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no more pressure by Samuel Crittingbure - Tue, 16 Jun 2015 21:35:14 EST ID:H0iuvgD/ No.201350 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What would the world be like if people would not have to work for a living anymore?Would people be able to still accomplish much?
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Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 24 Jul 2015 17:52:59 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.201871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is the basis of the Swiss "base salary" proposition. That country largely thinks like you and would benefit from a widespread voted socialist revolution. America would definitely not.

Keep in mind that Keynes imagined a world where we would only NEED to work 15-20 hours. Whether he believed in the free-market principles of socialism is irrelevant. Both those ideals would require a highly educated and motivated populous which very few countries are in reach of.
emperorkuzco - Fri, 24 Jul 2015 19:50:16 EST ID:MvgBqzHx No.201872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
society would fall apart as we know it.
Hugh Fuckingham - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 18:22:54 EST ID:yHZPJws1 No.201875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whenever I see this argument I think of Late Bronze Age collapse. Climate changes that favored pastoralism in conjunction with the spread of ironworking spurred a mass migration of nomadic peoples and brought a rather swift end to the sedentary palace economy of the Mecenean Greece, the Hittite Empire, and the New Dynasty in Egypt. Doom, destruction, cities abandoned forever and disrupted trade routes galore. Surely a lot of people from Pylos to Gaza saw that happening and thought "this is the end of the society as we know it".
Now, nearly three millenia after all that happened, we're here and we don't seem to be any worse for the wear. Not that it happened only once. The dawn of behavioral modernity, the neolithic revolution, the invention of bronze, then iron and steel, various discoveries, plagues and invasions each have ended the society, or even the world, as the people then inhabiting it knew it.
My point is, nothing lasts forever, not even the world we live in; and from a historical perspective, the tragedy of the end of society is overrated.
Sidney Shittingwill - Sat, 25 Jul 2015 19:11:56 EST ID:iAquTtgI No.201876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
America is at that point right now we just haven't put anything in place to make it possible.

Most American jobs don't really matter, you go to work to make money to put back into the economy. Unless your job has you actually building something bigger than a sandwich and you aren't educating the public most people would contribute equally to the country if they were just given 40K a year and just spend it how they normally would for the year.

I'm sure a lot of people would just check out of society move somewhere cheap and just consume, but I've met plenty of people passionate about they work they do and if you're passionate about bettering society freeing up 40+ waking hours a week is a great way to not let the economy get in the way of bettering society.
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:11:06 EST ID:XBKiTRST No.201976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Capitalism will be a form of art instead of an economic system. Everything will turn into more of an art and less of a means to an end.

Theories of Mind by Hamilton Pickwell - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 21:28:51 EST ID:pUtySIP2 No.201784 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Forget Mad Pain (which isn't really pain) and Martian Pain (which can simply be explained by functionalism).

What theory of mind explains Phantom Limb Pain and Near-Death Experiences?
Charlotte Shittingridge - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:13:35 EST ID:fm1S8rNj No.201787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the same mechanism that causes us to dream: A falsely triggered neural impulse, possibly located within a network of noradrenaline pathways in the case of phantom near-death experience, or within the dorsal posterior insula which is now thought to be the pain-processing part of your brain. If conditions are right, the impulse sets off a cascade of neurotransmitters that manage to bubble up to your thoughts and momentarily alter alter your perception of reality.

Your brain is more sensitive to falsely triggered impulses during REM sleep, when the cerebral cortex is active enough to formulate thoughts and interact with memories. Unlike dreams however, the cascade is brief and localized in the case of phantom pain or anxiety, because the rest of the brain is awake and fully aware that it didn't really happen. The falsely triggered cascade is drowned out by a stronger torrent of impulses that carry information about reality (unless your brain happens to be wired in a particular way that causes the pain or anxiety to self perpetuate).
George Chillerbet - Tue, 21 Jul 2015 17:09:20 EST ID:AqbPm5Oi No.201833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Because nothing is real, really.

