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Love by Shitting Clushkotch - Wed, 15 Jun 2016 01:07:30 EST ID:aGRkxiU7 No.206207 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello fellow travelers.

The relationships i've had throughout my life have been, for the most part, dysfunctional and often one sided. I feel as though I have never truly been loved by a partner or by my peers. So I've come to you today to ask what love is to you. Have you ever been loved? How can one tell the difference between love, infatuation, desire and lust?

This question has been plaguing my mind for the past couple of weeks because I have recently found someone whom i find myself very passionate about. I truly feel as if I could spend my entire life with this person... but I'm afraid that these feelings I have could be mere desire or perhaps infatuation.

tl;dr How do I know if this love i'm feeling is real?
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Lydia Sogglebug - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:20:25 EST ID:DJSoBwlI No.206523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's only love if the sentiment is equally returned back upon you by the other person. Otherwise it is only infatuation and lust on your part.
Cornelius Greenfuck - Mon, 15 Aug 2016 00:08:52 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i would limit that to attraction and chemistry. Attraction because not all love is about the reality of mutuality, or in heidigarrian terms not all love goes along, some love is toward. Towards a being. Now in reality you may love your child and they may love you, may denoting a hypothetical situation not a questioning of that possibility, but they may return a feeling.

The return, being loved in return, getting the energy back in return, that refers to a feeling that we may desire out of a relationship with an effort towards a practice not only a person. Why can't something feel the same way back?

So unless you're worried about causing feelings of terror in someone of the opposite sex, about sex and there personal security, i would never indeed establish any precedent that the moment your love isn't returned you are not in love.
Walter Siffingstodge - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:27:17 EST ID:NnrWEb8R No.206644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This I think.

Concordantly, he can dodge ergo, bullets vis a vis.
Kocoayello !jxaL03vL/Q - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:55:22 EST ID:aq1kevQR No.206779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Love is amazing! It is free and full of laughter! It is sad and full of longing when the other is away. It is a way to make sense of the world, to see in it the beauty that really is there! Love is also very powerful, and can make great works happen. Love is God given, a gift from the Higher Planes, and connects us all within Creation.
Samuel Hunningfuck - Tue, 20 Sep 2016 07:28:34 EST ID:3gwHjft7 No.206888 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP it seems like you're insecure in other people's feelings for you. knowthatfeel.jpg
Have confidence that you're worthy of love or love people the way you would want to be loved. Also, know your love language (physical touch, acts of service, words of affirmation, quality time, receiving/giving gifts)

Humans vs Animals (where Intrinsic and Instrumental values meet) by Phoebe Fuckingdale - Fri, 09 Sep 2016 01:27:59 EST ID:M6ZpQrYI No.206724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you justify an anthropocentric view of the world? Should animals have the same fundamental rights as humans?

From a Gaia point of view, there's nothing intrinsically superior about humans that would justify half of what we entitle ourselves, but the Earth is not a living thing. From an anthropic point of view, we should always put ourselves above other species in the same way other species should put themselves above each other. Which is not to say we must permit genocide, or the destruction of habitats, or even impose our superiority in any way, but our needs should mean more than anything else in the long run. Don't you agree?
From this perspective, it would make sense to raise animals for food, for example, even though they are also living beings with feelings, intelligence and culture. But we must still respect that they are also living beings with feelings, intelligence and culture, and enforce dietary alternatives and sustainable consumption of animal products.

What are your thoughts on the matter?
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I AM THE LAW - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 05:41:42 EST ID:OoTYAE4u No.206769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>he had done the opposite, maybe he would have lived, but it would not have mattered

Hahaha. So no one would give a shit if Yahweh didn't brutally murder his son. Makes sense his followers are insane.

Look. Even the Jews and the Muslims believe in Lex Talionis same with Buddhists. How do you think they survived for so long? They do know when to give up though but they try to keep to themselves because almost every religion or group of people has been demonized time and time again by the Christians because they won't stop not being like Jesus, am I right?


>If you survive at the expense of everyone else, have you really survived at all?
Of course, you have. Your heart is still pumping. What a dumb question.

