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Big troll thread by Sophie Fusslestirk - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 15:32:07 EST ID:NY3ouz89 No.389496 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you reconcile your political beliefs (left-wing nanny-state or right-wing puritanical state) with your political actions (i.e, candidates you support)? I'm guessing most of the people in the USA here voted for Trump or Hillary or whomever, but that candidate - at least on the surface - takes a staunch "anti-drug" stance.

Shouldn't we be more vocal about making candidates support decriminalization and legalization of drugs, on all areas of the spectrum? It seems on both sides the "leaders" of the left and right both agree on being against this, which is a huge problem for progress.

All too often I hear some right winger railing about how "bleeding heart liberals are ruining dope" while simultaneously sucking the cock of Hitler who would ultimately consider them a weed-smoking/dope-slamming degenerate. An act of profound stupidity.

Similarly, the lefties don't acknowledge the invasive piss-test rehab that we put drug offenders through nor the center-left's ardent support of the "drug war" (at least in the USA) and the horrors it has inflicted.


I'm tired of hypocrisy from everybody and political people trying to claim drug use as their particular political belief's chic.

I personally believe we should immediately free all non-violent drug offenders, reinstate their voting rights, legalize weed at least and decriminalize all drugs, and offer state-run rehab programs for those who want out and leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

Where are the candidates that support decriminalization and legalization? (not limited to the USA)

How can we mobilize together, centrists, lefties and righties, to achieve the goals of decriminalization, clemency, normalization and legalization?
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David Sinnerwell - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 16:02:37 EST ID:deLgIbRQ No.389596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389496
>with your political actions (i.e, candidates you support)

That's the problem with the USA now. The extent of 99% of people's political actions is candidates they support or maybe $5/month to the Sierra Club.

Change will only occur when people are willing to do more, by taking consistant, strategic actions against things they feel need to change, be stopped, or be altered. Politicians are ignorant ("the internet is a series of tubes!") and represent themselves and the wealty, not the greater nation. Action must be taken and communities must be built by people of large scales that are strategic and can stand against that which is causing such widespread poverty and destruction of the environment.

Also, social media is shit and a cancer on us all
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Samuel Sellyhood - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:20:38 EST ID:VLZSAHSu No.389597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389584
True that. Although there are exceptions to partisanship, like the blue dogs, conservative Democrats who occasionally break with the party-line to vote in favor of a Republican bill. Been plenty of ideological shifts within both major parties as well, pic related.

>>389596
>Action must be taken and communities must be built by people on large scales
Yes! This is the next movement (i hope), connecting existing organizations and networks and building new ones based in neighborhoods. i.e. the Neighborhood Action Councils: https://portlandassembly.com/wp-content/uploads/NAC-GUIDE.pdf

>Politicians [..] represent themselves and the wealthy, not the greater nation.
Definitely an important elaboration, see Testing Theories of American Politics: Elites, Interest Groups, and Average Citizens: https://scholar.princeton.edu/sites/default/files/mgilens/files/gilens_and_page_2014_-testing_theories_of_american_politics.doc.pdf

Someone posted a good counter to the above essay awhile back, calling into question the accuracy of the data, because reasons. Anyone know what that was?
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Nicholas Ducklebanks - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:41:02 EST ID:NY3ouz89 No.389629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389584
I agree completely. We are going up against the two-party system and a hidden coalition within them (the "drug-free/drug-war" coalition) which is what makes these goals so difficult.
>>389572
Getting to the point where it's possible to support decriminalization or mandate your candidate supports it without being investigated by the FBI for drug trafficking seems key.

>>389597
The so-called "blue dogs" and other socially conservative democrats could be seen as just a big an obstacle as the Republican base.

