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Worthwhile RC's by Molly Grandcocke - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 17:57:44 EST ID:wZo7lJXD No.881456 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So what are the best psychedelic RC's that are legal in the US or most of the world? I want to buy something that's cheap but also good for tripping with. I can't order from the darknet anymore because I already got a loveletter a couple months ago, and I am weary to try it again.
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Albert Chondlestone - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:33:05 EST ID:XL6pjUpz No.881510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah, unless it's a massive quantity
Doris Trotforth - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:09:12 EST ID:zo7fAR/d No.881514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can you buy this stuff in person somewhere rather than online?
Ernest Nicklewater - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:30:32 EST ID:SaFsimDa No.881515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LOL good luck sourcing exotic tryptamines somewhere else that isn't online. and even then you're playing a russian roulette, there's a sky high chance what you're being sold isn't the chemical you want. IF your dealer actually knows these chemicals at all, even something like LSD can be pretty exotic if you're not in the circles.

you can do this anon, these RC dealers have been at it for years now and they know what they're doing. once you pop the dark net cherry there's no going back, soon you'll be boofing exotic RCs up your ass like everyone else here.
Doris Trotforth - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 22:58:00 EST ID:zo7fAR/d No.881517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wasn't talking about dealers. I was talking about shops selling these chemicals for scientific experimentation.
Archie Brondledock - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:49:59 EST ID:SaFsimDa No.881541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've never seen any store carrying any kind of psychoactive substances at all in my entire life, even salvia needed to be sourced from the internet. I don't think anyone wants their bussiness to be the culprit of a new overdose wave. But hey I'm from latin america so you might as well give it a try.

Doing shrooms for the first time in a few days by Walter Durryfoot - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 01:43:46 EST ID:jppW1w9L No.881159 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Without spoiling it, tell me what i should know?
What should i do? Im thinking going for a hike and listening to pink floyd is a good start.
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Hugh Huvingbury - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:30:38 EST ID:bnsJx1FX No.881504 Ignore Report Quick Reply


How should I be storing them? They seem dry.

Oh, how should I shoot them up first time?
Doris Sannerterk - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 19:35:59 EST ID:xP5bfefp No.881505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SHOOT THEM UP???!!! Hahaha oh man... you don't inject shrooms! You just eat them or make tea with them. You can store them anywhere dry, dark, and cool. I recommend a cabinet or a pantry.
Ebenezer Guckleshit - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:00:06 EST ID:bnsJx1FX No.881506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What about putting them on a hot ZA????
William Birrydock - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 20:37:23 EST ID:Iyfrbm6f No.881511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tfw you inject shrooms
Jarvis Dunderfuck - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 21:53:40 EST ID:TzwKY8t4 No.881513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You should realize that shooting that up will probably kill you just as can those evil cannabis injections some people make propaganda about. Unless you go chemist and extract the psilocybin into some IV safe liquid form.

Generally, drying any mushrooms is a great way to store them, and freezing adds even more time. People just eat that. You should also note that weighting mushrooms coming out of freezer or ones fresh that are not properly dried gives too small doses because the moisture adds up a lot of weight. Let them sit on a desk before measuring and consuming. Some people just eyeball them for a wanted dose, which should be easy if you obtained a precise amount measured by someone else and then split that to bunches by eye. But personally I'd use a
digital 0.001g precision scale just because I have it.

Have fun.

GC/MS and RCs by Emma Blenkinridge - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:06:37 EST ID:nBJElm78 No.881269 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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would 4-AcO-MET show up on a gc/ms scan that wasn't specifically testing for it? (like could it maybe show up as psilocin or something)
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Isabella Brendermick - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 13:59:32 EST ID:Z3Nu3nM6 No.881301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My cousin is a chem major, about to have his BA in the spring of 2018.
From what I understand about the conversations we have had, GC/MS stands for Gas Chromatography/Mass Spectrometry.
*I believe* that the way it works is more less the sample is separated into gasses and spread out molecule by molecule. The machine can then read what the molecules are in the air more less by a positive or negative reading (i.e. you were looking for 4-Ho -MET so if its a postive reading, its there)
I believe there are more complicated terms and instructions with this but thats more less the general concept.
Even then, an experienced lab chemist should be able to extrapolate data from the readings and deduce what the chemical was or at least the general structure of it.

