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The unconscious mind under general anaesthesia by Hugh Lightdock - Fri, 22 May 2015 23:32:59 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200889 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When you go to sleep, your unconscious is still running. Even in the deepest sleep when you're not conscious at all, the unconscious mind is still organizing stuff; it never quits working while you're sleeping.

But when you go under general anaesthesia, is your unconscious temporarily out-of-comission, or is it still running?
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sun, 24 May 2015 18:23:18 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.200952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ya, mon. I've heard that the 3rd plateau is like dying where the 4th plateau is like transcending universes.
I've only hit the 2nd, mind you (a very intense 2nd plateaus). But I can definitely feel that "body leaping from itself" kinda feeling. A bit more intense and it would've been ay lmao.

Just one whiff of that fog and you're in. side. out!
Emma Bluvingstone - Sun, 24 May 2015 20:48:39 EST ID:JQnDFS+M No.200954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Depends on the anesthetic; I know at least some practically shuts down the central nervous system so I seriously doubt any level of thinking is going on at all. In some ways it's like being brain dead, with only homeostatic processes like heart control going on.


Well the scientific assumption is that the internal clock works by measuring the speed of the brain's own processes. So when you die, I'd theorize depending on which processes gets shut down first the physiological clock looses its reference; time simply breaks.
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Mon, 25 May 2015 16:24:04 EST ID:i6Id+/bH No.200969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If time breaks, then would it be like a singularity? Where time stops for you and where you end is rather you just being caught in the moment and that moment only?
Isn't that the same thing as death in general?
David Trotway - Mon, 25 May 2015 18:24:56 EST ID:3youw/OC No.200976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Perception of time is illusion. In reality, time doesn't even flow.

But without this illusion, most people wouldn't be able to live effectively.
Perhaps even "all people", but I have strong expectations of myself.
Hannah Bardfield - Wed, 27 May 2015 02:19:06 EST ID:cnbl5oaw No.200995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
time exists outside of our perception.
If time is the measure of the decaying of the universe, or flow of energy.

A thought on the book of genesis by Isabella Favingwirk - Tue, 19 May 2015 16:05:53 EST ID:0wXbb0e7 No.200834 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I have this theory about the book of genesis that I wanted to share with you guys.

Way back, somewhere in the middle east, there was this really smart dude with some interesting ideas on how the universe came into existence. How the laws of physics shaped the stars, the planets (including earth), how these laws control every proces on earth, even human behaviour. How it is useless to fight against these forces: acceptance and love are the only proper ways to cope with them.

All this stuff was way too hard for the average dude in his community. To try and explain it, he personified these forced of nature and called them 'God' and made a nice little story out of.

People really liked his story and maybe even understood what he ment. These people told his story to their children and the story was passed on for generations. But after some generations the real meaning got lost and people thought there was an actual dude in the sky doing this stuff. This wrongly interpreted story eventually got written down in the book of genesis.

Any thoughts?
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Eliza Sozzleway - Wed, 20 May 2015 02:52:05 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200843 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Naw, man. Jesus wrote Genesis.
Jenny Breshdock - Wed, 20 May 2015 08:10:15 EST ID:J60rVzQB No.200846 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Read Babylonian myths, which "old testament" is a successor to
Eugene Fablingshit - Thu, 21 May 2015 19:02:39 EST ID:FFSv4J0k No.200865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ever heard of a game called 'Chinese whispers'? it's a game that explores the phenomenon of most human minds not being designed for perfect repetition of long complex fragments of linguistic data. One could argue that a lot o religious/mythological texts are very much a result of this.