There are libertarian-leaning republicans out there who might support clemency, decriminalization, and legalization but few have the balls to speak out about it.
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Polly Honeywater - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:21:01 EST ID:N+M5jlMw No.389738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389496
Lanaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Wesley Pullernidging - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:30:47 EST ID:NY3ouz89 No.389741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389738


Google starts flagging offensive content in search results by Phyllis Shittingford - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 16:31:17 EST ID:bVaUMN7o No.389500 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>With growing criticism over misinformation in search results, Google is taking a harder look at potentially "upsetting" or "offensive" content, tapping humans to aid its computer algorithms to deliver more factually accurate and less inflammatory results.
>The humans are Google's 10,000 independent contractors who work as what Google calls quality raters. They are given searches based on real queries to score the results, and they operate based on guidelines provided by Google.
>On Tuesday they were handed a new one: to hunt for "Upsetting-Offensive" content such as hate or violence against a group of people, racial slurs or offensive terminology, graphic violence including animal cruelty or child abuse or explicit information about harmful activities such as human trafficking, according to guidelines posted by Google.
>The goal: to steer people with queries such as "did the Holocaust happen" to trustworthy websites and not to websites that engage in falsehoods or hate speech.

Archive link is messy:
https://archive.fo/CJF3H

Alternatives to Google
https://startpage.com/
https://ixquick.eu
https://searx.me/

Alternative to Youtube:
https://vid.me
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Edwin Fuckingshit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:56:06 EST ID:8Jh2i/ky No.389589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389587
It's also prohibited to post blatant racism, other hatespeech and dox here and mods will delete it. (Not if they are anything but lax on enforcing it though).
That is basically what google is doing.

They don't want their search results to be astroturfed by fucking NAZIS, get a hold of yourself. And if they hire a bunch of people from Bangladesh or let an algorithm delete them, the end result is the same.
The only difference is the irrational fear of AI coming from crank sites. The solution: stop reading crank.
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Archie Fallerdock - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:08:42 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.389591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389587

'If You're Not Paying, You're The Product"

Zuckerberg covered this as well when he said as much: if you don't like the way we run Facebook, don't use it.

Now, since Google is a Publicly Traded company, you can become a shareholder and make your feelings heard at the shareholder meetings. Other than that, stop using Gmail or any Google services.
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Oliver Blonderbury - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 13:11:27 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.389592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389587
but this is /pol/ not /privateenterprise/

also, you oppose google by using duck duck go. their shareholders won't give a rat's ass until the bottomline starts dwindling.
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Frederick Bunstone - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:18:34 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.389593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389592
>>Thinks when he doesn't search on google it affects their bottom line
>>Is giving advice on 'private enterprise'
O-kay.
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Polly Honeywater - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:06:32 EST ID:N+M5jlMw No.389734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389500
I'm getting old-like. I wont be able to catch all the dystopian curve balls you throw


Just a reminder by Hedda Dasslewirk - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:14:35 EST ID:FZwyp5B6 No.389297 Report Reply Quick Reply
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That illegals aren't "stealing" jobs. Employers are willingly hiring them for cheap labor and exploiting these people.

So cannot steal that which was freely and willingly given to you.
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Frederick Nurrymitch - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:34:47 EST ID:zA8Zcg02 No.389664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389662
fundamentalist christians are demonstrably more of a threat to our freedom than fundamentalist muslims anyway.

christians fought & won the right to deny women certain legal health treatments & procedures & some couples the right to get married.

no one has, nor is it possible to "enact sharia law" in the US.
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Nicholas Snodbanks - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:37:07 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389655
>Regardless of whether it 'hurts' the nation or not, illegal immigration is currently illegal and thus, is enforced.

Then why don't we see ICE going after the other 30% of illegals? That's still a sizable chunk of illegal immigrants.

Why should you admit the obvious? Because you have to be dishonest to think that this isn't born from racist motives from a portion of those that want Mexicans out. This anger generated through a demagogue going after the lowest denominators, while ignoring the real issues in our government. We worry about Mexicans and Muslims as Republicans redistribute wealth from the poor to the rich among other things such as dismantling the federal government.

And to be clear, I am not suggesting all dissenters have racist motives, only that it is definitely framed this way. We know this because of how Trump framed Mexicans as wild animals destroying our culture. In reality, we have been deporting illegals that commit serious crimes (I don't consider being illegal a serious crime) for years. Obama deported 3 million of them.

There are more Mexicans leaving than coming in.

> Neither you nor I have any idea how people would react to Canadians illegally crossing the border and living in the states.

