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ANTIFA by Betsy Burrywud - Mon, 15 May 2017 09:52:55 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.392108 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I see us going back and forth about Antifa all the time. But what's really up with Antifa? What are our real feelings toward Antifa? Can we get some educated opinions about it and have a real discussion on the subject?

Why does Antifa exist? What are they hoping to accomplish? Are their methods acceptable?

Furthermore, I've got a question; is it reasonable for Antifa to exist, or is Antifa pure violent paranoia personified? Like are these people decent human beings, or schizophrenics, or brainwashed, or pawns of the media, or what?
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Rebecca Fucklehood - Sat, 27 May 2017 13:28:28 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392719
I am a poetic kind of guy.

>You can't just throw facts at people, you have to start by speaking their language and finding a way to 'upload' the facts to them

I thought that is what I said but maybe I wasn't so clear.

Sometimes you can't reach people. If you are an adults, you have an obligation to inform yourself. There are those that words alone will not reach, and there are those that will. If one can't handle the emotional impact of being wrong, doesn't matter how 'combatively' their wording is, it's their job to sort through their thoughts and emotions. In a way, debates are a domesticated version of fist fights. It's certainly a step above real fights in the streets. It's up to the person to override their fight or flight response when their worldview is being 'attacked'. A worldview can be 'combated' without is necessarily being person. Many times the war is with their perspective and many link their perspective with their inherent identity. Even so, it's their job to overcome those feelings. The only person that can open someone to change of mind is the individual. The harsh truth is being 'harsh' can raise a conflict in the person and this conflict many times leads to the person being FORCED to analyze their views. I speak from my own experience.
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Nigel Humblefag - Sat, 27 May 2017 14:38:59 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.392723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392716

that comic is fucking retarded.

im not racist but black people commit the most crime and over 50% of murders despite being only 13% of the population.

>>392720

care to rebut any of those facts or are you just here to virtue signal and spew empty sarcastic condescension?
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Rebecca Fucklehood - Sat, 27 May 2017 14:52:34 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392723
>im not racist but black people commit the most crime and over 50% of murders despite being only 13% of the population.

What factors into this in your humble opinion? Are they genetically inferior?

Are whites inferior since the overwhelming majority of serial killers whites?

Care to refute the links I posted? The onus is on you to prove their inferiority.
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Nathaniel Honeyspear - Sat, 27 May 2017 15:10:23 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.392727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392726
>> the overwhelming majority of serial killers whites?
I agree the other guy's claim that black people commit the most crime is bunk. However, for the sake of factual accuracy, I just want to point out that the oft repeated meme that most serial killers are white is false. The proportion of serial killers among race generally matches the proportion of race in the general population.

What this can tell us is that serial killing is a kind of inherent possible unpleasant development possible in any population, but of course normal, more simple kinds of crime (like theft) affect poor people disproportionately, which is why you see skewed numbers there.
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Rebecca Fucklehood - Sat, 27 May 2017 15:20:37 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392727
Hmm, interesting. I can concede to what you claim. Perhaps it's due, in part, to popularizing the meme. Not 100% yet but I am probably wrong and I'll digest some more information on it when I can.

>but of course normal, more simple kinds of crime (like theft) affect poor people disproportionately

I forgot what the affect was called, but those living in unattended environments causes those that try to escape their lot in life will be peer-pressured and limited for improvement. An example is clearing out the debris near one's home only to have neighbors bring it back to where it was before the clean-up. A viscous cycle.

Also, that other fellow doesn't realize most food stamp recipients are whites, and those on the system overwhelmingly don't abuse it; As in, it's based on need rather than laziness or greed or abuse.


The Muslim League and other shady organizations by Oliver Hurrypun - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:33:46 EST ID:lGv/X/N+ No.392407 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been wanting to talk about this, let me preface by saying I'm a Muslim so this isn't coming from a place of bigotry and hate.

Political organizations like Louis Farrakhan's Muslim League have done a lot of damage to the image of Islam, if you're a devout Muslim who wants to maintain the universal perspective this is evident.

Organizations like ISIS are a given, you have to be pretty fucking dense and hateful to think ISIS represents Islam but let's talk about these less in your face organizations (relatively less offensive. Relatively).

