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Trans and Homophobia in Black Culture by Fanny Bungershit - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 11:24:03 EST ID:KAjNPewV No.208321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homophobia_in_ethnic_minority_communities

Recently, a black comedian made public statements claiming he would physically assault a woman if he "found out it was a guy". An article was posted in a FB group about the incident, so I asked if he had tried to use his blackness as an excuse for his transphobia. I caught lots of shit for being a racist but it's a known fact that homophobia and transphobia are prevalent in ethnic minority cultures, even in the U.S. Why is it okay for minorities to be homophobic and why can't anyone call attention to this problem without being called racist?
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Doris Sucklefeck - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 12:35:21 EST ID:PRZEuW/2 No.208322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208321
because thanks to pc/victim culture that has been championed by hand-wringing knee-jerk reactionaries, you're not allowed to criticise minorities with legitimate concerns anymore. and you were all warned about this, but those who chose to speak up about it were called things with -ist and -phobic suffixes. nice to know that people like us were right though.

the phrase, "you've made your bed, now lay in it" comes to mind...
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Jenny Mucklenuck - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:04:57 EST ID:6rrTuWfz No.208323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You literally only heard about this because he was called out on it. Stop with the fake outrage.
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Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:11:39 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/pss/ is turning into /pol/.

I also don't think black people are afraid of gays or trannies so phobia doesn't make sense.

Additionally, I think there is a higher prevalence in black for homosexuality. I could be wrong on that but I think there are studies claiming somewhere around 7-10% of black males exhibiting homosexual traits or at the least bisexual tendencies. Again, I don't have that(those) study though. There is also a significantly higher likelihood for American blacks to be impoverished and or poor. Poverty is well known to be linked to herd mentality and bigoted tendencies. Along with hyperbolic ideas on what people should or shouldn't be. It doesn't take long to be around poor people to see that they all think people should be this or that and that they are very opinionated. Poor males will almost always think in terms of masculinity and other such shit. Being gay is for weak faggots etc. So homosexuality is persecuted in poor, black, males. Just as homosexuality is downtrodden by poor, white, males. The key here being poor and male obviously.


>Speaking from personal experience, there seem to be more gay black males but only slightly and don't even make gay jokes around black men who are from the ghetto or very poor. They get up in arms over anything homosex for whatever reason. "Thou Doth Protest Too Much" perhaps?

I guess it is a generalization or stereotype but poor people seem to have the biggest issue with homosexuality, just like poor people are more likely to be stupid, have a ton of kids, commit crimes, end up in prison, do drugs, be an addict, and be religious. I'm sure that will piss plenty of people off. Who are likely poor. Race doesn't really seem to matter as much aside from perhaps a potential higher rate of homosexuality in blacks.
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Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 14:21:28 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Double post, kill me now amirite?

I dunno about where you live but if black people say faggot or chastise gays, they get the same level of punishment as white people or anyone else. At least in places where it matters. I don't rail on any comedian for anything unless they are unfunny. No jokes should be barred. It is comedy, I don't take anything a comedian says as rule of law or seriously. They are just trying to make you laugh. People who get pissed over a joke or a comedian are not people I associate with regardless.

Among friends, informal situation, etc nobody gets "punished" for homosexual slurs or "hate speech." Even if it gets posted online, only high profile people get shat on. Regular 9-5 black people, white people, etc aren't going to get punished by society for saying faggot or whatever. In the workplace, it is the same story for everyone, termination. In school it is the same story for everyone, expulsion. In public office, it is the same story for everyone, removed.

This whole double standard shit is retarded. Nobody gets preferential treatment anymore unless you have an army of lawyers to cover your ass. A rich black person can call white people the devil and his army of lawyers will cover him. A rich white person can scream niggers into a megaphone from a skyscraper and his army of lawyers will cover him. This is all such a joke and bread and circus for stupid people. The US and the world have much greater issues than the current level of racism/hatespeech/whatever we have. The (bigotry issues) has been quelled enough now that other fires need to be put out.

>But retards love an Us vs. Them riot.
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Matilda Senderhutch - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 08:24:59 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Black people tend to be kneedeep in the retarded Jesus Christ desert demon worshipping death cult bullshit. You know, that idiotic religion imported from Judea.

