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Bad trips don't help shit by Martin Brenkinseck - Fri, 13 May 2016 03:45:45 EST ID:l4wtsvsF No.861198 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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They just suck. Who here gets absolutely no value from bad trips and avoids/aborts them without giving a shit about what potential "lessons" they might give you?
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Sophie Penningkotch - Sat, 28 May 2016 16:08:30 EST ID:Ww2ZFlep No.862072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861958
>>861988

Most of my experiences on drugs have been negative. Ranging from hellish, extremely difficult, threatening, managable. 4/5 have been negative let's say. I've had some sweat experiences with MDMA, but most times have an anxiety attack moment where I feel I'll plunge into complete torment if I'm not careful. The first MDMA experience, there was a short moment of less than 30sec where if I wasn't able to pull out from the trajectory I was headed, I would have been stuck on the floor of the forest on my own until it ended in complete torment. There's always a wariness of this danger, even when the experiences are going well I have to assume I'm possibly only one minute away from this. Besides MDMA, I had two positive experiences on LSD.

I'm scared of psychedelics, but I feel like I have to do them. I'm taking it easy right now. Haven't taken anything since last September. But sitting on lots of stuff at the ready. My personal goal for the past two months has been to eat just one dried liberty cap. I think every day about the experience and try to come to terms with the frightening aspects, and how I can better manage the experience especially if I get into a shitty downward spiral.
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Oliver Serrydeg - Sat, 28 May 2016 18:25:00 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.862074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862072
Wow friend, I feel sort of bad for you. I'm not saying you shouldn't take psychedelics anymore but you really seem to get less out of them than many people including myself. I find the lows to be at least balanced (if not outweighed) by the highs. The ego dissolution stuff is medicine for me. Are you an anxious or depressed person?
Do you trip alone? What sorts of activities do you undertake while in the experiences?
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George Duckway - Sat, 28 May 2016 23:19:31 EST ID:iQBUFebB No.862080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861600

Out of all the trip reports and things I've read about other peoples' experiences over the years, this is one of the most relatable reflections of the existential dread I often experience while on shrooms that I've ever read.

I usually have a great time on shrooms after the come up....but some of the thoughts and feelings I have during the come up are absolutely terrifying. I think the scariest part for me is the idea of not being able to escape your mind. If the trip goes sour...there is literally no way to escape what happens in your own consciousness....because you take it where you go (both figuratively and literally). When you're facing earthly dangers or uncomfortableness...there are always "options". Leave the room, change the channel, move out of the way, distract yourself with something else....but what can you do when the root of that terror is your own consciousness and the nihilistic realizations that a bad trip can trigger? I can't fathom anything scarier than the complete utterly helpless feeling that can come with certain psychedelic experiences....when your mind is shredded there is literally nowhere you can turn. You are completely at the mercy of the drug at that point. Nobody can help you and you can't help yourself. You are alone. You can't even find comfort in the idea of being alone in the *universe*, because it feels like you are literally alone in the nothingness. Nothing can help you. There is nowhere you can go. Reality is an illusion constructed by the very thing that you are now at the mercy of. The only escape would be death but that would simply take you to what you're trying to run from: nothingness. Futility. Nihilism. The Void.

What's funny is that these thoughts usually only occur to me over the course of a few seconds, and after they dissipate the trip can be fun, interesting, and wonderful. But whenever my mind wanders to those realizations during a trip I just feel terrified and hopeless. Like everything I've learned about the world around me in 29 years is a hilarious lie....not told by anyone or anything....just a lie that I've been enveloped in, in this lonely, empty, isolated existence that…
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Walter Sillerhotch - Sun, 29 May 2016 11:36:38 EST ID:+BcYWCUD No.862094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862080
I think that outlines your idea on dealing with uncomfortable and possibly even traumatic issues pretty well (and others as well, not just picking on you). Maybe I'm reading too much into what you said, but running away and escaping from an issue is a valid approach to dealing with it. And granted, sometimes it is, but it is never a permanent solution, or even one you should readily embrace. Sometimes clearing your head is necessary, but there is definitely a need to face what utterly terrifies you.

