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Solipsism by Caroline Goodson - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:34:02 EST ID:xc7CY0zb No.208563 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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  1. I cannot prove anything beyond Solipsism.
  2. God and other beings are akin to chatroom bots.
  3. The Demiurgebot simulating this reality for me has introduced the concept of "heaven".
  4. By simply believing in Heaven I can go there.

As soon as I finished coming up with this I heard "Highway to Hell" on the radio.
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William Covingtodge - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:46:37 EST ID:WKSqWfwB No.208603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I see your Animism and I raise you one Panentheism.
Fucking Docklenene - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:58:27 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ok, I really would like to point out here that God, can be both the entirety of Reality and outside of It at the same time, God, as a truly infinite and omniscient Being, The ALL, if you will, can be as Paradoxical as It wants. There is literally no reason reality has to follow any sets of rules, it probably does for the sake of "clarity" within us, the subroutines of the Godhead, which God is playing the exploration of infinity through, and for elegance, beauty, etc. Though a truly trained eye can see beauty and elegance in chaos.

I just choose animism after the fact as my go to spirituality because everything deserves to be loved.
Betsy Drocklewat - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:39:31 EST ID:IdF5339U No.208605 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yahoo doray yahoo doray welcome christmas something something
Phineas Pittshaw - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:51:30 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The trick here isn't to confuse love with feel-good, always-positive outlooks which can be both forced and ho-hum at times. But rather, realize that love can be fast, sharp, blunt, and upending, i.e. tough love, or the kind of brotherly banter that comes with a group of close friends. No need to sing songs about SLAYER 24/7, you can call your best friend a jackass and a retard and still have love in your heart. But you know this already...

That being said, if you are in the right mindset, SLAYER and those regularly ho-hum, feel-good togetherness notions can be quite cathartic.
Martha Pocklemat - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:05:28 EST ID:Vv1yxGNY No.208616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is true, but unfortunately it's a value that isn't really taught anymore. Any kind of criticism of anything is taken as undermining the very essence of that thing itself, whereas past eras understood that constant critique is the only thing that makes anything stronger.

I blame the simplification of the psyche brought about by mass media, abetted by corporatism. Honestly, the purest, strongest, most noble kind of love is the kind of love that is willing to make the other person hate you if it makes them better, but very few are selfless enough to practice that anymore.

Compassion by Alice Pimmledale - Wed, 29 Nov 2017 19:54:41 EST ID:f7VKYGuq No.208552 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Rejecting any and all forms of transgenderism is an act of compassion.

If a person announces they are going to kill themselves, the compassionate action is NOT to allow them to continue. The compassionate action is to prevent them and help them no longer humor that idea. The same for trans individuals. Hormones are a direct assault on one's genetics. That is a slow form a suicide.
Mental illness is to be treated and compassionately guided.
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Emma Chablingnetch - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:46:07 EST ID:cuUQCBtm No.208608 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You basically repeated my post in more words. Yes, making someone king would inconvenience more people. That was an absurd proposition meant to illustrate the absurd point that you seem to take seriously, that just because someone says they're convinced they're something, then we fulfill their pretense, as long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone other than themselves.

This is a way of dealing with mental illness that completely ignores cases in which the symptoms have apparently nothing to do with the root cause. Maybe the person believing to be another gender is just uneasy with themselves due to some kind of trauma, and they blame it on their genitals to escape from the trauma, because that's what you do when you have trauma, you point the finger at anything but the truth. If you were able to easily face it, it wouldn't be trauma. Hell, some people would cut their dick off if it meant not having to face it, you get what I mean? And who knows, maybe it works, maybe by becoming transgender and pumping yourself full of hormones forever you have such a radical life experience that you've created a permanent chemically induced buffer to trauma.. But what if you don't? What if one day the root of the unease you had disappears because of some experience and all you're left with is a permanent solution to a problem you thought was permanent but wasn't?

Weren't psychology and psychiatry meant to free yourselves from your past, to give you the means to transcend yourself, rather than making you shut up about your problems?

