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Gnosticism by Graham Benderford - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 14:39:52 EST ID:1peJZS51 No.197604 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How come this religion didn't get to be so popular?

I know it's not exactly just one religion but I mean the whole demiurge-satan-lucifer-real God thing.
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Fucking Nicklehet - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 22:17:50 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.197610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197604

Politics.
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Jack Hubberperk - Tue, 06 Jan 2015 00:33:05 EST ID:YVFgXrPz No.197611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197604
Wasn't gnosticism surpressed early in the church's history?
Because I am pretty sure it was big back in the day, but the catholic church heirarchy saw it as a threat.

Weren't the Cathar's a gnostic sect?
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Jenny Febberdone - Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:32:19 EST ID:9bQMyCn8 No.197654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197607
Yeah, I would agree with this. From what I understand, there is no gnostic thinking in the Bible, and the NT argues against gnosticism, but gnostic ideas have entered into mainstream Christian thought because of tradition. Ideas such as the immortal soul, and the body being evil, and treating God like he's Santa Claus, that don't appear in the Bible but are still regarded as Christian by some.

To answer OP's question, I suppose gnosticism never became that popular because it's fundamentally pretty exclusive, it's based on the idea that there is some secret knowledge that needs to be learnt to gain salvation. That's how I understand it at least.
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Jenny Febberdone - Wed, 07 Jan 2015 14:33:39 EST ID:9bQMyCn8 No.197655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197611
I don't know if it was suppressed. It was never that popular to start with. Some ideas got absorbed by the early church though and continue on til today.
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Clara Bluvingbanks - Thu, 08 Jan 2015 11:13:29 EST ID:54PBc7Id No.197662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>inb4 atheists pull that shit where they say 'Theism is to Atheism as Gnosticism is to Agnosticism'.
Fucking retards.


I smoke pot by Sidney Ballercocke - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 23:04:34 EST ID:HAlhHi/j No.197585 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Watching the smoke come off a stick of burning incense I notice how the smoke starts out very uniform and precise.
It always follows itself, no matter how the air the moves it, it doesn’t break up.
However as the smoke rises to a higher position it starts to spiral out of control and break up.
The smoke does not stop existing, it just comes to point a point where it has spread out to occupy more space.
Death is not an end, but an expansion.
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Samuel Gunderspear - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:06:47 EST ID:nhLsZOhD No.197586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Death is not an end, but an expansion.

Only if you are cremated.
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Priscilla Shakewater - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 00:23:06 EST ID:sD2gDyJI No.197587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Walking down the abandoned rails while smoking, I've become pretty good at keeping my balance on the rail. My balance is good enough to go long distances on a single rail, without stepping down and I don't have to think about how to do it, or how I learned to do it. All I need to focus on is the next five to seven steps or so, and take a step after step, slowly but surely I'm staying on the rail and can go however far I need to.

However everytime I try to look back and see how far I've become I fall over or just simply step down. Every time. And once I've stepped down for a moment, it takes a while to get back the focus and ease of mind to keep the balance.

Your future is what you want to focus on to move ahead without disturbance. The more you look back the more you trip on it.
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Beatrice Gobblebanks - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 02:22:53 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.197588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197585

That's not that profound, it's just physics. Laminar fluid flow that's subjected to chaotic interference becomes chaotic flow.
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Clara Pengerville - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 03:06:18 EST ID:LolL7bY5 No.197589 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197588
Yeah yeah were supposed to be uptight cause we cant seem dumb or whatever.
What I think could be profound is that you both came to the same thing in different ways.
Anyway, its not concrete op. You make a leap, conciousness and smoke might be you know, unrelated.Metaphors are nice and all, but they just help me sleep for a few nights. A man gets to a point when he needs to go to bed with warm fact.

I said fact.
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Sidney Ballercocke - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 12:41:52 EST ID:HAlhHi/j No.197595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197589
you will die, be okay with it.