The idea of whatever it is that terrifies you is more terrifying than the reality that you will eventually have to face, unless you never actually face it. You're absolutely right that you cannot escape your own consciousness. The reason bad trips stay bad is because people are concerned with just how bad they think they feel and the experience is, rather than choosing to deal with it and take control of the situation. Even though I would never classify any of my trips as a bad trip, I've had plenty where they were negative for a significant portion for whatever reason. When you make with peace and accept the fact that you can't escape what's happening, you can at the very least take what little control you have over the situation and decide how you emotionally react to what you're experiencing.

When you realize that a majority of the negativity is being generated by your emotional reaction and is simply fueling the experience and causing it to spiral out of control, you just have to yank the fucking cord right out of the socket and let the batteries run dry. You do have options, and you can take steps to minimize the damage. In the end, you learn a valuable skill in dealing with fear and having to face how harsh reality can be at times. Whatever happens, as long as you live, things can get better. They can't get better if you don't take steps to make it better and take care of yourself. Thinking about how long you are going to be stuck in this awful state, how awful it really is, and feeling sorry for yourself doesn't qualify as taking care of yourself. Reality at that point is no longer awful because of things that are out of your control, but because you…
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Polly Shittingshit - Sun, 29 May 2016 15:02:01 EST ID:Ww2ZFlep No.862107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>862074
It was a ground-shattering moment when I discovered psychedelics, because I always felt growing up that I was more interested in the nature of reality than my peers. Living in the countryside, while everyone else lived in a more urban setting, I was brought up strictly religious, and the only place I could turn to was inside my head and outside to the character of the landscape around me. I still feel I have a connection to the world, more than most. I was certain psychedelics were for me. So I took every precaution, read as much from the major sources online, did a satisfying amount of research. Two months of scouting and two dozen identifications later, I found Psilocybe semilanceata, and took a small sample (16 libs) one day to get a small feel what it was like. I have no place inside to take mushrooms, so I normally take them outside in the fields or forests, away from people, sometimes out in the dark at nighttime. People are a major anxiety for me. It would shame me if I was found being unconventional on my own, you know. I worry about the innocent locals who might stumble upon me, the authorities being called, my family being called, disturbing kids who wouldn't be able to understand or process what they see the sharp contrast from what they expect from their conservative upbringing. That first mushroom experience of 16 libs. I was prepared for the 45min mark, but there was no noticeable change. After 65min I was convinced I hadn't taken enough, so I got up and left the area I was in. About a minute later, I feel weird. Or I thought maybe I did. Not sure. It's like my mind has turned to slush. I enter a field and walk around aimlessly feeling like I'd been bonked on the head. I just feel like a gormless conk, a fish with it's mouth agape. I have to lie down on the ground, in an awkward position. The whole mental structure I built up had fallen down like construction scaffolding. No intellect, just feelings. Motherfucker, I didn't think it was going to be like this. It's so alien. Up until now, I had thought I was totally capable of new experiences, but this is frightening. I want to clutch back to the life I had moments ago. And it's like I can see God snee…
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Helping hand by Phineas Godgewill - Sun, 29 May 2016 14:56:37 EST ID:BQF7T5Xb No.862106 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys - first time posting on 420ch, longtime browser

I need some advice from knowledgeable people

Can anyone tell me for sure if there are any ways to color plain white tabs after LSD is already on it? I would like to darken out certain parts of it for my own reasons. I don't trust any dye to not destabilize the molecules, or to do any funny business that might affect them in any way.

Also, can anyone give me steps on how to lay out crystal to blotter? I can't find any good advice on it and need some serious help to not waste thousands by my own fuck up.

