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Solipsism by Caroline Goodson - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 09:34:02 EST ID:xc7CY0zb No.208563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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  1. I cannot prove anything beyond Solipsism.
  2. God and other beings are akin to chatroom bots.
  3. The Demiurgebot simulating this reality for me has introduced the concept of "heaven".
  4. By simply believing in Heaven I can go there.

As soon as I finished coming up with this I heard "Highway to Hell" on the radio.
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Ernest Dravingkure - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 22:57:05 EST ID:sUgfeg4p No.208564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208563
If solipsism is true, then you also created the conditions around you which you perceive as your environment, as well as the conditions of your own being, which make up your personality. If solipsism is true, since you currently aren't aware of all conditions yet all conditions still hold, then that must mean it is possible for you to create and maintain conditions without your awareness. Which means that there may be other conditions of your 'soul' or past 'karma' that prevent you from going to 'heaven' no matter how much you believe you can go there.

For example, what if you determined to experience a limited existence as a divided being in a material hell for ~80 years? Then no amount of your believing something now will change the deeper things 'you' (as the universe) believe in and create as reality without being (presently) aware of.

tl; dr: if solipsism is true, then it would be possible for you to create in your own mind a trap that your mind would not be able to get out of, so, simply believing in going to heaven will most likely always prove inadequate to actually getting there.
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Isabella Tillingforth - Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:21:02 EST ID:GOrR0dZ8 No.208565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When did you prove solipsism? Did you get caught up in the old absence of evidence meaning evidence of absence trap?
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Henry Chundleworth - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:18:43 EST ID:XzGatN3O No.208584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Even if all that was there was this single persisting identity, there's still someone else who I exist as at different points in time. And that's when everything feels whole up there, I'm sure you could break yourself up into different personas if you felt so inclined to really feel someone else. I think it's a better idea to just change your concept than to go down this road, man
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Nathaniel Gummlepack - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:39:55 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Animism is the solution to solipsism, and the only philosophy that makes any real sense.
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William Covingtodge - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 17:46:37 EST ID:WKSqWfwB No.208603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>208590
I see your Animism and I raise you one Panentheism.
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Fucking Docklenene - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 18:58:27 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>208603
Ok, I really would like to point out here that God, can be both the entirety of Reality and outside of It at the same time, God, as a truly infinite and omniscient Being, The ALL, if you will, can be as Paradoxical as It wants. There is literally no reason reality has to follow any sets of rules, it probably does for the sake of "clarity" within us, the subroutines of the Godhead, which God is playing the exploration of infinity through, and for elegance, beauty, etc. Though a truly trained eye can see beauty and elegance in chaos.

I just choose animism after the fact as my go to spirituality because everything deserves to be loved.
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Betsy Drocklewat - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 20:39:31 EST ID:IdF5339U No.208605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208604'

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Phineas Pittshaw - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:51:30 EST ID:cc26aplb No.208606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>208605
The trick here isn't to confuse love with feel-good, always-positive outlooks which can be both forced and ho-hum at times. But rather, realize that love can be fast, sharp, blunt, and upending, i.e. tough love, or the kind of brotherly banter that comes with a group of close friends. No need to sing songs about SLAYER 24/7, you can call your best friend a jackass and a retard and still have love in your heart. But you know this already...

That being said, if you are in the right mindset, SLAYER and those regularly ho-hum, feel-good togetherness notions can be quite cathartic.
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Martha Pocklemat - Fri, 19 Jan 2018 16:05:28 EST ID:Vv1yxGNY No.208616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208606
This is true, but unfortunately it's a value that isn't really taught anymore. Any kind of criticism of anything is taken as undermining the very essence of that thing itself, whereas past eras understood that constant critique is the only thing that makes anything stronger.

I blame the simplification of the psyche brought about by mass media, abetted by corporatism. Honestly, the purest, strongest, most noble kind of love is the kind of love that is willing to make the other person hate you if it makes them better, but very few are selfless enough to practice that anymore.
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Jack Chisslemet - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 21:22:22 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208616
>This is true, but unfortunately it's a value that isn't really taught anymore. Any kind of criticism of anything is taken as undermining the very essence of that thing itself, whereas past eras understood that constant critique is the only thing that makes anything stronger.

This still exists in the academic world. Science, art, philosophy, they all still function on the concept of "critique to improve".
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Nigel Claywell - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 19:01:08 EST ID:LkFQtrYH No.208619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208618
Yes, but unfortunately the power of science, art, and philosophy to influence the attitude of the masses is presently waning (whereas it was clearly waxing in the prior century.)
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Nigel Gashville - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:37:56 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208619
Art, science and philosophy never had influence over the masses. In the past, the nobility and rich just made sure the masses had no control.
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Nigel Claywell - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 00:47:01 EST ID:LkFQtrYH No.208621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208620
>>never had influence
>>no control
I think we both know that's a little bit of an over simplification and not uniformly true, but we're talking in very vague generalities anyway.
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Cedric Bobberhone - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:14:24 EST ID:8gq7GAVV No.208622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208621
Hey I like vague generalities. It's like a little appetizer before the main meal.
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Augustus Baffingfield - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 04:40:49 EST ID:xc7CY0zb No.208842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208564
Ain't no hidden variables, man. Some science dudes proved it.
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Ian Cenningfuck - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 14:19:43 EST ID:WFGKCTJE No.208865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>208842
While we know there are no hidden variables (for quantum effects) within the universe under our current means of measurement, that doesn't mean that our universe itself isn't a simulation, or that hidden variables don't exist in layers of reality deeper than our technology can penetrate (or that are irrelevant to measurement of quantum systems.)

All the hidden variable theory (or rather it's apparent falsity) means is that there is no additional physical quantities we could measure to improve our ability to predict the functionality of quantum systems. If both the quantum systems and us don't 'really' exist (or exist informationally or holographically) then there could be an unlimited number of additional 'hidden' variables manipulating existence which we would have no way of perceiving.


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