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DMT made easy? by Kaoru Starkid - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:10:40 EST ID:17Q0qzZ0 No.863717 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I might be a little outdated on this but hear me out.
It's more than obvious today anyone has access to the information they want to apply, I recall many "non-chemist folks" like myself trying and trying to figure out a way to make LSD-25 without the proper knowledge or equipment.

But now, even DMT (which was always the holy grail regarding psychs) is being made, extracted and applied easy mode! DMT Nexon for example was a bit out there, but yeah, it might seem counter-intuitive to worry about health at this point, but wasn't the original purposes of psychedelics to center a person or to advance in life, meanings etc?

I mean, I know where all gonna die, but making it a competition is a bit, i dunno, a bit too 2.0 for me. Leave your opinions anyway, it's what we're here for ;)

Re-using DMT bowl by Reuben Claggleford - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:20:15 EST ID:D7uG6K+r No.863707 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /psy/,
I recently loaded about 60 mg of freebase DMT into a weed bowl via the sandwich method for my first time (stupid, I know) and I took a few small tokes and got absolutely floored BUT I did not breakthrough. Can I reuse this bowl later to smoke and breakthrough later, or have I wasted it all? Thanks in advance
Fuck Mallyman - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:25:15 EST ID:nLrFqjGr No.863708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bumping for advice
William Wengerhot - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:10:55 EST ID:ojSPLb7I No.863710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thats like asking "hey I just ate this hamburger an hour ago and Im really feeling hungry again.. If I take my old plate and put it in the microwave will I be able to eat my hamburger again?"

The hamburger is gone. You ate it. Build a time machine Reuben.
Phyllis Macklechutch - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:14:18 EST ID:0UfjU1/p No.863716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There might be a good amount left, or not, impossible to tell.
But it cant hurt to just stack another sandwich on top of it.

When i sandwich freebase and DMT in my vape, theres always something left in the bowl after a good blastoff. The DMT melts and drops down to the sieve or whatever, where it solidifies again. Only a part of it is vaporized.

tabs by Hunter S. Nodson - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:18:18 EST ID:ojSPLb7I No.863711 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I recently acquired some apparently really good acid from a neighbor of mine. I trust him and his words as I've seen him drop a tab two times already. Being the hyperconscientious drug user I am, I've left the tab sitting for over 2 weeks contemplating if I should do it or not.

So far I asked him a few questions like "Did you just swallow it or did you have to hold it on your tongue?" To which he said hes swallowed it and felt the effects. Also about taste, he told me there was no taste but a slight taste of ink. He told me it was aiken to chewing on a pen and accidentally getting the tip in your mouth. Not bitter, but just an off inky taste (hes an artist so I think hed know the difference between bitter and ink).

Now, I just want to make sure if I take it Im not going to go into some psychotic break from an obscure nbome or whatever. Do you think itd be safe to do? The tabs are TINY, the size of ~4 grains of rice next to each other.

What are the odds of it being something that is not LSD or an lsd derivative like 1p-lsd or lsz? I dont care if its a derivative, I just want to make sure Im not consuming dox or nbomes.

Also I cannot use a test kit as its a tiny amount I got for free and itd be shitty to waste the whole dose just to see if it was real lsd.
Fuck Hirrysatch - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:26:33 EST ID:SwhTknjU No.863713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If it was DOx it would have tasted like shit. If it was an nBOME it would have tasted like shit and numbed his mouth up.
Nathaniel Worthingfuck - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:26:36 EST ID:I25QDP3v No.863714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You porbably have more of a chance of getting n-bombed, but even that isn't as likely since your mouth would go numb and he didn't report that. LSD is more common that I thought it was a year prior and before. You just have to find a solid connect and realize that there is nothing to worry about and research chemicals are probably more unlikely to come about unless you have a shitty dealer and bad luck. Regardless of all that, does it look like there is a water mark on the blotter? like something was dripped on it. Acid, whatever it is on, gel tabs excluded of course, will have a water mark. Ie. If your dealer puts it on a candy, there will be a liquid stain. Even when it dries. If your blotter does not have that, don't let it defer you, it could just mean the way it was prepared the paper will have the water stain, but it won't seem so because the entire paper is doused.

