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Fuck by Ernest Honeywell - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 22:57:28 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398650 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I listened to part of the tax plan debate today on the radio and I just don't know what the fuck we're supposed to do. These monsters are pure evil. They have no sense of moral decency, you cannot reason with them. They will do nothing but steal from the poor and give to the rich at all cost. They're taking short term one time funds that could be used to make infrastructure investments that would repair our broken and unsafe bridges and roads and create jobs but instead they're giving it to the rich. It will massively increase the debt. Once the short term funds dry up, they're going to raise taxes on the poor to make up for it. In the beginning people will think they're getting a cut, but in a few years their rates are actually going to be higher. Unless you make more than 100k that is in which case they're going to be way lower... These fuckers know exactly what they're doing. It has been explained to them by the democrats in the room. They catch them in their lies and they sheepishly give another weak prevarication but you can hear the shame in their voice. Then they go ahead and one by one vote to do what they know is morally wrong and senseless.

This is fucked. I get murderous rage flowing through my body when I listen to this shit. Does anyone else get this? How do you cope?
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Hugh Mushham - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:04:21 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.398677 Report Quick Reply
>>398676

Well, the solution to that is to educate people on what Republicans really stand for and what they are doing. Don't push any ideologies on people, just tell them the facts.

>"Republicans only serve the rich. They are overwhelmingly a racist bunch. They go out of their way to make things horrible for everyone but themselves, their families and the people who drop insane amounts of cash on their political campaigns."
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Doris Chindlestid - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 01:37:38 EST ID:T8Cv5OCh No.398679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398650

Part of the plan is that lower taxes on the rich and large corporations will cause the rich to repatriate money held overseas, which the wealthiest do to avoid paying taxes in the first place.

I agree that there is a lot of nasty self serving behavior going on here. But the spirit of lowering taxes on the wealthy is not necessarily bad, there just has to be a reduction in the budget to go along with it. The military is the obvious place for where these cuts should be, but it will never happen.

I don't think the tax bill will pass because of the deficit issue. There are still some republicans who are big time "anti-deficit" people, and a few of them will be enough to stop it from passing as they have promised their constituents to stop the deficit at any costs. The deficit isn't as much of a political issue as it used to be because people care more about fucking basketball players in a chinese jail than these things, but thankfully there are some republicans that have a degree of ideological consistency and will resist this bill.
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Walter Woffingpure - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 16:47:02 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.398686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398679
> people care more about fucking basketball players in a chinese jail than these things
Unfortunately, one of those people is our president. He'd rather get into a twitter war with John Q. Citizen than work with congress Republicans on a tax bill. It's easy for him to say "tax breaks for the middle class and spending a trillion dollars on infrastructure" (and republican voters are dumb enough to fall for it), but when it comes time to do the actual legwork, he's wasting taxpayer dollars in mar a lago while his wife is hiding from him in NY.

>>398677
>the solution to that is to educate people on what Republicans really stand for
>"They are overwhelmingly a racist bunch."
You're kinda discounting the swathes of racist Americans who vote R because they want to keep the darkies down, even if it means less economic security for themselves.

>"Republicans only serve the rich."
There are also people who believe trickle down economics will lead to their prosperity.

Plus, facts don't matter when people think Breitbart headlines and a vlog from some random youtuber are legit news sources.
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Charlotte Sapperham - Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:55:12 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Listen to this quote that Trump is using to sell his base on welfare cuts which mainly go to his base.

>“That’s becoming a very big subject and people are taking advantage of the system and other people aren’t receiving what they need to live, and we think it’s very unfair to them,”

Notice how they frame this issue in racial dogwhistles? The stereotype of shaneequa the welfare queen who abuses the system is well ingrained thanks to right wing media so they're implying that black people abuse the system and will get less welfare which means there will be more welfare for the white people who follow the rules. When people talk about the right wing using racism to trick the poor white man into voting against his own interests, this is what they're talking about because if you haven't already guessed--prepare to put on your shocked face--republican cuts to welfare are not going to only affect black people and somehow give more money to white people, they're going to take more money from all poor people regardless of race(and give it to the rich in the form of massive tax cuts).

