420chan now has a web-based IRC client available, right here
Leave these fields empty (spam trap):
You can leave this blank to post anonymously, or you can create a Tripcode by using the float Name#Password
A subject is required when posting a new thread
[*]Italic Text[/*]
[**]Bold Text[/**]
[~]Taimapedia Article[/~]
[%]Spoiler Text[/%]
>Highlight/Quote Text
[pre]Preformatted & Monospace text[/pre]
1. Numbered lists become ordered lists
* Bulleted lists become unordered lists


Community Updates

420chan now supports HTTPS! If you find any issues, you may report them in this thread
Schools turned into psychic-wards by Childfree 4life - Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:24:38 EST ID:wN9L5jv0 No.208300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1501233878679.jpg -(20439B / 19.96KB, 590x350) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 20439
What the fuck is wrong with children at schools nowadays?!

It turned really to the worse!

Learned it the hard way during an internship:

Children don't learn any essential behavioral patterns anymore. 90% are getting their educational input by some arsehole youtuber and the parents just don't care.

So the teacher has too often the role of educating these hellspawns in basic social-skills!

Too often I hear stupid parents say shit like "we were bad in school too! We did also pull pranks and were disrespectfull" (best if done in hearing-range of their hellspawn!)

but I dare you to visit a regular school or Campus these days: There is a difference between smoking in secret at the restrooms or attacking teachers with scissors (and beeing a disrespectful cunt in general)
10 posts and 1 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
Fanny Fanman - Mon, 31 Jul 2017 01:49:22 EST ID:7RQyvIWs No.208313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i remember once in junior high school a jolly punched me in the chest because he thought i was cutting him in line when i wasnt. i literally looked at him in confusion for about 2 seconds and said what the fuck before some overzealous teacher lunged over and barked OKAY BOYS YOU ARE GOING TO THE OFFICE WITH ME LETS GO, long story short we both got a day of in-school suspension (sit in a room and do fuck-all) because the school had a zero tolerance policy on fighting. all i did was be confused after getting a smack and i got punished. the vice principal even admitted it was wrong but just herp derped about zero tolerance. so i learned if anyone ever touches me again, retaliate.
Molly Fillyson - Mon, 31 Jul 2017 14:42:04 EST ID:q4aiqGlQ No.208315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It helped me in the sense that I need to take responsibility for my own actions. Miss bahaving and punishment go hand in hand people need to be punished for they do wrong, that is the rule of law and why it's in place.
Nicholas Droblingdure - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 01:51:36 EST ID:N0Eu5lTp No.208316 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You haven't really given me the how, though, which is what I asked..
Sophie Banderway - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 05:16:17 EST ID:9MuVP7BI No.208318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What are you talking about OP.

You go to any private school, and the way the students behave is 100% different. The public schools are different, because you can be a deadbeat piss of shit and have your son get an education for free, with other offspring of pieces of shit. I often went from public to private and the difference was huge.

Good teachers don't want to teach in the ghetto.
Priscilla Hallerdutch - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:49:21 EST ID:wxBgTiLc No.208422 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But, teachers want money and benefits. At least in the US, public school teachers (generally speaking) get paid more. So unless you are teaching at a top notch school (and even then, i have no idea what you are paid there), you are likely making less than the shit bags at a decent local district.


The Existence of Whiteness and White People by Frederick Blackson - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 01:46:29 EST ID:UIYk/9cB No.208391 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1503121589960.png -(210781B / 205.84KB, 354x409) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 210781
It should be obvious here that this is relevant to the events that occurred in Charlottesville, VA. I'm also assuming that the majority of people here consider themselves white, so it's also relevant in that regard. Also, it might be obvious that I'm not writing from the perspective of a white person. But I think it's worth asking anyway.

My questions are thus: in what way(s) do white people exist? And why does an ethnonationalist project (like the Nazi's, KKK, perhaps the alt-right) depend on a white identity?

Is white a race? An ethnicity? A skin tone? A set of cultural acts?

It seems to me that white people don't really exist for three reasons. One, you can easily substitute a "white" identity with an ethnic one. That is, you can identify yourself as Irish, Scandinavian, German, etc. I think that here, to identify yourself as white is a category mistake.

Second reason is a pragmatic one. Why should we insist on a white identity when so many other identities are better? Why can't you identify as a Starcraft 2 player, a metalhead, a juggalo, a frequent masturbator, etc.? I imagine that telling people that you're white has no reflection as to what you actually do or are. There's no need to hold on to a white identity when there are plenty that more accurately describe your being or group (and ethnicity is included here). Whiteness, in other words, is just an empty signifier.