best of luck and have fun

growing mushrooms by David Gullychitch - Tue, 14 Jun 2016 17:00:43 EST ID:IrcbXy/t No.862984 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Fortunately I'm aware of the fact that I'm stupid so I can install double-checks to foolproof my plans
I'm planning to cultivate mushrooms and I'd like to make sure I'm not missing anything on my shopping list

>Glass jars
>Coffee filters (any better ideas than coffee filters? Not sure they're optimal)
>Spores, duh
>Some potting soil
>Don't forget to sterilize soil and jar
>A water sprayer

I'm not sure how delicate mushrooms are, do I need to boil the water before watering or is clean tap fine?
Any tips appreciated
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Matilda Hennertit - Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:43:43 EST ID:ExHYClRz No.863263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My order arrived today and I've done everything up to and including sterilizing the glass jars. I'll grab the syringe tomorrow morning and start the fun.

Although they forgot my grow boxes, but I won't need them for another at least a week and these guys ship fast, so that's that.
Might post some pics as the mycelium starts growing if anyone's interested.
Sidney Claddlekon - Mon, 20 Jun 2016 15:47:24 EST ID:2JSBYyAO No.863265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You'd be better of posting in the grow board, or like on shroomery or a similar website. You'll get much better opinions on whether you have mycelium or mold growing. If you even slightly contaminate the jars, it's very easy to grow a can of mold, so it's probably better to have more experienced grow operators look at that part of the project.

This board would love to see your yield, though, once it's all said and done.
Albert Goodham - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:03:34 EST ID:eCsjSb6N No.863686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stupid question, but what grow board are you talking about?
I've been on shroomery for a couple years but am new to here.
Fuck Hirrysatch - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:24:02 EST ID:SwhTknjU No.863712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/crops/, it's listed as Growing and Botany under the Academia menu
Matilda Drozzlewell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 15:30:17 EST ID:01wTkYwP No.863715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Testing >>>/crops/

/psy point of view by Carbonbased Lifeforms - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:12:42 EST ID:7ZpCQ+rl No.863697 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What does /Psy thinks of its contry ? I mean in terms of mentality,peoples ways of enjoying life,nature,culture,economics ect

How does it feel to live where you live ?
Eliza Worthingstone - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 08:36:48 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.863698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I live in the Netherlands, which is probably among the more psychoactively liberal countries in the world, with well-educated drugs-users and a relaxed nightlife culture that isn't afraid of a few drugs.

Of course, even in the Netherlands you hear about psychedelic horror stories, but they're rare. Very rare. And most of them involve tourists. Especially British tourists. Fook'n English scooom.
Hedda Lightstone - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:28:40 EST ID:pyQTSGIh No.863699 Ignore Report Quick Reply

This is a bad state of mind to get into. "countries" dont technically exist and generalising on the population of the "country" is just dumb too.
its like saying all americans are fat and lazy when there are quite a few that do nothing but think about the gym and being skinny and being a salad eating person.

What do i think of the people ive come across in south-west brisbane? all kind, loving people who would do anything to see you smile. genuine, honest and hard working, most of them seem to be operating on a level where their life revolves around a job and thats great too.
Eliza Worthingstone - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:44:01 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.863703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Clearly you've never discussed drugs with a Swede.

Fuck Sweden.
Phoebe Borringsane - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:26:37 EST ID:sXW4a+CO No.863706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I fink countries suck and that our species has ready fucked itself beyond reparation. All these fucking fools are running around prolonging our bullshit society pretending like the end isn't happening. It's too late for us. Too many toxic chemicals dumped into the ground, too many dumbo dumby dumbbbbbssiiiss
Eliza Worthingstone - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 14:42:20 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.863709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying the problem is chemicals in the ground

Wow, you're 40 years behind.

The problem is chemicals in the air.

Actually, it's not really a problem. Like George Carlin said, planet Earth is fine, planet Earth isn't going anywhere. It's us. Humans. We're going away. (At least, unless we clean up our act, and start using green energy and nuclear power.)

storage by Graham Buzzcocke - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:07:03 EST ID:sqmwhrC3 No.863704 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey. I picked up some acid and directly put it in the cellophane from a cigarette pack and now have it stored in cellophane and in a pill bottle in a dark, dry place. is this a okay way to preserve the lsd for a week? should I transfer it to tinfoil? i don't want to move it around too much.
Phoebe Borringsane - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:08:53 EST ID:sXW4a+CO No.863705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That should be perfectly fine for a week

BWT Thread by Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Sat, 09 Apr 2016 21:15:40 EST ID:Kr4b7eIH No.859014 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New bump thread time! Let's keep it past the 5th page this time.
Get your aminoethyl aromatic chemicals and let's discover why you're even on an imageboard!

