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Meme-spewing retards from the future's /k/ and /pol/ shot 5 BLM protesters in Minnesota by Walter Fuckingwater - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:11:59 EST ID:JPD6Q+hn No.391469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>http://www.cbsnews.com/news/minnesota-man-gets-15-years-for-shooting-5-black-lives-matter-protesters/?
>Minnesota man 4 ch /k/ + /pol/ poster gets 15 years for shooting 5 Black Lives Matter protesters

>Video of the shooter on his way to the shooting: https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=ec8_1448421489
>Unironically filming yourself talking about "dindus" and /pol/, and baneposting, and loli, before going to shoot 5 black people and ruining everyone's lives including your own
>your final sentence to the camera is "stay white!"
>All of this is entered into court evidence
>Along with months and months of texts of shitposting to friends about black people
>Went with a jacket with a /k/ patch with Pepe as the emblem
>Went around asking protesters to "culturally enrich" him
>Him at the protest going around antagonising people: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vj3gc91IpFE

>His lawyer UNIRONICALLY tried to argue his brain was not fully developed at 22 and he had no idea about black people or their lives when he went to the protests that day

>Only got 3 years per person shot, less if he gets out on parole

It's just memes guys, it's innocent, harmless. Most of it is ironic.
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Soviet Psychonaut - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 10:43:09 EST ID:tnyDUNWj No.391471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man, guess the ADL was justified in classifying pepe as a symbol of hate.
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Rebecca Sottingstock - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:12:49 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.391472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wonder how many more times those /pol/tards are gonna keep using the "it's just fun & games guys! We board of peace!"

As for this guy getting jail, good. Fuck that piece of shit.
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Phoebe Nicklelock - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 11:47:21 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.391474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yes but the big question is will they separate him from the general population?

If not, he's gonna have some health inspectin' to do.
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Nell Heppershaw - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 13:11:49 EST ID:VO8z8OsT No.391477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391469
This is the "white culture" the alt right is fighting to preserve.
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George Hummlewire - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:17:59 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.391484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391477
DEFEND OUR SACRED ARYAN CULTURE! WOOP-WOOP!
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Fanny Craddlelot - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 19:27:09 EST ID:Nla6yjir No.391485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391477
Nope.
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Barnaby Shittingbury - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:07:33 EST ID:8Jh2i/ky No.391486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How this guy isn't getting 5 charges of attempted murder and terrorism charges?

This guy shouldn't be let loose on society ever again.
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Hamilton Cepperspear - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:53:21 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.391488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391485
Yup.
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Hamilton Cepperspear - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:54:15 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.391489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391486
He's white, so he isn't a terrorist or a thug. He's a troubled lone wolf who's mentally ill.
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Fanny Cassleketch - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:26:09 EST ID:HZmApooN No.391491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391489
What difference does it make? He fucked over his own life just to impress his altreich buds who are probably laughing at him this very moment and won't even remember him when he gets released if he doesn't become an hero. Even if he does get paroled, he completely fucked over any ambition he had in his life to be part of "movement" that will be remembered years from now as an embarrassment.
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Martin Pobbergold - Mon, 01 May 2017 01:11:25 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.391496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391491
>what difference does spending 15 years vs probably the rest of your life in prison make?
this dude will be 37 when he gets out. that gives him plenty of time to shoot into crowds of black people again. even if you believe prisons actually rehabilitate criminals, this type of behavior is irredeemable.
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Walter Crebbledock - Mon, 01 May 2017 06:22:52 EST ID:bMjekVKn No.391497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391496
plenty of time to join the aryan brotherhood too.
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Fanny Cassleketch - Mon, 01 May 2017 07:46:52 EST ID:HZmApooN No.391498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391496
That is an angle I hadn't considered. I guess I can only hope he redirects his anger on the nazis that influenced him instead of black people in general.
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Edwin Nicklecocke - Mon, 01 May 2017 10:13:26 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.391500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hope enough dumbasses do this to the point where a massive crackdown on alt-right faggotry begins on /pol/.

Shit is so not fucking right or funny at all. Its legitimately scary.
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John Crenkinham - Mon, 01 May 2017 10:21:22 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391496
I wish we'd just hang these people and get it the fuck over with. Their families should carry around the embarrassment of knowing that people watched as their child swung by the neck until death. I mean, killing 5 people for no apparent reason is worthy of hanging, IMO.
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Soviet Psychonaut - Mon, 01 May 2017 11:06:06 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.391506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So now we can blame Islam for every single action a muslim commits?
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Charlotte Babblehall - Mon, 01 May 2017 11:40:12 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.391507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391501
I'd rather he be successfully rehabilitated, so he can understand the depth of what he's done and live his whole life bearing that weight, knowing that most people he meets will be sickened to know who he is, and agreeing with them.
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Soviet Psychonaut - Mon, 01 May 2017 12:07:45 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.391508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a thread on 8/pol/ about it and the consensus seems to be is he's a fucking retard.
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Augustus Sindlebanks - Mon, 01 May 2017 13:46:40 EST ID:t60569Ra No.391510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391500

The thing is, once they step over that line their reality is not going to be pretty. Once the alt right takes it to the next step, they'll realize they arent clashing against a bunch of stallion activists, and quickly, quickly realize they aint about that thug life when theyre getting their house lit up by OGs and thugs. the same way the KKK thought there would be "liberal pussies" at their counter demonstration, but instead ended up getting jumped by gang bangers.
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Augustus Sindlebanks - Mon, 01 May 2017 13:50:27 EST ID:t60569Ra No.391511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391510

Also they're just inferior as fuck. really. the alt right is INFERIOR. It's funny the people shouting the superiority of their race are often the worst images of whiteness, pasty ass, nerdy, fat, grease soaked, self-induced autism, meth, handle bar stache, women beating looking type mother fuckers. its a reason they always get their ass handed to them the moment their battles go up against someone who isn't a liberal stallion. they have a victim complex because they aint seen no ass and been gettin theirs kicked since preschool. they truly are nerds of the classic sense. they can easily be fuckin beat by anyone who has actually lived in the real struggle. their fuckin pussies. even the aryan brotherhood would turn their asses out if they celled up wit them. these ppl aint about that life yet they want to go to war. brah the closest thing to war the alt right understands is getting dorritos on your xbox controller.
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Augustus Sindlebanks - Mon, 01 May 2017 13:55:29 EST ID:t60569Ra No.391512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the alt right whines and whines about their protests getting attacked too. boo fucking hoo. you idiots have been cheering on "protests" getting attacked by the police since the fuckin 60s and 70s. you cheer the shit on. you champion the police. you fools have no dedication what so ever with that whiney ass victim complex. you're all bathed in first world comfort and will fight for shit you cant understand to protect it, but the moment it becomes inconvenient you leave.

What u call the left has been getting swung on and beat since literally their first mass gathering in public in America. they still go. meanwhile the alt right gets hit by one bat, and protest numbers dwindle. holy shit. you guys really want war? are you fucking idiots? stick to what you know.. the internet.
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Soviet Psychonaut - Mon, 01 May 2017 14:53:04 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.391513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391512
>What u call the left has been getting swung on and beat since literally their first mass gathering in public in America
>implying the left deserves anything more than that
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John Crenkinham - Mon, 01 May 2017 14:56:07 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391507
>I'd rather he be successfully rehabilitated.
Me too. But that's most often not a real option. Psychopathy isn't drug addiction.
>so he can understand the depth of what he's done and live his whole life bearing that weight.
It's possible he can understand the weight and just not care.

But people like this barely exist. How often does some kid kill 5 people? In the USA? Almost never. If we did decide to hang these people, it'd be a very short list of people hung in even a decade.
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John Crenkinham - Mon, 01 May 2017 14:57:58 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391512
Maybe if Antifa didn't feel like hurling quarter sticks of dynamite into peaceful Trump crowds and recording it and posting it to the internet for all the Trump fans to see, we wouldn't have these problems.
Violence creates violence. If By Any Means Necessary thinks violence is the only way, then of course they should expect nothing more than violence against themselves. When are people going to start dying is the real question.
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:06:45 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391515
>>when are people going to start dying

it's almost like the alt right spews their bullshit about white liberation, but they ignore and spit on even the hundreds of whites killed by the police state. not to mention the other races shot dead by the state. or hmm the bodies laid to rest all over the world under america, the growing islamic attack, proven to be funded by the same western forces cough cough america, cough cough suadia arabia, turkey cough. what do you mean when people start dying? ppl been dying. the alt right just cant realize this behind their moronic defense of the same system that disposes of even poor white people. fucking stallions. liberals, leftists, and the alt right are all stallions. doesn't mean im a damn fence walker.
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:09:49 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391517

Also when you belong to a group of people that en masse jumps to the support of murderous state forces, you cant ever claim non violence. you cant be like "yes we logistically and vocally support a police state, and cheer on the murders of thugs, and criminals whether they black or white" then be like "hey anti-violent!" when the people you allow to die come at you.

you idiots SUPPORT THE LAW. people against the law support endin their friends if they snitch, what makes you think a bunch of alt right nerds are gonna get a pass lmfao.
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:12:47 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391519

secondly im not here to argue or prove shit. the bottom line is get the fuck off this chan. there's no fuckin reason to be on a chan that celebrates a culture that has been attacked and repressed by the law, and all of the fearful citizens who call for more prohibition and funding to the feds and cops with your cop loving bullshit. this entire site is filled with ideas and lifestyles that would make a pig drop their jaw and get their cuff ready. so take yur fuck shit to the future where you can talk about your fears of the outside world, and how you hope the police protect your doritos and mountain dew and mamas nice house.
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John Crenkinham - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:32:14 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391517
>WAAAAAAAH
>>391519
>WAAAAAAAH YOU SUPPORT THE LAW!
>>391521
>WAAAAH LEAVE MY CHAN!
Pic related; there's you, triple-triggered-poster.

Like, nigga, you straight up are a blue-pill at this point. You've jumped-ship lol.
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:58:16 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391525

im not jumpin ship im ready to throw some fuckboys off ship howboutthat
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 15:58:58 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391525

ive been eating vitality pills all day. who the fuck wants to try me? ive got hot red blood and it's pumping FAST!
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John Crenkinham - Mon, 01 May 2017 16:07:04 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391527
You must feel like a real big man, ready to fight people you talk to on the internet, people you'll never encounter IRL.

You already did jump ship. Try to throw people off the ship and you'll end up with a lot of enemies.

But I'm doing better than you, anyway. You know what I had for breakfast? A smoothie made out of; water, skim milk, peanutbutter, bananas, greek yogurt, and my own blend of whey/collagen/bone-broth/men's multi-vitamin powders. You can't beat my vitality, bruh. I'm so vital right now.
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 16:18:52 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391530

I already have a lotta enemies bitch i had lobster and eggs for dinner with a 12oz fruit cup. my savings account is at 52k. how about you?
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William Ficklefield - Mon, 01 May 2017 16:20:40 EST ID:lcs1Tkwx No.391537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391530

fuck you do sound pretty vital. im hot right now. how about you?
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Soviet Psychonaut - Mon, 01 May 2017 16:25:58 EST ID:2TfYxlWB No.391538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391530
swap the skim milk with whole milk you fucking faggot
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Hannah Murdworth - Tue, 02 May 2017 00:26:33 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.391545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Still responding to X8

When will you guys realize that responding to that idiot is a fruitless endeavor?
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Phoebe Blottingfuck - Tue, 02 May 2017 00:49:57 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.391546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391545
Hey, I did the blocky block thing. Leave me out of this!
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Tue, 02 May 2017 16:24:53 EST ID:4p8RVaYR No.391556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391497
No. Fuckboi like that is going to be thrown in segregation, he'll be shacking up with pedophiles the next 15 years. Even if any white gang wanted him they wouldn't take him, no one's going to war for an idiot like that.