Any advice would be more than welcome

Thanks guys

*Will not post pictures*

Reposted from wrong board


Can we just talk about how weird eating is by Jarvis Broblingtadge - Wed, 25 May 2016 22:18:55 EST ID:lleMNXIr No.861950 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Like moving all this at the same time to crunch this little things its alot for a little and I love it.
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!GOACID/XyA - Sat, 28 May 2016 22:26:09 EST ID:F3yVGzWX No.862078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>eat pizza on acid
>jesus christ this is disgusting

It was some super shitty local pizzeria that my friend worked at.
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Archie Bunwater - Sat, 28 May 2016 22:53:04 EST ID:q6w/iEAb No.862079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862076
I find smell to be the weirdest. Picking up on microscopic particles floating in the wind sometimes over great distance, the automatic reaction of a "bad" smell, the strong relationship with taste, etc

Sight is a glorious thing though. Seeing a tiny fraction of the electromagnetic spectrum yet what a strange and miraculous thing colour and vision is. Imagine the sights we'd see if we could read all of the spectrum
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Charles Honeylock - Sun, 29 May 2016 11:37:32 EST ID:poJfZ1Xa No.862095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862076
Yeah, veggies and nuts are the best while tripping. I had an incredible salad the last time I tripped, I'll never forget!

Completely unrelated. I may hope in vain. But have you considered going vegetarian? If the thought of chewing on the corpse of a previously conscious, sentient being (the life of which was likely spent imprisoned and tortured in a cage) disturbs you on acid, it should also disturb you while sober. I believe that all sentient beings have a right to live; a simple change to your diet (one that you'll find is just as delightful as your meat based diet) can save lives and protect the environment. You should seriously consider it, friend!
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Martha Dartwater - Sun, 29 May 2016 13:00:18 EST ID:33r0WcKQ No.862097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862095
I've previously considered it at length, but ultimately I'm too much of a gourmet gourmand to give up on meat. Also, disturb is too strong a term for the sentiment I feel, more like I second guess myself. I'm firmly entrenched in the ''Wait for synthetic meat to become viable'' camp, and there's other factors a play that I don't feel too much like delving into atm, as it is a rather complex issue. Good on you though, I can certainly respect sensible vegeterianism.

>>862079
Smell is the indeed the weirdest, especially when considering the role it plays with strengthening memories and such, as well as how much I take it for granted. I experience joy from my other senses all the time, but I rarely take the time to be grateful for the smell of coffee in the morning, or fresh baked bread. Oh shit, or the smell of you lovers skin... Yeah, smell can be pretty boss.
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Henry Greenham - Sun, 29 May 2016 14:54:09 EST ID:lZzGglVJ No.862105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>862079
Actually, we probably evolved to see the spectrum that we do because it conveys the most information in our environment. If we were seeing random background radio noise and gamma rays all the time, we wouldn't have much of an advantage.
That said: How cool would it be to have contacts or something that converted parts of the spectrum to visible light?
You could see the Aurora Borealis, at any time of the day, at any part of the country, localized entirely within your kitchen.


Legal shamanism for police? by Simon Gabberdadge - Sat, 28 May 2016 18:22:21 EST ID:pAEou83t No.862073 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why not find one legal synthetic cannabionid and one legal psychedelic and give them simultaneously to police for consumption, to wonder and investigate the effects of their culture of karma in their ego structure and such with such substances? And if their drug laws was karma too would be of their concern.
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Basil Nurryway - Sat, 28 May 2016 19:10:49 EST ID:bD56Df36 No.862075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you ask me this is how BWT threads ought to start.
nb
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the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Sat, 28 May 2016 21:04:12 EST ID:9B7uOxhV No.862077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol
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Betsy Duppercocke - Sun, 29 May 2016 14:10:29 EST ID:xRnuyR0A No.862104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862075
lol true. I really tried to figure out his question. But karma and ego structures are subjects I skipped in college lol.


