confederates have a wet dreams about the thought of murdering them fancy trash-talking city liberals.

How would strategic foreign alliances go into play, who would back the rural faction and who would back the urban faction? What does Canada do? What does Mexico do? I think both would side with the cities or be neutral, depending on their stake in and willingness to engage in the conflict . Britain and the neo-confederates always secretly loved each other, by virtue of being traitors to the union. The far east I am unsure.

What about nuclear bombs? Would these be used at all? There are a fair number in or near urban areas and a fair number in the deep south as well as the north east. Would any be crazy enough to use them in a civil war?

How does Hawaii and Alaska factor into it? What about our allies in Asia, which side do they side with?

Which way would the military split? Military recruitment tends to favor the rural faction, but it also tends to favor low-income areas. Most are stationed in Cali and Texas or the south-east. There is also a divide between black/minority recruits and white recruits.

Would it be another conflict as bloody as the first one, considered the bloodiest war in American history? Pic related, it's the 2016 electoral vote per county weighted by population of the county. I think the conflict might be hard on the cities at first but would quickly turn into entrenched warfare due to their huge population and economic advantages, despite having fewer weapons and less training. Let's face it, the far right in rural areas of the country have had a hard-on for civil war for decades now and have been stockpiling guns and preparing to kill liberal city folk for quite some time. On the other hand, th…
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Samuel Gebberridge - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:32:15 EST ID:KVQJ8U2S No.391255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391230
>In, what has to be the dumbest fucking strategy since Custer said, "Hey, we should fight those Indians,"
>since
>1861-65
>SINCE
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Polly Gumbleson - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:01:49 EST ID:/NQbuQW6 No.391256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391070
carriers dont use oil or fuel, they use nuclear power. They can stay out for like 40 years if need be
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Ernest Blatherlock - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:14:44 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.391261 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391256
Without oil or fuel all they could do is angerly patrol up and down the coast though.
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Albert Himmerdane - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:18:44 EST ID:zm6+bc30 No.391262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391092

Nigga I don't think you know anything about the modern U.S. military. They are conditioned to follow orders, and uphold the united states and its current constitution, "from all enemies foreign and domestic". no sizable military force would break apart from the central command structure of the u.s. military. a small number of individuals may go AWOL, but you sure as shit aren't going to see the military "fracture" or generals "peeling off" lol. if anything the military would just take control. the US military is the most powerful and un-defeatable force in the world, much more than the country itself. it would take unprecedented catastrophe, like the president nuking alabama or something, for there to be even a chance of such a thing
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Albert Himmerdane - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:20:09 EST ID:zm6+bc30 No.391263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391256

the planes need fuel lol without planes aircraft carrier is just "big flat boat"


Distribution of Money by Hannah Blimmlemat - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:13:19 EST ID:EO3ttjr4 No.391090 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there a possible way for the wealthy to help us with the equal distribution of the wealth in the United States?
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Nell Bullerwater - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:04:29 EST ID:cqtGtTEX No.391236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Having the economy controlled by the workers would solve the problem.
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Edward Summlefoot - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:03:30 EST ID:IaepfqX2 No.391252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391232

>Does this sound like equality? Yes, it does. Equality does not mean equal payouts, it just means a level playing field.

Yet the playing field isn't equal. If your neighbour can afford to go to the best private school and you can't, then you don't have equal opportunities:

  1. His education will be better than yours.
  2. He will have access to a much more elite network than you.
  3. He'll have access to more opportunities in career, business and politics than you.
  4. Assuming he doesn't fuck it all up, point 1-3 will apply to his kids as well, who will have more opportunities than your kids. The same applies to his grandchildren, etc.

If this process repeats itself for a generation or two, then you're basically moving into some kind of de-facto aristocracy, where your success in life will depend a lot on the wealth of the family you were born into, and not on your skill.

The only way to ensure that a capitalist society remains truly meritocratic is to have a 100% tax on inheritance and ban for-profit private education.
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Oliver Borrylock - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:17:36 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.391257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391252
>Yet the playing field isn't equal. If your neighbour can afford to go to the best private school and you can't, then you don't have equal opportunities:

Typical. Blame others for your own shortcomings. What about working hard to ensure a future for your children?
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Phyllis Goodman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:49:44 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.391259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391232
>Take a look at Russia today vs the USA today, let me know which one is doing better lol.
Are you retarded? Oh wait, no, you're just X8. The current state of Russia is literally the aftermath of rapacious privatization, under US puppet Yeltsin's shock therapy and voluminous lending from the IMF, virtually free of oversight. Now Russia belongs to the oligarchs and the distinctions between the white, grey and black markets for goods, services, and labor alike are so blurry as to be irrelevant in most circumstances—you pay your rubles and you hope Boss Ivan doesn't get raided this week. Illicit cash outflows are second only to China by total volume. This is what America would look like if the free-market fundamentalists had their way. Opinion polls consistently show that Russians want the old system back, and Putin stays popular in part by appealing to Soviet nostalgia constantly.
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Albert Himmerdane - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:10:33 EST ID:zm6+bc30 No.391260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391097

woah dude. the entire premise of your post is something i've never considered. but on the surface it sounds very logical to me. do you have any articles discussing this sort of topic?


