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Fish hook theory by Samuel Claybanks - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:12:57 EST ID:Ln/AmOJE No.396913 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your thoughts on the fish hook theory?
It states that people who label themselves 'centrist' or 'classical liberals' almost always end up apologizing for, sympathizing with, and supporting the far right.

I think there's a lot of truth to that, just look at any 'objective'/rational/skeptic youtubefag. Their mortal enemy is always "THE LEFTISTS", not 'all authoritarianism' that they claim to oppose.

Libertarians are a perfect example of this too. They used to hate the left and right equally but have now entirely sided with the far right (just look at ex-libertarians like Stefan Molyneux).
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Cornelius Drunningson - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 20:23:57 EST ID:EHzS8TdG No.397284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397275

Lol right because this neo liberal society with colonial values and approaches towards freedom is working out so wellll with ww3 approaching and jackboots rising all over the world. Fuck freedom of speech I want freedom from slavery.
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Sophie Gebbleham - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:08:21 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.397287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397279

Dotard? Really? ''Societal pressure at large'' ????? How is that not analogous to protests and antifa rioting? Im so confused man, but keep playing the terminology game.

The far right can never and will never come into power again. Again you're fucking delusional if you think something similar to Jim Crow segregation or mass KKK membership will ever happen. The ideology is more endangered than polar bears. Giving them a platform to speak will not change this.

I find it absolutely hilarious you think im a trump supporter simply because I hate antifa. Even more hilarious is you think im afraid of antifa. Ah yes the vast legions of 110 pound demi-queer nano-wolfkin limp wrists really frighten me.

What frightens me is my generation of voters eventually taking and holding office. It should scare people that people like Ben Shapiro needs armed guards to talk about how much he hates abortions and loves the Torah.

What frightens me is a generation of people who absolutely cannot tolerate words and wrong-think.

People like you scare me bro. Not in physically imposing way, but a wow, this person doesnt get it kind of way. And theirs lots like you.
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Nicholas Bollernudge - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:27:13 EST ID:x4CtdNXR No.397288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397287
>societal pressure = protests + antifa
really? that's the only way you can think of to compel society against certain ideological persuasions? that's pretty sad of you man. think a little harder.

journalistic exposure, "voting with your wallet," awareness campaigns, townhall discussions, documentaries, etc., these are all ways to influence society and exert pressure against ideological groups.

pull yourself out of your bootlicker mentality man, you don't have to just do everything your overlords tell you.
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Sophie Gebbleham - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:50:04 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.397289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397288
The most nothing post ive ever seen. Again and again you over-define your own original passing phrase that could honestly mean fucking anything to look somehow intellectually superior.

You play shenanigans instead of actually directly responding to what I said, instead insisting a small misnomer invalidates everything I have responded to you with.

Come on bro
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Priscilla Brumbleway - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 01:20:43 EST ID:Pl8MGosB No.397290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397287

The far right are in power....
Did you forget that Russia and the USA exist? Just because hilldawg tweeted about things most the population likes doesn't mean she represents those people it means she's playing politics with the times. You're saying the far right will never have power when the last American election was between some of the most far right neo liberal figureheads lmfao. Trump said he'd wipe North Korea off the map. Insane right? Well hilldawg once said we can obliterate Iran. The far right are in power my dude,despite the global populations of the world overwhelmingly being considered "left leaning".


The Nazification of the future by Alice Honeystone - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:40:05 EST ID:Bi4mNYuY No.397212 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is the level of hate on the future indicative of the growth of authoritarian right politics in society?

I'm a regular poster here, but naturally I found out about the future first, through a friend back in 2009. I posted pretty heavily on there in 2011-2012, and my main board was /mu/. I still went back with some regularity until just recently. I now feel no motivation to post because of how extreme and widespread the hate and racism is on there.

Before /pol/ existed, the racism on that site was almost purely for shock value. When /pol/ started, a lot of the hate on the board was still ironic, clearly just done to offend people. Then with Trump, /pol/ became the most well known board on the site. However, racist, nativist, authoritarian right bullshit was still despised on boards like /mu/, /lit/, /co/, and so on. If anyone posted that shit, they were called out immediately.

Now, alarmingly, as of about a month ago, it seems like that final threshold was crossed. Racism, Jewish conspiracies, and authoritarian right bullshit is all over those boards. It seems like most posters have finally bought into it.