>It's like saying 'all mechanics want to do is do whatever fixes the car fastest and gets the customer out the door' well, what would you expect?:

Say that a customer goes to the mechanic not because the car isn't working but because there's a flashing red light and they don't know what it's for. I don't know about cars, so let's say it's a sign pointing not to a drastic problem, but to something that will eventually get worse, in a couple months, if you keep ignoring it. The mechanic knows it, the customer knows nothing. In such a situation, the mechanic could easily spout some nonsense…
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Angus Genderforth - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 08:49:41 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Goddamn it you fucking the future immigrant cunt, if you don't fucking accept you lost the argument fuck off, we don't want your fucking retarded circlejerk cancer here. Fuck off and crawl back to your Trumpian stormfront safespace you fucking cocksucking sissy faggot.
Simon Dindleset - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 08:42:12 EST ID:IdF5339U No.208610 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lol wow
Alice Grimville - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 14:22:12 EST ID:4+oWREai No.208614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Be easy on the guy. It seems more likely that he's struggling to understand than being some agitator for the heck of it.
Martha Pocklemat - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:02:01 EST ID:Vv1yxGNY No.208615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, I think he's arguing in bad faith, since he just told me my post said the exact opposite of what it was trying to say. He keeps hiding inside ontologically unknowable things like 'well when you heal a trauma what if you're only like, *seeming* to fix the trauma, man?' and so I'm incredulous his argument is serious or in good faith, which is why I stopped answering. This whole thread is garbage though, everyone should die.

Schools turned into psychic-wards by Childfree 4life - Fri, 28 Jul 2017 05:24:38 EST ID:wN9L5jv0 No.208300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What the fuck is wrong with children at schools nowadays?!

It turned really to the worse!

Learned it the hard way during an internship:

Children don't learn any essential behavioral patterns anymore. 90% are getting their educational input by some arsehole youtuber and the parents just don't care.

So the teacher has too often the role of educating these hellspawns in basic social-skills!

Too often I hear stupid parents say shit like "we were bad in school too! We did also pull pranks and were disrespectfull" (best if done in hearing-range of their hellspawn!)

but I dare you to visit a regular school or Campus these days: There is a difference between smoking in secret at the restrooms or attacking teachers with scissors (and beeing a disrespectful cunt in general)
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Fuck Diffingridge - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:21:45 EST ID:oX3f4KlI No.208536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I believe parents would complain if their aggressive child got a syringe full of Thorazine

Not these days. These days parents are all too happy to dose their 'autistic' (aggressive) kids with risperidone even if they grow tits in the process.
Nicholas Settingfoot - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:24:06 EST ID:YzWsRZXQ No.208599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
<spoiler>It's not ethical to generalize an entire generation based on the perception of one group of individuals</spoiler>
Jarvis Cravinglick - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:36:27 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The best part is when American students go study abroad and their entire understanding of the Cold War and the Vietnam war gets turned upside down because in Europe we don't have blatant propaganda in our history books.
Charles Wanninghall - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 13:02:55 EST ID:RF6hola9 No.208612 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What if its 51% if the total population? Or Higher? At what point is it safe to make a generalization for an entire group based on a majority percentage?
Cyril Sebberwell - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 20:40:58 EST ID:8fJL5KPf No.208613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My sister is a teacher and she says that they're not allowed to take the children's cell phones from them and they're not allowed to punish them in any way. It's a fucking joke.

CONTINENTAL THREAD by Edwin Shittingfuck - Sun, 08 May 2016 18:34:16 EST ID:Ia1kuS46 No.205911 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Whatcha reading /pss/?

Currently reading Being and Time and enjoying Heidegger's take on death. Particularly anxiety as revealing "the possibility of impossibility." Nice fat phrase to chew on and mull over.

Anyone reading Levinas or Blanchot at the moment?
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Jarvis Brookbury - Fri, 08 Jul 2016 21:39:05 EST ID:h82HgvHl No.206295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not philosophy, but I'm reading a bibliography on Franz J. Haydn. He was a cool guy.
Bombastus Werrywag - Mon, 18 Dec 2017 02:55:58 EST ID:zcJg5i2s No.208568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wow this thread is old
Frederick Docklefuck - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 22:15:19 EST ID:vwIDntc2 No.208593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love how this has been up for over half a year already despite this being a SFW board. Just proves there's basically no moderation whatsoever on this board.
Nicholas Settingfoot - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 19:38:53 EST ID:YzWsRZXQ No.208598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently reading The Center of the Cyclone by John C. Lily and a book about the use of Eastern philosophy in psychotherapy. I forgot who it's by. I left the book at home.
Jack Penningfick - Wed, 17 Jan 2018 11:51:38 EST ID:YInCfjsg No.208611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This book about Pyrrhonism.