Malcolm X is widely seen as a black rights activist who went off the deep end into anti-white racism. What a lot of people don't know is this was due to him listening to Louis Farrakhan's twisted definition of Islam where black people are the superior race. Malcolm broke ties with Farrakhan later in his life after his hajj to Mecca made it obvious people of all races, white people included, were Muslim.

The damage was done however and X died a symbol of the Muslim black man lashing out at the white man for all the racial wrongs of previous generations and present malcontents.

This is something I regularly get as a white Muslim, from black or brown people. They tell me I "can't" be Muslim because I'm white. While I know this isn't true and isn't Islam, there's a huge amount of people, calling themselves Muslims or hating it from a distance, who assume this is basically true about Islam. It's the same on both ends of the spectrum.

Muhammad said;
""There is no superiority for an Arab over a non-Arab, nor for a non-Arab over an Arab. Neither is the white superior over the black, nor is the black superior over the white -- except by piety.""
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Fucking Brupperpog - Sat, 27 May 2017 11:31:59 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392694
>brave out the famines and drought that it causes in its wake
Short of an all-out war that prevents the planting of crops, there's not going to be a famine.
You need things like terrible central planning, unrestrained capitalism, or major disasters for food production to stop.
None of those are specific to the left.

Pic somewhat related, you don't want conservative capitalists who believe poverty is caused by immorality in charge during a famine.
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Reuben Pannergold - Sat, 27 May 2017 12:13:24 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.392715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392692
>picture is from a site trying to brand antifa a terrorist group by juxtapositioning them with ISIS. Because appearances, not ideology is what defines a movement.
And yet the American right really, really doesn't like it when you do it to them.
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Nigel Humblefag - Sat, 27 May 2017 14:42:19 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.392724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392694

cool fantasy bro. sad delusional faggot.
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Nigel Humblefag - Sat, 27 May 2017 14:45:50 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.392725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392692

>we both hate western civilization? check. we both gravitate to unrealistic ideologies? check. we both justify violence against people espousing different views? check. et fucking cetera.
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Hugh Mabberbury - Sat, 27 May 2017 15:12:29 EST ID:LdbqqAMo No.392728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392724
What?


Ramzpaul by anon - Sat, 27 May 2017 13:29:38 EST ID:zFzMSPLC No.392722 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys. Was wondering what you think of Ramzpaul?
Satire guy, pokes fun at the establishment. Anybody watch? Here's a few more interesting ones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TH9tl64-E-0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHjKCq9fZEc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pO3dOMrat8


Meme-spewing retards from the future's /k/ and /pol/ shot 5 BLM protesters in Minnesota by Walter Fuckingwater - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:11:59 EST ID:JPD6Q+hn No.391469 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-man-gets-15-years-for-shooting-5-black-lives-matter-protesters/?
>Minnesota man 4 ch /k/ + /pol/ poster gets 15 years for shooting 5 Black Lives Matter protesters

>Video of the shooter on his way to the shooting: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec8_1448421489
>Unironically filming yourself talking about "dindus" and /pol/, and baneposting, and loli, before going to shoot 5 black people and ruining everyone's lives including your own
>your final sentence to the camera is "stay white!"
>All of this is entered into court evidence
>Along with months and months of texts of shitposting to friends about black people
>Went with a jacket with a /k/ patch with Pepe as the emblem
>Went around asking protesters to "culturally enrich" him
>Him at the protest going around antagonising people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3gc91IpFE

>His lawyer UNIRONICALLY tried to argue his brain was not fully developed at 22 and he had no idea about black people or their lives when he went to the protests that day

>Only got 3 years per person shot, less if he gets out on parole
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Fucking Gonderwell - Sat, 27 May 2017 03:38:33 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392680
>>392687
Look, if you want to doubt the court's decision, that's fine. But you're opening a can of emotional worms here where you're just going to pull into question every decision that you don't like for some reason.

But I know how you feel. We had a political murder in my country in 2002, and it's common knowledge that the establishment at the time was very happy it happened. The perpetrator received a slap on the wrist. That, and similar cases have led me to question the courts as well.

But you can't say it's a sure thing. You just don't have the evidence to back it up. And a strong suspicion doesn't count.