Hope they do throw him in gen pop someday though, someone will be waiting for him.
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Fuck Tillingville - Tue, 02 May 2017 17:50:45 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.391558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391545
But his posts are the closest thing this board has to comedy.
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Lydia Chuffingfield - Tue, 02 May 2017 17:56:10 EST ID:kMHRWa3R No.391559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391558

This board is not comedy?
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Betsy Hickleson - Tue, 02 May 2017 20:53:07 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.391562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391512
>meanwhile the alt right gets hit by one bat, and protest numbers dwindle

Have you even been paying attention? You idiots got your asses kicked in Berkeley of all places. You're making the mistake of thinking it's only the alt-right showing up to these protests, it's not. Antifa and the other leftist trash don't realize what they're waking up.
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lumpen !rGOAfuB3jA - Tue, 02 May 2017 21:54:42 EST ID:4p8RVaYR No.391563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391562
lol, what's that then?

And who the fuck thinks a bunch of privileged white kids from the bay area would know how to fight in the first place? Go try that shit in any part of Oakland that's still black.

Beating women and children is all you fucks are good for, Berkeley is reflective of that.
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Isabella Poddlegold - Tue, 02 May 2017 23:33:55 EST ID:e7sd8OST No.391564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391563
Many of them bussed/drove in from out of state for Berkely and been recently touring the west coast looking for fights. What a waste of money.
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George Bunbanks - Wed, 03 May 2017 00:34:34 EST ID:6T2FD4LE No.391568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the natural conclusion of their world view. Even if they got all their political wishes it still wouldn't fundamentally change their lives. They've already failed a system that is rigged in favor of white men the culture won't change in their life time to make them any less repulsive.
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Betsy Hickleson - Wed, 03 May 2017 01:53:31 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.391569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391563
> Go try that shit in any part of Oakland that's still black.

Try what? A free speech rally? That would be enough to cause a chimpout? I mean Antifa subhumans are known to be violent retards but idk why you would say that about random black people, are you racist?
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Fucking Hivingfatch - Wed, 03 May 2017 07:10:10 EST ID:QdyW4Wcf No.391570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391569
Shoo Shoo Cripplechan.
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William Chunkinlere - Wed, 03 May 2017 08:30:29 EST ID:xxKoAEbr No.391572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391569
>are you racist?
You guys really think you're being clever little reverse-psychology Machiavellis when you randomly throw lefty criticisms around, don't you?
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Lillian Grimstone - Wed, 03 May 2017 08:44:13 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.391573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391572
It's more that they really do just think of the word "racist" as nothing more than an insult. They don't understand how it actually relates to what they say.
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Isabella Sivingmire - Wed, 03 May 2017 09:47:38 EST ID:9wW3vPlN No.391577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>> Antifa and the other leftist trash don't realize what they're waking up.

lmfaoooooo. thats so funny that you think all you got to worry about is a bunch of subcultural activists and anarchists. Once you step outside the realm of protest yus fools are in for a rude awakening.
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Isabella Sivingmire - Wed, 03 May 2017 09:51:19 EST ID:9wW3vPlN No.391578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao this kid is gonna be such a punk in prison too tho, i can imagine all the snitchin hes gonna do once people step to him. please throw him in gen pop. please throw him in gen pop.
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Betsy Hickleson - Wed, 03 May 2017 10:45:55 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.391579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391577
>Once you step outside the realm of protest yus fools are in for a rude awakening.

What's that even supposed to mean? We have no intent to confront people for no reason. If you're saying black people will attack is because of our opinions I guess that means you think black people are naturally violent and impulsive.
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Wesley Mellybone - Wed, 03 May 2017 11:17:26 EST ID:MwxX1ndq No.391580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391579

You idiots think people rioting over a police state is provoking so you made your side clear. You know like that time some alt right stallion shot up a church during that?

do you really need it spelled out for you? you keep pushing in support of a police state you're eventually gonna have to face people you stallions call "hardened criminals". think im lying, next time a cop kills someone and riots break out in the hood go to the middle of the action and yell a bunch of alt right bullshit. see how quick you wish you stuck to trolling liberals.
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Cedric Dushwell - Wed, 03 May 2017 11:41:32 EST ID:htXEb8vR No.391582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
its also funny i have to explain the rude awakening line, when legit this kid is gonna have one when hes sitting away for 15 years. small sentence for what he did but still a pretty rude awakenin wouldnt u say
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Oliver Devinghetch - Wed, 03 May 2017 13:59:28 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.391588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391562

Reaffirming the Alt-Right dipshits are just SJWs of a different ilk. There's real shit in the world to worry about you child.
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Jenny Charrylod - Wed, 03 May 2017 23:15:54 EST ID:/W51NsrZ No.391594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391578
you know ur prison terms huh
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Nicholas Clisslefield - Thu, 04 May 2017 01:17:16 EST ID:e7sd8OST No.391596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391594
Considering the US has the highest prison population in the history of the world, its really not surprising. Unless I'm taking you too literally?
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Nell Sannerworth - Thu, 04 May 2017 10:50:06 EST ID:7wPqjaCR No.391598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391597
we get retards posting comics like this all the time here, except targeting the left instead of the right mostly. funny how we're far more likely to see people complain about the ones targeting the right rather than the left.

maybe the left is just used to it after all the right wing meme spewing of last year iono.
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Doris Sunkinshaw - Thu, 04 May 2017 11:36:06 EST ID:I3FnSNZB No.391599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391597

You do realize the point of these memes is to make you hate it or love it. Anything in-between means it failed.

It's actually satire on the Trump meme shit that's been going on from the Right for years.
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Esther Sucklestock - Thu, 04 May 2017 11:36:14 EST ID:kXkaFVu/ No.391600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391598
nah, normal people take criticism in stride. republicans (trump supporters especially) just can't handle any type of criticism. i've never seen a group of such cry babies with so little self awareness.
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Hedda Nommleput - Thu, 04 May 2017 12:04:48 EST ID:0HKLpJX/ No.391604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391599
Ya gotta admit this one is kinda funny.
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David Gullerlodging - Thu, 04 May 2017 13:35:33 EST ID:HZmApooN No.391609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391604
But that one is well made.

...Disturbingly well made actually.
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Alice Greenbanks - Thu, 04 May 2017 23:23:50 EST ID:Nla6yjir No.391614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391609
Welcome to the propaganda machine of the current generation.
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Eliza Greenhall - Fri, 05 May 2017 09:40:02 EST ID:HZmApooN No.391619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391614
Hopefully they learn that they're being played. I realize that some of them, like the guy that got arrested, are beyond saving though.
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Frederick Bebberluck - Fri, 05 May 2017 11:21:33 EST ID:qsN498eL No.391620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391619
If the aftermath of the Syria strike is any indication, some of the alt-right are waking up to the fact that they got played, though they refuse to acknowledge why it was so easy to play them in the first place (xenophobia, anti-intellectualism, nostalgia, knee-jerk contrarianism, zero-sum thinking, etc.)

It will be interesting to see if the GOP health care shenanigans will accelerate that realization, especially for the desperate Rust Belters who will be hit especially hard. As you say, though, many true-believers are too far gone to ever admit they got bamboozled.
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Shit Dartham - Fri, 05 May 2017 13:20:07 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.391626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391604
I remember that during the campaign. It seemed rather accurate then as now but I couldn't see how it was an endorsement.
I get how it would attract the 4 chan chaos-candidate vote but not how it would appeal to anyone else.
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Edward Derryworth - Sat, 06 May 2017 20:53:28 EST ID:D3IZqUk/ No.391711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, let's be honest, we knew it was only a matter of time. You can't concentrate sheer retardation and hatred in one place for so long without some casualties. This is the lensing effect of retardation the internet has created. We get large amplitude waves of retardation collecting at the same point in the collective consciousness and individuals start to fucking lose it. The retardation just feeds in on itself and confirms itself even more and more, normally retards are reminded how retarded they are by having to interact with other people who will tell them that they are retarded, but if you gather a bunch of retards together, they're all too retarded to see how retarded they all are so they go around thinking they're geniuses. They connect simple incorrect dots while missing the big picture and then pat each other on the back and say they've discovered some secret truth. In fact, they've discovered the bullshit that corporations and wealthy people have shat out of their asses for these retards to eat up and fuel this fucking shitstorm of retardation. We have a shit eating moron problem on our hands and all the wealthy fucks have to do to keep playing their little games is keep crapping. They don't care if people die, they just want to keep stoking the emotional fires that keep the retards docile and complacent.
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Priscilla Furringdock - Mon, 08 May 2017 01:22:21 EST ID:OCp6r9Xn No.391758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391579

>we have no intent to confront people for no reason

Yeah that's why a bunch of Alt-Larpers in riot gear and gas masks showed up to a May Day event specifically looking for trouble when May Day has nothing to do with their faggy little FREEEEEEEEE SPEACH concern trolling.
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Samuel Chenderstock - Mon, 08 May 2017 08:16:12 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.391764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391758
Violence begets violence. Liberals will say their violence is retaliation against 'violent words' they see, but to a conservative, words are not violence, so of course they feel justified in gangs like The Proud Boys existing. Literally both sides see themselves as champions of justice.
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Alice Brookhall - Fri, 12 May 2017 07:15:30 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.391953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391626
how is this a problem? take tape, fold on self so no sticky side. fold long ways, scoop poop from anus. Like using the toilet paper tube.
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Beatrice Worthingson - Sat, 13 May 2017 07:23:28 EST ID:a3OI75Gr No.392014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391469
*worried* "you have a gun??"

"why do you hate freedom"
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Ernest Bovingstock - Sun, 14 May 2017 09:12:55 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391758
>FREEEEEEEEE SPEACH
>MUH FREEZE PEACH LOL
The scariest thing about the modern left to me is that they truly think free speech is a bad thing now. It's arguably our most important right so show it some goddamn respect. So ironic that their go-to generic insult is "nazi", yet they act more nazi-ish than actual 1940s nazis.

Fucking George Orwell must have been a time-traveler.
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Augustus Pocklemedge - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:02:24 EST ID:4XOc1c6f No.392063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392062
How did you convince yourself of that?
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Sidney Gullyfodge - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:12:39 EST ID:FqtcG9EC No.392065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392062
George Orwell was a fucking revolutionary socialist himself who fought with the POUM against fascists, you daft cunt. 1984 is a critique of stalinism and fascism.
It's fun to see you faggots spout retarded shit about the left when you haven't had the faintest idea what it is. Read a fucking book
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Ernest Bovingstock - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:28:58 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392065
Dude, the modern American left is notorious for mandating that everyone hold their beliefs, forcibly silencing the opposition, and anti-free-market. Fascism is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce. The left is currently authoritarian as FUCK. Remember liberal arts majors: authoritarian is not merely an insult for people you dislike. An authoritarian viewpoint would be, say, rejecting the results of a democratic election because "weh I don't like the guy who won!!" Just replace 'nationalist' with 'globalist' and the modern left is precisely the textbook definition of fascism.