/pss/, help me find an -ism by Beatrice Lighthall - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 22:13:17 EST ID:H9K4xwF+ No.201806 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I try to be good at things like music, video games, art, but everything I do is beneath everyone else's work. I suck. This is frustrating to me because other people seem motivated to practice and better themselves. I feel like a double loser for sucking at something, and then giving up on getting better. Truly I am nobody special.

I want a philosophy that comforts me and tells me that in doing nothing, I am actually doing something. Like I am closer to the 'truth', that in standing still and not participating in society, I am evolving toward something. I feel suicidal most of the time because I am a failure, but I want to turn that on its head and actually feel good about my life BECAUSE I have never achieved anything.

I think that hedonism is getting pleasure from physical things in life, but I am very much the opposite, I get no pleasure from life and I do not really seek out physical pleasure at all. So scratch that one.

Can you offer me some philosophies to make me feel better about being ADHD/depressed and giving it up? Thanks guys.
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Doris Bisslelitch - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 07:34:05 EST ID:gHvCsT5H No.201817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
to put a long story short they were the people that solved the problem of self image with out throwing it away
Esther Bebblehot - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 20:52:22 EST ID:vWvBiMC9 No.201823 Ignore Report Quick Reply

OP maybe try rebalancing your seratonin levels through better:
  • nutrition and eating habits
  • sunlight
  • exercise

Instead of looking for a philosophy to make you feel more content about things.

If you're unhappy and or depressed and or unable to make or maintain meaningful progress towards your goals then you should probably consider something real and probably lifestyle-related as the cause.
Shitting Gorrybury - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 21:46:44 EST ID:dDfmtX5x No.201824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Daoism, my friend, Daoism.

Read the Zhuangzi, Yi Jing, and the Dao De Jing for starters.

Here's a good translation of the Dao De JIng:
Angus Crinkinshaw - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 21:13:05 EST ID:D8tJ5vV5 No.201828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Daoism aka Self-Honestyizm
Frederick Battingput - Tue, 21 Jul 2015 13:03:26 EST ID:lPLz/e1I No.201832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> want a philosophy that comforts me and tells me that in doing nothing, I am actually doing something. Like I am closer to the 'truth', that in standing still and not participating in society, I am evolving toward something.

Good news for you, this is how the universe works by default! Nowhere to go, Nothing to do, No one to be.

Do you feel no pleasure ever doing anything, or do you feel no pleasure from your every day life currently? Do you think you would be happier living out of a tent in the woods fishing for your food? You can do this. It's okay to. It's actually more or less how we should be living.

Do you like all the modern appliances we are able to take advantage of and feel like you can't live without them? Then there is a price to pay. Putting aside all of the corruption or just general incompetence that can lead to your access of these services being delayed:

Modern living is really expensive. Where is all of your electricity and gas going to come from? Are you going to generate it all yourself? You need to source it from somewhere. You would have to balance your resource collection with the enjoyment of everything you are powering with said resources. It would be a lot of work.

Hence a society forms, creating social contracts to provide itself with resources and essentially alternating sleep cycles while the other half of the earth enjoys their commodities.

It's easy in an environment like ours to feel like something is expected of you, being born into this society which works tirelessly to provide resources you have been using your entire life - in fact our society is notorious for promoting the idea that you could not possibly live without these resources, or without this sense of owing someone something.

But you really don't owe anyone anything. If someone walks up to me and hands me a months worth of gas, I now own a months worth of gas. I owe this person nothing. They were well aware of that when they handed me the gas. You never give someone anything unless they are giving you something at the same time, else you should expect not to see it again.
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Defending something as true by George Blackway - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 08:34:04 EST ID:AMuoaqW5 No.201825 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What does it mean to defend?