Political Stuckness by William Clirrybanks - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:25:37 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.391238 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have noted a few things that seem relevant to each other -

1 - Polls indicate that 96% of Trump voters would vote for him again. Meaning, he has a pretty impenetrable base.

2 - The most popular politician among Democrats right now is Bernie Sanders. He is not a Democrat though.

4 - The new head of the DNC was reported to think Obama was the reason the election was lost, and not Clinton generally sucking.

Welcome to the four things that will fuck our politics for the next few decades.

Trump, despite all predictions, can simply do no wrong with his supporters. Meanwhile, a man that is extremely popular with the Dems doesn't even belong to that party. And, going by the DNC's recent (in)actions, they think more Clinton is pretty much the solution to everything. Despite Bernie being a far stronger candidate among their own people.

So, we will see the GOP slaughter the Dems next year. Probably even see a few states go red. Mostly because the DNC refuses to do anything but pump the same bullshit neo-liberalism at us. This will result in such an imbalance, that we could see the GOP be the only party on some ballots in some states. Dems being 100% absent on it as they failed to run anyone. This will create a hegemony that will last decades if not more.
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Polly Gollyworth - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:51:45 EST ID:8Jh2i/ky No.391240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That is also why elections matter.

Some trumpists will stop supporting him, but only after a while of actual suffering from a negative impact which his policies have had on their personal lives.
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Edwin Dabberwell - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:27:15 EST ID:UAxOpI6/ No.391247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trump has alienated his most fanatical supporters, the Alt-Right, by attacking Assad. Most of his base doesn't know enough about geopolitics to care, but since he's also backpedaling on immigration (see e.g. how he accepted the deal with Australia to take in thousands of refugees), is in talks with Merkel about a replacement for ttip, broke his promise to brand China a currency manipulator and is by now just another neo-con who might as well hire Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton for top positions in his cabinet, it's only a matter of time until the average normie Trump supporter loses faith in him. Both Tucker Carlson and Ann Coulter have already called him out on his shit.
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Edward Weshson - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:33:01 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.391248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pure FUDD here. What poles? What the hell do you mean Sanders isn't a Democrat? You miscounted. When the fuck did Tom Perez ever say that?
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Frederick Charryfog - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:33:35 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.391249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391247

Wait until he can't take losing any more and we read about Pelosi and Schumer up in his office talking about a Tax Deal.

His supporters heads will explode. Or, conversely, some of them might appreciate any sign of progress. Right now the country is more-or-less exactly how Obama left it, minus a SCOTUS pick.


Putin Did It by Cornelius Blythewater - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 09:03:21 EST ID:MyuDzBUL No.390898 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are you guys' thoughts on this new phenomena of blaming everything on Putin/Russia? It seems to me that Trump's victory has caused the Democrats to absolutely lose their minds. All rationality and logic has been thrown out the window, and the party line has become "Blame Russia." British conspiracy theorist Louise Mensch has been catapulted into stardom because of this, being dubbed a "Russian Expert" by the New York Times, and Liberal media clamoring over her every word.

Is this the death of the Democrats? As a Leftist, this has made it really difficult for me to reconcile with them. Pic related, Louise accusing Antifa of being Russian shills.
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Frederick Charryfog - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:19:57 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.391218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391132

Are you retarded?

Trump: "Wikileaks! I love Wikileaks! Don't we all love Wikileaks!?

Trump Administration: "Arrest Assange! Wikileaks is an agent of a foreign power!"

What in the hell does "Liberals" have anything to do with this you ridiculous person?

Conservatives own every branch of government. You can't blame Liberals any more faggot.
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Martin Blimblebick - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:38:05 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391218
Considering he is wanted for questioning here in Sweden (and we were first) how is this likely to play out? If he is actually convicted of what he's suspected of he will at most get a short sentence in a minimum-security prison. He cannot however be extradited to the USA under current circumstances and Swedish law.

Will Trump bomb us if we refuse to hand him over?
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Charles Bemmlened - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:52:00 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.391222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391221
>Will Trump bomb us if we refuse to hand him over?
No, but he may nuke Denmark.
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Martin Blimblebick - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:12:11 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391222
I would have expected Switzerland.

Reminds me of when Denmark joined the Iraq war, al Qaida threatened Norway and a Swedish consulate was torched. Payback Danefags :)
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Polly Dollerhon - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 17:02:36 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.391235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391221
>Will Trump bomb us if we refuse to hand him over?
It depends on how cheeky you Swedes are about it when you refuse. Try not to bruise his ego, for the sake of the world.


