/psy/ Psychedelic Discussion
What would happen if you took a psychedelic right before going to sleep?Would you A) sleep through it and wake up soberB) wake up in the middle of the night and start tripping C) have a really trippy dreamHas anyone ever tried this? Assuming it is a long-lasting psychedelic
>>707656In my scenario, you would take some acid tabs right before falling asleep, so it would force you to wake up when the trippy effects starts to kick in? So acid is sort of like a stimulant then, huh
>>707660Yeah, it would do that to you. Sleep and LSD don't mix. I've done it but it's not somethiong I'd recommend to anybody not wanting to walk into the fight of their life.
I can never fall to sleep on acid, not until exactly 12 hours have passed.
>>707662I mistakenly took LSA a few hours before I was planning to sleep, and it took forever for me to do it. Bad idea: now I consider psychedelics like that to be morning-only chemicals. Ill stick to weed as my night drug.
>>707664I actually think psychedelics are most enjoyable if taken late in the afternoon. Maybe it's because I'm kind of a night person, but I always like the idea of tripping balls at night; the darkness of night I find to be a good metaphor for how little we know and it kind of gives me the freedom to envision the world any way I want to. Of course, this means you have to trip through a normal sleep time, so it can't always be done :(
My friends and I are planning to trip next weekend.We all decided we are gonna think of ways to fuck with our one friend while he is tripping. Does anyone have any suggestions?Pic Related - It's him.
That's so fucked up! You're no real friend! WTF
>>707620>>707630Hey now, many people don't understand the fragility of your mind during psychedelics.Perhaps he's being a cruel fuck, but most likely, HE JUST DOESN'T KNOW that fucking with tripping people can cause severe problems.
Go fuck yourself op. Nb, I hope you trip on something and permanently mar your face.
>>707617Don't. Karma will (hopefully) strike down on you, in case you do it.
>>707629>an amount no one here on /psy/ probably has.That's a pretty big fucking claim there
>an amount no one here on /psy/ probably has.
So I got a vial of acid and not sure how to even take the hits. When you flip it upside down none comes out.
I think that's some form of stopper, compadre, and you will need to take it off to get to your precious lsd. Be extremely careful with dosing!!!!!!!!! Sorry if I'm no help
Remove the stopper, acquire a dropper, take 1 drop and see where that lands you. Then move from there.
>>707580Drink the whole thing.
>>707612Do it for science!
>>707612This.
anyone know if you can order this stuff online? has anyone tried it?
You can definitely order it online, I've only seen it on Tor though.
>>707649Hey Goacid, didn´t you have a funny encounter with an African cab driver where he warned you about doing ibogaine for fun?I think it was you...
>>707650LOL! No I did not. I did have a funny encounter with a cab driver while I was on acid once, I asked him to drive me to the greyhound station and it was literally around the corner I was just too high to find it.
>>707647>yfw I am actually on DXM right now
>yfw I am actually on DXM right now
>>707652Damn, I swore someone on this board asked an African cab driver about ibogaine and got a proper warming...
http://www.cottonwoodresearch.org/dmt-pineal-2013/
Rats be trippin
>>707588Man I dunnoI can't see harvesting DMT from ratsI imagine there's not much and poor rattiesBut more seriously what is DMT's endogeneous purpose? I am incredibly curious as to what state those rats were in when it was discovered. Dreaming / waking / tripping / seizuring / etc
>>707632>implying DMT is made by the rats for a purpose and not just there accidentally|>implying it's actually there anytway>imypling it means anything but
>implying DMT is made by the rats for a purpose and not just there accidentally
>imypling it means anything but
>>707508But how do I get it out of their brains and into my lungs
>>707635Purpose being a relative termNo purpose to any organism
I have never made blotter art before but this is what I have come up with, any constructive criticism and ideas are more than appreciatedThe idea is to start making different types of blotters and use the drug skeletal structure on the blotter.
>>707259first thing you should do is tell the internet.Nerd.
