LSD is indeed my favorite drug I have ever taken, however I would say you have overlooked the sheer intensity of it. I for one find it difficult to lead a stable life if I am tripping balls on a regular basis. It isn't a drug I can take as a hobby, or when I want to chill and have a nice evening. Each drug has its time and its place. Maybe in a certain context, LSD is perfect, and in another context, weed or some other drug would be perfect. I don't think there is a one-drug-fits-all.

>>880621
yes

>>880680
its a well documented side effect, drugs effect people differently. and a molecule cant be good or bad, 2cb is 2cb.

>>880682

>you have overlooked the sheer intensity of it. I for one find it difficult to lead a stable life if I am tripping balls on a regular basis

That's another reason why it's so great. It does not leave you wanting more. One nice trip and you feel like you've had enough for another two months.

>>880680
>>880688
just to clarify this, ive never had bodyload with 2cb either
NB

>>880577

> it's not about having a big psychedelic dick; if anything, it sucks I have to take such a high dose to get the kind of effects that other people are claiming to get from significantly lower doses.

This; and honestly I'm jel of those people spending less money on each acid trip.
nb

Do people even account for tolerance when talking about these doses? I'll take 200ug every couple of months and completely melt into the universe.

>>880572

>It depends on person

This mainly. I can take 100ug and be tripping balls for 12h but I have a mate who has to take 500ug to get a similar effect and he's completely sober in 6-8h.

Is this the psychedelic epeen thead? Oh good.

I took 2.8mg of LSD and a couple hits of DMT a while back and I was still able to type, but it just took a long ass time because the keyboard was melting and reassembling itself at the same time and sometimes keys would just randomly fold over each other. I was like "dammit keyboard I need to get to my beats" and it chilled out and all was good.

>>880598
There's such a thing as natural tolerance. It's not really the most accurate way to describe it, but some people really just have to take that much more to get the desired effects. 200ug would barely do anything to me other than maybe make objects breathe and get some tracers and whatnot. need at least 400ug for there to be any kind of appreciable mental tripping to occur. light mood effects occur at 200ug and if i really try hard to trip sometimes it kind of works (have no idea how to simply describe it beyond "willing" myself to trip harder, but this explanation falls pathetically short of actually explaining any of what I'm doing or what's going on). It's gay mang, consider yourself fortunate.

>>880463
too long lasting at the present moment. dont have the time i can dedicate to it not to mention i dont feel..muddy the next day after dmt

>>880463
DMT is actually not an exceptionally *potent* substance, as potency is a matter of minimum dosage by weight required for threshold effects. While DMT does produce very intense effects at its relative moderate to high doses, the intensity is dose dependent just like any other drug. Low to moderate doses of DMT can be highly satisfying and fun (especially if you have a fair amount to fuck around with), and you can trip several times in a single day. It's not as if there are no good reasons to do as OP plans to do, the way he plans to do it.

>>880529
Holy fuck I haven't seen you post in forever mang. Yeah, I'm aware potency in a pharmacological sense means something different than the way I used it. I guess I could've been more careful with my choice of words, but I felt like my point would be understood anyway.

I agree about lower doses being enjoyable, but I feel like if you're going to do that, it makes more sense to combine it with an MAOI and go with an oral ROA. If you're going to vaporize it, why not just trip nuts?

I've got .7 grams of some creamy dmt from a trusted sour e and which I had a similar experience to OP. Not like OP, though, I want to break threw completely. I've heard reports of people living out years of existence in other world's. I desire to do that.

To;Dr How do I find the wardrobe and step through?

>>880509
i suppose that makes enough sense. if it's possible for you to get it, try snorting DPT in cases like that. hits you within ~5-10 min and has a 2-3 hour trip with another 2 or 3 hours of residual increase in vibrancy of colors and what not, and I don't really notice anything the next day. It's a perfect midway between DMT and shrooms in that regard. easily my favorite psychedelic honestly.

That's normal, LSD doesn't make you automatically enjoy music. About half of the time it works, half of the time it does nothing and sometimes you just feel like you want to be left just with your thoughts and music (and any other source of noise) just feels like a distraction.

