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Tryptamines on Lysergi by David Bandlespear - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 23:03:06 EST ID:BCqdO4RO No.892986 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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give me the lowdown fam, what's good on there?

i've done 4-AcO-MET and 4-HO-MET in the past; first was pretty cool but made me puke and had less visuals, but was very lucid, while the latter was amazing (watched baby driver on it in theaters)

how do the other substituted tryptamines compare? what are the good and bad ones?

and then, what are MET/DET/DPT and the other one like? ive read about DPT and its "fucked up DMT" reputation but know nothing about the others


Things that are terrifying of psychedelics by Cyril Drollerladge - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 03:51:06 EST ID:55z6EL6e No.892966 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post things that would be awful to see on /psy/
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Edwin Hoshsork - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 05:38:58 EST ID:RITs19J7 No.892968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i would but i dont have a picture of you op
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Eugene Mocklebury - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 22:37:11 EST ID:9QXjfCXe No.892985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892968
duh troof


Using Kratom to cancel a bad trip by Kratom for BAD TRIPS - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:15:44 EST ID:jKhb9GNT No.892964 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just dosed an eighth of Brazilian Cubensis, hasnt't hit yet. But just in case, does anyone here have an experience using small doses of kratom to kill bad trips? Any tips?
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Isabella Brankintot - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:21:23 EST ID:/XDFVZ5V No.892970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Opiates may kill the trip a bit and make you calm but it's better to have benzos with you
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Archie Negglebanks - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:26:18 EST ID:PSYZ/5zj No.892977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yes. it works. you'll puke. but it works.
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Basil Billinglock - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 21:07:09 EST ID:0V3+Wway No.892984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892964
Kava would probably work better than kratom as kava helps with anxiety which fuels bad trips.


Best psy drug to combine with DXM-DPH 500mg-500mg by Reuben Blingerville - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:28:05 EST ID:nNcd4tVJ No.892980 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is a good psy drug to combine with dxm-dph 500mg-500mg drug combo? It's my favorite drug and I'm looking to combine with a psy drug for dis-del-psy combo. I had mescaline or mushrooms in mind and RC psys. What is better a more stimulating or sedating psy like phenethylamines or tryptamines and lvl 8a or 8b geometry?
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:41:43 EST ID:OAvvEYgq No.892982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>892980
I had great success with 4-AcO-MET but it’s tricky. You shouldn’t dose them all at once. My first /psy/dis/del/ attempt was 500/500 + 50mg 4-AcO-MET dosed all at once and it was a confusing mess. You have to space our the dosing. DXM first (ideally polistirex) then /psy/ on the come-up. Then dose DPH when both of those are already peaking fully. My best recipe though was Delsym at t=0:00, then 4-AcO-MET at t+2:00 and DPH at t+6:00, but I think those numbers could be optimized more.

It’ll take a few tries to get it right regardless though. Be prepared for some trial and error.
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:42:48 EST ID:OAvvEYgq No.892983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892982
I imagine a lysergamide would work really well too but I never ran any successful experiments with them.


Shrooms and Depression by Shitting Bablingbedging - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 04:57:28 EST ID:qij0dN3v No.892899 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey lads. So I finally got around to growing shrooms, and I was wondering if any of you have ever found or used shrooms to help with your clinical depression.
What do you think?
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Molly Brookshaw - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 23:37:14 EST ID:3+lT8yZd No.892965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lsd from my experience is way better for a pick me up
shrooms are more like being sprayed with a high pressure fire hose while LSD is like taking a dip in a bath

but mdma is like taking a dip in a jacuzzi. i'd say if you want to try solve your mental problems with drugs then MDMA is the best option. psychedelics aren't really a good option. they make you think hard about life but after its over you're left trying to figure out what just happened if that makes sense and can leave you feeling off for days after. mdma you just feel good and think wow life is really good, the after of mdma is like a nice sunset. just gotta keep the positivity you get from the mdma and keep like that
im no psychiatrist though i got schizophrenia
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Lillian Hongerdock - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 04:13:29 EST ID:XPbVfvdO No.892967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Careful, trying to cure depression with shrooms is grounds for addiction.
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Graham Musslemot - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 11:33:31 EST ID:bDYMg8HY No.892973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892965
Don't use MDMA for that. It's really hard on the receptors in your brain and it depletes serotonin. If you're depressed it could be fun during but you could crash hard after.
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Lydia Bunwater - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 16:02:15 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.892976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892967
what does this statement mean? grounds for ... psychedelic addiction? they aren't addictive nibber.
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Eliza Billingfoot - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 20:40:13 EST ID:XmKcUBSR No.892981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
drugs and depression go hand in hand. Lets spark your life up and fuel it with something new and exciting. Suddenly you have a new intetest. But it is harmless right? And you do your research. You scale it down, something potent so you flexing w a .3 digit scale. Look at you being smart sterile n intelectual b. Nah just white trash. You are no different.