I am 100% certain that it would be framed far differently and stick less seriously among the population, especially the racist citizens. I can take that to the bank.
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Jarvis Cusslehall - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:02:16 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.389666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389655
>>Regardless of whether it 'hurts' the nation or not, illegal immigration is currently illegal and thus, is enforced.
>>Argument from legalism
While I won't question that it IS enforced, I would question whether it ought to be enforced along this line of reasoning: was it morally justified to oppose the laws maintaining slavery while they were still on the books? If a law is unethical or unconstitutional, the citizens have a responsibility to protest it and urge their representatives about it, the enforcement branch has a responsibility to minimize enforcement and agitate for change within their command structure, the courts have the responsibility to challenge and overturn aspects of the supporting law, and the lawmakers have the responsibility to change the law. If any part of that mechanism doesn't play ball, the rest have to push on it.

That something is a law is not a sufficient justification for its existence in a constitutional republic.
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Nicholas Snodbanks - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:15:13 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389666
Better articulation than my reply.
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Polly Honeywater - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:01:52 EST ID:N+M5jlMw No.389732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389297
this point is moot


Ivanka to be molested in West Wing by Basil Bunhood - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 16:16:57 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.389669 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, Trumpy has moved his daughter, and favorite fuck toy, into a WH office. Even though she has no job or position. With it comes security clearance.

WTF is this about? Is he lining up his kids to take over when he steps down/leaves/dies?

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/03/21/520965076/ivanka-trumps-move-to-the-white-house-raises-questions-about-ethics
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Molly Smallbury - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 00:50:58 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.389709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389703
Can't wait for the sane parts of the GOP to go "fuck party loyalty" and rightfully end this nightmare of an administration.

No transfer of power to Pence or ANY of the cabinet. We need to press the reset button with a completely new white house team altogether.
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Simon Dragglebork - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:31:01 EST ID:ZL/M6cbo No.389710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389709
lol
those stubborn old farts would sooner see the country in ashes and rubble than admit they were wrong
....pretty fucking hilarious for people who put so little thought in to begin with
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Simon Dragglebork - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 02:32:58 EST ID:ZL/M6cbo No.389711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so concerned with looking week that all effort goes into the appearance rather than you know ensuring that they are not actually acting week
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Walter Blublingmedging - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 08:34:19 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.389717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389709
>Sane parts of the GOP
Don't hold your breath...
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Polly Honeywater - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 17:00:18 EST ID:N+M5jlMw No.389731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389669
#giveitarest


Honestly wondering by Jenny Horringwut - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:39:02 EST ID:zFzMSPLC No.389599 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How is Trump racist? Why is he that bad?
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Ernest Sinningstark - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 12:17:47 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.389628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389620
>But is there any definitive proof Trump is racist?
>Pft no. None at all.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/sep/27/hillary-clinton/true-hillary-clinton-says-federal-government-sued-/
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Oliver Gillystuck - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:32:27 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.389639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
not gonna bother. we did this a bazillion times during the election with the same result everytime. anti-trump side provides a bunch of damning cases illustrating this, pro-trump side just says, "that's not enough," no matter how damning the evidence.

>>389605
>big deal
>sarcasm, deflection, misderection, and outright denial
case in point.
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Sidney Nenningpore - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:13:51 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From Mafia Don: Donald Trumps 40 years of Mob Ties (Wriiten a year before election).

"The case of the undocumented immigrant workers
For example, Mr. Trump recently took issue with one of the other Republican
candidates who brought up that Trump had hired illegal immigrants to work on the
Trump Tower project. The incident happened in 1980 when Trump was demol-
ishing the Bonwit Teller building to make way for Trump Tower. Eventually Trump
was found guilty and made to pay four million dollars over it. Mr. Trump’s rebuttal

to this in the debate was that “things were different then” and “it all worked out
fine.” (Meaning he got his project built cheaper because of being able to pay the
illegal immigrant laborers less.)
Maybe he’s right about things being different then, but they couldn’t have been
that different if he was found guilty and made to pay such a stiff fine.
In any event, let’s allow that almost every builder in New York at the time would
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Edward Pickstock - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:51:06 EST ID:nSpV6TpJ No.389658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8Zam8cqth8
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Fanny Bonkinfuck - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:40:45 EST ID:oENpklLJ No.389769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE


We need socialists who practice what they preach! by Lydia Bimblefoot - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 15:39:30 EST ID:Yiq0urtO No.389339 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Goddamn, I can't believe it. Even Drumpf pays more tax than Bernie, who was my choice.