>What will it matter?
You survived! Now you can go home and take care of that family of yours, continue on your way to your job. You survived the encounter and fought back.

And if someone steals from you just call the cops, shit. Get them jailed. And if they can't get your shit back do it yourself! There are tons of methods but you think we should outlaw lex talionis in order to reach a peaceful world? That sounds a bit like a fucking authoritarian dystopia, like Yahweh wants but Lucifer didn't allow him to have.
Rebecca Sellynet - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 08:53:33 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.206772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anthropomorphic ethics don't apply to reality, they only apply to humans.
Fucking Blatherstock - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 10:51:59 EST ID:OFuMVc7+ No.206774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're a gigantic fucking retard.
Lydia Bardbanks - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 19:33:13 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Christianity is a deplorable religion, and I'm not articulating a defense of it. I'm saying that lex talionis is a barbaric ancient concept, that only has currency in the cultures you mention because they are so ancient, and it leads to severe problems in the world for rational reasons that have nothing to do with religion.

>>your heart is still pumping
You're either not considering the question or more shortsighted than I imagined. If you survive at the expense of *LITERALLY* everyone else, i.e. your country or tribe or however you want to define your ingroup has killed off literally everyone else, you would have destroyed the planet so thoroughly that your group itself would not be able to survive much longer. Killing your enemy at the expense of yourself is by definition a Pyrrhic victory.

>take care of that family of yours
again, if you follow lex talionis to it's conclusion, your family would not be able to survive, and the only reason you would not have applied lex talionis to them is because they are in your family group. If you were perfectly consistent with applying it, eventually they would be gone too. And you keep seeming to think I am talking about personal, one on one interactions. We are talking about the general principles on which to base society. Something that works in a one on one interaction might only be working because of external factors mitigating the damage, and when you apply it to society, the global effects are apparent. So why exacting equal revenge for every slight might work for a few people, if we practiced it universally as a society, everyone would eventually be dead. The only way out would be to not apply it universally, or not apply it consistently, therefore making it not a sufficient principle on which to base our society's views on the use of force, since we would have to know when and where to apply it, making it no longer a principle at all and little better than a guideline advocating revenge.

>>get your shit back
Recovering stolen property is not lex talionis. Recovering stolen property and then stealing additional property of equal value would be. Thus there still ends up having been a theft. If your e…
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Sophie Drendledale - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 10:11:51 EST ID:OoTYAE4u No.206784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're exaggerating and are making it into some bloody genocide in your head, even, it'll weed out the criminals and scumbags that roam the streets and provide nothing for human society.

ignored for trolling

The Ethics of CP by Edgewick Edgeington - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 09:15:47 EST ID:OJbm7ckc No.206699 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This thread is in response to a comment on /drank/, the new /hooch/

>I'd be okay with [child] nudity

Even if that fetish weren't fucked up in its own right, how could you be okay with content that proliferates the sexual abuse of children? Have you not considered the suffering that goes into it, do you not care, or do you have some other reason? If there is an ethical justification behind this belief, I'd be interested in hearing it.

inb4 moral relativism
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Ernest Follerwug - Sun, 11 Sep 2016 06:50:11 EST ID:Snn9qg7v No.206752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Child nudity isn't wrong. It's most probably innocent, not forced, or sexual, or any of the rest of it. Having images of that nudity isn't wrong. That's a family taking photos of their little kids having fun. They should be able to run around nude without criticism of any kind, and no one should think twice about photos that get taken.

People in our society used to get this, at some point. It used to be acceptable to show little kids nude in film; it was recognized that there was nothing sexual or wrong about it. Those same films - if they're shown now - are generally edited for those parts. It's a shame that so many people don't understand the difference.

As a single guy, I often feel singled out if I'm walking in public where there are children. People look at me with suspicion. In most cases, I wouldn't dare try to stop and talk to one of them. I know what that would look like. I find it really disheartening, because of course I'm not out to rape people. I just want to be able to speak to somebody - man, woman, or child - without others seeing sexual subtexts. Even trying to talk to a single girl (I mean someone who is of age), that always seems to be just below the surface of the conversation, whether I want it to be or not.

