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Best drugs for closed-eye visuals (CEVS)? by Nathaniel Blollerpudge - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 17:05:25 EST ID:qdlfek+I No.875333 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /psy/ I've been experimenting with LSD a lot over the past year but I've since taken a half year break.

My question is simple, what drugs stimulate you the most visually? I usually tripped alone in my room, 200ug, lights off and with headphones on.

Ketamine (I know it's /dis/ but still)
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Oliver Nannerfield - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 16:53:19 EST ID:LVt9015F No.875461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DMT has the shortest duration of these (smoked). Due to the short duration of DMT it's possible to go very deep with DMT without having to worry about "being stuck like this for hours." It can be very visual.

Ketamine lasts longer than DMT but is still pretty short. Some people don't like the way ketamine feels. I love it. It's not very visual at lower doses. At higher doses it can sedate you into a kind of lucid dream which can be really bizzare. People call this the k-hole.

2cb lasts longer than ketamine. Everybody seems to react differently to it but I find it has an AMAZING body high. Far less stimulating than drugs like LSD, you can really just lie back and enjoy the visuals. It's also less mindfuck too. Very recreational drug. I suggest you start low though and work you way up, the body high can become uncomfortable at higher doses so you want to find your sweet-spot, not overshoot it.

Shrooms are amazing. Their duration is approximately half that of an LSD trip. I find shrooms to be very, very euphoric at lower doses. It's more a mental euphoria though, not a physical one like you get from weed or 2cb. At higher doses shrooms can become very mindfucky.

In my experience shrooms have a high mindfuck to visual ratio. In other words you might have as much mindfuck on shrooms as you do on LSD but while LSD would have a lot of visuals at the level of mindfuck, shrooms still haven't gotten visual yet. That said shrooms become very visual at higher doses but prepare yourself for some mindfuck.

Despite being more mindfucky, I find shrooms easier to handle than LSD. Shrooms don't have the frantic, hard edge that LSD does.

As for ketamine - ketamine mixes great with all psychedelics so consider exploring this combination as well. No need to go straight into a hole either.
CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:05:17 EST ID:Tzksr3dc No.875475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably 1P-LSD. The first few times I used 4-AcO-DMT, I saw spirals, warping, and sparkly textures, but after the first few times it was just sparkle and slight color enhancement regardless of the dose. The visuals from shrooms were very intricate and smooth, but not that noticeable unless I stared blankly and let my imagination take over.

If I include non-psychedelics, the best are:
  1. Starting fluid / diethyl ether
  2. Salvia (although it's different because it overwhelms all of my senses until I can't detect any of the real world)
  3. DPH and DXM combos
  4. DPH
  5. Medium-high doses of DXM
Simon Clammleduck - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 10:12:10 EST ID:XRzola0E No.875566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive done over 50 drugs dozens of times each and by far the most visual anything open or closed came from 15 mg 5 meo mipt 400mg dxm hbr, and 15mg 3 meo pcp and some weed. Never have i had traces last so long. I remember looking at a carpet corner and moving my head amd the corner of the carpet would fan out and follow my eyes path, and in each corner tracer was a unique type of fractal or visual, it was like looking at a deck of cards fanned out with each card having its all own visual geometry all in a split second i looked at the carpet. I actually remember very little from this trip besides that and one moment where i just knelt hunched over a chair in the dark tripping so hard that i just sat like that for what must have been 2 hours just enjoying the visuals and even auditory music i was hearing.

5 meo mipt is extinct now but i looved it. I following that i think 2ci, then lsd, then dxm, then shrooms and so forth in rank of most visual
Dr. Katz - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 04:03:19 EST ID:YtJghZ6V No.875588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My personal favorites for CEVs: LSD, Ketamine, MXE, DXM, Nitrous, and DMT

General CEVs that are great without much bias: 2C-E, Mushrooms, DMT, Salvia, LSD, Ketamine, hell... even nitrous in high doses!, etc.
/dis/ isn't for everyone, but if you get it you get it.
DMT and Salvia are more along the lines of /psy/ + /dis/ than classical psychedelics.

/psy/ + /dis/ is ideal for CEVs and OEVs
Martin Wenderville - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 04:15:07 EST ID:RCvYldYm No.875691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lysergamides are my absolute favorite, notably LSD, ETH-LAD, and ALD-52.