We need real liberals, not these sacks of shit.
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Graham Billinghood - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 19:24:31 EST ID:cBPyNYtq No.389456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389366
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Graham Billinghood - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 19:27:34 EST ID:cBPyNYtq No.389457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389405
guess who took office in 09 and had all those bail outs.
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David Sinnerwell - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:43:47 EST ID:deLgIbRQ No.389594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>389339

>We need real liberals

Liberals suck just as much as the right wing politicians. We need self governing communities and bio-regions that are smaller and more centered on the resources they are able to sustainably produce and grow, instead of hyper-globalization and politicians.

Death to politicians!
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David Sinnerwell - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:45:52 EST ID:deLgIbRQ No.389595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389594
Also, OP seems like bait, trying to incite rage from the right
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Jenny Horringwut - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:24:53 EST ID:zFzMSPLC No.389598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389360
severely underrated post


Drain that Swamp! by Charles Sizzlebot - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 20:08:19 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.389458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I seriously can't believe that idiots thought he would drain the swamp. They trusted him to betray his own social group, ie rich fucks, in favor of poor people he obviously views as inferior to himself. As the rest of us expected, he's installed industry shills in every important part of the government. This is a golden age for the exploiters.

>Other expressions of relief came from investors and executives in the pharmaceutical industry. They see Gottlieb as one of their own, with good reason. He has served on advisory boards or held directorships at six drug manufacturing companies at least, and received substantial stipends from many more.

>From 2013 through 2015 — the extent of a database maintained by the Department of Health and Human Services — Gottlieb received some $413,700 received from drug companies for consulting, speaking or other services. In 2015 alone, he collected $199,951 from eight drug companies, including GlaxoSmithKline, Squibb, Pfizer and Valeant. All are likely to have regulatory business with the FDA in coming years.

>Gottlieb also is a venture partner at the investment firm New Enterprise Associates, which claims current investments in 50 biopharma firms, 29 medical device firms and 21 healthcare services firms.

>So it shouldn’t come as a surprise that Big Pharma will be happy to have Gottlieb on board. “Thank God it's Gottlieb," investment analyst Brian Skorney of Robert W. Baird & Co. told clients in a research note quoted by Reuters. "We view this as a favorable development for the sector."

>http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-hiltzik-gottlieb-fda-20170315-story.html
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Clara Blazzlestone - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:44:50 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389463
You have a point. It's just frustration. People in my own family straight face support him and never admit he's fucking up.

Some people aren't reachable. The best thing we can do is call our reps and tell them that gerrymandering is very important to us. This is partly why we have the system that we have. It's what allowed Repubs to take so much power and what allowed Repubs to bulwark Obama so much.

Other than getting out there and protesting and reaching those that can be reached, theres nothing much to do other than to inform ourselves and complain. It what prevents me from losing my marbles or becoming apathetic to the insanity.

What else can be done? We can hope to regain seats in 2018. We can possibly apply pressure with this Russia connection and false allegation thing of Trump on wiretapping, but then if he's impeached AND kicked out, we still get Pence who is Saudi Arabia lite. And after that, we have Ryan.
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Clara Blazzlestone - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 21:53:41 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389465
Also, there are some Repubs with some sense, but most are using Trump to further their ends. This is too good of an opportunity for them. The silver lining in this is that this presidency may wake many up to how fucked up the Repub party is to the point of such public outrage that repubs will fall in line just to ensure they stay in congress. Less and less want to get involved with this new budget and healthcare. It most likely wont pass because no one with a brain wants to put their signature on these bills.