So, are those far right ideologies spreading even further, or is this isolated to the future? Is it just a case of all the fascist types going there, driving everyone else out, or is this a microcosm for society more broadly?
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Frederick Hommerdere - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:19:21 EST ID:eYQL9XNi No.397267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397266
The irony is he is really into the rules, man.
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Alice Gushwog - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:01:55 EST ID:iwAxN7G0 No.397272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397212
I'm a refugee from 4reich as well, OP. It felt like /pol/ was slowly spreading into other boards for years but when the election ended it was over, like /pol/'s population had sky-rocketed during 2016 and now that Trump was president the astronomical amounts of fascit newfags have started branching out into every other board. The last board I was able to tolerate was /lit/, but now that Peterson is a thing /pol/ has gotten it into their heads that youtube videos are just as good as real books and are ruining that too. I think it's also no coincidence that Stormfront got shut down last month so a huge portion of their usebase have probably settled there.

>Is it just a case of all the fascist types going there, driving everyone else out, or is this a microcosm for society more broadly?
I don't think it's a microcosm for society, purely because most people IRL do not seem to like alt-right types.
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Cedric Mobbledin - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 11:34:47 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.397273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fascists are just loud, and I wouldn't be surprised if they used bots.

Get an army of NEETs (most alt-righters) to sit home all day spewing crap online all day. With that sort of dedication, you have what you see on 4shit.
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Cornelius Drunningson - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 20:28:36 EST ID:EHzS8TdG No.397285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397273

Fascists are filling the internet, their counterparts are more active in real life. The only thing is fascists dont have to be a popular movement to gain power they just need a core group of people on their side, and the state. Their counterparts, need popular movements to achieve anything so spend more time in the field risking their lives. Look at Europe. There's plenty of core groups that support fascism, but there's way more leftists and anarchists in Europe. Yet they can easily lose because the neo liberal state will never oppose fascism in favor of communists. The biggest terror threat in Europe labeled by Interpol other than Islamic extremism is anarchist and ultra left groups. It's always been this way.
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Cornelius Drunningson - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 20:30:14 EST ID:EHzS8TdG No.397286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397285

Need historical proof? Peep how many participated in the Russian revolution vs. Hitler's rise to power. One was massive, one just pulled a few strings until it panned out the proper way.


Refugees by Albert Nickleworth - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 16:58:35 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.396920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I assume we are all familiar with the general global migration problem? Basically people are moving from poor countries to rich at a rate and in a manner and composition that is beginning to irritate the rich countries. First off we need to distinguish between the 3 main and different groups. Immigrants, irregular migrants and asylum seekers. This thread concerns mostly asylum seekers.

The whole point of asylum is basically that if you are being murdered in your country you can seek protection elsewhere and not be sent back to be murdered. It's all here: http://www.unhcr.org/1951-refugee-convention.html (I think). The whole thing was designed after WW2 and the whole holocaust thing. It makes perfect sense. Everyone has to protect their neighbors when they are in trouble and expect likewise. It also means that you have somewhere to go if you have ideas your government deems inconvenient. So far so good. The British considered it a mark of pride to host continental refugees (many of whom subsequently fought alongside them). Likewise Sweden was happy to welcome Danish Jews and Finnish children.

In the shrunken (globalized) world we inhabit people can move much further much easier. Unlike the neighbor and clear necessity based border crossing of yore the modern world resembles a market where you can go country shopping. Different countries have widely differing offers for refugees after all. At a glance this can seem great, but to those offering asylum it is an open-ended commitment that can be theoretically accessed by any of the 65.6 million people (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refugee_crisis) currently counted as refugees. Why? Because we all signed the damn documents that's why.

So why hasn't it been changed? Mostly because it has grown into the global standard and that is really hard to change because it involves everyone (many of which hate each other). Much like the U.N. it's simply the best we've got and we'd probably need another world war to be in a position where we were willing to cooperate to make a new one. Srsly, governments (of any stripe) rarely undertake major altruistic international commitments unless shit has hit the fan in a big way. Dictators ironically seem…
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Hamilton Tillingshaw - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:49:03 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.397274 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397271
Not really. Territorial systems pre-WW1 often didn't have clearly defined borders except where natural ones allowed (France and Germany on the Rhine for example). There were no border checkpoints, but just "borderlands" like marches where rule of law was minimally enforced by either territory.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/March_(territorial_entity)