Religious fundamentalism by Nicholas Shakeshit - Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:11:12 EST ID:vJKc3YFi No.197470 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why is America the only non-Muslim country that has a powerful religious fundamentalistic political wing and popular support?
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Nigel Brookcocke - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 20:03:02 EST ID:tm2JLi5q No.197581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197475
Ireland doesnt have a "powerful religious fundamentalistic political wing and popular support". None of the political parties have religion at the core of their policies. Only older people care about religion. Religion and is a dying trend in Ireland. I dont where youre pulling this from.
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Fanny Cheppersodging - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 20:12:30 EST ID:06jLxQoE No.197582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197581
Ireland did outlaw blasphemy recently though
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Walter Snodstock - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 21:37:25 EST ID:gqVFybCs No.197584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197581
> None of the political parties have religion at the core of their policies
>Religion and is a dying trend in Ireland.
>Only older people care about religion.
I could say all of this for America as well. I don't mean to paint Ireland in a negative light, but if America is the standard for religious influence, then there's a lot of non-muslim countries that fit the bill.


>Ireland doesnt have a "powerful religious fundamentalistic political wing and popular support".
Then why is abortion illegal? Why did abortion play a central role in whether or not you'd ratify the Lisbon treaty? Why is there a blasphemy law (even if unenforced) on the books? Why does your constitution mention the trinity? Why can't gays marry? Or adopt? Why aren't transgender people legally recognized?



I'm not saying Ireland is a theocracy. Neither is America. But you do have a "powerful religious politcal wing." I think "Fundamentalist" is a a very debatable term, and it's best to leave it out.
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Doris Blythehood - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 04:26:20 EST ID:Gx6NRz5k No.197590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197476

damn nigga beat me to bhutan

yea sorry op your premise is too edgysuburbancantwakeupinside and not relevant to the real world at all.
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Nigel Brookcocke - Mon, 05 Jan 2015 06:01:03 EST ID:tm2JLi5q No.197591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197584
I dont deny religion is enshrined in parts of Irish politics, but this is a leftover from the powerful grip of the Catholic Church which started to decline in the 90s. What I meant was that there is no political party or movement which is religiously fundamental. Times are changing. LGBT marriage will soon be recognized (referendum very soon with the Taoiseach fully endorsing Yes), blasphemy has been outlawed, laws on abortion will ease up (the public are not standing for this anymore and neither are many in government) and as for trans people not being recognized - I dont know, it does suck, and Ireland is a bit behind in the times with regards to social issues.

Im obviously not attacking you. But I dont think Ireland is anywhere near as religious as America. Im Irish and have spent my whole life here and I have family in America and so have traveled quite a lot there and to me the differences are huge. I mean, I still meet young pretty 21 year old American women who are really intelligent and nice and then they shock me out of nowhere by talking about Jesus and God and stuff and its just like wtf. You would never get anyone under the age of 35 talk about God here. And like I said, there is no political party with a religious agenda or even politicians or hell public figures. When it comes to issues like abortion and such, the Catholic Church no longer has a political say in it anymore - really. These issues are becoming uh... de-Catholicized. Religion exists in our constitution but its a relic of the past and is slowly being stamped out.

The Catholic Church, as ya might know, has gone through some SERIOUS scandal the past decade in Ireland and literally every year there is a new uproar over some scandal. Its popularity is at its lowest, as is mass attendance and numbers of people signing up to priesthood. It's great to see to be honest, because the Catholic Church has poisoned and corrupted this country for far far too long.


What is this whole "life" thing? by Shit Blathershaw - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 22:39:09 EST ID:hdrBaS0Q No.197077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it possible to "waste your life"? If so, how does one define what is a waste of time vs. what is not a waste (not necessarily "productive" use of one's time, but that may be a possibility worth investigating)?

Has a person who makes a meager living and lives in a small dwelling playing video games for the majority of his life "wasted" his life? Is a person who becomes famous, invents something important, creates some artistic masterpiece, becomes rich, or something similar, "better" in some way than the first person mentioned?