(link to article I got the Trump quote from: http://www.newsweek.com/trump-white-house-goes-after-white-people-welfare-717759 )
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Ian Draffingbon - Thu, 23 Nov 2017 02:26:51 EST ID:7QwqWOe2 No.398709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As opposed to stealing from the rich and giving to the poor?

Everyone is getting a tax cut bro, Trumps plan was for no income tax for the first $25K earned yearly.
I fucking wish I made 25K in a year.
It's the right think to do, stimulate the economy from below, increase local spending which helps small businesses and tax cuts for small business owners also helps with that. Small business in the US is something like 90% of jobs.


Well I like the EU's chances at not fracturing! by Barnaby Mobbleford - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:44:47 EST ID:vIPPdauo No.398475 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>already running war games
I imagine they have a lot of faith in what they preach
I guess even Germany at this point is done pretending that you can have a unified Monetary policy without a unified Fiscal policy.

Even I am a little surprised that they stopped lying, this was doomed endeavor anyways

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-german-army-contemplates-eu-fissures-in-scenario-study-spiegel-2017-11
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/german-forces-wargame-break-up-of-the-european-union-tzglz5bsl
https://www.politico.eu/article/german-military-study-eu-collapse-is-conceivable/

And this has been developed since February and kept hidden (ironic considering it is a file on your current political collapse)
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Augustus Crongerman - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 02:38:41 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398697
An interesting dark bit about the Penal Colonies was that of the "more than seventy thousand men sent to Guiana: at least three fourths died there; barely five thousand made it back to France; and nine thousand escaped--there were very few survivors."
Outrage: An Anarchist Memoir of the Penal Colony

>[...]that just like us they would have been massacred all together or tortured like our comrade Girier-Lorion and died the same way. In the meantime, both of us gave in to our executioners through our cowardice by not responding to their provocations and not revoloting as was our intention, but on the contrary paralyzing each other in the vain hope of doing better. Today I can contemplate things more objectively: Was it not the instinct of self-preservation, the hope of seeing our loved ones again that paralyzed this spontaneous movement that had been brewing for so long?

>And all this in spite of ourselves, in spite of the ideal that we held so close to our hearts making us so mindful of our dignity, which, however, we must admit that in spite of all our efforts to preserve it, we constantly left behind a little piece of it by accepting such a miserable existence.

"What was the result of our hesitation at that time?"

>The death of all our comrades, some murdered, others worn out and eaten away by the climate, the hardships, phsical and moral suffering, and the lack of care in their sickness. Pini was among them, even after having spent ten years in that hell and always with the hope of getting out or die fighting until his last breath if it was no longer possible. But he had not taken into account the sickness that was eating him away and wold end up annihilating his entire will, all his energy and then--too late.

"I am the only one from that time lucky enough to have sur vived and to have managed to get free, which allows me to write these lines that are an accurate account, I guarantee, of part of life lived in that cesspool."
Clement Duval
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Fuck Crandledale - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:58:26 EST ID:Br+jKwh9 No.398703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398701

I don't see why they were so whiney. You do the crime you do the time. Calling yourself an anarchist in that time might as well of been "I'm a mobster with idealogy". They were gangsters. How do gangsters die? Shot dead orrr in jail. Srsly if you belong to a group of ppl who talk like " let's kill those rats" about citizens doing civic duty and assisting the law..you're THUGS
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James Pommershit - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 14:47:04 EST ID:VTOLM4mD No.398704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398703
Kind of like how calling oneself or identifying with or associating with the alt-right justifies any violence done against them, right?
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Augustus Crongerman - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:48:32 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398705
Some of those anarchists were sentenced to the Penal Colony for simply making speeches. Really it doesn't matter how much you lick the boots of law enforcement and lawmakers, they'll continue to pass and enforce laws that don't benefit you. I think you'll find as the government continues to corrupt and concentrate wealth and power towards a tiny minority elite that we'll all be worse off, regardless of what one believes.

There's some interesting stories about informants and undercovers, like that dude in Britain who was intimately involved with an activist for years, but had a wife and kid somewhere else. He became increasingly depressed because of the mixed feelings and constant lies before the activist's friends eventually found info revealing that dude as an undercover.
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Nigel Novingbock - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 18:35:40 EST ID:quxPcfgP No.398708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398707
is this the new navy seal sniper copy pasta?