>>392683
Well, I'm sure it's not *your* left that they represent. But in general, the media have a left wing slant. I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin. Personally I don't believe in spontaneous outrage, certainly not in this case. The stereotype of American police as racist and triggerhappy is way older than the Zimmerman case.
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Polly Honeybanks - Sat, 27 May 2017 06:17:08 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392695
You're ridiculous, child like naive objections is cute, but you clearly have no idea what your talking about. Especially when it comes to this case.

Also, appeals to authority are a logical fallacy.
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Polly Honeybanks - Sat, 27 May 2017 06:32:21 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392702
**naive objectivism
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Hamilton Dullerbeg - Sat, 27 May 2017 10:23:31 EST ID:glUT7SYB No.392708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392695
>
Well, I'm sure it's not *your* left that they represent. But in general, the media have a left wing slant. I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin. Personally I don't believe in spontaneous outrage, certainly not in this case. The stereotype of American police as racist and triggerhappy is way older than the Zimmerman case.

>the media
>the AMERICAN media
>the goddamn jolly african-american hating heavy metal hating jesus christ cocksucking drugs hating media
>left

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking retarded? How many fucking pipes of crack did you fucking smoke before you shat that shard of crystalized retardation all over the internet? Holy fucking shit jolly african-american, what is wrong with you? Get your shit together Tyrone!
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Fucking Brupperpog - Sat, 27 May 2017 11:15:40 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392695
>in general, the media have a left wing slant
lolno our media is controlled by babyboomers and conservative gen Xers who feel threatened by hoodies and that newfangled rap music.
The primary viewers of cable news is babyboomers and conservative gen Xers, hence why Fox gets the highest ratings.

>I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin.
They ran it because there was controversy. Every week or two an unarmed man gets murdered by police or something similar, and like half the time he's black.

The media might mention it in passing, everyone says it's terrible and/or we don't know what happened and should wait for the investigation to find the cop feared for his life and doesn't need to go to trial, but there's no real controversy.

This story however fell right in the fault line where both sides felt theirs was defensible.
The story wasn't chosen because it was a good case for the narrative either side wanted to push, it was one of the least clear-cut cases for any narrative involved.
It was chosen because both sides media are driven by viewership, and viewers respond well to controversial shit.


Coup D'Etat in Germany by James Fongerbidge - Wed, 10 May 2017 05:48:18 EST ID:xzKs8o9I No.391847 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm positive that there is going to be Coup d'Etat in Germany. If in 2017 another politician who is soft on immigration wins the election. There is going to be a Coup d'Etat in Germany by the military. It could happen sooner than the election.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/german-soldiers-false-flag-arrests-refugees-assassinate-plot-far-right-left-wing-politicians-terror-a7726676.html

France has a longer history of immigration from various countries. I was semi-surprised that Macron defeated Le Pen by such a large margin. However France has far stronger liberal tradition than Germany and has been home to large number of immigrants since the nineteenth century. Germany has only had large numbers of immigrants following the Second World War and the migrant crisis has put an unprecedented amount of foreigners into the very insular nation that is Germany.

Point being the shit is going to pop.
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Isabella Nenningnock - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:41:41 EST ID:yqYD8ups No.392488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392450
No, he meant to make a sweeping generalisation about whatever country you're from...
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Fucking Gonderwell - Fri, 26 May 2017 20:35:11 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know, I don't care about the back and forth about immigration anymore. I don't see the advantage of our current model of immigration and I think it's undeniable that it's lead to some problems. I don't consider the policy to be worth the trouble, and want to amend it through democratic action.

My problem is that this desire is routinely cockblocked, sometimes legally, sometimes illegally. And if democracy is up for discussion if it irks the ideology of people with a lot of power, then it's not functioning very well. The left seems completely committed to mass immigration to the point where it's been frustrating our politics for years. Politics is the art of compromise, and it's time to fucking finally compromise on this. Yeah, people won't like it. Tough shit, welcome to the club.

And if you think your ideology is more important than the democratic system, you're legit closing the book on a chapter of Western history.
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Alice Pazzlehock - Fri, 26 May 2017 22:13:54 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.392679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392670
Neither side WANTS to do anything about it- it's all sabre rattling.

The left sees this as a civil rights issue. The right, namely the politicians and business owners, sees cheap labor and both sides see free money from taxation. Both are correct.

