>>28514
I think I need to re evaluate my topic.
What are some do and don'ts for filling out accounts on job search sites? Namely when they ask how many years experience with a skill, do they mean how many years have I been using it our how many years have I known it or what?

>>28515

I imagine what they'd value most is your experience working with teams of people on larger-scale projects. Experience with coding is one thing, but working with others to do so is a different beast and requires different skills.

Maybe get into some collaborative projects in your free time that aren't "professional" per say? Open-source projects where you'll have to share your/maintain others' code might be a good place to start.

When a company is looking for someone with 7 years of experience that doesn't mean they are looking for someone that took 7 years to get their degree.

>>28517
So counting experience using some language in an academic environment on my dice profile would be misleading to employers? Are they looking for professional experience only?

>>28520

They are looking for a fucking unicorn. The only thing you should concern yourself with is what lies you can get away with telling.

3 CSS files for different resolution and loading them on the fly via JS is the best way. RWD is fine as long as you don't confine yourself to the one file BS.

>>28493
Why use JS? CSS media-queries actually degrade properly when your visitor has NoScript or something running.

>>28493
@media queries is enough I think

>>28503
Yes. I can't think of any general situations where using JS to load your stylesheet(s) is in any way advantageous. And the specific situations I can think of, I'd rather use something like Modernizr to apply those classes/styles as needed.

I'm in the process of moving away from (mostly) fixed-width sites to RWD myself. I have a great template with a custom 12-column elastic grid framework, all the necessary JS plugins/fallbacks, etc. that I use with clients' projects. When I can pull it off, it's very satisfying.

The biggest hurdles for me are, first, getting used to designing for responsive layouts, and especially working from mobile up. Visually striking and authentic designs are easy enough for fixed-width sites, but RWD practically necessitates "flat" design which, to me, is just so trendy and obvious that it feels like cheating.

The second is the extra technical challenges involved, from fallbacks for browsers that don't support media queries (though "mobile first" greatly reduces the headache there) and the "border-box" box model (very necessary for percentage-width layouts), to making sure columns' heights are equal at different resolutions, testing on different mobile browsers in addition to different desktop browsers, etc. etc. etc.

I think there's still a good argument for a completely separate mobile site when function (not form) is much different from the desktop counterpart, because your users split into two camps: touch interfaces and short attention spans vs. traditional interfaces and... traditional attention spans? But if you're just delivering content and not requiring much user interaction, RWD seems to be the way we're headed.

>>27924
People have made beautiful sculptures out of animal feces.
It's still shit.

>>27926
php, java, and perl.

Sounds good

PHP is fine unless your a noob, but python is better imo

Bump for interest.

Starting off with too much convenience can cause one to develop bad habits, but there's no reason to go slugging through the trenches either just because the old timers tell you it's "the only way to be a REAL programmer".

I think the general rules of avoidance for newbies are:

1 ) Avoid IDEs until you're experienced enough and tackling big projects

2 ) Pretty much what >>28469 and >>28470 said

There's nothing wrong with a little copy and paste cargo cult programming now and then. If you need to do something in VBscript but can't justify the time spent in doing it right then that's what you're going to be doing, oldfag or not.

>>28485
This is especially important in web design. I'll write my own HTML, SQL, XML, CSS, Javascript... But when I can't be bothered to fumble with retarded PHP, it's off to google!

>>28486
This sounds like a recipe for catastrophe. PHP by design is insecure. It is, apart from SQL, the only thing that really runs something on the server. And last but not least most PHP on the wild is written by first time coders who have no idea what they are doing.

Combine these and you are copying code the original author knows just that 'It kinda works', it's very hard to tell if it has serious security hazards (uploading new files, downloading anything in the machine or network) unless you read it through, understand it well and check that each function used is not deprecated and replaced by a new function with an extra 'real_' -prefix. And if you do that you might be as well writing the whole thing.

I would much rather have you copying html, xml and css. Even javascript.

No. Every single piece of code should be hand written. You should never use a auto complete feature. Or look at anyone's code. In fact don't bother with babbys first languages like PHP, C, C++. C#, VB, basically anything with .NET tacked on, Perl, Pascal, Haskell, Brain f*ck, Python, Fortran, in fact everything should be done in hand coded Assembler at the bare minimum, Machine Code or Binary preferred.

Anything else and your not a REAL coder.

>>28526

There are many examples of this on Google.

Perhaps what you need is a tutorial on loops? Google is also helpful for that.

Or is there something specific that you are having troubles with?

>>28521
Depends on how bare-bones you like your OS. Me? Lubuntu. Comes with enough packages pre-installed that you can use it like a "typical" consumer OS but not too many that you're draining your laptop's battery, and I've found that dev work is a piece of cake on it.