Religion ruins everything. Save the planet. Kill Christians. 666 speed metal for lyfe /thread


Racism by Rebecca Greenwill - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:52:29 EST ID:RJGzRrNh No.207576 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Posting here because social sciences.

What really determines if someone is racist?
Earlier today i was walking to collect my mail and throw my rubbish in the bin when i passed some black kids a boy and a girl, we smiled and nodded at each other but about half way to the letterbox i felt an unease and immeditly thought that these kids were going to rob me, they didnt, but i cant ignore that thought. Am i racist? would i have thought that if they were white, maybe if they were tatted up white kids who seemed like they had a drug problem.

So what is racism? Was i being a racist?
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George Fottingsire - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 17:31:10 EST ID:WFGKCTJE No.208262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208258
No, you said you wanted to discuss 'race reality' without it turning into a fight. Which means you want to be at a place where no one at all would disagree with you. There's quite a broad space between arguing an opinion different from other posters and being a troll, or don't you know that?
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Hugh Denningpotch - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:02:50 EST ID:0mGiprQj No.208279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208262
> I don't want to fight = I don't want anyone to disagree with me.
Lol bruh.
Are you saying that disagreement and fighting are hand in hand and that no disagreement can occur peacefully and civilly?
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Hugh Denningpotch - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 12:05:08 EST ID:0mGiprQj No.208280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208260
Let me say this to you, Flicker. If you've got what it takes to discuss race without throwing insults, I'll happily discuss it with you. We can discuss the definitions of the words, the way society feels about these words, genetics, memetics, whatever. I'd like that.
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Cedric Clorringspear - Thu, 03 Aug 2017 17:35:56 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207579
Wouldn't it just be easier to say that everyone is racist?
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Wesley Guddlesure - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 04:55:32 EST ID:4FAq+MEK No.208342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208327

But then how can he fool himself into thinking he's not as censorious and intolerant as the people he's attacking?


jolly african-american by Charlotte Sommerpag - Sun, 02 Jul 2017 17:29:16 EST ID:9uFbRE+4 No.208264 Banned Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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when will it be socially acceptable for a white person to say jolly african-american? And why is it THAT offensive to begin with? We give the power to words. I get that nowadays we're still relatively fresh out of Jim Crowe and things race relations are still kind of tense but surely eventually there will come a time somewhere down the line where we finally have perfect equality, will the word still be offensive? What about when we all look about the same a thousand years from now, will it still be offensive THEN?

I'm not trying to be edgy here, even though I personally think it's stupid to let sound waves cause so much trauma, I don't say the word around people I know it will offend (at this point mostly everyone). I'm just really curious when it will stop.

Also do you think we'll keep inventing new words to be offended by or will we finally get passed this?
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Fuck Croffingson - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:10:21 EST ID:9uFbRE+4 No.208269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208268
We've made progress but it's not like all the damage goes away when you say "ok racisms over guys we did it"
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Phineas Guzzlelock - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 13:31:38 EST ID:WFGKCTJE No.208270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208268
>>legal rights enshrined in the code of law in a handful of countries
>>is the same as
>>the totality of all structural, institutional, and personal biases prevalent throughout all cultures globally
No.
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Betsy Brenderbug - Fri, 07 Jul 2017 09:17:09 EST ID:1kfT+DW9 No.208272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>208268
>hey guys if you ban guns people will just find another way to kill
>hey guys discrimination is mostly illegal so racism can never happen
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Sophie Banderway - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 05:37:58 EST ID:9MuVP7BI No.208319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is my opinion.

Western society should not tolerate or permit reactionary violence.

If you call someone a name and he lays you out he accepts the consequences this might bring. BUT IT'S HIS RESPONSIBILITY as an individual to own up for his actions and therefore he should be at fault for not showing the restrain that an Asian person would show.

If you called an Asian person a name and he lashed out at you, you would probably tell him to calm down, and if he attacked you, that's the action he decided to take as an individual.

It's so bad because black people are conditioned socially and white civilization is too often in agreement. If a black person is called a word, he MUST use violence, and well, the other guy deserves it.

I understand the history of the word, that's not an excuse for violence, which should be viewed as a disproportionate reaction that has no place in a civilized society.