How do you make your way in a world which, by all available evidence, appears to be absurd (in the Camus sense of the word)? That is, how do you figure out what to do with your limited time in this life?
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Jack Shittingridge - Sat, 20 Dec 2014 22:06:57 EST ID:YVFgXrPz No.197309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197196
That was actually a pretty good read bruh
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Fuck Sillerwen - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 01:56:23 EST ID:e3tj9jnJ No.197528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well nobody owns time we are al in the present I always hear this shit like "oh I've got 60 years left to live what will I do with it?" do with what faggot? you don't own jack shit you're here in the present navigating the world like the rest of us, do you know how I figure out what to do with 'my time'? I act in the present like everybody else do whatever the fuck I want I aint gonna live my life so when I'm dead some freshman prat can jizz over my 'life-story', as told by, not me but someone else. arrrrrghhhhhhhhhhh son you're wasting your life you have so much potential we might hear this shit from our mothers, but it's potential for what bitch? to make you proud? so you can brag to the other she-whores about how well your son is doing? so you can feel like you've contributed to society by letting some fuckwit cum in you 9 months later I fall out a gaping cunt spreading joy and love admiration on fucking me is that what you want mom? gotta do you bit and pay your part for the society you live in gotta increase your standard get a good mariiage have 2 and a half white pickets respectable career lectures and dissertations.

guess what bitch this life is fucking insanity and we aint nothing but the walking dead trying to continue our miserable existence with scraps of shit we find on the street huddling round poystyrene fires and empty ammo shells triple jackets keep the cold out all perpetuate this wanton misery so it can go on for the next generation, the next litter of fucking scumskin cumskin shitskin mudskin scumfucks ready to suckle on that wrinkled tit grow big and 'make a mark' on the world while you work the same dead end job like everyone fucking else just so you can heat your pad and keep up with insurance getting blackout drunk every friday and sat another meaningless time wasted gifted buried burrowed begged traded stolen and spent, spent what bitch? is what I say with two fingers raised in a big fuck you I aint into debt don't tick me dubs when I can rob your black ass I can't use what I don't have I can't do something with time that don't even fucking exist. where the future hun? ayy bb where is it? ahead of you? …
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Henry Ciblingchack - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:13:15 EST ID:A1zx0Kh1 No.197545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
some bertrand russell for you.

"I think that there is far too much work done in the world, that immense harm is caused by the belief that work is virtuous"

"I hope that, after reading the following pages, the leaders of the YMCA will start a campaign to induce good young men to do nothing. If so, I shall not have lived in vain." http://grammar.about.com/od/classicessays/a/praiseidleness.htm

"The time you enjoyed wasting is not wasted time"

"Owing to the absence of any central control over production, we produce hosts of things that are not wanted. We keep a large percentage of the working population idle, because we can dispense with their labor by making the others overwork. When all these methods prove inadequate, we have a war: we cause a number of people to manufacture high explosives, and a number of others to explode them, as if we were children who had just discovered fireworks. By a combination of all these devices we manage, though with difficulty, to keep alive the notion that a great deal of severe manual work must be the lot of the average man."

"The fact is that moving matter about, while a certain amount of it is necessary to our existence, is emphatically not one of the ends of human life. If it were, we should have to consider every navvy superior to Shakespeare. We have been misled in this matter by two causes. One is the necessity of keeping the poor contented, which has led the rich, for thousands of years, to preach the dignity of labor, while taking care themselves to remain undignified in this respect. The other is the new pleasure in mechanism, which makes us delight in the astonishingly clever changes that we can produce on the earth's surface."

"There was formerly a capacity for light-heartedness and play which has been to some extent inhibited by the cult of efficiency. The modern man thinks that everything ought to be done for the sake of something else, and never for its own sake."

"The notion that the desirable activities are those that bring a profit has made everything topsy-turvy. The butcher who provides you with meat and the baker who provides you with bread are praiseworthy, because they …
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Henry Ciblingchack - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 20:40:11 EST ID:A1zx0Kh1 No.197547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197137

It's not selfish to ask "from each's ability too each's need." The reality is we aren't all equipped with the stuff to be engineers, visionaries, and scientists.

What would Kant say? Granted many of the greats don't act out of a selfless benevolence and saintly empathy for the plight of mankind but out of necessity (passion, curiosity, etc.)

There is nothing wrong with a hedonistic philosophy or low ambition, but if everyone had these then wed still be hunter gatherer nomads. Humanity's endless quest for 'better' is both the most noble and most destructive aspect of existence I can think of.
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Hedda Pocklechit - Sun, 04 Jan 2015 18:09:30 EST ID:FYiIe0T6 No.197580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>197528
was gonna post, but this guy saved me 10minutes. fuck this world. the only rational solution is to nuke this planet.


