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Dissappointment by Ernest Waffingnig - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 02:47:12 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197016 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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what does it mean to be dissapointed?

and also what does it mean for the expectation that was disspointed.

If one has come to learn something to be one way, and then they are dissapointed what does that mean, if you have a thesis about things and it meets its anti thesis, do they cancel each other out?

Is this what disspointment is, or is it something else. People often go through feeling mistaken about whatever they were dissapointed in or from if they are disspointed. And others go onto regard dissapointment as a set back but may not regard whatever understanding they have as mistaken.

Just in general what does it mean to be dissappointed?
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Simon Chummlebire - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 08:54:50 EST ID:T/Kmx8GG No.197028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197026
>Would you throw away a bucket that has always worked but has a problem now, or would you try to remedy it.

It depends how much time and effort it would take to repair the bucket. If it impinges on other shit I have to do, I have to ask myself if I'm willing to sacrifice that or to just get a new one.

>yeah but you can not get the answers by the nature of the persons response on clarification, and leave it up to more trust and more time to see if that trust pans out, to see if that expanation is right.

It's your job to make sure the explanation is right, or if he's bullshitting you. You have to find some way to have a definite proof, definite enough for you anyway, and to make that person give you that proof. You have to set the terms, you can't leave that part to him.
If you can't trust the person anymore, you have to replace them. It's not gonna be the same, but we have relationships for utilitaristic personal reasons, even if that reason is as apparently trivial as "I just like to be around them", or "I just like to watch them do their thing". If you can't trust that person, you can risk that lack of trust poisoning you, or you can cut your losses and go on, look somewhere else to get what they gave to you, in some way or form. Or you have to sacrifice the satisfaction of that need of yours in order not to sacrifice satisfying other needs. Like if I like to fuck someone but I'm not sure if they'll steal from me or not, sooner or later I'll have to make a choice.


>>197027
>There has to be some state for that specific quality in an existential crisis. A philosophical description of it, with perspective about it that won't narrow it to fit a particular conclusion.

Being lost? Left wandering? Something along those lines, I think. The dark night of the soul, maybe. Getting lost doesn't narrow it, when you're lost you can go anywhere, so it fits I think.
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Shitting Shakebanks - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 09:00:58 EST ID:MDEj4Nkl No.197029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can dictionary threads go to /lit/ or something
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Frederick Bannermore - Fri, 05 Dec 2014 23:58:12 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197028
These are helpful, thanks man.

I think it might be lost.
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Frederick Bannermore - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 01:36:30 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197029
this could literally be applied to anything, if there is a word for it. I don't know why you would tie dissapointment into that, as a fresh dig, unless you assume the massess don't know or aren't familar with it. Which i assure everybody is, i gurantee you dissapointment is an essential feature to the average joe's vocabulary.

Just as Kierkegaard or heidaggar discuss anxiety as a concept. Just as many philosophers combine a psyhcolgical state with a philsophical reading, for a better concept and a fuller understanding, i was looking for philosophy on dissapointment.

Go penetrate yourself.
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Emma Basslehock - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 09:40:32 EST ID:CcAJ01Mh No.197219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ffs, just deconstruct the word. it's diss-appointed so it's like if you're thinking u get that swag new job and instead you walk up the stairs and get whip cream cock slapped off a few steps. It's like joining a new group of friends and being their bitch for a little while. It's that bitch mode you get in when your new electronic gets doused and you find out you can't fix it. It's that oh man, i should've prepared for this but really, i feel like most of the time i get dissapointed i've been misdirecting my upset towards justifying it's denial. There's like a half and half good and bad there so they cancel out. Basically ime it's when you anticipate one thing and then you have like double the wait time so you feel strained to focus after a little bit, but sometimes you need that focus, so you get a little upset, and yeah, maybe it works maybe not. but you added an extra s in disappointment


Methods of determining "function" by Barnaby Niddlebat - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 20:21:05 EST ID:vS8+qKFH No.196727 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So Aristotle basically says that the function of something = the distinctive feature of that thing, or the thing that that thing does that no other thing does. When you think about it with tools it works. Very well.

He says the thing a human does that nothing else does is "rational thought". So therefore the function of a human being is think rationally.

Any other interesting arguments surrounding the determination of functionality?