Have the strength to call him a pussy white boy with a small dick & walk away and if he continues to challenge you, beat him until he learns what respect it - that is proportional, and it's what real men do.
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Angus Wizzlemidge - Wed, 02 Aug 2017 09:01:20 EST ID:CQFMNQ4/ No.208320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it is childish to get pissed off over a word and intent is everything.

To me, jolly african-american is basically comparable as big stinky doo-doo head. It is just a word and I'm not going to get pissed off over it. Now if someone is shouting racial slurs and acting they are going to fight then it is a threat. But just using the word isn't bad. I also hate how people are so uptight about racial slurs. It seems to me that they are always quick to say motherfucker, cunt, cock etc without a mere flinch and that isn't "polite" either. So it doesn't make any sense, so humans.

It may be condescending but only little and insecure people get their panties in a bunch over a sound you make with your vocal chords. Pens and swords do a million times more damage.


how do i study ethics of AI by Albert Pullywill - Thu, 04 May 2017 22:37:43 EST ID:pvzTt7LE No.208110 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What academic discipline would things like Ethics of artificial intelligence, internet privacy, the implications and possibly negative societal consequences of having free, uncontrolled information via the internet fall under?

I've been reading about the history of the internet, books on psychology and internet addiction and how people are getting fucked up in the head from too much twitter and 4chinz. It's super fascinating, especially with everyone shitting their pants about "fake news", but i have no direction with how to formally study this shit.

Public Policy? Grad school for philosophy? Law? how do i study tech ethics in school
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Doris Donningkick - Fri, 12 May 2017 20:09:08 EST ID:YJnEert2 No.208140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This whole site discusses a lot of these subjects. A lot of smart cookies here.

Also link on the study on the future?
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Doris Donningkick - Fri, 12 May 2017 20:09:45 EST ID:YJnEert2 No.208141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208140
Study on the future I meant, not future
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Doris Donningkick - Fri, 12 May 2017 20:10:27 EST ID:YJnEert2 No.208142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208141
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Doris Drumblechid - Fri, 12 May 2017 22:30:49 EST ID:2q4ig4PV No.208143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here's a good resource for casual study and this essay seems legit: https://www.academia.edu/2473509/Crucial_Considerations_Essays_on_the_Ethics_of_Emerging_Technologies
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Oliver Piddlewure - Tue, 01 Aug 2017 19:14:42 EST ID:PRZEuW/2 No.208317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208110
this is a pretty good paper

https://arxiv.org/abs/1605.02817


I smell chaos all over the damn place by Esther Cundleville - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 08:59:34 EST ID:Sm7nPCsL No.208243 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What would happen if the world changes faster than people, and can that happen indefinitely?

In the Nordic countries, the amount of children going through a sex change is increasing every year. This is all good or not depending on what you think but the undeniable thing is that this is a big change taking place. Maybe just one of many examples of big change. What i fear is that the current social order and history has lead humanity to a certain point, it's a world where culture can't keep up with all the changes yet at the same time there is no alternative to this obsolete culture.

It's like because our reality is different, we become different but we don't even have time to adjust.
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Ernest Singerpork - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 00:01:20 EST ID:kAzZP0bJ No.208292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208290
>calm down
calm down? on the version of /pol/ where everybody thinks the're a philosopher? HAH!
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Jack Crablingbid - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 07:11:26 EST ID:QpaoOR2q No.208293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208292
calm down in a thread with an op hysteric about children changing sex.
I just did a quick google search btw, and found out children can change their gender by filling out a form. Before that you had to actually undergo surgery for a sex change to be recognised.
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Augustus Monnerhat - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 08:06:14 EST ID:Sm7nPCsL No.208294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208292

The irony is that i simply mentioned ts children, proves how sensitive the issue is.
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Isabella Sonningfuck - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 09:44:22 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208290
>You two need to calm down.

Says the fag crying about shit no one cares.
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James Crappersutch - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:52:00 EST ID:Sm7nPCsL No.208296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>208295

I don't know seems like some people had a lot to say in this thread, maybe they can read what it's actually about. So yeah, calm down and suck on a pacifier.


Anger masturbation by Ebenezer Hendlekig - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:56:11 EST ID:9xHHmrI5 No.207907 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It seems like most people these days aren't looking to engage in what is classically considered a "discussion" or even a "debate". People have become so entrenched ideologically that it makes discussion and exchange of ideas all but impossible.