On some board there was a thread about chromebook. The commonly accepted answer to the lack of space was to get a large sdxc card. For the distro I have no meaningful opinion.

Good luck with your new hobby.

install gentoo

>>28522
cool, i just need it to be able to code on it, bare bones or not
videogame would be cool though, like a steam account or something

>>28523
yeah i went out and bought a few

>>28525

>code a steam account

>>28510

"My sequel"

>>28511
I like to pronounce SQL as "sqwull".

>>28512
And in our language we call it commonly 'mysli'. The difference however is that I don't assume everyone will understand it off the bat.

>>28471

google 'modular programming'

/thread

>Op asks for help with code
>No code in thread

Op needs to hit the books, not ask vague questions in threads

What in the fuck is going on here

holder = processes;
processes = processes;
processes = holder;

>>28497
a=b
b=b
and
c = b
duh.

>>28498
Why the fuck is it going on there

>>28500
some of the variables are most likely suffixed with an underscore (_). In our university we do that instead of the more common "m_" prefix for object variables. Then the board software thinks that a few underscores here and there are supposed to mark underlined text.

>>28498
No, it says

a = b;
b = b;
b = a;

Those last two lines won't do anything of course, and will be optimised out

>>28231

Where are you looking? I made passing mention on linkedin that I want to be in the nyc area and the recruiters won't leave me the fuck alone.

You need to stay off of the fucking job boards, they're nothing but a waste of time. Make your profile 100% on linkedin. Then put together a network. Start with people you know. Join groups that interest you and have good member numbers. Next, look for LIONs (linkedin open networkers) in the: areas you want to be, your field, tech recruiter field.

Don't believe linkedin's bullshit that you should know everyone on your list. Linkedin's true potential lies in the advanced search. The bigger your network, the more people you can find in the advanced search without a premium account.

Keep your status updates on, it keeps you on your entire network's radar.

Tldr: job boards are for suckers, use linkedin.

It makes me laugh now but the oldskool AOL and AIM progs and punters scene got me interested in coding.

That and using Sub Seven by Mobman alot lmao.

Needed to make the computer do things for me.

>>28467
You got this from an MIT lecture video.

I could use some of these answers to answer job interview questions as an idea.

Thanks OP for asking.

Honestly this is a better method imho.

'VBS File Code:

Option Explicit
On Error Resume Next
Dim Shell
Set Shell = wscript.CreateObject("WScript.Shell")
Shell.Run ("Calc")
'This is what vbs what meant for on windows really, simple tasks, not full apps.
'Unless you are using it with web programming in your .html files, but this only works for IE. You are better of with Javascript or PHP for this purpose.
'VBS is only a scripting language it doesn't have the same oop capability as the VB6 or .NET progamming language's. If u knew this already good for u!!

>>28450
Haha, wow, you must be a true V-E-T, eh oldtimer? Golly, I wish I got started back when you did, I might have half the knowledge you do now. If only I could lick the edge of your prepuce so that I might glean some knowledge from your urea-encrusted epidermis.

>On Error Resume Next

this is terrible, and you should feel terrible.

>>28490

You actually can't do error handling via the On Error event handler in pure VBS, you must instead either let it throw and error or Resume Next and manually check Err.Number to see if it's not 0, also you have to remember to clear the error afterwards (Err.Clear).

TL;DR: It's fine as long as you're not working in VBA or VB.

>>28490
bro, i'm a sysadmin and i don't give a shit about getting every last workstation in my vbscrpts, that's why we have a help desk. i have bigger fish to fry

>>28410
got invalid syntax

>>28412

Can't have except without try. Where's your try?

ahh it worked! ty 420chan

i imagine i would just have to loop it to keep it asking for an int or float now

>>28414

Yeah, nice work man!

And yup, I would have a loop that contains the inputting that only exits and does the rest of the program if a proper value has been inputted.

So generally (not valid python, just pseudo-ish-code):

while (not valid input)
input value
if value is valid then
exit while
end if
end while

print value*2

>>28414
now donate!

>>28453
Don't waste a process ;)

grep ^foo yourchatlog.txt

>>28455
Actually I completely forgot that grep could take a file as input for some reason. I always send it piped output from a process or something that it didn't even come to mind. Good call, thanks.

>>28456

i have a habbit of doing the same thing. also, if you need to make a file of those lines you can

grep ^asdfadfad yourchatlog.txt > asdfasdf.txt

Regex. Assuming your string of control characters was <<

^(<<.*)

Alot of langues like vb have a replace function that looks like this.

Str = Replace(StringToReplace,"TextToReplaceHere", "") ' Replace anytext with no text!!!

That code might help even if you don't know the language.