No, Google's new made-up definition ("an extreme right wing form of government") is just pure bullshit. They unsurprisingly made this change during the most recent election period.
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Clara Fuckingville - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:31:45 EST ID:HZmApooN No.392068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392062
>that image

Truly, redpillers are the Coldsteel of our current year generation.
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Hannah Grimcocke - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:45:52 EST ID:pLvGZubn No.392069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392067

You can't combat leftist fascism with rightist fascism that's just bashing two faggots together and watching the wood burn for Satan it's not right man it just ain't right what them fellers do.
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Frederick Hushleck - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:55:17 EST ID:h19uLDR2 No.392071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392067

>American left
>American

Found the problem. Politics in the US of A are toxic as fuck, and it shows whenever one of you yankees post your "alt-right vs antifa/sjw" tribal shitposts. At least it's not as bad as during the election, because I swear if I was an admin in 2016 I'd have banned every American IP from accessing /pol/ forever.

nb
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Ernest Bovingstock - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:18:22 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392068
>omg so cringe
>>392069
>u r a faggot!
>>392071
>merde americaine

Funny how you guys are chock full of personal attacks yet are completely unable to refute anything I said. Surely the beliefs you hold aren't that insubstantial.
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Hamilton Guddleturk - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:28:41 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392072
This is a thread about a guy who literally shot people because he didn't like what they were saying.
Both the left and right have authoritarian and anarchist flavors, it's silly to pretend all leftists are authoritarian.

You ought to unzip and read pic related, it's about a revolution that replaces a system where the surplus labor of the workers is stolen by a small elite with a system where the surplus labor of the workers is stolen by a small elite.
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Clara Fuckingville - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:33:58 EST ID:HZmApooN No.392074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392072
You're right. The jig is up. I was basically just shitposting because no matter how hard I try, I just can't take any sort of political discussion seriously. You could either be some sort of alt-right goobergater faggot or some sjw tumblrtard from the great triggered abyss. I don't even remember what you're even auguring for but I'm pretty sure you're right and I'm wrong. No matter how hard I try I just can't resist the urge to shitpost.

You win Mr. Bovingstock. Make America Great Again, or crush the patriarchy. Go on, and fight for your cause, because I sure as hell don't have any.

Goodbye, /pol/. It's been fun but clearly I've become too retarded to carry out any sort of coherent discussion. Maybe I should find a hobby to do that doesn't involve politics. As the God-Emperor himself says: "Sad!"
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Clara Fuckingville - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:52:29 EST ID:HZmApooN No.392075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392074
Every time... every fucking time, it keeps happening. Every time I stay inside the house I keep spilling my spaghetti, and it's always over fucking politics. I always get triggered by some fucking asstard saying stupid shit and it always ends up like this! I need a fucking job or go back to school or something because I can't keep living like this. Fuck politics, fuck democrats, fuck republicans, fuck conservatives, fuck liberals, fuck feminsts, fuck MRAs, fuck the KKK, fuck nazis, fuck black panthers, fuck redpillers, fuck everything, you fuckers have done absolutely nothing but be a huge blight on me and I have no one to blame but myself because I'm a fucking loser NEET who doesn't even know how to fucking drive because I'm a flagrant faggot. Fuck you.
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Jenny Hingershit - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:55:06 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.392076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392072
>Funny how you guys are chock full of personal attacks
Oh gosh I hope nobody triggered you if so I'm so sorry
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Ernest Bovingstock - Sun, 14 May 2017 11:56:08 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392073
Fair enough. However, my post was a tangent that doesn't deserve it's own thread. I really don't hate the left or even socialism as much as most people on my side of the fence. The main thing I can't abide are the recent leftist attacks on free speech. The "speech=violence" meme is a huge step in the wrong direction and that's exclusively a leftist phenomenon. George Orwell warned us about this pretty clearly. It is ironic that his "side" ended up being the ones to perpetrate it, but if he were alive today he'd surely be one of the main critics of this particular aspect of the left.

Even if people are saying racist shit, even if they're denying the holocaust, you should not violently/legally prevent them from spreading their Dawkinian memes. If their Dawkinian memes are truly so stupid and useless, they'll die off on their own. The mere fact that they need violent suppression honestly gives what they're saying more credibility. It's flabbergasting to me that they still don't realize this. The only speech that shouldn't be allowed are direct physical threats eg "KILL ALL INFIDELS" type shit. If muslims just said "infidels suck compared to us, Mohammed didn't rape all those kids" I'd be fine with that, even though it's racist and untrue.

>>392074
This is honestly the first time I've been on /pol/ in almost a year and I completely regret it. I was curious to see just how bad it's gotten since Trump's presidency, but holy shit this is basically the future's /pol/ now. The prophecy was right: the future came and we're just as bad as 4chan now.
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Ebenezer Pankinford - Sun, 14 May 2017 12:52:42 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.392078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392072
Maybe if you want people to treat you with some measure of respect, don't post images that invite people to assume you're literally a retarded nazi?
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Ernest Bovingstock - Sun, 14 May 2017 19:33:50 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392078
I always forget how easily SJWs are triggered. Thankfully I have little interaction with them.
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Ebenezer Pankinford - Sun, 14 May 2017 19:56:43 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.392082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392081
>anyone who calls me out on my alt-right memeposting is an SJW
>calls other people triggered

I wish I could say I still find such lack of self-awareness shocking.
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Phineas Dendlehit - Sun, 14 May 2017 19:57:20 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392081
Is that why you're always screaming "Censorship"?
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Shitting Sullychure - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:02:39 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392083
I'm always calmly calling out censorship because you're always screaming "Censor this person with different beliefs than me".
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Martha Boddlesog - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:22:06 EST ID:ocfgTAf6 No.392089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Conservative facebook safespace:

Liberalism is a Mental Disorder:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/394523860751477/


"Violence is not welcome, and will result in a ban.

Read the Rules: No bashing of any religous beliefs besides Islam. We are a mixed bag of different faiths here folks, Christian, Athiest, Jewish, Islam would see us all convert or die. We should unite against them or they will win.

No fake news, if you see story from a questionable sorce fact check it before sharing with the group.

Socialists, Liberals, RadFems, Anarchists and any other kind of Leftist dross not welcome.

Islamics need not apply. They, like the Liberals, will be banned permanently as soon as their are found.

Disrespect or abuse of an Admin or another member will result in removal and a permaban.

Sharing of contact details and personal information must be approved by an Admin prior to posting."

Thought it was funny so I posted it. I liked the projection part especially the "no fake news allowed" rule.
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Hugh Turveyhall - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:32:59 EST ID:wPIzNzTk No.392090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392086
dude stop chugging piss
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Jenny Pittbanks - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:40:00 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392086
In other words, you are always crying about censorship. At least you admit it.
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Clara Murdfield - Mon, 15 May 2017 00:19:18 EST ID:XqOr0TAj No.392095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392086
> Mike Cernovich
Have you smoothed your mind yet?
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Isabella Hommerfuck - Mon, 15 May 2017 06:22:56 EST ID:9k6SLa8o No.392103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392086
Show me where in this thread anyone calls for you or anyone else to be censored, you precious little princess.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 08:26:09 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392103
No one has done it to me specifically yet, but everyone knows Spunky's frivolous bans are a huge problem. More to the point, I'm talking about antifa/BLM/other leftists groups violently preventing people from quietly holding up signs that say nothing but "the right to openly discuss ideas must be defended": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=plyC2ipo2B4

>princess!
>pisschugger!
>crybaby!
So so many low-energy personal attacks. It's almost as if leftists were bereft of actual arguments... If you're not, prove it. Can't huh?
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Phineas Narrystock - Mon, 15 May 2017 08:59:41 EST ID:h19uLDR2 No.392105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392104

>everyone knows Spunky's frivolous bans are a problem

No, that's a meme. Just take a look at the first pages of /n/ and /pol/ and tell me those boards are overly moderated.

>It's almost as if leftists were bereft of actual arguments... If you're not, prove it. Can't huh?

Prove what? That there aren't idiots who claim to be leftists? You can't just go "leftists suck and hate freedom of speech, prove me wrong lol". I could give you tons of examples of leftists being brutally murdered just for being outspoken leftists, but in your mind a "leftist" is an American dumb college liberal with blue-dyed hair and a lack of respect for personal hygiene. Yeah, those kind of leftists exist (predominantly in the US, it seems) and I find it embarrassing to be associated with them, but you don't seem to be much better tbh.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 09:18:02 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392105
>no true scotsman fallacy
If there are people doing bad things who loudly proclaim they are part of your group, it is your responsibility to loudly proclaim that they're not. That rarely happens. It's like the problem with muslims. It's the "good" muslims responsibility to disown normal sexist, racist muslims. But they don't, at least not loudly enough and never unsolicited. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. You post was pretty reasonable, but judging from the quality of the posts here it's clear that you're a rare breed. The fact is mainstream leftism is currently anti-free-speech and anti-democracy. That's what I have an issue with. That's what no one has really had a response to until your post.

Even though your argument was specious, you didn't resort to calling me names so good job. It seems my positive influence is having some effect.
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Phineas Narrystock - Mon, 15 May 2017 10:11:11 EST ID:h19uLDR2 No.392110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392106

>If there are people doing bad things who loudly proclaim they are part of your group, it is your responsibility to loudly proclaim that they're not.

If by my "group" you refer to "leftists" then I can only inform you that there probably hundreds of millions of members in my "group". Even if we narrow the definition, we're still talking about millions of people considering themselves to be "leftists". You can't honestly expect me to keep track of everyone and then make an angry tweet about it every time some of them do something stupid, just because people like yourself either can't (or don't want to) fathom that there are hordes of mouthbreathers in literally every political grouping and that they don't necessarily represent the group as a whole.

How retarded wouldn't it be if I just lumped everyone on the right side of the political spectrum into the group "right-wingers" and then started to give mainstream liberalists shit whenever some neo-nazi did something crazy?

Just think about what you're saying for a moment.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 10:21:21 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392110
You're the exception to the rule though. It's no secret that politics has gotten more polarized in the past 10 years. Maybe you don't get out much, but the average leftist I'm forced to talk to supports violent domestic terrorists like antifa & BLM, does not regard our fairly elected president as their president, and tries to silence anyone with a view that opposes their own with the "racist" buzzword/slur. Anything that goes against the leftist narrative gets blacklisted from the academic/tech/hollywood community. That's dangerous because those are the areas that currently hold the most power over society.

I get that you gotta defend your "team" but try to look at things from a more objective perspective.
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Ernest Bradgewater - Mon, 15 May 2017 10:36:23 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.392112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392111
t. dense alt-right dumbass.

Seriously...knock that "the average leftist" strawman shit off.
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Phineas Narrystock - Mon, 15 May 2017 10:45:40 EST ID:h19uLDR2 No.392113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392111

I think the main problem here is that you're American and I'm not. I can't relate to the "leftists" you are describing (which I assume are identity-politics-obsessed college liberals), because there just aren't many of those in my country. Over here, 'leftists' seem a lot more sane and grounded. I'm not even trying to act like a European with a superiority complex when I say that our politics in general are a lot more sane than whatever the fuck is going on in your country.

I get that the Western political climate in general has become more polarized, yes, but it's nothing compared to the polarization going on in the US, IMO. Either way, I think its better to combat that polarization as best one can, but you seem to have bought into it. Discussing actual policy is how you get anywhere. Pissing contests between political tribes gets you nowhere.
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Lydia Hoffingnine - Mon, 15 May 2017 11:17:02 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.392115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392106
>claims no true scotsman fallacy
>If there are people doing bad things who loudly proclaim they are part of your group, it is your responsibility to loudly proclaim that they're not.
lol, literally one after the other. he tried doing exactly the latter and you called the former on him. you've created a retarded illogical catch 22 that allows you to claim one or the one or the other when it suits.