TL;DR, child nudity isn't harming anyone. This cultural trend of seeing sex absolutely everywhere probably causes a few problems, though.
Emma Duckshaw - Sun, 11 Sep 2016 19:24:48 EST ID:FSAozKjO No.206760 Ignore Report Quick Reply


And there are people who are still more open about nudity, and it's not really a sexual thing at all if you actually spend time around them.
Esther Hinnerridge - Sun, 11 Sep 2016 20:43:18 EST ID:Wj366uQt No.206761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You helped me to see something I had overlooked when making this thread. Nudity ≠ pornography. You also made a few great points that I can relate to.
Hedda Pigglebury - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 04:28:38 EST ID:OoTYAE4u No.206767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's context dependent. Do doctors get boners when doing breast surgery or child birth procedures? The intent is obviously the thing that matters most, why was it recorded: to sell it? for "enjoyment"? or just for a silly family memory?

>This cultural trend of seeing sex absolutely everywhere probably causes a few problems, though.

I think it's more how it's presented. Especially because it's presented so differently in porn than in real sex. It's definitely gonna confuse some people.
Jarvis Gazzleway - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 06:59:33 EST ID:FSAozKjO No.206770 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You can remember to look before you cross the street and you probably won't get hit by a car. Better choice than never leaving your house out of fear.

Bible Exegesis by Doris Wallyhig - Fri, 19 Aug 2016 01:39:52 EST ID:PRdisgsJ No.206567 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I read this bible passage in a book, and I can't put my finger on what it means

It's from Mark 7:24-29

24 Jesus left that place and went to the vicinity of Tyre.[a] He entered a house and did not want anyone to know it; yet he could not keep his presence secret. 25 In fact, as soon as she heard about him, a woman whose little daughter was possessed by an impure spirit came and fell at his feet. 26 The woman was a Greek, born in Syrian Phoenicia. She begged Jesus to drive the demon out of her daughter.

27 “First let the children eat all they want,” he told her, “for it is not right to take the children’s bread and toss it to the dogs.”

28 “Lord,” she replied, “even the dogs under the table eat the children’s crumbs.”

29 Then he told her, “For such a reply, you may go; the demon has left your daughter.”

I take it to be that even if you don't feed the 'dogs' they're still hungry and rummaging for food, so you shouldn't judge who is worthier of food or whatever
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Augustus Murdforth - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 17:34:36 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you fool i am the previous poster who had the gatekeeper exegesis.

I think what you are saying is spot on. Except the role of the free gatekeeper, as that of a guy working the panama canal and opening and closing the damn as a faciliatory and health based measure. In a wide open reality once the doubt or the thing that realizes that what ever it is that eludes us that we try to express and is intangible that we may reduce in reference to the symbol reality. Is not real or that our lives our a lie, is also the dread turning suicide tempting recongition that in reality most people try to kill the candide or the naief. That's why i also respect your posts as the fool. For the fool is one who exists by an intellectual grasping of what plato and the wisemen consider the shadow, or the part of the reality that can actually change. And he does that out of optimism yet has seen the most bitter realities.

Jesus was the naif, but he was also the artist but he had the tale inverted in that he believed he would do a great thing and that people were special, and his entire life he was aware he was protected and sheltered. This means unlike candide he did go into reality with fear. For the only secular reality about believing you are of god in some way in this context is that another sphere of influence might kill you.

When in reality Jesus is someone who saw a vision that he was going along trying to explain. Not unakin to the reality of strawberry fields. A reality expressed by an artist after having lived a more worldy life, that is both new and somehow related to a time before in this case child hood.

That's the reality of the guy in the changing space, yet there is something that he is claiming is so as well, but if he were to go and make the rounds putting his idea out into the constellationshe could easily be shown by a scholarly figure to not be smart or wise, gullible. So this point he is trying to prove in mark that he is an intellectual.