Country Portfolios....Canada and U.S.A. by Kim Jong-fun - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 09:40:31 EST ID:TriMJvI1 No.208602 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The world's second largest country by surface but relatively small in terms of population, Canada punches above its weight in economic terms.

A federation of former British colonies, Canada follows the British pattern of parliamentary democracy, and the UK monarch is head of state. Ties with the US are now vital, especially in terms of trade, but Canada often goes its own way.

Both English and French enjoy official status, and mainly French-speaking Quebec - where pressure for full sovereignty has abated in recent years - has wide-ranging cultural autonomy. Indigenous peoples make up around 4% of the population.

Canada is one of world's top trading nations - and one of its richest. Alongside a dominant service sector, Canada also has vast oil reserves and is a major exporter of energy, food and minerals.


The USA is the world's foremost economic and military power, with global interests and an unmatched global reach.

America's gross domestic product accounts for close to a quarter of the world total, and its military budget is reckoned to be almost as much as the rest of the world's defence spending put together.

The country is also a major source of entertainment: American TV, Hollywood films, jazz, blues, rock and rap music are primary ingredients in global popular culture.
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Hugh Famblelun - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 11:39:06 EST ID:IdF5339U No.208607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why make a thread about extremely common knowledge on the wrong board that isnt even provocative of any form of discussion?

Racism by Hamilton Soggledene - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 03:12:18 EST ID:KAVbWdaM No.208576 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Simple question. And I am looking for more insight into the line of thinking based on upbringing, and community ideals.

Why is it acceptable to call someone white, or black,l. But is taboo to call someone red or yellow?

Is it as simple as social conditioning? Or does it play a deeper part in the group psychology?
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Nathaniel Gummlepack - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 20:03:35 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And whites aren't white and blacks aren't black, all humans are varying shades of brown. What are YOU on about?
Nathaniel Wimmlelat - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:46:07 EST ID:ZS66X4xy No.208594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please read posts before you get all butthurt over them.
>>aren't accurate to what the entire world's views
In my post I said:
This version of the term dichotomy you describe is specifically a north american issue
Moreover you claim:
>>This is obviously just your personal views
>>You also seem to assume that the only people who's opinions matter are white
Fuck. You. You don't know me man, how dare you tell me what my opinions are?
I was providing historical context for the history of the terms for color, and specifically the way they're used in NA. 'Black' means 'aboriginal' in Australia, but you don't get huffy about that? If you can't hear someone dispassionately describe the history of racism without automatically assuming the person talking about it is racist, you're either incredibly simple minded or a closet racist yourself.
It's obviously not the case that the people to whom these terms were applied opinion doesn't matter. Of course their opinion matters, but it's not germane to the question of the OP, which is why did the terms come to be seen as they are? Answering that question requires us to specify that the use of those english color terms to signify races is nearly a wholly white invention, which makes those terms etic demonyms, so an emic understanding of them is both irrelevant and confusing to comprehending their origin. Ergo, duh Natives had names for white people, but you can guarantee among them wasn't the english word 'white' (unless they were talking to English people.) When used in today's society, sure english speaking people will use white to refer to white people because that's the norm (that white people established) -- but that doesn't change the fact that it doesn't carry the same connotation of offensiveness that red or yellow do, which is again, OPs point. Otherwise, why would there have been the need for invention of different english slurs for whites, like cracker, honky, howlie, etc? Do you see how my post addresses OP's question, while your post just gets huffy and defensive about how that can't be the explanation, and does nothing to pr…
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Simon Sengerchere - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 17:22:36 EST ID:65NWSo4c No.208596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, at least I got you to explain yourself properly. And, you don't need allies in an argument to get to the truth, that will happen either way. Cheers.
Simon Sengerchere - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 17:35:05 EST ID:65NWSo4c No.208597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By the way, this world deserves to be in a better place, a place where you can call someone a "monkey", using the recent H&M example, and instead of being offended that you used a word that has been used derogatorily against people of African descent, you are explosive with joy and reverence of your ape and primate ancestry. A world where "jolly african-american" means "dude" or "guy" again and inspires camamraderie, like it did in the 1800s Old West, or today in ghetto black neighbrohoods and white teenagers use "nigga" alike to mean "friend", instead of one where people use it against someone's descent or assume someone wants to hurt them when they say it. Call me a "word revivalist", but I think we could live in that world, really, one where true freedom is reachable and our collective planetary love powers our souls and spirits to previously unattainable heights. We cannot get there by allowing words power over us, being scared of the past, or banning and trying to get rid of or destroy certain ways of thinking. Think about what I said.
Jarvis Cravinglick - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 08:40:25 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fun fact, I was discussing this with a gay guy at some party and some random guy walked past us and gave the gay guy shit for saying "faggot" within the context of the conversation.
It was just so absurd.