The only people who really want to take action are the ignorant folks who get mad at every Fox news story and all the fake news on social media (for what it's worth, our president falls into this category). It won't elections, so the right is pandering to them while largely maintaining status quo.

... And the status quo is really working out for us as a country.
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Fucking Gonderwell - Sat, 27 May 2017 03:42:43 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392679
I'm talking about Europe here, not the US. If European countries adopted a US style immigration system, that would adress a lot of the concerns a lot of people have about the immigration system.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Sat, 27 May 2017 04:19:29 EST ID:1GU7gPDe No.392697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392079
Of course, that's because they have no understanding of the material roots of Salafist takfirism, a fundamentally modernist movement within Islam that does not predate the 20th century. Instead they embarrass themselves by pretending to be experts on Islamic jurisprudence. Framing the (inherently geopolitical) conflict playing out today between bourgeois democracy and takfirism as a "war of ideologies" is nothing but apology for the sword of empire.


WTF is wrong with Trumpkins? by George Woddlehudge - Wed, 24 May 2017 16:03:36 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392552 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I like to drink regularly at this local bar. Cool bar. Friends with the staff and other regulars. I really like it.

One rule though...NO POLITICS AT THE BAR. That is the rule.

Anywho, this Trumpkin comes in the other night, and immediately singles out this guy sitting at the end of the bar. Now, I know this guy a bit and he is an out gay man. And it is pretty obvious unless your gaydar has utterly failed.

Trumpkin gets this guy in his sights, and out of the blue starts picking a fight with the guy about if he likes Trump or not. Amazingly, a gay man living in New England DIDN'T LIKE TRUMP! Shocking...I know....

Anyways, Trumpkin is trying to obviously start shit, and the bartender tries to defuse things. She is all, "no politics at the bar please..." Trumpkin mumbles something and goes out for a smoke.

10 minutes later he rages back in just peppering Gay Guy At End Of Bar (Let's call him...Gaybe for short,) with questions. Top among them was, "How can you judge him by what he said once?" and "That is just liberal media lies."

Gaybe is like, "Ummm...didn't this end?" Trumpkin just starts ramping up faster and faster and getting all agitated. At this point most of the bar was interested to see how this would end. Anyways, the Trumpkin was politely ejected in the end, but not before he ended up screaming at everyone.

A couple of observations that fucking baffle me...
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Archie Wicklepin - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:38:03 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392656
I forget the the exact details, but it was around 250-300 million which is about 650-750 million after inflation... So, basically a billion dollar inheritance alongside the priceless connections his father passed on to his son before he died.
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Archie Wicklepin - Fri, 26 May 2017 14:39:58 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392654
More reaction by Republicans against the hated, anger and violence of liberals:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/24/greg-gianforte-fox-news-team-witnesses-gop-house-candidate-body-slam-reporter.html

That'll teach that journalist for asking a politician why he supports a bill that received a low rating. Their hate facts need to be body slammed into cohesion.
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Charles Pockstock - Fri, 26 May 2017 16:09:53 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.392662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well with X8 banned, I guess this board needed some new shitposters to take his place.
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Cornelius Blarringstedge - Fri, 26 May 2017 21:04:44 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392659
And yet that fucker still won.

Fuck off, Montana....
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gianforte-wins - Sat, 27 May 2017 02:07:01 EST ID:5kKDAT8o No.392691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392674
Early voting which was attacked when it suited them suddenly becomes popular.

After the incident voters still voted for him. what gets me is the violence against perceived liberals as being somehow strong, heroic, the mindless BS that comes along with it. Even the obvious lies that even a child could figure out is not right.

He could though possible go to jail. I mean, this isn't a normal thing to do. Especially with media all over the place. Fox or he cancelled his interview.

Like limbaugh said, tired of carrying the water for the Republican party, fox news
doesn't have it on easy street anymore. Nor does any right-wing support organizations. They actually have to think about where they should stand, morally. Or just as well disregard negative activity as usual as if these things do not matter to the future of the Republican party, politics, etc.


The Fall of the United States of America by Rebecca Crappergold - Mon, 22 May 2017 20:46:39 EST ID:T9Aai84I No.392502 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Every empire has had its run throughout history. Rome, Egypt, China, the Mongols, Aztec, Maya, Inca, British, French, German, American, etc.