>>707271y how do they vary in dangers coud you inject jelly babys with this drug
OP your design looks legit for reals, my advice is to google 'blotter art'. You will find several sites that sell pre-perforated sheets with a huge array of designs. If you prefer to use your own design id recommend using water color paper. Peace and light homie. Remember you gotta scheme if you wana make the CREAM
>>707584I used my noggin :)
>>707586Pic related & NB for double post
I have read a few guides on the preparation of this particular brew, although I would like to have some other first hand inputs as to any common problems one may have in the brewing process. I plan to dose 8g MHRB and 1g of Syrian Rue (ground up and put into capsules). For the brew, I am following this guide.http://www.disregardeverythingisay.com/tagged/ayahuasca+recipeAny advice would be greatly appreciated, as not very much information can be found regarding this particular recipe on google.
ever thought about doing an extraction on the mhrb? It's a bit of a different time, but it's very nice :)Either way enjoy yourself mate :D
Bump for information.
>>707609I'm seriously considering trying MHRB + syrian rue this summer.nb
>>707611I have everything shipped in time so I can have it ready for my birthday on June 23rd. I've had slow start in that, every time I try to trip I never get high enough, due to shortage in product. I've been on the journey for a year and a half, hundreds of dollars wasted on bunk shroom grow attempts and risking my freedom by trespassing onto private fields only to get 4g dry of a mixture of a few Cubes and Pan. cyans.I'm pulling myself back up for another attempt and read that this recipe is claimed to be so easy. I just want to be as educated as possible so I can finally visit this place I've tried so fucking relentlessly to get to.
>>707611Best of luck to you, good sir.
Been a while since we've had one of these. Post psychedelic drug prices in your area, comment and discuss whether deals are good or bad for the area, etc etc.I'll start. In the bay area california :-1/8th of shrooms is 25 dollars, 30 if you're desperate-1 hit of acid is 10 dollars, 5-7 if you're lucky-10 strip of acid is 80 dollars-capsule of 4-aco-dmt is 20 dollars for 20mg-MDA is 90 for 1 gram
>>707616>tfw you only know one guy for weed who doesn't know anybody else>tfw he loses his connections and you're bone dryI'd pay $20 for a hit of LSD, seriously.
>tfw you only know one guy for weed who doesn't know anybody else>tfw he loses his connections and you're bone dry
lsd 10 a tab but I would pay 20 for a tested tab >100ugshrooms 35-40 an eighthmdma 80/grc's/cheap phens out the wazoo for $1 or less a dose. Hell yes for 2c-b,c,t2,e at less than a buck a dose
Acid is gonna cost a lot more than 10 bux 15 usually but theres a chance it's fake and 20 its got more of a chace of being real!
Interestingly enough, I had one of my most profound thoughts ever while on 25i, which I never found quite deep.It may seem obvious or simple to most of you, but at least I found it sort of groundbreaking for my character.Of every action, there are three different outcomes morally. The one with personal gain. The one that only gains you, the selfish thing to do.No one else will have a positive effect on this, not the people you love, nor the general population. In the end, this may cause you to lose your friends and you'll be viewed as a tragic figure.Then it is the one that gains the few, your friends, family and loved ones.You will probably be loved, or at least greatly apprecieted by your friends. It will however, be at the expense of yourself and the general population.And it's the last one. "The greater good". You'll not be rewarded, your friends and family may shun you, not quite understanding why you chose people you don't know over them. But it will be a truly good act.Does anyone think I'm on to something? Or have anyone else had a moment like this on 25i?Ending my trip with staying indoors watching Breaking Bad, totally a good time.
>>707602The more we're a dick about it now, the more OP will think about it in the NEXT trip, and by then he has absorbed our replies and then he'll use our antithesis onto his thesis, creating a synthesis!And then he'll get back online and tell us his ideas again.And we'll shit all over his ideas again!And the next time he'll trip, he'll take our shit, turn it into an antithesis, add it to his thesis, and turn it in a synthesis.And that goes on and on and on and on, and perhaps in 60 years a famous internet philosopher will write an actual philosophy based on that random bit of thinking that had been drifting on the internet.