The third reason is political and relates to the point about whiteness being an empty signifier. I think that it's because whiteness is an empty signifier that groups like the Nazis or the KKK are able to utilize and capitalize on it. Because it is an empty signifier, you can use it to mean whatever you want to mean. You can use the concept of "whiteness" against certain minorities (like the Jews in the case of Nazi Germany, like Mexicans in contemporary US).

This is why, I think, the left and the liberals failed horribly in the last election. The emphasis on the tolerance of minority groups and the fact that there is white privilege and therefore white people need to atone for their sin of being white has produced a political climate where people who identify as white become more radical and more extremist.

Hence it's no wonder that there was the rise of the alt-right and Donald Trump who were able to appeal to those who identified as white, since it was liberals are quick to demand that white people repent for their whiteness. Whiteness here is a trap that you can't get out of, because there's literally nothing you can do about being white except be guilty about it. And those who don't want to feel guilty about it are going to find ways to redeem that identity, such as the case in the alt-right. Now I'm not saying that a project toward greater equality should be abandoned, but I think that in order to get out of the liberal guilt trap of being white, it would be necessary to abandon a white identity.
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
6 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
Nigel Mabberlig - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 22:11:28 EST ID:dujyWqP+ No.208412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They aren't considered "black" because they don't comprise a significant minority in the states. Also black is more of a cultural identity than an ethnicity. Indian people aren't protesting getting shot and assaulted by police and wanting people to recognize their lives matter.

Never really thought about it but it is weird how there are light-skinned black people but a darker-skinned Indian wouldn't be considered "black". Language and its little quirks, eh?

If you want to be really specific, you could say "People-of-predominantly-African-decent-living-in-America" but from an anthropology standpoint, that's technically everyone in America.
Fanny Himmlegold - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 13:45:04 EST ID:C55TPusg No.208413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Never really thought about it but it is weird how there are light-skinned black people but a darker-skinned Indian wouldn't be considered "black"

Yeah and what about the words themselves now that we're at it? They're not fucking black, they're brown. And we're pink. And asian people aren't yellow, they're fucking pale. Is this a Reservoir Dogs kind of deal? Black people don't want to be associated with shit and white people don't want to be associated with femininity?

But imagine if we stuck to actual fact, and used the correct words. We would have to learn the name of all the different shades of brown and pink, it would be an artistic revolution, and no one would get offended by being pointed out with chromatic precision.. I mean that takes effort, some kind of care, way more than just saying black like a slobbering dichromatic retard.

Plus, racists would be confused as fuck. Oh you hate brown people? Yeah fuck them.. Wait do you mean seal brown or burnt umber? Fuck you, you burnt umber lover! Only seal brown allowed here! Ah what the fuck did I expect from a champagne pink motherfucker. Sieg heil for baby pinks and seal browns! Fuck every other shade!
Jack Semmerway - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 22:26:38 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually, white people are just pale brown. Sit in the sun long enough and any white person will turn brown eventually.

Even Kirt.
Shitting Pindlehood - Mon, 04 Sep 2017 13:07:53 EST ID:PZgmROe3 No.208416 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That's just the sun being a sjw stallion.
Reuben Lightman - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:46:34 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this is an issue that has been plaguing me lately.

Spent about two weeks in a psychiatric hospital. The second day there was a massive rift over racism that had been going on since before i was there and a big fight. The whole thing eventually led to me publicly crying for the rest of the day.

Was made even more ironic when i overheard slashed guess the white guy who shared my first name as a spanish speaker and it turns out he did speak spanish. I sort of assumed the casual informality he may have employed using the n word from his spanish expertise and internet ethos leading to an open conflict that basically led to a two week moment to moment suspense of racism, after i had already been struggling with it since 2016 when another friend tried to call a black friend the n word in a role play excercise for a movie we were filming in character and then got slapped in character.

So aside from affecting the safe explorative space of the creative rainbow it's entered into my mental health recovery as well.

We don't get race in america if were calling something the dreamer act that advocates deporting parents of kids who grew up in america.

White people never get how perception is actually there and act like politics and the world we see in the news and on screen is a million miles away and we can't apply ourselves or have it apply to us.

who even am I by Barnaby Cashkure - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 22:28:27 EST ID:Q9kaYENz No.208281 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1500431307328.jpg -(154217B / 150.60KB, 767x581) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 154217
I had an interaction with my daughter just now and it spiraled into some sort of existential terror

My son and daughter were in their room supposed to be going to sleep, but I heard her come out of her room and was just coming out to give me a hug.

I didn't react negatively to this - I don't want to say because I'm a nice person - but just because I am the way that I am. You might wonder, why would anyone react negatively to something like that? I don't know. But there are people in the world that would have.

They would have screamed at her for coming out of her room when she's supposed to be in bed, and she would have gone back to bed heartbroken when all she wanted was a hug. And thus the relationship between her and her parent would have been damaged (even further than it probably already would have been).