What do all of the empires so far preceding the US have in common? They waxed and then waned. Their greatness subsided to being average, or in some cases to total disarray and poverty. Now I am a proud American, but you cannot deny the country is in decline in almost every measurable regard (except muh GDP). Outrageously overpriced and low quality healthcare, shit tier education, complete lack of and overall disregard for environmental sustainability, class/race tensions, wealth disparity among the highest in human history, gerrymandering being the standard state of affairs, archaic federalist institutions (e.g. electoral college) which can supersede the public mandate, militarization of police in almost every district, privatized prison industry with egregiously disproportionate ratio of prisoners to citizens (and i won't even get started with the racial disparities among inmates), food and product safety laws that are laughable in most of the civilized world, a foreign policy that basically consists of anally raping any foreign entity that doesn't bow to u.s. interests (and then wondering why they don't want to be buddies 20-40 years later), massive epidemic surveillance of all u.s. citizens that makes orwell's predictions look like a pleasant bed time story, and the cherry on top of the cake of shit is mister Cheeto himself.

So I simply ask, in light of all this torrential shit being mainlined into the bloodstream of America, what does the future hold for this uniquely wonderful and uniquely hideous nation? Will we one day become the vassal state to another country? If so, whom? If America degrades into obese illiteracy land, who will assume top dog status? Russia? China? a wildcard like Germany? South Korea? Canada?

Please, and I know this is probably futile to ask on /pol/, but let's not turn this into a "LOL FUCKING AMERIFATS ARE SO STOOPID" thread, but rather a political discussion on the current state of America's status as a global superpower and rational extrapolations as to its ability to maintain such a position.
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Frederick Sarringdit - Fri, 26 May 2017 09:19:29 EST ID:uW9KWJtY No.392635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392621
>Islamic terrorism is a problem right now, but it's only gonna get worse, they're infiltrating every country
the terrorists won. not by infiltrating countries, but by scaring ignorant people like you to the point where you believe any fake news conspiracy about them. you got trolled, hard.
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Matilda Grimham - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:02:30 EST ID:Q+UAzH/d No.392653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392635
This, so much this. I'm constantly amazed that people who think they're so much better than "zomg the terrorists" play right into their hands.
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Archie Wicklepin - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:41:08 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392653
In many ways, we are better than the terrorists. At least our nation has had the resilience to go through to growing pains of expanding individual liberties. Yes, we are better than Saudi Society. Objectively.
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Hannah Cebbleford - Fri, 26 May 2017 17:44:25 EST ID:HljegQTP No.392663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392621

You probs didn't get banned because you dissed Islam, but because we've had so many shitposters (not in the sense that I disagreed with them, but in the sense that they only posted fake infographics, 4chon Pepes and generally posted like they were 15 and only in threads about Trump or Muslims). More of a knee-jerk reaction on part of the mods than legit thinking being against Islam = white supremacism. I thought you were one of those cunts myself, and I'm a leftist who doesn't like Islam at all (or any religion for that matter).

That said, your post was dumb. There won't be an Islamic Empire just because some batshit insane jihadists say so (they say and believe a lot of stupid shit, as you probably already know). They only managed to create their 'caliphate' in the first place because Iraq and Syria were so weak at the time. You could make the case that demographic changes will over time enable them to do so in European countries with enough immigration, but you already see European governments restraining immigration because they realize that it's been destabilizing.

You've bought into alt-right rhetoric.
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Martin Wacklechure - Fri, 26 May 2017 18:12:28 EST ID:EkRX+tDd No.392665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392635

constant mass murder isnt trolling.


Mao Zedong on education by Isabella Wenningshit - Tue, 09 May 2017 16:54:10 EST ID:FvS7gpUy No.391833 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Proof Mao was /ourguy/ and not the "ebil dictator" the Amerifat education system paints him as.

>Our present method of conducting examinations is a method for dealing with the enemy, not a method for dealing with the people. It is a method of surprise attack, asking oblique or strange questions. This is still the same method as the old eight-legged essay. I do not approve of this. It should be changed completely. I am in favour of publishing the questions in advance and letting the students study them and answer them with the aid of books.