I don't think it's nostalgic to say that the rhetoric of this period is more polarized than it was a 5 years or even a decade ago at least in the context of American politics. When people have a difference of opinion there is no discussion there is only the reinforcement of preconceived notions and the stroking of the anger boner. People have come to enjoy the righteous anger they feel when their lighting up someone who has the "wrong" political opinion.

This sort of thing happened in the past but it was mint everyone doing it to each other all the time. Everything has devolved to the point where it's a nonstop rage masturbation fest on both sides. No one wants to learn, no one wants to admit that they might be wrong, no one wants to actually solve any problems. They just want to be right and someone else be wrong, we've all become addicted to the feeling of being righteously angry at the people we believe are "wrong".
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Cyril Gingerhood - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 16:28:41 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208225
Again, I really don't want to minimize Marx's achievement in any way. But you can't tell me that post-modernism wouldn't exist if Marx hadn't existed, which was my point in saying that in the first place.

Also, to your comment about musicians; yes, if Mozart had never lived, I don't think we would have his symphonies. But, if Euclid never lived, we would still have the laws of geometry more or less as we have them now. One comes wholly from the individual (as an element of course of the artistic movement of their times) while the other is purely a discovery in ideal space which can always be made.

I would suggest that political ideas like Marx's fall somewhere in between these two in the spectrum, where there is a certain 'thereness' which will inevitably be discovered, mixed with the unique qualities of that individual in bringing them to light.
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Nigel Gepperpad - Sat, 10 Jun 2017 04:19:16 EST ID:TXzq2wrO No.208228 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208227
Exactly.

Human ideas and inventions are just like evolutionary features. Doesn't matter which animal evolves the features, they'll show up eventually. And they will keep showing up among multiple species throughout time.

Reality as is enforces that certain thoughts are constructed, and certain inventions are made.
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Sidney Brookway - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 23:03:51 EST ID:w9KFVcbk No.208229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And i thought this was about getting angry and beating off.
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Shit Carryfield - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:52:41 EST ID:jDHD98qF No.208254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207915
>we don't have records of the kind of awful shit people might shout at you in the street in ancient Athens
Just an interesting note; we kind of do have this. Or more accurately, we have some graffiti from Ancient Rome, and it's actually pretty similar to modern day bullshit. Like one example says 'Theophilus, don’t perform oral sex on girls against the city wall like a dog' and If anyone sits here, let him read this first of all: if anyone wants a screw, he should look for Attice; she costs 4 sestertii'. So perhaps you are right, at least in your idea that people then and people now are basically the same then and now.



I wrote an essay a while back saying something similar, in fact. That rather than the tail end of human existence, this is just a new stage of humanity. We're just getting the truth faster and harder than people ever have before. And yes, that sudden new burst of stimuli kinda fucks with your ability to function. We need to get used to dealing with all this new information, learn how to exist with it. Most of human behavior is learned, in fact some very credible scientists think that even emotions may be learned(not that they don't exist, but happy/sad/angry/etc are made up ways to represent thousands of brain states that could be classified differently). It's sorta like we hit (another) puberty as an entire race. Now's that awkward period where we're insufferably and maybe even a bit self-harming as we learn to deal with these new ways of thinking, feeling, and acting.

I mean people thought New York City was coming to an end a while ago. The Economist Thomas Malthus predicted that it'd be buried in horse shit. Because you know, when the main mode of transportation for a major city shits multiple times a day it's only a matter of time before it all builds up. And apparently it was believable because the streets really were filling up with horse shit. But then someone came up with the car, and those worries disappeared. Ingenuity saved the day then, and I don't see any reason why human ingenuity won't likely save the day now. Whether it's in the form of some ridiculously awesome invention, or just people le…
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James Finnerwater - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:47:08 EST ID:3LVcJZJN No.208257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208254
Doesn't it fellate the anger that the demand stays in place while the means falls apart.


Lacan and the Otaku Culture by Ryoichi - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 05:39:00 EST ID:1EiSvWRE No.207959 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Greetings /pss/

I've got an upcoming thesis that requires a Lacanian psychoanals on the Otaku culture, to be specific on the emerging of Online Mobile Games (Mobage) trends. How could they become popular, how could the users willing to spend thousands of kachings on it, and how it become a subculture not only in Japan but also in other countries.