This is the one point in his vision that he can accept not every one is living by the reality that is going on in there imaginations or there heads, even though they have that reality as lived. But he only realized by seeing she was not controlled by it, which we get to understand by seeing this in iconagraphy(or a symbol revealing a symbol) she was not controlled by the stakes or implications which her fear raised.

Even though the secular reality jesus is running from is fear from though stakes. That's why in essence this is the moment they write down as the point in the faith where he accepted the people that. Because he at this point is still in order trying tell something to the world or do something to it, and it is doing something to him. But he sees in essence this can happen because this person is not controlled by the reality of their existentialities. That is exactly though why jesus is here seeking refuge, so this is an inspiration to him but it's also potentially belittling because that's the same thing he is encountering with the pharises that these issues do matter and our of relevance. But the resolution being in that she is not an opposing external existential opposite or other. Their relationship wasn't defined by there philosophical/existential/cutlural or political conflict that was in the bigger picture. Even though that is the reality that ends up killing jesus, socrates, martin luther king. This is that moment where his faith goes wait a minute i can see that i can accept this other cutural location into my faith.
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Augustus Murdforth - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:13:38 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess what i am saying is what restored jesus's naivety was not the reason in which ended up struggling with, that his intellectual entanglements were bogged down in as seemingly broken dreams or dissapointed thesises against a reality of antithesis, was not logic. But was outwardly a postive experience which contradicted the outward realities certainty in image. He technically had a one on one interaction with a character that contradicted every defined thing the world had in hostility or opposition. But this didn't take away the outward reality of these hostilities and oppositions.

It just somehow freed him intellectually from that. You say it was through rationality that let them have sovereignty over the culturally defined. And i agree that this is the space they could exist. But Jesus's mind didn't get there by a rational interaction, nor did it have to do with the rationality of the other speaker at least not in what reconciled him.

Not what reconciled the hostilities he was experiencing that led him to this retreat, yet this is the voice that speaks the healing part.

Yet this is the moment that expresses the philosophical reconcillation of what came in the old testament and what came in the new. What explained the reality of the difference.

No longer bogged down by the prexisting prejudices, while still feeling the philosophical answer to his fear. That is naive yet experienced. The threat or the invasiveness that leads to the doubt that he can not really exist in the way of subjective thought that is threatened by the definition that still exists in the world as soon as this interaction is over.

The gate keeping is no longer existing in the situatedness of the world, at least not in the way that he had to go to the capitols and argue it, which he did in the pretense, that it is in the eyes of those people, the people. Something happened that technically breaks the gate, or broke his gate. That is meant to be a teaching about that very subject.

In normal reality is it saying hey if you best me in argument, then you make it into the kingdom.
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The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 23:02:08 EST ID:G2LMnx/t No.206650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think the notion that Jesus was naive enough to be trapped within his subjectivity in context to his own religion, contradicts the reconciliation exhibited in the passage. Assuredly your interpretation is undeniably plausible, but it runs counter to the attitudes of the far majority of intellectuals in history; possessing enough dissociation from their host culture as to be able to operate separately from it. For example, without such mental disconnect Socraties would not have been able to operate outside rhetoric, but become enamored in it.

Without the dissociative perspective, the lack of naivety, there is nothing preventing Jesus from behaving like a fundamentalist, and he would not posses the mental capacity needed to advance psychologically, or reconcile with the woman. In my opinion the view that the reconciliation was that of Jesus regaining his naivety, implies a reconciliation not of two aware individuals of different faiths, but of a justification for Jesus to regress into the blind faith of his childhood. This does not agree with both the process of mental development and the image of the intellectual giants, and thus comes across as a justification for blind faith in the religious structure which the passage comes from, Christianity, which is wholly ironic because Jesus was not Christian, but a Jew.

Personally I am unable to believe that the role of gatekeeper can be achieved without this dissociation from culture, the lack of naivety, but I cannot deny that a version of Jesus who lacks this awareness is possible, and would explain his lack of foresight in anticipating the structure of the cult which followed him.
Hamilton Trotcocke - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 10:13:14 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just can't explain how he got that by the his gate breaking.
Charles Chinkinmark - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 16:14:47 EST ID:mAhcXddI No.206705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mark is not based on Q and this story is likely apocryphal considering how unlikely it was that Jesus had much to do with gentiles and how well it fits Mark's theology.