And when thinking this through, I thought "Well, I sure am glad that I'm not that way." But isn't that strange? I didn't get to decide or choose to be the way that I am. Or at the very least, I didn't choose to be the type of person that chooses to be the way that I am. I just randomly rolled these "stats".

It's horrifying to imagine everything that I could have been.
10 posts and 2 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
Basil Blemmerwill - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:53:33 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You goddamn fucking retard. Quantum mechanics have no influence on above-subatomic processes due to the observer effect. Your brain functions on a molecular level, meaning its processes are too big to get influenced by quantum mechanics. All parts of your brain are constantly causing the observer effect.
Arren Kae - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:52:21 EST ID:e8hfwBjx No.208406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1503777141400.png -(43094B / 42.08KB, 185x226) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>By virtue of being limited and finite, we can only conceive of particular possibilities to an event and from these particular possibilities there is nonetheless the option to choose among those possibilities.
>the option to choose among those possibilities

That is very the assumption cited by proponents of hard determinism. By asserting that, as a defense of free will, we have the option to choose, you are only constructing a circular argument, and have failed to address the question at large: how can we know that we really had any choice, if we cannot go back and will the happening of any other outcome?

Watch how, despite all of your wisdom, one small error, the choice to attack someone else, has led to an immediate downward spiral in the quality of replies. For all the knowledge you might have shared, all you have wrought is anger and silence.
Graham Mobberhag - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 14:02:50 EST ID:hAlFpoKZ No.208418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1504980170731.jpg -(100635B / 98.28KB, 480x608) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.

Kreia is a cunt.
Reuben Gallysit - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 17:54:17 EST ID:T8KSfSmg No.208419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1504994057166.jpg -(120955B / 118.12KB, 1160x1160) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Im currently reading Free Will by Sam Harris, and it makes a strong case against the notion of free will.

here is a pdf:
Shitting Serrymug - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:11:14 EST ID:astY1ea6 No.208420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kreia is the most well-written character in the expanded star wars universe.

Political Science by Phineas Nicklebanks - Wed, 23 Aug 2017 13:37:19 EST ID:vmu9ElA5 No.208397 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1503509839765.jpg -(62058B / 60.60KB, 640x631) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 62058
Any Political Science majors?
Why is there so much theory in the course? Does it have any relevance in real life, or is it just academics being academics?
Edwin Nandernen - Wed, 23 Aug 2017 20:20:53 EST ID:UIYk/9cB No.208398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not a polisci major, but a philosophy major acquainted with political philosophical literature like The Republic, Marx, Rousseau, etc.

There is a lot of theory because we don't really know how to live or secure a good life (whether this is on an individual or social basis), which is the presumed goal of political thought.

Sure, political academic can get pretty abstract and esoteric and you might think that it's just academics circlejerking, but the hope is that the production of knowledge would entail a possibility of greater human freedom.
Phineas Clayfuck - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 06:06:02 EST ID:Zz8TWrGk No.208399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Political philosophy isn't really my area. I'm doing comparative analysis and research on international relations. I just think that the theory makes the studies very restricted as you always have to confirm or discard a theory instead of just looking at the available data.
Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 01 Sep 2017 21:54:41 EST ID:mXz0pukj No.208414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, my undergrad was PoliSci.

You need the theory to genuinely understand political concepts.

No disrespect, but clearly you're the quantitative type. That's great and all, but what knowledge base will you draw on that's not a machine?

Understanding the theories and concepts about why things are structured and occur the way they do help with intuitive thought process and making estimated guesses.

The vast knowledge accumulated from, say, Poli Sci (we take IR as well)+History minor+ Religious studies minor is amazing. You really understand how politics works from a ridiculous amount of perspectives and vantage points.

But I'm a bias academic so. The way I see it is, if you took my approach + maintained the quantitative, you're somebody who actually understands them, yet is able to transform that into quantitative data and legitimize Political Science as a "science".
Edwin Gacklewell - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 21:19:32 EST ID:cmOR3FR3 No.208417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I knew two guys with polisci degrees. One got a really good D.C. Job with the republicans then his mental illness made him just check out and his parents basically pay for him to be a homebody.

The other guy worked a low level job at google until some think tank hired him.

So the "usefulness" of the degree,like many others, is determined by how well you network.

Meditation by Phoebe Goodforth - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:45:31 EST ID:/XQxUE3u No.204775 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1453218331804.jpg -(552057B / 539.12KB, 1920x1200) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 552057
Hey guys I'm just starting to learn how to meditate. So far I can go up to 3 minutes and after that I can't focus any longer. But, I'd say I'm starting off good.

How many of you here meditate on a daily basis? In what way does it help you? What is your favorite type of meditation?