>nazis claim to be right wingers
>if you get lumped in with nazis, it's your own fault because it is your responsibility to loudly proclaim that they're not
>but claiming they're not "part of your group" is a no true scotsmam fallacy
ha! checkmate, faggot
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 11:38:03 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392115
>ha! checkmate faggot
Not that I'm surprised, but my only point is going wayyy over your head. I absolutely think people should have the freedom to say Nazi stuff and deny the Holocaust all they want. That's freedom of speech. It's in the first amendment to the Constitution. The problem is when other groups (antifa/BLM) respond to their with violence. If the Nazis start actually killing Jews again, then no, that's bad. But they're not doing that. In all fairness even you gotta admit that you just label anyone who says anything you dislike a Nazi, regardless of what they actually say. I'd ask you to try harder, but you'd probably just interpret that as going on IRC and begging someone to ban me.

>>392113
You can't be blamed for not actually reading my posts, but I did start out saying "modern American leftists" are the problem. I only shortened it to "leftists" because the former is clunky and I thought it was clear what the latter meant. Still, you can be blamed for ignoring the issue I brought up: there's a growing "anti-free-speech" movement and that is dangerous. You're totally right that discussing policy is the only way to get anywhere. The modern American leftist anti-free-speech movement is already starting to become a hindrance to that.

Semantic arguments are the last refuge of those who have already lost the debate.
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Ernest Bradgewater - Mon, 15 May 2017 11:42:29 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.392117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392113
ignore the alt-right shitlord, euro bro. He probably doesn't even actually interact with "identity-politics-obsessed college liberals" and just takes hearsay from whatever his cocksucking /pol/tard and The_Donald butt buddies fart out on a daily basis.

I bet if you actually had a one on one with a "identity-politics-obsessed college liberal", you'll actually meet the human underneath the bullshit SJW perception.
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Thomas Follylut - Mon, 15 May 2017 12:17:43 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392116
> If the Nazis start actually killing Jews again, then no, that's bad. But they're not doing that.
Read the very first post in this thread. a white supremacist shot into a crowd of black people, simply because of the color of their skin.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 12:37:18 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392120
He's in jail being punished for his actions. What more do you want? That's still no reason to prevent people from freely speaking their mind.

>>392117
Nice strawman, but I am going to grad school in Chapel Hill, NC. Most of my actual friends are leftists, we just don't talk about politics anymore because there's no getting through to them. The problem is when I have to deal with these kinds of jokers at social events. I mostly just sit there in annoyed silence now though.
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Oliver Gooddale - Mon, 15 May 2017 12:46:32 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.392123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Still responding to this idiot

For what purpose? Ignore him, & he'll fuck off back to 4chin on his own.
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Thomas Follylut - Mon, 15 May 2017 12:51:43 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392122
>What more do you want? That's still no reason to prevent people from freely speaking their mind.

>>392116
>The problem is when other groups (antifa/BLM) respond to their with [sic] violence.

You want to complain about violently preventing people from speaking their mind... I want for you to understand that white supremacists are attempting to murder people at a protest because of the color of their skin. What violence are you talking about, now?
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 13:36:19 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392124
>What violence are you talking about, now?
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=antifa+violence

The police apprehended that guy in the OP. He is now in prison. I'm not condoning his action. But his rhetoric? It's unclear what that even was. I can only find that he got into an argument with some violent BLM protestors and shot them in self-defense.

I suspect the full story is he was freely speaking racist shit, the BLM protestors grew violent (trying to suppress his free speech), and he impulsively shot them. If only those BLM protestors ignored him (like well-adjusted adults) they'd probably never have gotten shot. So what if he was intentionally trying to instigate them? They should have taken a deep breath, told him to shut up, and went on about their protest. I don't care if they never had a father to teach them how to function in civilized society. That sort of behavior is unacceptable. The black people initiating the physical altercation is why the judge ended up not punishing the guy in the OP that severely.

The inability of a single one of you to understand why it's bad to violently suppress free speech is proof positive of my point: the modern American left is anti-free-speech. Remember, it used to be extremely taboo to say "homosexuality is okay" and "don't kill the jews." Like strangers would physically accost you. It's terrible that people freely speaking their mind about such things were physically attacked for them in the past. It's terrible that people freely speaking their mind about racism and politics are being physically attacked today.
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Ernest Bradgewater - Mon, 15 May 2017 13:39:41 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.392129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392128
You're a fuckin' piece of shit if you think anyone should have a free pass to act like a piece of shit and talk like a piece of shit to other people for no good reason is acceptable.

YES, anyone can speak their mind, but should also anticipate repercussions if what they say is fucked up. That's not being "anti-free speech", you fucktard.
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Thomas Follylut - Mon, 15 May 2017 13:53:53 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392128
lol. all fake news sources with sensationalist headlines, and you're making up a fantasy situation in your head to defend a white supremacist.

>The inability of a single one of you to understand why it's bad to violently suppress free speech is proof positive of my point: the modern American left is anti-free-speech.
It's more about your inability to offer any evidence at all that supports your claim.

your worldview is based on lies. you can choose to inform yourself and stop ignoring everyone who disagrees with you, or continue to be a pawn of rich men making money selling you white supremacist propaganda.
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Augustus Mosslestone - Mon, 15 May 2017 14:42:13 EST ID:zRmVzsZv No.392131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392128
Your moral compass is fucked up if you think it's okay for someone to act like a KKK member living in the 1970's bible belt but it's not okay for the subjects of the hate speech to respond with a shove. Anyone coming strapped to a group of minorities with the intention of rustling their jimmies and the ghosting them deserves much more than getting knocked the out. This is why BLM exists because pieces of shits like you justify hate speech and racism with "muh free speech". Hate speech is not synonymous with free speech. Clearly the black people weren't being "well-adjusted" adults but the shooter obviously was. How delusional are you to think that minorities won't respond to that shit with violence? You are one sick cat.
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Cedric Crendleteg - Mon, 15 May 2017 14:49:16 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.392133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392131
So do white people have a right to assault black supremacists then?
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Rebecca Mebberdark - Mon, 15 May 2017 14:59:59 EST ID:GJ0Pc65n No.392134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392133
If that's what you got out of that post, you need to reevaluate your "us vs them" mindset, because that's not what Augustus said in the slightest.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 15:05:28 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392129
>YES, anyone can speak their mind, but should also anticipate repercussions if what they say is fucked up.
As long as those repercussions are non-violent, that's completely okay too. If a baker doesn't like gay guys saying they're gonna get married, it is ethically okay for him to deny them service. Pretty fucked up that's not legally allowed anymore though.

>>392130
Dude, I've been pretty nice and responding directly to every single person who says something other than "fuck off alt-right faggot". Thing is, only a couple of you have had an actual response. Maybe those BLM protestors can learn from my behavior. You guys are calling me the meanest names, but I have the power to ignore you. As soon as you start doxxing me and burning down my house, then we have a problem.

>>392131
That guy wasn't lynching anyone. Yes, he was acting like a racist asshole and KKK members are also racist assholes. However, the problem with the KKK was their violent actions not their mean words.

>>392133
A clever way to underscore the hypocrisy of the left. Well done.
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George Sillytadge - Mon, 15 May 2017 15:08:52 EST ID:nhSybOS6 No.392136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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People are talking about, "Oh, how do we curtail this kind of behavior? Do we need to pass laws and police Internet forums?". Guess what? Shooting people is illegal but this guy did it anyways. People are ignorant because of America's shit public education and division politics not a lack of laws.

Don't reign in free speech because the second you do, you're the nazi you're claiming to defend against. Yes, America is chock full of ignorant, racist fucks. It's also full of level-headed conservatives who feel that things like social justice are going too far (something I would agree with as a general statement). There's also liberals who, as much as I hate the phrase, do embody autistic screeching. And there's level-headed liberals that are concerned about the hyper-reactionaries like the guy in the OP (something that any reasonable person could understand).

People are afraid to be open-minded and question their own beliefs. America needs a dialogue, not people digging the trenches deeper and sticking their heads in the sand. But moderates don't get YouTube views and retweets so this cycle is going to continue until the extremists on both sides get the conflict they're furiously masturbating at the thought of.
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Betsy Burrywud - Mon, 15 May 2017 15:51:36 EST ID:X8esPtoC No.392140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392133
There is a general sympathy towards Black Supremacy because people (left-leaning people/Democrats/liberals) believe that black people have the right to push black supremacy because they see it as nothing but a direct response to white supremacy, which was admittedly greatly more powerful than black supremacy and did fuck over black people for a few hundred years in the USA, leading them to where they are now in society, which isn't too great, so people see black supremacy as nothing but chickens coming home to roost, however they will never call it black supremacy, they'll call it things like anti-racism and affirmative action. That being said, everyone else has a problem with black supremacy because they see it as nothing but racism, just as ugly as white supremacy, even though the histories are greatly different.

So to answer your question accurately, you can't assault a black supremacist because they're considered much more sympathy-worthy than a white supremacist, and while I agree with that sentiment, truth be told I want all supremacists, white or black, to get put in their place, because I believe in unity and see any supremacy as a direct attack against unity, while the people championing this sort of shit see it as evening the odds.
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Hugh Pemmerham - Mon, 15 May 2017 16:29:01 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.392146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392140
How do you establish unity when one group is already firmly in a position of supremacy? Do you remove the supreme groups access to resources? Do you de-legitimize their ideological claims? Do you make their supremacy illegal? And how do you think that would look in the real world?
Hint: It would look exactly like what's going on, what you're claiming as 'black supremacy.' If you're in a one-up position, and the playing field is leveled, it seems to you like a loss. It's not, people are just trying to get you to play fairly
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Augustus Mosslestone - Mon, 15 May 2017 16:37:23 EST ID:zRmVzsZv No.392147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392135
>However, the problem with the KKK was their violent actions not their mean words.
The nigga in the OP literally shot people after he instigated a predictable response on purpose.

>>392133
If you are talking about BLM itself then no, but if you are talking about the neo-black panthers then yes.
>Inb4 blm are supremacists
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 17:07:49 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392147
I saw the video before it got taken down. While it's true he instigated them, they retaliated to his antics. Civilized adults don't do that when immature trolls come around. They should have just ignored him. Instead, the BLM protestors thought they'd teach whitey a lesson and kick his butt. Luckily, he had a gun to defend himself. If he didn't this news story probably would have ended up like the livestream torture incident.

That "predictable response" is entirely the fault of the people who responded. Who's fault would it be if cops beat the shit out of a dude who flicked them off and called them pigs? That's right, it'd be the cops fault. Flicking someone off and calling them a mean name is rude, but not illegal.
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Hugh Pemmerham - Mon, 15 May 2017 17:18:19 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.392154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392153
But instigating the response isn't the fault of the person who instigated it?
Also
>>Flicking someone off and calling them a mean name is rude, but not illegal.
is not factually accurate. In many jurisdictions 'provocation' is a crime, and if it can be proved that you provoked your own assault, it lessens the charge to the other party.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 17:45:44 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392154
Incorrect. At least in America it's not illegal, but rather considered an extenuating circumstance that can lead to a reduced sentence for criminals. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Provocation_(legal)

Wait you sort of said that too. Um, do you not understand what "illegal" means? Provocation is not a crime. It's merely a tool defense attorneys can use to get a reduced sentence.
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Hugh Pemmerham - Mon, 15 May 2017 18:04:45 EST ID:wCbmVqz0 No.392156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392155
I didn't think you were going to go for the technical legal argument, rather just accept the intent of my post which you admit yourself (that provocation is a mitigating factor in a criminal case, which is what you suggest it isn't in >>392153)
I suppose technically I should have said 'provocation' can be criminal, rather than 'is a crime,' because it can, for example, change a lawful act of self defense into an unlawful criminal ('illegal') offense. The OP is a clear example of this.
Also some US state jurisdictions do have explicit statutes about provocation, Indiana and Arizona for example.
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Shitting Sullychure - Mon, 15 May 2017 18:14:25 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually didn't know about Arizona and Indiana having laws explicitly against provocation. That is really dumb.

