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We have to talk about louie ck by Beatrice Cloffingman - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 00:52:00 EST ID:ZQywfuGk No.207508 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Now louie is alright but there is something that he said which got me thinking like a dog stuck in the dog door. You see that guy was on a interview and he comes up with this way of looking where "a little white girl doesn't get to complain". He continues on about how when his kid was sick and he got her flavored medicine which she didn't want. "what do you mean no? People are starving to death and you say no!? You don't get to!"

And it hit me, okay she is not starving and that's better than the alternative but in a way, she resembles what society has sacrificed inorder to not starve. That little girl sick but she still thinking about petty shit like the flavor of her medicine, she forever in this headspace where things like that matter. The sacrifice is a clear mind replaced by that of something like a consumer.
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Graham Baddlebury - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 17:35:02 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207756
>You're a bit emotional for /pss/, but then again pretty much everyone here who's not me is too emotional.

Reread your post, and you'll figure out the joke yourself mate.
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Cyril Wallerworth - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 18:23:58 EST ID:Ya59RsKY No.207758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207756
Everyone who comes to this board are emotional children who like to get their jollies from trying to sound smarter than other people they don't know on the internet. And there are like five of us, and we're all garbage people. Don't try to deny it.
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Ernest Pablingway - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 03:50:09 EST ID:YONArVoZ No.207759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207758
This, I just came here by accident and you're all the worst.
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Fucking Brocklewick - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 08:57:11 EST ID:5T+lpeRC No.207760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207753
>lol I'm smarter than you
>but I"m not stuck up look at this ironic blingee anime gif I'm chill
>I'M SMART FUCK OFF
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Cedric Drebberwan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:42:25 EST ID:YXMsMuFM No.207777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207758


Stimulant psychosis by Thomas Buzzville - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 02:46:38 EST ID:PNxBjttw No.207672 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Realization of the Individual

An Informal and Incomplete Attempt at Documenting Ramblings of Stimulant Psychosis, as a Less Fucked-Up Freud Would Attempt With Only Anecdotal Evidence and Subjective Observations

Extinguishing Sex in
Delapidated Gender Politics and

A letter to an old and new friend,

Would it be personally irksome to suggest that by rekindling a frienship with the "you" that always existed in my mind, represented through your thoughts and actions, and now modified, complemented, and made whole, in all practical pretenses of recognition, a gendered-persona in my mind, lets me realize the ultimate muteness and insignificance of how I (and certainly others) change behavioral patterns (voluntarily or involuntarily, passively or actively) when attempting to communicate with the opposite gender, as if that particular gendered individual is inherently predisposed to respond a different way, and additionally the idea of the value of posturing oneself through vanity or display of ostensibly desirable attributes; leading to the realization that it is a fools game to live vicariously through an edited version of yourself (unless of course you desire a beneficial outcome for yourself, in some form of perverse psychological-token reward manufactured by yourself for your actualization and relization of your true self being, as a result of biological urges programmed by the primordial hind-mind, nothing more than a biological machine, (with gluttonous desire to consume everything and base ability to interact in a perverse incentivized-token society of dark portents and dubious destination), whose soul purpose is to pursue the evolutional pipe-dream of maximal distribution of your genes as an ego-driven mandate of your existence.) So I posit the question to myself and everone: Why let your ability of limitless self-expression succumb to the whimsy of the biological urge to procreate?

The idea of the "transgender" individual is uncomfortable for a large portion of humanity, across sexual orientations even, and this uncomfortability is due to an unwillingness of the ordinary individual to confront their own firstly amorphous and effectively raw Identity as they can illustrate outwardly for others or inward for themselves in any honest confidence without fibbing and cutting corners in important internal dialogues. Even individuals with singular missions through career or personal obligation of manifesting an idea in physical reality through some non-monetary motivation, struggle with the perception of themselves after completion, as their own understanding of their identity even during their 'mission' was not guided by some inherent imperative intrinsic in identity, but rather by a belief maintained by the constructs, irrespective of any moral grounding, that restricted the ability to self-actualize through a mode of self-expression which did not include the creation of art (this working definition of art being the representation of an idea, one's own or collectively amalgamized with others', through a medium unsullied by the self's neccesity to maintain a contrived character in order to survive.

I only preface this realization of mine with the fear of its possible irksomeness to you because its framing implicitly recognizes your transition, which is effectively a masked question of your actual existence, as it questions every others'... However, this only means that you have largely come to terms with the time, space, and reality you inhabit, and from my point of view, have gone further in the never-ending journey in self-actualization toward the ideal of Nietzsche's Ubermensch (as i interpret)
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Martha, OP - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 23:53:42 EST ID:PNxBjttw No.207683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207678
Additionally, do you think that [the] prose can have a place in the presentation of the raw idea for discussion?

Would you say there is validity in the notion of the ordinary individual feeling uncomfortable with the transgender phenomena due to some cognitive dissonance, the dissonant truths being the public persona and the internal self? And the behavioral reaction being avoidance, prejudice, and possible violence? Or on the flip side, a total and complete acceptance of the transgender phenomenon through the self-actualization of identity unbound by any gender, but wielding gender as a tool for self-expression. (and this is by no means implying it is a "choice" in self-actualization of gender, on the contrary, it is a deeply held conviction of one's Identity, an imperative to be expressed much like a gene.