What is the reason we would have to defend a truth? Are we in the position where we have to defend something that is true or so because an argument against it threatens to erase that? How could an argument have efficacy against something that is true, and how could the truth be unconvincing.
Phineas Murdworth - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 09:10:48 EST ID:fm1S8rNj No.201826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because people are often afraid of the truth, so they ignore it or even attack it. The truth must be defended against these people, because ignorance can be harmful to society.
Alice Simblewell - Mon, 20 Jul 2015 15:02:48 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.201827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, the truth is something we can never find. However, we can find that which is false and narrow down our results. For instance, ask me if I'm a man or a woman and I'll tell you I'm definitely not a woman and have no more than 1 working set of a cock and balls and no other sex organs. With this information, it's pretty easy to see that there's a huge spectrum of things I absolutely am not, and only a small spectrum of things that I could be, including a man.

But what if I looked super feminine? What if I had all feminine features, plus a working cock and balls only? In that situation, claiming to be a man would be unconvincing. People would require proof that I'm not a woman, therefore I'd have to show them my lack of breasts and my lack of a vagina and my set of a cock and balls.

But now let's imagine that I have all those things but I refer to myself as a female. Since I would look more like a female than a male, even though I'm a man, I could just claim to be female and no one would ask for evidence, they'd just assume it as true even though it's not.

Also, the truth becomes unconvincing the deeper it is. See, the simpler something is, the more likely to be correct it is, because it's 'correct' falls into a larger gamut. For instance, if you say that day is when the sun is up and night is when the sun is down, it becomes so easy to claim whether it is day or night. But now let's say the sun is exactly halfway down; now is it day or night? Well, now we've fallen out of the gamut and we're wrong in saying it's day or night; both seemingly simple and correct answers have become wrong thanks to adding details to the dilemma. So we end up with a new term; twilight. There's day, night and twilight. But even then, you can still break things down more. You've got sun up, sun down, etc. The more we add to a question, the smaller the gamut of 'correct' becomes. Do you see?

Now let's talk about defending a truth. The fact is, anything true has no contradictions. None whatsoever. That's why you have to defend it. Especially because people can be illogical. For instance, you say it…
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Female genital mutilation? by Simon Gashson - Sat, 02 May 2015 18:18:53 EST ID:USgViPKT No.200219 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are SOME forms of female genital mutilation basically okay? Or are all forms wrong?
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Hugh Clishstone - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 00:19:47 EST ID:lNO1U2bu No.201802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Circ since birth here, my penis isn't "broken" whatsoever plus this a thread about FEMALE genital mutilation, which is not only done for entirely different reasons (preserve virginity) but also includes slicing the fuck out of labia and sewn together as a gift for her sand husband on their wedding night.

Anyway, as pious westerners we look down on them for doing this but talk to any chick from Sierra Leone, who likely had her skittle and "extra" labia lopped off as most of the population has, and they all seem to like it. They can still orgasm, and consider their trimmed vag's to be aesthetically pleasing. I have no idea why but if you ignore all the western noise and actually talk to the girls who've had it done they would do it again.

Obviously holding down a 13yr old girl and hacking at her pussy with a razor in the bush is a completely dubious practice but whatever, it's their culture. Also in that pic, I don't think the Himba practice FGM, it's mainly islamic tribes only.
Ebenezer Tillingville - Sat, 18 Jul 2015 08:33:16 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Obviously holding down a 13yr old girl and hacking at her pussy with a razor in the bush is a completely dubious practice but whatever, it's their culture
Opinion disregarded
Hugh Fublinglid - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 00:09:49 EST ID:rTsGhC9N No.201810 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Himba practice both male and female circumcision.

>Both boys and girls are circumcised before reaching puberty. During the circumcision boys should be silent and girls are encouraged to scream.
Hugh Fublinglid - Sun, 19 Jul 2015 00:24:54 EST ID:rTsGhC9N No.201811 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The thread is about both and has been for a while.

The idea that "female genital mutilation" is one operation, that always involves extreme measures such as sewing shut the vaginal opening, is false. It's something that's easily proven false with ten to fifteen minutes of research on this subject.

It's a whole host of operations, some of which are objectively less severe than peri'ah, and some of which are much more severe.

Thai-style female circumcision is much less severe than the male circumcision we have in the US.

The kind where they basically annihilate the vagina is obviously much more severe than American-style circumcision.