My hope is that Trumps run is so horrendous and the disenfranchised wakes up and picks someone like Bernie to be their leader and learns their lesson like you say.
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Sidney Pickham - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 10:18:53 EST ID:HpJPm84P No.389582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389463
>the white working class felt so disenfranchised that this time they voted against their own self-interests.
i think there's a flaw in your logic. you fail to consider that the white working class is interested in racism & bigotry, even at a financial cost to them.
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Nell Billingshit - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:58:57 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.389588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389582
>why arent you considering this thing that's based on nothing, your logic is flawed because you're focusing on reality

nb because goddamn i cant believe you honestly think thats a reasonable stance to hold
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Nicholas Wicklebere - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 12:56:07 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.389590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389582
The south has a record of having such an interest (see Goldwater, Wallace), but the working class's racism is just a function of another race being scapegoated as their enemy.
They hate the people who are responsible for their personal financial situation, which they've been told are Mexicans stealing jobs and Blacks driving tax-payer funded Cadillacs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rvoS0qE0oA
This is what we are dealing with,
People who don't believe in global warming because they've been told that such a belief will take away their jobs.
People who voted for Trump because they've been told that he'll give them jobs, but depend on Obamacare afford healthcare


/Roj/ava thread by John Chackleford - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 11:29:34 EST ID:uR9+BrFh No.388822 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>What is Rojava?
Rojava is a confederation of autonomous cantons in northern Syria. In the wake of the syrian civil war, the kurds, under the leadership of the PYD, established the YPG/J and declared syrian kurdistan (Rojava) autonomous. They have succeeded in creating a direct-democratic, decentralized, communalist society under the ideology of democratic confederalism. Democratic confederalism, established by the PKK-founder Serok Apo, can be described as pluralist, socialist and feminist. Rojava is considered to be the most important revolutionary struggle today.

Reading list.
http://www.biehlonbookchin.com/rojavas-threefold-economy/
http://www.kurdishquestion.com/article/3830-rojava-has-revolution-eliminated-the-state
https://crimethinc.com/2015/09/23/feature-understanding-the-kurdish-resistance-historical-overview-eyewitness-report
http://www.warscapes.com/reportage/revolutionaries-bethnahrin
http://www.lookleftonline.org/2016/12/interview-with-mlkp-rojava/
https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/no-this-is-a-genuine-revolution/
http://www.weareplanc.org/blog/a-real-revolution-is-a-mass-of-contradictions-interview-with-our-member-in-rojava/

I also recommend the documentaries on Rojava on youtube (there is a few). Also check out circlejerk AMA's by foreign volunteers, they are very informative.

Here are some maps to the syrian civil war, in which the armed forces of Rojava has been the most effective enemy of Daesh.
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James Minkinnot - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:42:00 EST ID:xUivrFEn No.389414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389140

US can invade ıraq and show terrorism as a reason

when turkey try to finish up terrorist groups in its borders they became imperalist murderers killing minority people

same old same old
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Clara Wibberseg - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:07:27 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.389419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389414
When the Arab Spring sprung, leaders like Gaddafi and Assad had to wield their armies to fight rebel factions attempting to overthrow the governments.

The USA and several international groups suddenly decided that these acts of government self-defense are actually crimes against humanity and human rights violations worthy of having the government overthrown.

We sold guns to factions in Libya, who won, and then Gaddafi was raped with a bayonett and murdered by gunshot, and his government, one of the best governments in Africa/ME, was overthrown by 2 separate factions fighting for control of Libya currently while Libya has fallen into chaos after ~45 highly-successful years under Gaddafi, Gaddafi being the Libyan nationalist who enacted a coup de tat against the previous semi-fascist regime of Libya under Idris.

We sold guns to factions in Syria, too, and almost had Assad overthrown. Thankfully, Russia stepped in and started pounding the terrorists we sold guns to as well as the other various terrorist groups in Syria alongside the Syrian army as an ally.

When I researched into all this, I noticed one very shocking thing; When the Arab Spring was beginning, huge figureheads like the president of the USA and various European powers ran various slander campaigns against these ME leaders. The BBC spread a false report depicting 100s of thousands of Libyan school girls being turned into sex slaves (never happened, was investigated by an international crime court), and around the same time Barack Obama was accusing Assad of using geneva-convention-banned chemical weapons against civilians in Syria, another claim which has never been backed up by hard evidence and can only be considered a lie at this point in time.