>>707589>>707593You STILL do NOT understand. Can you go murder somebody without anything happening to you? What happens if you don't get caught? Your life revolves around you not being caught, and you probably feel like shit. As a result of not being caught, you live a stressful life knowing that if anyone finds out you killed someone in cold blood, you're fucked. I DARE YOU TO TELL ME THAT'S NOT TRUE. PUT ASIDE KARMA FOR A DAMN SECOND. IS IT TRUE? If you say no, you must be in denial. If you say yes, then congratulations, you just approved karma.KARMA IS NOT MAGICAL. KARMA IS JUST SANSKRIT FOR CAUSE AND EFFECT.DO YOU BELIEVE IN CAUSE AND EFFECT?DO YOU HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF YOU DO BAD THINGS RIGHT, ONLY GOOD THINGS WILL HAPPEN TO YOU BECAUSE OF THAT BAD ACTION AND NOT SOMETHING ELSE?I bet you use your excuse that morals are bullshit to live an immoral life, right? How many times do you get pissed off or frustrated in a single day? Do you ever think about what causes that to happen, or do you just brush it off and continue living your life in pure ignorance of the consequence of any action you make?To deny karma is to say that you can't get the death penalty for murdering somebody. NO, I AM NOT SAYING that the universe judged you and made this karma happen. I'm saying that it JUST HAPPENED. As soon as you realize how this works you'll see what Karma REALLY is. You will see that Karma is NOT religious magical bullshit. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>707614Yes but there is a difference between criticism and just being a dick.
>>707615>Can you go murder somebody without anything happening to you?Yes.>What happens if you don't get caught?Depends on the murder, you personally, your location on the world, the method of murder, the rationale behind the murder. Impossibly to tell.>Your life revolves around you not being caught, and you probably feel like shit.Doesn't have to be. Plenty of people have killed people without even caring. Normal people, not psychopaths.>As a result of not being caught, you live a stressful life knowing that if anyone finds out you killed someone in cold blood, you're fucked.Like I said, doesn't have to be. Life isn't black and white. Life is far far far far far bigger, far more confusing, far less rigid, and there are ALWAYS more exceptions to the rule than rules.No, what you said isn't true.>I bet you use your excuse that morals are bullshit to live an immoral life, right?Exactly. Morals are bullshit. You know why?"Morals are laid down by religions. Memes. Cultural constructs. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Can you go murder somebody without anything happening to you?
>What happens if you don't get caught?
>Your life revolves around you not being caught, and you probably feel like shit.
>As a result of not being caught, you live a stressful life knowing that if anyone finds out you killed someone in cold blood, you're fucked.
>I bet you use your excuse that morals are bullshit to live an immoral life, right?
>Depends on the murder, you personally, your location on the world, the method of murder, the rationale behind the murder. Impossibly to tell.>the rationale behind the murderThat's intent. So you are saying that intent is important. Which it is, especially in the case of karma.>Doesn't have to be. Plenty of people have killed people without even caring. Normal people, not psychopaths.Really? They weren't psychopaths? Prove it. Also, it's important to realize that murder is a bad action not just because it's harming somebody's life which they deeply value, but because it's caused by one of the following motives: harm, stealing, desire for sensual pleasure, covetousness, ill will, or wrong view (for example you think that they're a government-controlled alien sent to kill you). If killing isn't motivated by any of those, then what is it motivated by? To end their suffering as with a terminally ill patient who wishes to die? That's not bad, because you're helping them. And if somebody THINKS somebody is suffering when they're not, that's simply wrong-view.>Like I said, doesn't have to be. Life isn't black and white. Life is far far far far far bigger, far more confusing, far less rigid, and there are ALWAYS more exceptions to the rule than rules.That was only an example of one of the many possibilites of a bad outcome of an action. Please remember that the intent is important when it comes to the outcome, read the previous paragraph.>Exactly. Morals are bullshit. You know why?"Morals are laid down by religions. Memes. Cultural constructs.So you're saying that ill-will and all of the other bad qualities listed are good? You're saying that they can have a good effect on people? Can you prove this somehow?What happens when you come across a little baby who has never learned religion or morale, and you take their candy. Are you saying that because they have no concept of morale, that they won't cry? Them crying is suffering, you stealing their candy caused them this suffering, thus stealing is immoral. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>Depends on the murder, you personally, your location on the world, the method of murder, the rationale behind the murder. Impossibly to tell.>the rationale behind the murder
>Doesn't have to be. Plenty of people have killed people without even caring. Normal people, not psychopaths.