By the way I'm not saying that I think humans necessarily do have a function at all, it's just interesting. Pic unrelated, I think...
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Shit Chonnerwill - Thu, 04 Dec 2014 02:16:59 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197006
once again it would be a purpose

not the purpose

which i would say

and everyone else would as well

they would have to
ADMIT

if something has the potential purpose and it is used that way that object had that purpose.

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Isabella Pesslechid - Thu, 04 Dec 2014 06:36:27 EST ID:T/Kmx8GG No.197009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197002
>But it was self fufilling, he chose to narrow it, not because he was trapped, but because he trapped, himself in that for his own convenience because that was the course he sought.

Well yeah. I didn't mean the object traps you, I meant you can forget it was you who trapped yourself. This happens more easily if you search for approval, as seeing people trapping themselves in the same way by the same thing gives the illusion it's the thing that traps.
That's why I think asking questions like these seem like a recipe for deluding yourself: you already know your own take, why not just follow that? The trap is gonna come from you either way.
Of course you can also just treat other people's answers as inspiration to navigate within yourself.
It just seems people seldom do it with this conscious purpose, and more as a way to put themselves in the role of the victim, rather than the creator, in a more publicly convincing way.
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Emma Drinnerchadge - Thu, 04 Dec 2014 12:08:27 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.197011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197007

>so you are implying the object was never actually used?
no, that's obviously not what i'm saying, why are you pretending to be retarded?

we dont really seem to disagree, you say that an object has multiple purposes, anything it can be used for is a purpose the object possesses. I think this is awkward as all hell, and very much at odds with how people normally use the word purpose, but I'm not going to say that its wrong because its basically equivalent to my point which is that subjects define the purpose of objects.

>You can't broaden your definition of purpose, to be something outside of imbued or destined to be

this is confusing phrasing, if i understand you correctly, you are implying that I am the one who wants the definition of purpose to be something metaphysical like destiny or "imbuing"? I am trying to do away with those concepts and say that purpose is just whatever the subject plans to achieve by interacting with an object.

your post is incredibly redundant man, use some editing, did you really need all those single line statements to repeat your point over and over. I agree with almost everything you are saying

the only place there is friction is that I think most people do not use purpose in the way that you are using it, most people believe purpose IS something imbued by a creator, it IS "limiting" or whatever else you are saying. so you are arguing with the wrong person when you try to tell me that I am using a narrow definition of purpose, I am using the one people colloquially use
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Shit Chonnerwill - Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:16:19 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197011
I'm saying that because I posted something and you responded with that still wouldn't be the objects purpose but rather something in your mind, if you found a use for the object. And i'm trying to make a rhetorical point that despite whatever worldviews their may be or the populist rankings of the different ideas of purpose. Wouldn't the object still be used despite us insisting on all of it in some way. Thats what i'm asking by stressing the question.

I know you didn't say that practically, but i'm attempting to suggest that its practical use in this instance, implies a philsophical purpose, because of the object's potential being activated in a certain way.


On the second point.

you said it would have nothing to do with the object, if this were the case. I'm pointing out that a person finding a use within an object isn't necessarily them defining the purpose in a majority way. Despite them recognizing for themselves because of their intepretation of it. Ala, Its not used for a hammer it IS a hammer.

Its true that its only equipment because the human recognized it as such, but purpose also includes if that potential was there to be harnessed.

Thats why the object itself can be said to have purpose.

I don't know if you really understand repetition or your just thinking this is an opporutnity for criticism, so i won't go in to any long winded expanation. Suffice to say a pattern with repetition can enhance the meaning or it can stall it. I don't really think elaboration, is redundancy even when it can seem redundant.
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Shit Chonnerwill - Thu, 04 Dec 2014 15:24:55 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.197013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197009
People putting themselves in that role can equate to them making a case for why they actually were treated that way.

Hence their desire for you to see them as such through the public eye.


yes if you search for approval you may get trapped.

But on the other hand we seek validation as well, and those two things can become blurred.

I think at times people are trapped in a sense, because they are trying not to be and they are.

On the other hand i think people have those rationales that narrow and expand the boundaries to suit a given suspicion and we trap ourselves. And at times we may want it that way.