That being said, when it does work, it's magic. I like listening to accoustic pieces by singers-songwriters in particular and when the lyrics are touching some personal topic it feels like you're replaying a crystal clear holographic capture of the artist's state of mind at the instant of the song's inception. Complete with synaesthesia and everything.

Different genres give you different kinds of experience too. For example ambient psy pieces like Carbon Based Lifeforms give me this feeling of the song kind of infinitely unfolding and being "symmetric," for lack of a better word. Accoustic pieces with compex lyrics on the other hand feel much more emotional and "dirty."

You may have been just frightened by the new experience to enjoy the trip. And five people might have been too much. I generally feel inappropriate among too many people.

>>880636
I definitely was not frightened, I was almost euphorically happy throughout the entire experience and I felt connected to my friends on a level deeper than I ever have before.

IME music on psychedelics can be pretty hit or miss. The only drugs I've taken that result in more or less guaranteed music euphoria are dissociatives, stimulants, entactogens (like MDMA) and cannabis.

Dude, Awesome! I would of loved to have been to that show! I just bought my son a Rancid onesie.

>>880600
Man they fucking killed it. It was my first rancid show and I was worried they were going to play a bunch of their new shit but nope it rocked
This concert was also on my birthday so there's an extra coicidink

>Take it anyway
>Start tripping before the paper dissolves
>Tripping my balls off before I even swallow so I spit it out

i think you might be retarded

>>880625
sounds like it to me

>>880588
Idioteque is one of the best songs to trip to, just sayin

>>880591
lol trust i dont intend on isolating myself, for the first few hours we gonna listen to shit everybody likes (we made a collab playlist) so shit like travis scott, young thug, pressa, tame impala, some animal collective.
but when im at my peak and i see theyre occupied with their minds and stuff, ima put on my headphones and listen to the big three In Rainbows, Kid A and OK Computer

>>880582
My first real experience was 4 tabs and crystal DMT bongs with changa base.
Traveled in and out of time. shit was lit.

>>880604
My bad, only read the headline.
I agree with >>880589
Take at least 2, even 3.
Just dont only do 1, you wont get the experience.

>>880595
nigga dont plan shit cuz ure not gonna be in control. the music you know and like will not sound the same, so you might want to find a playlist that's all psychedelic.

>>880156
Psychedelics do well to show you what you need to work on about yourself, but they won't heal it for you, you need to dive in and heal it by yourself. Make sure that when you dive in, do so in a safe setting that is conductive to healing with minimal external influences. Much love, and I hope your problems are resolved soon!

When tripping I sometimes end up in feelings of low self esteem too, and I go away somewhere quietly, like covering in a forest or hiding behind curtains in a bed at home. I then begin to remember all the things that are good about me, what people have liked, what I have liked, that a life could be much worse and so on. One trip it literally felt like looking my own fears in the eye and becoming victorious over it, because it's the only way to stay in right mind. All trips were great overall though and ended up well, because I always sort of found what's good and then was able to enjoy rest of the trip greatly.

I think as much as you should strive in life and make it good, you should also not go too hard about working on it, burning out and having many setbacks that could be avoided by going slower. Just as much as striving you should also be glad of what already is and find the good in that to be happy in the present as well. It's just as important. Even any little things that are better than nothing. Then make more as you can.

I know how you feel OP. You can fix surface problems to try and fix your self esteem; such as work out, educate yourself, get better job, etc. That really isn't the problem though, at least for me. I've made it to the point where I am fit and good looking, competent, and somewhat smoother. but there always will be that doubt and its a lot of work to realize it and validate myself, externally or internally. I have plenty of ugly friends who aren't very accomplished and have egos and confidence like you wouldn't believe.

My advice would be to create a plan to fix these things in your life. But then you might get caught in a nasty cycle of self improvement like I did, and it burns you out.