Heavy Doses of LSD by Esther Finningwill - Sun, 29 May 2016 03:33:01 EST ID:hnI03PJp No.862083 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /psy/
Soon I'll be going to a nearby nature reserve to do copious amounts of lsd with my a close friend, we are both experienced psychonauts
I've done large amounts of LSD in the past, most notably a dose of 6 drops from a dropper, and another occasion of 525 ug,
I was considering doing a ten strip because pushing the limit is something I'm really into, I expect I will be able to handle and control it, but I'm wondering if it would be worth it, or if I should just do a lower amount and achieve a similar level of ego loss
Could anyone explain the differences between such higher doses, ie 500-1000 ug?
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Alice Nettingfoot - Sun, 29 May 2016 11:18:27 EST ID:HJ7PaYkq No.862093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
From 600 there's not really an increase of intensity for me, the trip just lasts longer
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Betsy Duppercocke - Sun, 29 May 2016 14:07:28 EST ID:xRnuyR0A No.862103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862083
Reminds me of my buddy. He wanted to push the limit and did a 10 strip. He said the visuals persisted for about a week, and the comedown was around a month. Like >>862093 said. It just made him trip longer, the effect and feeling plateaued for him about 2 hours in.

I can't really explain the differences physiologically or anything like that. But it seems you will plateau, and trip balls for a LONG while. Rather than experience a bump in effect.


HPPD and flashbacks by Caroline Bardfoot - Sun, 29 May 2016 13:01:46 EST ID:GGjnOuFJ No.862098 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do any of you experiment HPPD or/and flashbacks? If so, does it interfere with your life in an aggressive manner? Was experimenting with psychedelics worth it?

I'll be tripping on mushrooms for the first time soon, but I'm really worried about these persistent hallucinations that everyone online seem to have. Some say it goes away after a couple of months but it sounds like a Russian roulette kind of thing. Anyways, I would appreciate some light on this from experienced trippers.
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Isabella Honeyham - Sun, 29 May 2016 13:27:12 EST ID:iDLotlAK No.862099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862098

Iv experienced HPPD with potent psych. such as LSD or high dose of Mushrooms.

To be honest I work at a graphic studio and when I had to measure with a ruler I had to most difficult time measuring. Driving was a bit of a task but i was able to assist the situation by wearing polorized sunglasses.

to be honest I wore sunglasses for much of the time until the HPPD went away. another big factor was to STOP taking psychedellics all together which was rather approprite as I see psychs as a sacred.
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Caroline Bardfoot - Sun, 29 May 2016 13:32:17 EST ID:GGjnOuFJ No.862100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862099
After how many trips did you experience hppd? How much time did it take to go away?
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Betsy Duppercocke - Sun, 29 May 2016 14:01:46 EST ID:xRnuyR0A No.862102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862098
So, I am assuming you are asking before trying or somethign like that? Either way, HPPD AND PTSD are both possible outcomes from a bad trip. For me, I drank a beer spiked with LSD. I had a bad trip (never had a bad one because I planned me trips). It's fucking awful OP. My anxiety is out of hand, I see wavy lines and splotches of light, or it will look like a light source is lighting up behind me or in the corner of my eye. When the anxiety hits, I have to push away my suicidal and self destructive thoughts. I can no longer sleep in the dark, as I see things sometimes, and my anxiety will; hit a 11/10 if I do. Some people can alleviate the symptoms, and even just HPPD itself. Others like I, am haunted by it and struggle every day not to put a gun in my mouth. Psych's are dependent on the individual, but there are very bad stories as well, mine included.

BTW, the LSD also brought out latent BPD and Schizophrenia I am now diagnosed with. Sometimes you can unleash some bad shit through Psych's.