Furthermore, have you ever considered the 'parody effect'; whereby a story would be retold usually in a comic manner? It can also be argued that these stories would have been manipulated accidentally or deliberately by individuals over the course of time. Possible reasons include:
  • Individual's perception of the gist or essence of the story
  • Ulterior motives
  • The need to make the story more appealing/easy to understand/ easier to convey the key memes, etc.
James Barrylock - Tue, 26 May 2015 19:25:45 EST ID:t8lq0BoQ No.200986 Ignore Report Quick Reply

heres a interesting one: when god casted them fools from the garden, he said "now you are like one of US" US?
Nigger Fammleford - Tue, 26 May 2015 22:26:12 EST ID:6WOXcjq+ No.200989 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First of all, Hebrew "Elohim" can be both singular and plural

I believe that originally God was indeed a myriad of gods who spoke in one voice. But nowadays any monotheist theologian will tell you that plural was used to signify the mysterious nature of God and how it is "2deep4u mane".

Also, Elohim were afraid that Adam will also eat from the Tree of Life and become immortal.

Mind that in Babylonian (perhaps)-original eating the forbidden fruit of Knowledge was an act of wisdom and evolution, although humanity lost their ability to communicate with the world of animals, which "became foreign". So, it's sort of like growing up, when you can no longer communicate with 3 year olds.

Notice that in Babylonian (perhaps)-originals it was failure to become immortal that was the mistake of Adapa, not eating from the "Good Tree"(as tree of knowledge was called there)

The feeling of attending a sermon at a Greek Orthodox church by Nathaniel Snodshit - Sun, 17 May 2015 23:56:59 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200785 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is a really great feeling for those who haven't been raised in a religious environment, or who have become disillusioned with life or religion, or people who have too many problems (internal and external) that they just can't deal with.

I can't say that I am truly a Christian. I am more of a pantheist and arguably even an atheist by some definitions.

But the experience is just beautiful and incredible. The incense, the iconography, the chanting, the stories, all of it.

It's comforting even if you don't really believe wholeheartedly in the gospel. The priests really do believe in love and kindness and good will toward men. Where are you going to find that, if you don't have anything to offer others? The church will comfort you even if you have nothing to give. Even if you are an atheist, as long as you are respectful they wouldn't kick you out or anything. They might even be happy that you're there.

Even if you don't believe in God, the environment itself is a wondrous place and you may find yourself filled with inexplicable emotions and a feeling of comfort and safety. There is apparently a part of your brain that is supposed to have religious experiences, and a Greek Orthodox sermon is a really interesting and nice experience. Even if you only go for the last 30 minutes or so.

I can't recommend it highly enough. If you feel like your life is completely hopeless, if you're afraid or anxious, just give it a try. Nothing to lose.
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Eliza Sozzleway - Tue, 19 May 2015 23:53:13 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200837 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>I can almost feel all that energy, the religious fervor, directed at a thing that doesn't really exist but that I've been socially conditioned to find meaningful.

That's the point. Feel the energy; just go with it. It's great.

You don't have to go if you don't want to but...I'd recommend it. It beats the pants off of Southern Baptist churches, at least. IMO.
John Punninghag - Wed, 20 May 2015 01:32:48 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.200838 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But it doesn't feel good. It feels creepy and invasive, like it's trying to get into me and rewrite who I am. This music is kind of what it feels like for me to be in a church, particularly alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWqxPp6SvMw
Lydia Winkinlatch - Thu, 21 May 2015 22:29:35 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200875 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Dude, due.

You're forgetting the myrrh.

You can't possibly be upset while you're smelling myrrh.
Barnaby Semblewell - Fri, 22 May 2015 18:44:53 EST ID:OSIkQTgo No.200884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wittgenstein approves this thread.
Caroline Lightdock - Fri, 22 May 2015 20:55:47 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.200886 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Makes my nose itch.

Is the internet/porn making it more common for people to stay partnerless? by Isabella Bommlemane - Mon, 11 May 2015 01:02:59 EST ID:88PQGD15 No.200594 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Mostly I am talking about the rise of 'forever alone' virgins who remain so well into their 20s and beyond. Is porn and online communication making their plight more bearable, so they do not 'settle' for a real world person? Mostly, they seem to dream outside of their occupation/hobbies/lifestyle. They do not go out and find lovers who would make them happy because they are fixated on fantasies, perfect 10s, perfect personalities, etc.