Played like a damn Fiddle: War with Syria by Thomas Fonnercheg - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:54:09 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.390493 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-weighing-military-options-following-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syria/2017/04/06/0c59603a-1ae8-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?utm_term=.ef14adb502bc

>The U.S. military launched 59 cruise missiles at a Syrian military airfield late on Thursday, in the first direct American assault on the government of President Bashar al-Assad since that country’s civil war began six years ago.

Thank God we voted for Trump, who will make sure we never come close to war with Russia!
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Hamilton Sezzleman - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:52:48 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390911
Assad's country is just too close to TV cameras, strategic resources and western countries. Besides, global outrage is rather fickle and can only really focus on one travesty at a time.
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Martha Dartshit - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:38:27 EST ID:zRmVzsZv No.391122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390917
Read the thread you fucking dumbass
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Reuben Brookforth - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:37:38 EST ID:Z5u3SrSH No.391130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391122
Not sure what you're so buttmad about but it looks like you're whining at the wrong person. Maybe pay attention next time so you don't shit up the wrong thread, retard. Nb
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Eugene Dacklewell - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 11:36:12 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391075
That's what happens when you piss off Saudi Arabia and try to drop the USD; you're suddenly considered a 'too-violent' leader and you get a smear campaign thrown your way, and while that smear campaign is still being debunked the US already uses it as ammunition to justify their indirect acts of war.
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Martin Blimblebick - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:16:11 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391215
Well he's allied with Iran (hence why the Saudis hate him) and he has killed a ton of civvies.
>you get a smear campaign thrown your way
I'm sure some media is over-hyping the bad stuff Assad does as well as possibly blaming him for things he is innocent of. I'm sure they also happily pass over Saudi crimes in Yemen.

However, it is simply not credible at this stage to argue that Assad hasn't committed war-crimes on a massive level.

Stick to the second Iraq war for a CIA-lies-narrative. It fits so much better there.


Time for revolt by Soviet Psychonaut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:54:06 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.390492 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the flying fuck
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Barnaby Mabblework - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:35:39 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.391067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391064
No, 4chin is two sites down.
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Soviet Psychonaut - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:47:40 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.391068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391067

Haven't been there in a minute

Oh, well it's my thread so, joke's on you
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Nell Mackledit - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:41:07 EST ID:wPIzNzTk No.391086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391068
Holocaust deniers are some of the dumbest motherfuckeres on the planet
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Hannah Hacklehall - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:56:22 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.391133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391068
It's unnecessary moves like this that make people dismiss you as a racist, SP, not some leftist pavlovian conspiracy. nb
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James Hibberford - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 09:36:36 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.391181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391180
Sweet FUDD there.


In other news... by Molly Dasslenotch - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 14:39:38 EST ID:j0maiPZP No.390559 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/neil-gorsuch-set-ascend-supreme-court-170406164812613.html

Neil Gorsuch is now the next Supreme Court Justice after the senate voted along majority rule rather than 55-45 as tradition.
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Hamilton Sezzleman - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 15:12:48 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391088
*complex questiones
I guess the derp is on me?
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Priscilla Guffingbin - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 17:31:54 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.391096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391088
See they can pass around this image because they can't pass around any that feature his promises to repeal and replace Obamacare, jail Killary, not bomb Syria, or 'drain the swamp.'

He is a moron. You're not wrong.
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Hamilton Sezzleman - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:16:10 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391096
Looking in from the outside he doesn't seem to have achieved much beyond chaos. His executive orders are basically formalized platitudes and he is apparently continuously surprised by the complexity of running the only super-power. Most are happy he hasn't broken anything important yet.
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Doris Muddlepere - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 01:06:26 EST ID:Bp5OqyZ1 No.391134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Fuck Clamblewit - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 08:23:17 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.391179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391134
>make america mexico again
you're welcome to try but keep in mind that the current bet places you "all in"


Democrats Pick Perez, Set To Lose On Purpose All Over Again by Hannah Gizzlelock - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 12:40:16 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.388457 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Establishment-Pick-Tom-Perez-Elected-DNC-Chair-20170225-0006.html
>Former Labor Secretary Tom Perez was elected as the chair of the Democratic National Committee, DNC, on Saturday, defeating Rep. Keith Ellison.
>The son of Dominican immigrants is seen by many as an establishment pick. Receiving support from former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden, Perez supported the Trans-Pacific Partnership, TPP, and believes the 2016 Democratic Primary was not rigged against Sen. Bernie Sanders.
>Perez, who was born and raised in Buffalo, New York, was seen as the preferred choice for Obama and former Democratic Party presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.
>Ellison, the first Muslim elected to the U.S. Congress, was backed by progressives within the party, including Sanders and Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren.
>Prior to Perez's election, members voted to reject a measure that would have restored a ban on corporate lobbyists donating to the party. A number of speakers were present at the vote, urging the party to unify.