I'm still a noob in Lacan, while I'm also learning it myself, can you help me on where to start or a good route to understand it enough to use it as an analysis tool?

Thanks inb4
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Walter Shakewill - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 09:01:40 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We sure do get a lot of students on this board.
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Beatrice Hammledudge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 12:38:58 EST ID:pGdi6pf4 No.208250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Honestly, if you’re a noob in Lacan you won’t write anything solid in that thesis. Crazy post-modern academia has already “reappropriated” Lacan though and that peculiar combination of subjects makes for a heavy salad too crude for real thought but nuts enough for academic criteria. You might succeed, but even if you do, you wouldn’t get closer to psychoanalysis.

The way to it is to brush off all secondary sources and read basic Freud (The Interpretation of Dreams, Psychopathology of Everyday Life, The Joke and its Relation to the Unconscious, plus I’d say some of the case studies) along with “basic” Lacan, whatever that might be... maybe The Insance of the Letter, maybe the second seminar, or some of the Écrits.

Curiously there are some comments by Lacan on the Japanese language, I believe from the first seminars and maybe some written texts. I don’t remember most of it, but I recall him praising the language’s sensitivity to social hierarchy.
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Walter Clezzledudge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 15:54:09 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lacan proposes that the mirror phase creates an illusion of independence. In freud and even some modern psychology, and even modern views found here and on the news. The it isn't an illusion it is the standard we should judge ourselves by and we are as sufficiently infantile as the imposition of that distorted super ego critique suggests. And our failures to live up to it, our neurosis's are still charted along that development to live up to it. Suggesting the adult world impressed in that distortion of a super imago as existing as it restricts us then.

Lacan suggested that the mirror phase both biologically and linguistically as understood in humans is more like a misunderstanding. You can't see the supporting frames and buttresses that still hold up that independent image from the other side of the mirror, much like you can't see the strings and supports that hold up a puppet or a piece of architecture succesfully couched in space.

this is because of the depths of reflection that give possibilities in self reflection both physical and mental, but the lack of human understanding(crossing over into philosophy) about the "behind-ness" or "underneathness" of human perception or what it takes to authentically be couched in physical space.

lacan is basically propositioning that as humans we are afraid of dependence, so we don't see how dependence and support is neccessary in the self. In the light of the mirror image we think is favored by society.
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Walter Clezzledudge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:15:16 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208251

It about the inability to see that the statement and the self reflection exist in and out of the same state that occurs in an image in film or theatre. When we approach it without suspension we fall prey to anxietys produced by ads and movies and society itself because we don't embrace self reflexive or going into how that is working.

On the otherside we don't realize reality without it, because it's distinct from "the real" because of the idea that to make something "more real" in our concious beliefs about reality we hide our manipulation and editing of it we don't reach reality by caving into the real either.

Embracing how it's being made and the production of what's happening within that construction is like seeing the net and seeing the weaving. essentially ignoring the man behind the curtain, or the very real existence of our heart, intellect, and courage as symbol/ic we don't have reality.
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Walter Clezzledudge - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:30:21 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208252
For the otaku part you might want to fucus on the collection of symbols, in an order with improvisation and contextual logic related to gathering of symbols. These games suggest skill and a pop up wind out, interlocking finding or achievement of symbols. In a ground, as expressed in the actual puzzle board, that is chaotic or in flux in it's logic and constancy. Impulse is attracted and seems to have a part to play on the road to skill, but suffers a critique in the reason it is present in the games. Or in order to get you to pay more money.

It's game is chaotic or flux in it's logic and justification. Suggesting unfairness and pay barriers and traps for a person. But impulse is also achieving justification and making perspective. More literally how you play it will determine interaction.


Duality of good and evil by Isabella Buzzgold - Sun, 07 May 2017 09:26:04 EST ID:K4ulXiPw No.208120 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Lately i've been looking into the physosophy of good and evil,the angelic and the demonic and so on.I am looking for a book that explores the duality of concepts like these,any suggestions
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 09:25:52 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208235
read the comment chain we are responding to now.
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 11:15:08 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208235
in addition, they were both responders to hegel and predisposed with the metaphysics of value. As well as outlining things in world stages, and structuring there philosophy based on the same mechanics of logic in that.