A powerful question. by Edwin Greenforth - Wed, 29 Oct 2014 19:34:54 EST ID:jmU7Oj7S No.196392 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is the beginning step for a deity to be created? There has to some sort of undiscovered force we haven't grasped yet that dictates things beyond just the properties of this reality.
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Emma Huzzlewudge - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 14:43:54 EST ID:fltNOnc1 No.196866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196819
pretending you are unfamilar with philosophers doing the same thing is odd.

You might not like nietzche, you might love nietzche, you might have no respect for him, feel indifferent, or have no knowledge of him at all.

But the kind of thing hes doing when he links truth with something else, and curiosity as something else. Is the same thing nietzche, socrates, kierkagard, and others do.

Its not the butchering of the english language.

Its how many many people seek to write. Are we all james joyce no.

I'm not james joyce.

But i'm not going to pretend that its not super easy to say have a sentence appear as hogwash or meaningful, and it be the same sentence.
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Ernest Bundale - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 15:56:58 EST ID:8BQbnIjV No.196867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196866
>but famous people do it
Is not a valid excuse.
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Augustus Favingstune - Tue, 02 Dec 2014 03:04:40 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.196968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196867
its not an excuse its an explanation for how i know you are familar with what hes saying.

and probably means you find many phrases perfectly enlightening that share the same "flagrantly getting it wrong"

Whether or not he excuted it artfully i am avoiding, because i don't know enough to say.

Its not really uncommon for most of what makes up are examples of good writing in the english langauge and in language in general, to use langauge in that kind of a way.


And its really really really common in philosophy. And its highly highly highly common for anybody who wants to appear grounded, to call it mumbo jumbo when its used today.

When they lack the exact same precise thinking in their criticism of these aphoristic leanings and obfuscated meanings as the spirtualistic wordiness they are attempting to shoot down.

There concept of clarity, is already inherently fuzzy. Half the time that debate tactic works not because what was said didn't make sense, but because it sounded complicated because it was not only for the listener but for the speaker, and they lose whatever thought that they had.
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Whitey Blythehood - Tue, 02 Dec 2014 11:09:13 EST ID:MDEj4Nkl No.196970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196968
You're arguing in favour of something and making it seem even less appealing, FYI
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Augustus Favingstune - Tue, 02 Dec 2014 16:19:38 EST ID:F5RtLyIS No.196974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196970
well now we're not even talking about if that kind of sentence is valid or not are we.


over-eating eating disorder is mental illness by Eugene Chucklehed - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:29:13 EST ID:4DJQkMXz No.196755 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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it is not recognized as such at this moment in time however. obese parents often have overweight and obese children as well
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Priscilla Sabberbury - Wed, 26 Nov 2014 16:25:29 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.196894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196891

yeah that's where you have to be careful with the word "obese" because weight is not really the most important health feature of a body, technically both sumo wrestlers and NFL lineman are obese, but if you have a healthy musculature under your fat that's can be excellent physical form, it is people who are fat at the expense of muscle that are totally unhealthy

sumo wrestlers and NFL lineman have big strong muscles under the fat and they eat enormous calorie loads every day to stave off the weight loss they would get from their exercise

at the same time, a lot of these huge athletes have some health problems associated with the sheer volume of body fat and the stress their weight puts on their body

of course a lot of maximum bulk weight-lifters and body builders have analogous health problems due to their size, so it's not just the volume of adipose tissue, sometimes you can just weigh too much no matter your body composition
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Whitey Dillerdat - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 02:01:48 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.196898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196774
>most people who exercise do not undereat,
I've been working as a personal trainer for some years now
Ive taught classes on the subject
Most people who increase exercise do not meet TDEE or above most of the time.
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Whitey Dillerdat - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 02:11:16 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.196899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196859
Usually, yes.
Food works chemically the same way an addictive drug works.
People raised on poor diets and a lot of access to poor foods have little impulse control.
>>196774
you're also annotating my condescending attitude.


>>196837
Increase in appetite does not mean you're going to eat all that you need.