Homie get some woods n do it the stoopid way lets drool out of next school i just am so ich bin zo

Ekther Vjlo Dge huyk

You wanna go azerbaijan with the 7 dwarfs?


.

Dont do it fool. Really. 😡🤮🤒🤕

Jk i reccomend u 2


intergrate psychedelics by David Miblingbat - Fri, 12 Oct 2018 17:24:34 EST ID:g+WWltaK No.892798 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are we not supposed to live like that? Is it possible to live a normal life with a hint of the psychedelic beauty all the time? It seems like life should be beautiful but lately its not it looks so dreary and I don't know how to integrate what I love about dmt and psychedleics into my life. They seem like two different separate worlds.

and I just wait for my tollerence to go down a couploe days so I can take acid or mushrooms and remember how beautiful everything is, and I know that's wrong but it feels also wrong to live a life separate from that feeling and I forget about it so quickly


were some of you able to find a life where you can see this beauty all the time
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Fanny Hucklehood - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 23:24:06 EST ID:EzFAU0+W No.892911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892798
The only way to bring something back with you from the trip is to learn some specific lesson from it. Next time you trip pay closer attention to what’s going on. What about the trip do you find so compelling, and so lacking in your everyday life? If you can boil it down to that, you’ll be well on your way to integrating psychedelia into your everyday existence.
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William Blytheville - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 01:30:35 EST ID:4pbFlSEs No.892912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>892798

aye
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Esther Checklestone - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 03:22:12 EST ID:XI08evX6 No.892916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892878
What is wrong with that? You can't be high all the time, can you now?
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Archie Grimdock - Thu, 18 Oct 2018 05:14:43 EST ID:qPgZesFu No.892917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892916

oh ffs..not what i meant.
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Graham Derryledge - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:37:44 EST ID:g99IWx5V No.892979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892798

It's possible, microdosing is one way. The other is to use them less frequently. I think everyone reaches a point where they need to take a break, trying to do a heroic dose of shrooms made me not want to do them for a couple of years.


Dmt by David Blatherbanks - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 16:36:53 EST ID:R80K2ptu No.892953 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Where do I find dmt in a City?
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Rebecca Claywill - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 17:54:31 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.892954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892953

in every living being?
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Shitting Clazzlesidge - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:47:18 EST ID:XSbAI4Jn No.892955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just buy it from the internet you doofus
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Edward Worthingham - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 07:59:21 EST ID:R80K2ptu No.892969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892954
Lol going to go murder some one and Extrakt it from theme
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Simon Gongerstone - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 08:50:47 EST ID:ou8s6SmI No.892971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892969

Fuck that, I'm not going to prison. I'm just going to smoke myself
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Ebenezer Clenkinburk - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 18:33:44 EST ID:YaBnI+yO No.892978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892969
You should watch the film Banshee Chapter


psychedelics after SSRI by Shitting Clazzlesidge - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:32:25 EST ID:XSbAI4Jn No.892949 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so, I've been on SSRI's for the last 6 months. I tapered off vortioxetine succesfully for a month until completely dropping it altogether. at the time of this post, I have been 1 month off this things completely. the whys are long and not interesting tbh, but needless to say i'm feeling just as good if not better without them.


anyways, I'd like to have a final trip to tie the whole year together. I'm not sure how long should I wait at the very least, I'm still feeling residual effects from the SSRI. Even weed got to an unpleasant point, so I had to drop it as well.

I hope someone here has undergone the same as I did, and to you I ask: did anything changed? How long did you waited till tripping again? I mean, at some point my nervous system has to both balance its serotonin levels, and free the 5ht-2x pathways that got downregulated thanks to this junk. the question is, did it happened to you?
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Edwin Tootville - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 19:24:47 EST ID:OTmDGC4U No.892958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh man I was on Lexapro (Escitalopram) for 5 years. For the latter half of that 5 years I was on the maximum dose a doctor will prescribe anybody of 40mg/day. Sometime during the last year of my time on that drug a friend convinced me to go to a transformational festival and I took LSD there for the first time. I did tons of internet research at the time and came to the conclusion that I might have reduced effects from the LSD and I should avoid DMT/Changa, MDMA, and MDA. During my first experience with LSD I was able to know what it was like to feel emotions on a personally intimate and deep level again. It was overwhelmingly beautiful and I knew I had to start weening off of lexapro as soon as possible. It took one year for me to successfully ween off of it. For about another year after that I felt as if my brain chemistry was gradually readjusting to functioning without a daily SSRI dose.