An LSA trip from some HBWR seeds surprisingly gave me the most memorable CEV's I think I've ever had. Very vivid and vision-like, which is surprising considering the OEV's aren't the most interesting on the spectrum. It's too bad the side effects made me never want to do it again.

8 tabs of lsd by Walter Humblebury - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 22:50:31 EST ID:5VW6umqg No.875618 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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me and my friend took 2 tabs each, i wasnt really feeling anything so we both took 2 more, by this point hes high as fuck. i waited 30 minutes, still wasnt feeling anything then took 4 more. i was coming up for a solid 2 hours, and peaked for about 4 fucking hours. i felt drunk, i have never been so intoxicated off of a substance in my life. my friend on 4 tabs and another friend of mine were fucking with me during the second half of my trip, and eventually i just kept looking at my friends knife and getting paranoid as fuck, to the point where i wouldnt turn my back to him. the visuals were so fucked, me and my other tripping friend spent my comeup in the garage, and when we went into the living room pretty much every part of his body was a different geometric pattern. i initially dropped at 8pm, and we went on a fucking crazy ass motorcycle ride at 6am, he said every time he looked over at me he would just see my dilated ass eyes. 800ug, its the most acid ive ever taken. i wanted to take a 10strip that night but 8tabs was more than enough.
you guys have any similar experiences with that many tabs?
Fanny Fullerstock - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 05:02:03 EST ID:BBZsYXAY No.875627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I took 10 tabs back in the day. Saw rainbow barfing pandas, at-at walkers from start wars outside, spiders falling from the blinds, it was summer time like 80 degrees but snowing. Also remember looking in a mirror and watching myself grow from a fetus face all the way to old geezer me. There was a point where I tried to go to my friends. But when I called it sounded like he was across a lake talking. I describe it like that because I remember telling him that. Crazy day do it
John Crirrywater - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 05:45:40 EST ID:nqgtGYy1 No.875628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck yeah that sounds sick, gunna take 10 tabs once my brain cools down from this last trip
Clara Nizzlelone - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 10:52:55 EST ID:TbqzDM8/ No.875635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Decided to drop 10 tabs one night and as I was out grabbing water and other things I felt I would need.. I impulsively bought the whole blu ray set of Harry Potter.. thinking, this ought to be fun. Aaaaaand holy fuck. Put the strip on around 9am, effects rolled in 5mins later and Like you described, drunk feeling, I was trying to trim too so I got something accomplished before my roommates got back from their trip,

around the 13hr mark I get a call from them, "we're an hour away, call Buffalo Wild Wings and order 3 rodeo burgers" (the messiest / greasiest thing they have)
After I got off the phone I started thinking.. I'm able to call them. That's no problem.. I'm not that hungry, BUT how is this gunna go when I walk in to pay and my eyes the size of Jupiter.. so I call them back and explain I took 10 hits this morning and still not feeling quite 'normal' and would rather not drive, but I'll place the order!

Once they got back they just wanted to ask how much different 5-10 was, (we always do 5) but yeah that was a fun day..
Eugene Worthingwater - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 20:11:53 EST ID:toJl83SI No.875679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
sounds scary as fuck

4 sco dmt and DXM by Frederick Worthingbanks - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 00:18:26 EST ID:AejVmPo+ No.875660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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anyone have any first hand experience with with this combo they can share?
ive used very lo doses of mushrooms and DXM, should the effects be somewhat similar? i plan on using 660-700 DXM as I have a large tolerance so i may up the dose. Im planning on using maybe 20mg 4 aco but i dont know fore sure, any suggestions are greatly appreciated
Nathaniel Snodridge - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 03:40:31 EST ID:LVt9015F No.875661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No experience with this combo personally but disso's and psy's generally combine quite well together.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 15:51:29 EST ID:dmJhKjxx No.875676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Great combo. One of the best DXM combos.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 16:09:22 EST ID:qPcf+8st No.875677 Ignore Report Quick Reply

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WGXHT7n5Pk by Phyllis Cliddleridge - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 08:19:30 EST ID:EI1cAIjn No.875667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there a psychoactive substance that just makes your vision wavy and nothing else?
Ebenezer Fullerfield - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 09:43:53 EST ID:LEbdPEHt No.875669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Low dose of 2C-B comes to mind. Say 10mg. Makes you a bit happy and euphoric as well.
Ernest Duckfoot - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:46:47 EST ID:lNZjvjql No.875713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I might not speak for most people here, but for me any psy makes me think trippy thoughts way before they make me see trippy things. 2cb 25i lsd you name it. Not to mention classical deep mindspace psys like mesc or shrooms.