NB
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Oliver Harringpore - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 11:44:36 EST ID:hKRevDFH No.207685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think you have conflicting ideas here, if my interpretation is correct.

You make the claim that people attach too much to their biological gender, and that discarding our biological urges is our path to the true self.

And then you place emphasis on transgendered individuals who place almost all of their attachment to their idea of what their biological gender should be. It seems out of place.

So is sexual identity important or not?

Or are you calling sexual identity one means of self actualization where the expression of the individuals 'art,' where art is any external expression of the self, is another means of self actualization?
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Op - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:16:30 EST ID:PNxBjttw No.207686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207685

Not saying that individuals attach too much to their biological gender, or thattransgendered individuals place too much value in ehat their biological gender should be, but that the aforementioned is not a part of true identity, but its appendage, "persona"

My idea of identity is neutered. What is presented for external observation is persona, which is what is sexualized.
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Op - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 23:25:23 EST ID:PNxBjttw No.207687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207685
Sexual orientation and Gender is a mechanism of self-expression for the true identity, through the apparatus of persona. It does not neccesarily imply the identity to be one thing or another inherently, but that the persona is neccessitated to engage and immerse itself in the terms of gender and sexuality.
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Matilda Doshman - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 09:49:04 EST ID:AY3IYDOV No.207688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207672
"I wont say that I'm proud of you because I feel what follows the emotion of pride is the ideation of some degree of my participation in your 'good' or 'achievement', which further implicates an idea of ownership of some portion of your being,"

I really like that. Pretty sound logic to me through and through, but let me double check i'm getting your message.

You write, "the idea of the value of posturing oneself through vanity or display of ostensibly desirable attributes; leading to the realization that it is a fools game to live vicariously through an edited version of yourself (unless of course you desire a beneficial outcome for yourself, in some form of perverse psychological-token reward manufactured by yourself for your actualization and relization of your true self being, as a result of biological urges programmed by the primordial hind-mind, nothing more than a biological machine, (with gluttonous desire to consume everything and base ability to interact in a perverse incentivized-token society of dark portents and dubious destination), whose soul purpose is to pursue the evolutional pipe-dream of maximal distribution of your genes as an ego-driven mandate of your existence.) So I posit the question to myself and everone: Why let your ability of limitless self-expression succumb to the whimsy of the biological urge to procreate?"

You mean to say that because of our animal origins, the egoic/lesser mind creates a "normal" or "likeable" facade to attract mates while also adorning qualities that further ensure survival based off environment, and upon discovering their facade,the person realizes their true self, which i gathered from your loose definition to be some amorphous creative force, thereby rendering the awakened individuals identity as both limitless and illusory.

Pretty sure that's what you meant. Either way good read, I really enjoy hifalutin prose. Your style really does reflect the honeymoon phase of amphetamines for me..definitely seemed stimmmmmed


Callout Culture by Basil Crindersun - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 23:44:07 EST ID:oDJItcGo No.207590 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Have y'all ever had the pleasure of being called out? I know the supposed purpose is this is to warn others about "dangerous" people but in practice I don't think I've ever seen it used like that. It's all nothing more than insecure people trying to outshame each other, usually hypocritically. Most fandom drama I've seen is played out exactly like that.

I'd put it on kids being immature, but grown adults do this sort of thing all the time. I think part of it is because people are jealous of other people's talents, so they target creators whose abilities they covert and hide behind the excuse of them drawing porn of children's cartoons of something.

I just wonder what motivates people to get so angry at cartoon drawings they have to attempt to destroy a person's life.
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George Dummledale - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 14:42:12 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207644
So true and wise.

They reject the police because they're being lied to. They think the police are some sort of gang, like in Mexico. They say things like, 'You'll think differently when the police shoot your son!'
Americans are wrapped in paranoia, especially surrounding the police. Literally every encounter I've had with the police, while breaking a law or not, have been very cool and chill, and the police clearly just cared about making sure everything was safe. Except for this one time a cop tried to fight me when I was 17 and bike riding in the Jersey Shore. I'm sad I didn't call the police to file an official complaint about that 20-something steroided-up little fucker.
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Cedric Dommlestone - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 00:01:11 EST ID:58c+uNGL No.207658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207644
I don't mean to challenge you sir. Because I am absolutely fascinated by what you've said. Could you name any of these "radical circles" by name or are you just generally associating that with the anti-authoritarian left?
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Molly Subberfield - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 21:55:39 EST ID:Am93n9Du No.207668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207658
Please, challenge all you like. Yeah I was speaking in general regarding the anti-authoritarian left. Sometimes drama would bubble-up on the internet. Though no specific examples come to mind.
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Rebecca Bozzleway - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 05:14:04 EST ID:YONArVoZ No.207684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Now I remember why I don't come here, /pss/ is the most autismal board on the site.

nb
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Frederick Brurringdetch - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:57:49 EST ID:p7ZQMKx+ No.207735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Scratch?