I'm learning sleep meditation and zen. I want to broaden my horizons and love myself again. With this meditation I hope to achieve a higher level of being and be able to like myself and have a positive outlook on life.
122 posts and 12 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
William Grandcocke - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:42:01 EST ID:TZEgBuHq No.207948 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I haven't done it myself, but I would say that you should meditate and try to find a place locally and talk to them and learn with them and practice with them if you're interested in such things. I think reading the sutras has value too but that might not do much for you if you aren't approaching it from within the tradition. This is assuming you haven't done this already. If you have, then you should know someone who you can talk to about these things who would be more equipped to talk about these things.
Cyril Lightdock - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 02:11:10 EST ID:A8KcvEdU No.208002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1491804670421.jpg -(30332B / 29.62KB, 620x430) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Not Buddhism but I visited the local mosque for the second time ever. Theres something about praying to Allah, with a group of other gentlemen, that set it apart from meditating alone
Jack Trotfield - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:51:11 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1491857471626.png -(25856B / 25.25KB, 325x244) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Nell Honeyfoot - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 15:01:04 EST ID:2Xf6CogU No.208408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1503946864577.jpg -(100710B / 98.35KB, 644x640) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
It's been a year and a half since I took up meditation. I feel like a whole different person now. No, i am a different person now. The old me was weak and insecure. Through meditation I have learned many things about myself and life itself. I see the world differently since I started doing this. I feel so grounded and happier. People have noticed that I'm doing good for myself and that I have changed. That's awesome in my book.

Hedda Fanbury - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:16:09 EST ID:hAlFpoKZ No.208411 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lmao tell that to the 10th dan of most martial arts organizations who can fuck your shit up with only a finger or two while smiling and teasing you and lecturing a whole class on how he is fucking your shit up

This t-shirt Ad uses Nazi Swastikas to share Peace, Love and Freedom by yobrosup - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 12:32:42 EST ID:7Y5vwbb4 No.208275 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1500136362952.jpg -(114365B / 111.68KB, 470x560) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 114365
This video advertises a clothing line which uses redesigned Swastikas as the main theme. Apparently the aim of this Ad is to destroy the stigmatization of the Nazi Swastika connecting the symbol to new meanings: Peace, Love and Freedom. Very interesting

6 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
Cedric Blytheson - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 11:49:06 EST ID:+GV+PbG2 No.208360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
eh no
Doris Mobblelock - Fri, 18 Aug 2017 16:07:18 EST ID:lCodc2Fn No.208388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looks like an attempt to normalize nazi philosophy including racial hierarchy and the suppression of political dissent.
Emma Chundlefut - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:52:53 EST ID:wx5UJDIc No.208403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Found the 12 year old
Edward Gaffingway - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:38:42 EST ID:e8hfwBjx No.208404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>This video advertises a clothing line which uses redesigned Swastikas as the main theme. Apparently the aim of this Ad is to normalize and de-stigmatize the Nazi Swastika, without effectively connecting the symbol to the new meanings. Very interesting
Fixed for clarity. Next time don't take a group at face-value
Edward Gaffingway - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 15:39:39 EST ID:e8hfwBjx No.208405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, caturday > lolcats
Never forgetti

On Psychedelics by The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sat, 12 Aug 2017 20:31:38 EST ID:hX9kQ/Yg No.208372 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1502584298520.jpg -(27351B / 26.71KB, 706x436) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 27351
Mental disorders ultimately take the form of repression reinforced by the ego, manifesting in the minor form as anxiety/depression and in the major as harmful abnormal behavior mounting in insanity. This is something already well known to modern psychology, but the approach of many is to judge which repressions are good verses those that are bad, and so the patient also judges which aspect of his/her repression is good/bad. This process “works” but is inefficient and ultimately only serves to reinforce the cause of the repression in the first-place, the ego.

The quickest, most human way of destroying repression and healing the psyche is to destroy the ego, this is because once the ego is destroyed one can face the complete form of emotion being repressed within the individual without said individuals' ego getting in the way... but as it turns out the medicine is also the poison. We face ego-death everyday, but only those who really face themselves know what ego-death is. Ego-death occurs when we give ourselves up to something completely, the two most common forms being produced from love and sex... anyone who has experienced ego death in these contexts know they've experienced something more than what is considered normal, a mind which is shared by all humanity that evokes both spiritual and religious awe and is ultimately analogous with love. The choices we face also force ego-death upon us, but in a lesser form, and it is how we face these choices, which either promote health and dissolve the ego, or repress our emotions and cause the ego to grow.