I love the USA, but our government, and our military bullying, disgust me.
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Fuck Blerringway - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:25:15 EST ID:uR9+BrFh No.389424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389107
>thinking PKK is a right socialist party defending of the rights of minority's rights.

>HDP literally repressed with members and leaders being arrested because it's a kurdish organization
>illegal to create or participate in kurdish organizations
>not allowed to speak kurmanji
>kurds not even acknowledged as a minority
>mass bombings of kurdish civilians
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Fuck Blerringway - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:30:22 EST ID:uR9+BrFh No.389426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389414
That's a retarded comparison. Americas terrorists are extremists who wants to kill innocents. Turkeys terrorists are men and women who want to enjoy rights and autonomy under a free and democratic society. I saw a video on YT not long ago where turkish soilders fired into a crowd of unarmed mourning kurds of a funeral service. Even the UN has recognized the crimes commited by Turkey in bakur.
The AKP and Erdogan is fascist. See the truth, Mehmet.
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Eugene Hodgestone - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 18:54:29 EST ID:MqC/+Wc8 No.389451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389419
Couldn't have said it better myself. To add onto that, the sarin gas attack a few years ago was proven to not have been committed by the SAA, but from the "moderate rebel" factions due to the gas canisters angle of impact as well as civilian testimony.

>"We collected some witness testimony that made to appear that some chemical weapons were used, in particular nerving (sic) gas and what appears to our investigation (was) that that was used by the opponents, by the rebels," said Carla del Ponte, a member of the UN investigating team who has also served as an international war crimes prosecutor.

One more state department backed lie swept under the rug and memory holed.


Let them eat Cake by Edward Turveyridge - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:26:11 EST ID:b2+Yo/sQ No.389429 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Melania Trump calls for the ‘gift of nature,’ not health insurance, to heal sick children.
https://thinkprogress.org/melania-trump-hospital-c221842d9096#.6gynhvtyp

What do you think guys, is this just her way of telling sick kids to die quickly?
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Hannah Sumblebury - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:34:51 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.389431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389429
With Trumps comments online and in debates concerning the link of vaccines and autism, and his youngest sons behaviors, I would say it's more than likely that Melania is a hippie-dippie naturalist and a anti-vaxxer.

She probably believes that there is a link between vaccines and autism and therefore uses science as a scapegoat and clings to 'naturalistic remedies'.

I don't think she's heartless. Just delusional.
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Phineas Dredgebun - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:40:08 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.389432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's a combination of the two. She probably is so out of touch that she believes taking a kid with cancer to the park might heal them...but she is so out of touch because of how insulated from real problems her status makes her.

I mean, most likely, Antoinette thought letting them eat cake was a real solution to the problem, simply because of how out of touch she was. It doesn't take either of them off the hook though, because they created the situation that enabled them to disconnect with reality in the first place.
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Ebenezer Bittingham - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 17:15:08 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.389441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389429
she's the one member of the family that isn't involved in making policy & donald clearly doesn't respect her or her opinions. i really don't give a shit what she thinks.


Trump To Wage War Against Legal Weed by Lillian Cingercocke - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:08:03 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.388293 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well, fuck....
Where is your God now Trumpkins...

http://www.oregonlive.com/marijuana/index.ssf/2017/02/trump_administration_takes_aim.html

>Trump administration takes aim at recreational marijuana

>Sean Spicer suggested Thursday that the Trump administration will enforce federal marijuana laws in states where recreational pot is legal.

>At a White House press briefing, a reporter asked the White House press secretary how the Trump administration will differ from the Obama administration when it comes to the "state/federal conflict" over recreational marijuana.

>"There's two distinct issues here," Spicer said, "medical marijuana and recreational marijuana."

>Medical use, he said, is not in question. But recreational use, including in states like Oregon, faces a possible challenge.
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Wesley Funnerridge - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:56:51 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.389355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389353
You know what else makes America worse?