Regardless, the fact is those guys would never have been shot if they just ignored the troll in the first place. Don't feed the trolls. This is common knowledge. If you know he is trying to incite a reaction, don't give him exactly what he wants. Call the police and say "this man is harassing me officer". This incident didn't occur on a grade school playground.
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Isabella Charryworth - Mon, 15 May 2017 22:29:12 EST ID:InZys4oT No.392171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392157
>Call the police and say "this man is harassing me officer"
lol. as if they're going to actually do anything.

i remember as a kid some crazy guy (looked shabby and homeless) was shambling in front of our house, pacing back and forth around the neighborhood while yelling racial slurs (albeit not at the top of his lungs). my dad called the cops, they came but told us because he wasn't doing anything illegal there was nothing they could do about it.

long story short, just call the cops/don't feed the trolls is not always a valid answer. allowing the trolls to do as they please is in fact also a "win" for them.

at least we weren't black. they probably would've let the homeless racist guy go and arrested us instead for bothering a decent white person or some shit lol.
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Phyllis Hillerkudging - Tue, 16 May 2017 04:41:26 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392171
If someone is making you feel unsafe, the answer is not to "assert your dominance" by engaging in physical combat with them like the people in the OP did. Your dad didn't go try to beat up that annoying homeless guy when the cops didn't do anything because he is a civilized adult. BLM protestors are by and large uncivilized.
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Jack Blassledark - Tue, 16 May 2017 08:47:24 EST ID:GZEhV5JX No.392187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392180
But the guy who shot into a crowd of black is civil? LOL

Why didn't he call the cops first? Hmmm... Oh right, because his intention was to murder black people from the start.

I didn't there would be people defending a white supremacist trying to murder black people, but here we are...
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Nigel Ganningmork - Tue, 16 May 2017 09:17:39 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392187
He didn't say he was civil.

What is it with you guys where criticizing one side means you're automatically on the other? Like a lot of these contemporary movements, BLM has some good ideas but for one reason or another has turned into absolute dogshit. It went from "the prison system and the war on drugs is fucked up and needs reformation", which I could not be more on board with, to "literally everything wrong in my life is the fault of white people".

That doesn't mean I must be part of the polar opposite group. All that means is I don't like BLM in it's current incarnation.
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Hedda Dartfoot - Tue, 16 May 2017 09:49:17 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392188
When you're defending a white supremacist shooting into a crowd of black people, there's a 100% chance you're also a white supremacist.

> to "literally everything wrong in my life is the fault of white people".
No it didn't. I can see how people who only read right wing fake news think that though.
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Nigel Ganningmork - Tue, 16 May 2017 10:42:38 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392189
But that's wrong you fucking idiot. Saying they shouldn't have done that isn't defending the other person, it's saying they shouldn't have done that. If some guy rolls up in a van with "I'm gonna rape you Hedda Dartfoot" written on the side and you hop in anyway, pointing out that you're dumb as a sack of dicks isn't a defense of the rapist. I don't know why this is so difficult for you to understand.

>No it didn't.
Lol one of the founders of BLM Toronto called Trudeau a white supremacist terrorist and very clearly implied that white people are directly responsible for the state of minority communities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04uf-4GoS48

Sorry about the video, it was the only one I could find that didn't come with like a 20 minute commentary by some guy.
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Hedda Dartfoot - Tue, 16 May 2017 11:06:28 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392190
Well, it appears even a fucking idiot can understand that only a white supremacist would defend & justify a white guy shooting into a crowd of black people, just because of the color of their skin. What's your excuse?

>it was the only one I could find that didn't come with like a 20 minute commentary by some guy.
That because it's sensationalism perpetuated by the right & not a real tenant of BLM.
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Nigel Ganningmork - Tue, 16 May 2017 11:11:09 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392191
Lol now I remember why I stopped coming to this board.
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Lillian Cremmleville - Tue, 16 May 2017 11:32:32 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.392194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Um a self-proclaimed blm-chapter-founder basically counts as anecdotal. By the same standards the TEA-party would not look great.
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Lillian Cremmleville - Tue, 16 May 2017 11:59:36 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.392195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391469
That is a rather depressing image you paint. Still; you did elect Trump (even if you claim Hillary was worse) kinda suggests that your democracy isn't doing as well as most others. The Philippines democratically elected Duterte so it's hardly an infallible system.

As to what to do; I'd say it broadly falls into two categories: 1) Educate you fellow citizens. Bureaucracy is supposed to work. It is the job of an elected official to make it so. "Ask not what your country can do for you" unless it is doing next to nothing and still raking in taxes. Ask "What am I paying for?" 2) Up sticks and leave. Try northern Europe or maybe New Zealand or something.

Honestly though; I've always been surprised at the amount of generalized ignorance, even among the supposedly educated class, Americans casually display. This is not just a eurofag-stereotype nor am I just trying to troll. My grandfather argues that they've got so much inside their country that they have no need for the outside. However, even semi-literate third-worlders and/or the subjects of dictators, know of other functioning systems and often strive to learn from them. In the USA there is not only the sense that the chosen path is the best path but that it is the only path that can be walked without disaster at all.
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Lillian Cremmleville - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:07:55 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.392198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391469
P.S. sorry for tripple, nb, ect.

you should watch "Brazil" (not much to do with the country besides it being similarly Kafkaesque and byzantine) https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/6317582/Brazil_(1985)[DVDRip][big_dad_e]

Basically the plot is that it's a dystopia but they aren't even very good at it.
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Nigel Ganningmork - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:14:34 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392194
They don't look great. Maybe I'm cripplingly cynical and paranoid but the stated objectives or beliefs of a group are simultaneously the first thing I look at and the last thing I take into consideration when deciding how I feel about that group. It's like all those essays you had to write in college. It's not hard to write what your teacher (or the section of the public you're trying to appeal to) wants to hear. Great, you say you're for X and against Y, but do your actions bear that out? That's what matters. What you say is largely irrelevant.

BLM can say they stand for this or that all they like but that's not what I see and so that's not what I believe. I also don't see how it's "anecdotal" because it isn't just her. That's not an insignificant crowd and they're all cheering so obviously they agree with her, which means she's representative of more than just herself insofar as those opinions and BLM is concerned.
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Hedda Dartfoot - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:46:23 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392199
You just see what you choose to see.

>Great, you say you're for X and against Y, but do your actions bear that out?
Yes. You would know this if you base your judgments on youtube videos with 20 minutes of commentary by an angry white guy.
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Nigel Hubbernig - Tue, 16 May 2017 13:11:13 EST ID:yrGzYy6C No.392207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392153
>>Who's fault would it be if cops beat the shit out of a dude who flicked them off and called them pigs?

thinking people who hate pigs dislike them because of an emotional response to violence. nah all you alt right, and trump peoples assumptions about us are 100 percent. we hate cops because were on the different side of the law than them.
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Phyllis Goodman - Tue, 16 May 2017 14:09:39 EST ID:DiXMKba0 No.392210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392199
>the stated objectives or beliefs of a group are simultaneously the first thing I look at and the last thing I take into consideration when deciding how I feel about that group.

Hmm, so have you ever looked at the movement's website? They have a platform up. It's self-avowedly radical but none of it says "kill whitey."
https://policy.m4bl.org/platform/

Your reasoning is a textbook case of the spotlight fallacy. Lots of bona fide white supremacists and neo-Nazis support Donald Trump and rejoiced at his victory, but I'll bet you wouldn't call Trump a white supremacist or a Nazi. For any grassroots activist cause—that is, not sanctioned by a party in power, as the Nuremberg Rallies were—you can add up all the "not insignificant crowds" from all its rallies and it still does not translate to meaningful political agency.
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Nigel Ganningmork - Tue, 16 May 2017 15:46:35 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392203
Why are you still here?

>>392210
Of course it doesn't say that. I'm not trying to slide in a presupposition that "fuck whitey" is a tenet of theirs but if it were it still wouldn't say that.

>spotlight fallacy
Yeah, you might have a point there. But then the rub is how do you account for that? Trying to find an objective third party report is nigh on fucking impossible because "journalism" today is a disaster. Wherever you go they're either gonna paint them in an entirely negative or positive light as suits their ideological slant.
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Hedda Dartfoot - Tue, 16 May 2017 15:58:37 EST ID:ixqOA5lP No.392213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392212
>But then the rub is how do you account for that? Trying to find an objective third party report is nigh on fucking impossible because "journalism" today is a disaster.
It's only hard when your sources of information are right wing propanda rags like the blaze and breitbart.

Alternatively, you could go outside and actually interact with people first hand.
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Lillian Cremmleville - Tue, 16 May 2017 16:41:34 EST ID:T43ZgZvA No.392214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392199
>They don't look great.
Honestly I don't really want to get bogged down with BLM. As an outsider I can mostly just tell that, whatever they're specifically mad about, they're doing it wrong. Also in the USA you have mass shootings all the time. Is it a "whites shooting blacks", "cops shooting blacks", "cops shooting Americans" or just "Americans shooting Americans"? To a eurofag this all mostly looks the same.

>>392195 and >>392198 is mostly what I had to add to OP's thread. >>392194 was just a reminder not to follow a strawman down a rabbithole.
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Graham Nonkinfuck - Tue, 16 May 2017 18:18:55 EST ID:EcFsH8Dx No.392218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391469
15 years, he's a terrorist, plain and simple. His life is worth nothing. I know white supremacists. Really most have some dignity and basic human respect. Hope this shit gets his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-eYb5f1LqZ0
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Shit Haffingdock - Tue, 16 May 2017 21:04:12 EST ID:H4tfUs7Z No.392230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392212
>i admit i was basing that supposition off of a fallacy
>but I'm gonna continue going by it anyway because facts i don't like are fake news
>also cognitive dissonance hurts so let's not go there
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Fuck Shakewill - Tue, 16 May 2017 21:21:06 EST ID:U19RSd5a No.392232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392230
This is why this board is such fuckin' garbage. You come here looking to talk about shit and maybe learn something and you get yellowtext AHUDHRU GOTCHYA posts.