I used to smoke all day every day on the Lexapro but after coming off of it I began to experience severe anxiety and paranoia from weed so I quit smoking and am happier all together. Psychedelic experiences became more pronounced and intense after weening off. So whatever doses you knew you were capable of handling while on the SSRI might have changed.
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Samuel Barrymin - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 21:31:59 EST ID:XSbAI4Jn No.892963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>892958
wow, a whole year on coming back to normal? damn. thank godness you could overcome that shit tbh. have you taken MDMA? does it hit you as good as your peers? have you started smoking weed again?


>Psychedelic experiences became more pronounced and intense after weening off. So whatever doses you knew you were capable of handling while on the SSRI might have changed.


this would actually be a great thing, as I already had a psychedelic tolerance before taking the dive into SSRI's.


thanks for sharing your experience m8.
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Samuel Goddleville - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:38:18 EST ID:xHztJSPM No.892974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>892963
Thanks nobody in my family supported my decisions along the way and I had to lie to my doctor. I just stopped going once I knew I didn't need a script anymore. But I don't smoke weed these days because it returns me to a mindset I used to have all the time as a teenager of severe general anxiety with added paranoia. My faculties for vocalizing my thoughts shut down and I want to hide so people don't know I exist. So I don't mess with weed anymore except for a very specific purpose of keeping me asleep when I go through bouts of insomnia that tend to happen once in a blue moon.

My first experience with MDMA was roughly half a year after getting off of Lexapro. I was weary of it because I know how it works and I have dealt with major depression for a long time in the past. I never go heavy on it for this reason, only once a month at most and no more than 50-100mg. I've taken it a couple times by itself before but I didn't like it all that much so I tend to take it on top of psychedelics. I would assume it hits me as hard as everyone else especially since I feel a lot of things going on that psychedelics aren't doing when I take it. At the festivals I go to, a couple of times I have encountered somebody that says they are on anti-depressants and "one molly didn't do much so I took two more". I facepalm internally and have to explain to them the dangers of doing that.


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starting with an obscure but obvious one
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Reuben Hottingshaw - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 15:42:38 EST ID:x/aDJL0t No.892951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>892950
good one, benzydaminer :-) now try me
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Charles Faffingtork - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 10:07:17 EST ID:xJ9ExO51 No.892972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892951
3 ho pcpy?


AL-LAD by Nell Turveybanks - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 16:14:44 EST ID:BCqdO4RO No.892938 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I’ve made up my mind to trip again this Sunday. My question is, how much of a step up from 150 mics (which was pretty intense for me but left me wanting more, even after having an edible on the comedown) is about 375 mics of AL-LAD and is there any additional preparation needed for a large dose? I’ve done AL-LAD twice already and I feel as if I’m pretty sensitive to it as even 90mics was a LOT my first time.

I feel as if my mind is really badly craving a good trip. Last night I even had a brief experience of seeing low complexity geometric patterns in the blankets such as one sees on AL-LAD when I was getting excited about taking it all day.
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Doris Duckfield - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:49:07 EST ID:gKvH2xf9 No.892956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892945
If you want to trip alone on higher doses:

get a few etizolam blotters (2mg will make your trip chill out a bit)
write a few words on them so you know you can abort the bad
wrap them in saran wrap and tape on your arm
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Ebenezer Gonningville - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 18:49:32 EST ID:ZteKsYnw No.892957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892952
I encourage having a tripsitter, but he/she should ideally be at least somewhat experienced with psychedelics, at the very least in theory (reading Leary's "The Psychedelic Experience", for example, which gives a really good tutorial on how to tripsit people on high doses.). You're unlikely to physically hurt yourself even during a bad trip, the actual danger is ending up in deeply confusing, terrifying situations that you can not get out of. This is where having a tripsitter who has no idea what the fuck is going on might actually hurt you.

Going back to my first ~400ug experience, I was with 3 friends who all took lower doses than me (~200ug) and weren't very versed in the sort of experience a higher dose can bring. I basically lost all memory of any prior events and had no idea who I or my friends were. I couldn't understand them at the time either since the very concept of language was gone.

Since I was acting very weird, my friends got worried and tried to get me to snap out of it and this worry managed to get through to me without me actually understanding what they were worried about. Their facial expressions were reaching some deep part of my psyche that understood that the situation was bad, but I couldn't make any more sense of it. This triggered a cascade of increasingly hellish scenarios that are without a shadow of a doubt the worst experience I have ever had in my life.

Every minuscule thought I had about what could be the cause of their worry would evolve into an entire world of its own where that thought was the absolute reality. These worlds would exist for what seemed like years before collapsing and a new world starting up. When you're having a good trip, this is the most amazing thing you can ever experience, when you're having a bad trip, it's the worst thing you can possibly go through.

