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Anyone come across these blotters before? I bought them on the assumption that they contain lsd, but i've found conflicting info online.  is some spanish website that a photo of two of the same blotters with the caption "chemical: 25x."  is just a photo of some faggot on tumblr that has the same blotters and is tagged 25b-nbome. There's also , which is i guess just the blotter paper, but apparently has been used for lsd.tl;dr has anyone come across them and was able to tell if there's lsd on them or some other rc. I bought them from someone around the detroit area, if that helps.http://psycored.com.ar/showthread.php?10-Lista-de-cartones-en-circulacion-(-13)http://ionicisotope.tumblr.com/post/67646710900http://www.key-z.com/special.html (L26 Snoopy blotter art)
Never assume anything based on the blotter art as they can be easily reproduced and laid with a different chemical. The only way to know is to stick it in your mouth really. If it has a very bitter taste and/or numbs your mouth, then you likely have an nbome. If not, you may have LSD (though keep in mind sometimes LSD may have a slight taste to it, but it's never very strong). Either way, swallowing it is a surefire way to make sure you're getting LSD as nbomes aren't active in the stomach. Good luck.
>>754773That's what i figured. Me and a friend were planning on cosuming these with a quarter oz of shrooms this weekend. dunno if we'll take these because i know fuck all about nbomes, other than they seem to have a bad reputation on /psy/.on a related note, are 25x-nbome blotters usually larger? I thought you needed a larger dose than with lsd. i could also be wrong and/or an faget and not know what i'm talking about.
No way to know for sure whether you got LSD or NBOMe's, but if you're really trying to avoid the NBOMe experience (as I don't really enjoy NBOMe's and would rather not trip than endure that uncomfortable 6ish hours), just swallow it. I can't stand chems with wack body highs, so I've never really been down to get N-bombed.
>>754773I have a similar question somewhat related to 25x and LSD. The first time I tripped on LSD I think now that it might not be LSD. It had a taste to it but it was bitter and it didn't numb my tongue. I held it in my mouth for 1 min or so then swallowed it and I didn't feel any effects till an hour later. Now was this an NBOME or LSD because there was a taste but I had no other body load features common to NBOME.
I don't know why I feel compelled to share this. I wrote it for me. But maybe /psy will enjoy it. It's not done yet. But I plan to write the second half when I wake up tomorrow so I can come back and post the rest if anybody gives a shit. Happy tripping everybody! I love you all! So my night was meant to relatively simple. Two friends (let’s call them Daniel and Lisa) were gonna come over to take some mushrooms. They had been dating for 2 years, but had broken up recently and thought a trip could help them sort through their resentment. They wanted me there to help them both out. I love the hell out of them both, so I agreed to join. We were just going to stay inside, and just have some time together. I looked forward to having a chance to connect with them on a level deeper than just smoking some pot. Plus, I thought it was a good idea. I could tell each of them the hard truth they needed to hear, and yet keep them grounded and not at eachothers throats. Boy, what an adventure that was. It was late in the day and still had not contacted me. I was beginning to think that this gathering was going to happen much later than I anticipated. It was about that time that my other friend (he’ll be Sam) contacted me saying that he was coming down to the city for a concert, and was wondering if I wanted to go with him. It had been months since I had seen him and it was high time we catch up. I said that I wasn’t sure about going to the show, because of my previous arrangement with Daniel and Lisa, but I told him to come over to my house and we could hang out for a while, giving him the opportunity to convince me go to the show. He also wanted to buy just a bit of MXE from me while he was down here; so now all of that is on the table. Sam arrived at around 4:00. We smoked some weed, regaled each other with stories of shit we had done since our previous encounter, and discussed the concert. Apparently they were a Grateful Dead cover band (Dark Star Orchestra), and people tend to agree that it’s fairly authentic. Doors were gonna open at 7:00, and at 5:30 I still hadn’t heard from Daniel or Lisa. I decided I would go with Sam, and I could meet Daniel and Lisa back at my house after the concert. Me and Sam each did a nice line of MXE (a substance we both have experience with, although I more than he) and got our stuff together. At 6:00, I took a tiny bump to keep me going until we got to the venue; and we hopped on the subway. Navigating Time Square on MXE was kinda difficult, but we got to the venue without trouble and somebody immediately offered me a ticket for $20 when they were $32 at the door. Deal! After a short moment of anxiety at security, we were inside. This is of course the time that I got a call from Daniel saying he’s on his way to my house with Lisa and they’re ready to do some mushrooms. After 15 minutes of laborious logistics, we concluded that