When ego-death is faced this causes a surge of emotion that produces anxiety in an individual that can either be acted on by fleeing from it, which builds the ego and causes repression, or by accepting it, which produces positive emotions. When someone acts by fleeing there is positive emotion only after the action chosen changes the situation, and so the ego becomes convinced that it made the "right" choice in context of a "wrong" one. However because the ego gets in the way of one resolving the full emotional content of which the anxiety has been generated from, the feelings and significance of the event which caused the anxiety …
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
2 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:22:52 EST ID:hX9kQ/Yg No.208379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think there is indeed a social responsibility to predict ambiguity, but only insofar as to what is relative towards what is being said in context to the environmental circumstances which the thing was placed in. I think those who view work as an act of dominating will, miss the joke of the irrelevancy of any work to achieve lasting effects. Like any Social Justice Warrior or a Neo-Nazi, they take acts of will far too seriously and loose themselves in the illusion of change, which inevitably leads to us vs them thinking.

Psychedelics and how they should be viewed in society catches me at my most political, because I think they represent a cause most void of political infighting. Instead of ideals changing peoples minds, it's a physical substance which has the power for people to change all on their own. Instead of trying to fight for a given truth, it represents the fight for individuals to find their own truth, and that is something I think is worth fighting for far more than any rally against a given inequality.
The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sun, 13 Aug 2017 17:49:49 EST ID:hX9kQ/Yg No.208380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Random thought, I would be really interested to see what Camus' reaction to LSD would have been.
Hamilton Harringwell - Wed, 16 Aug 2017 23:08:24 EST ID:w9KFVcbk No.208385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have an anxiety disorder. I get panic attacks with ego death I think. When I used to smoke a lot of weed I would feel gone and only be experiance. Panic attacks are a little like this. Also I just tell myself I am going to die and then it goes away.
Reuben Gorrywill - Thu, 17 Aug 2017 09:48:23 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well being able to acquire them some day would be nice it especially helps with philosophy and learning difficulties.
Shit Trothall - Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:18:34 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Mental disorders ultimately take the form of repression reinforced by the ego, manifesting in the minor form as anxiety/depression and in the major as harmful abnormal behavior mounting in insanity.

What the fuck? Mental disorders are abnormal thoughts, brought about by chemical inbalances or radically disturbing events unfolding around the unfortunate sufferer.

There's nothing about fucking egos. What the fuck you on about nigga.

transphobia by Isabella Danningstick - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:48:12 EST ID:D27gVweR No.208297 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1501174092415.jpg -(15352B / 14.99KB, 532x320) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 15352
Why is there so much more visceral hatred of trans people than gay or bi people? I've noticed this for a while but comment sections of recent news articles really brought it to light. I keep seeing over and over again people saying stuff like "I don't mind gays but trans people are mentally ill blahblah SJWs something something free speech" and people making a million "logical" excuses as to why trans people shouldn't have certain rights that don't really make sense and do nothing to really hide their irrational contempt but why is that really? Is it just because trans people are more noticeable? Less physically appealing generally to most people? "Icky"? I feel like anti-SJW crusaders have made this the hill they want to die on and it doesn't make a lot of sense considering the amount of trans people in their own community is vastly higher than average.

Also while I don't think it matters to save us some posts on this incredibly slow board I'm neither trans nor gay and I don't really get on the liberal outrage train very often I'm just a mostly neutral, vaguely left-leaning party.
44 posts and 9 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
Cedric Sanderstock - Sun, 13 Aug 2017 14:59:26 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
on the contraire, it's perhaps true that we were less insular. It was quite a known subject.

Alow me to use a metaphor, when we see a remote view that despite are differences creates an awareness of likeness it usually happens like the beatles.

The beatles didn't think everyone had to be the same, nor did they think everything was always the same everywhere in every way, but they also did often give detailed accounts of the past and noticed changes in the music climate, sometimes percieved ones that hadn't yet happened.

These often led to their greatest successes.

And also comparisons. For they were also once forged out of a similar public perception that got them rejected from i believe delta.

It wouldn't be that transvestite culture was never there much like the guitar group it reexploded and experienced an expansion that creates a newness on the political spectrum that itself has age old issues and memories.

Rupual was a hit show, back when mtv was ubiqtous, cher, donna summer, the rocky horror picture show, the drag queen itself, elmer fudd wearing garters...the list goes on.

So while it's odd to argue how we now public awareness by the acknowledgement of it as a phenomenon we can explore it's documents. We can at least know from this vantage point that whatever public awareness is and that it may like the nielson box not always line up perfectly with eyes and where they are pointed that it did exist in this phenomonen as complex and contradictory as fame and acceptance are hard to pin down, there easy to notate.
Cedric Sanderstock - Sun, 13 Aug 2017 15:06:44 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People found rock n roll. People found rock n roll again. Artists who hadn't played it since there youth reconnected with there youth as roots. It's ethos then made it's way into poetry and folk. The concept of your youth being your actual past in the same since that ancient people talked to there ancestors, made it into america's fufillment in self and identity.