There's a page that goes a little bit int the sort of experience you can have here
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Unspeakable_horrors

It's this experience that always makes me urge caution when approaching such doses. If you properly prepare yourself and are in a very positive set/setting with friends who know how to tripsi…
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Rebecca Serrydod - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:08:50 EST ID:orOv8TrE No.892959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892957

Yeah, it's not very pleasant tripping hard around people that don't understand it well. I only have a couple of close friends, but they're very understanding, well versed people.

I actually really enjoy trip sitting people. I've trip sat for beginners more than a few times, and I've hosted several group trips at my place involving 5-7 people, which my friends always commented later that they had a blast.

It's great to have a house that can be wandered around, as well as a fairly secluded back yard or forested area that can be explored. A big tv that you can put music or a movie on, a clean open floor with pillows where you can stretch our and roll around, various fruits and light snacks just in case, and even a small light machine that projects different colored lights all over the room.

It's pretty obvious when a person starts having a rough time. Their face usually gets a blank expression while they stare off into nothing, they might start mumbling or talking to themselves, and they can become unresponsive. At the point where they stop responding to you it can be difficult to bring them back. I would suggest turning on some light, upbeat music or a very, very soft, happy video. This might get their attention and keep them going further down the hole. I highly suggest against constant attempts to get their attention by talking to or interacting with them. Usually you just want to do nothing at all if possible and just let them sit their and ride it out. Physically restraining a person is a really bad idea too unless they're trying to hurt themselves.
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Lydia Tootshit - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:32:38 EST ID:ONLKBWsH No.892961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892957
OP here. Wow, that sounds incredibly traumatizing. I’m sorry you had that experience. My boyfriend will be tripsitting me and he is very experienced with psychedelics. He even did 3 bottles of cough syrup once and had a similar experience you did with AL-LAD.
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Graham Clindlegold - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:52:50 EST ID:ZteKsYnw No.892962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892959
Couldn't agree with you more on how to deal with people whose trip is going south. During the experience I detailed earlier, my friends later finally gave up on trying to get me to snap out of it and very soon after that the very same trip turned incredibly blissful. I was still deluded but in the compete opposite way. What was hell before became heaven when I was just left alone to deal with it. Too bad that was near the end of the peak and I didn't get to enjoy it for too long before landing back into my body again.

>>892961
Sounds good OP, just make sure you're feeling positive if you're going through with the 375ug plan, and do it somewhere where you're sure you won't be disturbed for the entire duration of the trip. If your boyfriend hasn't dealt with people on high doses before (even though he's taken them himself), I'd still suggest he reads some good tripsitting material, it wouldn't hurt. Having a benzo handy wouldn't hurt either.

Just know that the experience will be very much on you. Your boyfriend could be great support but if you find yourself in weird/difficult situations you'll still have to deal with them on your own, he can only push you in the right direction. Good luck!


How do you climb out of the rabbit hole by Bugaladio - Sat, 20 Oct 2018 20:19:07 EST ID:SWJfluMo No.892960 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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do you just live life? or do you do dissos
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Lydia Bunwater - Sun, 21 Oct 2018 12:43:47 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.892975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you channel the Hegelian Weltgeist and consummate the dialectic nb


BWT by Hamilton Drusslechedging - Fri, 16 Mar 2018 15:47:06 EST ID:Yzf2kwQX No.886903 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old one hit bump limit so...

NEW BWT!!!!!! SLAYER LOVE PEACE AND ORBS YALL
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Angus Hemmerspear - Sun, 07 Oct 2018 07:58:04 EST ID:PDOOs83Y No.892671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>890499
I haven't experienced this "loss of magic" with MDMA as many people have. Many of my experiences after the first one were much more "magical" and powerful. Maybe it has to do with the fact that I always made at least month-long pauses between each dosing, right from the start. Taking a higher dose produces a proportionally more powerful experience to this day.

With psychedelics, I experience a loss of magic if I use them too often. Once a week would be way too frequent, at least for me, because I become too familiar with the effects and it becomes the norm instead of something special. And then it takes like 3-4 months of not taking them for the magic to come back. That's why I usually space my trips out too, but then when the time comes I take very high doses. Of course others will take psys every weekend and have a great time every single time, so you can only really be sure from your own personal experience.
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Fucking Pingernurk - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 03:39:17 EST ID:n20LfBCx No.892897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just did a good amount of dmt
WOW
Met the spirit of the chemical and presented me celestial objects. I was moaning and laughing the whole time.
Bout to do some more.
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William Fizzledale - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 20:00:46 EST ID:7ybtrJEe No.892904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892897
You've had DMT now it's time for BMT. N,N-bimethyltryptamine :^)
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Eugene Shakeway - Wed, 17 Oct 2018 21:43:43 EST ID:n0qFkueH No.892908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>892904

That stuff will make you question everything... libido dissolution
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