(After browsing a few circle jerks where these people congregate, I got to thinking about all of this)
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Edwin Siggleshit - Tue, 19 May 2015 04:17:57 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.200828 Ignore Report Quick Reply

if you keep up the speedballs, you'll never have to find out what a woman can you make you feel because you'll never have a real relationship again you junky
Beatrice Blozzlewell - Wed, 20 May 2015 23:34:35 EST ID:0D/GJjZb No.200854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
in ages past, we put forever alone nerds in something called a monastary, where they would do such things as copy books, write religious fanfics and practice weird hobbies like microbrewing or tracing the genetics of pea plants.

now that we have the printing press and don't care much for pea plant genetics anymore, we don't have nearly as many options for disposing of our socially useless.

don't blame the internet for lonely faggots. for every faggot on a Chan that's bitching about how he's alone, there's another faggot on tinder or Craigslist looking for a quick fuck. people are people; our technological artefacts just sort of facilitate that, and the manifestations change over the ages, but we still remain the same humans.
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Thu, 21 May 2015 02:12:49 EST ID:1n/x/NVQ No.200855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
4 in my life and counting. If I even was a junky, what would allow you to judge?

If I used for chronic pain and enjoyed a speedball every now and then, would I still be a junky? At least this 'junky' is more articulate than you'll ever be >:E

nb for off topic
Eugene Fablingshit - Thu, 21 May 2015 19:09:17 EST ID:FFSv4J0k No.200866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, and now with the internet humans have created an ecosystem where thought can be exchanged which leads to further technological, social, cultural, economical, ecological, physiological and psychological progress across single individuals and groups . So in a way, the 'forever alone nerds' do contribute to the development of mankind as a whole in some way or the other.
Augustus Lightridge - Fri, 22 May 2015 19:27:55 EST ID:RJzhxnRZ No.200885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right, I wasn't trying to imply anything about the productivity of the forever-aloner.

My point was that humans are essentially unchanged between then and now and the addition of technology hasn't fundamentally changed the nature of forever-aloneness, but rather has simply altered the manifestation it takes.

Victim complexes by Ernest Nizzleham - Mon, 11 May 2015 10:41:42 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.200600 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else think that Millenials have a victim complex and that it has seriously trivialized what it means to be a victim?
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Jenny Breshdock - Wed, 20 May 2015 08:09:41 EST ID:J60rVzQB No.200845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Beatrice Blozzlewell - Thu, 21 May 2015 03:22:55 EST ID:0D/GJjZb No.200858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>post 92 kids

wait...the people in this thread think "millennial" is defined by a year? oh wow.

"millenials" are what's also called "generation y". gen y is the children of gen x. gen x is the children of the boomers. boomers are anyone born between 1946 and 1964.

I'm 24, born in 1991 (so by you, a pre-92 kid or whatever), but my grandparents are boomers. my parents are gen x-ers, thus I am technically a "millennial".

shit, unless you're in your mid thirties or older, you're probably a millennial too.
Nigel Tillingham - Thu, 21 May 2015 22:01:50 EST ID:rw8C7lRx No.200872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's right though, I feel that bullying characteristic he's describing is becoming more prevalent with people isolating themselves in their own bubble of viewpoints, and with the internet they can find echo chambers that encourage them to look at all sides of the issue.
Caroline Drettingham - Fri, 22 May 2015 16:25:29 EST ID:iJjtvRni No.200881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
millenial is defined by being born in 1985 or later. For instance, I'm a 26 year old millenial and my boomer parents were 30 when they had me in 1989. Your parents are probably boomers too, you just can't do math.
Sophie Fendleforth - Fri, 22 May 2015 17:40:04 EST ID:P6XoDIJP No.200882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Familial "generations" are different from demographic "generations."

>gen y is the children of gen x. gen x is the children of the boomers.
This isn't true. A baby boomer could have given birth to both a gen-xer and a millennial. If you know big families, this makes more sense. The older sibling will be part of a different generation than the younger ones.