My thought: What did the greats get WRONG? by Sophie Gaddleford - Thu, 28 Sep 2017 04:13:02 EST ID:tKRmy9hF No.208440 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Everyone remembers the greats for what they got right. But what about their follys? I was just about to start googling when I thought this might make a good thread. I'm more of a philosophy fanboy and am not well read. I hope we have some philosophy wizards here who can enlighten everyone about this.

My reasoning, I want these men to be humanized. I want myself and others to be able to see them as men with faults and contradictions and not unapproachable gods.
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William Fundlechore - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:05:02 EST ID:zwKlR0Nw No.208459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Another way to look at those same sets of particulars is that western philosophy became fixated on re-interpreting the philosophy of the classics, and became bound up in shadow-boxing increasingly abstracted transformations of classical philosophy, which had increasingly less to do with what the ancients actually believed and more with interpretations of interpretations, and in that sense we never really progressed out of the shadow of the ancients.

Sure, the ancient Greeks got huge swaths of empirical things inaccurate. Even seemingly impressive things, like Socrates' alleged drawing out of the principles of geometry from a slave are really just cunning bits of linguistic sleight-of-hand. But, on the other hand, philosophy has never been able to conclusively dismiss or get away from certain other points of their philosophy. The model of the world presented in the allegory of the cave/theory of forms is still a useful way to introduce the concepts of ontology and epistemology, and while perhaps they may be unscientific because they are untestable, they are also by extension unable to be disproven.

tl;dr: Yes ancient Greeks were wrong about a lot of things, but they were also eternally right about a lot of stuff, and I dare you to categorically disprove the theory of forms (you can't, it's impossible.)

Yes, you shouldn't get hung up on something or treat it as the end of philosophy when you can't disprove it, there are certainly more things to think about ontology and epistemology beyond the theory of forms, but you can't get rid of it either -- it remains a feature of philosophy to the present, whereas many ancient ideas are now definitively useless.
Fuck Diffingridge - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:19:59 EST ID:oX3f4KlI No.208535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Plato took the math stuff even further and believed that since reality was mathematically defined, and aesthetically pleasing mathematics lead to an absolute truth observation was meaningless and all truths could be arrived at through mathematical calculations.

Modern mathematicians do the same thing more or less. They call it soft platonism, all the numbers without any of the fiddly interpretations of Good and the One. The one difference between Plato and they is Gödel.
Jenny Draddledale - Sun, 24 Dec 2017 23:46:00 EST ID:hGJqk5Sv No.208571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That guy's pretty cool imho
Lydia Trotbanks - Sat, 30 Dec 2017 22:16:30 EST ID:PwzxhROR No.208580 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Where does Plato say the 'forms' can be mathematically defined? Is there a source for this? Because if so, then the people who should rule the 'polis' are not philosophers (those who are best at perceiving or gaining some 'Truth'), but instead, mathematicians. A field of study I don't think the greeks even considered as existing in 500BC
Priscilla Bashfoot - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:01:52 EST ID:XUUNgMgt No.208582 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Modern mathematicians that have a naive knowledge of philosophy. Once you begin learning about logic and foundations, you encounter many non standard models of arithmetic. The easy way to think of it is a mathematical multiverse in the same way people talk of the possibility of physical multiverses. Why are the physical laws what they are? Similarly, one could ask why is this what the natural numbers are if there are other things that match its description and structure?