There are various motivations for fgm, just as there are for mgm.
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Cyril Shittingham - Thu, 23 Jul 2015 12:50:18 EST ID:hrhWCDKT No.201851 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Interesting video of infant female circumcision.

Metaphysics by Nell Lightdale - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 00:11:57 EST ID:HK0rLC24 No.201770 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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As it turns out, I know jack all about metaphysical philosophy and I want to get beyond just scraping the surface. Would anyone mind recommending some books?
I think, from what I know, I side more so with idealists so any solid intro to idealism would be great too.

Also general metaphysics discussion because why not.
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Phoebe Brubberfoot - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 13:18:46 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>It isn't a well defined law of nature yet, therefore it can't be true and we should all just shut up about it, right

This is a guy who takes advantage of the ignorance of the masses, throwing the little letters before his name around so he can sell books. Almost nobody understands QM, so they don't know he's fucking with them when he throws out theory after theory. He's not trying to open minds or anything, he's just a bad science fiction writer.
Sleeper Agent - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:43:20 EST ID:KNy10KTw No.201794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would have stuff to discuss but i need to take a dab and sleep instead. So here's a verse.

Bridgin the gap between ideals, dreams and reality with logic, showin you the silver linings, you bet that my lyrical style is quite like the gat of a metaphysiologist. Ya better call a psychologist cuz I just tore your psyche a-part at the heart of the matter like a cardiologist. For starters I can go on and on and chop up bars that ain't even hard I ain't get started yet tho home boy I don't flex exercise to me is having sex from Vegas to Texas all day ain't small minded just asleep but I do get retarded (just like y'all. Ye. Peace and love; believe in your dreams and you never will fall.)
Sleeper Agent - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 14:53:46 EST ID:KNy10KTw No.201795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Huh. I usually have a poem or something. Not that i've ever posted on here under this name or on this board before. Thanks if you read that. Sorry for being lazy I've just been up 72 hours so whoever read that please bear with me here. Good night to everyone from around 12:00 PM PST. This dab is to all of you. Cheers.
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 18:55:37 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.201798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah b. He's probably just Japanese.
Phoebe Musslekog - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 20:46:15 EST ID:timMRMLo No.201799 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What a quick witted cryptic, not compressed in his butt. I wouldn't be adverse to see this Trojan horse strut. Bridging the gap as if he were the black eyed peas and having sex in Las Vegas wearing out all the knees. You're not angry but I'm quite depressed holding onto what you perceive is truly a test.

Edgebert. The Edges of the Edgy. by Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Sun, 28 Jun 2015 12:34:37 EST ID:lJKwg7RK No.201503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys, can we provide a full deconstruction of what it means to be Edgy?

Then can we ask why certain people are like this? It gets rather aggravating after a certain time because they sound like they're 12 bragging about their Neopets account.
Are chronic liars an intense form of Edgeberts? Can we draw rational from those liars to explain the Edgelords? I don't think it's a consistent "wanting to be better" or "I'm a special snowflake". I just think it's more than that.

Help me look into the minds of these Bismuth Collectors.
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Edwin Fushkack - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:35:16 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>putting a message at the very top of a page
>not seeking attention

Sure and I guess walking onto a stage infront of a thousand people isn't seeking attention
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:37:32 EST ID:lJKwg7RK No.201780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Attention whores don't deserve attention - this is why they actively seek it out. Their thoughts have little to no substance with very little evidence to back it up.

No, it's not. If 1000 people are there, they are there for a reason. You may or may not deserve the attention that the 1000 people are giving you, but the 1000 people think you deserve it.
To attention whore is to go up to a same stage of 1000 people and try and impress them with bullshit unrelated to why they are there.

^__^. Herro CFT! <3
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:38:32 EST ID:lJKwg7RK No.201781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Their thoughts have little to no substance with very little evidence to back it up.
I'm going to retract this statement. I don't think that line of thinking is correct.