There's absolutely no central ethos driving modern thought and this is a good thing by Edwin Hickleket - Thu, 26 Jan 2017 19:57:41 EST ID:/8HhZCXH No.207641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Every time it's a slow news day for some posh culture zine I see articles crop up about what makes this generation tick. They say we're too detached and ironic one day and then the next they say we're big on sincerity. We either care too much or too little about the world, relationships, religion, everything. They go on and on about what philosophies dominate our youth culture but what they say we think is constantly changing and never really gets it right. There aren't any movements in our culture that take hold of the vast majority of young adults anymore. There aren't any cultural idols or iconoclasts. There are very very famous people but for everyone who worships the ground these celebrities walk on there are as many who would spit in their faces. The Internet and in general the free access to information and quality of our schooling has brought up a generation where almost no one agrees on anything. Everyone has their own ideas about everything because they don't have to get their belief system from either their parents and teachers or counter-cultural movements. People can go online right now and read thousands of pages from the great works of every philosopher who has ever lived and been recorded. They don't have to suffer through learning by a lesson plan that directs their thought by only including the "right" things. And they don't have one single alternative to what's considered the "culture" of the "majority" at the second. Sure, most people don't care about any of this stuff and they just want to eat, sleep, fuck, feel valued and have fun but that's how it's always been. Only recently has the lack of any philosophical guidance brought this to light. There's absolutely nothing wrong with this way of thinking either. It doesn't make them dumb or immoral it just means they don't have any interest in ideology. If 99% of people in the world were like this it would still be better than when people followed a belief system insincerely because that's what they were supposed to or because they wanted to rebel. I think maybe someday this will change, I don't know how it could but it might, maybe by force of som…
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Hedda Crommlebury - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:48:00 EST ID:BKJX7E+7 No.207646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried to read your post mate, but it's a wall of text in the fullest extent of the word.

Please use spaces between chunks of texts next time ok?
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Eugene Dartbanks - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 00:42:57 EST ID:wbhmCm0d No.207648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207641
The past wasn't homogeneous either, we just tend to pigeonhole things more when they're further from us.


Racism by Rebecca Greenwill - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 01:52:29 EST ID:RJGzRrNh No.207576 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Posting here because social sciences.

What really determines if someone is racist?
Earlier today i was walking to collect my mail and throw my rubbish in the bin when i passed some black kids a boy and a girl, we smiled and nodded at each other but about half way to the letterbox i felt an unease and immeditly thought that these kids were going to rob me, they didnt, but i cant ignore that thought. Am i racist? would i have thought that if they were white, maybe if they were tatted up white kids who seemed like they had a drug problem.

So what is racism? Was i being a racist?
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Sophie Cuffingridge - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 09:22:19 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207622
I totally concur.

That being said, I'm almost positive that when black people say 'all whites are racist' what they actually mean is, 'all white people (in the USA) have an objective advantage over blacks due to how this country has been run the last 300 years, and therefore whites need to rectify this issue before equality can exist.'

That being said, this issue will not be rectified, but one day African Americans will stop caring because they'll be on almost equal footing to whites in terms of money and influence (but not population numbers) and at that point racism will just be such an old, insignificant conversation. Probably.
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Henry Chendershit - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 17:04:53 EST ID:2IPvcf8v No.207624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207623
I feel like for the most part racism already is an old insignificant thing. I feel as though a lot of what get's counted as racism are perceptions about past hardships, perceived offense. The actual hardcore real racism that exists nowadays is somewhat small in first world countries. At least compared to a century ago.

That's not to say that racism isn't a form of excessive self serving idiocy, it is. The things that happen with it seem smaller and smaller. The worst thing I can see is people still deciding themselves along racial lines. Now come the problem I see with that, is that in and of itself a form of prejudice?

I do feel like some of the sensitivity towards the idea of racism is exaggerated by seeing all these groups as separate. So does that play into the problem of racism itself? Prejudice and racism are both wrong. I think that as time goes on at the very least the world is moving more and more away from these things. I think discrimination, anger, these are the things that would make a person truly racist op.
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Martin Cledgeforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 06:29:13 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207576
Do you feel unease when a black guy in the library asks you where the toilets are? Do you feel unease when a black guy in a densely stacked record store asks you if he could squeeze past you?

Feeling unease around people walking down the street is normal. The streets are while statistically safe, still a "dangerous open place". There is no real ritualized behavior on the streets like there is in cafe's or public pools, etc.

You feel out in the open.

If some white trash had walked past you, you probably would have felt the same way.
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Jarvis Greenforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 09:42:57 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207630
I don't even speak to white trash. I was getting gas in some shady area the other day and there was this middle-aged couple sitting and smoking cigs outside the station. I got in my truck and the man comes up and starts knocking on my window. I literally just look at him, put my truck into Drive, and drive off while he's standing there knocking on my window.

Trashy people are trash. I lived next to a white/mexican ghetto growing up and lived next to the black projects in my young adulthood. It's all the same, just different cultures. There's tons of drugs, tons of wanton violence, people smile at you and act like your friend just so they can rob you or ask you for money and then start demanding it. My best friend growing up (white dude) was found eviscerated with some other dude who'd been killed on a train track in my town. I stopped chilling with that dude when he started ripping people off for dope. I feel bad for his bastard fucking son.

Low-income, low-education areas are just the worst no matter what color. You don't see any of this shit in middle-class and up areas.
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Hugh Hablingway - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 06:25:10 EST ID:RJGzRrNh No.207696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207576
OP here.