Concept diagrams by Caroline Chimmlehood - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:41:20 EST ID:pPUIkfRv No.197525 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I like to draw concepts sometimes to further understand them. After reading some Malthus, I have a further appreciation for the influence and direction Nature can give to human industry. I have drawn two pictures illustrating these theories.
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Caroline Chimmlehood - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 22:45:07 EST ID:pPUIkfRv No.197526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This diagram was difficult, but many examples of professions could theoretically exist. Primarily, I should note that the utilization of death by industry - incorporating hydrocarbons (oil, plastics) into the 'industrial' process indeed moves further and further from nature and productivity no matter if you take a generous or conservative stance on productivity in industrial labor in the first place.
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Clara Biblingham - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 10:44:48 EST ID:vS8+qKFH No.197537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah concept diagrams are great, but the concepts you're illustrating... dude what are you smoking...?
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Doris Sobberton - Sat, 03 Jan 2015 19:19:44 EST ID:pPUIkfRv No.197544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>197537
The first is just productivity illustrated. The second is more philosphical: organic morality having a central point but only tangentially understood by the human beings that interact within it. Until recently, most jobs and careers interacted with nature. But my theory is that this changed due to our disconnection with nature and obsession with death.


insight and control by Phineas Greenhall - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 02:14:09 EST ID:2K1VoOvp No.197434 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How can I gain understanding of the world around me and the ability to influence it?
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Alice Dartridge - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:15:31 EST ID:cS9mqAho No.197508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Psychology. If you are good at it you can basically do anything you want. But the tricky thing is 'good at it' doesn't mean being able to recite back what you read in your textbook, it's being able to do those things naturally and without a second thought. That is, being good at psychology is being born with the talent to understand and predict other people. I doubt you can be effective at this unless you're born with it. And if you're asking, you're not. NB
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Martha Pebblestadging - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:36:03 EST ID:MVDVx1T5 No.197509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Some food for thought:
http://learningsystemsgo.wordpress.com/2013/02/13/dana-meadows-12-leverage-points-to-change-the-world/
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Archie Gocklebire - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 14:05:19 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197519 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197508
Its basically reading body language and then pandering towards good feelings they exhibit and steering away from negative ones.

But this is hard because I, being 5'8", would be shorter, and psychology at work is gaining less respect or belief for my claims regardless of validity or proof
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Archie Gocklebire - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 14:08:08 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197509
Damn, these are things I came into thought with when I was 14.
Im not demeaning it, but it means something personal to me

I think to be a true human, to claim you have free will (assume no God for this argument please) you must be presently aware of the paradigm your society has and then evaluate it and set your own
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Phineas Chezzlepore - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 15:30:24 EST ID:jnZWVBaS No.197521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197519

Grow a beard.


What drives a human to do what we do? by Martin Hevingstut - Tue, 09 Sep 2014 02:08:32 EST ID:FGIa06n3 No.195781 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Simple enough question.
Why do we do what we do?
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Archie Gocklebire - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:09:22 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>195791
>saying stock and questions debated for millennial aren't good
get the fuck out, fucking post modernist scum
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Archie Gocklebire - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:12:40 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197502 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197454
tell that to my cock
>>195862
asking why is the foundation of all science and philos
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Alice Dartridge - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 03:09:36 EST ID:cS9mqAho No.197507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That like asking "why does force move objects?", it's so vague it actually makes it difficult to answer. The best answer I guess would be the laws of nature. But it sounds like what you're getting at might be asking if whether what we do is determined by free will or determinism.
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Archie Gocklebire - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 14:03:15 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197457
I believe this too
I also believe that once you educate and become aware of this, you can then steer the ship through the waves of hormones
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Archie Gocklebire - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 14:03:46 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197507
I think Newton asked that under the apple tree


Philosophy of technology by Lillian Braffingham - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:54:41 EST ID:fxTkE7A6 No.197439 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been meaning to study technology from a philosophical point of view, but I find there aren't really that many authors who treat the subject. Any suggestions whatsoever? I'm particularly interested in a phenomenological standpoint.