Lisa and Daniel would waste time until they were bored, and then could get the doorman to let them into my house whenever they needed shelter from the cold. Their faces would be familiar, and I would tell the doorman to be expecting them. I would come home when the concert was over. Everybody was going to get what they wanted. Sam and I walked down the stairs and into the main part of the venue. We peeked into the auditorium or whatever you’d call it (It is predominantly a dance floor, but there is also extensive seating), but it was empty, so we headed to the bathroom for another bump. Sam went in, took a piss and a bump; came out, handed me the bag; I went and took a piss and a bump. Having gotten ourselves a little wonky for the wait until the show (it was probably 7:30 at this point) we took a seat near the front of the section and got comfortable. No more than five minutes later a young hippie lookin’ dude approached us. He had long, strawberry-blonde hair hanging in idiosyncratic waves down his back, wearing a tye-dye t-shirt and accompanied by a cute girl in a nice dress. She had brown hair, very straight and down to the middle of her back. She was smiling vibrantly. “Hey man, I know this is kind of a longshot, but I lost my wallet with my ID everything, and I just wanna get a beer. I’ll give you some acid if you get me one. I just lost my wallet you know.” Wait what? Acid? Shit— “I’m sorry man, we’re not 21," I said apologetically.We had a momentary interchange about the tragedy of losing a wallet in which he said, and I won’t forget it: “Yeah man. Ya know, I just didn’t want to ask any of the old people for a brew. You guys seemed like you’d be cool.” I said I was sorry I couldn’t help. He looked at the girl, and then back at us. “Have a good show guys.” I saw him rip a piece of paper up, and he handed me a ragged strip of it, with no pretense of delineated dosages. I barely even looked at what he had handed me; I just tore it in halfish and gave Sam his share. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>754322I hope this night never ends! Where you learn to write bro beans?
>>754322real nice report man, excellent writing skills as well so that gives it that extra level of interest. Anyway the only two things I would like to add/comment on are:>Do you not have access to ketamine? I prefer it in general to MXE and it is so intense with acid. >Have you ever tried LSD+MXE+MDMA?
>Do you not have access to ketamine? I prefer it in general to MXE and it is so intense with acid. >Have you ever tried LSD+MXE+MDMA?
>>754370MXE is much gentler and sweeter in my case nb
>>754361>>754370First of all, thank you guys so much. I wouldn't have had the inspiration to keep going on this if it weren't for you're support.At Mr Shoe: I have some access to Ketamine, but it's from some people I don't necessarily want to with regularly. I also can't afford K really, I just can't justify putting $40+ up my nose in one night until I have a more stable income. I have done that combo at a festival once. I had been doing MXE all of the first night and into the morning without sleeping. When I did Candyflipped the second day it snapped me out of all the residual dissociation literally the instant the acid and molly peaked, and they peaked at the same time. I went from sleepy and fucked up, to clearheaded and tripping and dancing my balls off, only to go back and do K later that night. So yeah shit is awesome. I'll have more of the TR later today.
Lets get an LSA thread going! Talk about it, why you like (Or dislike it) and everything about it. Let me tell you what I've been in consideration of doing>Found a guy on Ebay. Sells about 100 HBWR (Hawaiian Strain) for a good 10-12 bucks (USD)>Very reliable looking, always good reviews on his, he sells plant materials and seeds for extraction.>I was planning on doing the Alcohol based extraction, counting out the seeds and weighing them after counting them out. Then weight the after material after it's been extracted, so I can see how much substance is equal to 1 seed.>After having the odd goop that LSA is, I was going to get dark chocolate to heat up, and pour it into molds, and right before it cooled to solidifying, add in the goop. Obviously I would've measured out the dose for each one, so I would essentially have Shroom Chocolate, except instead of shrooms, it would be LSA.>I've heard of people using the seeds to make brownies and all other sorts, and have amazing ideas.What does /psy/ think?
>Found a guy on Ebay. Sells about 100 HBWR (Hawaiian Strain) for a good 10-12 bucks (USD)
>Very reliable looking, always good reviews on his, he sells plant materials and seeds for extraction.
>I was planning on doing the Alcohol based extraction, counting out the seeds and weighing them after counting them out. Then weight the after material after it's been extracted, so I can see how much substance is equal to 1 seed.
>After having the odd goop that LSA is, I was going to get dark chocolate to heat up, and pour it into molds, and right before it cooled to solidifying, add in the goop. Obviously I would've measured out the dose for each one, so I would essentially have Shroom Chocolate, except instead of shrooms, it would be LSA.
>I've heard of people using the seeds to make brownies and all other sorts, and have amazing ideas.
HEY HEY HEY!I got quads, of 4's. Kick ass.