For starters, if you're going to argue biblical exegesis, you should consult the original text and use a more literal translation than the NIV (though in this case it isn't important). Fortunately, there are free interlinear bibles online:

Anyway, you're overthinking things. The woman is a gentile (Hellénis/Hellén literally means Greek, but is more or less synonymous with the word gentile in the New Testament), and asks Jesus to heal her daughter. Jesus says that the children (jews) have first dibs, because you can't throw their food (Christ) to the dogs (gentiles). She reminds him that the dogs still eat leftovers from the children and calls him "Kyrie" (Lord, or sir), which is a good enough answer for him. The emphasis of this story is not on what the dogs need, but whether they deserve it, being dogs. Thus, she says "even" to remind Jesus that the dogs nonetheless share in the meal, even if it's just scraps.

The KJV uses "yet", which carries basically the same meaning. If you want to be technical, the kai in Mark 7:28 functions as an emphatic particle, which don't have an exact equivalent in English, so really any of these work: yet, even, also, but. "Even" just sounds a bit more modern.
That being said, you shouldn't compare the KJV with modern translations like this because they are not based on the same New Testament text.

"Anyone who is not a theist is an atheist" by Martha Lightshit - Thu, 28 Jul 2016 16:24:33 EST ID:h1VT+4G5 No.206402 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is this true?
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Nigel Clirrylutch - Tue, 23 Aug 2016 16:30:40 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>theism is a form of theism in that the atheist BELIEVES that nothing beyond the depths of his possible perception exists

Did you learn that retarded shit coming out of your mouth in Sunday school?
Hugh Driblingnat - Wed, 24 Aug 2016 01:48:18 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude no one is going to take you seriously if you can't spell 6th grade level words properly. Clearly you distrust education so much because you never got any...the ignorant always fear the informed.
Edward Mazzlepork - Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:28:00 EST ID:SjHOMJsR No.206616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is believing "that nothing beyond the depths of his possible perception exists" a form of theism? Theism is a category of beliefs that involve deities, not just any ontological perspective. Atheism is a synonym for non-theism. Some atheists are empiricists too, but they're by no means the same thing. Atheists can believe in invisible ghosts, aether, love, all kinds of imperceptible things, as long as they're not deities.

What's bizarre is why people would believe in anything that can't be experienced, especially when the idea was communicated by other people who, by their own admission/definition, don't know what the hell they're talking about.
Edward Mazzlepork - Wed, 24 Aug 2016 04:34:23 EST ID:SjHOMJsR No.206617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Science is a method of problem solving
No, science = modeling. Those models can be applied to solving problems, that's engineering.

The rest of your post = tinfoil.
Hugh Driblingnat - Wed, 24 Aug 2016 15:42:52 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gonna nitpick you here. In general people don't believe in things that can't be experienced, religious and spiritual ideas emerge from experiences and our attempts to explain and understand them.
On the other hand, science induces us to accept all sorts of things that are impossible for us to directly experience. I don't think we should equate our ability to experience something and its ontological validity.

Balanced Reading? by Hamilton Cishgold - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 01:32:15 EST ID:2vYnAsTI No.206587 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I find when I seek out books to read and philosophers to study I gravitate towards those that hold ideas I ALREADY agree with, but there is no rationality behind my beliefs, simply what FEELS right and I know (think) this is flawed so what is the best way to properly study all sides of an argument? Is there a compendium of books/beliefs/philosphers that directly contrast? Is this is even sane to think? Why should I give time to philosophies I deem to be worthless?
Edward Neshlitch - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 11:10:50 EST ID:Tvwyv8LO No.206588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I suppose what feels familiar and reinforces your beliefs is easier and less challenging to read and study. Might as well say you might've created a comfort zone of philosophical ideas that you like to study, a comfort zone that you now hesitate to challenge whether because it challenges your own mindset or you have reached some sort of philosophical limit you aren't bothered about crossing. As in you might've reached a point you feel like you know enough and want to study more of what you already know and wanna go more into detail.