Bump While Tripping on some 4-AcO-DMT and opiates. Very, very fun time with no edges. Just smooth
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Lillian Toothood - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:41:26 EST ID:q6w/iEAb No.863401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It means you dreamt that you got high. Taking more hallucinogens is NOT going to reverse the effects of taking hallucinogens, it doesn't work like that.

HPPD will only go away with time and with patience, and with not taking ANY drugs at all, not even weed.
Priscilla Fallyshaw - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:14:45 EST ID:7CyBAwIq No.863403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also note that deliriant abuse HPPD is the worst HPPD out there.

From what I've glanced off /del/, deliriant-caused HPPD makes psychedelic-caused HPPD look like a mild case of caffeine shits in terms of length and effect on daily life.
!GOACID/XyA - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:43:45 EST ID:F3yVGzWX No.863407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Will taking hallucinogenic drugs repair my HPPD
Jarvis Funderstone - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 17:44:10 EST ID:i2QgjRmJ No.863412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lemon tekked around .4g shrooms. Not looking to trip too hard but so far is nice and mellow with very very slight visual effects.

Still have some left and some mdma. Was thinking of hippy flipping but I am saving that for next month as I used some mdma a couple weeks ago.

Happy trippps everyone
Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:31:54 EST ID:APH5MG8o No.863702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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77mg of 420-AcO-DMT it

Preparing for ego death by Wesley Huppertare - Mon, 27 Jun 2016 19:31:39 EST ID:rYQLc9At No.863619 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Advice? What do?
Am going to use 90mg of 4-AcO-DMT. Will have trip sitter
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Isabella Giffingnidge - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:00:33 EST ID:5MZJzGD8 No.863630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you can experience ego death on a much less heroic dose

do what you want anon i'm just warning you

Priscilla Mullertore - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 01:53:18 EST ID:fN8wRo40 No.863685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Matilda Drozzlewell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:03:48 EST ID:01wTkYwP No.863687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's quite the dose op.
What made you decide you want to feel absolutely insane for 8 hours?
If 5g of mushrooms can throw curve balls like crazy what makes you think you want to do 1.8x the dose of psilocin? I bet you won't even remember most of it.
Lydia Blatherwell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 05:02:05 EST ID:8eQqt0RK No.863694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
EGO death, = denationalization?
Bombastus !RZEwn1AX62!!xXxJO70U - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:54:56 EST ID:s8g3LytO No.863701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've taken up to 125mg of 4-AcO-DMT 3 days after taking 50mg. To me, half that dose (45mg) will not be nearly enough to ego death. Perhaps it'll just feel like a 7g mushroom trip with extra colours. Much like an intense 2-CE trip (still the strongest psychedelic I've done). Maybe I should try 75mg again. I'll probably do that today.

My 125mg trip (albeit with tolerance) I can still remember as clear as day along with my mindset while I was thinking what I was doing.

I wonder what kind of health effects there are in ego death.

Salvia / DMT by David Bemmerlun - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 09:40:49 EST ID:R+e/Hbzt No.863064 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I've never tripped before, I've only ever smoked weed / K2 and taken Xanax on occasion. Salvia peaked my interest because of the potential spiritual aspect of it. Everyone around here knows little about it, but says it's the worst trip you'll ever have. The person I'll buy off of tried getting me to do DMT instead. What are your experiences with Salvia? Is it as bad as everyone says, is it worth it? Any potential negatives to either drugs?
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John Smallridge - Fri, 24 Jun 2016 13:13:17 EST ID:lriNg9Lv No.863448 Ignore Report Quick Reply

People react in different ways. Naturally you hear less about people who are experienced with the effects and dosage, don't use trip sitters, and are fine. You also hear the most about those who have horrible reaction, sitting around with a bunch of friends who think it's amusing and makes a great story.