Global Urbanization a Threat to Capitalism? by Hedda Pockwill - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 15:50:17 EST ID:A1p2LEkb No.398551 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.un.org/en/development/desa/population/publications/pdf/popfacts/PopFacts_2014-3.pdf

>The global urban population has increased by a factor of five, from 0.7 billion in 1950 to 3.9 billion in 2014. It is expected to increase by another 60 per cent by 2050, when 6.3 billion people are projected to live in urban settlements. The global rural population is ceasing to grow. It is projected to reach a peak of just under 3.4 billion shortly after 2020 and to decline thereafter to 3.2 billion in 2050.

As many know, the current first world nations are supported on the backs of slave labor across the third world. The ripple effects of colonialism and anglo-centric global empires have resulted in Europe, N.Am., Aus/NZ having essentially the best quality of life on earth while the vast majority of Africa, M.E., S.Am., Asia, etc., are locked in sociopolitical turmoil stoked by the nations of the first world.

However as more and more humans move from rural to urban settings, global literacy and education rates rise, it will be harder and harder with each passing year to maintain the global system of oppressive wealth and power disparity. The mass migration to Europe from N.Af./M.E. is one symptom of this. Or will we instead see a higher percentage of urban people living a slum existence and in the end be just as easy to oppress? Will rural-centric global regions such as sub-saharan africa see an increase in political clout as fewer people worldwide work in the agricultural industries?
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Phineas Paffingburk - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:11:54 EST ID:gakTOcWS No.398667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398666

Secondly, a voluntary exchange insists upon mutually equal benefits. You must be a part of a higher class if you think this is happening. Why do I assume this? Because I don't see anything voluntary about submitting 90 hours a week at work, to see more than half of my income go to landlords, taxes and Bill collectors. So what? I can spend the remaining 50-400 bucks a month to loans,large food corporations, and maybe get an 8th? Sounds like to me my existence is making other people wealthy more so than myself. If you don't experience this you're either a. Blind or b. From the other side of the tracks.

Meanwhile private jet owners get a tax break and the rich get welfare for school as banks extort the rest of us, enslaving us just because we wanted to learn.
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Cyril Murdforth - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 11:24:30 EST ID:xQbV1JEs No.398674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398667
>Meanwhile private jet owners get a tax break and the rich get welfare for school as banks extort the rest of us, enslaving us just because we wanted to learn.

If you live in the US of Cocksuckers maybe where being poor is a crime.
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Hamilton Godgewitch - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:14:17 EST ID:l0jUbEaV No.398678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398666

so because you can cite examples of involuntary exchanges, that means voluntary exchanges are a complete and utter bullshit myth?
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Fucking Wabberforth - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 20:40:24 EST ID:y4EuAgoL No.398691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398678

No but claiming the economy as a whole is voluntary is a myth void of any actual theory and understanding of history. Its a propaganda tactic and nothing more.
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Fuck Crandledale - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 13:52:56 EST ID:Br+jKwh9 No.398702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398691

Nothing's voluntary on earth therefore capitalism is the greatest model of natural elements with technology in mind.


Brexit beggining to hit the fan by Edwin Bockleman - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 11:48:41 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.398452 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://behindthepaywallblog.wordpress.com/2017/11/01/theresa-mays-brexit-strategy-hits-a-legal-minefield/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2017/10/31/theresa-mays-brexit-strategy-hits-legal-minefield/#comments

Basically the Brits seem to be waking up to the idea that global trade rules aren't some sort of elaborate bluff by the EU.
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Phyllis Goodman - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 20:16:39 EST ID:cB61Xg61 No.398617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398552
a simple-majority plebiscite on membership in the EU is kind of a hamfisted populism though. Popular opinion on the issue can shift across that 50% threshold week to week just based on market performance and terrorist attacks. It's one thing to hold a referendum on a policy that can be enacted and dropped by a single government, but membership in the world's largest trade union is equivalent to a major constitutional amendment. Leave won mostly on nativist lies anyway; the border policy is going to be the first thing the UK hands over to try to soften the spanking.
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Lillian Gusslenat - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:34:44 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.398664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oi! The bleedin' paddies are getting uppity now!
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4940971/irelands-naive-young-prime-minister-should-shut-his-gob-on-brexit-and-grow-up/