Rather, it brings me back to my original question on what an Edgelord is. I think I'm getting good headway with figuring them out - what say the rest of you?
Martin Bunwater - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 18:43:16 EST ID:Ah43RqcL No.201782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Let me tell you, I've dropped some real edgy shit from time to time at different places, usually assuming that what I've said won't be connected to the persona that I am.
Why? Because entertainment, and the fact that nobody else will. The edgy statements and things I've said and done have had little intellectuality to them, but they usually have that "lmao wut" element to them.
So what I think means to be edgy? It's like taking your stream of consciousness thinking and cutting through it with whatever I've got to say or present like a sharp blade would cut through flesh. The edgier it gets, the harder it is for you to ignore it and get back to whatever you were on to before the edgyness.

The reason I've been doing it as often as I've done it is probably because of what I'd call "middle-ages" of internet, ~2001-2006 or so. This was when internet in general wasn't taken as seriously as it is taken now. I remember people within the certain depths on internet were rambling about and generally expressing the crazyness of human nature more freely, because nobody cares. Nowadays everything is being tried to tie to another persona, and shit is being taken personally like the whole internet now is Facebook. Now the general population have found their way to these depths of the internet and started to 'regulate' it by their own means - because they find shit like this annoying and unnecessary and so on, as if the internet now is an extra room in their house.

Now you could say "well go find somewhere else with your kind" but this wouldn't work anymore anywhere else because of what I pointed up in the first place. Place where everybody's edgy, there's no real edgyness anymore, because it's now the norm.

You're right in saying it's a way of attention whoring, but for way different reasons. When usually attention whoring takes place, it's for approval, validation and being seen as better than others. Being edgy is more than often grabbing attention for purely entertainment reasons. Making statements for the shock value and so on. It's like a type of trolling, except instead of making peop…
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Graham Wenderfield - Fri, 17 Jul 2015 05:25:03 EST ID:gHvCsT5H No.201789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how do you think the person on the stage found themselves there, if they had to work on to get to that stage didn't they have to seek it.

This isn't a position saying they deserve the stigma associated with attention whores or the idea of being needy associated with it.

It's saying they were chasing that opportunity. And looking for a certain set of eyes to be on them.

That's what i think is key they wanted a CERTAIN set of eyes.

Dreaming of being recognized a certain way does play apart in self realization.

It's the same kernel of identity that aspires to be what it feels it truly is. Perhaps its naive but it's not untrue.

Somebody wanting to be a musician, to reach a moment in a dream they have had. Experiences a longing to do that. Perhaps the harder the road, and the numerous doubts and even realizations that it won't happen increase that desire to the point of desperation.

Certainly the same set of people that have been given attention, from another person independent of anything the individual getting the attention asked for or sought as a great speaker, musician, writer and so on had at one point or another been identified as a delusional attention whore approval seeker.

Police by Samuel Denderstock - Fri, 03 Jul 2015 14:17:07 EST ID:GMWegQdf No.201550 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is the outrage justified? Corruption en masse? What is /pss/'s view of the police force in the U.S.A.?
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Nell Benderlotch - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 16:49:51 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201761 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Stats back it up, it's getting worse
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 17:16:15 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.201762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As we mentioned, just because people say and report it more (the basis of stats) does NOT mean it's happening more.
Another example:
Stats are backing up the increase in people with autism - more people are being diagnosed with autism. But that's only because we've extended the definition of autism. There is no concise report on how autism is surging.

Much like how there is no concise report on how police brutality and killings are increasing. Back in the old days, police could beat up a hobo and no one would report it or claim it even if someone witnessed it. Nowadays, we have people with cameras running around to offer solid, recorded proof.
Nell Benderlotch - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:59:45 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cellphones and CCTV do not factor into this, the data is based on what is collected and published by law agencies themselves. Unless you're going to tell me that most of those killings were recorded by passersby, or that the police are now inflating the numbers on paper, this isn't relevant.

>Another example
Red herring, dismissed
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:58:56 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.201768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's what I meant. Now, cops can't just do one thing and claim another. Random murders of hobos being on thing or different claimed fatalities being another.