Every time I work with people they always under eat, they say "I eat whenever Im hungry, I eat whatever I want, I eat big meals" and they are 500-1000 calories under what they should be eating at to just maintain basal metabolism
>>196856
Digestive issues =\= willpower
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Ebenezer Fappermedging - Thu, 27 Nov 2014 03:17:28 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.196902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196898

they do not meet TDEE

that means they aren't eating enough to optimize gains of muscle mass

are you honestly trying to claim right now that most active exercising people are losing weight and starving themselves??
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Faggy Fobblestare - Sun, 30 Nov 2014 23:24:04 EST ID:vWvBiMC9 No.196960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196760

This is so true.

I work in a kitchen and one of the chefs is quite fat. He always has this third eye for free food and what other people are eating, and when he makes something for himself its almost like he has a 3rd eye for casually positioning things out of the general eyeline of his co-workers. It always reminds me of this article I once read about pigs where they say they're secretly highly intelligent especially in regards to hiding food for later consumption and watching other pigs for where they store their food -- incidentally the article also talked about how pigs can be taught to play basic video games like pong etc. because they're not as dumb as they look and they have good eye sight and coordination.

Said fatso also gets fumingly angry whenever skinny co-workers make themselves chocolate waffles or some shit and he will be extremely irate all night while pretending it has nothing to do with someone having food.


Painless assisted suicide should be legal for anyone by Archie Gindlefork - Fri, 06 Jun 2014 11:45:05 EST ID:IGKMm2X9 No.194139 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I really feel that society should not force people to stay alive, or make those who wish to cease to exist resort to potentially painful, failure-prone methods of suicide.

Some people seem to not be meant for this life. Not everyone can take joy in it, and some who have had that ability have had that taken away.
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Walter Hinkinnag - Sat, 14 Jun 2014 22:26:55 EST ID:mRtXcFPt No.194385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>194305

I've been wanting to die on and off for years and years. Please cure me.
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morahdin - Wed, 02 Jul 2014 23:01:35 EST ID:WLFN9U4x No.194893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if this was allowed i dont think it should be a same day thing, you should have to talk with some one who would try to talk you out of it. with that thay would try to help you get thou what it is that made you want to. then you if you still want to go thou with it you should have to w8 for 30-60 day to get your affairs in order and tell you your loved one why your doing it so thay can have closure.
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Ian Bumblemidging - Thu, 03 Jul 2014 01:54:40 EST ID:kUi61RvX No.194903 Report Quick Reply
If I state:

"As of the time of this writing 07/02/2014, I am of sound mind, and sound body. This fact can be attested to by friends, acquaintances, and doctors: M. Bradley, R.Reilly, F. Smithbeck, O. Levens. I do declare that should my body lapse into such a state from which my physicians so determine that I am unable to make remarkable recovery from, I direct my caretakers to watch over my wellness of being with such instructions: please aid and hasten my death in a merciful, respectful way, with as little pain as can be reasonably be expected for my situation.
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Jarvis Duggleville - Thu, 03 Jul 2014 02:15:33 EST ID:ljQSkHpH No.194905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do not want the government mixed up in suicide for people experiencing psychological difficulties. I support terminal cases, though, on a case-by-case basis. Something else I could consider supporting would be people who have, say, lost all their limbs, or lost multiple senses. But not depression, it is too frickin common and too misunderstood. I am a depressed person myself and I have suicidal thoughts as of this moment, but it is something that I plan on doing alone, without aid. I think that suicide is a desperate, final act and it's right that it should not be an easy thing to do.
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Angus Handerham - Tue, 25 Nov 2014 01:28:31 EST ID:mKxE8yJc No.196871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Necroing a half year old thread
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luv by Faggy Brillypod - Mon, 24 Nov 2014 04:13:01 EST ID:Yj0I+3nr No.196861 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>weeaboed my way to age 22, got a gf finally
>still a neckbeard but gf points have arrived
>moved far away ( for drugs ) & break up
>realize i loved her
>find her love in random other girl
>beginning to love other girl
>love both girls
>love
>luv
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I have no idea how to look at ''blame''? by Whitey Wuddlenut - Thu, 13 Nov 2014 12:03:54 EST ID:uHDXz1GC No.196671 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I used to look at evil deeds and blame the evildoers, but then it felt like it wasn't true and that it did not have any purpose to it.
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Ebenezer Nirringpid - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:14:03 EST ID:FnLSIj6V No.196745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196735
>For one thing I wasn't even previously in this thread
me neither