>wait...the people in this thread think "millennial" is defined by a year?
> boomers are anyone born between 1946 and 1964.

Ethics of factory farming by Betsy Clarrybury - Sun, 03 May 2015 00:39:49 EST ID:USgViPKT No.200375 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Factory farming creates so much suffering that it's incredible that we're not doing more to stop it.

So many animals are suffering terrible lives and terrible deaths in what are basically torture chambers, to feed the greed of humanity.

It's just awful.

I can't think of any reason why this should be happening. It's a mistake.
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Eugene Fablingshit - Thu, 21 May 2015 18:50:09 EST ID:FFSv4J0k No.200863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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<see this.
Lydia Winkinlatch - Thu, 21 May 2015 21:30:47 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200869 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What are you trying to imply?

Whitening sugar isn't necessary. We could all do with less-refined sugar. It wouldn't cause even 1/1000000000000000000000th the amount of suffering that factory farming does. Have you ever tried turbinado sugar? The shit is delicious.
Lydia Winkinlatch - Thu, 21 May 2015 21:32:31 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200870 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Also, creams and lotions?

We can make creams and lotions without factory farming. Easily. Shea butter, cocoa butter, olive oil, blah blah blah.

Fertilizer--we could compost our own shit into fertilizer. Easily. Or Compost produce. Or get manure from farms that aren't factory farms.

And glass--glass comes from bones? It can also come from sand. Last time I checked...there was a lot of sand on this here earth. A lot. I live in New England and there is sand EVERYWHERE.
Lydia Winkinlatch - Thu, 21 May 2015 21:39:47 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200871 Ignore Report Quick Reply

And...cake mix?

I can make cake mix without cow blood. Are you serious? Do you think you need BLOOD to make a cake? What the fuck kind of cake are you making?

Jews and Muslims don't eat blood. They still have cake. Shit, I used to make cake from scratch and I never put any blood in it.
Sophie Fendleforth - Fri, 22 May 2015 17:43:32 EST ID:P6XoDIJP No.200883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>not using bone glass and blood cake
What a pleb

Where to begin with Free Will vs. Determinism by Jack Simbleworth - Fri, 08 May 2015 17:41:33 EST ID:sG/R1FUH No.200522 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want an unbias view. And NO heavy reading, absolutely not. It shouldn't take smart words and squares of words to convey anything worthy
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Nigger Curringmere - Sun, 17 May 2015 14:41:16 EST ID:1heTqcJX No.200772 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Depending on your interpretation of science (QM being the clearest example), you could make equally valid arguments for and against metaphysical free will.

no, this is wrong.

there aren't "equally valid arguments to make for and against metaphysical free will" because there are NO valid arguments of any kind in support of metaphysical free will, as you seem to agree here:

>Why? Because the metaphysical concept of free will is nonsenical.

interpretations of QM are totally irrelevant here, there is nothing "depending on your interpretation of science"
Alice Peddlekitch - Sun, 17 May 2015 18:47:08 EST ID:P6XoDIJP No.200775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>there aren't "equally valid arguments to make for and against metaphysical free will" because there are NO valid arguments of any kind
If two things are invalid, then they're equally valid.

>interpretations of QM are totally irrelevant here, there is nothing "depending on your interpretation of science"
The point is that science doesn't answer either way. Why? Because the metaphysical concept of free will is nonsensical.
Samuel Bosslefere - Sun, 17 May 2015 19:17:36 EST ID:vWvBiMC9 No.200779 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'd assume bitching is mostly symptomatic of being a bitch but that's getting way too off-topic. Either way its antagonistic purely because I disagree with you. Being the internet I normally wouldn't give a shit but considering you spent all that time talking about blaming situations and not people and blah blah you have what comes across as a needlessly antagonistic modality. Maybe focusing on this would help your relationship with your brother more than intellectualising it as determinism but OK.