Reviewing my metaphor, I think it's suitable for this situation. If you expand the ways to catch x into situation y, you will have more x's in the situation because your scope has been widened. Regardless, if you understand my prior sentence, then it should be fine.
Edwin Fushkack - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 13:36:42 EST ID:YSxZ3IUi No.201779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>That's what I meant
That's a very bold claim, I see no evidence supporting it.

ITT: post random musings by Lillian Nunkinford - Sun, 14 Jun 2015 04:06:23 EST ID:QxPnbnzp No.201321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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doesn't matter if you thought it out, just things that flow and come to mind

>You are a god. Your reason in existence is to create a more, powerful, and better god than yourself (infinite).
how do you go about doing so?
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Molly Cuvingville - Mon, 15 Jun 2015 11:30:30 EST ID:QxPnbnzp No.201340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
good angle though
what if you created the /worst/ version of a god to rule your people for a given amount of time, and then give him the power to think and act for himself and let him rule as he would see fit

would God then just, define his infinite power, find a limit, and create something outside of it?
That's how I envision God, something that doesnt really change, but instead changes by creating another one of himself that is beyond what he currently is
Samuel Crittingbure - Tue, 16 Jun 2015 20:29:19 EST ID:H0iuvgD/ No.201346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Learn, experience and develop.
Cornelius Horringterk - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 20:45:52 EST ID:Wpp653VW No.201767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No matter what you did, you at least did it better than someone else would've.
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 02:18:16 EST ID:2u8h97L5 No.201774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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When you try not to think, the only thing to do is listen to some faraway person say "You have to say that." or discuss septic system breakdowns, until you begin to do the same.
CrazyFolksTribe !loJSOMZg0g - Thu, 16 Jul 2015 23:36:25 EST ID:2u8h97L5 No.201788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There are more grammatical errors in that sentence than I want to see. ningún bumpo

On Philosophy by Phoebe Draffingwill - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 14:22:48 EST ID:nw42qhub No.201684 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Philosophy is never best discussed on the internet, in person and face to face is always more honest as to what the person can compose in their speech, think out and understand. Written communication allows room for verbal bells and whistles that wouldn't exist in a conversation of two people in the same area. This is why there's so much slander on the internet, because people are allowed to lick their incorrect semantic popsicles over and over until they can find a way to pledge strokes on a keyboard in such a pattern that makes it not wrong or maybe not unethical to them. Use your mouth instead if you want to make an impact.
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Hedda Goblingsuck - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 19:23:02 EST ID:FR6cHjmN No.201694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're interested in the limitations of communication depending on the medium used, check out Hakim Bey's Immediatism. Language has plenty of room for distortion and misunderstanding, especially without the subtle messages of body language and tone of voice. Hakim advocates direct interaction as the purest form of interaction but even that has limitations depending how people relate. A theatrical play versus a movie in theaters is a good example of different mediated forms. On stage there's a reciprocal relationship between audience and actors, each time isn't quite the same as the time before. In contrast a movie is always the same.
Fucking Blunderdick - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:16:53 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.201703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>How come debates are always such absolute drivel then?

I think it's mostly because of how there's more motivation to avoid conflict when you're face to face with somebody vs a persistently recurring, mysteriously-generated anonymous block of text.

I actually think text-based discussion is better. It develops one's ability to say what you mean without relying on context and non-verbal language and it allows one to process and think about what people are saying multiple times, which can help one understand what a person is saying beyond surface level speech.
Reuben Wanderville - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 21:49:49 EST ID:chD4CFxl No.201704 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Sure, because I'm going to have a huge affect on the world...

Excuse me sir, but I think you mean "effect"
Reuben Pavingshit - Sun, 12 Jul 2015 11:27:02 EST ID:YVFgXrPz No.201724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This right here is why I think its actually better to debate online.

In person, you make you case, which is composed of many bullet points. In person, its hard to remember and address each point individually, while on the internet you can do what this guy did right here, address each one.
Shitting Sishdock - Wed, 15 Jul 2015 10:40:21 EST ID:lPLz/e1I No.201755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would agree but only under an (at least attempted) professional debate environment. Try having a civil debate with someone on the subway. Most of my friends are incapable / uninterested in holding certain debates. There's always some guy on the internet who will challenge my opinion even if neither of us know what the fuck we're talking about.