>For instance, if one sets twenty questions on the Dream of the Red Chamber, and some students answer half of them and answer them well, and some of the answers are very good and contain creative ideas, then one can give them 100 per cent. If some other students answer all twenty questions and answer them correctly, but answer them simply by reciting from their textbooks and lectures, without any creative ideas, they should be given 50 or 60 per cent. At examinations whispering into each other’s ears and taking other people’s places ought to be allowed. If your answer is good and I copy it, then mine should be counted as good. Whispering in other people’s ears and taking examinations in other people’s names used to be done secretly. Let it now be done openly. If I can’t do something and you write down the answer, which I then copy, this is all right. Let’s give it a try.

>We must do things in a lively fashion, not in a lifeless fashion. There are teachers who ramble on and on when they lecture; they should let their students doze off. If your lecture is no good, why insist on others listening to you? Rather than keeping your eyes open and listening to boring lectures, it is better to get some refreshing sleep. You don’t have to listen to nonsense, you can rest your brain instead.
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Emma Clogglestone - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:50:13 EST ID:T9Aai84I No.392500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391833

Sounds like he had about the same sentiment as Pink Floyd's The Wall

"no dark sarcasm in the classroom... pouring their derision on anything we did..."

Yeah that's a nice sentiment, but at the end of the day, a proper education REQUIRES a lot of memorization of facts, and standardized testing of said facts. Call it dry, or "stifling of creativity" or whatever, but fuck you. There's plenty of creative and artistic outlet in the modern world, we don't need to sit on pillows and play guitar while we learn chemistry. You can't write a story about how to do calculus. You can't recite poetry to complete a physics problem. Armchair philosophy does not replace historical fact.

Also,

>If your answer is good and I copy it, then mine should be counted as good.

describes everything that is wrong with PRC today.
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Lillian Chillerdudge - Tue, 23 May 2017 05:12:19 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.392510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392500
>a proper education REQUIRES a lot of memorization of facts, and standardized testing of said facts

Finland has the best education system in the world, and they would disagree with you. Rote learning and standardised testing are bad methods of teaching which actually hamper the ability of many children to learn.
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Martin Deblingcocke - Tue, 23 May 2017 18:51:00 EST ID:wHwlCrNC No.392528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392500
>You can't write a story about how to do calculus. You can't recite poetry to complete a physics problem.
You absolutely can do those things.
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Doris Warringworth - Wed, 24 May 2017 00:36:56 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392528
While someone can demonstrate their understanding of and ability to practice calculus and physics in a poem or story, I feel like that's one of the harder ways to do so.
Like if they're able to do so, they'd have no problem at all demonstrating it in more conventional ways.

Also, for most teachers, the grades given to poems and stories reflect how the teacher feels about the particular student more than it does the quality of the paper.
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John Pammerspear - Fri, 26 May 2017 06:12:38 EST ID:HN3b59hd No.392634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392533
>Also, for most teachers, the grades given to poems and stories reflect how the teacher feels about the particular student more than it does the quality of the paper.

How are the sweeping generalizations working out there for you bud?


Murray Bookchin by Sidney Parryway - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:19:52 EST ID:YQmdjdSy No.392373 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you feel about Murray Bookchin? He is a notable contemporary philosophy, particularly as it is his ideas that have inspired the dialectical naturalist philosophy of the Kurds in Northern Syria, as well as their directly democratic political system.
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Sidney Parryway - Fri, 19 May 2017 12:32:25 EST ID:YQmdjdSy No.392394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392383
top fucking kek
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Esther Brenningnet - Sat, 20 May 2017 06:55:10 EST ID:FvS7gpUy No.392420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
His viewpoint and system isn't one I share (Im mostly a leftcom), but pragmatically, his shit would be the easiest leftist ideology to convince the Western masses of, bar none. I have a lot of respect for him and his ideas, especially because he is trying to break with many of the ideological dogmas and barriers that keep the left stagnating.