So I'd say if you're still really interested in philosophy, look for new readings with a fresh and open mind, as if you really know nothing of philosophy. Challenge yourself to study new ideas on a fresh canvas and don't judge or compare them to the ideas you already know until you've finished the book.
Shitting Cravingkan - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 15:23:39 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As my philosophy teacher suggested to people asking the same question, just try to find some kind of "introduction into philosophy" book.
Ebenezer Drosslekod - Sun, 21 Aug 2016 17:55:48 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're welcome.

depth psychology by Cyril Sillerridge - Thu, 11 Aug 2016 06:14:53 EST ID:WyaFltj9 No.206506 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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alright folks
you ever find yourself getting weird puzzled looks because all you can do is point out all the worlds unconscious activity?
i like studying the unconscious. who /unconcious/ here
Hamilton Bunshit - Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:03:58 EST ID:pct8Tk5P No.206516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what do you mean by "point out all the worlds unconscious activity?"
Oliver Boffingwell - Sat, 13 Aug 2016 20:29:37 EST ID:DSiCeS1e No.206517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"its windy"
Martin Danningkeck - Sat, 13 Aug 2016 22:30:06 EST ID:OoTYAE4u No.206518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've actually studied my own unconscious mind for a while. Dreams are the gateway into the unconscious. If someone where to tell you the events of their dream you could figure our what there everyday normal fears, issues, memories, it's insane what can be discovered through dreams. This was how I was able to overcome my extreme paranoia of everyday normal situations and people. I had dream for years of people trying to kill me, many other horrors, and would wake up still paranoid, unsure of what was real at this point. My dreams were so vivid. It was also through this I learned how to manipulate the world around me.

But yea, so uhhh, what about it?
Jack Gizzletot - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:02:16 EST ID:wCmfRi04 No.206520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The entire Freudian hypothesis is horseshit.
Honestly, Dianetics is a better model of the way the mind works.

Dream Analysis in particular is a load of shit. It's like people who get deeply into divination-- it's a trap, it's giving over your mental faculties to random bullshit, letting a bunch of cards or sticks make all your decisions.
Simon Sublingmidging - Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:48:50 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you're trolling us right?

Freemasonry by Phoebe Duffinglere - Fri, 15 Jul 2016 03:52:54 EST ID:bxCBzIYK No.206344 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can anyone well acquainted with the actual beliefs of the group help to explain to me the gist of what is practiced/believed?

I don't mean the insane bullshit people say they believe, but what's actually believed by the majority of the adherents. I spent a while reading online but most people are just crazy conspiracy theorists or people inside the group who seem very defensive. I'm legitimately curious but cannot find any clear resources.

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Emma Gemmlesit - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 12:33:34 EST ID:zCIn+JE0 No.206464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Freemasonry is a beginners set of esoteric symbols and moral values that straighten the path of the community. The symbolic morality it makes the teaches a heavy heart , yet a strong warrior.
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>>206462 You mean being a mind slave to the Jew Rockefeller and V for Vendetta which was made in order to flourish the Chinese Revolution, Time Warner branded Gay Fawkes that likes to jack his little dick off in his sleep while he crys about how the KGB brainwashed him with a well thought Jew commie plan. Roth and Rockefeller should of been shot in the head with a luger a long time ago...good job your a fucking puppet..go to a fucking OP rally and cluk a chuck you fucking Jew.
Emma Gemmlesit - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 13:04:44 EST ID:zCIn+JE0 No.206467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably watched a lot of Nickelodeon when you where little, fucking faggot.
Simon Sublingmidging - Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:45:58 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude you are so wrong about most of this but I just want to point out how stupid it is to say freemasons came before jews. The whole symbolism of free masonry is based on the concept of building Solomon's temple, it developed in the medieval period out of stone mason guilds that is true, but do you realize that stone masonry as a technology didn't exist when the jewish faith was started nearly 2,000 years earlier?