Does LSA have a body load? I've done Morning Glories once. I stuck the seed powder in my lip like dip and sucked on that for a while. Then i ate the seeds. Holy shit, felt so bad. Kinda cool trip though. Took hours for it to hit though. Does LSA have vasoconstriction associated with the seeds or does the seeds cause the body load while the LSA runs its course?
>>754452LSA has immense body load. i felt like I was stoned off my ass and drunk when I walked. and yes it does cause vasconstriction and yes it is noticeable. Just smoke some weed or warm your body up. it's nothing too serious.
Ive found that drinking water throughout the trip keeps you from feeling sick. but you have to drink like at least one bottle of water if not more throughout the trip. IT COMPLETELY MAKES YOU FEEL BETTER. NO MORE FEELING POISONED.Although you do have to pee alot. But this works for me 100% and i would be interested to see if this works for other people.oh and btw the water has to be alkaline. so no tap water. i drink fiji water and that is the only water ive drank that works for this. tap water makes me feel even sicker on lsa.
if you live where its legal. that is all.
why just where its legal? what difference does it make? because in my experience, legality means jack shit.
>>754758because if you are going to procure illegal psychedelics of that type you are much better off just getting real LSD instead of some shitty knockoff designer drugs
>>754761>real LSDMeh how can you ever REALLY be 100% sure?
>>754763When you get LSD, you fucking KNOW dude. It's always been clear as day to me. Like I've gotten NBOMe's I've gotten shitty acid that I can't say was NBOMe but I know was nothing special. When you get LSD, even a light dose is beautiful.
[shitfluck]Why not LSD?[/shitfluck]
Hi guys! My girlfriend and I had an incredible experience with 4-AcO-DMT this past weekend. It was really deep and personal, and ultimately therapeutic. I love the nature of this drug and I'm interested in other tryptamines which are similar. I found a vendor that sells the following drugs:4-AcO-MET5-MeO-MiPT4-HO-DET4-AcO-DiPTMETI would love to order more 4-AcO-DMT, but it's out of stock, though I wouldn't mind trying something new anyway. Any suggestions? As a side note, i want something that's active orally, which is why I didn't include DPT on the list (even though it sounds amazing)Thanks for your help :)
Had a combination of LSD and MDMA the last weekend. The rest of the week I was recovering with down and/or strange psy thoughts. Anyway was smokign weed this weekend that's just passed by and I didn't feel high at all. I knew by my actions that I was high, enjoying music, feeling hungry, just ready to chill. But my vision wasn't high vision. It was crystal clear as if I was on MDMA. I felt sober. Any ideas why? I smoked quite a bit as well, about a third of an 8th.
Weed usually gets more intense in the days after tripping. Maybe your weed is shit?
>a third of an 8thso a 24th, lolWeed always feels much different for me in the week or two right after a trip, it's completely normal
>a third of an 8th
>>754726how often people say stuff like that to each other, it's like some weird rude internet thing. No it was good, everyone aroudn me was high as hell
I have the chance to buy a hit of DOC or 25i NBOME, both im assuming of good doseWhich one to choose and why?
>>754759>you can only fit 1mg on a tab
>you can only fit 1mg on a tab
From my knowledge, 1 hit DOC isn't worth it. It won't be much of a trip if anything at all. As for the 25i, I only had it on blotter once. And it was decent, but one tab really wasn't enough. But I'm also more used to have about 1.5 to 2 hits. I can't give an exact because it was in a solution where 1 ml was approximately 1 hit. But my experience with 1 hit on blotter was underwhelming and I just kept waiting to see the crazy visuals I was used to. I would recommend 2 tabs of 25i blotter. But I won't tell you to do that because the overdose threshold is easy to cross with nbome and I don't know what the dosage was of my blotter or what yours will be. As for the experience, a lot of people hate it. But it is the most visually intense drug I've ever taken and it was one hell of a ride. A confusing, deranged, and beautiful ride
>>754762I don't know man, depends on the blot. 1 hit of 25i for me was actually overwhelming. Id only do 1 if that even...
Probably the 25i. It really isn't that bad, but people on this board hate it with a passion. Like some people have said though, 1 hit won't do much.
>>754756never tried DOC but I had a DOB blotter that blew my socks off with amazing visuals. I got extremely hot and sweaty though and the body feeling was somewhat uncomfortable and made me restless. Ive also tried 25i nbome several times. One hit was plenty strong for me and almost overwhelming for others. I felt there was less of a body load, was much easier to get comfortable on and had a lot less anxiety but also slightly less visual in my experience. both had very long durations. I would probably say go with the 25i
Is it alright to try mushrooms while on accutane. Im already 5 months into treatment and have extremely dry skin and lips. I know it may cause depression but i feel that Ive been just as depressed as i was before the the treatment.But I heard people saying that mushrooms cured their depression and i was hoping that it could do the same to me before I was taking accutane, and i put it off for 5 months and i was just wondering it it was still safe.