Best DOx compound by Hamilton Hublingbanks - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 03:04:22 EST ID:DmIMGQNa No.875625 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's the best DOx compound in your opinion? I'm getting into psychedelics and going to start with LSD and a psychedelic amphetamine. I've gone through Erowid, I want to hear your opnions too.
Martin Cebberwere - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 07:24:04 EST ID:LVt9015F No.875630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well of the DOx series I've only had the pleasure of trying DOM and DOB.

I enjoyed my experiences with both but I'd say overall I prefer DOB to DOM.

I find DOB more similar to LSD in character than DOM is, just the way it's visuals look and the way it makes me feel silly. DOM on the other hand had a more mushroomy character.

DOB was more euphoric and produced a warm fuzzy body high without too much negative body load. DOM also produces this feeling but it's not a pleasant and I found myself getting more physical discomfort on DOM.

That said the creator of both chemicals preferred DOM and considered it among it top 6 favorite chems. Many people seem to prefer DOM too.

Either one will make a fine choice I think, unfortunately I can't comment on DOI, DOC or any of the others.
Sidney Sondergold - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 14:59:01 EST ID:xWpzQL/t No.875639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've tried DOI and DOM. I honestly prefer DOI over DOM. I don't know if it was the formulation but DOM was subjectively more intense, but less pleasurable. DOI had more visuals, DOM had more audio hallucinations, although both had bits of both.

DOI was my go-to drug for a long time, I especially loved the duration and the intensity was just right. However, I bought it from a different vendor than the DOM so it's possible it was just laid on the blotter better.

DMT and your lungs by Edwin Shakeville - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:27:12 EST ID:6LpStKRJ No.875341 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey, SWIM vaped DMT 2 weeks ago and has had irritated lungs ever since. Has anybody else experienced this?

Additional information: SWIM usually mixes tobacco with his marijuana but ever since vaping DMT he's been coughing up huge black chunks every time, and feels pins and needles in his lungs every time he coughs. He recalls this happening the last time he tried DMT, 3 years ago.

TL;DR: is DMT known to irritate the lungs? my half-baked friends seem to think that this is just "dmt purging the lungs, man.", but i'm not too sure.
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Ernest Pidgecocke - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:46:53 EST ID:lNZjvjql No.875610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
easiest is heptane or hexane and freeze precip and long drying.
Hamilton Hublingbanks - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 02:57:34 EST ID:DmIMGQNa No.875624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fucking kill yourself you worthless piece of shit waste of a human life

Anyway, as for the drugs that YOU ARE DOING AND LAW ENFORCEMENT IS READING THIS AND ABOUT TO KICK DOWN YOUR DOOR RIGHT NOW BECAUSE YOU ARE DOING DRUGS, keep in mind DMT is fucking heavy. When YOU THE SPECIFIC PERSON WHO WROTE THE OP are smoking it, you might want to think of mixing it with something else. I like weed, but because YOU THE PERSON DOING ILLEGAL DRUGS are so much of a pussy you have to mix your weed with tobacco maybe just cut out the middle man.
Basil Cattingfare - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 04:47:46 EST ID:DCugQdPz No.875626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Settle down, someone's paranoia shouldn't be this offensive
Shitting Hellybedge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 08:39:09 EST ID:aFU8WSey No.875632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't cut yourself with all that edge
Clara Bardridge - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:39:43 EST ID:yPSYSzJX No.875654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think DMT is something that should be taken by itself, at least for the first time. that shit is waaay too intense and, unlike LSD or MDMA, there's nothing too new to be gained for mixing it with shit. weed makes the trip more dirty with virtually all psychedelics, and DMt is no exception.

1p-lsd tolerance and come up time by poutine - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:59:39 EST ID:fd1waSmt No.875575 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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yo, i did 1p-lsd 3 weeks ago, then 2 weeks ago. I'm pretty sure my tolerance wasn't back to baseline then. i plan on tripping this week end, would my tolerance be back to 0 now? did no hallucinogens, only dck on friday night, nothing since otherwise.

also, this week end, i plan on tripping with my friend. she has actual LSD and we want to come up/peak as close as possible to one another. both experiences ive had with 1p-lsd took me like 3 hours to start coming up. only did lsd once but i feel like it was closer to a hour and a half? how much earlier than her should i dose?

thank you so much!
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Beatrice Higglecocke - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:25:33 EST ID:JN/SiNtN No.875597 Ignore Report Quick Reply


Yeah, not sure what to tell you, whenever i trip with friends its talking then there is just a moment of silence and in our own heads (CEV tripping and all that) and then there is talking again. Depends what you want out of the experience.