If you don't have anything to add besides some autistic screeching then maybe shut the fuck up. I have no problem admitting that I might have been wrong. My discussion with that guy made me reconsider what I thought about BLM. Posts like yours just get people to entrench themselves further in what they already believe.
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Caroline Sobberson - Tue, 16 May 2017 21:54:00 EST ID:yrGzYy6C No.392235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so a kid provoking people about to get his ass beat is self defense? ok hypothetically, say I was at the protest, and the kid pulling his gun out, firing randomly threatened me. would you, the alt right, be ok with me, a Mexican, and legal gun owner, pulling my smith and Wesson out and emptying a clip into the kids dome? I hope so.
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Betsy Feshhack - Tue, 16 May 2017 23:01:04 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392235
No, that would make you a violent gangster and thug.
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Rebecca Worthingstone - Tue, 16 May 2017 23:42:03 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392235
No, because you said clip.
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Caroline Blishgold - Wed, 17 May 2017 00:08:33 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392239
So it's OK as long as you don't use a nazi gun to shoot nazis?
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Rebecca Worthingstone - Wed, 17 May 2017 00:24:48 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392241
If you want to spend up to 10 seconds reloading.
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James Dartwell - Wed, 17 May 2017 05:48:13 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392235
>say I was at the protest, and the kid pulling his gun out, firing randomly threatened me.
That's not what the kid was doing. He was saying racist shit and asking the protestors to "culturally enrich" him. He also wore some very triggering clothes. The negros got triggered so hard they started to physically attacked him, then he drew his weapon and fired.
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Ebenezer Peshherk - Wed, 17 May 2017 05:56:34 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392243
>not wanting to do battle holding han solos blaster pistol.
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Rebecca Worthingstone - Wed, 17 May 2017 15:55:02 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392251
So, he provoked them. IE, Premeditation, IE fucking Murder.
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Sophie Panningpog - Wed, 17 May 2017 16:55:28 EST ID:EdMAyADQ No.392282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392235
>Mexican
But that means you sell drugs and are in a gang!
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Graham Sullytone - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:44:39 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392277
>trolling = murder
that's a hilarious joke but the sad reality is people actually believe this
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John Gapperlat - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:45:48 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.392348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392347
>Shot 5 people
>trolling

2/10, you got me to reply
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Graham Sullytone - Thu, 18 May 2017 17:18:57 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392348
I guess you didn't see the video before it got taken down. Fortunately I did so I don't need to parrot other people's opinions in order to signal my virtues.

The kid was saying racist shit, some protestors attacked him, then he drew his gun and shot back. There's a reason the judge gave him the relatively light sentence he did, and it's not "muh privelege"
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John Gapperlat - Thu, 18 May 2017 18:38:25 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.392356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392354
>Thinking that I didn't see the video
>Thinking that he went there with his gun for any reason other than to start shit
>Thinking there's any solid defense for this retard at all

Here, have another reply.
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William Hottingwat - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:22:15 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392360 >>392361 >>392362 >>392363
Please don't do this shit, it's just obnoxious clutter.
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Jack Goodforth - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:34:24 EST ID:/E+MXMXk No.392374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392354
There is a law from the old west, called 'fighting words' that justifies retaliation.
Even as horse thieving and claim jumping can be cause for even immediate fatal retaliation.

It is used today in a different more civilized sense but, but the principle it the same.
Basically he should have been ripped to shreds. His 'self-defense' should have not
been taken into consideration in any way if it had been. In essence he went there to
shoot black people, plain and simple.
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Lydia Beppernut - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:17:18 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392356
>t. gun fearing liberal
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William Sacklepid - Fri, 19 May 2017 02:58:40 EST ID:Z7Na6ELH No.392382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392377
Great argument. Really destroyed my points.
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Lydia Beppernut - Fri, 19 May 2017 07:54:23 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392382
Then I shall bother to construct one. Plenty of people walk around with heat but you would never know unless shit went down. Just because some one has a gun entering a situation does not mean he was automatically looking to use it.

>>392374
ok even if your interpretation of that is right. Today just dissing some one is not cause enough to beat them, it's called aggravated assault. Being under threat of getting beat however is sufficient to form a self defense plea, even if some one said jolly african-american. Yes, being called a jolly african-american is not an excuse to assault some one as far as the law is concerned. Doesn't make it right or acceptable though.
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Walter Dartspear - Fri, 19 May 2017 08:31:32 EST ID:WQQ+NOb5 No.392388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392387
Are you ignoring the rest of the context in this situation? Dude fully intended to shoot some black people.
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Nigel Brashhood - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:02:44 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392388
of course he is. I really doubt he's ready anything and just spamming pre-writen insults.
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Fanny Fuzzleforth - Fri, 19 May 2017 11:45:32 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392377
You can support the idea that citizens should have access to any of the armaments their military has access to and still recognize the reality that this fellow went there specifically to provoke someone, giving him a reason to shoot them. These things are not mutually exclusive.

>t. hyper-partisan hack
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Cedric Brookshaw - Fri, 19 May 2017 18:28:17 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392374
>There is a law from the old west, called 'fighting words' that justifies retaliation.
The old west wasn't civilized. Thankfully we've matured past that as a society. For the most part. Obviously not the people who were involved in this incident.

The white kid was at fault. The BLM protestors were at fault. The reality is they were all there to get into a fight because violence is sexy. Notice how none of them ran for office or learned to produce academic reports on the issues they care about. That's too hard. Nope. They just make signs and clothes and yell at the people on the other side of the line until one side throws a punch.
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Emma Tootman - Sat, 20 May 2017 02:38:39 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392391
I didn't insult any one in that post.

>>392388
Just because this guy is an ass hole doesn't mean every one with a gun is like him. That's what I am saying. How dare I even have an original thought.
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Emma Tootman - Sat, 20 May 2017 02:40:21 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392405
>this.
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Lillian Fungerpere - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:26:32 EST ID:XhNMQDCV No.392425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392418
What a retarded picture. It's slightly ironic that those who ostensibly want you to learn from history are often the most ignorant about it.

https://aeon.co/essays/how-did-the-introduction-of-guns-change-native-america
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Simon Wommleshit - Sat, 20 May 2017 14:06:26 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.392429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392062

The only person in this entire thread who actual has the ability to think critically and its REALLY fucking sad that hes being called ''alt-right troll'' or whatever the fuck.

All you saying ''oh he provoked them he wanted to!'' do you know how fucking dumb that sounds? Almost racist of you to think that these poor jolly african americans couldnt HELP but attack this guy.

It's not their fault guys! Black people cant control themselves! Everyone knows that!

Thats what you sound like.

These people responded to words with violence.

Some black guy comes up to me in the street and calls me a no good cracker faggot. You know what ima do? Try and walk the fuck away. God bless his right to do so. Unless he accosts me physically, what the fuck do i care of his opinion for me.
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Hugh Brackledodge - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:20:10 EST ID:6qLefQvO No.392432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392429
Ahh, the classic "I'm not racist, YOU'RE RACIST!" meme. Classic Cripplechan.
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Simon Wommleshit - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:39:53 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.392433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392432

I was saying that as a slight. Not because I think they're actual racists... Typically because the word is thrown around so lightly... but you're far too dense to see that...
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George Ginningwater - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:51:41 EST ID:6Km/L7+T No.392434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392062
That picture is 1 person enjoying mere existence and the remaining 9 wallowing in wretched and degrading misery.
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Shitting Nimblebirk - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:22:57 EST ID:WJ1QA1Wm No.392436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392429

Look DUDE, it was pre-meditated. That is all there is too it. Read the article while your at it.
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Shitting Nimblebirk - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:06:54 EST ID:WJ1QA1Wm No.392440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392062
So free speech is fine. Liberals have always fought for it. Trump started the nazi thing, calling free press evil and suck, aside though; there was a reason why there was a protest to begin with. Police wrongdoings.
I know it hurts soo bad seeing black folks gathering peacefully to protest government wrongs. Especially
people with guns and authority murdering people.

So here comes dumbfuck freedom of speech guy to a protest, broadcasted for months about his hatred of blacks, and asked for support. Ok fine freedom of speech.

But put on a mask, broadcasted his basic intentions, started shooting people. Remember the few terrorists attacks, like theater shooting, radical islam shootings. The was pre0meditated, as each shooting incident,
they made their plans, waited for opportunity and carried out their terrorist attacks. Plaaiiinnn and simple.

If anything, what were these white people doing at Black Lives Matter protest? I mean, they weren't joining them. There was an 'argument' that was the 'opportunity.' Simple as that. If one get into an argument that one starts and suddenly starts shooting people.

It it free speech that the liberals got mixed up, he is in prison, is it really the justice systems fault?
which part of the justice system is at falult isf so, the police, the prosecution, judege?

(One of the shooting victims, Cameron Clark, who is the cousin of the late Jamar Clark, said he is still dealing with physical and emotional pain from the shooting.

"I can't do a lot of things with my kids anymore, I can't work," Clark said. "I'm going to be living with this for the rest of my life.")

Read the simple article. Poor kids brain had not developed a 22 years old. Now he will likely be subjected to things like prison rape and all. It simply did not have to happen to begin with.
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Shitting Nimblebirk - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:08:23 EST ID:WJ1QA1Wm No.392442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392440
>Especially when people with guns and authority (police) basically murdering >people.
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Caroline Diffingford - Sat, 20 May 2017 17:27:59 EST ID:c9l+O/9K No.392444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392062
so it goes
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Simon Wommleshit - Sat, 20 May 2017 18:19:02 EST ID:Kn19Eg9q No.392445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392440

Try again my man. Even if he was there to harass the protesters its completely fine for him to do so, even though its completely retarded of him. All the protesters had to do was simply ignore him.

Btw your first paragraph is almost incoherent retard babble. Why even mention Trump? Idk.. Maybe you think im alt-right or something? Because you also mention me not liking the gathering of black peaceful protesters. Which... Im not sure where you got that from to be honest.

> If anything, what were these white people doing at Black Lives Matter protest?

Because its a public space and he can be there if he wants to be. Just like the ''God hates Fags'' people at soldiers funerals. They're awful shit stains like this guy but he can be there if he wants to be, doing and saying what he wants.

> It simply did not have to happen to begin with.

Yeah you're right. They could have ignored him.
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Henry Hittingline - Sun, 21 May 2017 01:07:30 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392445
>They could have ignored him.
He also could have not killed them. Or gone there specifically to provoke people into attacking him so he could have grounds to kill them.
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Samuel Barrysork - Sun, 21 May 2017 02:33:20 EST ID:Y8SQ/mMN No.392456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392445
>Even if he was there to harass the protesters its completely fine for him to
>do so,

In 14 years yes, he can revisit the site where he 'traveled' to, to attempt to murder
people based on his negative racial beliefs and hatred.

Here and now, he has spent 18 months in jail on felony charges. Extremely serious charges.
He has been convicted, he will spend at least maybe 9 years before he can apply for parole.
Just a guess.

He can get a parole hearing only once a year. He will be denied and spend another
year until his next hearing. He will be denied again.

He will be denied over and over because of his actions. Simple pictures of the gun, his victims injuries.

As he had a right to be there that day, witnesses, victims, their families have the right to attend his
parole hearings and speak. Again; he will be denied over and over.

He might though be able to make a life and future for his-self during his time. He might have
a very difficult time as well. Prison rape is a reality. Minimum security prisons are just that,
minimum security.-
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Cyril Gillerfield - Sun, 21 May 2017 18:21:10 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.392473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392445

End of the day if you want to start shit and shoot a bunch of niggers, you should not spend weeks texting your friends about killing niggers, your jolly african-american-killing gun, and how much you look forward to killing some niggers.

Because if you do that and then you shoot a bunch of niggers, it's gonna be awfully hard to argue in court that you were just showing up to the jolly african-american gathering with your guns to be friends with said niggers or to engage in a conversation.
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Cyril Gillerfield - Sun, 21 May 2017 18:22:25 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.392474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392473

Also lol'd that 'jolly african-american' is censored here, but 'niggers' is not.

Get it together, mods.
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Henry Toothood - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:46:05 EST ID:7lvGLE0y No.392476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392474
jolly african-american niggers

This is new.
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Reuben Blollerwater - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:09:58 EST ID:Nla6yjir No.392477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392476
niggers
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Lydia Packlemure - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:11:33 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392473
>it's gonna be awfully hard to argue in court that you were just showing up to the jolly african-american gathering with your guns to be friends with said niggers or to engage in a conversation.