>>880597
Yeah but big ego's aren't really what OP needs, or any of us for that matter. Confidence on the other hand is crucial and awesome, it's basically faith. But once you know the self doesn't exist, you can't really have faith in any sense of self, you kind of have to literally go with the flow/God given Grace to continue working, but that confidence that the universe/nature/god/the earth has you and loves you and will keep you safe, that allows you to keep going, even able to make mistakes but still keep going strong.

But I agree, you should make time for self improvement, though I recently burnt out on my own "self improvement regiment" because I was spreading myself too thin between activities/disciplines to study/work on. So, take it slow, realize that you DO have your entire life to work on yourself, which you should try and do continuously, but realize that making mistakes isn't bad either, it;s part of the learning process. In short OP, we are all imperfect, while still all living perfectly under God THE ALL.

>>880602

>but that confidence that the universe/nature/god/the earth has you and loves you and will keep you safe, that allows you to keep going, even able to make mistakes but still keep going strong

what are you even saying here? this sounds like a good way for someone to just let their lives just go to shit because they somehow magically some force out there is going to look out for them. either the self doesn't exist and you don't need looking out for, or the self does exist and it does need looking out for, even just if it's looking out for itself.

I mean, I get where you're coming from with this whole "self doesn't exist" thing, but there's shit you've gotta keep in mind when you come to conclusions like that. Even though when you think things through really hard and that's the conclusion you come to, you can't deny your own capacity to suffer. No matter what else appears not to matter or actually exist, something that will always remain real and concrete is one's own suffering. Even if, on some real shit level you realize there isn't a self, you logically cannot deny that the real impact your suffering has on you and the fact that you have the capacity to suffer or experience anything at all necessitates that a "self" of some kind indeed must exist, and that it is worth taking care of (or in other words, reducing the overall suffering you feel and can potentially feel is a worthwhile venture).

Also,

>while still all living perfectly under God THE ALL

I'm assuming this is a reference to the Kybalion, but I'm left wondering based on your statement, have you even actually read it? THE ALL isn't something we live under or are subject to, THE ALL simply happens to be THE ALL. THE ALL is more like a gestalt concept, the whole that is greater than the mere sum of its parts. It's more or less the Kabbalistic concept of Ein Sof, and thus isn't something you are "under" so much a part of and made up of.

>>880531
Symptoms that match those of HPPD can be experienced without using hallucinogens, it just requires previous hallucinogen use to diagnose it specifically as HPPD. While referring to the symptoms of HPPD the way he did might've been inaccurate, it made plenty of practical sense to use it colloquially that way. Your pedantry here is just a misguided attempt to sound more intelligent; no need to be a dick, nigga.

>>880533

They weren't being a dick. They're right. Hppd, whether the symptoms can be similar to other visual distortions or not, is specifically related to hallucinogen use.

>>880545
Did you miss the part where I said that the way that anon used HPPD was inaccurate/wrong? That's a tacit admission that he (the guy I quoted) was right. My point was really that even though an HPPD diagnosis requires the previous use of hallucinogens, the changes that the hallucinogens make in the functional operation of the structures most affected are actually what's causing the perceptual aberrations, the drugs used were merely the impetus for the resulting loss in temporal signal cohesion and disrupting the sensory gating process.

It's entirely possible that genetics, environmental influences, and physical injury can cause this same sort sensory signal "leaking" that causes the perceptual noise to arise. While not caused by using hallucinogens, what's actually going on at a physical neurobiological level is pretty much exactly the same. Given that, what that anon was describing, despite not actually being HPPD, still causes the exact same symptoms.

>>880556

No, I just read the part about something something don't care and then spewed shit at you. It's okay, I still love you. Maybe. I'm sinister and I want to eat your goobers.

>>880581
Maybe I was just waiting for you to strut right up and eat those fucking goobers right off me.You're a disappointment, don't try calling me back.

>>880567
Sure - because its completely unheard of for drug-users to seek drugs.
Sure - because nobody ever tried to get prescribed something they didn't need to get high.
Sure - because, given the opportunity, you wouldn't try to score some drugs that ultimately are free to you because the taxes you pay fund this shit.
Sure- because it's a stupid idea to seize an opportunity that could bring you benefit.
Sure - because you're the ambassador of all things right and wrong, making everyone's calls so they don't have to.