No idea on recommendations though, maybe you should talk to her? see what shes up for and plan around it and just take whatever.

I suppose, you should both take the same dose, if you havent taken it in two weeks you should be fine.
Fanny Wallydock - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:07:27 EST ID:pNUFgCWr No.875600 Ignore Report Quick Reply

no i mean im doing 1p-lsd, shes doing lsd. i noticed the come up on 1p-lsd was way slower, that's why im asking. (like 3 hours vs 1:30, but i dont know how accurate those times are so i was wondering if anyone had more experience with both drugs to have a clearer idea)

and yeah, we're looking for a more social experience than going in really deep and CEVs, but i think ill try 150 and see where that brings me. thanks for the advice
Floyd !lEVA02JLzI - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:20:27 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.875608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> i was wondering if anyone had more experience with both drugs to have a clearer idea
me acid takes 45 minutes to come up and 1p takes more like an hour to an hour and 20 minutes.
Floyd !lEVA02JLzI - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:21:03 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.875609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
meant to say ime*
Wesley Crinderfere - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 16:45:37 EST ID:fd1waSmt No.875611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you all come up fast...i wonder if my ssri/heavy disso use has anything to do with it

DOM by Cedric Bunbury - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 09:08:36 EST ID:CsKc6704 No.875533 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I dosed 7.5 mg DOM last tues or wed (i think wed) And I am thinking about dosing again today at either 7.5, or 10 mg of the same batch. I'm worried about tolerance though I've heard 7 days is just enough to reset tolerance to baseline. Also my "trip" wasn't very visual and was mostly a thought trip if that makes sense, it wasn't really good or bad euphoria wise, but I'm definitely curious to go further into the rabbit hole. I was also amazed at how long the experience lasted, slightly beyond the 48 hour mark I still felt some effects, not as strong of course, but I was glad I had the time free. It wound up being an introspective 2 days in bed online etc. So I'm wondering if I should bump it up to 10 given tolerance/wanting to go further or keep it the same?
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Jenny Sendersteg - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 16:56:35 EST ID:BIorpN/t No.875574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DOM is bad for you to do frequently as with most RCs.

Frequent use could potentially cause heart issues due to activation of the 5ht2b receptor. Also permanent HPPD has been reported with frequent use of DOx compounds.
Ian Donningfuck - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:25:13 EST ID:LVt9015F No.875583 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Why are you talking out of your ass Jenny?

>DOM is bad for you to do frequently as with most RCs.

Do you have any proof that frequent DOM use is any more dangerous than using any of the classic, non-rc psychedelics such as LSD, mushrooms and mescaline? Or 2cb?

>Frequent use could potentially cause heart issues due to activation of the 5ht2b receptor.

Mushrooms have a higher affinity for the 5ht2b receptor than DOM does. Given that most people don't use psychedelics on a daily basis and their use is fairly self regulating - I'm guessing the risk of complications regarding heart vavle overgrowth resulting from the use of psychedelics is minimal.

>Also permanent HPPD has been reported with frequent use of DOx compounds.

Do you have any non-anecdotal evidence for this?
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Charlotte Currychere - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 00:32:49 EST ID:plrBO4D0 No.875584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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friendly reminder that DOM is the poor man's mescaline. You guys would ditch your bitter tasting awful tabs if you had access to the original roll.
Ian Donningfuck - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 03:35:55 EST ID:LVt9015F No.875585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm not a good trip report writer but the gist of DOM compared to LSD is:

>Longer more gradual come up than
>Less manic/intense mental stimulation
>Visions are more pastel and less neon
>headspace less intense/more relaxed
>more of a "stoned" headspace
>more physical/body stimulation
>body high feels a lot like 2cb but less pleasant
>closed eye visuals resemble 2cb
>open eye visuals were a bit mushroom-ish

Overall I find that the slower moving/less frantic headspace of DOM makes it drug more conducive though thought than LSD. With LSD I just want to dance and play and am bursting with energy so much that it becomes super recreational. With DOM I found it easy to reflect on my life and choices and get an almost psychoanalytic effect from it.
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Clara Bloffingpedge - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 03:44:34 EST ID:/mnyjppE No.875586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
speed coke do not generally mix with acid. Same as tobacco, coffee. If one smokes cigs, then whatever, but it makes the dose less freindly after smoking a cig. From there on.