So this morning a bunch of police raided an apartment below me, turns out those black kids, were squatting in a vacant apartment with a bunch of other black kids, apparently they were part of a Sudanese gang and were robbing people in my neighbourhood constantly.

I know it sounds convenient, but im being totally honest with you, i have never heard anything so scary in my life, and ive heard a meth head cry out and bang and scream because he locked himself out of his house and had to wait an entire day for a locksmith.

>>207630

I think you're right. setting also helps too, i have no problem talking to people of all races/religions most of the time.


Existential dread by Polly Pishbanks - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:50:50 EST ID:fxoRXnTe No.207530 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /pss/, sorry for not being more philosophical, but I would like to get some advice from you all. It'll be hard to present my problem in a way that will yield the best results, so bear with me.
My friend has been struggling with finding a meaning to life. He's very intellectual, so he has done a lot of his own research by way of philosophy, and I'm pretty sure he considers himself an Absurdist. But he's not comfortable with the fact that nothing has meaning. Now I've read some Camus and I do agree that there is some quelling of these anxieties in the fact that at least Nothing is real, but this isn't enough for my friend. I've tried to get him to explain his feelings a bit more but I don't want to act like I'm analyzing him by writing things down as he explains. So again, I apologize if none of this is very clear.

That being said, I'll share some of the things I can recall him saying. He says he's bored with everything, and a lot of things that once gave him joy fail to excite him any longer. Some of these things are simple, such as video games, and he says he dislikes activities like this because they're not beneficial over time. So I ask why he doesn't do something that is beneficial, such as reading a book or learning something new. He does a lot of reading and learning, but again argues that even all this knowledge he acquires has no benefit because it will all die with him. Another thing I noticed when he talks about this is that he often says 'nothing matters on a cosmic level'. I tried saying that everything serves a purpose, using the example I read on here how a table is more than the sum of its parts, it serves a purpose for us to use it to rest things on. He then said that everything is nothing but atoms, and atoms have no purpose and that they simply exist.

I don't know. He finds no purpose in anything. I want to help him find a purpose for at least some things. Science can't really prove that there is a meaning for things, so I'm at a loss for what to tell him.
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 23:25:35 EST ID:vano1wpA No.207546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207545
It's a consequence of the totalizing effect of secular materialism on people's understanding of the world. Without a God, they conclude there is no locus of causality and morality, and therefore there must be nothing at all; they don't realize that to pose the question (of existential meaning) is already to be defeated.

Let me share something a very smart man once told me. Imagine arranging everything this way:

Aesthetic
Moral
________
Logical
Theoretical


"Aesthetic" here means what's apparent to the senses, "logical" the system of inductive and deductive reasoning, and "theoretical" the overarching framework of knowledge. Now what he convinced me of is that the only sensible way to understanding is by going from the top down -- you start with the sensory realm, you use that to develop your moral conscience, you use that to develop your system of reasoning, and finally you arrive at your theory of the world. The failing of countless otherwise very intelligent people throughout history is they went they wrong way about it. If you start by elucidating your theory of reality, you will never get to a correct moral understanding. That's why there's a line between the moral and logical. You can't get there from here.

"The meaning of life" is going about it totally backwards. What can be said at all? This (consciousness) appears to be a source of mattering. Now one has an axiological leg to stand on. Have I made my point clearly?
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Phoebe Berrypag - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 03:28:33 EST ID:M2a7S9cl No.207547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207546
Simply to exist and perceive is meaningful? Regardless of our notions about anything, personal or greater insignificance, wonder can be standing on the porch, listening to the rain, smoking, breathing, feeling the wind, gravity, my posture, seeing the city move, and a fat racoon cross the street.

That our ideas are the product of our experiences is generally a Phenomenological concept. I mean of Jean-Paul Sartre's thought, particularly "Being and Nothingness", about alot of things, consciousness in relation to becoming, having a dream or aspiration, which is negated by the possibility of not following through, or other real or imagined selves who have same or similar aspiration and don't follow through, but also reaffirmed by the possibility of actualizing the goal in reality. In between the intention and the action is nothing.

The translator has a far better summation in the introduction, my knowledge is pretty nil here. There's an interesting bit about emotion in the introduction too. Here's a long quote from the first chapter, the Origin of Negation, V the Origin of Nothingness
https://books.google.com/books?id=X6RtpboH478C&lpg=PP1&pg=PP1#v=onepage&q&f=false