Religious persecution by Charles Darringman - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 07:30:15 EST ID:chD4CFxl No.201679 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What religious group do you think is the one that has been most persecuted in history?

Jews? Christians? or others?
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Caroline Darthood - Mon, 13 Jul 2015 15:20:46 EST ID:/NcM5PKy No.201743 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>The only thing Jews did as a tribe of people was try to have there own identity preserved

That statement is clearly self-contradictory.

If you have a tribal identity, then obviously you do other things as a tribe than simply try to preserve that identity. Otherwise there'd be no identity to preserve.
James Fittingbanks - Mon, 13 Jul 2015 17:43:48 EST ID:dhrbwn0+ No.201744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly, I think if any group goes around calling themselves the chosen people of god, they're asking for trouble.
Oliver Gettingstock - Tue, 14 Jul 2015 05:00:21 EST ID:gHvCsT5H No.201745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i thought you would understand that "the only things jews did as a tribe" was the only things jews did as a tribe to provoke anti semitism.
Molly Claystock - Tue, 14 Jul 2015 08:59:44 EST ID:/NcM5PKy No.201747 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You should have specified.
Nell Smallbury - Tue, 14 Jul 2015 15:54:14 EST ID:MuSqf3VU No.201749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was pretty specific

Responsibility by Eliza Senderridge - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 03:03:32 EST ID:WRNM758m No.201638 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How should we assign blame and credit?

If an idiot accidentally saves ten peoples' lives, does he deserve praise for a mere accident?

Inversely, if he accidentally kills ten people, does he truly bear the blame for his mistake?
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Alice Ducklefield - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 20:44:55 EST ID:fm1S8rNj No.201647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because it sets an example for the rest of society. It isn't the accident he is being praised for, but the act of doing a good deed. It isn't the accident he is being punished for, but the negligence that resulted in deaths.
Eliza Mimbletuck - Thu, 09 Jul 2015 01:10:47 EST ID:chD4CFxl No.201656 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>It isn't the accident he is being praised for, but the act of doing a good deed

But he didn't consciously "do a good deed". He stumbled into it.

>It isn't the accident he is being punished for, but the negligence that resulted in deaths.

But he's an idiot. He is negligent by nature because of his low intelligence, and he can't have helped that.
Jarvis Wengershaw - Thu, 09 Jul 2015 16:18:07 EST ID:gHvCsT5H No.201661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you have to define what he did. And what doing is vs what was meant to be done.

Form you're description, you're critquing the way he dit it, but not denying that he did do it.
Bombastus !!DIWLhnT7 - Thu, 09 Jul 2015 17:41:41 EST ID:2fcbIenj No.201664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kierkegaardian morals dictate:
-We must respect the conscious decisions of others.
-Those only deserve grandeur if they meant to do it.
-Continue to think good and your odds of doing good are increased but can never be guarenteed. Google: Thomas Midgely Jr. He's a PRIME example of someone wanting to do Good but failed so hard that he is responsible for a whole generation of kids with asthma and the depletion of our ozone layer.
-Continue to think bad and your odds of doing evil are increased but can never be guarenteed. Google: Fritz Haber. In an attempt to create mass explosions used to kill the axis in WWI, he managed to feed 90% of the world by creating artificial fertilisers. In an attempt to create more potent nerve gases and blistering agents, he managed to create a lot of household agents that we use today.

In the end, it's not what you do - it's what you think as you are accomplishing the task that matters. Everything else will fall in line and those that don't are statistically irrelevant. And as Kierkegaard also points out, you yourself can never truly know what you are thinking.
Fanny Minderwater - Fri, 10 Jul 2015 00:02:30 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.201672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>If an idiot accidentally saves ten peoples' lives, does he deserve praise for a mere accident?

No. My morality judges based on intent not outcome.

>Inversely, if he accidentally kills ten people, does he truly bear the blame for his mistake?

No. My morality judges based on intent not outcome.

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