It's a good thing the UK holds all the cards or this strategy of pissing off all your negotiating partners could backfire.
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Ian Cellerkut - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 13:53:28 EST ID:5IdieRNJ No.398665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398664
Man, you think the British Empire was still kicking with how some brits are acting.
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Phineas Paffingburk - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:23:06 EST ID:gakTOcWS No.398669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398665

They wish it was. They couldn't take on the Irish resistance during the troubles what makes them think they could when their empire is just a former image of itself riding on the wake of America and NATO. If they created a situation like the 1970s they'd quickly be begging for the EU and Americas military. The delusion of their strength thru brexit would fade so quick.
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Fanny Guvingchack - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 13:59:12 EST ID:RECqzvsy No.398682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398665
Well, it's "the Sun" which can hardly be considered a respectable paper. I assume Rupert Murdoch wants a no-deal brexit so as to sew the UK into Americas orbit. A good way of doing that would be to piss off the Irish.
>>398669
It's not so much a military issue as it is a question of economics and influence. What is curious is the apparent ignorance of the practicalities of international cooperation. The EU side has even explored if it is a ruse: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/uk-brexit-chaos-eu-diplomats-talks-too-chaotic-to-be-true-bluff-cunning-plan-theresa-may-government-a7876366.html
It seems almost Trumpian.


Fck These Guys by Dr Angry - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 06:34:43 EST ID:NLUTKhNN No.398524 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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In their own twisted words
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnQEZDq7p20
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Frederick Hevingsterk - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 23:55:00 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.398620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398600
China, Rome, Spain, China, German, Japan, China, the Ottomans, and China (I could probably list China a few more times, counting each China which imploded due to its own ineptitude) would like a word with you.

There's a fairly common theme of the ruling entity aligning its interests against powerful factions within the country, and then making those factions more powerful relative to itself.
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Ernest Hinnergold - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 00:18:00 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.398621 Report Quick Reply
>>398524

>>396072

The webm in this post is telling as well. The GOP are all scum.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:46:59 EST ID:QiGBcKwL No.398623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398620
All empires fall into decadence, this is not the same as ineptitude. The point was that the war on drugs is not some kind of boneheaded mistake spanning decades, it is a deliberately wielded and effective weapon.
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Nicholas Medgemet - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 04:20:13 EST ID:P0urNmwg No.398663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
25 percent of the worlds prison population tho...
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Phyllis Dubberstone - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 17:51:20 EST ID:IIsxRMZh No.398670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398663
A handy way to deal with the surplus population you don't want around. Great for keeping minorities out of the way and poor. So many wins!


How to broach the topic of basic income with Americans by Emma Dinningway - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 15:02:46 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398589 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just call it a tithe. Have everyone pay in 10% of their income and have the total amount collected be split by the number of adult American citizens and be distributed evenly to each citizen. Since the top 10% have 75% of the money and the bottom 50% have 1% of the money, if you take 10% of their income it's going to fund this setup so that most people are getting back more than they pay in so everyone will love it. Since the percentages and amounts everyone pays in and receives are the same, everyone will think it's fair and since it's in the bible everyone will love it.

Explain to the republicans that you don't have to declare people incapable of working in order to have them get this money so it will not discourage them from working and it will give them the capital they need to make business investments for themselves and help increase self sufficiency. It will also cut out government waste since there are no agencies staffed by people who don't care and do a bad job taking large pay cuts for making the process harder and more annoying for everyone. If you just cut everyone a check, everyone is free to make their own decisions for how to spend it. This is something that will give people opportunities in life and help in case they fall on hard times immediately when they need it without having to jump through hoops to get it.
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Augustus Pabblestock - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:09:52 EST ID:rSCOCuPW No.398633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398632
>All Republicans hate all unions apparently, and nobody wants to pay fucking dues for a union that doesn't do anything for them when we have that level of power.
>It would probably increase entrepreneurship a great deal
>It would pretty much improve every aspect of health care overnight.
For all this to happen, we still need to decouple health insurance from full time employment. Health insurance is the reason people work shitty jobs for as long as they do & is a huge bargaining chip for union negotiations.
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Molly Bussleridge - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 14:30:52 EST ID:HE2yFY7p No.398634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398633
Figure out how to sell it then.
Jesus was a well known practitioner of free healthcare or something... idk

IMO, there is just some critical mass of people traveling to public care and single payer countries that we will eventually reach and then it will happen in the US. I've never met a single American who had anything bad to say about the UK's system, no matter how conservative. Rich Englishmen bitch a lot about it until they come here.