"I assert that I am my essence in the mode of being of the in-itself. At the same time I always refuse to consider that essence as being historically constituted and as implying my action as a circle implies its properties. I apprehend it, or at least I try to apprehend it as the original beginning of my possible, and I do not admit at all that it has in itself a beginning. I assert then that an act is free when it exactly reflects my essence. However this freedom which would disturb me if it were freedom before myself, I attempt to bring back to the heart of my essence--i.e., of my self. It is a matter of envisaging the self as a little God which inhabits me and which possesses my freedom as a metaphysical virtue. It would be no longer my being which would be free qua being but my Self which would be free in the heart of my consciousness. It is a fiction eminently reassuring since freedom has been driven down into the heart of an opaque being; to the extent that my essence is n…
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Phoebe Berrypag - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 03:31:32 EST ID:M2a7S9cl No.207548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207547 (continued)
However the examination of the question and of the negation has given us all that it can. We have been referred by it to empirical freedom as the nihilation of man in the heart of temporality and as the necessary condition for the transcending apprehension of negatites. It remains to found this empirical freedom. It can not be both the original nihilation and the ground of all nihilation. Actually it contributes to constituting transcendences in immanence which condition all negative transcendences. But the very fact that the transcendences of empirical freedom are constituted in immanence as transcendence shows us that we are dealing with secondary nihilations which suppose the existence of an original nothingness. They are only a stage in the analytical regression which leads us from the examples of transcendence called "negatites" to the being which is its own nothingness. Evidently it is necessary to find the foundation of all negation in a nihilation which is exercised in the very heart of immanence; in absolute immanence, in the pure subjectivity of the instantaneous cogito we must discover the original act by which man is to himself his own nothingness. What must be the nature of consciousness in order that man in consciousness and in terms of consciousness should arise in the world as the being who is his own nothingness and by whom nothingness comes into the world?

We seem to lack here the instrument to permit us to resolve this new problem; negation directly engages only freedom. We must find in freedom itself the conduct which will permit us to push further. Now this conduct, which will lead us to the threshold of immanence and which remains still sufficiently objective so that we can objectively disengage its conditions of possibility--this we have already encountered. Have we not remarked earlier that in bad faith, we are-anguish-in-order-to-flee-anguish within the unity of a single consciousness? If bad faith is to be possible, we should be able within the same consciousness to meet with the unity of being and non-being--the being-in-order-not-to-be. Bad faith is going to be the next object of our investigation. For man to be able to question, he must be ca…
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 03:32:51 EST ID:vano1wpA No.207570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>207567
>All the contents of the average human life is a salad bowl of circumstantial, transitory desires that do more to obliterate one's connection to their will to live than to advance any endeavor they may want to undertake before death.
Gotta be honest, this is a pretty bad sentence homie.
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Reuben Wirrystock - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 11:49:47 EST ID:Kyyd6tev No.207581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207570
>one grammatical error
>pretty bad
fo you i fix
>All the contents of the average human life are a salad bowl of circumstantial, transitory desires that do more to wear down their will to live than to advance any endeavor that one may want to undertake in life.


Ancient Chinese story by Sidney Pezzlekere - Thu, 15 Dec 2016 16:46:46 EST ID:0bScNOuz No.207458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /pss/. I don't really venture into the social sciences too much so I'm not sure if this would be better suited for /his/ or not. In any case, a friend of mine who was a student of Eastern philosophy recently died. I have since then been trying to tack down a story he once told me. It was about an ancient philosopher who I think was Chinese. The story had the philosopher lying in a ditch when a person comes along and offers to help him. The philosopher made some clever remark and refused the man's help. I believe he said something about no one being able to help him but himself, or maybe he just liked the ditch or some other nonsense.

Does anyone on /pss/ know a possible source for this story or the name of the philosopher? I have tried multiple search engines and quieries to no avail.
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Shitting Gadgefoot - Sun, 18 Dec 2016 04:37:44 EST ID:j9/Y0UW9 No.207472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207458
Isn't this just another version of the "No thank you, I am a holy man, God will save me" story/joke? A man in trouble refuses the help of men coming to his aid saying that God will save him because he is a faithful man and believes in God, and eventually the man dies and when he gets to heaven he asks God why he didn't save him and God's like well I sent three guys to help you out dude!
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Thomas Pockstock - Sun, 18 Dec 2016 13:43:02 EST ID:iAquTtgI No.207473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's one about two monks who help a lady across a river and the lady doesn't say thank you, so later that day the young monk is like fuck that bitch and the old monk says "I carried her across the river, you've been carrying her all day."
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Hannah Feblingfit - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:58:22 EST ID:rKFvzvQa No.207490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It may be a variation on one of those common stories. I was just wondering since I'm sure my friend said a particular name when he told it and I wanted to be able to look up the original text it came from. Thanks for taking a look at this.
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Eugene Pendlemut - Thu, 12 Jan 2017 06:05:50 EST ID:Jv6wkL6u No.207573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty sure that the story OP is talking about is a zen koan, though I can't remember the specific koan in question.

Google "The Gateless Gate" and "Shobogenzo" and get reading, it'll be floating around somewhere on the internet.


NDE by Graham Docklewill - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 15:30:31 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207543 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've had a few NDE's, one of which was ongoing for months and months while the others were instantaneous. It was really the one that went on for months that had the most drastic impact by far.

But anyway, I noticed that I actually line up with all of these symptoms of NDE.
Anyone else here a fellow NDE'er?
http://iands.org/aftereffects-of-near-death-states.html
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Ebenezer Bloshworth - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:05:39 EST ID:xA39R98b No.207560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207557
I connect with the statement he made and see it this way:

Our consciousness is predisposed one way or another to not let it's full range be seen / known to us at our current stage of evolution. It's basic desire / goal is to experience and learn and it has realized down the line the experiencing and learning would become limited if we know and see everything in full range already. It's like opening up GTA San Andreas the first time and you've got 100% saved game with 98m. Now you don't even care about killing ballas anymore, you think you're just so far ahead. Or imagine living like the movie Limitless portrays. If everybody saw so far ahead, that there would be little to no chance for a downfall, the possibilities for deep-rooted lessons would become very limited. Eventually, I assume, people would be living their bliss with no burning desire (and I mean BURNING something like the desire to become wealthy that being all-out broke with a dream gives) to do anything, except longetivity. The huge unknown that's in front of our lives simply gives us all the possibilities and probabilities and is a tool of discovery.