Nietzhce even took the subsuming of tensions in greater and greater stages to self overcoming. While Marx took it a materialist place. Both were obsessed with the master and slave dynamic. And the concept of self recognition.
So on and so on.
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Priscilla Mobberson - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:21:50 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208236
That's my point. The Man with No Name up there >>208162 mentions Marx in a throwaway comment merely comparing the story of Nietzsche's life to his, and now all of a sudden we're talking about the practical effects of Marxist theory. This is the second thread on the front page that has been derailed from its true topic into discussing Marx merely by someone having mentioned his name. Maybe we need a Marx containment thread?
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:38:49 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208238
no that will only excerbate it. If your intentions are to get less marx threads popping up don't do it. I agree though people have tried to make pss incredibly political. And there basically using marx's status as a philosopher to achieve that.

My take on beyond good in evil, is that Nietzche basically outlined the parts of the creative process and the living independently process that affect or stop us from achieving the experience of the uber or the super. And it's technically the super ego. The voice that berates us with good and bad left and right, whose job it is to give rise to the function of values and soul to make meaning. According to nietzche the advent of morals imprisons man but also makes man and life interesting. With us finding reasons for our pain. This part of the concept of good and bad divides value in to category, and rationale into fixed position for what is good and bad and why you suffer.

This doesn't help you achieve the sublime. or understand the abyss as the pillow that it is. Because you are still being punished for it forever being caste into the negative in the good and evil phase.
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Walter Willyledge - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 17:40:26 EST ID:UgAS1X+C No.208240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208239 the entire thing being historically interesting and good fuel for social commentary. But asphyxiating or trapping for the human mind and soul.

Nietzche believes this is the human being refusing to diversify and expand it's mental diet.


Leftism and the bounds of political correctness by Phoebe Sabberspear - Mon, 29 May 2017 19:41:21 EST ID:esq3c4wi No.208164 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Source:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/29/evergreen-state-college-president-expresses-gratit/

Is there anyone here is who is on the side of the protesters here? I cannot for the life of me conjure a justification for this nonsense
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Nell Hunkinwater - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 03:16:58 EST ID:+XN4QoUK No.208215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208214

>even more passive aggressive smuggery

keep this up and i too will be checking regularly. pure schadenfreude.
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Nell Hunkinwater - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 03:18:26 EST ID:+XN4QoUK No.208216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>stay on topic
>what about bathrooms

fucking lawl
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Polly Gaffingfoot - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 03:32:31 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208216
If you had bothered to respond to my question about bathrooms, I would've explained the connection (which should already be painfully obvious without needing to even state it.) That's called the Socratic method, argumentation in a circle.

>>keep this up and i too will be checking regularly. pure schadenfreude.
Until you start posting like a normal contributing /pss/ poster, with at least *some* degree of thought and pretense at dialectic before going off on shit posting tangents (which is how most posters here operate) you can guarantee I will be up your ass and harassing you every single time you post. You're disrupting the discussion I was hoping to have in this thread, even though I'm not even OP. Obviously we're not going to get that now, but if you learn your lesson, maybe eventually this thread can become not shit again (actually it was always shit, but it took quite a dive with your posts, which is saying something) and hopefully you won't do it to any other threads.
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Nell Hunkinwater - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 04:32:13 EST ID:+XN4QoUK No.208218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208217

spiteful little prick arent you. sad. have this "discussion" you wish to have with yourself, thats really what you wanted to do. talk about going full circle.
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Polly Gaffingfoot - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 04:46:27 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208218
No, I'll have it with
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>>208203
i.e. the other posters who came to this thread to discuss OP, rather than hear you screech.