Humans can create societies that enforce some kind of territorial sovereignty without having strictly and arbitrarily defined political borders as they exist today. Libertarian municipalism, revolutionary intercommunalism, and democratic confederalism, are all based on that principle in one way or another.
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Archie Sebbledale - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:58:15 EST ID:PStQUs2Y No.397276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397274
if by "pre-ww1" you actually mean hundreds to thousands of years ago depending on the place in the world, sure. The medieval concept of marches you're posting there only ever applied to feudal europe and stopped existing around the 14th century, imperial china had border posts and customs agents, renaissance europe had such detailed and defined borders for its thousands of principalities that some farmers had fields in two seperate countries and was taxed by both, and you bet your ass they knew who owed what taxes to who.
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Hamilton Tillingshaw - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 14:01:46 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.397277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397276
Marches are just one example among many. I'm not saying "borders don't exist, man" or that they don't have some definite utility. If I'm making any argument against borders, it's that they're unnecessary for human social organization and provide definite disutilities if respect for human rights and human freedom are our concern.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:49:16 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.397280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397270
Foxconn operates in China instead of Germany or Canada or the US because, despite the very high productivity of Chinese workers, laborers have far fewer legal protections and can be paid a much lower wage. Apple exploits this difference to create "superprofits" over and above what they could by contracting the assembly of their electronics in the first world. The practice of using local labor market conditions to their advantage is called "global labor arbitrage." Again, this is only possible in a world with borders closed to workers but not multinationals, for reasons I hope I have already made clear.
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Frederick Dummerbanks - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 16:38:42 EST ID:7vXpw3uu No.397281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397277

dude we are millennia past discussing whether or not we need borders. someone has a heart attack and dies in "the borderlands." who has to investigate? a fire hydrant bursts in "the borderlands." who has to fix it? a dumb deer gets killed on a road in "the borderlands." who has to clear it? a series of small villages exist along "the borderlands." who collects taxes from them?


Deeper down the rabbit hole by Beatrice Bleddlechedging - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:08:50 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.397201 Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/russians-appear-to-use-facebook-to-push-pro-trump-flash-mobs-in-florida

>Suspected Russia propagandists on Facebook tried to organize more than a dozen pro-Trump rallies in Florida during last year’s election, The Daily Beast has learned.

>The demonstrations—at least one of which was promoted online by local pro-Trump activists— brought dozens of supporters together in real life. They appear to be the first case of Russian provocateurs successfully mobilizing Americans over Facebook in direct support of Donald Trump.

>The Aug. 20, 2016, events were collectively called “Florida Goes Trump!” and they were billed as a “patriotic state-wide flash mob,” unfolding simultaneously in 17 different cities and towns in the battleground state. It’s difficult to determine how many of those locations actually witnessed any turnout, in part because Facebook’s recent deletion of hundreds of Russian accounts hid much of the evidence. But videos and photos from two of the locations—Fort Lauderdale and Coral Springs—were reposted to a Facebook page run by the local Trump campaign chair, where they remain to this day.

>“On August 20, we want to gather patriots on the streets of Floridian towns and cities and march to unite America and support Donald Trump!” read the Facebook event page for the demonstrations. “Our flash mob will occur in several places at the same time; more details about locations will be added later. Go Donald!”

>The Florida flash mob was one of at least four pro-Trump or anti-Hillary Clinton demonstrations conceived and organized over a Facebook page called “Being Patriotic,” and a related Twitter account called “march_for_trump.” (The Daily Beast identified the accounts in a software-assisted review of politically themed social-media profiles.)

>Being Patriotic had 200,000 followers and the strongest activist bent of any of the suspected Russian Facebook election pages that have so far emerged. Events promoted by the page last year included a July “Down With Hillary!” protest outside Clinton’s New York campaign headquarters, a September 11 pro-Trump demonstration in Manhattan, simultaneous “Miners for Trump” demonstrations in Philadelphia and Pi…
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Fuck Shakehall - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 08:30:44 EST ID:zPXPYis7 No.397222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trump supporters are easily manipulated? who knew???
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Hannah Genderkodge - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:29:56 EST ID:J5gJAGZe No.397225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's all in the memes, noobs. xaxaxaxaxa
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Frederick Dummerbanks - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 06:17:36 EST ID:7vXpw3uu No.397268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dude are you surprised or something? breaking news, global superpowers meddle in every thing they possibly can as much as possible. if it is possible for russia to have people in the us who promote or subvert certain candidates, then they will do it. and as a proud american, i freely acknowledge i admire the political guile and cunning of such an idea. reminds me of german schemes during the battle of the ardennes where enlgish speaking spies impersonated american soldiers in order to destroy supplies and infrastructure. has a KGB/FSB taste to it, which leads us down the scent trail to ol' pooty putin