Your consciousness wants to learn about self, so it wants to know and see how will you act and come along if X is Y, then Z happens. I believe there's a certain hierarchy of intelligence in play when it comes to our lives, minds and bodies, and I think we're somewhere at the mid-point or below the centerline. Basically I think we're noobs in the game of universe.
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Ebenezer Bloshworth - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 08:10:57 EST ID:xA39R98b No.207561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207560
Oh and free will. The unknown gives us or expands our free will.
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Charlotte Bluddlegold - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 15:48:51 EST ID:BKJX7E+7 No.207562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207556

>If consciousness is infinite and immortal, it is in your body's best interest, and is an emergent evolutionary phenomenon, for you to have no knowledge of this.

Yet there's plenty of religions that argue that we indeed have an immortal consciousness in the form of a soul. Believers "know" this to be true, and indeed act like it as well.

So there'd be a real issue here with your argument if we're gonna take the evolution of mind into context here.

My argument was that NDEs exist as a behavioral strategy to survive in the event that your old behaviors leads to your near-death. Sure, not a strong point and I can think of many counter-arguments, both evolutionary and philosophical, against it.

But yours is that the body itself has some mechanisms to prevent us from realizing our supposed immortal nature. This is in my view even worse, for example wouldn't our bodies prevent the development of spiritual religion as a consequence?
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Cornelius Gottingridge - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 17:49:58 EST ID:2GsJcMxc No.207563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207562
No, there are evolutionary benefits to believing in spiritual things without knowing them in the same way we know the feeling of gravity pushing our bodies down. it can help reduce anxiety and fear, and give one a sense of purpose to believe in spiritual things.

It's just like temperature. If we get too hot, we die, but with no heat we also die. There is an ideal amount of heat.

In the same way, there is an ideal amount of spiritual knowledge - a vague intuition, backed by belief. If the body allowed us to have too much spiritual knowledge it would threaten the body's survival, and if it allowed none, not even an unformed intuition of meaning, then its survival would also be threatened by nihilism which would lead to suicide of excessive risk-taking.

In fact, because religion and spirituality have evolved, we could say that it's in the body's interest to allow us to have partial, vague, obfuscated intuitions of immortality, while restricting clear knowledge of it.

I'm in a rush and I'm not alone right now, so this might not be as well formulated as it could have been.
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Jarvis Greencocke - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 21:57:39 EST ID:Z08uqMmD No.207564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a little drunk so I couldn't read the whole thing, but I've almost died several times; not from physiological trauma, but from a more instantaneous variety.

I show alot of the outcomes, including a lack of fear of death, although a healty fear of dying stays with me; I don't think dying will be pleasant though the aftermath will be fine.

The most pronounced NDE that I had involved rolling in a car. I was uninjured, but was able to see my relative importance in this world. Watching the traffic on the highway pass by my totalled car, it showed me how insignificant I am to this world. The world just kept on moving past my world changing event. It made me cry at first, huddled up in a blanket I scavenged from my trunk, on the side of the highway. I'm not sure why I cried, maybe just coming to terms with how insignificant I am.

Well that's what I took from it.


"Loving" children by Hamilton Turveybanks - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 01:35:16 EST ID:Id5quEqH No.207537 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /pss/, I gotta question. Usually when people think of pedophiles or hebephiles, people with a sexual attraction to the young and/or underage. the image we have is some sleezy pervert who exploits and manipulates children for his own sexual gratification. But do you think it's possible for a grown man or woman to genuinely experience what we would call "love" in the less familiar sense for someone who is underage and how underage and how far apart would the two parties have to be for it to be considered unreasonable?

Basically, what I'm asking is do you think it's possible for a person to be sexually attracted not so much to children, but to a particular child in such a way that it could legitimately be seen as love in the general sense as we understand it. And if that were the case, should society be willing to make a qualitative difference between that twenty or thirty something individual who engages in an otherwise monogamous affair with a thirteen year old boy or girl because he or she feels that they are "in love" with them, between him/her and say someone else who just has a queer sort of fetish for fucking thirteen year olds because "thirteen year olds are sexy"?
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Emma Gessletit - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 09:03:42 EST ID:cU67cn3z No.207538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207537
I think such a thing is possible, but doesn't address the main argument against pedos, which is that children are innocent and can't make decisions, etc.

I think I would be okay with such a case if the feeling was mutual and nothing sexual happened until everyone was the legal age for consent (which should probably be 16).

I remember this rabbi pedo who had gay crushes on a number of the little jew boys, but he never acted on his feelings because he cared about them in a genuine way and didn't just want to fuck. Iirc, he told people about his feelings on his death bed, and that he didn't act on them.
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Matilda Buzzway - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 21:03:25 EST ID:Id5quEqH No.207542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207538
>but doesn't address the main argument against pedos, which is that children are innocent and can't make decisions, etc.
>I think I would be okay with such a case if the feeling was mutual and nothing sexual happened until everyone was the legal age for consent (which should probably be 16).