Does anyone occasionally get intense deja vu for hours after salvia use (smoked)?
TokesMahGoats - Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:12:01 EST ID:6brPqhLb No.863587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I did 60x extract of salvia and it was too much for me to handle.
I mean I tripped so fucking hard.
I remember little dump trucks taking away pieces of my vision leaving only black, and I was freaking out that the dump trucks would leave me in the dark lol
Oliver Sanningshaw - Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:50:30 EST ID:pyQTSGIh No.863588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I remember little dump trucks taking away pieces of my vision leaving only black

i think ill need t get me some 60x
Isabella Giffingnidge - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 00:04:58 EST ID:5MZJzGD8 No.863631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've always heard salvia has a reverse tolerance? how true is this statement?
Jarvis Bundlesare - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 10:00:35 EST ID:R0ssOGuL No.863700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haven't laughed that hard on a chan in ages. Good stuff.

We think we got ripped off. How should we make the best of a bad situation? by Wesley Grandfoot - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:28:10 EST ID:FbryFO7C No.863682 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So my friend and I have a problem.

We scored what is supposed to be acid.
We bought it from a friend of a friend, and he seemed nice so I kinda just went along with it. He charged me 40 dollars for two tabs, and said they were each 500 micrograms. It seemed like a lot, but I didn't really know better, and just kinda went with it. After reading up on it, these seem to be the possibilities, from most to least likely.
  1. It's LSD, but he was lying about how much.
  2. It's 25i.
  3. He was telling the truth, and there's no way we'll be able to handle it.

What should we do at this point? We're traveling and cant get more, and we really want to trip. We're fine with doing 25i, but we want to know. We also don't want to just take the whole tabs in case he was somehow telling the truth. We have distilled water and everclear in case we want to split up the dose at all.
Martin Pimmerman - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 00:41:17 EST ID:U47XPnrV No.863683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guarantee they aren't 500ug. Even in the 1960s the strongest tabs you could find were 300ug, and that was when you could buy the shit off literally any street corner in San Francisco.

If it's 25i you'll know right off the bat - it'll numb your mouth and have a very strong taste.

If it has a taste but doesn't numb your mouth then it's most likely some kind of DOx chem - not nearly as dangerous as nBOME, but at the same time not nearly as fun as LSD.

I'd take a tab each, you'll most likely get some 2d visuals and euphoria if it's a typical tab. Even if they're REALLY GOOD tabs you'll still be able to handle 1 hit, you'll just have 3d visuals instead of 2d as well as some really deep thinking. You'll still be able to move around and form coherent sentences fine either way.

Can't speak for nBOME though, but I doubt he'd be selling it at that high of a price. NBOMEs are ludicrously cheap, even if he sold it at $10 a hit he'd still be making like a 1000% profit
Ian Blackwill - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 02:22:29 EST ID:poJfZ1Xa No.863688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty much everything the post above says.

If it's 25i it will taste awfully bitter and will numb your mouth like Sucrets - if you are willing to take the tab, this is how you know it's 25i.

A 500ug street tab (i.e. you or your best friend didn't cook it up and measure it yourself) is nonexistent. For most people, this is an incredibly high dose; as a seller, it just wouldn't make sense to A) waste this much on one tab, B) potentially deter regulars by selling a heroic dose in one tab

My biggest concern is that he advertised the tabs as 500ug but put an "equivalent" NBOME dose on the tab. To get a trip similar to 500ug of LSD with NBOME, you'd be crossing into potential seizure or death dose (yes, it's that dangerous). There are rumors that 25i is orally inactive, so your safest bet is to swallow the tab (put in a pill capsule if possible). If nothing happens then you lost some money but dodged a bullet. Have fun and stay safe
ChodeMastaFlex - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 03:31:16 EST ID:2g0yp5+w No.863690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I honestly question your friends character if he let a "friend" sell you 2 tabs for $40. Especially based on an outright lie of them being 500 ug.

The whole situation stinks.
Lydia Blatherwell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 04:58:31 EST ID:8eQqt0RK No.863693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whatever it is, in whatever form, you will screw it up if you try to everclear and water to divide it up. That simple.

500 mics is strong for LSd. But, not unheard of. He he.
That much is strong but tolerable.

This is some analogue no doubt. Otherwise if would
fairly understood, that it is real LSD.

That simple. Look at the factors. Price, dose, nobody but few would put out a strong dose of LSD unless they or you are in the know.
!GOACID/XyA - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 06:32:39 EST ID:F3yVGzWX No.863695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> He charged me 40 dollars for two tabs, and said they were each 500 micrograms

Hah, oh man. Sounds like my first time. I got sold 2 bunk tabs for 40 bucks. You definitely got ripped off, but at least there are probably drugs on yours.