Concision by Penis Flappingsack - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 22:40:11 EST ID:Sc8Oin8v No.208079 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Following the Anger Masturbation thread's theme of examining how to have better discussions, I'd like to discuss, or at least mention, concision. Often the most thoughtful posts on /pss/ are also some of the longest. I suspect that less people read them because of their length, and I imagine that this issue is worse yet when people are trying to read through a full back-and-forth in a thread. For the vast majority of you who concern yourselves with effective communication, I remind you to edit your posts down for concision when able.
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Martha Forringhood - Thu, 11 May 2017 10:09:46 EST ID:qmIpAjjo No.208132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
schools (in the us and canada at least) unintentionally train kids to inflate their wordcount so they can get essays done easier. Often times the only grading metric is proper grammar/spelling, and word/letter count. I bet that's part of why you get posts like this.
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John Snodshaw - Thu, 11 May 2017 23:59:42 EST ID:8ZoPLUhY No.208136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208132
That's a good point. Rhetoric training should focus more on sentence structure and critical thinking. Grammar should be subject to clarity of ideas expressed.
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Phineas Drorrykane - Mon, 29 May 2017 20:42:59 EST ID:CTxDZjmw No.208166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208130
Translation:
Moving forward is tough. We like to use big words to stop normies from knowing what we're saying. That seems to slow us down though.
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Charlotte Sagglechotch - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 10:55:08 EST ID:tqlhDf06 No.208176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208166
He makes a good point. Look at chemistry, philosophy, or music theory. The use of "big words" in these fields is out of necessity, not pompousness, and this is true for many other fields of study as well. The one real problem with this specialization is, as he points out, that problems arise due to stagnation and inaccuracy when they cut themselves off too much.
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Phineas Nickleson - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 19:59:45 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.208184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thread on concision
Is itself very concise
Parsimony reigns


On The Nature of Evil by The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 02:19:24 EST ID:drDI4Zd2 No.207739 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Evil is something that is misunderstood, because it is something that does not see itself. Evil does not see itself because of the nature of ego… Let us say that there is a man, who passes a homeless person on the street, whom he gives money to. The nature of ego is such that the man does not give the homeless man money because he believes what he is doing is morally righteous, but because he has become addicted to the pleasure received from the concept of doing good.

This phenomenon is both what the ego is, and a state of psychosis which when fully manifested results in a psychopathic personality. It is a feed-back loop of emotion and want which is self-perpetuating. At the route of this phenomenon is the repression of an emotional state so great, that it becomes the defining memory of the individuals’ personality. Usually this state of Psychosis is triggered by the most extreme acts: rape, murder, and torture. Because these acts become what the host ego identifies with, the identifying ego naturally seeks to perpetuate itself through a repetition and justification of these acts. As such a bruised ego comes from an opinion of a thing that contradicts the validity of this reality. This is why if you judge a murderer you will likely be murdered, not because you deserve it, but because the ego of the murderer cannot stand to face what it sees as a contradiction to it’s being. Thus the bad always blames the good for its own nature, and so the good becomes a receptacle of sin for others.

Because society represses what is seen as immoral, and it is these immoral acts that define the personality of psychotics, the psychopath cannot truly be who they are in regular society, and therefore must seek out the experiences which they believe define them.

But this leaves the question to be answered as how to and why a person would identify him/herself with things that are considered emotionally negative in the first place. The answer to this is simple, that psychosis is a defense mechanism, which reverses a negative situation into a positive one so that the individual does not go insane. A murderer gains pleasure from a murder in order to protect ones sanity, a rapist identifies himself with rape and so rapes, a rape victim snaps and enjoys the experience so she does not loose her mind, a torture victim becomes masochistic, while the torturer becomes sadistic.

As a result of this process one observes that the psychotic personality consists of multiple levels of ego that exist in denial of each other, but are used by the emotional feedback loop of seeking an identity, to justify the foundational experience of the psychosis. Because the layers of ego that are not of the foundational reality contradict said reality, they cannot exists along side it, and so the psychotic can truly deny their foundation, and believe that they deny it, yet do everything they can to reenact the foundational experience.

In other words, the psychotic is stuck in a loop of self-justification used to perpetuate something so negative it has become a positive and foundational aspect of the hosts’ psychology.

To all those who do not suffer yet do, I am real. Your medicine is on its way. The self-justification you have been seeking is at hand, for I will never give up until we understand each other, when you are no longer judged, and the cycle of violence will end. I forgive you.

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Hedda Buzzfuck - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:20:27 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.207745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207744
Thnx m8.
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Nicholas Pockdale - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 22:18:35 EST ID:7xOxbFjC No.207746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207739
Lord of the flies
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Betsy Begglemork - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 05:38:15 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.207849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
continue your series on morality and pleasure.

I remember the old ones and see how some things have developed here and wow.

That is great work.