I think most people would just say that a guy in his late 20's who falls madly in love with a 12 year old girl or a 30 something year old woman falling head over heels and writing love poetry for a 14 year old boy have mental problems. If the underage boy or girl also believed they had similar feelings, most people would probably tell them they're too young to understand.
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Angus Billingstone - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 20:07:08 EST ID:5FY/Jbq3 No.207555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207542
Yeah I agree lol. Only in strict situations (like post-apocalypse etc) could I sanction such a thing, and even then I can't imagine how intimate (non-sexual) romance could arise when an undeveloped brain is involved.


Castro by Shitting Foddlechine - Mon, 28 Nov 2016 10:21:03 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207325 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's wax philosophical about Fidel Castro. The guy just died, but he was a living legend. Many loved him, many hated him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fidel_Castro

I think it would be awesome if we could discuss something like this in-depth. Like, if any of you are familiar with Castro, you should tell us how you feel about Castro and why. I don't want people coming in and being like, 'Oh he was just a cunt dictator' or 'Oh he was a hero', I want you guys to actually reference things Castro has done when you mention your opinion of him. Like, I think it'd be great if we could talk about the specifics of his presidency and rebellion.
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Polly Debberwater - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 19:43:16 EST ID:hvrM9XMO No.207416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207405
Which points would you like verified?

Here's the Katrina one:
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/9311876/ns/us_news-katrina_the_long_road_back/t/katrina-aid-cuba-no-thanks-says-us/
http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/americas/09/05/katrina.cuba/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_response_to_Hurricane_Katrina
> Cuba: One of the first countries to offer aid, Cuba offered to send 1,586 doctors and 26 tons of medicine. This aid was rejected by the State Department.[18] Also, before the 2006 World Baseball Classic, Cuba said they would donate their share of the winnings to Katrina victims to ensure the United States embargo against Cuba was not violated. However, after the tournament, the U.S. government refused to allow the donation.
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James Goodspear - Wed, 14 Dec 2016 09:33:47 EST ID:d4DXKOh3 No.207450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A guy on Belgian TV had a very nuanced look on Castro.

The guy was a dictator and has done some really fucked up shit. Cuba is also in pretty bad shape.

But compared to other countries in Latin-America, he did pretty well - I mean they're better off than Haiti, and he wasn't fucking absolute evil, like Pinochet and his cronies.
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the flicker (Seinesgleichen geschieht) !FwnV7hV52I - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 01:18:50 EST ID:DDgF44Bp No.207506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207450
>Pinochet
That's the crux of the whole thing, isn't it? Pinochet assumed power in a US-backed coup. For more than a century, the US did things like occupy Latin American countries, back right-wing death squads, oust democratically elected socialist leaders, and alone, Castro's Cuba successfully resisted. The amount of resources that the CIA invested in toppling the government of a tiny, irrelevant nation is almost as mind-boggling as the fact that they failed. Castro held onto power despite the ruinous economic damage of US sanctions and hundreds of coup and assassination plots. For that I must admire him.
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John Fanson - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 14:12:40 EST ID:vzTBl2h4 No.207507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207325
He was just a cunt dictator, but I can't deny that he was also a hero.
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Charles Pibberhedge - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:05:50 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I read some clickbait article today, '15 reasons why Che Guevara wasn't a hero.'
I thought it was hilarious. Just goes to show how fucking ridiculous people are.

I call them ridiculous because they considered Che a hero to begin with. Why would anyone consider a South American/African Communist warlord a hero? Oh, that's right, because his face is on a fucking t-shirt and he was an enemy of the USA.

These same retards think Fidel wasn't the hero. Why don't people know anything about history? Is history class in school pointless?


Atavism? by Cyril Dremmlefuck - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 15:26:13 EST ID:Y5UP2WQL No.207410 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else have a bad reaction to the mentally handicapped? Am I literally hitler?
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Phoebe Semmlestog - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:54:56 EST ID:DLzNkYBL No.207510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207500
>> why should rights be respected?
This is a very interesting point, and it kind of brings to fore the reality that the concept of rights is kind of circular. A right is a right because if you try to deny someone that right they will feel 'right' (justified) in preventing you from preventing them from exercising it. To say that it is anything more than that requires appeal to some system of metaphysics.
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Jack Goodhood - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 15:23:10 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207510
Well part of the issue is (from my somewhat educated understanding) is that originally the concept of 'rights' were 'things humans can innately perform unless physically oppressed' where are today 'rights' has been turned into something more like 'standard privileges' like 'the right to vote' and the idealistic 'right to healthcare'. Like the right to free speech and the right to bear arms and such all stem from this original idea of rights (which I think was Roman, maybe Greek) where in you cannot stop someone from speaking their mind or arming themselves with weaponry.

Idk, I like the classic concept of rights. My rights are my body and my ideas and that's about it as far as I care. Everything else is just a privilege. But don't let me throw us into a tangent. I'd love to talk more about the significant of rights and what's up with robbing people of their rights by throwing them in prison, and where that line needs to be drawn. Those are all fun, subjective subjects where there really is no right or wrong answer, just concensusses.
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Phoebe Semmlestog - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 18:45:21 EST ID:DLzNkYBL No.207517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207515
I agree with the classic concept of rights and I think it is probably accurate, however I will say that that concept still relies on certain metaphysical assumptions. Why is it that the 'right to life' is innate? What is it about a human being that intrinsically gives them the right to defend their own existence? Other kinds of living entities we do not extend the concept of those rights too, why? It requires postulating that being human extends something to unique to what we see as 'our rights.'