Also the comment about personality disorders wasn't directed to everybody that believes in determinism because your opinions on why determinism is relevant is not the opinion of every person that believes in determinism and you really do rant on about being blamed and blaming others almost like its a day-to-day anxiety for you. This isn't even the first thread you've talked about it in.

>I can think of about..five or six countries that make it the focus? Out of hundreds? Even in those countries rehabilitation is frequently opposed.

This is a messy topic that you're vastly over-simplifying. Rehabilitation can only ever be a facet of a criminal justice system. It also depends on the existing society (you could not, for example, just port over the Scandinavian system to America and expect it to just work)

In the end punishments do actually act as a deterrent whether determinism exists or not. The problem is you're just cherry-picking deterrent to mean 0 crime which is obviously not a realistic scenario but hey, since we've never employed your perfect rehabilitation system maybe that could achieve 0 crime rates! But if crime no-longer carried punishments (as in severely negative consequences) crime would no longer be a risk or the risk would be decreased etc. - deterministically I would expect crime to increase.


That was my poor use of words. I meant rehabilitation or deterrence and either way they weren't really intended for that. Crime was so rampant that it was just assumed to always exist. The social orders of pre-modern societies also created a lot of crime but, again, the solution would have meant increasing the power of the peasants/serfs/bottom-class at the expense of the rulers. And that was the whole point of 'punishment' back then: to maintain that social structure. If they wanted to solve crime or prevent it or reduce it they'd remove the incentives for it. And the reason they didn't do this was _not_ because they believed in freewill and or hadn't considered determinism.
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Nathaniel Snodshit - Mon, 18 May 2015 01:26:36 EST ID:U5+NI3Kn No.200787 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I think you're confusing him with me.

I'm Zja+OtAc (posting from a different ip)

The person you've been arguing with for the past few posts is i7iQqMLC.

We aren't the same person but you seem to be under the impression we are.

So I'm just setting the record straight.
Nigel Niggerstone - Mon, 18 May 2015 04:55:43 EST ID:vWvBiMC9 No.200794 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I didn't notice that


Ethics of zoos by Lydia Fanford - Sat, 09 May 2015 15:16:53 EST ID:JJkvgN52 No.200557 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Like the factory farming thread, expanding into the imprisonment of animals for reasons not having to do with consumption. Mainly, entertainment purposes and protecting endangered species at a high cost to their quality of life.
George Buzzfuck - Sat, 09 May 2015 15:27:20 EST ID:m8XDmwXZ No.200560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They should serve as rehabilitation establishments (with some catering to entertainment) strictly for the re-release of an animal into the wild or create a simulated (ranges, trees, hills) environment. There is no need for the viewers to be "up close n personal" or better yet, people could develop better systems than simple fence and wire.
idk. zoos man.
Nell Pockson - Sat, 09 May 2015 20:15:23 EST ID:8bhreI// No.200575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We're the ones in the zoo, mannn.

Really though, what that other guy said.
Hannah Hegglefuck - Sat, 16 May 2015 07:39:01 EST ID:IQ52R6S/ No.200741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I, for one, welcome the return of animal fights on the arenas.
Sidney Supperstone - Sat, 16 May 2015 12:17:09 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.200750 Ignore Report Quick Reply

All of that costs money
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sun, 17 May 2015 19:03:32 EST ID:lJKwg7RK No.200777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Legitimate questions you must consider before you ask if zoos are ethical.

Zoos do a lot of humanitarian work. Does the end justify the means? Also, is it right to keep goldfish? What about turles/snakes/octopussy/parrots?
I am partial to the idea of Safaris. Does that simulate a real environment? Some animals actually die due to (stresses) of captivity. What stress does it impose on them? If those animals (narwhals, etc) cannot actually live with stresses of being captive, what do those stressing effects do on other captive animals?

What happens to the health of humans when they're in prison?