Ben Garrison by Edwin Givingville - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:02:51 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.397241 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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But only the good versions.
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Sophie Chondlelock - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 05:48:14 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.397255 Report Quick Reply
>>397254

Who knows, maybe he did have that revelation. Seems like he really, REALLY hates Trump though. Maybe that was the tipping point for him?
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Fuck Fanstone - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 11:43:59 EST ID:PIa6yiXY No.397258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly, I can't say anything about Garrison, because I legit have zero clue what's his real work, and whats the edits.
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Shitting Blapperbanks - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:37:24 EST ID:9hrURYkb No.397259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These are edits. On his website you can see the originals and, surprise, he's totally uncritical of Trump.

The Bookend edit was originally Bill Clinton
The War Tumor was McCain
ETC
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Charles Cinningshaw - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:08:42 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.397264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397247
I was very drunk

>>397249
>>397254
Oh yeah all but the CIA wolf one is a shop.

>>397258
The idea is he was a libertarian then the future kept making antisemitic edits of Garrison until he became fascist. So maybe we can go the other way. But I doubt it.

I meant he's the best around because he really captures the insanity of our current dimension.
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Caroline Gillycocke - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:35:26 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.397265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397264
>Oh yeah all but the CIA wolf one is a shop.
all but the last are pretty well done.

8/10, i actually bothered googling em.


POTUS ZUCC 2020 by Hannah Genderkodge - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:31:00 EST ID:J5gJAGZe No.397226 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2017-09-21/mark-zuckerberg-s-political-awakening

>build huge surveillance and manipulation machine
>beta test it on extraordinary challenge: make the orange clown president
>now that you know it works, use it to beat the well-placed, extraordinary weak opponent in 2020

It is the perfect crime?
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Ernest Clingernure - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 21:43:07 EST ID:P+UvSsNR No.397237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397226
I take that prospect about as seriously as Kanye running and winning. All these idiots think that they can hamfist themselves into office like Trump did so tons of loons are trying to make it.

Mark Zuckerberg doesn't have a 1/10000th of the charisma to make it into office. Watch any of his press conferences or big events where he talks about something to a crowd.
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Clara Gishhore - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:25:29 EST ID:k1T4yVqN No.397239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>397226
I hope the experience of his inevitable failure leaves him broken and alone like Charles Foster Kane
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Ernest Brorrykun - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:30:21 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.397240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Implying alone is punishment for an aspie....
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Beatrice Boshbine - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 12:40:39 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.397260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Zucc doesn't have the anti-political resentment on his side like Trump did. He doesn't have a "man of the people" vibe, either, like what Trump gives off by eating KFC for dinner and having the most gaudy and kitsch tastes imaginable.
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Lydia Sagglebury - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 15:20:42 EST ID:kdeXld5j No.397262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397260
I can't stand Zucc, he's a real stallion. SJW all the way. And his website is politically biased as hell.


Fuck Texas for their politics by Ian Nankinwell - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 10:22:03 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.396473 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am done with the sympathy for Tex-ass.

For decades, these backwards chucklefucks elected the most backwards, insane, selfish cunts they could find. Every single time someone suggests something like, I dunno, taxing the rich, Texas threatens to secede. If Ted Cruz doesn't get a mint with his dinner check at Olive Garden (the fanciest place to eat in Texas, BTW,) he threatens to secede.
Texans are shooting at rescuers. They shoot at EVERYTHING. And every single asshole getting pulled out of the water is some fat ass who got caught driving around looking for an open Krispy Creme.

Politically, Texas has had no problem screwing other states and denying them hurricane relief.

I say, fine...you wanna be the Texas Confederate Circle Jerks of America or whatever, then you are on your own. No more relief money...no national guard. No resources. You have to learn to share and be civilized before you get those things.
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Nigel Sasslekotch - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 12:32:05 EST ID:E0iKQ/s8 No.397136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397098
Man, I had a really good response to this post kinda just affirming your point that legit surprised me because it got pretty deep into economics, which I usually can't write about for shit...then my thumb accidentally bumped the home page button on my phones internet and it was all gone in a flash.