Now, I am not going to try and be, DRUGS ARE BAD MMKAY. I think there are a lot of therapeutic uses for them. But I tend to find that constantly self medicating outside of educated supervision (a doctor, not your friend who is super cool and knows tripping) leads to delusions of reality and happiness. Just read the board and you'll see. Just recently, I saw a post from a guy trying to trip on LSD to use his crystals as a portal to space so he can cast magical spells. If that's not a mental problem in a human, than I don't know what is.

I'm just saying, careful. And use at your own risk. I personally have a ruined life because of it. Others have completely fixed their lives. It's dependent on the individual.


BWT Thread by Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:15:40 EST ID:Kr4b7eIH No.859014 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New bump thread time! Let's keep it past the 5th page this time.
Get your aminoethyl aromatic chemicals and let's discover why you're even on an imageboard!

Bump While Tripping on some 4-AcO-DMT and opiates. Very, very fun time with no edges. Just smooth
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Dextronaught - Fri, 27 May 2016 03:27:29 EST ID:G5/N4e9F No.862012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just did acid for the first time. 1 tab which im told by a acid head is legit as fuck. Drunk and smoking weed on my own as an experienced tripper. I don't know whats going to happen but I know what I am going to do.
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John Pubberteck - Fri, 27 May 2016 21:35:49 EST ID:ejrXmAXc No.862052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I decided to smoke some DMT last night, but after the experience I don't think I'll touch it again for a good while.

It was wayyy too intense for me, to the point where I wanted it to stop. At one point I was just repeatedly apologizing to God (I'm not even religious but that's the word I used to describe what I was witnessing), then I felt elated, then terrified again. Then all I could ask was the question, "What is?". Lol, such typical /psy/ stuff. One big scary roller-coaster ride that I won't take again anytime soon.
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Rebecca Secklewell - Sun, 29 May 2016 03:49:59 EST ID:BRl2ewLK No.862084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862012
you probably ended up knowing what happened but not knowing what you did instead
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Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Sun, 29 May 2016 12:14:52 EST ID:ZKvYvHA6 No.862096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>859014
450ug of LSD
>FIEND. WHERE ART THOU, FAM
get on sc.
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 29 May 2016 13:33:59 EST ID:8IxgWiHt No.862101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862096
I don't know what SC is. If you mean soundcloud, I looked, couldn't find you.
nb


MAGIC MUSHROOM by Molly Gablingnork - Fri, 27 May 2016 12:51:39 EST ID:mgoUdwI5 No.862030 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Omg this is so nice and im tripping af, any music suggestion? Oh yeah shroom music related thread.
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Wesley Gellyville - Fri, 27 May 2016 13:09:24 EST ID:U47XPnrV No.862031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avUeS5SZHTU legendary song, written on mushrooms
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Lillian Dingerchack - Sat, 28 May 2016 00:35:35 EST ID:Ow1LWLdi No.862056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Have fun mayne.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj5mqBzGIkc
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David Dupperwell - Sun, 29 May 2016 04:32:15 EST ID:3/tRyJ/l No.862086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862030
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lrKJ9mq2RI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2i0ufTszsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Tud-Nr98fI



prepare for the deeper end of psychedelic music OP

Shulman is basically mandatory tripping music, no matter what psy you take. It's incredibly deep and just captures the essence of a trip perfectly IMO.
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Jarvis Snodwell - Sun, 29 May 2016 09:18:37 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.862092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYusL_0HCkI


People who have never used drugs are weird by Alice Broshway - Wed, 18 May 2016 20:59:09 EST ID:yMQnLtRT No.861548 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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After years of smoking weed and psychedelic drug use, does anyone else have problems interacting with people who aren't drug users?

My brothers worse off than I am, I live with someone whose never used drugs or alcoho and we just don't see eye to eye on some things, but we generally get along and are friendly to eachother. Other people, however, aren't so friendly. My brother is a little open about his drug use but im older and wiser and dont generally tell people unless they bring it up first, but i wear tye-dye shirts and jewelry. So it wouldn't be that hard to guess, but people at my work spread rumors that i come in on drugs all the time when I never have and don't talk about drug use at work. Theres a big anti-drug crowd sentiment at my work for some reason that I haven't really seen in years, it reminds me of highschool.