>you're retreating from the argument and attempting to find ulterior motives.
this was my first post; just an observation; I don't really care about the argument at all. and next time please please PLEASE PLEEEASE read the whole post. I will even greentext you the line you skipped
>I am not saying you did so, but your post reminds me of this behavior.
>I am not saying you did so, but your post reminds me of this behavior.
twice.

on a side note, some people seem to skip parts of posts that would not give them reason to be offended, and only reply to the specific part of posts they want to, so they have a reason to make someone look like "retreating from the argument"
strange.
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Kocoayello !jxaL03vL/Q - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:59:50 EST ID:BVMklPf1 No.196749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196745
I had an old science teacher who used to say we students had "selective hearing". Similar phenomenon I'm guessing.
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Ebenezer Cledgestuck - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:37:11 EST ID:AchfVfIv No.196750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196731

>perhaps even finding a mistake in the other's reasoning so they can point many fingers at it.

....

...


I really shouldn't have to say what the problem is with what you said.
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Ebenezer Cledgestuck - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 19:38:36 EST ID:AchfVfIv No.196751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196750

But I will anyway.

Don't you WANT mistakes in your reasoning to be pointed out?

Do you want to continue believing in things for reasons that are provably false? No, of course you don't.

So why would you object to being pressed and then proven wrong?
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Barnaby Bluckleville - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 17:19:08 EST ID:McimSD/A No.196769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196745

Sorry dude but you basically just said "there's this really annoying thing that people do that's bad, what you're doing now is kinda like that!" It's pretty obvious what you were trying to do and just because I didn't pay lip service to your display of skepticism doesn't mean I didn't read it. If you went up to a guy in a pink shirt and said "there's this thing where guys who are obnoxious assholes wear pink shirts to get attention; you may not be doing that but you just reminded me of it" obviously he'd think you were attempting to insult him and probably say something like "fuck off asshole." And you would then just go, "Hey! I said that MIGHT not be what you're doing! Were you listening?!?" How thick are you?

In fact you used this same exact technique of insulting me by not directly mentioning me at the end of your new post. I have to assume now that you're just naturally really indirectly aggressive... which is all the more annoying since you like to claim complete innocence and even denigrate somebody when they attempt to defend themselves.

TL;DR get some basic social skills you can't just lob "observations" which amount to you making fun of someone and expect the other person to 1) not take that as a direct insult and 2) defend themselves.


What do you call this fallacy? by Rebecca Blabberpare - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 10:27:05 EST ID:RXvdnOol No.196709 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you call this fallacy?

Something is a necessary condition for something else, but that necessary condition is wrongly interpreted as a sufficient condition.
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James Gicklewell - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:03:13 EST ID:24Ubdhjh No.196720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196715
Give an example of what you mean.
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Rebecca Blabberpare - Sun, 16 Nov 2014 14:44:36 EST ID:RXvdnOol No.196723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196720
Indeterminism true, therefore free will is true. Even though there are more conditions needed for free will to exist than just indeterminism.
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Betsy Sopperway - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 23:13:49 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.196754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there are many ways to interpret why that is wrong

the person who believes indeterminism implies free will is under the mistaken belief that either determinism is true OR free will exists, with no other options, this is a false dichotomy, which is an "informal fallacy"

another way to interpret it is to say that it is affirming the consequent. free will implies indeterminism, F > I, that is one way of logically translating that indeterminism is a necessary condition for free will, if I is true, you cannot logically derive F, that would be an invalid argument

fallacies are just one kind of way in which somebody can be wrong, not every mistake is a logical fallacy. what you said in your OP is a perfectly good description of a mistake: believing a necessary condition is a sufficient one.
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Simon Crugglelutch - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 11:59:33 EST ID:vS8+qKFH No.196765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, it might be that you're talking about a supervenience relationship?
I mean it's not a fallacy at all, it just describes a dependancy relationship where x is a necessary condition for y, but x doesn't necessarily lead to y in all cases. e.g. the outcome of the chess game supervenes on the moves of the chess game - the only way to change the outcome is to change the moves, but changing the moves won't necessarily change the outcome.
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Caroline Nullernidge - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 12:07:16 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.196767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196723
indeterminate feelings is just a feeling, after all.
That is our perception of that feeling,
to claim it was freewill is a hasty conclusion, X to Z with no Y.