After like 3 legit hours trying to recreate it I realize it was a bit of the spur of the moment brilliance, any attempt at recreation will produce nothing but rambling b.s. that doesn't further the discussion, so alas....

You're spot on, on both counts. Empowerment of the marginalized is hugely positive in a melting pot like the USA. An actual education is important as hell, if anything just to equip one with critical thinking skills. A lack of critical thinking abilities and general education is part of what brought forth Trump vs Hillary '16. Economies preform far, far better when more of the citizenry is encouraged to contribute to the economy, tham when certain groups like women are barred from participating. People who refuse to acknowledge these facts are a cancer. Reality isn't some dopey 50s sitcom or John Wayne movie. Women are basically half of the species, id say they contribute just as much to societal development and philosophies as the other half. There's no reason to treat them as lower for nothing but their chromosomes.
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Simon Dirrywill - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 15:38:56 EST ID:6POwg5Ik No.397205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397098
This post is spot on. There is a interesting development in Japan about what you just posted on woman being more educated and having less children, and that is why the fertility rate their is so low.
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Beatrice Duckson - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:07:01 EST ID:zA8Zcg02 No.397207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397205
Whoa, someone get Akihito on the phone. This guy found the, one and only, reason why the fertility rate in Japan is so low.
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Ernest Foshridge - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:09:45 EST ID:g7uHCdWz No.397229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397205
>spot on.
>woman being more educated = less children
that is literally the opposite of what he said.

also this:
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Esther Sonderville - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:10:12 EST ID:2jpdFdE0 No.397234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397205
Yep it couldn't have to do with the 60 hour work week required to afford a family.


Running Scared by Walter Sabberstone - Wed, 16 Aug 2017 16:08:26 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.395791 Report Reply Quick Reply
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After the events in Virginia, many of the "alt-right" are now trying to distance themselves from the brand, claiming yet another rebranding called "New Right". Make no mistake, these cowards are the same people that stood with Richard Spencer and the other neonazi "alt-right" filth, parroted the same sentiments and hold the same ultimate beliefs. The only difference? They are terrified, and rightly so, that there will be repercussions and retribution for standing with Klansmen and other fascists in Charlottesville.

They claim they want to “wear MAGA hats, create memes & have fun.” and are "totally not racist you guys." One such individual is Jack Posobiec, who espouses conspiracy theories of "white genocide" and how BLM is a black separatist group. He claims that he's never been buddy-buddy with people like Richard Spencer and claimed that he was scum. This tweet says otherwise; https://twitter.com/RichardBSpencer/status/876564807142572032

Keep a close eye on this, don't be suckered in to believing these people had a change of heart.
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Martin Brogglehood - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 16:29:55 EST ID:vrI8ZFKT No.397109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396918
>why do Neo-Nazis hate leftists so much?

They kinda don't. Not really.

They are generally separate entity
which leans toward the right,
but politically is independent
of right VS. Left.
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Eugene Fuckingford - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:31:03 EST ID:xQbV1JEs No.397114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397109
Oh fuck off cocksucker. You know how neonazi music is called?

You'd think it's called "neonazi rock". But no. It's called "rock against communism". Neonazi autists are so obsessed with hating "the left" whatever that means, that they won't even name their own fucking music after themselves.
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Nathaniel Bendleson - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 10:56:22 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.397119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397109
>They kinda don't. Not really.
Yeah, actually they do. Yes really.
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Ian Blathershaw - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 11:32:32 EST ID:rL4+PvoI No.397121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397109
>They kinda don't. Not really.
Be honest with yourself: who do you think you're fooling?
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Shitting Pubbleson - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:29:02 EST ID:xTkTDSy/ No.397217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397114
actually it's called rammstein