But most importantly:

Your comment bears no weight on my plan to score drugs from my doctor.

>>880564
I'm amazed you got from single psychedelic to a state where you were able seek a doctor's appointment in real world and go through it BUT at the same time be so out of this world you don't even remember eating a drug. Such out of control situations are not a good sign so I'd stay out of NBOME and if that happens with other psychedelics too, maybe stay out of all of 'em.

If you describe psychedelic states as a naturally occurring disorder you probably get described anti-psychotics, which have no recreational use potential (except maybe in stopping bad trips forcefully if someone wants to end a trip.) Anything else, I guess, fake whatever people fake to get whatever they generally want to get.

>>880568

>hehe, other people also do scummy things so im also allowed to be a scumfuck piece of shit!

and yea, I know. You rationalized it to yourself a long time ago i assume, i wasnt expecting to change your opinion.

>has terrible trip on nBOME
>so fucked up has to see psychiatrist
>ooh lemme exploit this for drugs

never change /psy/

benzos are about the only thing you can get with any abuse potential, like some other anon said. but, chances are you're gonna get loaded with SSRIs or antipsychotics, both of which have zero abuse potential

MXE or ketamine would be preferable as they have the shortest duration and are generally more gentle/forgiving. 2fdck should be good too in that regard. Though nothing was as monstrous as DXM, always liked that one best until years of regular dosing caught up and the side effects made the experience less enjoyable.

Dunno what that one guys talking about, 3-meo-pcp and 4-meo-pcp are the best to combo with ime. Those plus massive doses of DPT are easily my favorite combos

If you aren't opposed to dxm I would definitely recommend a strong 2nd plateau dose, some of the best trips of my life were on lsd and dxm.
Perfect for just hanging with the dudes and bullshitting.
Unfortunately I can't give you any recommendations for rc combos but nitrous always goes good with pretty much anything.

dck works well. its what ive been using with psys since mxe got banned.

>>880327
id say mxe isnt stimulating enough for this to be an issue. id say opce, 3meopcp, 3meopce, 3hopce, all too stimulating.


>>880520
different type of experience, not that one is better but someone wanting something as close to ket and psys as possible would probably be disappointed.

>>880555
Oh my bad, i didnt say MXE bc its stimulating, more bc it lasts a long time so theres a bigger window to lose your shit

I smoked changa, the weaker herb version of DMT (idk if called different names in other countries), on the tail end of a 4 tab trip and it was pretty brain-breaking shit.
My friend looked like an argonian from the elder scrolls and the grass turned red and blue checkered.
Otherwise I found huffing NO2 canisters is pretty good.

I was on 200mics and me and muh bro smoked a bowl of weedhashwaxkiefmorehashandwaxandcoveredwithweedandwax
Visuals were top notch

I was on 200mics and me and muh bro smoked a bowl of weedhashwaxkiefmorehashandwaxandcoveredwithweedandwax
Visuals were top notch

ketamine squeezes the fuck out of psychedelics visuals. your vision just becomes one spinning hell of colors and aztec visuals. I don't think you can get more visuals without getting more fucked up, even 2cb gets psychedelic after a certain point.

how old were you when these thoughts stopped? The front of your brain could have still been in development

>>880184
27 and all my lsd and mushroom doses have only really been the last couple of years.

aso still dont know what these pills are

Around the age of 25 (with some margin of error) is when the brain finishes fully developing, specifically the frontal lobe. The frontal lobe and prefrontal cortex are responsible for higher brain functions (like executive functioning), so it's highly implicated in conscious self-awareness and forming thoughts/your thought process.

Simply put, your brain biologically matured and you got older, mang. Executive functioning is critical in goal-oriented behaviors and the emotional responses to them. Your interests and concerns (and so your conscious outlook and normal thought process) changed, likely being more oriented toward the goal of conforming to social expectations of success, etc.

I guess it's just time to get real and focus on what matters in your life. Time to stop fucking with your senses and get serious - whatever is real and serious to you.

>>880024

im pretty sure what you have in that bag are just sequins.