So me and my brother were talking about this and both agree that theres something off or strange about people who have never had a phase of experimenting with drug use in their life. They just seem off. Even if its just weed. The older they get, the weirder they get too. I feel like I can almost sense if somebody had a history of drug use or experimentation, even if it was 30 years ago, it feels like a permanent part of their personality, even if it was just once or a couple of times.

Anyone else notice this?
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Barnaby Bardville - Sun, 29 May 2016 03:05:10 EST ID:Ags3+Eny No.862082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Alot to read /phy/ you really get into it. Anyway what i have to contribute to the conversation is the fact that doing heavy use of cannabis and a lets say half a dozen psychedelic experiences. WITH A LONG BREAK IN BETWEEN. Has left me with a more positive outlook on humanity. Don"t get me wrong I feel there is a great change coming, not sure if that mean a significant die off or something of the sort but we as a species may find something beautiful before our time ends. Just remember hope is our enemy. it keeps us back. It is a delusion. Keep searching. In your inner most self there is a voice that is shouting. Let it be heard. It speaks only truth. Oh yeah. drugs are cool too.
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Jarvis Snodwell - Sun, 29 May 2016 06:05:07 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.862087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862082
>positive outlook

>western democracies are getting increasingly taken over by billionaire-funded alt-right-wing populist movements
>climate is going to shit
>we'll have a full blown mass extinction within the next 500-10,000 years
>democratisation of the middle-east is coupled with civil wars and radical religious cults just cutting a bloody path through nations
>governments are slowly strangling the life out of (digital) privacy in order to fight a small-scale and temporary enemy created by the slow and rightful death of prehistoric religious beliefs

I have a positive outlook on the future too, but you gotta give it some context man. Either we finally shed this primitive cavemonkey shape through transhumanist technologies and jump into the Type 1 Civ, or we all just fucking go extinct and let evolution just take its course, and maybe it'll produce intelligent crowpeople, or octopuspeople, whatever.
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Eliza Blatherforth - Sun, 29 May 2016 06:39:57 EST ID:56FBpkul No.862088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862087
Can you be more of a stereotype? go back to circlejerk
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Jarvis Snodwell - Sun, 29 May 2016 06:54:22 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.862089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862088
>Can you be more of a stereotype? go back to circlejerk

Err, what? Am I missing some fresh new the future/stormfront meme here?
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Isabella Gallywater - Sun, 29 May 2016 07:44:49 EST ID:DIlebMCZ No.862091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862088
Can you be more of a mysterious and vague twat? Just disappear. lol


EMTM by gargravarr - Fri, 27 May 2016 12:24:16 EST ID:jq6ZudPY No.862028 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So a couple vendors have recently surfaced a new chemical called EMTM they are claiming is similar in chemical structure to DMT. I'm going to send back an email asking for the full chemical name because I can't find shit on search engines. Anyone have any info?

OC art
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gargravarr - Fri, 27 May 2016 18:18:38 EST ID:+SI+T2Td No.862038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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apparently he doesn't know much about the chemical, including it's full name, but did have a pic of the structure

any insight?
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Simon Murdfuck - Fri, 27 May 2016 18:56:37 EST ID:NSWWGfxm No.862039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862038
I have no idea why it would be called EMTM. The structure you posted would be called N-cyclopropyltryptamine, or nCPT. Most DMT analogs are tertiary amines, meaning that the nitrogen has three non-hydrogen substituents. The cyclopropyl group is pretty unstable due to ring strain and would probably be converted to an isopropyl group in the body. (not totally sure if the ring would open)
So basically it would become MiPT, minus one of the methyl groups.
Some basic googling tells me this is supposed to be an MAOI.
It might get you kinda high. I would recommend buying any other of the dozens of available tryptamines that have a fair track record/safety profile if you are looking to get high.
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Sophie Pirryway - Fri, 27 May 2016 19:12:55 EST ID:eRxlwVBS No.862041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
NCPT