The anti government types are actually pro government! by Hannah Hubberkone - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 07:29:23 EST ID:6zExGW/M No.397131 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's with all the ancaps, and rightists who say they're sick of big government and need a revolution scoffing and spitting on people who literally stormed the home of a openly corrupted politician? I guess by anti government they mean a "I want the brutal government of the 1920s back where no regulation was happened and rich people could have dissidents assassinated without the media even acknowledging a problem. Ah the good ol days when national guard could shoot the rabble dead. Now government is restrained by moralistic traps".
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:32:13 EST ID:iFsdrSSG No.397176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397131
I don't want to sound like a broken record, but I've posted a few times in the last couple months about the organic link between American "libertarianism"/ancapism and fascism. It's not a mistake or coincidence, fascism is a revolutionary movement that at once seeks to overthrow bourgeois class power and preserve capitalism at the same time. This is exactly the political goal of right-"libertarians." The distinction between ancapism and fascism is upheld ultimately by the idealist false dichotomy of libertarianism vs authoritarianism, so it is no surprise that the one would transform into the other. Right-libertarianism is fascism minus the aesthetic and palingenetic aspects that make it attractive, coherent, and effective. As it stands ancapism is an incredibly unpopular position held by basically no one, which has never wielded any influence in the world's political landscape. Those ancaps among them who got a clue about political praxis became fascists.
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Shitting Sucklehedge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:02:58 EST ID:knegh5Qt No.397198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397176
I disagree a little, ancapism is basically the populist version of neoliberalism. So it holds a lot of power in the world. Its as if the 1% milton friedman types were born poor with nothing except a youtube channel and imageboards to rant on.
And yeah neo-liberals have an alliance of sorts with fascists. The best of both worlds is an authoritarian government and rampant capitalism in their eyes.
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Wesley Pittham - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:08:43 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.397200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397139
banned for wrongthink
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Polly Drambledale - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 16:35:02 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.397208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right-wing libertarianism only stands for the unchecked power of bosses over workers. That's all there is to it. A lot of the edgy white teenage boys who get into the libertarian movement do so because they imagine themselves as the boss, not the worker. Everything else from there is just mental gymnastics that no one outside of the libertarian movement cares about because everyone starts off with entirely different moral assumptions.

>>397200
Nah he's a retard who said nothing of substance. Want to defend the cops? Go ahead. Don't do so by mindlessly regurgitating propaganda you saw someone say somewhere else.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 05:11:47 EST ID:IAncoQAI No.397218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397198
>ancapism is basically the populist version of neoliberalism
This sentence doesn't actually mean anything.


The alt right..simply put by Caroline Favingstock - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:00:17 EST ID:GnpVqSi1 No.397101 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are they? There's only one answer. They're an organized force of propagandists and networks that aroseto combat a growing disapproval towards the American economic structure, and to try to fight to boost the morale of a murderous prison system under scrutiny. They are either a. Upper middle class to high class law abiding nerds who want the savage plebs to go back to accepting the police state or b. Poor losers who have been convinced that they identify with their class enemies more than other working poor people.

To buy into free speech for people who literally rallied around the sentiment of putting "dissidents in stretchers" is an oxymoron. To call a movement that legit wants pic related to anyone questioning their glorious American way of life a "free speech" movement is ignorance.
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Wesley Huckledire - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:39:49 EST ID:5I6O3037 No.397196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397189

He may have died some other way, but be still did 8 plus years. Trust me we know this stuff. This is why they diagust us. All anarchist hero's of history have long prison sentences in them. They live being banished and exiled. Fascists may be brutal but when they serve prison time they usually clean up and integrate with society. Anarchists are repeat offenders. Didn't Emma Goldman's husband spend 10+ years in prison for trying to shoot someone? Yeah real beautiful people. They've always been criminals who see no legitimacy in law and order.
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Fuck Grandshit - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 23:50:26 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.397197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397194
Alt-Right are either people think genocide is necessary to maintain or gain them the country club lifestyle.
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Lillian Beshstone - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 04:49:12 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.397199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397196
Well then, how about you just keep shifting those goalposts all the way the fuck out of here dumbfuck? nb
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Emma Fundernurk - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:45:27 EST ID:Z2p0nu1x No.397203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Walter Bloblingtine - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 20:57:22 EST ID:xHfkkhXd No.397235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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An anti-fascist infiltrated the alt-right institutions and wrote some informative stuff. The differences between fascism and the alt-right is porous and few. https://alternativeright.hopenothate.com/my-year-inside-the-international-alt-right


Canada's Pro US labor NAFTA push to stop the race to the bottom by Ebenezer Widdlechan - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 18:49:56 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.397147 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Canada would like to see more protections and an end to some union busting legislative initiatives as part of their NAFTA renegotiation - but they want them for US workers specifically.
https://www.thenation.com/article/canada-is-using-nafta-to-demand-protection-for-us-unions/

On the surface it might seem pretty darn nice of them - but the reality is that if they can stall US labor's 'race to the bottom' they will probably protect their own workers from a similar fate. Turning the tide in the US means having to fight less of that battle at home.