Statements in mathematics should only be considered as true when this claim is restricted to a single mathematical structure. There are many different mathematical structures with different properties, and no one of them has any inherent claim to be the "real" mathematical universe. There are claimants to the title of mathematical universe, for instance the class of all sets V, but it can always be expanded and doesn't contain all objects encountered in mathematics.

If we have no conception of what the real mathematical universe is, what can we say about what is out there?

Meditation by Phoebe Goodforth - Tue, 19 Jan 2016 10:45:31 EST ID:/XQxUE3u No.204775 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys I'm just starting to learn how to meditate. So far I can go up to 3 minutes and after that I can't focus any longer. But, I'd say I'm starting off good.

How many of you here meditate on a daily basis? In what way does it help you? What is your favorite type of meditation?

I'm learning sleep meditation and zen. I want to broaden my horizons and love myself again. With this meditation I hope to achieve a higher level of being and be able to like myself and have a positive outlook on life.
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Jack Trotfield - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 16:51:11 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nell Honeyfoot - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 15:01:04 EST ID:2Xf6CogU No.208408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's been a year and a half since I took up meditation. I feel like a whole different person now. No, i am a different person now. The old me was weak and insecure. Through meditation I have learned many things about myself and life itself. I see the world differently since I started doing this. I feel so grounded and happier. People have noticed that I'm doing good for myself and that I have changed. That's awesome in my book.

Hedda Fanbury - Tue, 29 Aug 2017 19:16:09 EST ID:hAlFpoKZ No.208411 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lmao tell that to the 10th dan of most martial arts organizations who can fuck your shit up with only a finger or two while smiling and teasing you and lecturing a whole class on how he is fucking your shit up
Oliver Billyway - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 22:21:49 EST ID:w9KFVcbk No.208453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha. Thats what MEDICATION is for you crazy motherfucker. nb
Emma Huvingkun - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 16:51:30 EST ID:KVMLOWd9 No.208558 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm 28 and I'm beyond prepared for the afterlife. I've been in constant communion with the logos for years. I don't have the will to help others in such a way because if they cared they'd have began the effort already. This is a personal journey of self discovery through life and death.

humor me please on what you would do to help someone by amatuerhour - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 09:03:52 EST ID:Pl+UfWe9 No.208521 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Paradox of logic and spirituality and the dichotomy of self

He's on a path that cant be reversed and we can't force a river to bend, it has to flow to its natural whims. As this
cycle he has is about to end, we have to find the catalyst that hold together his psyche in an unhealthy manner. This is his defense mechanism of equal parts dismissive and destructive, meaning when he feels threatened he tries to defuse and disassociate the meaning of the consequences of his actions that is conditioning him in a negative way.

This defensive mechanism is the thing that has tricked him that he can survive like this, in perpetual self-destruction
affecting the people around him. The pain of losing what HE think he has lost and the loves and passions associated is
what is keeping him from the final catharsis and becoming his true self. Cody is in a sense reversed his negative and positive selves(which are in every way equal, one and the same and also the greater sum of their parts as a whole) to their positions.

I picture codys energy and form that is as inverted being yet thats is just as much as cody as the all badass parts of
cody, because his natural instinct (again this is all an initial summation) is to protect the things and emotions and passions he values the most. Like a black hole or as an abyss I described earlier or a living organism of emotion that has form and is formless. This energy around him that is controlling his actions to accept the wrong kind of energy
that festers and feds this almost parasite that rejects everything and everyone

Its appearent this feeling/form/energy has become more and more tangible in a sense that it has spread to you guys
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Cyril Bivinghare - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:17:29 EST ID:Sm7nPCsL No.208560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think you are thinking the correct way but not necessarily the correct thoughts, because you sound like you are on to something, but I don't know who cody is.
Jenny Draddledale - Mon, 25 Dec 2017 00:24:43 EST ID:hGJqk5Sv No.208572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cody wants to lick your booty hole

What is even evil? by Molly Fonkinspear - Wed, 27 Sep 2017 17:54:17 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.208438 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So there's this discussion I've been having on /b/ about belief, and it naturally evolved to banter about the nature of evil.