My theology by Charles Dammerfure - Mon, 08 Aug 2016 19:32:15 EST ID:Uuvr0TwO No.206484 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It is understandable if one does not believe in God because the truths that would warrand belief in him are not supported by physical evidence.
Thus one must use deductive reasoning...
A question of yore;
“How was life created?”
It was either by a good or evil governing principle.
The innocence of children is something to consider when pondering the beginnings of life.
Temptation is what guides someone’s free will toaward the good or the evil.
The good is of the beautiful, but evil can, and does, purport beauty.. To steal immortal souls...
To make them permanently evil in order to fortify an evil satanic governing principle.
Free will is what determines your fate....
There is manifest evil in the world. The cause of evil is the lack of a unfying principle...
A unifying principle of love, and a love of the good.
God would be the good...
And the good is of love.
“Love is the ferry between mortality and immortality” -PLATO
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Graham Gundleset - Tue, 09 Aug 2016 15:54:48 EST ID:NuLSgom7 No.206492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I kind of see what's your idea - in short that good is love, love is unity and unity is God.
But it also brings up a lot of quetions that I don't know if I even wanna bother asking (and they don't concern the proof of God).

However here's one for example
>How was life created?
>It was either by a good or evil governing principle.
Why would there be a bias? Why wouldn't it be completely unbiased? As in every individual lifeform being a little experiment in the infinite cosmos.

The biggest problem I have with OP is the simplistic concept of the duality of good/bad and the "lawful" limitations of our experience of this ultrahuge universe.
Jack Gizzletot - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 17:03:48 EST ID:wCmfRi04 No.206521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Innocence of children?
What children are innocent? I remember my own childhood, and my peers, and I've dealt with and helped raise kids myself, they are fucking criminal as hell.
They are basically wild animals. That's not innocent, that's ignorant.
Simon Sublingmidging - Tue, 16 Aug 2016 07:39:58 EST ID:0aDGMcny No.206531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>It was either by a good or evil governing principle.
Why? How? Principles are concepts humans have, they do not exist in nature (nature has 'constants' perhaps but we can only comprehend them as principles i.e. mathematically.) Your argument is entirely circular. A 'governing principle' would be God, right? So you're saying the reason God must exist is that God exists and is either good or evil. This is dumb. /thread

Problematics and Mathematics; A Display of Proofs. by Emma Gemmlesit - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 12:29:14 EST ID:zCIn+JE0 No.206463 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Within our society of today's America being ripped apart by an enabing concept that is two sides of the same coin. Our current values have been dwindling into a tug of war. This tug of war at the fabric of our children between communism and socialism makes everybody trying to grow a foundation mentally and physically impossible. There is another way, that way is only take by the path of warriors. Truth, mortality and justice for the oppressed are the ways which I value. To be the execution and punisher of ignorances, moral decay. Manipulators and heartache is what the greedy value. But, the wise warrior values truth in abundance over lavish expenses. The path of the Kamikaze, Samurai, Bishedo and chivalry. The ignorant value meat and slaughter, but the wise hangs a plow share from his neck and carries this burden. It was the way of the Ninja. The path of the scales, Libra and Capricorn. A rich man with no scar has nothing to sing about in his heart. The destroyer and illuminated, a path best served cold. Because, revenge is a sweet dish when it is truth.
Beatrice Hazzlehit - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 23:30:47 EST ID:j46/6F10 No.206473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>our society of today's America being ripped apart

>everyone is stupid and ignorant except for meee

I'm sorry, I couldn't see the point of your thread through all these false assumptions.
Basil Guffingspear - Mon, 08 Aug 2016 06:52:28 EST ID:hvs4h/ox No.206476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You must be a ronin.

Being a fife who is freed from his lord. Whether that lord is abstract or in a social class.

This is the reality of knowing.

You're honor is scared, neigh Your honor is born, an it sees the reality of the thief. the one who by command was punished from your macro group.
Ayn Rand - Mon, 08 Aug 2016 08:53:22 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.206477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This OP is full of far-out assumptions.
He's being more poetic than philosophical. I think if he tried to make his statement less-pretty and more-informational we'd be able to have a better conversation with him.