Thanks for reminding me I lose my insurance next month. Fuck.
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:15:40 EST ID:hEFIx0MO No.398637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398628
Even if Trump's tax bill doesn't crash in the Senate the estate tax will be brought back as soon as dems take back control which will likely be 2020. Dems will run on a platform of disassembling Trump's legislation and taxes will be near top of the list.

What's funny is they might not even get tax reform through at this point. Senate gop seems adamant about keeping the individual mandate repeal in the bill. Once the number crunching is done and news outlets start reporting what a repeal is actually going to do to people's premiums, gop senators with a high volume of middle class constituents will find it hard to vote repeal.
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Matilda Wablingmare - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 09:19:51 EST ID:RN7zVAgz No.398644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wholeheartedly support the measures suggested in this thread. Seriously. As a non-American, this would give rise to an unprecedented rise in r&d in China and Europe as the brain-drain dumps the US back into the stone-age.
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Lillian Messlehood - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 00:16:55 EST ID:l0jUbEaV No.398651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398644

lol, what? if a universal basic income were provided to the citizenry their education and skill levels would rise in direct relationship. it would be more of a brain magnet than a drain. centers of learning would flourish.


Fake News as Propaganda tools? by Jed123 - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 08:44:14 EST ID:hQGAr5kZ No.398643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I think fake news are more than shitposting nowadays:

https://hubpages.com/politics/How-Fake-News-will-Ruin-Society
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Cornelius Pimmergold - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 00:06:01 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398643
Well yeah, that's what tinfoil is about too. Someone can't take effective action to improve their self and the world if their basis of knowledge is bullshit. Disinfo acts like dissonance on social media and in the real world, encouraging more lines to be drawn in the sand over different beliefs, and limiting the spread of public epiphanies by the information and people people pay attention to.


just... by Molly Bambletatch - Tue, 15 Aug 2017 00:04:59 EST ID:1jhockq+ No.395716 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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as this board devolves into a shit-cyclone of hatred a moment of bliss to recognise that anarchists and antifa saved cornel west's life from neo-fascists in charlottesville
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4i61_12SGY
raise the left fist, brothers, we will resist!
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Augustus Fackleham - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 22:44:39 EST ID:SHyyI25x No.398560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398556

That's why I love killer Mike. Not only does he call out police with his lyrics but clergy.

Conditions create a villain, the villain is givin' vision
The vision becomes a vow to seek vengeance on all the vicious
Liars and politicians, profiteers of the prisons
The forehead engravers, enslavers of men and women
Includin' members of clergy that rule on you thru religion
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Augustus Fackleham - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 23:02:17 EST ID:SHyyI25x No.398561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398556

Good song link BTW.
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Augustus Fackleham - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 23:03:22 EST ID:SHyyI25x No.398562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398561

Damn it I posted the wrong image. I have too many funny news screenshots from local news all over the country lmfao.
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Edward Sabbleweck - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 22:47:26 EST ID:E0iKQ/s8 No.398619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398560
They strip your kids to the nude and tell 'em God will forgive them
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Sidney Fuckingdale - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 00:13:18 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398560
Hell yeah, its good to critique how church organizations can interfere with movements for justice (or are corrupt). But critiques should go both ways. Yeares before Ferguson people were already being killed by the police with more frequency and it was church organizations that were pushing for reform and bringing attention to what was going on, as well as small anarchist groups too, with very different tactics and similar short-term goals, but different long-term goals. Instead of jamming the schism between these different perspectives and groups I think people should seek common ground while respecting the differences that exist. A la the St. Paul principles, a separation of time and place for different protests or whatever, that have different levels of conflict. Not just libertarian coalitions forming, but a broader base then that including as many people and beliefs as possible. Working together when they can, and doing their own thing when they can't.