Women seek out eternal fathers by Nicholas Brudgefuck - Fri, 31 Oct 2014 09:57:23 EST ID:4DJQkMXz No.196401 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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women are most comfortable with a man that makes them feel like a child, snuggled and protected and looked after, they are seeking out a father to fill the void. the characteristics comparable between fathers and the ideal behavior many women desire in their partners is strong
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Jack Clubberforth - Thu, 06 Nov 2014 10:46:24 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.196579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe everyone that thinks women desire daddy figures are wrong. Maybe things like wanting safety and comfort are universally normal traits in humans that has nothing to do with parents, except that parents exhibit the behavior.

No matter how mature or immature a human is, they always want love, safety, embrace; things of that nature. I can't imagine a human that dislikes these things at their core, as a matter of fact it seems so basic for humans that I believe modern psychology has no grasp on the subject because they over-think it.
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Nigel Fudgeneck - Thu, 06 Nov 2014 13:20:16 EST ID:Kia2imGk No.196582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196579

There's a difference between wanting those things from a partner, and wanting them so bad that you're gonna degrade yourself by being with a shitty partner whose only redeeming quality is giving you safety, leading you to ignore every mistake he makes, every bad feeling you might have toward him, and every other relationship he may cause you to destroy.
It's this constant blindness and justificating that make the complexes, not the natural human needs they stem from.
The same goes for men, of course. But they admit it even less.
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Frederick Chaddlefoot - Wed, 12 Nov 2014 20:32:13 EST ID:nhLsZOhD No.196661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They want tall men so they feel like children. It's a woman's intrinsic conscience that makes her want to feel young.
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Charlotte Dunnerbury - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 05:07:46 EST ID:lkRe6jHO No.196761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is more prevalent when the person didn't recieve the right stimulus to mature past the point of desiring that. Its EXTREMELY common in our society because it happens to be that good dads are extremely few and far between especially when it comes to raising girls. So yeah daddy issues is right.
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Phyllis Trotville - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 10:48:05 EST ID:Xx5xWZwg No.196763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196582
you're right in a sense.. males and females can both seek partners based solely on them providing similar comforts that their parents (or any other significant person, maybe an ex even) provided, but that doesn't necessarily mean they are searching for a father or mother: there are probably many qualities about their parents they dislike and do not want in a partner. As for staying with someone who is shit but barely provides you that comfort you seek: Yeah, the world is lonely, people get lonely, and sometimes settle for cold pizza. The constant blindness and justification is not justification of a complex, it is justification of receiving the comfort you seek. The complexes described in this thread only appear to arise because, as >>196579 said, humans need connectedness, and the easiest way to get it is in a familiar way, and you ARE your parents, so that will be the most comfortable human archetype to get that comfort from. It's more of the general phemonena of being trapped in a specific culture than it is a sexual complex.


OTHER-DIMENSIONAL INTELLIGENCE by Caroline Buzzwater - Sat, 01 Nov 2014 10:22:42 EST ID:4DJQkMXz No.196431 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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it exists...
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Martha Fandlelot - Sat, 01 Nov 2014 17:53:38 EST ID:j0p57M0O No.196449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I live in minus three dimensions. Don't opress me.
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Faggy Chovingsan - Sat, 01 Nov 2014 18:30:22 EST ID:UCaZDJOn No.196450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196439
Yep, I'm still sane.
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Kocoayello !jxaL03vL/Q - Sat, 01 Nov 2014 22:31:06 EST ID:BVMklPf1 No.196459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>196450
How unsane are the geometries in higher spacial dimensions?
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Lydia Sundermen - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 01:59:07 EST ID:kwbhsnAV No.196758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't think I know enough about dimensions to say whether or not it's even possible, and I think that's probably true for the average person - considering a lot of people still picture dimensions as alternate magical realms. I'm skeptical. I found a cool description of what some parts of life must be like for higher-dimensional beings though. Not as fantastical as you might think.

http://www.askamathematician.com/2012/05/q-what-would-life-be-like-in-higher-dimensions/