Angels in Judaism by Molly Duckbanks - Sun, 15 Mar 2015 12:12:13 EST ID:NNhsPAVk No.199425 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are they supposed to have feelings, or are they just like mindless automatons?
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Sidney Supperstone - Sat, 16 May 2015 12:24:39 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.200751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>We've all grown up with the shepherd in control of our lives. We can willfully ignore him if we choose, but we still recognise his voice. We don't recognise the voice anyone else because they have not taken the same care of us that Jesus has.

I can see you missed my point entirely. Let me spell this out for you. We only recognize a shepherd's voice if we grow up with him. If that voice was not that of Jesus, then we are not going to recognize the voice of Jesus, because we are conditioned by our life experience to respond to some other voice. If you grow up with the Buddha as your shepherd, then the voice to which you'll respond will be that of the Buddha.

It's like if the shepherd was the one who took care of the sheep, but the shepherd was ultimately just a ranch hire with no actual decision-making power over the sheep. The one who really rules the sheep is the owner of the ranch - the boss who gives orders to the shepherd. But the sheep don't respond to the real authority - they respond to the the "authority" that's been in contact with them.

Or maybe the shepherd isn't even employed by the ranch owner, he's just some homeless bum who lives in a tree that's been hanging out with the sheep, and the sheep have come to like and listen to him because he sneaks them food or whatever.
Jarvis Puckledale - Sat, 16 May 2015 18:13:12 EST ID:0BzOcSPg No.200757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mindless automatons, just like in islam

another reason why "new testament" and most of christian legacy is a mistake, an unfitting fanfiction and should be discarded
Hannah Hevingstock - Sat, 16 May 2015 23:44:34 EST ID:WMvfZvqA No.200761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, but the angels of the "old testament" are vicious and furious and so unequivocally frustrated that the shit they say goes beyond what needs to be said. There's opinion involved.

Islam came after Christianity btw, so it's fanfic too.
Charlotte Durringwill - Sun, 17 May 2015 02:56:20 EST ID:0BzOcSPg No.200765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quran is like Old Testament is like Babylonian Myths

Meanwhile, New Testament preaches a completely different moral code and a different idea of god, further altered by Christians to the point of unrecognizable
Hannah Hevingstock - Sun, 17 May 2015 10:50:10 EST ID:WMvfZvqA No.200767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A worthy point.

Seriously though they all came from Yezidism. Those angels definitely had feelings.

The genius of Silicon Valley: by Nicholas Hirryfeck - Sat, 16 May 2015 11:17:58 EST ID:7SP8yavL No.200746 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Chamath Palihapitiya - Full Interview

So this was very interesting to me.
Basically Silicon Valley Venture capitalist ( Net worth US$ 1.2 billion) talking about the world as is and is becoming.

Watch the video and make up your own mind. He strikes me as the neo-yuppie type dangerously divorced from reality but also has some novel ideas and even some good ones.
The underlying thought patterns scare me though. To me he seems like the type of person that is a bit too eager to get loose from tradition / established values and:

Read this for context

could come to the conclusion that people useless to the economy or "progress" should be shunned or even worse...
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Nicholas Hirryfeck - Sat, 16 May 2015 11:19:01 EST ID:7SP8yavL No.200747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I get the feeling his radical perspective and eagerness to revolutionise and progress may prove to be what so many times is, just another spin of the same old wheel.
He's big on investing in Medical science.

It's an interesting talk that touches the most modern technology, modern companies, big money, privacy, near future etc...
Nicholas Hirryfeck - Sat, 16 May 2015 11:20:24 EST ID:7SP8yavL No.200748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I mean at one point he compares the complete loss of privacy and peoples qualms about that to the generational tension concerning rock n roll during its time.

Not exactly something a sane or smart person does. And I'm assuming he has some level of intelligence being a billionaire...
Sidney Supperstone - Sat, 16 May 2015 12:15:24 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.200749 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Smart doesn't factor into it. It's a question of values. A person could be the brightest person in a particular field, but have totally different values from you, leading to conclusions that you think are idiotic.