The only ones that come to mind are Heidegger (His seminars on Nietzsche taking der Übermensch as the ultimate technic man, and his seminar Die Frage nach der Technik), Baudrillard and his Simulation and Simulacra, some Zizek (I bought a book with a couple essays about the internet and virtuality, haven't read them yet), and I've been told Vattimo and Sloterdijk, specially the latest, have written interesting stuff on technology/technic.
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Ernest Dickleham - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 15:52:40 EST ID:nhLsZOhD No.197447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Simone de Beauvoir
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Doris Dibberchone - Wed, 31 Dec 2014 10:06:16 EST ID:fxTkE7A6 No.197465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197440
I plan on reading his books on cinema, but I had no idea he had written other stuff on technology tbh, gonna do some research.

>>197446
Googling him right now, had never heard of him

>>197447
Where did she wrote about technology? I'm currently reading The Women Destroyed, and have already read a couple other books (though I haven't finished them) by her.


Googling a bit I find out a disciple of Heidegger (Bernd Stiegler) has a book in 3 volumes called Time and Technology, inspired by Heidegger's philosophy. Sadly is neither edited in my country, nor in my language. I could read it in pdf in english but I really don't enjoy at all...
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Nigel Muckledotch - Wed, 31 Dec 2014 16:16:33 EST ID:LYShLDU+ No.197471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Baudrillard's On seduction and The vital illusion
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Walter Saddlebanks - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:23:39 EST ID:PMR6/8EW No.197504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone who didn't mention Whithead is wrong. Just so wrong. Baudrillard though is an acceptable substitute, if you're into subpar thought and all.
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Alice Dartridge - Fri, 02 Jan 2015 02:42:48 EST ID:cS9mqAho No.197505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Consider looking more into Zizek, he tackles 'modern' problems very often. Not necessarily about the philosophy of tech, but rather he'll analyze the way we use our modern tech, and what that means about the ideology that we unconsciously(and sometimes consciously) live by. He's also very accessible though he often doesn't dig in as deep and many other philosopher. But what he lacks in depth he makes up for in quantity of original thoughts. He's no Dostoyevsky but he's definitely got some gems.


Transgenderism Promotes Gender Stereotypes? by Doris Blathergold - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 18:30:03 EST ID:vL38NDWg No.197141 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've just come up with this theory, so take it with a grain of salt, and I hope I don't offend anyone too much. I've just always been confused about this whole transgender thing. Never had a problem with them, think they should be able to do what they want good for them.

But I do have some opinions about them that are probably considered quite rude by some. For example, I don't think transgender is a gender. It is a sexuality choice. Gender is simple fact. You're born male or female. You have testes or ovaries, those things determine your gender, not your feelings.

And also, do transgenders not promote gender stereotypes? A girl likes videogames, shit talking, is more attracted to girls, etc. So she becomes a man? Is she not saying that only men should like doing those things? Why can she not be a lesbian who enjoys playing videogames and shit talking?

I mean really I don't understand the whole thing. Like why would you actually want to fully transform genders? I understand guys who like dressing up like girls and getting fucked for sexual satisfaction, or girls who get dicks because they'd rather do the fucking then get fucked, again for sexual satisfaction. But what sort of real reason do they have for changing genders permanently other than for sexual satisfaction?

I know, I'll probably get a lot of hate and criticism. But please try to help me understand this whole thing. My brother just started dating a girl who is supposedly transgender. I just don't even get how she is. She has boobs and a pussy, dresses in guys clothes and has short hair but still giggles like a little schoolgirl and lets my brother swing her around. What is this? It's just all so confusing. I swear from me and my brothers experiences so far (I'm 21, he's 19) it's impossible to find a normal girl in this day and age. They're all mentally ill in some way or another. Fuckin ay
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Charlotte Horryton - Sat, 27 Dec 2014 03:13:06 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197382
>But you can't deny that when you meet someone you get an impression of them as either "male" or "female"
Yeah I can, never get that impression.
>. You don't know their chromosomes, and oftentimes even secondary sexual characteristics (breasts etc) are hidden from your view in some way.
Other ones such as voice, general bodyshape, face placement on the face, scent, body language, and other subconscious common traits limited to women (limited in group, not as each individual characteristic)
Everything else you said basically supported what OP is claiming, you express yourself in the way you dress because you believe that you think that you are another a gender.
you express yourself that way with GENDER STEREOTYPES

>you might think that people SHOULD adopt those behaviours
No, but people naturally do it on a general scale, its just human biology at work and each thing you characterize about the gender can usually be broken down into biological explanations