In short I don't know. How would a higher dimensional species evolve at all? Why don't we exist in higher dimensions? It's something that is hard to learn about because 90% of the websites you'll visit on the topic are new age garbage.
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Wesley Grandway - Wed, 19 Nov 2014 03:15:57 EST ID:MjUnxVRr No.196759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No goddamn it these are closure-enhancers they're not meant to be taken literally.
When some irksome situation gets resolved by a stroke of luck we say it was "an act of God", when we change in a way we couldn't have predicted we say "it was an other-dimensional intelligence", but these are nonsense phrases meant to not make us think too much about what happened and put it behind us, if you take it as an answer that requires elaboration you'll go insane (Philip Dick being a famous example).
We need to attribute authority because that's how deviant our brain are, obsessed with blame and greed and shit like that, we can't just accept that shit happened, and now it's over, and you don't know how to make it not happen anymore or how to make it happen more.


condition by Beatrice Dickleburk - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:30:14 EST ID:nhLsZOhD No.196741 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How can society be free from all social conditioning?
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Edward Cringerhone - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 18:47:31 EST ID:McimSD/A No.196742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You raise them in an isolated environment, never teaching them things like language or how to behave.
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Ian Burringshaw - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 22:38:34 EST ID:7sJ/68Ak No.196743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Obligatory "what is social conditioning?"
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Ebenezer Nirringpid - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 09:15:21 EST ID:FnLSIj6V No.196746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there is no social conditioning.
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Albert Cloddlechadging - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 10:45:26 EST ID:VcAEYktF No.196747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is no society without social conditioning.
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Basil Pittdale - Tue, 18 Nov 2014 15:39:26 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.196748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196747

this is true in multiple ways, without social conditioning, humans would not form cohesive patterns of interlocking counterparts.

and then on the other hand, living in a society necessarily conditions every person who is a part of that society, it's impossible to live around people all doing certain things and not be conditioned by this

S implies C

~C implies ~S


What is "being free"? by Simon Gommlefick - Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:23:33 EST ID:ax7MYbam No.196365 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is "being free"?
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Clara Billerhane - Wed, 12 Nov 2014 15:56:37 EST ID:+xYp+5pw No.196656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>196653
>What you call unexpected results are also expected, they're simply judged as the least probable to happen between them.
Fair enough... But then, isn't everything expected? Then, 'expected' becomes meaningless. I don't "expect" there to be a blizzard in florida this week, even though there's a small, real chance of it happening. So now, your definition that supposedly uses common words is actually subverting the usual definitions.

>being so patient with me
I did change my opinion as discussing, so it goes both ways. I'm really not one of those people who thinks all philosophical questions should be deferred to science. Collaboration is the way to go.
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Priscilla Honeyspear - Wed, 12 Nov 2014 17:21:43 EST ID:35JWikBU No.196658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196656
>But then, isn't everything expected?

That's like saying there's nothing you can't fathom.
Also while you can potentially imagine anything if you put your mind to it, you'll never actually do it in real life, as you have limited time and energy. There'll be plenty of situations you would never have thought could possibly happen, or even exist. Connections you wouldn't even think to make. If that weren't the case we'd never see anything new.

My definition simply makes it transparent that we're talking about point of views. It's more involving, as it reads more real to life, like you're following the chronicle of a person's actions, a person who keeps his wits with him instead of drowning in metaphors.
I think expressing it like this also makes it easier for the person doing the work to maintain a healthy detachment and to remember that they're working on models for some other purpose that's not expanding the model itself. That the model is a crutch, not their legs.
Using more "impersonal" language can make it easier to make you feel as if the model is guiding you, which can become messy and mine your sanity a little bit.

Who knows how many supposedly "unsolvable" mathematical problems could become trivial if we framed them in a different way?
I guess I'll find out. I hope. I'd certainly like the money.
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Lillian Pimblecocke - Wed, 12 Nov 2014 21:21:41 EST ID:vS8+qKFH No.196662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Being free is living by rules that you have made for yourself.

> dat Rousseau
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Charles Gucklechut - Wed, 12 Nov 2014 22:34:49 EST ID:hgfltBKL No.196663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not unjustly being deprived the means to achieve self actualization
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Basil Chemmlewell - Mon, 17 Nov 2014 11:45:07 EST ID:jjr/H98U No.196733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>196663
Is there a just way of doing so?


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