Stephen Harper, for instance, is probably one of the smarter people in Canadian politics. Know what he uses it for? Furthering his evangelical right-wing nutter values.
Sophie Bullystun - Sat, 16 May 2015 12:39:00 EST ID:CWtos5OM No.200752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The genius of silicon valley
Is commercializing technology invented in government labs.

They're being elevated right now like stock brokers were in the 80s. Fuck 'em.

Kabbalah by Caroline Sivinglug - Fri, 08 May 2015 12:47:47 EST ID:wdbBwMkU No.200517 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am interested in using the Kabbalah to improve my life.

Are there any books or places beginners should look into to begin the path to fulfillment claimed to be from the Kabbalah?
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Esther Bingerterk - Sun, 10 May 2015 12:27:29 EST ID:QGohiXkV No.200579 Report Quick Reply
I have. I enjoy Manly P. Hall's work, a lot of his lecture can be some really farfetched speculation I don't believe we descended from giants and stuff, i think that kind of occultism led to nazism, but not intentionally. I think the Thule society misunderstood Hall and Blatvatsky. And not to discredit him, but he wrote all his books on Masonry before he was a Mason, but that's not to say he's wrong about the symbolism. The Pillars are definitely a representation of the tree of life
Esther Bingerterk - Sun, 10 May 2015 12:29:17 EST ID:QGohiXkV No.200580 Report Quick Reply
The best places to look are probably Lon Milo Duquette, Carrol Poke Runyon and Manly P. Hall is okay, but the first to will describe stuff better. Manly P. Hall is more into myth than mysticism, and I don't necessarily mean 'fake' when I use the world myth.
Nicholas Fucklekark - Tue, 12 May 2015 19:22:58 EST ID:LgRiVsYQ No.200636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
check out richard dawkin
Nigel Clottingfutch - Wed, 13 May 2015 22:23:51 EST ID:QGohiXkV No.200683 Report Quick Reply
Hannah Hegglefuck - Sat, 16 May 2015 07:38:15 EST ID:IQ52R6S/ No.200740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuck Kabbalah, which is an interesting Jewish religion, and chose QUABALAH which is even more interesting western magick tradition

Shadow Side by Doris Beddlesune - Sun, 10 May 2015 12:26:47 EST ID:ZeBdWVPo No.200578 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What would happen to me and my life once I've fully integrated the dark sides of my being?
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Doris Beddlesune - Tue, 12 May 2015 17:07:57 EST ID:ZeBdWVPo No.200623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So how do I handle these negative emotions? I mean, without the rampant sarcasm of course.
Doris Beddlesune - Tue, 12 May 2015 17:08:29 EST ID:ZeBdWVPo No.200624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where do I start reading Jung's works?
Lydia Pockdale - Thu, 14 May 2015 16:22:39 EST ID:2sJclTIY No.200695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i don't know where to start. But his ideas usually come out in everything he does.

The best one is probably the red book, but it's huge and i haven't read all of it. He wrote that as if he was both jrr tolkein a psycholgist, a philosopher, and just tied together alot of things that make it feel overflowing.

you could learn alot about the functions through myers briggs, i would bet you would find alot of links to other things closer to what he wrote through there, through your understanding of the functions. You can get a better picture of what the shadow and the anima/animus would look like for each broad category or personality type.

You can read about the collective vs the individual, individuation, and the collective unconcious, in even joseph campbell, and through that he makes those ideas make alot of sense.

The ego, the persona, the shadow, and the anima/animus, and then how that makes up the self and the total personality i don't know a good single work where all that is.

But everyone of those things is in the red book.

As well as the hero, the self that's connected to history, the spirit of the times, the death of the hero, and all of his understandings about symbol.
Lydia Pockdale - Thu, 14 May 2015 16:25:30 EST ID:2sJclTIY No.200696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Simon Hashdock - Thu, 14 May 2015 17:02:29 EST ID:7sJ/68Ak No.200697 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Modern Man in Search of a Soul. It's a collection of essays that provides a good introduction to his ideas.

I'm reading it now. Very interesting.

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