>NOT identical to biological sex, and that thing is GENDER
Redefining a word and expecting everyone to read your mind on something that you and only you believe.
You follow the logic of someone starting their own religion, and being a singular follower of it, and wondering why people dont see it your way.
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Augustus Paffingnuck - Sat, 27 Dec 2014 10:34:26 EST ID:q+dVyNYa No.197388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197383
> its just human biology at work and each thing you characterize about the gender can usually be broken down into biological explanations

Exactly.
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Walter Wunninggold - Sat, 27 Dec 2014 20:22:49 EST ID:l4N/vJlB No.197396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197383
Okay, let's do this point by point.
So you're saying that you are incapable of discerning someone as "male" or "female" in most instances? I doubt that. That's bullshit. In fact...
Your response to point 2 negates your first; you clearly DO make such a distinction, as you describe by virtue of scent, facial features, body language and dress etc. Perhpas it is based on gender stereotypes - and by gender stereotypes we mean "those traits or behaviours that we expect to see associated with a sex, based on the expecations given to us, be that via social or biological cause". Basically, "gender" IS those traits associated with a given biolgical sex. That's the key element of my argument. You can call those associated "stereotypical" or you can call them "based on evidence", but as i say, that's a completely seperate argument.

Yes, of course people do it on a general scale, that's what gives us those "stereotypes" or trends in the first place - but yes it is important to acknowledge that not everyone follows those trends. Acknowledging that a trend is not universal is not the same as saying that a trend does not exist. People do tend to be the gender that their sex prescribes, clearly.

I'm not "redefining" a word so much as explaining the usage of the word to a significant minority of the population. The debate around the meaning of the words "gender" and "sex" is central to this debate and what I gave was not my own definiton but a widely accepted one by a significant minority, and even a majority in some areas. I'm not saying anything that anyone else hasn't said before, and actually these things are being said by some of the leading academics in this field. You of course are entitled to call it bullshit, but know that the majority of those well-informed on this don't agree with you.
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Archie Gocklebire - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:37:55 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197490 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://boards.420chan.org/cd/res/380446.php

lol
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Archie Gocklebire - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 23:04:33 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197396
The stereotype of gender characteristics is neurological even deeper with hormones and other factors, outside of the social environment, which is entirely control for someone who questions it

Its a chicken and egg thought, where the social construct did not predate, apriori, the "victim" of the stereotype


The Average Human being is incapable of taking care of himself/can be trusted by Emma Greenforth - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:14:25 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197240 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else share this view?
Could a society or function ran with this in mind and aimed at being avoided then create a utopia?
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Charlotte Blackfield - Sun, 28 Dec 2014 04:13:20 EST ID:yWmdYh0E No.197401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197262
Group-think exists. group conformity exists.
When talking to a group, you are more correctly referring to one entity, not each individual or their sum.
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Martha Pittingfuck - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:40:27 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197401
This is interesting and wish I had anything on this.
This is pretty fucking fascinating,
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Esther Fendlemire - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:17:33 EST ID:fltNOnc1 No.197421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197268
you don't need to look each one of them in the eyes, to adress them. He was adressing them as a group. He wasn't hoping for one response from one person, he was hoping to adress them as a group.

If you were to bait a group of fish, you would be hooking a group of fish.

If your suggesting you can only get one fish at a time despite attracting many thats another matter.

Sometimes you engage more than one person.

But sometimes its not the man engaging the group, its the group and the man engaging with one another.

Sometimes the existence of a group is formed through engagement. So what is a collection of indiividuals hanging out with one another doing.

A group of friends can be a collection of individuals that forms on occasions to function as a group. In other words what they are interacting with, and what there interaction forms is a group.
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Augustus Pishwone - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 09:28:57 EST ID:vWvBiMC9 No.197438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197421

The person you're arguing with clearly has an inability to write properly and his brain has problems

every post he's made is full of misused words, completely made up definitions or just wordplay as factual proofs.

Good luck getting an even half sensible response
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Archie Gocklebire - Thu, 01 Jan 2015 22:37:12 EST ID:ZGi1tDkn No.197489 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197438
Its sad when you troll /pss/ because a good opponent would see your side through while one is just pants on head retarded


Finally understand Hegel after smoking weed by Barnaby Battingridge - Thu, 25 Dec 2014 20:41:54 EST ID:wyV8r2Fj No.197371 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does this sort of thing happen to anyone else? I've been trying to get into Hegel for a while now (not seriously, just various chapters that interest me etc.) but just today after smoking weed and reading the wikipedia page it all comes together and what Hegel was saying all of a sudden just became really obvious to me.