I still contend that while this description is one i believe. That while technically it robs you of your identity and free willing sanity, so that willing and santity become harder even if it's not chained to a violent ritual, but instead lets say flicking the lights on and off ten times every time. This defense mechanism is for the severest shocks and a traumas the human soul goes through. Fighting your way back to a wholeness and reconciling and accepting and loving yourself in the new condition are powerful tools. That lead to new life out of a condition that seems broken.

the idea of male love the desire or the chase and tied to the concept of lack and attainment and female love or the unattainable.

also relates to the structure or the loop invovled in trauma. Or the difference between conscious thought and perhaps non critical non self asserted or out of what is control thought.

That's why one might struggle against psychosis but it's also why one might keep their sanity. Which is essence.

I can't remember which philosophy asserts it but, a kind of knowing is related in this philosophy as the noose, or the idea of the concious collecting or grabbing something.
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Jarvis Blinnerspear - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:48:26 EST ID:U9scTQrw No.208155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The eye that sees evil is evil.
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Mon, 22 May 2017 02:03:43 EST ID:hX9kQ/Yg No.208159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208155
It takes a thief to catch a thief.


Philosophical anime by Simon Blackshaw - Mon, 14 Mar 2016 14:44:49 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.205314 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anybody got any philosophically deep anime recommendations?
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Blackie-Chan - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 05:07:40 EST ID:P5jbTK9T No.207878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why has nobody posted about Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann?

It has Plato's Cave parallels, the Will to Power, an Ubermensch AND an Ubermensch successor, morally ambiguous decisions, inspiring and hot-blooded speeches, awesome art, music, and characters.
Its a show that is almost impossible to NOT be inspired by due to its insistence that determination, fighting spirit, and love can win against any threat and break and bonds that humans may have.
What's not to like?
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Lydia Sinkintane - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 14:51:48 EST ID:upgdBNHk No.207889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Revy doesn't care about anything. She's a nihilist.

"Oh, that must be exhausting."
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Walter Shakewill - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 09:58:36 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207878
Gurren Lagann was quite a tale. It had many twists and turns, many true moral dilemmas. It was very well-done. Truly, Kill La Kill pales in comparison to TTGL in terms of philosophy, but Kill La Kill was fun in it's own way; the director was really showing off his animation and just having fun satiring the shonen community. Truly a show for stoners.

I recently re-watched Shin Sekai Yori (From the New World). What a fantastic show. What makes it especially fantastic is that the protagonist slowly learns the true nature of her village, the last bastion of civilization, is a totalitarian/fascist community, and at first she fights against this, thinking her society wrong for slaying innocents and such, yet as she grows and experiences more of the chaotic nature of life, she eventually realizes that this totalitarian/fascist way of life is truly the only way to survive. This anime truly flips morality on it's head and shows that what we consider just and right is merely reflective of how humanity is doing, and that as humanity declines, so must our rights as individuals in favor of the majority, because civilization must survive over the individual.

And then you've got fucking movies like Snow Piercer where, when faced with a dilemma between old-school morality and the utter survival of the human race, the hero chooses old-school morality and damns humanity to death merely for not living up to his standards of justice. In choosing between one young and innocent boy sacrificing himself to a life of torture for the sake of keeping society alive, the protagonist opts to save the boy and allow humanity as a whole to crumble and die.
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Jarvis Blinnerspear - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:46:35 EST ID:U9scTQrw No.208154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>205314
In my opinion, none of them are "philosophically deep" because that's not their purpose, and in comparison to actual philosophical works (which are all books), they're all horribly shallow. That goes for anime and manga.

But, Berserk draws heavily from Nietzsche and from western media that drew from Nietzsche. Vagabond has some neat concepts of course based on Musashi. Akira is a little Nietzsche inspired. Eden: It's An Endless World tries to establish connections to Gnosticism. That's all I can think of at the moment.
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Ian Bliddlefoot - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:11:56 EST ID:ChAktkJf No.208156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208154
it's disappointing how after all the moral social and philosophical ranting the ending lesson of Eden was just "lol have hope things will get better if you have hope". He really sort of gave up halfway through, perhaps earlier. I don't think that guy had any idea what he wanted to do with that series to begin with., he just liked robots killing each other and spewing ideology and quotes he doesn't fully understand. the gnostic stuff seemed more like window dressing to me, like how evangelion uses it. dude's got talent but no focus.


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