Here's another good one:
>Danielle Ponder - Criminalized
https://vimeo.com/116695078


A day after grandstanding about morals on the senate floor, Flake reminds up Republicans have none by Fanny Drammlestock - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 09:46:00 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.398183 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://theintercept.com/2017/10/24/after-day-of-feuding-jeff-flake-and-bob-corker-join-trump-to-upend-a-major-consumer-protection/


Don't be fooled by Jeff Flake's grandstanding the other day, he has no morals or values, just like the rest of Republicans. He's only upset that Trump is getting in the way of licking corporations boots efficiently like he hoped would happen when Republicans gained total control. If you need proof, just look at his vote to roll back protections for consumers that stopped corporations from putting stuff in the fine print that would essentially make it impossible for consumers to sue in class action lawsuits. This is the shit they do.

This is why if you pay attention to actual policy and you aren't a psychopathic billionaire, there is no way you turn out republican. The only ones who are republicans ignore it when laws like this are passed. They ignore when republicans roll back internet privacy laws or internet neutrality even when the public overwhelmingly supports it. They ignore when the government takes away people's legal rights to fight back against rich and powerful corporations. They ignore when the Republicans try to take away healthcare from millions of low income Americans to finance a tax cut for the wealthy. Do not be fooled by grandstanding speeches about morals from Republicans, because they have none.
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Charles Turveybury - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:16:54 EST ID:oYZD+Ql9 No.398455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398449

We don't really know the reasons for that though. The power structure in geopolitics is starting to resemble the 19th century and you already see increasing tension between the powers.

The real question is whether nukes have made war too costly, but when we find out that, it's already too late isn't it.
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Charles Turveybury - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 13:16:54 EST ID:oYZD+Ql9 No.398456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398449

We don't really know the reasons for that though. The power structure in geopolitics is starting to resemble the 19th century and you already see increasing tension between the powers.

The real question is whether nukes have made war too costly, but when we find out that, it's already too late isn't it.
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Wesley Fivingham - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:21:18 EST ID:y4EuAgoL No.398460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398449

It's called advanced capitalism. Most of the imperialism and warfare that expanded to put entire people's and nations under the heel of higher classes has already been done in history. Why do you think the US has military bases all over? The same reason our goods are produced by the 3rd world. After ww2 States began to integrate the proletariat into a bourgeoise logic through "social democracy" making things appear less brutal, when in fact the nation's that once had wars waged against them more actively are under the heel of a smarter Western counter insurgency. This exists prevent the third world nations from rising against the neo colonialism that comes with organizations like the IMF/world bank. This smarter form of counter insurgency means manipulating world events covertly,drones,puppet wars,secret prisons, funding States who will crush repression to these things, etc. You bet your ass that if someone steps out of line and wanders too far from US interests that bombs will eventually drop though.

TL;Dr things didn't get better or more free. The powers that be just began to rule more intelligently after ww2 after realizing the threats of revolution were always immanent in despotic societies. After the coldwar it advanced even more, to what we see today. A world of slaves shaking hands with their masters. Though that is changing thus the reasoning behind the "return to the brutal 19th century" reactions worldwide.
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Wesley Fivingham - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 17:26:11 EST ID:y4EuAgoL No.398462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398460
>>funding States who will crush resistance to these things

Fix'd
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Wesley Bimmleridge - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 01:03:41 EST ID:i+8mSKdH No.398517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398434
Got that right, and not only for political purposes. Its amazing how important having a penpal can be when you're behind bars.

>>398449
Yeah okay, but the war in Afghanistan is the longest US war in history, and the US has been engaged in wars pretty consistently since the close of WW2.

>>398455
Another reason may be due to the interconnections of the economy now. Also we got dangerously close to MAD a couple times during the Cold War.

>>398460
Exactly, to get loans from the IMF or World Bank the country had to pass certain policy. If they refused, no loan, and the corporations would take their factories to where a country did obey and there were poor working conditions and few regulations.

>This smarter form of counter insurgency means manipulating world events covertly,drones,puppet wars,secret prisons, funding States who will crush repression to these things, etc.
Sounds like a different kind of war, not between states, but against their people.