>Engravings give you no tactical advantage whatsoever.
Phyllis Blissleforth - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 23:10:05 EST ID:11SaPaaE No.206645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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oh no

Why exist? by Shitting Bollerworth - Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:56:21 EST ID:1iJ/Y3fp No.205743 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why should I not kill myself?
Why should you not kill yourselves?
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Augustus Pickshit - Tue, 05 Jul 2016 03:10:53 EST ID:0CAwG8zC No.206284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Read your camoo (start with the greeks)
Kaoru Starkid - Tue, 12 Jul 2016 22:41:40 EST ID:i5L/IC+0 No.206336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What is that source?

Grinding my teeth as I’m pedaling uphill,
The fight against ape-hood is slave vs. free will.
We think we’ll advance, but there’s nowhere to go;
Mammals stay captive to animal actions.
So slowly, we climb up this DNA brick wall,
Addicted to emptiness, anger, and pitfalls.
Desire for space – territorial lust;
We’ll eventually turn this whole planet to dust.

  • Eyedea
Charlotte Durrylere - Fri, 29 Jul 2016 12:32:08 EST ID:jBNmwoV8 No.206405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Are you sure you will never ever grow to regret that decision?

Well, yeah
Since you're dead
Esther Demmlehodge - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 16:18:24 EST ID:t6MSIlrw No.206426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>206336 speaking of Eyedea and existentialism: https://youtu.be/qP7StTfEDqw
Nathaniel Blangerridge - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 21:26:15 EST ID:jLRPt4X3 No.206459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
killing yourself takes too much feelings, time and energy so its a negative, most people won't do it unless needed.

Self and neo-evolution by brotank - Sat, 09 Jul 2016 14:43:00 EST ID:36eM0bWF No.206296 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So /pss/, I've been thinking about evolution in the context of the "self". We're all taught in high school biology that evolution via natural selection happens on a population wide scale over the course of a large amount of time, but when looking at the evolution of human society this doesn't seem to be the case.
For about 80% of evolutionary time the earth was only inhabited by single celled organisms, but around 640 million years ago evolution skyrocketed making a large leap forward in a relatively short amount of evolutionary time. We see this happen again at the formation of mammals as the dominate organism on the planet, all happening within 20 million years or so of the extinction of the dinosaurs. And in the last 100,000 years (a blink of an eye to evolutionary time) we humans have managed to create more in the ways of advanced life than all 4.5 billions years prior. My theory is that existence will always give rise to evolution, and evolution will act on the population until its give rise to consciousness . When consciousness is created, evolution via natural selection becomes obsolete (in the context of the individual, evoluton via natural selection still acts on lesser organisms) and evolution instead acts upon the consciousness of the individual. The end goal of this action is to elevate the consciousness to such a level that existence is unnecessary, and upon reaching that state the consciousness has achieved "ascension" and ceases to exist on the physical realm that it existed on before.
Tl;DR: Evolution is acting on humans in a newer, quicker, way that is aimed at achieving personal ascension.
Thoughts on this theory would be nice, and cheers mates
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Emma Nerryfield - Sat, 16 Jul 2016 07:04:50 EST ID:hQHbxael No.206354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
E.Pn ???
Esther Hottingway - Sun, 17 Jul 2016 09:11:24 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Evolution can best be described as a cascading relationship between genetics and environment, constantly are affecting each other.

Yeah, that's true but really ignorable in this discussion. I mean, how bacteria started creating oxygen in prehistoric times has little value in this discussion, unless I'm missing something.
Ian Shakeson - Tue, 19 Jul 2016 22:57:41 EST ID:j46/6F10 No.206371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Phoebe Hengerchodge - Mon, 25 Jul 2016 06:57:48 EST ID:DCeBW/tY No.206395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seemed like a worthwhile refutation to the "evolution is all genes" assertion.
Ebenezer Goodford - Mon, 25 Jul 2016 08:34:21 EST ID:aEaeNBh+ No.206396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's irrelevant within the context of people seeing evolution as some kind of mental process.

Evolution only deals with genes. It might occasionally cause geological processes, but those events (while incredibly important) have nothing to do with this discussion.

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