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First programming language(s) to learn by Samuel Bardwater - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 04:15:25 EST ID:s5UXSHt+ No.36573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was thinking of starting to try to learn python. I was just wondering, I know I can easily search up stuff but I want some stoner programmers to give me an idea of whether or not I want to pursue this. I wish to make MUD like games but with a GUI. What is the best language(s) to learn to make MUDS
Frederick Fannerforth - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 06:52:14 EST ID:YL0YFsWq No.36574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Making a decent game takes a long time.
Be prepared for the fact that the first ten games you make will be complete shit.
Graham Summleway - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 14:44:52 EST ID:9QSfnS0r No.36576 Ignore Report Quick Reply

for this kind of purpose it's actually the non-plus ultra. You don't want to deal with half-assed third party GUI libraries for languages like python, believe me.

The only excuse you would have not to do it that way would be if you actually learn something nobody else cares about (I used to be weird that way)
In this case perhaps do write in in C, for DOS in VGA mode.
Clara Honeyforth - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:36:08 EST ID:85radtkI No.36577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you are into doing web development that's fine, but it is really disingenuous to tell someone starting out that they shouldn't consider Python, one of the primary languages used in both industry and academia. I don't know when you were using Python, but at the moment there are few languages with more support for anything in particular that you would like to do.
Esther Bocklehidge - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:36:58 EST ID:cpPd0VLJ No.36578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Augustus Mippershaw - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:44:13 EST ID:9QSfnS0r No.36579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't say that, doing the approach I mentioned and writing as much as possible in python and for instance a backend tool like flask would be my choice for this exercise for instance.
I just would advocate against a complete newbie trying to write a game in pygame or even worse with opengl bindings.

The one alternative that would make sense for me in that regard (writing a game to learn programming) would be processing.
It entirely depends on OP's background though, and I realize my suggestion was the least possible nerdy way do do it.

So, OP
If you really want to learn programming as a hobby, and definitely don't care about doing it in any modern way you could take a look the demoscene...
In the archive/the ftp there are files about learning coding the way you used to learn it from the 90s onwards. And you'd start with C/C++, perhaps a little bit of OpenGL.
You might as well start here:
Augustus Mippershaw - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 15:48:13 EST ID:9QSfnS0r No.36580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I couldn't leave without pointing out this is BS.
I've written full games on a graphical calculator with 32K program memory in BASIC. Do you even know what a mud is?

Quick look it up....
right, thought as much :)
Phineas Brecklestock - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 16:42:41 EST ID:JfvrqUKV No.36581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just because MUDs are simple doesn't mean your first MUD won't be hot garbage.
Augustus Mippershaw - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 17:03:54 EST ID:9QSfnS0r No.36582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Phineas Brecklestock - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 18:18:25 EST ID:JfvrqUKV No.36583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
True story: 20 years ago I made a large multiplayer map for an RTS (also simple), spent a long time uploading it over my Motorola 28.8, and two minutes into playing it with some strangers I was like holy shit everything about this was a mistake and I just disconnected.

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