Perjury.
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Frederick Tootdock - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:13:41 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.389356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389353
The ride never ends
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Nathaniel Brossledock - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 19:28:52 EST ID:sUBj56yv No.389358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389353
Neo-Prohibitionists. Always finding stupider and stupider things to say.
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William Pockshit - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 07:18:21 EST ID:0dJZtcm2 No.389368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>388293
is that chin-chan?
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Hugh Blettingstitch - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 13:09:06 EST ID:1qezcbq/ No.389385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389368
No idea. Just some random idiot from the Tubes.


Indyref 2 by Hannah Clayworth - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 18:15:12 EST ID:DNva2Roy No.389241 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-39255181
Looks like Scotland is going to be looking for another independence referendum.
Lots of uncertainty in the fact this shit is happening around about the same time as Brexit.

What do you guys think?
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Albert Subbermat - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:16:18 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.389298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389291
>vote to ramain in the UK
>i was referring mostly to the brexit
no you weren't, you fucking retard. you were caught bullshitting, were called out on it, and are now (miserably and pathetically) trying to backpedal.

either that or you're literally retarded and can't remember what you yourself were talking about. choose one. then choose suicide.
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Frederick Sockleville - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:31:57 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.389301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389298

I was responding to a image about brexit, i was talking about brexit, perhaps it was you who was caught bullshitting with a shitty info graphic which could be taken immensely out of context to infer that scotland had 85% turnout for brexit.

im not backpeddling, the scots hardly turned out for brexit, yeah i said "the scots are lazy and dont vote" but i was referring to brexit, not the Scottish independence vote.
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Hamilton Chunnerlere - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:38:10 EST ID:IeWGbOS5 No.389302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389301
you specifically said "vote to remain in the UK." who the fuck "voted to remain in the UK" in the brexit referendum? derp. full retard.
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Frederick Sockleville - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:47:40 EST ID:mtoAMITB No.389305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389302

Oh i did too, whoops.
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Albert Fashwill - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:24:37 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.389382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389302
I've noticed that mixing up UK and EU is really common in brexit comments all around the web so I just try and read between the lines.


How to topple the most powerful country in the first world by Phineas Nombleladge - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 08:53:12 EST ID:ubcQ55yK No.389321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How to topple the most powerful country in the first world in 10 steps.

  1. Trick 15-30 idiots from the desert into believing you an talk to god

2. Tell these idiots that they will go to heaven and have a bunch of waifus if they hijack a couple planes periodically through a day and crash into like 4 different places.

3. People around the world start to panic because the media will report all of these attacks and start predicting "where will the next one be?!"

4. Do nothing for a while. Wait for retaliation.

5. Now that you've united the entire country against your 30 people (more like 25 at this point), start claiming responsibility for anything that goes wrong around the world.

5. Tell more idiots that they'll go to heaven if they sporadically attack random people for no reason, this will snowball.

6. Now everyone is paranoid because over the course of a few years "you" have killed a couple hundred people in surprise attacks.
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Cyril Fottingford - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:43:29 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.389322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389321
>lol even more because they're blaming Russia
When did we blame Russia for terrorism?
Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, Libya, have been blamed for providing state support to terrorist (to be fair, Iraq was probably innocent of that particular charge), but never Russia.
>are about to start a civil war and also nuclear holocaust with the second largest world power.
Trump is planning to nuke China? I'd heard about a potential trade war if he pursues his articulated policies, not a real war, but he's got a degree in economics, I'm sure that was all bullshit he said for votes.
Or did you mean the EU, who has a similar combined military spending?
Or did you mean Saudi Arabia?
...
Were you talking largest in terms of geopolitical and economic influence?
I don't see Trump nuking China, EU, India, or Japan...
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Oliver Sodgemitch - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 11:16:07 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.389378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>389321
I don't know how to topple the most powerful country in the world, but I do know how the most powerful country in the world topples third-world governments for personal reasons, since we've seen it all through the 20th and 21st century.
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Albert Fashwill - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:14:13 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.389380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I doubt bin Laden planned for Trump. More likely he just wanted you to invade the graveyard of empires and bleed your pocketbooks like you taught him to do with the USSR.

You even did him one better by invading Iraq too.


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