And yet...in some places that would fly....
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Nathaniel Billingford - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:39:49 EST ID:AUfzQlxS No.392481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392478
yep, trevon martin deal. He was defending himself against a basic child. He had masses support his shooting. Ohh, I was afraid for my live, wahhh. Some white people need to have the shit kicked out of them by those they 'fear' the most. It's racism, racism is far. Racism is an excuse create conflict where none had existed.
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Phineas Drembletod - Mon, 22 May 2017 00:50:14 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.392482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392481

>Child

Haha
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Matilda Dushbanks - Mon, 22 May 2017 04:21:25 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392482
>haha black people aren't children!
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Oliver Greenham - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:10:07 EST ID:iYYYad4Q No.392485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392481
George Zimmerman isn't white and he did nothing wrong.
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Isabella Nenningnock - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:38:32 EST ID:yqYD8ups No.392486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392485
>This is what white supremacists actually believe
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Emma Pillystone - Mon, 22 May 2017 10:52:18 EST ID:V72b4f8a No.392490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392425
>is professor of history at George Washington University, where he specialises in Native American, Colonial American, and American racial history
>American racial history.

How is this even a subject. It's just perpetuating this so called racist systemic oppression meme.

any way it looks like natives freely desired to TRADE for weapons in exchange for good relations and even became black market smugglers when certian guns were illegal. But what does this have to do with the subsequent ass kicking, disarming, stuffed into reserves and eventually allowed to open casinos where ever just because honored ass whooped status?
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Fanny Worthingson - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:33:16 EST ID:adDkVNcA No.392491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392490
>How is studying history a subject
Keeping the masses uneducated is dooming them to repay their past mistakes
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Lydia Packlemure - Mon, 22 May 2017 12:37:55 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392485
Zimmerman was "white enough." Remember, he was raised with a white dad in a white world in a state that literally invented the word Cracker.
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Thomas Blacklewitch - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:03:59 EST ID:zizunrfQ No.392498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392482
>>Child

>Haha

Sure why not. I am preet y skinny and surely it would be at leas ta fair fight.
In comparison Zimmerman was schooled on Mertial arts. A Big guy in comparison. Stupid as shit. Carried a gun, mentioned how sock he was of these people, or whatever, (look it up yourself.) He claimed the kid jumped out of the Bushes, shit, the bushes, a squirrel could not have hid in the 'Bushes.'
He didn't listen to the 9/11 person to not pursue the boy. Zimmerman did not listen and well. Shot an Innocent teen who was not even 18, a child.

His injuries, So the boy inflicted all these injuries on zimmerman and tried to
get his gun, which the boy would not have known Zimmerman had one.

In the scuffle Zimmerman was injured geared for his life and managed to get his gun out and shoot the boy. Who to my knowledge did not sustain any physical injures aside from the fatal gunshot.

Zimmerman was trained in martial arts, and in realty likely had martial arts matches with men his size and comparable to his own abilities.

The Zimmerman saw opportunity to get into a confrontation and used his weapon. His injuries, nothing shows autopsy wise the boy had abrasions
or anything to show he assaulted Zimmerman.
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Phineas Drembletod - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:06:20 EST ID:MBZ+rwoO No.392499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392498

>The Zimmerman saw opportunity to get into a confrontation and used his weapon.

Yeah, too bad that walking several meters behind someone in public doesn't count as starting a confrontation.
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Jarvis Sodgewirk - Tue, 23 May 2017 00:17:19 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392499
Who do you honestly think you're kidding?
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Hugh Pollerfield - Tue, 23 May 2017 09:58:50 EST ID:Wr5RdbET No.392512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392508
He was told specifically not to get out of his car. He was held on one million
dollars bail. I know the mentality of people. His words were enough to say what he was up to.
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Hugh Pollerfield - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:55:58 EST ID:Wr5RdbET No.392523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392499
>>The Zimmerman saw opportunity to get into a confrontation and used his weapon.


>Yeah, too bad that walking several meters behind someone in public doesn't count as starting a >confrontation.

I have seen it happen. It is not uncommon. He was told not to pursue the boy. He lost track of him, found him and things went bad really quick from square one. He was told not to get out of the vehicle but to wait for police at the entrance.

Whatever the case is his following him, it turned deadly. I know the child was afraid of him being stalked. To top it off Zimmerman had a gun to begin with. Reality, did Zimmerman need a gun,
a community setting and some guy consistently roaming around with a gun. Not a good scenario.
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Zimmerman was portrayed as some sort of hero by the right, by the masses. I guess that somewhat still lives on.
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Angus Clayford - Tue, 23 May 2017 23:24:41 EST ID:3TXSPocJ No.392531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>391515
Lmao the vast majority of domestic terrorists have been right wing fanatics. It's not equal. I agree antifa can be extreme but the alt right's victim complex and paranoia is so pronounced they even paint BLM as terrorists. Anyone who disagrees with them is an SJW caricature and this is apparently censoring them somehow. It's an absurd mentality facilitated by the echo chamber effect and insularity of most websites. You can't have a call for pacifism if your entire ideology is predicated on calling people lesser beings and saying they should be exterminated. The alt right just reverses victim and offender to make it look like any criticism of their bullshit is an attack on freedom of speech, and this justifies their authoritarian and violent power fantasies.
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Fucking Gonderwell - Fri, 26 May 2017 20:17:26 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392523
Zimmerman had the right to do what he did. "The child" still attacked him. Putting the blame on him just doesn't fly, however stupid he acted. And he wasn't so much portrayed as a hero by the right as he was portrayed as a villain by the left. It wasn't the right that conveniently released a years out of date photo of the victim, for instance. It was one in many cases where huge publicity was lavished on it. Without that, the right would never have picked up on it.
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Cornelius Blarringstedge - Fri, 26 May 2017 21:08:52 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392668
>Zimmerman had the right to do what he did.

In Florida. A notoriously shitty state full of shitty people.

>"The child" still attacked him.

According to only Zimmerman....

>And he wasn't so much portrayed as a hero by the right as he was portrayed as a villain by the left.

Dude, half the Right would actually suck his fucking cock.
Seriously.

> It wasn't the right that conveniently released a years out of date photo of the victim, for instance.

What is this, I don't even...etc etc...
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Fucking Gonderwell - Fri, 26 May 2017 21:16:28 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392675
>In Florida. A notoriously shitty state full of shitty people.

So? I don't make the rules.

>According to only Zimmerman....

And according to the court. When the case was fresh, everyone said people were only angry because they wanted him to go to court. Then he went, and he was acquitted, people still say he did it. I mean, it's possible, but at this point it's very unlikely, and you're basically calling into question the legal system. And if you're going to do that, you're going to have to come with a good argument for your case.

>Dude, half the Right would actually suck his fucking cock.
Seriously.

What's your point? The left ran with him as a villain. When it turned out their case was very shaky, of fucking course the right ran with it in the other direction. You expect them to just sit there and take character assassination with no response?

>What is this, I don't even...etc etc...

OK, so you don't know literally the first thing about the case. When the case was first appearing in the media the picture they showed for Trayvon was a very old picture, which showed him as 12 or something. For Zimmerman they had found a mugshot-esque picture where he's wearing an orange shirt. It's possible it all went completely by accident, but it looks like framing to me. At the very least it's incompetence.
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Cornelius Blarringstedge - Fri, 26 May 2017 23:06:10 EST ID:Yh0dEBHV No.392680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392677
>you're basically calling into question the legal system. And if you're going to do that, you're going to have to come with a good argument for your case.

How about a long history of discrimination within the system when it came to blacks vs anyone higher. ZimZam there can pass as white in society thanks to dad. A black kid? Not so much. Guess who justice favors?
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Charlotte Pottingchid - Sat, 27 May 2017 00:14:22 EST ID:5kKDAT8o No.392682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392124
>that white supremacists are attempting to murder people at a protest because
>of the color of their skin

White supremacists tend to be a different breed in general, a superior breed as opposed to this kid, in thought, politics, etc. This kid was maybe at best an insecure racist, who feared himself, in turn feared another racial group of people.

This is the white America, fox news, savage, limabugh. Trump. In prison I know
that real white supremacists would eave him to be sold from group to group.
Few would be as accepting and condone his actions as the average masses who don't understand blacks folks. and think Trump is somehow a decent 'human.'
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Augustus Shittingfuck - Sat, 27 May 2017 00:16:42 EST ID:eTEovj3p No.392683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392677
The corporate media has never been a portrayal by "the left". The killing of Trayvon & Brown probably galvanized and got mass attention because of many other past incidents that didn't. If it was because of their age I wonder why Tamir Rice didn't get nearly as much attention. Maybe because there were people getting shot by the police all over the place, name after name in the mass spotlight. Not gonna address other points, partly from lack of knowing, and god damn it'd take awhile to research the details, why is it worth it. Cool being exposed to different perspective, bs or not.
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Charlotte Pottingchid - Sat, 27 May 2017 01:13:20 EST ID:5kKDAT8o No.392686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392485
>George Zimmerman isn't white and he did nothing wrong.

He did everything one could possibly do wrong. Seriously.
By chance he didn't end up in prison. don't know sometimes.

He had soo many police issues after that, violent issues with women,
drunken altercations, with law enforcement. He is not really fit for society.

Let alone 'still' being able to carry a gun.
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Polly Honeybanks - Sat, 27 May 2017 01:30:38 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392677
>you're basically calling into question the legal system
Oh my, who would do such a thing??
You're really showing your age here...or at least your level of naivete.

But nah, I'm sure the skinny 17 year old kid was literally about to beat the fully grown, much larger adult (who has taken self-defense courses and was armed) to death with his bare hands. I mean, didn't you see the little boo-boo Zimmy had on the back of his head!

The fact that Martin died face up PROVES he was going to savagely beat this man to death....while underneath him.

Why would he confront the shady guy who's following him around and talking on the phone for several blocks anyway?! That little nig...um I mean THUG was asking for it! Damn thuggers with their skittles and iced tea.
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Fucking Gonderwell - Sat, 27 May 2017 03:38:33 EST ID:TSV//XdC No.392695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392680
>>392687
Look, if you want to doubt the court's decision, that's fine. But you're opening a can of emotional worms here where you're just going to pull into question every decision that you don't like for some reason.

But I know how you feel. We had a political murder in my country in 2002, and it's common knowledge that the establishment at the time was very happy it happened. The perpetrator received a slap on the wrist. That, and similar cases have led me to question the courts as well.

But you can't say it's a sure thing. You just don't have the evidence to back it up. And a strong suspicion doesn't count.

>>392683
Well, I'm sure it's not *your* left that they represent. But in general, the media have a left wing slant. I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin. Personally I don't believe in spontaneous outrage, certainly not in this case. The stereotype of American police as racist and triggerhappy is way older than the Zimmerman case.
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Polly Honeybanks - Sat, 27 May 2017 06:17:08 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392695
You're ridiculous, child like naive objections is cute, but you clearly have no idea what your talking about. Especially when it comes to this case.

Also, appeals to authority are a logical fallacy.
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Polly Honeybanks - Sat, 27 May 2017 06:32:21 EST ID:sMjBd+5i No.392704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392702
**naive objectivism
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Hamilton Dullerbeg - Sat, 27 May 2017 10:23:31 EST ID:glUT7SYB No.392708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392695
>
Well, I'm sure it's not *your* left that they represent. But in general, the media have a left wing slant. I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin. Personally I don't believe in spontaneous outrage, certainly not in this case. The stereotype of American police as racist and triggerhappy is way older than the Zimmerman case.