So I'm pretty much a relativist, because firstly I think humanity embodies both sides of the dichotomy as a fact of nature i.e. how we're made and how we perceive the world, and secondly because I believe there's no meaning beyond what humans the ones humans apply to the universe.

Yet I do find myself agreeing to being on the "good" side.

Why is this?
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Molly Blillerhog - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:11:09 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.208497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You may have a point with virtue I think. It's close to my own way of seeing reality. I don't apply some moral derivative of the divine to my actions, yet I do agree with a lot of religious morals of religious preachers, like Jesus, simply because what they essentially talk about is these human ideals which are usually something we all want to strive for. We all want to become better people than what we actually are, no?

But then what makes a virtue?
Nathaniel Clublingworth - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 11:27:38 EST ID:pf1/qTT/ No.208498 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's actually mostly because of slavery. Which is pretty meaningless, for the slave.
Martin Clagglebury - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 15:04:56 EST ID:/iCKvJxT No.208541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First, establish what is commonly accepted as "good" and "evil".
The most popular human forms of evil have been established throughout the ages.
Murder, rape, thievery, lying, wrath, and hatred.
The most popular forms of good have also been established.
Charity, honor, truth, kindness, modesty and love.
These are highly prototypical expressions of what "good" and "evil" are.
Now the question, why do you believe yourself to be on the "good side"?
Is good and evil something we are born with? Something inherent in a soul? If a soul is a real thing?
Or are we products of environment? Would you be the same person if you were born and raised in a slum like downtown detroit? Would you be the same if you were raised by only one of your parents?
If an african american man was born in a nice suburb, would he still sell crack? #roasted
And how much does culture affect? Do the movies and stories you were told as a child and even now affect your perception, affect your morals? And when you finally do realize that your set of beliefs are manufactured by external stimuli, you will see yourself as nothing more than a collection of experiences and impulse responses, knee jerks that tweak your perceptions and affect how you understand and respond to future experiences. Seeing beyond the veil of subjectivity you discover that no objective truth is observable and that you are the ultimate judge of reality.
Enter the wild, wild, west. A cowboy riding a horse, a gun on his hip. He has written and signed his own constitution, of what is just, just for him. What is right and what is wrong when he stick his gun in your mouth? Will you die for a philosophy? As far as the cowboy sees its survival of the quickest..
So why are you "good"? Because life has been good to you? Because your life has shown you goodness so it exists within you? You obviously didn't make the choice to be good on a basis of logical axioms or you wouldn't asking why your good..And when you see through your own bullshit perhaps then you will discover what you really are. Nosce te ipsum.
Cedric Beggleshit - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 21:15:18 EST ID:NMygqr00 No.208561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hard relativism assumes that all moral values are relative... you answered your own question
Betsy Brookbury - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 16:24:39 EST ID:Sm7nPCsL No.208562 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Is then the notion that morals should be relative, is that notion relative? Is absolute morality permissible in relative morality?

Should i feel guilty for hating homophobes? by Eliza Gemmerwell - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 07:26:05 EST ID:qJ30WOYM No.208540 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I live in Australia and we found out on wednesday that Homophobes are now in the minority in Australia. Should i feel guilty for hating them? because they are a minority i am legitimately confused on how i should feel toward them.
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Alice Brookridge - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:00:43 EST ID:5ANwUosA No.208547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>Jesus had...a out of earth God.
Are you implying The Christ merely possessed divinity rather than being divine? Heresy punishable by death.
>> In no way where they in a relationship with each other.
Are you saying that God didn't love Joseph in an intimate, personal, divine relationship? Further damnable heresy bucko. Get the pitchforks!

Easily trolled reactionary is easily trolled. Sad.
Fuck Nicklefield - Sat, 25 Nov 2017 16:23:02 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.208548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well honestly Joseph was a mere adoptive father.
The bible is clear that God is Jesus' one and only father.

If anything this makes Joseph the biggest stallion in religion.
Reuben Dibblechere - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:11:41 EST ID:z/FiZpQC No.208549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hate is too much. There is no need to hate them.

But there is no need to sympathize with them, either. Fuck em.
Basil Pittbury - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 15:03:29 EST ID:1kfT+DW9 No.208550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been struggling with where the line is drawn, I use to believe that people are fundamentally good and society has a place for everyone.