/pol/tube General Thread by Caroline Docklelene - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:56:12 EST ID:ndNw7doq No.397137 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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General discussion of /pol/tube and live events going on in the tube. Technical problems can be discussed further on /420/.

>/pol/tube - http://taima.tv/r/pol
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Priscilla Sellernod - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:09:44 EST ID:7BTeZD49 No.398453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398451
Thanks for confirming that you have absolutely no counter-argument other than erecting a strawman and knocking it down. I guess my point stands uncontested.
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Fuck Feshshit - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 12:24:21 EST ID:gp6T3cJ4 No.398454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398453
The right are the ONLY people who ever say "let's not politicize a tragedy," you ninny. The left simply points out that, per capita, Christians, Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and atheists in America are statistically far more likely to be killed by a psychopathic white gun nut than a Muslim extremist.

You're dumb and your arguments are facile and not worth addressing. Your only claim was that 'leftists' imply that Christian victims of mass shootings 'had it coming', which is so obviously fucking stupid that actually gave me a small stroke when I read your post. If anything, its the Right that DESPERATELY latch onto identity politics during violent incidents and say, "SEE! MUSLIMS ARE STILL DANGEROUS, TOLD YOU!" or the even more insane, the future variant "THE SHOOTER LIKED ANTIFA ON FB, BET THE MEDIA WON'T REPORT ON LEFTIST POLITICAL VIOLENCE". Y'all are desparate to avoid actually addressing the causes of acts of mass violence, so y'all always turn it into id politics or the fall back of apolitical thoughts and prayers coupled with a call not to politicize the tragedy. Or, my favorite, THE MENTAL HEALTH BOOGEYMAN OOOOOOOO, while also drastically reducing people's access to mental health care ans voting to ease restrictions on gun purchasing by the mentally ill.

Fuck off dude, you suck.
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Priscilla Mummerville - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 15:47:31 EST ID:aJDiVQCS No.398458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398453
why would i have a counter-argument to a non-argument in the first place?

>strawman
that's literally you. you propped up the "leftists hate other people, they said they had it coming." none of the above posters said that. you're a hypocrite of most blatant kind.

you:
>I love how it's #NotAllMuslims
also you:
>it's thinly veiled "they had it coming" from YOU LEFTISTS.
you argument is about

you:
>you have absolutely no counter-argument other than erecting a strawman and knocking it down.
also you:
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Barnaby Crendleshit - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:07:40 EST ID:5IdieRNJ No.398469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So yeah, it was Domestic violence. Guy wanted to kill his mother-in-law and decided the best was to light up the church she goes to (but wasn't at the day of the attack)


Also, MORE fun facts. He legally bought all his guns even with a DD because the fucking Air Force never filed the paperwork into the federal system, so it never came up in checks.
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Fucking Shittinglock - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 11:01:55 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.398526 Report Quick Reply
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/08/corey-lewandowski-carter-page-email-244689

>Former Trump campaign manager Corey Lewandowski said Tuesday night his "memory has been refreshed" regarding his email exchange with Carter Page in which the former foreign policy adviser requested Lewandowski's permission to travel to Moscow.

>Page, who testified last week before the House Oversight Committee as a part of their ongoing probe into Russian election meddling in 2016, told congressional investigators in testimony revealed Monday that he had asked he former Trump campaign chief and Hope Hicks, now the White House communications director, about his trip to Moscow in 2016 in which he met with Russian officials and discussed the presidential campaign.


05.11.2017. Revolution in Russia. by Hamilton Bocklechine - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 09:04:15 EST ID:JbyaxTcG No.398372 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Perhaps in Russia there will be a revolution! Cook the popcorn!!! Think about what to do in the future with Russia's nuclear arsenal. After the revolution, Russia will fall into 15 independent republics. Part of the territory will be taken by China (China has already bought part of the territories of Russia). The Kuriles will be seized by Japan.In Russia, people will go against each other! Everything will be very serious. PUTIN MUST DIE !!!
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Augustus Cegglebutch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 19:38:47 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.398466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398374
> No independent Chechnya.
Confirmed bullshit
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Augustus Cegglebutch - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 19:44:21 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.398467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398404
A borderline failed state like Mexico is not comparable to Putin's supreme rule in Russia. In mexico you get disappeared for going against the drug cartels not because you criticised the president (unless its for his relations with drug cartels)
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Barnaby Mobbleford - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:02:45 EST ID:vIPPdauo No.398472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398372
>15 Republics
>whoever centralizes power will immediately move to take the only thing that has kept the Russian economy alive
>Everywhere else will essentially starve/be absorbed/invaded
>Chechnya will probably be the only independent area afterwards