Pot is, part of dosing.

SSRIs and LSD (or /psy/ in general) by Esther Gammercocke - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:21:58 EST ID:N6gahx1X No.875581 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been doing some light research and i can't really discern of SSRIs have a noticeable interaction with LSD. I was always under the impression that antidepressants (maybe ones other than SSRIs?) would basically kill a trip unless you took a much higher dose than normal, or possibly even effect you negatively.

However, after looking around and reading peoples experiences (with LSD and escitalopram in particular) probably more than half of the people say it had no effect on their trip, while the other half say it killed their trip entirely, or dulled the effects.

So what do you guys think? I'm sure it varies from person to person but i didn't expect such a wide range of opinions.
Esther Gammercocke - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 23:24:16 EST ID:N6gahx1X No.875582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My friend who started taking escitalopram maybe a week or two ago is doing LSD tonight for the first time since he started, so I'll update the thread once he tells me how it went.

25b-nboh ald-52 by Polly Samblekack - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 00:13:27 EST ID:Q40aRBDZ No.875556 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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experience with these, would be appreciated. links, takes on strength, anything insightful.
Simon Clammleduck - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 09:48:04 EST ID:XRzola0E No.875564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Done both. Ald 52 is the purest cleanest lsd ive ever had. Done doses fromt 75ug-300 and have tried it with other drugs like 3 meo and my fave, dxm. Also did a tab of ald and 25b at same time too. The ald doesnt give me bad body feels like some lsd can, but its alot lighter of a trip and more loopy and has more "onion layers" as it lasts abit longer imo. A good trip is 125-175ug for me

25b nboh is the only 25xxx ive tried and its not too bad. Quite bitter and u have to subligual it, and it doesnt feel as healthy tbh, but its not like ive heard 25i to be. 25b ive done in doses of 500ug to 1000, and i think 500 is too weak for most people, 1000 being pretty chill too tbh. The headspace is very clear and it isnt as enlightening as ald , this is more like visual and ear candy as everything looks and sounds really cool. It also makes my body feel light anf almost slightly dissociated.

All in all they are both great but ald 52 is king lysergamide imo. I was paying like 25$ for 15 500ug hits of the 25b so it was worth it, but i wouldnt pay much more than that for it. Ald however is worth evry penny. I think ik who ur buying from so u should be in a good space...
Edward Pickford - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 18:24:50 EST ID:x3ZXKBZU No.875577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How is ald compared to real lsd? Ya its going for 6$ hit 25nboh 1$hit
Frederick Gellywire - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 22:23:16 EST ID:tDfSM4rL No.875580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Literally the same shit. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference if someone gave it to you unknowingly.
> LSD == ALD-52 == 1P-LSD
Just get some 1P-LSD. There's a deal right now, 7 tabs for around $3.80/each.

Needing some advice by David Drebblenidge - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 17:09:54 EST ID:ZSHyteyz No.875576 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Long story short I haven't tripped on a good while and was just curious about a couple things.

The last chem I did was 2c-p and it was the time of my life.
My first question is what is out currently that had a simmalar high? I'm looking for good visuals and duration.
And secondly is it possible to find 2c-p again or is it extinct

Making ayahuasca by James Shittingspear - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 01:15:27 EST ID:BBZsYXAY No.875520 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ordered ayahuasca ingredients. Could I just eat it or do I have to make a tea? Also what is the best prep for 2 people? 39g Banisteriopsis Caapi, 14g Psychotria viridis, and 25g chaliponga Leaves .
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Graham Bodgefitch - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 13:53:42 EST ID:97QlBc20 No.875543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the water makes it go out a lot easier. i don't recommend just trying to eat it.
the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:35:02 EST ID:fOPZ0jU4 No.875546 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is literally indigestible wood, do not try to eat it. There's a reason people make tea from it.
wordmachine - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:22:41 EST ID:N9Xv2xPb No.875559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
are you being ironic?
George Hadgetedging - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:09:04 EST ID:BBZsYXAY No.875569 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks for the tips!
George Hadgetedging - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 12:09:58 EST ID:BBZsYXAY No.875570 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks for the advice!

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