So after suffering the biggest and most embarrassing electoral defeat in American history - specifically because they spat all over their progressive wing to embrace the establishment in an anti-establishment election - the Democrats once again choose the corporate establishment over the rank-and-file. Just as it looked like the Sanders candidate would rise on an unexpected tide of enthusiasm, the Clinton candidate slides in at the last moment to snatch everything away, this times with the help of the Israel hasbara squad.

Make no mistake: the Clinton wing of the party would rather lose forever than let this country shift even a little bit to the right. They are losing on purpose, and it is getting obscene.
https://newrepublic.com/article/140847/case-tom-perez-makes-no-sense
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Basil Clummerwone - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:26:21 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.391104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390923

Pretty funny right?

Well end of the day they got their way and they prevented the majority from winning the election. Thank God, too, because look at how great Trump is doing... LOL
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Basil Clummerwone - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 19:28:41 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.391106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388479

Doesn't matter, anyone with half a brain in the democratic party leadership knows two things.

  1. Her own party isn't going to unite behind her

2. There are too many insane conspiracy theories about her for her to have a chance reaching out to centrists or conservatives

It's a waste of time to try running Clinton again because by the time election day rolls around, half of the country will end up believing that she eats babies and runs a pedophile club out of a restaurant again.
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Nigel Paddlefoot - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:12:14 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.391108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391106
this isn't about clinton. the problem is the the party leadership will run the same platform even though the electorate does not like it.
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Ernest Bonkinlidging - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 13:32:53 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.391126 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390923
>What a fucking dumb thing to say.

It's literally why the Founding Fathers of the US chose representative democracy, and and electoral college.

The electoral college wasn't suppose to be a rubber stamp on the states vote, it was designed to keep people like Donald Trump from becoming President. It's a fail.
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Reuben Brookforth - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:54:18 EST ID:Z5u3SrSH No.391131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391126
>It's literally why the Founding Fathers of the US chose representative democracy
That doesn't change the fact that it's a fucking dumb thing to say. Maybe, without the benefit of 300 years of hindsight, it was a slightly less dumb thing to say from the self-interested perspective of the slavers and financiers and hucksters that comprised much of the Founding Fathers.

But for a powerless nobody like you, who will always be considered part of the lowly mob they sought to arbitrarily constrain? It's an incredibly fucking dumb thing to say.


Turkish Referendum by Graham Nuggledeck - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 18:14:34 EST ID:FqtcG9EC No.390888 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tomorrow is the turkish referendum which will decide the future of the so called turkish "democracy". If the people in Turkey votes yes then we will see Erdogan recieve a lot more power than he already has, effectively ending the secular democracy.
Some polls says as much as 51% no. But knowing Erdogan I wouldn't be surprised if there's voter fraud. If he wins we'll have to prepare for some shitty years of neo-ottomanism and pseudo-islamist rule under the fascist party of the AKP.
Erdogan has already consolidated his political position by jailing thousands of members of the political opposition during the failed coup d'état. The president and vice president of the kurdish HDP opposition party has been jailed along with masses of it's members. The leader of another turkish party said he'd resign if the referendum pulls through.
This very relevant as Turkey is a regional power in the M.E and paradoxically a NATO ally.
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Thomas Fillernodge - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:41:19 EST ID:NPfNuNY2 No.391043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391042
fox news proclaimed they would have HANNITY he himself did, said he would be waterboarded to prove their agenda correct. Never happened,
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Thomas Fillernodge - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 04:45:55 EST ID:NPfNuNY2 No.391044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391043
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4bKrjTrsos
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Ian Fingerwill - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:00:33 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.391045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391043
W O R D S A L A D
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Thomas Fillernodge - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:05:28 EST ID:NPfNuNY2 No.391046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391045
>said he would be waterboarded to prove

Whatever the case, hannity said he would allow his-self to be tortured, umm, said on national TV, to prove it to be harmless.
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Sidney Paddlelire - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 18:02:28 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.391062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390889

The coup was engineered by Erdogan himself to create support for strengthening his office.


Why do white people push whiteness on Egyptians? by Ernest Hacklefield - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:37:26 EST ID:e0P84R0i No.391056 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xTKBaIUtqcY
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Augustus Cracklenat - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:21:02 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.391057 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391056
why do the worst posters think their threads need to be on multiple boards?
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Ian Crezzlemore - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 16:11:19 EST ID:NGFmh1BL No.391058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, I can say without even watching your video as a white male aged 25-40 I definitely push my "white" agenda on every single Egyptian fucker there is. Is it really that obvious?
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Hamilton Sezzleman - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 10:45:30 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391057
Because they get the least attention?


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