China already has more soft power than Russia and is believed to be encroaching on its sphere of influence. Natural geopolitical rivals as one's power wanes and the other waxes would either accept subservience of result in conflict anyways.

That nuclear arsenal has been fucked for a long time, there was one which was unguarded, holding a massive stock (serious) for a ridiculous amount of time and only discovered because it was intercepted by a foreign gov when (IIRC) the mob tried to sell it and linked back.
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Charlotte Darthood - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:29:34 EST ID:WjzSuFK/ No.398473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398467

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Iguala_mass_kidnapping

This was over dissent not drug mafias. It's not a unique tactic to use powerful mafias to crush dissent either, Mexico didn't invent it and places like Italy and Russia are both guilty of it.



Then people respond with? Things like this. Same riot gear you'd see cops in Russia and America wearing yet the anarchists and demonstrators seem to go way more all out? In Russia if this happened there'd be crickets. In America? Maybe a few liberals yelling "no justice no peace".

https://youtu.be/CrlQhnw8If4
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Charlotte Darthood - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:33:30 EST ID:WjzSuFK/ No.398474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398473

Also fun fact Mexican riot police are trained and armed by the American ones and of course all the world's tear gas from Israel among a few other places.


What do people REALLY mean when they say "Globalists"? by Angus Tootway - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 09:19:38 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.397506 Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've seen the word popping up more and more in certain circles and I have a feeling like it is being misused. What exactly is this word supposed to allude to?
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Phineas Sammerhuck - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 00:47:22 EST ID:qEHKrfnJ No.398442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398441
I like to dive in and out moral relativism too and it does tend to make things confusing, especially in the mornings.
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Nathaniel Pockgold - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 00:49:37 EST ID:qIUC5SK3 No.398443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398442
I'm not a relativist, just being flippant. You didn't actually respond to the content of my post so it's hard to do much else. But here's a freebie: "multiethnic nationalism that grants rights and protections to its constituent cultural groups without being dominated by them, is actually genocide" is a pretty flimsy take outside the old echochamber. Even normals don't buy that shit. Not saying it can't go places but you need to make it less obviously dumb first. Workshop it a bit.
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Phineas Sammerhuck - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 01:12:52 EST ID:qEHKrfnJ No.398444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398443
>"multiethnic nationalism that grants rights and protections to its constituent cultural groups without being dominated by them, is actually genocide"
Did i said that? It seams like you and i are interested in talking about slightly different things. Nevertheless i appreciate your postings.
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Nathaniel Pockgold - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 01:28:44 EST ID:qIUC5SK3 No.398445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398444
Nope, that was me. Multi-ethnic nationalism was sort of my main theme there. So I naturally assumed you actually read it, and that's what you were connecting with "genocide." I guess you could be mad at my extremely uncontroversial assertion that cultures necessarily evolve and exist in conversation with one another, but to assume that felt uncharitable. Nevertheless I, too, appreciate your postings, as disconnected and vague as they are. We all have something to contribute, after all.
nb
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Phineas Sammerhuck - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 03:45:49 EST ID:qEHKrfnJ No.398448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398445
I'm not mad, but it is understandable that one would assume that with all the passive-aggression typically accompanying political discussions here.
I actually brought up genocide before that in >>398429 (webm) and since your reply to that seamed contrarian in nature i replied to you with "Genocide is bad MKAY" because i assumed that you are advocating genocide by ethnic replacement.
I'm not sure why you brought up multi-ethnics nationalism, the very idea seams wrong since ethnicity is what keeps people together in the first place and having multiple ethnicities in a single country leads to national division and segregation of said peoples into lower and higher castes.
I agree that cultures aren't timeless, static things, but that doesn't mean that multiculturalism should be encouraged or that borders shouldn't be protected.


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