>>392383
tankie pls leave
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Priscilla Crollyson - Thu, 25 May 2017 13:40:06 EST ID:00xiyFwB No.392600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>his shit would be the easiest leftist ideology to convince the Western masses of, bar none.
That's just it. The Western "left" nowadays seems like it wants to appeal to a minority of people, rather than build a genuinely revolutionary mass movement. As if the masses of Western people care about things like post-modernism, fringe university social justice "politics", hating the West qua post-colonialism and anti-imperialism, etc...
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Priscilla Crollyson - Thu, 25 May 2017 13:40:52 EST ID:00xiyFwB No.392601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392600
meant for >>392420
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Cyril Greenhall - Fri, 26 May 2017 00:14:55 EST ID:h5TaIGNn No.392617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392600
Being unaware of positive actions and strategy of direct aid through non-authoritarian means, doesn't mean they aren't happening. For examples, there are Solidarity Networks in many US cities. They target a landlord or boss with specific demands from an individual who has been wronged, using bad publicity to get them to acquiesce. The individual the Solidarity Network is campaigning for is required to participate on the non-hierarchical council to make decisions together.

Other examples are:
  • Free Stores where people bring things and take things, or volunteer their time, or do skillshares.
  • recently formed popular assemblies are springing up, which are inclusive, regardless of ideology. Not only in the US but throughout Europe as well.
  • The Black Cross does prison solidarity work, writing letters mostly. Considering the US has the largest prison population in the history of the world, its surprising this hasn't been a major focus in the near-past.
  • There's also village building convergences, which bring people together to build a useful thing in their city.
  • Medic collectives, which were more numerous during the summit-hopping days, host workshops to train people in basic first-aid/cpr, but with a focus on protests. Anarchists with medical training are first responders during an incident in public (obviously their not the only ones).
  • Cop-watching
  • Self-managing houseless encampments, a few use General Assemblies to make decisions.
  • Food Not Bombs serves free food regularly, there's a few spinoffs too.

This only scratches the surface, although the above are more prominent.
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Are Americans Too Dumb To Politics? by David Dartdale - Sat, 13 May 2017 15:31:32 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392039 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Legit question here -

So, I live in America and of course our small city is run by the usual corrupt assholes. Infrastructure is being allowed to rapidly degrade, and the streets in my neighborhood are literally filled with massive, tire ripping potholes.

Anyway, we were promised new streets this year by our perennially elected mayor, whom then immediately, and admittedly, took that cash and gave it to a developer who "needed to be bailed out."

OK....fuck.

So, I decided I would fix the potholes myself. Because, fuck...they need fixing. I own a house here. I need to protect my curb appeal.

I asked on a community FB page for help. Even a $10 donation buys a decent amount of patch. Or manual labor. Whatever.

And then the fucking world exploded.

All of a sudden I was "attacking" the mayor (never even mentioned them.) I was trying to "steal money from the city," (not sure how that works...) and best of all, "If you fix this, the city will never do the job. And we will be forced to bear the costs." (Ummmm....take it up with the city?)
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Albert Pickstock - Wed, 17 May 2017 12:34:15 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392169
Very true.

Especially with our current era where the left and the right look to consolidate power away from the voters.
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Betsy Surryworth - Sun, 21 May 2017 12:59:35 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.392470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392039
Shit, sorry OP but not only didn't I put my responses to you in the wrong thread I didn't notice until now. >>392195 & >>392198 were meant for you. Do watch "Brazil" it's much like what you describe.
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Reuben Pablingsut - Wed, 24 May 2017 02:28:10 EST ID:JgzsFcap No.392534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We absolutely are. I really don't see how anyone can question this. Most Americans when it comes to politics are literally rock fucking stupid.
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George Woddlehudge - Wed, 24 May 2017 17:58:32 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392534
Yeah. It is pretty unbelievable.
Yet, it is reality.

TRUMP 2024!!!
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Alice Bellystetch - Thu, 25 May 2017 19:59:51 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.392609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's actually kinda hard to refute when one of the main arguments to defend Trump is that Hillary would have been worse. The impopularity of elected bodies and democratic institutions along with the voter turnout alone would be enough to describe a broken democracy.

Not that Americans are unique in having to work out kinks in their democratic system. Who said it was supposed to be easy? (besides trump)


White Genocide? by Matilda Dullerted - Fri, 05 May 2017 22:34:08 EST ID:2VNuaTnk No.391635 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay I've seen white genocide posted on other places over the past 5 years, and I've never bought into it because of stormfags. Never bought into it. Never believed in white supremacy. I still don't.

But between the racial politics from leftists about white people and their fanatic desire to bring in as many reproducing non-white people as possible to replenish Europe's aging population (while saying overpopulation is a huge problem), I'm convinced there is a desire to punish the Caucasian ethnicity for its sins on the world. It's like a backwards socio-political eugenics movement to create a raceless society where everyone is one color.