At the very least, if they can slow down the deterioration of labor standards in the americas, if they can win labor protections for workers here in the US, they can win them by proxy up in more-affluent canada.

... has demanded protections for unionization and collective-bargaining rights, and called directly for a ban on "right to work" laws, which many states have used to dilute union power and sink wages, with spillover effects for the workforces of US trade partners. Pressured by unions, Canadian ministers seem to be leveraging labor standards to pressure Trump to make NAFTA, in theory, more beneficial for Canada's labor force by countering the "race to the bottom."

Strange that we've arrived at a point where our Canadian neighbor's government is a better friend to US labor than the US and its own representatives.

Thoughts?
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Henry Bunwill - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:58:08 EST ID:PStQUs2Y No.397180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397179
NAFTA was devastating to our economy when it came into force, and so unpopular that it sunk a government, and then when the next government who campaigned on promising to pull out of it didn't follow through with it sunk them.

But our economy has adjusted (and been sold to the americans wholesale) since then so pulling out would be even worse at this point. There's no current political appetite for getting rid of it, and the current government is the party of Bay Street vested interests so it goes against their mandate of making rich people more money.
There IS a strong general desire to have as little to fucking do with that shitshow in the US as possible though, so if negotiations did just break down I think public opinion could be pushed towards friendship ended with washington beijing is my best friend now.
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Matilda Sumblefuck - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:41:14 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.397181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397180
>There IS a strong general desire to have as little to fucking do with that shitshow in the US as possible though, so if negotiations did just break down I think public opinion could be pushed towards friendship ended with washington beijing is my best friend now.

Fucking Trump...how do you piss of Canadians?
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Jenny Blenderville - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 14:43:00 EST ID:Q0bzZZKf No.397182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397181
To be fair I seem to remember Dubya pissing them off quite a bit, too.
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Augustus Perringstirk - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 15:11:05 EST ID:PIa6yiXY No.397183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397180
>next government who campaigned on promising to pull out of it didn't follow through with it sunk them.

10 years of majority government is hardly "sinking" I'd say.
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Lillian Cunnersat - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 21:09:45 EST ID:PStQUs2Y No.397185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397183
my bad, forgot to type the nearly there, they recovered but Chretien had to get Bill Clinton to write us a letter promising he wouldn't steal our natural resources.


/pol/tube General Thread by Caroline Docklelene - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:56:12 EST ID:ndNw7doq No.397137 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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General discussion of /pol/tube and live events going on in the tube. Technical problems can be discussed further on /420/.

>/pol/tube - http://taima.tv/r/pol
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Priscilla Grimson - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:47:31 EST ID:PIa6yiXY No.397168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397165
But he's going to be president for life because he has such a huge, unbreakable base, and the dems are super double secret probation dead!
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Hamilton Surrynudging - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:49:43 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.397169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397168
This is accurate.
Remember, his "base" is only 24% of 50% of eligible voters. Literally, he won with less than half of a half.

Meanwhile, Pelosi is too busy sucking corporate cock to see the forest from the trees.
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Molly Grimford - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:53:21 EST ID:qAk6/jZh No.397170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://www.occidentaldissent.com/2017/09/17/moar-mother-of-all-rallies-overshadowed-by-juggalos-in-dc/

reminder that centrism is dead, moderates no longer exist. if you try to downplay the more ridiculous shit on the right as a rightist, you're shut down as a stallion. one of the reasons hillary lost actually. she didn't embrace the left enough and tried to act like she's in the middle, in the end alienating both sides.

bill clinton was the original "centrist" player in modern american politics. it worked in the 90s but it simply doesn't in the internet age.

hillary is a centrist. that's why she lost. trump on the other hand played the populist/nationalist card and won, only to quickly betray his base and join the neoliberal/globalist cabal.

oh, the delicious irony
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Need a place for your protest live stream feeds? - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:55:23 EST ID:FPItHr1G No.397171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397137

http://taima.tv/r/pol St. Louis protests, day 3. 9 arrests so far.
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Matilda Sumblefuck - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 18:57:26 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.397184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397171
Apparently they fucked up the mayor's house. Man, shit is getting real. FINALLY!


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