I would contend that kind of statement must come from some metaphysical theory that at minimum defines the existence of humans as an inherent good, which does not logically follow from the pure concept of rights. I don't disagree though, but merely cautioning that an extreme skeptic might even object to that minimal conception of 'rights.'
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Basil Fishdirk - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:07:12 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.207520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207517
I don't think the right to life is innate, I think that's more along the lines of privileges, but the right to kill is definitely innate. Like, if I wanted to kill people, I could, period. That's my right. That's every living creature's right, and every living creature tries to capitalize on that right. Yes, the right to kill is definitely innate while the right to live is not, because you don't choose whether or not you live, you just either get lucky or get unlucky. You either are born and live, or you never are born, or you're born and die before you really get to live.

But you seem more upset by the laws surrounding killing. You wonder why society allows humans to kill animals but will not allow animals to kill humans, and why society allows humans to kill other humans to defend their own lives.

This is the way I see it; everything and everyone, especially alive, is/are self-centered. Any living creature wants it's own kind to surpass all other races and species, and humans are no different. We willingly oppress all other species, and the majority of humans concur that this is acceptable because it only advantages them greatly, and in life we must take advantage of all advantages unless we wish to perish, which we don't.

As for killing other humans in self-defense, well, like I said, the right to kill is innate within us, and I suppose the way society sees it, the right to kill must be suppressed heavily to sustain order, however, the right to kill may be enjoyed against humans who are not considered important to society, such as a human being that is causing serious chaos and disorder by doing something like robbing a bank or going on a rampage.

Humans rely heavily on society. Society is this massive entity that engulfs pretty much all of us. And when we act in ways counter to society, society strikes back. Slay random/peaceful/active members of society and society quickly slays you back. Haha don't even get me started on my whole 'society is like a human brain and the humans within society are like the cells of a body' speech.
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Ernest Godgestare - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 17:13:59 EST ID:2IPvcf8v No.207523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a basically non reaction to the handicapped in general. I feel like gawking at them makes the whole thing worse. I don't try and talk around it though either. I don't really run into them all the time. Can't say I'd willing place myself around them all the time either.

Worst reaction is that I might find them kind of hard to deal with. I've met one in the past who was like that. But I don't think anyone but certain people would ever try and put themselves around the handicapped unless they wanted to take care of them or something.


Sigismund Schlomo Freud by Eliza Clipperwater - Sat, 17 Dec 2016 03:48:34 EST ID:5RTvrSPf No.207468 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What can /pss/ tell a layman about Mr. Froids?
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Albert Pockgold - Fri, 23 Dec 2016 20:12:23 EST ID:5RTvrSPf No.207503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So everyone talks about how his understanding of sexuality is profound and denied out of prudish objections. What exactly are the sexual truths he speaks of?
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Hugh Sobberchitch - Sat, 24 Dec 2016 19:04:11 EST ID:dm41dPYY No.207504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207503
Idk frood but ill try. Penis envy. People wanna fucl their parents
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Phoebe Semmlestog - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 22:50:56 EST ID:DLzNkYBL No.207509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207503
Mainly that every kind of volitional behavior and particularly subconscious impulses arise from sublimated or not so sublimated sexual/libidinal desires. Even phenomena so abstract as culture itself arise from the need to constrict and control the drive to obtain what one desires, and that these emerge from the sexual impulse because this is the only 'abstract' drive unlike the need for food, sleep, etc.
It's much more detailed than that, but that's the gist.
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Walter Brerringcocke - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:04:53 EST ID:fRXySuYb No.207513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207509
Sounds sort of like circular logic. I'm not necessarily arguing against it or that he is wrong but it seems like Solipsism, cool idea to think about but it isn't falsifiable so how can it be proven?

I could relate the fact that I walk slightly different from everyone else to sex if I wanted to get really contrived. I dunno mayne. Not saying it is wrong at all, I think he is on to something but how can it be a good hypothesis if it relies on the subconscious or a part of the brain that we can't access in an objective and scientific manner?
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Phoebe Semmlestog - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:29:32 EST ID:DLzNkYBL No.207514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>207513
I don't see how it's circular at all. A circular argument requires the conclusion to be contained within the premise.
The fact that you walk differently from others IS due to re-directed libidinal impulses, under Freud's theory (unless it's a physical condition.) Your attempt to actualize your ego by behaving in a different way from your peers is a way of signaling your uniqueness to mates -- that one is actually pretty cut and dry.

Moreover, the subconscious is in no way unamenable to empirical ('objective and scientific') analysis. The subconscious is merely the part of the mind which is held at a level of attention so low that it doesn't enter into our executive process, which is a relatively small neural network. All subconscious brain activity occurs with the exact same kind of neuronal activity that conscious activity does, and in fact occurs in a vastly larger degree, so it is as directly susceptible to empirical investigation as everything else about the brain/mind.


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