>>754504It isnt safe to be on accutane period.
>>754711>How about attend to your health so you have to take LESS pharmaceuticals for a SHORTER period of time and don't end up having to keep giving them money forever. I don't think you quite understand how accutane works, it is not something you take forever it is a cure, I took it for 9 months and never had acne again besides an occasional zit every few months, before that I had acne everywhere, this was like 8 years ago btw.>>754712I didn't fucking have acne because I was a lazy greasy piece of shit, it was in high school, I was on the fucking wrestling team and my mom made me dinner every night, I had acne because I was fucking 14 and no amount of fucking diet or lifestyle changes was going to make a difference any more than proactiv, shitty acne wipes or even the first prescription I got, accutane fucking cleared it right up in months, well it didn't work for the first few months until they raised the dose, I had the cholesterol of a clinically obese person for a few months but god dammit I never had acne any more and I still have a bunch of acne scars on my face and tbh I wish I had done it earlier
>How about attend to your health so you have to take LESS pharmaceuticals for a SHORTER period of time and don't end up having to keep giving them money forever.
>>754724>I had the cholesterol of a clinically obese person for a few monthsStop lying you WERE obese, and probably still are.
>I had the cholesterol of a clinically obese person for a few months
>>754585>eat healthy>drink a milkshake everydayuhhh
>eat healthy>drink a milkshake everyday
So I recently became curious about breakthrhough doses of different substances. More specifically, I have been curious to try to breakthrough or dose large quantities of drugs, specifically acid. I have broken through once on dmt but not for very long, and I would say that overall the experience was fairly light. Now I am contemplating dosing 5 hits of strong acid I have or 3 tabs and 5-10mg DOM. Can anyone describe what a breakthrough experience on acid is like in words? How about mental and bodily function - will I be wanting to go hiking, or not be able to get out of bed, ect? I am thinking I could just listen to music and chill the whole time. Mentally, i believe I am prepared for it, and ready "let go" if my ego gets lost. Other than that, general advice, stories, suggested doses, anything is welcome, post away! SLAYER to everyone!
>Can anyone describe what a breakthrough experience on acid is like in words?No, that's the point. You lose all points of reference. The "words" part of your brain is completely interrupted on a breakthrough. That's what makes it a breakthrough.But, the closest metaphors are those to describe deep spiritual or religious experiences. "Meeting God", "a sneak peak into afterlife", "the source of existence", etc etc, not that I believe these metaphors are accurate but they give you some idea of what you're in for.This is from a guy describing a thumbprint dose, but I feel it's relevant to describe a breakthrough as well:>You melt into eternety. You let go and die into the moment which is all. There is no you anymore only all. The intensity of this can't be described, but you realize as your sliping away that it's familar.This is because it become quite clear this is exactlly what happens when you die. After an eternity you slowly start to come back in pieces. You feel reborn and a completely different person. You don't ever come completely down or back. This isn't a bad thing ,but it's very scary at first.
>Can anyone describe what a breakthrough experience on acid is like in words?
>You melt into eternety. You let go and die into the moment which is all. There is no you anymore only all. The intensity of this can't be described, but you realize as your sliping away that it's familar.This is because it become quite clear this is exactlly what happens when you die. After an eternity you slowly start to come back in pieces. You feel reborn and a completely different person. You don't ever come completely down or back. This isn't a bad thing ,but it's very scary at first.
>>754745Oh, except that last bit, I certainly "came back" after my breakthroughs. I was never "the same" again, but I'm definitely back.
Haha funny, I just reread that thumbprint quote yesterday. I have studied larg doses a lot, i just wanted to see if anyone had any more info to offer before I dive into my adventure (hopefully this upcoming friday). I am going into it with an open mind that I am ready to experience whatever it has to offer. And should I have a sitter? What is a person that goes through a large dose trip like, how do they act and whats the level of conciousness? Im not talking immense, thumbprint doses or anything. Thanks for the help.