This happen to anyone else?
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Cornelius Chammerchare - Fri, 26 Dec 2014 01:22:09 EST ID:nMa1Ua6F No.197372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197371

Sometimes yeah, helps you visualize what the fuck is going on. Anyway understanding hegel even a little bit is a big accomplishment for me, because holly shit do i not have a clue what he means about anything.
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Nell Bruvinghall - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 10:42:35 EST ID:fxTkE7A6 No.197422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197371
I mean, I don't wanna sound pedantic, but understanding Hegel is not understanding the wikipedia article on him. Anyway, this has happened to me a lot, but I usually forget my realization the next morning.
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Edward Chonnerfoot - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 11:25:12 EST ID:XY8kuvRh No.197442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197422

>Anyway, this has happened to me a lot, but I usually forget my realization the next morning.

This. Also I can't really tell whether my 'realizations' are just that or if they are delusions. Sometimes, when I have a realization and actually remember it the next morning, I find that I don't really agree with it when sober.
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Isabella Wazzleman - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 16:09:50 EST ID:WgLu4uVu No.197448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Let me just say this board has gotten relatively more hegelian as of late and that's fantastic. nb.


My idea of a bad person... by Fuck Marringcocke - Mon, 22 Dec 2014 15:06:03 EST ID:dagThmmH No.197335 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why are concepts like healthy spirituality, with or without religion, being devalued by everyone except for an elite few? Why are short-sighted ideas like socialism and social parasitism being championed by counter-culture idiots and children young as twelve years old?

I want to say the short-sightedness is a result of people being lied to excessively from the day they're born, and how the average person has no social group aside from school or work. That's only my guess.
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Walter Wunninggold - Sun, 28 Dec 2014 12:02:22 EST ID:l4N/vJlB No.197408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can you explain why you think socialism is short-sighted?

I'm not necessarily saying that it isn't, I just think you can't throw stuff around like that without backing it up with some kind of argument.
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Henry Bibblesad - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 20:45:00 EST ID:dagThmmH No.197426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197353
I'll admit the OP is written like shit.

>>197356
I would feel safer in Norway regardless. I don't think it's the social services.

The only way to starve in the United States is to be too fucking confused to find the free food. Even then, the only reason said confused person would die is if they were flopping around starving and delirious, and nobody helped. That's the main problem here. The main problem is we don't give enough of a fuck about others, that we could let them starve while we throw food into the garbage.

Now if you think the solution is an extremely expensive government program (not that our government takes issue with blowing money) that gives the people little food credit cards they eventually lose privileges too anyway... well that's round-about and silly.


>>197362
>healthy spirituality?
It's a vague term on purpose. I mean something that motivates you to benefit yourself and others.
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Phoebe Pockworth - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 21:10:35 EST ID:vS8+qKFH No.197429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197426
To the last bit of this post - if you really think those are genuine examples of actual socialist political theory then you have no idea what you are talking about. Of course idiots from both sides are going to say stupid shit - just like we shouldn't base conservatism as a political ideology on hardcore bible-belters either. Your examples of "socialist arguments" are strawmen of the worst kid.
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Whitey Sundlesidge - Mon, 29 Dec 2014 23:27:57 EST ID:FqJYi18c No.197430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197426
>Criminals should be rehabilitated.

Why shouldn't they?
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Charlotte Ginderwatch - Tue, 30 Dec 2014 05:35:54 EST ID:dhrbwn0+ No.197435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>197430
This.

OP, you don't believe in rehabilitation and yet you somehow think you're a good, spiritually healthy person?

Here's my idea of a bad person; someone who already assumes that they're good. Too many people fall into the trap of failing to recognise their flaws because they don't even think to look for them. If you think that you are good, you can do terrible things without realising, since you unconsciously assume that as a good person, anything you are doing must be good.

To me, the essential requirement of being a good person is to honestly desire to better yourself and a willingness to question your own beliefs, values, motives and assumptions. Instead of telling ourselves that we are good, we must ask ourselves how we can do good.


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