>the media
>the AMERICAN media
>the goddamn jolly african-american hating heavy metal hating jesus christ cocksucking drugs hating media
>left

Are you fucking kidding me? Are you fucking retarded? How many fucking pipes of crack did you fucking smoke before you shat that shard of crystalized retardation all over the internet? Holy fucking shit jolly african-american, what is wrong with you? Get your shit together Tyrone!
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Fucking Brupperpog - Sat, 27 May 2017 11:15:40 EST ID:0B9qh6RW No.392711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392695
>in general, the media have a left wing slant
lolno our media is controlled by babyboomers and conservative gen Xers who feel threatened by hoodies and that newfangled rap music.
The primary viewers of cable news is babyboomers and conservative gen Xers, hence why Fox gets the highest ratings.

>I can't say why they decided to run with this story, but they did, and they gave it a fairly typical American liberal spin.
They ran it because there was controversy. Every week or two an unarmed man gets murdered by police or something similar, and like half the time he's black.

The media might mention it in passing, everyone says it's terrible and/or we don't know what happened and should wait for the investigation to find the cop feared for his life and doesn't need to go to trial, but there's no real controversy.

This story however fell right in the fault line where both sides felt theirs was defensible.
The story wasn't chosen because it was a good case for the narrative either side wanted to push, it was one of the least clear-cut cases for any narrative involved.
It was chosen because both sides media are driven by viewership, and viewers respond well to controversial shit.
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Samuel Brussleridge - Mon, 29 May 2017 19:54:39 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.392864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392708
remember that the democrats are considered "left" by american standards, despite easily being center-right by european standards. anyone who isn't a trumpshill is basically a lefty libruhl gommunist to these folks.
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Edwin Curryfoot - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 01:03:16 EST ID:i1eo8CqX No.394258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>392695
>But in general, the media have a left wing slant.
You'd think a left wing media would do a better job of promoting left wing candidates, but I'm sure this all makes sense somehow.
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Ebenezer Bunlock - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 02:03:02 EST ID:4apPyfAJ No.394259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394258 because the media needs dem clicks and his amount of coverage was in their best interest. Trump was the media's drama dealer and they are fiending for free bait.
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Martin Wuddlestock - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 02:16:24 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394259
The image illustrates "The media acts in its own interest" and "the media acts in the interest of liberals" are mostly exclusive.
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Ebenezer Biffingmad - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 07:04:52 EST ID:CEwaqJCO No.394265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392711
fuck, i forgot just how fucked fox news is. nb
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Ebenezer Bunlock - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 10:03:58 EST ID:4apPyfAJ No.394266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394260
Most of their coverage of him was throwing shade covering trump was to shittalk him, even fox news was not above this at tines. They gave him a platform unwittingly. You can say getting caught was part of the plan.
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Martin Wuddlestock - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 15:36:59 EST ID:nppI2w1T No.394272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394266
>Most of their coverage of him was throwing shade covering trump was to shittalk him
Of course it was, anger generates the most views and it doesn't take much to create an enraging story from Trump's actions.
If the news were willing to sacrifice potential viewers to hurt Trump, they would have ignored him.
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Shit Chublingfield - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:23:48 EST ID:J0+cEcSr No.394293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394266
Ever hear the phrase "there's no such thing as bad publicity"?
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Phineas Billingman - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 15:01:35 EST ID:+NSAEK8g No.394326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394266
Yeah, this was probably the real narrative.

The journalists hate Trump, but their paycheck providers LOVE him to pieces.

The whole idea of a "liberal bias" in the media has always been laughable as fuck.
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Samuel Honeyworth - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 15:03:01 EST ID:B6zBmD+f No.394327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>391469
Meme criminology is a separate field from standard policing. Meme police just operate differently. That's all.
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James Cudgelock - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:30:37 EST ID:VyDbN5in No.394357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I mean, if a leftist media is one that ignores leftist politicians, runs interference for corporate politicians, and "accidentally" gets right-wing politicians elected...

Then why even complain? Sounds like the "left media" is one hell of a godsend for the right. You should be defending that shit, if anything.
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Samuel Duckridge - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 08:36:47 EST ID:GmnmeIgt No.394359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394357
Because only when leftist media is incompetent does the right see any benefit. They're trying their darndest to do the opposite though and the issue is that one day they might start succeeding.
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James Cudgelock - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:11:04 EST ID:VyDbN5in No.394361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>394359
>They're trying their darndest to do the opposite though
How exactly does one try and fail to run positive stories about leftist candidates? A cat ran across the keyboard and accidentally changed all the Sanders praise to Clinton praise and Trump mentions? And this kept happening, accidentally, for months on end? And this coming off of 6-years of accidentally helping their own team to lose more and more state and local and Congressional elections?

When was the last time that you "tried your darndest" to write something good about someone but somehow ended up writing the complete opposite? Is this a thing that you regularly see happening?

This is like Truther thinking: a vast, shadowy conspiracy funded and controlled by the richest and most powerful people in the world, employing the best agents and manipulators that corrupt money can buy, singularly focused on one clear goal... And constantly making the dumbest, most boneheaded, most amateur fuck-ups this side of a comedy farce. Sinister puppet masters acting like bumbling cartoon henchmen, the best-kept secret that every uneducated hick in the country knows about.

It's a far simpler proposition, and far more likely, that you're simply mistaken.
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Jack Fuckingwill - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:19:01 EST ID:d2K5URtx No.394362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394357
>Then why even complain?
because complaining about the "liberal media" if one of the few things that actually unites all republicans, from the evangelicals, to the alt right, to the super wealthy.
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Samuel Duckridge - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:08:33 EST ID:GmnmeIgt No.394368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394361
Their fuckups arent that boneheaded. Theyre actually quite understandable when you realize that the old Media is still playing the old Game. They merely don't have the handbook to deal with the modern internet savvy public. The first episode of the show Black Mirror does a great job of demonstrating this in an entertaining way.
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James Cudgelock - Thu, 06 Jul 2017 12:33:23 EST ID:VyDbN5in No.394371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394368
>Their fuckups arent that boneheaded.
So in your estimation, doing the exact opposite of what you supposedly set out to accomplish and getting mocked mercilessly for it doesn't rise to the level of boneheaded fuckup?

What a fascinating comedy of errors your life must be.

>Theyre actually quite understandable when you realize that the old Media is still playing the old Game. They merely don't have the handbook to deal with the modern internet savvy public.
So the old handbook of the leftist media was "ignore the leftist candidate, mock and dismiss his most prominent policy planks, slander his supporters, endorse his centrist primary opponent with the fury of a thousand suns, and give the right-wing opposition party billions of dollars of free publicity"? That is the behavior of a leftist media? And this somehow would have worked without something something internet?

You really expect anyone to believe that?
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Phyllis Tillingwater - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 15:58:40 EST ID:kZUMXybj No.396838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>394371
The conspiracy-minded right doesn't care about producing anything that could be empirically tested to determine its veracity. They want theories that "sound good" and appeal to gut instinct. Constructing a narrative where the "leftist media" is conspiring against the President is easy, entertaining, and allows you to stretch the truth to its thinnest margins (if there's any truth to any of it at all, Infowars for example just discards any semblance of truth altogether, spreading disinfo and black propaganda under the guise that they're the only ones who know the truth - classic cult tactics).

Chomsky and Hermann produced a scientific media critique, but it says that all media outlets are susceptible to corruption if they're run on a for-profit basis, or even if they're non-profit, because their actual and potential revenue flows determine what they report and how they report it. So no one in the United States knows about the massacre of communists in Indonesia or South Korea, or the murder of union organizers throughout Latin America, or the CIA's covert support of genocide in Central America, but everyone knows about Castro killing some torturer in 1959, and everyone knows about the North Korean prison system. That's where the money is, and you don't get flak from influential politicians and corporate entities if you report badly on America's enemies. But produce an accurate report detailing the Coca-Cola company's support for right-wing death squads, and, well, they pull advertising on your network and you lose revenue. Profit seeking enterprises are going to avoid that. Non-profits will just report what their donors want to hear, like every think tank in existence.

The right, as per usual, has jettisoned reason, logic, and evidence, in favor of conspiracy theories. The latter is far more entertaining than the former (seriously, give Manufacturing Consent a read and see how long it takes you to fall asleep), but there's something to be said about how entertainment distorts the truth. With the right-wing media, the emphasis is on entertaining readers and appealing to their biases, to keep them coming back and watching or clicking or whatever depending on the medium. The left-wing media does the same thing, but right-wing media is far more flagrant in its disavowal of truth and journalistic integrity. It's funner and easier to think that there's some organized conspiracy against the common man than to simply recognize that any such conspiracy is the result of the way our society and economy (and the two are inextricable) are structured. There might be conspiracies between bosses or managers to prevent workers from unionizing, but they do that to keep the rate of profit high, not because they're just very, very, evil. And the latter explanation is what the Alex Joneses of the world like to proffer. Then, you don't have to do any of the hard work, or even propose a decent alternative. You can just incomprehensibly yell about freedom and 1776 and just disregard actual history and scientific analysis.

And of course referring to CNN and even MSNBC as "leftist media" is fucking retarded and just goes to show how much the far right actually dominates American political discourse. When Hillary Clinton is the far left, I don't know what the fuck that makes me. Hyperleft? Shieeeet.
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Phyllis Sullerpune - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 02:30:33 EST ID:/sASuyOE No.396858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392071
>Doesnt know what yankee means
Whats up Eurocunt
Protip: yanks are only in New England. Its like calling northern germans Bavarians, or someone from Ireland a Limey. Please try not to embarrass yourself next time
Also go back to /leftypol/ with the rest of the tankie edgelords
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Phyllis Sullerpune - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 02:35:52 EST ID:/sASuyOE No.396859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>392071
>Doesnt know what yankee means
Whats up Eurocunt
Protip: yanks are only in New England. Its like calling northern germans Bavarians, or someone from Ireland a Limey. Please try not to embarrass yourself next time
Also go back to /leftypol/ with the rest of the tankie edgelords
>But im trying not to be a European superiority stereotype
And yet, you are. Assuming a bunch of dumb shit about a place you've never been, based on nothing but the internet. This is why I just left /leftypol/ to come here, the /int/ bullshit is annoying and childish ever since the last American Election.
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Isabella Magglestat - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:44:43 EST ID:nItGYd63 No.396862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396859
>ignorant of different meanings of words in different locales
>responds to a post from fucking May to make a vacuous point
>>>>/leftypol/

You're a piece of work, kid.
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Fucking Blytheson - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:09:02 EST ID:dGw4dHyr No.396940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396859
You are a retard and need to go back to the future
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Edward Turveygold - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:23:22 EST ID:7vXpw3uu No.396942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396859

thats real fuckin neato, lad
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Frederick Bezzlewater - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 22:48:36 EST ID:KVQJ8U2S No.397033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>396859
>Yankees
>New England
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Caroline Favingstock - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:05:53 EST ID:GnpVqSi1 No.397102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Once he and James field get into prison (county jails will have em in PC) they are fucked. Two very high profile cases. Gangs and pissed off inmates will be at their throats. Theyll get a real taste of "the thugs" they hate so much and realize they have no chance of winning a war against them, especially without access to their little firearms. Sure there's white gangs in prison but they work with Mexican and Muslims and more or less just a result of prison race politics. Theyll end up raping these lads in the shower once they find out they're flying blue lives matter flags. Going to prison with a law and order moral set aka a snitch state of mind is no bueno.
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Cornelius Pemmlekane - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 10:20:06 EST ID:Vwoc9qnJ No.397106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>396859
>European superiority stereotype
>by assuming a bunch of dumb shit about a place you've never been
lol no, pretty sure that's the ignorant, dumb, unwordly american stereotype.

>what yankee means
what yankee means depends on the context. how do you not know this as an american?

>/leftypol/
>/int/
just go back, you flaming fucking faggot cripplechan reject.


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