Many people found acceptance and belonging in it, many people found it helped lift repression.

Many people searching for acceptance looked there, and found it.

So it happens all the time.

They had the same ideas of hip and square which in the seventies became more of an issue as in punk, often explaining so stringently what it took to have integrity and an increasingly trenchant and not even agreed upon in name musical life it often sounded on some outsets because of the deep questioning of authenticity of self and others like it was anti punk.

Like integrity and self recognition were side by side with battles of self esteem and your direct opposition.

That's what the climate is like now.
Shitting Cundernit - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 09:06:55 EST ID:wHhTFxph No.208381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck is your source? you may have watched too much south park to realise mr garrison isnt real or representative of transgenders...
Thor07834 - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 20:11:29 EST ID:tZO25Yzk No.208383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I heard a shrink explain that "sex is between you legs and gender is between your ears". Most people believe that is you look like a duck, etc., etc. that it has to be a duck. In humans we all fall along the continuum of straight on one side, gay on the other. But Bi- sits between those two points. All of us fall somewhere along the continuum. I believe that people are terrified to admit exactly where they rest on the line. As a result you have stupid people who believe they are either 100% straight or 100% gay. Not true, and remember all embryos start off female. Hormones change everything along the nine months. Try to sell that to the Mormons.
Hannah Turveyworth - Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:01:34 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well i understand people can fear categories. Categories being imposed upon us often makes us act incredibly awkward. Somewhat like new situations. But situations are often fine but categories while often most sought after because when we categorize we often specialize. But in a long situation or even anight out a group or situation imposing categories implies we might have to struggle to endeavor in a long night. Just like getting relegated to a certain duty at a job dramatically specializes but potentially narrows the field.

However you need the detail of the the method you work out of. And the category and organization you use.

the why of progress by Shit Carryfield - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 19:16:36 EST ID:jDHD98qF No.208255 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1498259796903.jpg -(241449B / 235.79KB, 787x931) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 241449
Also following the Anger Masturbations post about having a civil coversation, I'm going to ask a relatively simple question.

And it's this; we can all agree the state of the world is pretty chaotic, at least for a lot of people relative to five or ten years ago. This is clearly reflected in the politics of our times. No matter how bad things get and no matter how many people in response stop and say 'okay now is the time to really get serious and fix things, before there's no going back', things keep moving forward. The question I have is why. Why is it that the idea that things are wrong right now, and they were right in the past-- so universal, while any proposals to change things back are always controversial?

My biggest suspicion is the loud minority that destroys most civil conversations and keeps progress from being made. But surely if enough of the majority were trying they're best to do it, they should be able to carry on a conversation even despite a bit of trolling going on. So it also can be that people just aren't trying they're best, that they don't really care and they're distracted enough by the stresses of their lives to try to fix the world. Or maybe even the majority doesn't really care.

Or maybe, and this is the most interesting to me, this is all just an inevitability. There are technological revolutions going on that act on the human race as almost a sort of 'puberty', and it's insane to thing humans _would_ be able to keep on top of this. If this were the case, then what's going on sucks but it's fine, because people will learn to live with one another and things will even out.

Of course there's also the view that a certain portion of the population have just been so screwed over that they don't just not give a shit, they wanna burn everything down. They may not cognizantly be planning the end of the world, but they go 'eh fuck it maybe I will vote for X extreme referendum, one the one hand it might end well but even better it might end in the end of the world'. I've met a few people like that.

Maybe it's everyone? But the world is always complicated. Or maybe it's no one.. and thi…
Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
2 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
Fuck Sellerwire - Tue, 08 Aug 2017 23:44:49 EST ID:2QVpvEwX No.208349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
chaos is a ladder
Jack Cemmlefuck - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 02:58:11 EST ID:4FAq+MEK No.208351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because "the past" is usually code for "my past" and "was better" is usually code for "I didn't have to work back then"

There is no progress of humanity, just a bunch of changes with pros and cons, done by people with their own agenda. The human race is just the backdrop
Fanny Gandershit - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 11:41:48 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's often just as much code for "i did have to work back then" and "they don't have to work now"
Sidney Sengerhall - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 20:26:34 EST ID:4FAq+MEK No.208358 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Now that's just depressing
Samuel Bunham - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 13:02:01 EST ID:+oDzYIVl No.208362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's depressing but important. Because it's harmful rhetoric sometimes it's the beginning of people giving back to society. The past and memory is as much a mystery and at times even harder to take emotionally as/than the mysteries of space and time. It's the beginning of a human trial that can lead you into what you would call and elder in society. Dealing with the feelings of change flux and even angst and alienation can just lead you into an appreciation of the different generations as an discomfort.