They are also definitely not 500ug. Even 200ug is extremely rare, with 120-150ug being considered quite strong tabs. Average tab potency is 70-110mics.

Yours are probably closer to 70ug, lol.

Anyways, nbome are not orally active, so if you swallow the tabs and they have an effect it's either LSD or DOx. DOx are fine, and quite safe in most dosages, so don't worry about that.

The nbome's kill people left and right and should be avoided.

Alcohol + LSD by Rebecca Ceshmirk - Mon, 27 Jun 2016 22:02:49 EST ID:/4vDc4rJ No.863623 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone have any experience drinking alcohol while tripping, I was considering it and was wondering if it's good or bad? I've heard that it can make you go to sleep during a trip if you need to, but I don't know if that's true, any advice would help, thanks!
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Hugh Chiblingfen - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:17:09 EST ID:+/sheMqF No.863678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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interesting all the comments are saying not to drink and do acid. I always sip about a 6 pack on beer during the trip. I'll try no alcohol next time to see if there's a difference.
Ian Blackwill - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 20:38:20 EST ID:poJfZ1Xa No.863679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interesting. I always thought the lower plats weren't worth it because the effects are so similar to alcohol, but instead of sipping on a nice ale you swallow nasty pills. Then again I've only had two (awesome) 3rd plat trips.
Martin Pimmerman - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 21:47:40 EST ID:U47XPnrV No.863681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well shit. I didn't know that. You learn something every day I guess.
Clara Blimblenotch - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 03:32:17 EST ID:FoKuoa/I No.863691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've only drunk on shrooms and acid, and I wouldn't advise drinking on the former.

Had a few beers with shrooms, and I spewed. Didn't feel well to mix the two.
Drinking while on acid on the other hand, I can't even feel the effects of alcohol. Kind of pointless to drink as you'll just waste money on booze. Even on a microdose I found it hard to get tipsy.
Lydia Blatherwell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 04:18:45 EST ID:8eQqt0RK No.863692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If casual drinking with friends, sure, why not. If you are looking to trip on it's own merits, ditch alcohol, and cigs.

New to Psy by Shit Fellernatch - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:14:38 EST ID:tDcC3BSK No.863096 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A friend of mine is securing some shrooms for a trip this weekend, but neither of us have ever done any kind of psychedelics. We planned on tripping in his living room, probably with 2g for each of us, while a third friend smoked some weed and watched over us. Anything we should know before going into this? What should we expect? And what would you recommend we do for a good time?
Cedric Clayhall - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:23:27 EST ID:01wTkYwP No.863097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cut out the sober guy hes just going to make it weird. At the same time though trips with just two people are really mind bending at times.
John Bivingtore - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 22:24:03 EST ID:poJfZ1Xa No.863098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eating the mushrooms on their own will reduce the time of onset. Expect nausea for the first thirty minutes, but it ends quickly. Get outside if you can, you're going to want to. If for any reason you start to feel uncomfortable, try to identify what in the environment is causing the feeling, and fix it. For a good time just enjoy the sunshine, walk around, look at things with lots of texture and color. Do whatever you find entertaining, and don't plan anything in particular beforehand. Just let it show you what it wants.

Your friend who smokes may feel uncomfortable (and you may think he's retarded). I'd advise A) You smoke too B) He stays sober. Just my opinion. gl hf
Charlotte Drellerfag - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 23:48:29 EST ID:Th7fqDgy No.863100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dont think it'll be weird.
Sometimes when we're all tripping, it becomes very very weird.
Henry Devinghut - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 12:31:09 EST ID:U47XPnrV No.863127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
IMO the sober guy might prevent it from getting weird, which is exactly what you don't want
The weirder the better
Albert Goodham - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 01:30:25 EST ID:eCsjSb6N No.863684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In my experience if you are comfortable around the dude smoking then go for it, people smoking are fun to "vibe" with.
My first trip was me, a friend, and like 8 other people who came over dickishly after we took them, 2 I didn't know.
I mostly hung out with a couple sober ones, I'm close to them so they weren't annoyed and just enjoyed watching me be entertained.
I vibed really well with the people smoking too.
You should be fine, I honestly think having two people not do shrooms is best so they can bounce off each other when you and your buddy are hit with big waves.

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