https://isomerdesign.com/PiHKAL/explore.php?domain=pk&id=5108

thats N-Cyclopropyl-Tryptamine


IUPAC N-[2-(1H-Indol-3-yl)ethyl]cyclopropanamine

heres a trip report
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/archive/index.php/t-398906.html


theres also 5-MEO-NCPT

https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/compound/41422#section=3D-Conformer
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Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Fri, 27 May 2016 20:13:28 EST ID:5uGqFGA0 No.862044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862039
The ring wouldn't break. You're right that there's a ring strain but breaking carbon-carbon bonds isn't done in the body outside of fat metabolism.
It's actually so strained that nature has never made some but relatively stable. This way, the body doesn't really recognise it.

Tertiary amines are not required to get high. Mono-amines are enough most of the time but tert-structures are just more stable and have two metabolic pathways instead of one. (look up aMT).
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George Wonkinfuck - Sun, 29 May 2016 01:01:48 EST ID:CBXfkk/L No.862081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>862028
bump cause interesting


Filming hallucinations - corrupted data by Wesley Pankinfad - Sun, 22 May 2016 06:15:58 EST ID:YHQsbFUz No.861716 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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(Sorry about the english , not native language)
Anyway i am that kind of a person that loves the LSD laser show like hallucinations together with what seems like reality manipulation (Always together, if room is filled with that kind of energy everything becomes unclear,i mean objeckts position etc).
Quite sensitive to this type so even a sleepless night with some amphetamines brings up the same type of hallucinations. Its just awesome to lay in bed and move your hand in the air and manipulate the not usually seen fields. Something deep is up to that topic and would love to understand whats behind it even a little. To try to understand it i have filmed these hallucinations quite many times , and there has been many many times when the recording will randomly stopp , phone will crash and later the file is not supported. (Have actually managed to film some patterns and strong shadow movements so it is not only in your head completely for sure). Just wanted to share this anomaly and ask if anyone has had similar outcomes and maybe even better, has a theory of some kind. (Phone is HTC one m7 never had any problems with video unless filming something odd).
Pic releated , was in my bed this morning after a birthday with some mdma and amphetamines and this spiraling shadow figure was like coming out of the wall together with some strobes above the head / chains in air. Shadow kept turning purple and seemed quite demonic hehe, ofc no playable video.(Error message in estonian, mens Warning : The media file is not supported)
I have around 15-20 of these corrupted files all about the same thing. If anyone would like to take a look write a comment.
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Wesley Pankinfad - Wed, 25 May 2016 06:25:26 EST ID:E1h8C1tf No.861906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861893
Will do shortly (friday/saturday) , at countryside atm enjoying pleasent sea side views and only have mobile devices with me :) peace to all
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Cyril Sondlecocke - Wed, 25 May 2016 11:14:09 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.861912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861895
Who said anything about visiting the future, you retarded cunt. Stop putting words in other people's mouths, you fuckwad.

A friend of mine is a bit of a amateur conspiracy anthropologist, so he keeps tabs on all the websites where braindead alt-rightwing faggots and UFO freakos hang out.
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Shit Mallerworth - Wed, 25 May 2016 13:16:17 EST ID:U47XPnrV No.861914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861912
Jesus this guy is defensive as fuck
nb
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Wesley Pankinfad - Sat, 28 May 2016 14:13:18 EST ID:B2iSODnq No.862068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861914
Its just so hard to express yourself through pixels on screen. Altough have been on the boards for years, dont understand yet how to act properly with so different people. Tought that maybe i did sound like somekind of mad man .
Would like to share example but all the video files are over 400 mb. Any approved site to upload some ?