Trans and Homophobia in Black Culture by Fanny Bungershit - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:24:03 EST ID:KAjNPewV No.208321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1501687443715.jpg -(107275B / 104.76KB, 960x720) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 107275

Recently, a black comedian made public statements claiming he would physically assault a woman if he "found out it was a guy". An article was posted in a FB group about the incident, so I asked if he had tried to use his blackness as an excuse for his transphobia. I caught lots of shit for being a racist but it's a known fact that homophobia and transphobia are prevalent in ethnic minority cultures, even in the U.S. Why is it okay for minorities to be homophobic and why can't anyone call attention to this problem without being called racist?
Doris Sucklefeck - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:35:21 EST ID:PRZEuW/2 No.208322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
because thanks to pc/victim culture that has been championed by hand-wringing knee-jerk reactionaries, you're not allowed to criticise minorities with legitimate concerns anymore. and you were all warned about this, but those who chose to speak up about it were called things with -ist and -phobic suffixes. nice to know that people like us were right though.

the phrase, "you've made your bed, now lay in it" comes to mind...
Jenny Mucklenuck - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:04:57 EST ID:6rrTuWfz No.208323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You literally only heard about this because he was called out on it. Stop with the fake outrage.
Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:11:39 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/pss/ is turning into /pol/.

I also don't think black people are afraid of gays or trannies so phobia doesn't make sense.

Additionally, I think there is a higher prevalence in black for homosexuality. I could be wrong on that but I think there are studies claiming somewhere around 7-10% of black males exhibiting homosexual traits or at the least bisexual tendencies. Again, I don't have that(those) study though. There is also a significantly higher likelihood for American blacks to be impoverished and or poor. Poverty is well known to be linked to herd mentality and bigoted tendencies. Along with hyperbolic ideas on what people should or shouldn't be. It doesn't take long to be around poor people to see that they all think people should be this or that and that they are very opinionated. Poor males will almost always think in terms of masculinity and other such shit. Being gay is for weak faggots etc. So homosexuality is persecuted in poor, black, males. Just as homosexuality is downtrodden by poor, white, males. The key here being poor and male obviously.

>Speaking from personal experience, there seem to be more gay black males but only slightly and don't even make gay jokes around black men who are from the ghetto or very poor. They get up in arms over anything homosex for whatever reason. "Thou Doth Protest Too Much" perhaps?

I guess it is a generalization or stereotype but poor people seem to have the biggest issue with homosexuality, just like poor people are more likely to be stupid, have a ton of kids, commit crimes, end up in prison, do drugs, be an addict, and be religious. I'm sure that will piss plenty of people off. Who are likely poor. Race doesn't really seem to matter as much aside from perhaps a potential higher rate of homosexuality in blacks.
Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:21:28 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Double post, kill me now amirite?

I dunno about where you live but if black people say faggot or chastise gays, they get the same level of punishment as white people or anyone else. At least in places where it matters. I don't rail on any comedian for anything unless they are unfunny. No jokes should be barred. It is comedy, I don't take anything a comedian says as rule of law or seriously. They are just trying to make you laugh. People who get pissed over a joke or a comedian are not people I associate with regardless.

Among friends, informal situation, etc nobody gets "punished" for homosexual slurs or "hate speech." Even if it gets posted online, only high profile people get shat on. Regular 9-5 black people, white people, etc aren't going to get punished by society for saying faggot or whatever. In the workplace, it is the same story for everyone, termination. In school it is the same story for everyone, expulsion. In public office, it is the same story for everyone, removed.

This whole double standard shit is retarded. Nobody gets preferential treatment anymore unless you have an army of lawyers to cover your ass. A rich black person can call white people the devil and his army of lawyers will cover him. A rich white person can scream niggers into a megaphone from a skyscraper and his army of lawyers will cover him. This is all such a joke and bread and circus for stupid people. The US and the world have much greater issues than the current level of racism/hatespeech/whatever we have. The (bigotry issues) has been quelled enough now that other fires need to be put out.

>But retards love an Us vs. Them riot.
Matilda Senderhutch - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 08:24:59 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1502108699070.gif -(40395B / 39.45KB, 159x90) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
Black people tend to be kneedeep in the retarded Jesus Christ desert demon worshipping death cult bullshit. You know, that idiotic religion imported from Judea.

Religion ruins everything. Save the planet. Kill Christians. 666 speed metal for lyfe /thread

Racism by Rebecca Greenwill - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:52:29 EST ID:RJGzRrNh No.207576 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1484290349984.gif -(7478B / 7.30KB, 300x225) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 7478
Posting here because social sciences.

What really determines if someone is racist?
Earlier today i was walking to collect my mail and throw my rubbish in the bin when i passed some black kids a boy and a girl, we smiled and nodded at each other but about half way to the letterbox i felt an unease and immeditly thought that these kids were going to rob me, they didnt, but i cant ignore that thought. Am i racist? would i have thought that if they were white, maybe if they were tatted up white kids who seemed like they had a drug problem.