>Like I said, doesn't have to be. Life isn't black and white. Life is far far far far far bigger, far more confusing, far less rigid, and there are ALWAYS more exceptions to the rule than rules.
>Exactly. Morals are bullshit. You know why?"Morals are laid down by religions. Memes. Cultural constructs.
i know alot of psy doesnt like the opi use but you got to remember alot of our brothen is turn around guys who were hard into fucky shit,i personaly made the switch from hardcore pharm use about 2 years ago and ive done 3 mushroom trips 4 nbome trips and ive done most of the 5-sub/4-aco/4-ho tryptamines, 2c 's and mdma and all its cousins +some mxe and its all because i lurked here all the time, if i would have not opened my mind to the world and stayed in my small rurall pillhead town id be dead by now, so thanks psy, btw i used all this before hand:all benz{valium,xanex,etzolam,larazepam, } stim methylphenidate,adderal,amp's(ghostbuster amphetamine pills)opi(fentanyl,codine, hydrocodone,(1$per)30mgDEMEROL,20-40mg oxy,6mg hydromorphone iv,) and was allways a big weed fan that could never get mushrooms, one day a friend comes over and tells me he doesnt want to see me keep doing to the point where the actual addiction sets in and gives me a cap of 2c-p UNSCALED i scooped somewhere between 10mg-60mg (now that ive done 3 grams of it im thinking around 20-35mg of pure) and it totally brought me into a 3rd person perspective to see what i had been doing to myself, ever since that 28 hour trip all alone in my room ive been a weed psy and ocasional benz user, i smoke weed more medically and at parties more now. thanks guys
Awesome dude, glad to hear it! Psychedelics can potentially be very healing compounds.
things to help an acid comedown?thanks in advance
>>707567one xanax and one beer ain't gonna hurt you.
Salvia.
>>707568True, but alprazolam still sucks.
Marijuana
>>707567Unless you want to have fun.
Just popped 2 tabs of 25c under the tongue, anyone got some good suggestions on what do to? Already explored the shit out of my room last time
>>707591Shut down lights and jump into the psychedelic experience. Don't try to keep yourself busy.
ARE YOU DUMB?ARE YOU DENSE?>takes 2 tabs of 25c>has already explored the shit out of his roomTHE FUCKING HALLWAY YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKER!You start exploring the hallway.
>takes 2 tabs of 25c>has already explored the shit out of his room
>>707595On a serious note, you tell me, derek jones... you tell me.The only information you've given is 2 tabs of 25c and you already explored your room.That's... a shallow information pool. I need more to make a proper trip assessment.
>>707591was last week, already tried a few 2c's and 25i a few times, friend said 25c is the way to go. Had a good time exploring my room last time, bed = desert. Duvet turned into what i can only describe as one massive red glowing fiber. Ventured outside for 20 mins but was too cold for my liking.Doubled up tonight, looking forward to another fun night. Dunno whether i should have waited for abit longer than a week>800ug tabs
>800ug tabs
>>707606I'd say go outside and wear something.>implying it's ever too cold to trip outsidePeople invented clothes for such occasions man!
>implying it's ever too cold to trip outside
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