I think that somekind of electro field is just messing with the device.The question is why it is not affecting anything unless seen. Just a theory, like someone said could be a coincidence but what are the odds after occuring over and over again...
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!GOACID/XyA - Sat, 28 May 2016 15:47:53 EST ID:F3yVGzWX No.862071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861912

lol


LSD first timer by Doris Grandfoot - Tue, 24 May 2016 01:27:41 EST ID:gWiWPpDZ No.861805 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /psy/ trying LSD for the first time this friday, never done anything remotely psychedelic before besides weed. A friend and I will be taking one tab each at roughly 1 P.M. or 13:00. he has also never done anything psychedelic except for weed one time and it wasnt strong either. My dad will be working downstairs (I'm on break from college and I'm staying at my parents house and working) but he doesn't usually ask a lot of questions and I can limit our encounters. I've already read up on it and I know the only way he will know im on it is if i act stupid. Couple of questions and I will likely post a report after

  1. I love neo-psych music and it has kind of been over-empowering during times ive smoked weed before. is that likely to happen here or will it be mostly mood-based?

2. we're bring things for drawing pictures and ive been playing classical music for 10 years. mostly though were gonna talk probably, since i know myself and based on what ive heard from others experiences i will probably want to talk to my friend. we both have music covered too. anything else we might want/need?

3. Is it really gonna last 10-12 hours? i read that online, but ive heard anecdotes from friends saying it lasts 8 hours before

4. general advice? I've done a lot of research but any tips would be appreciated

Really looking forward to it
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Clara Nennernerk - Wed, 25 May 2016 19:19:52 EST ID:vl63jDfj No.861934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861929
Huh. Guess everybody's different. I know I don't feel like eating on shrooms but on acid I do get hungry. I just like keeping healthy ya know. After seeing that something so tiny that it's measured in micrograms can affect your body so much, you begin to realize and wonder what food in even larger amounts does for your body.
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Graham Blongershaw - Thu, 26 May 2016 05:09:47 EST ID:DEs4C3DO No.861968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>861864
Healthy food! I made myself a frozen pizza on the comedown of a lazy sunday trip, I took one bite and had to throw it away because it was so disgusting.
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Esther Bippergold - Fri, 27 May 2016 20:13:43 EST ID:GYdA+Vjh No.862045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>861805
> we're bring things for drawing pictures

Good idea. I drew this last year when I did LSD for the first time.
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Beatrice Geshson - Sat, 28 May 2016 07:13:24 EST ID:qvWwhOb4 No.862064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I took a strong tab of LSD yesterday, I was completely disconnected from space, time, and myself. A complete inability to distinguish between the senses was part of that, for probably several hours.

I would not advice anybody doing that with their parents around if the parents would have a real problem finding out.
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Hamilton Fammerforth - Sat, 28 May 2016 14:45:04 EST ID:gWiWPpDZ No.862070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP Here, Update

The tabs were on the weaker side, trip lasted about 6-7 hours and we peaked for about 1.5-2. Went outside for the majority of it. I live right next to the park and I just watched the trees in awe of the cool patterns and the new way I was seeing them. We found this bench and noone was around and just sat there for about an hour watching clouds move buy. Everything was really kaleidoscopic and neat. It was really beautiful. Dad didn't notice anything, everything went ideally for a first time.

Also probably the first time in years I've derived a lot of pleasure from drawing things lol. I'm not an artist tho so...

>>861810
Bubbles were a great suggestion. It satisfied my boredom on the comeup (lol) and it made my cat look really serious. My friend and I were laughing really hard cuz it looked like my cat was like a king and the bubbles were his entertainment, he looked so serious and in awe.

We laughed a lot and had a great time. After we came back inside from the park we talked about paper and how its impossible to have one sided paper. Than on the comedown i looked up this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRVOwuHU-M0 and realized someone thought of it already

Thank you guys for helping me out


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