This last year + has really changed how I view my fellow man. I was a pacifist for well over a decade and now I see that as completely naive.

If you're a bigot or anti-worker the least I can do is hate you.
Martha Ponkinfitch - Tue, 28 Nov 2017 18:24:12 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.208551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>If you're a bigot or anti-worker the least I can do is hate you.

Dude just chill. We're all imperfect humans.

Hate is such a powerful thing. Disagree, deny, resist or revolt sure. Hate though, nah dude that is for lesser men.

>This last year + has really changed how I view my fellow man. I was a pacifist for well over a decade and now I see that as completely naive.

Take care not to flip entirely. A lot of people with strong opinions tend to do this, maybe because having strong opinions is more integral to them than having the "correct" opinions.
Just chill, remember this Earth is at first man vs man, not idea vs. idea.
If you don't accept the world as-is, a complicated mess of a place hell even in your personal life, you gonna have a hard and bad time.

transphobia by Isabella Danningstick - Thu, 27 Jul 2017 12:48:12 EST ID:D27gVweR No.208297 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why is there so much more visceral hatred of trans people than gay or bi people? I've noticed this for a while but comment sections of recent news articles really brought it to light. I keep seeing over and over again people saying stuff like "I don't mind gays but trans people are mentally ill blahblah SJWs something something free speech" and people making a million "logical" excuses as to why trans people shouldn't have certain rights that don't really make sense and do nothing to really hide their irrational contempt but why is that really? Is it just because trans people are more noticeable? Less physically appealing generally to most people? "Icky"? I feel like anti-SJW crusaders have made this the hill they want to die on and it doesn't make a lot of sense considering the amount of trans people in their own community is vastly higher than average.

Also while I don't think it matters to save us some posts on this incredibly slow board I'm neither trans nor gay and I don't really get on the liberal outrage train very often I'm just a mostly neutral, vaguely left-leaning party.
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Jack Tootwater - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:20:44 EST ID:4+oWREai No.208528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I meant "they'll work it out among themselves". And of course I mean in your local area, not the world. If everyone took care of their own little place like that, these things would happen less.

You didn't outright say it but the logic leads down to it. When we leave it to people to handle it, many times we find it's never handled. If anything, they band together to make sure they exclude groups of people.

What do you do when you are a black man or gay man living in a time and place that completely excludes you, and everyone there is against you? What do you do when you have no one to help you?

It's nice to think that society would just handle it, but it doesn't work this way. It just ensures groups of people remain second class.

It'll happen far less to none if it's enforced. No black man should ever run into a situation where he is barred from stepping foot into a public domain. Like I said before, we aren't going to wait around for you guys to take care of it because many times, they WILL take care of it. Just not in an inclusive way.

>nd from the government's point of view, we have laws because they enjoy the power and status they get from being the ones enforcing them, either directly (cops), or by making decisions (judges, lawyers, etc).

The government is an extension of the peoples will. Getting together to try to figure out everything from what type of roads we should have, to what you can and cannot have on your front lawn, to what should be done if one person scams another.
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Jack Tootwater - Sat, 11 Nov 2017 18:45:59 EST ID:4+oWREai No.208529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Group A wants to include blacks, Jews, Christians, Hindus, Gays, Trans, seniors, women, whites, asians, et al

Group B wants only to include white people, and let most of the influence fall to men of that singular group.

Group A is protecting their view of society

Group B wants to eliminate all but their race from their society.

Which one is superior, and how do you think Group A will react to Group Bs demands? Which one is more inclusive?

Which one is worth protecting and dying for?
Nathaniel Fogglepet - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:39:40 EST ID:yZAkBhxT No.208531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>And yet, you're holding it?
No, I'm not. I keep claiming 'A and B are different things.' You keep reiterating that 'A and A are the same thing!' without any new argument for why what I'm calling B is actually A. Until you come up with an actual response rather than reiterating your same claim, I have nothing further to say to you.
Nathaniel Fogglepet - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:41:29 EST ID:yZAkBhxT No.208532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To be clear, I'm referring to A and B as arbitrary variables, nothing to do with >>208529 's use of 'Group A & B.' nb
Martin Wadgebanks - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 13:39:23 EST ID:F9/5mVqX No.208538 Ignore Report Quick Reply

"include" in what exactly?

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