I reached this conclusion when Bill Nye had that one-child-policy segment on his show. Then it clicked.

Tell me this doesn't make sense.
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Frederick Nocklekere - Wed, 24 May 2017 17:56:28 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.392562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392558
I think you seriously missed something here...
Explain to me how white autists who are too afraid to have sex with feminists and thus never reproduce leads to a white master race, again? It, in fact, leads to the opposite...
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Barnaby Turveyridge - Wed, 24 May 2017 19:28:57 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.392565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392551
>roughly equivalent to masturbating with a cheese grater
Why the actually you're proving my point???

Why do you think so many white men end up going to other countries mainly asia and buying their wives? because they dont talk back, they dont have any dreams or goals and infact if they get dreams or do talk back the relationship is over.

Women have changed and men dont want to be with white women because its "roughly equivalent to masturbating with a cheese grater" and they "know this".

>then no man of any race should want anything to do with them
should but rarely happens, guys from other races mostly love white women because they are white women.

White men need to grow up and stop holding onto the fantasy that white women are going to be their housewives, modernity has changed what it means to be a woman and some white guys have grown up and accepted the modern woman.
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Betsy Monderfack - Wed, 24 May 2017 23:33:58 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392565
They basically want a mommy/slave. They don't want an equal relationship or be challenged by someone that may be smarter than they are. Some men can't take any conflict to their ego.
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Jarvis Cirringchon - Wed, 24 May 2017 23:58:23 EST ID:EiF/mHBu No.392585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392558
You know that Hitler never used the term master race right? This is what he actually said on the matter, look it up if you don't believe me.
>Volk und Rasse ist nicht dasselbe.
"Folk and race are not the same.”
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Molly Chazzledick - Thu, 25 May 2017 00:49:26 EST ID:KBkCIVWm No.392587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392562

How does SWIM overcome the fear of feminists? Whenever I see a woman with short cut pastel hair and tattoos I am afraid that she is going to attack me and berate me, even though I could easily defeat her in a variety of real time strategy games.


Lets talk about the Vietnam War by Jenny Fiffingstad - Fri, 19 May 2017 18:42:38 EST ID:cE6EowEG No.392406 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>There were never again come a time where we put ourselves to the same degree of self destruction we put ourselves thru compared to the people who spent the most of their lives in Vietnam

Vietnam sounds fucking horrible

Thank you based Nixon for ending that shitty war that happened during the Kennedy/Johnson years.
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Nigel Fogglewurk - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:09:25 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ty Mike Gravel for forcing the White Houses' hand to end the war.
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Shit Punkintetch - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:09:24 EST ID:MqC/+Wc8 No.392435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whos ready to get false flagged into invading Syria and getting drafted?

wooo.
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Ian Drucklebot - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:55:03 EST ID:kMHRWa3R No.392437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392423

It's more than the CIA, which is in fact useful when shit comes down to brass tacks.

It's the general militarized culture of the US that's the problem. Compare for example the US general populace reaction to the Iraqi war, or hell even Afghanistan, to how the populace of allied European countries was. Here in Europe the reaction was basically "Again? Jesus. Well sure I guess", together with the vocal no-war protests. I clearly remember you Americans being gung ho about it and ended up electing Bush for a second term while at it.

You just love war. That's the simple answer. Until Americans understand how it is to get their neighborhoods bombed, I see no end to this military adventurism.
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Hugh Blatherwell - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:12:36 EST ID:h5TaIGNn No.392475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392437
Largest anti-war protests in the history of the US (and the world) were against the invasion of Iraq. There was enormous opposition here in the States, little good it did. Somehow the media's narrative contorted into if you oppose the war you don't support the troops, then the anti-war opposition fizzled out and a bunch of people became disillusioned with protests since it didn't stop anything.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Wed, 24 May 2017 05:10:41 EST ID:1GU7gPDe No.392537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392406
Nixon was such a stand-up guy that he only waged two completely illegal wars in Laos and Cambodia.
>>392437
Respectfully, I think this is a relatively inadequate analysis of American militarism, it has to be explained with recourse to material conditions other than just a general popular jingoism.


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