So I've really had a hard-on for 2C-B these days, and I keep stumbling upon threads on various forums ascribing a legendary status to the 2C-B/MDxx combo. It seems that most people tend to use MDMA, but I was thinking of going with MDA. I have a few questions for those of you who have tried this intriguing experiment:1.) Do you think it's wise to choose MDA, or would I be better off with MDMA?and, most importantly:2.) What order should I take them in? Some reports have people taking them both at T 0:00, some say take the MDxx then take the 2C-B at T +4:00, others say wait and take the 2C-B at the comedown from the MDxx. Even more confusingly, some people mix it up and seem to take the 2-CB and then the MDxx! I don't know who to trust.3.) Any ideas on appropriate/safe/effective dosing?Any input is greatly appreciated, and I hope maybe this thread helps someone who is considering the same combo.
Bumping for personal interest. Looking to do this on New Years Eve, possibly.
Take them both at the same time, you can always redose 2C-B if you need to.But that's just my opinion, I've never done that combo.
>>754427The first and only time I've done this combo was by accident as I took a cap that I thought was MDMA but later turned out to be MDMA. My dosing scheme was T 0:00 - MDMA (say your usual dosage), then T 0:30 2-cb. Once they both peak if I'm happy with where I'm at then I won't redose the MDMA. There are reports on people taking the 2cb after you've completely come down from the MDMA (or on your way) but I'd rather not make my brain go through another experience after having just done MDMA.Start conservatively, 15-20mg 2cb with 150mg mdma. Overall, the experience was surprisingly and I enjoyed it thoroughly.
I'll be trying DMT for the first time within the month. This has been a long awaited moment and I want to know how I should experience my first trip. Part of me wants to experience god and take 6.5 points vaped but after hearing what my friend told me I have reservations. He said that DMT smoked -right- before breakthrough is psychedelic and dissociative, which sounds fucking magical. I'll have enough to experience both types of trip in the same night but I'd still like to know what you guys prefer.
First of all, your friend is a fucking idiot.>He said that DMT smoked -right- before breakthrough is psychedelic and dissociativeNo. Just no.>6.5 pointsNobody measures DMT in "points". Just say how many mg you're talking about and we might understand you.Anyway, just try hold the smoke in as long as you can, don't burn the DMT, don't cough, and don't have any expectations going in. The less you think about it, the better.
>He said that DMT smoked -right- before breakthrough is psychedelic and dissociative
>>754740I phrased that badly, sorry. *smoked to the point right before breaking through
>>754744Yes I know what you meant, but DMT cannot act like a dissociative, no matter how you smoke it. It's a straight up psychedelic.
So i just got a shroom out of my growkit.,.. it's so fucking HUGE. It's like 17cm and has more girth like my erect dick (which is a lot! I mean it's not superlarge but my girth is AAA) It's 40g fresh, just that single shroom. I'm scared that this glorious manifest of manhood will lose it's effect when i dry it so i'm asking you for help. What i did was wrap the shroom inside kitchenpaper (Zewa) and put it on the heater, i know that it's suggested to use this one thing that you can buy from those stores and put the shrooms in a box with it but without letting them touch them (can't remember the name, sorry) but i've also read that it's just the BEST way, not the only way. Please help, thanks
>>754687I'm 21 and I still live with my mom (Shit economy and insane housing prices). I sometimes freeze them, just chop it up until it no longer resembles a mushroom and then store it in the back of the freezer.
>>754689Oh, and put it in a plastic bag, if that isn't a given.
If you want to dry it, you could make yourself a drying box, just take your computer fan, and link it to your average cellphone charger. The fan won't go fast, but will should produce a nice air-stream. Now, cut a hole in a shoe box (or something like that), and attach the fan, which should pull the air inside the box. Then cut out some fairly discrete holes on the opposite side of the box , I made 2 thin, long rectangular holes, without cutting the top edge of the rectangles, so, bending the cardboard, i made the airflow going out go downward.Then take some paper towel and put few sheets on the bottom of the box. This mushroom seems fairly large, so i reccomend cutting it into smaller pieces. After 2-3 days of constantly being exposed to the airflow in dry, warm-ish environment (but not too much), the mushroom should significantly reduce its mass, giving off water. You should rotate the mushrooms a few times during that time. If you stop your fan when the mushroom is still wet, it could slightly turn its color to green-blue hue, it doesn't affect it in any negative way, but doesn't look very tasty however.Peace!
When I grew my first flush I just put them on some newspaper with a huge fan blowing on them for about a day, they didn't get cracker dry so I put them in a small container with some old silica gel. That shit didn't work either but all the moisture that was left in the stems kinda redistributed along the shrooms, so I put them in front of the fan for a second time and BAM, they were 97% cracker dry.I better invest in a food dehydrator or something..
Food dehydrator is 100% best way. Pick them, put them in on the desired setting and boom, cracker dry ready to be powdered in coffee grinder. Put them in a jar with silica gel in a dark room temperature place and they easily last over a year with next to no loss of potency.
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