So what is racism? Was i being a racist?
75 posts and 14 images omitted. Click Reply to view.
George Fottingsire - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:31:10 EST ID:WFGKCTJE No.208262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, you said you wanted to discuss 'race reality' without it turning into a fight. Which means you want to be at a place where no one at all would disagree with you. There's quite a broad space between arguing an opinion different from other posters and being a troll, or don't you know that?
Hugh Denningpotch - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:02:50 EST ID:0mGiprQj No.208279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I don't want to fight = I don't want anyone to disagree with me.
Lol bruh.
Are you saying that disagreement and fighting are hand in hand and that no disagreement can occur peacefully and civilly?
Hugh Denningpotch - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:05:08 EST ID:0mGiprQj No.208280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Let me say this to you, Flicker. If you've got what it takes to discuss race without throwing insults, I'll happily discuss it with you. We can discuss the definitions of the words, the way society feels about these words, genetics, memetics, whatever. I'd like that.
Cedric Clorringspear - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:56 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wouldn't it just be easier to say that everyone is racist?
Wesley Guddlesure - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 04:55:32 EST ID:4FAq+MEK No.208342 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But then how can he fool himself into thinking he's not as censorious and intolerant as the people he's attacking?

jolly african-american by Charlotte Sommerpag - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 17:29:16 EST ID:9uFbRE+4 No.208264 Banned Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
File: 1499030956380.jpg -(23365B / 22.82KB, 220x220) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size. 23365
when will it be socially acceptable for a white person to say jolly african-american? And why is it THAT offensive to begin with? We give the power to words. I get that nowadays we're still relatively fresh out of Jim Crowe and things race relations are still kind of tense but surely eventually there will come a time somewhere down the line where we finally have perfect equality, will the word still be offensive? What about when we all look about the same a thousand years from now, will it still be offensive THEN?

I'm not trying to be edgy here, even though I personally think it's stupid to let sound waves cause so much trauma, I don't say the word around people I know it will offend (at this point mostly everyone). I'm just really curious when it will stop.

Also do you think we'll keep inventing new words to be offended by or will we finally get passed this?
User was banned for this post
User was banned by: Mintzs for 1 days
Reason: No
3 posts omitted. Click Reply to view.
Fuck Croffingson - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:10:21 EST ID:9uFbRE+4 No.208269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We've made progress but it's not like all the damage goes away when you say "ok racisms over guys we did it"
Phineas Guzzlelock - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:31:38 EST ID:WFGKCTJE No.208270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>legal rights enshrined in the code of law in a handful of countries
>>is the same as
>>the totality of all structural, institutional, and personal biases prevalent throughout all cultures globally
Betsy Brenderbug - Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:17:09 EST ID:1kfT+DW9 No.208272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1499433429709.jpg -(9334B / 9.12KB, 326x405) Thumbnail displayed, click image for full size.
>hey guys if you ban guns people will just find another way to kill
>hey guys discrimination is mostly illegal so racism can never happen
Sophie Banderway - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 05:37:58 EST ID:9MuVP7BI No.208319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is my opinion.

Western society should not tolerate or permit reactionary violence.

If you call someone a name and he lays you out he accepts the consequences this might bring. BUT IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY as an individual to own up for his actions and therefore he should be at fault for not showing the restrain that an Asian person would show.

If you called an Asian person a name and he lashed out at you, you would probably tell him to calm down, and if he attacked you, that's the action he decided to take as an individual.

It's so bad because black people are conditioned socially and white civilization is too often in agreement. If a black person is called a word, he MUST use violence, and well, the other guy deserves it.

I understand the history of the word, that's not an excuse for violence, which should be viewed as a disproportionate reaction that has no place in a civilized society.

Have the strength to call him a pussy white boy with a small dick & walk away and if he continues to challenge you, beat him until he learns what respect it - that is proportional, and it's what real men do.
Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 09:01:20 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it is childish to get pissed off over a word and intent is everything.

To me, jolly african-american is basically comparable as big stinky doo-doo head. It is just a word and I'm not going to get pissed off over it. Now if someone is shouting racial slurs and acting they are going to fight then it is a threat. But just using the word isn't bad. I also hate how people are so uptight about racial slurs. It seems to me that they are always quick to say motherfucker, cunt, cock etc without a mere flinch and that isn't "polite" either. So it doesn't make any sense, so humans.

It may be condescending but only little and insecure people get their panties in a bunch over a sound you make with your vocal chords. Pens and swords do a million times more damage.

Pages Next>>
0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
Report Post
Please be descriptive with report notes,
this helps staff resolve issues quicker.