If you're sending your stuff off to something like epill reports or xtcdata then i think they should be able to tell you what you've got.
generally speaking, they can figure out more tryptamine structures easily because all(unless im mistaken) tryptamines are indole psychedelic drugs meaning once they have a general idea, the can perform a few tests to rule out possibilities.
I think their machines have a harder time when its something really new and out there like strange cathinones,weird phenethylamines or synthetic canabinoids.
Esther Papperstuck - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:06:11 EST ID:7YQTIZC+ No.881303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They generally analyse an enormous list of potential known compounds and then analysts try and determine its exact make up from nearest matches. If you work on one of those machines all day you learn what common chemicals like MDMA look like. They can tell you you have some weird chemical that the machine doesn't recognise. There is no real reason to know any more. you choose between taking homeless poison or throwing it away. it doesn't really matter what the chemical make up of the substance it is since the effects of taking it recreationally won't be documented.
Jarvis Crinkinnadge - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 23:34:07 EST ID:hVnUptQX No.881463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wouldn't some really common shit like tryptophan show up as similar to an indole psychedelic?
Fanny Barringsure - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 17:30:45 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.881496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i don't see why it would. something would likely have to be much more similar in structure than that to cause a false positive.

actually, just looking it up right now i found this:
"GC-MS has been regarded as a "gold standard" for forensic substance identification because it is used to perform a 100% specific test, which positively identifies the presence of a particular substance. A nonspecific test merely indicates that any of several in a category of substances is present. Although a nonspecific test could statistically suggest the identity of the substance, this could lead to false positive identification."

i suppose it depends on how specific the test is. I really doubt somebody looking for indole psychedelics would use a test so nonspecific that something like tryptophan could generate a false positive though. the test would be far too inconclusive to be of any real value
Jarvis Crinkinnadge - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:47:38 EST ID:hVnUptQX No.881503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm just trying to figure out if there is any chance that 4-AcO-MET could be found in a sample that is not specifically being tested for it (but is being tested for other indole psychedelics).

I am aware it would not show up as a false positive do to the precision of GC/MS however my question is it will have similar enough properties that it may look similar to another indole psychedelic, thus prompting more tests to see what it is exactly.

1P-LSD by Angus Murdway - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:24:07 EST ID:KKL3vteo No.881272 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone try 1P-LSD? I can buy it legally here and I was wondering what anyone's experience with it is. How does it compare to plain old LSD? Shit I can buy 100 blotters of 100ug for like $400
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Lydia Turveywater - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:42:04 EST ID:mmYNOJuj No.881416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've taken it myself on multiple occasions. Essentially the exact same thing for me, personally. Only noticeable difference detected was slightly longer trips, by about an hour or so.

If you don't mind me asking, whereabouts do you live OP, seeing as how you are able to purchase it legally?

Wish I could find a supplier :(
Rebecca Biblingstone - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 14:45:10 EST ID:Htan80U5 No.881487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used the term 'legally' a little too hastily. I live in the US, and a particular website sells 1p as an RC. It worries me, however, that 1p is an analogue of LSD and thus is still considered a schedule I drug here.

From what I've read, buying blotters of 1p is considered an intent to consume and if I got caught I would definitely go to jail. That said, I've read that many people have bought 1p off this website with no hassles at all. Still, I don't think it's worth the risk.
Lillian Madgecocke - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:27:00 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.881491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why would you go to jail for such a small amount? 100 blotters?
Charles Brookdale - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:12:18 EST ID:kHESVT6m No.881498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty sure 1plsd just turns into lsd in your stomach dude.
Fanny Barringsure - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 18:35:38 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.881500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whether or not that actually occurs is up for debate

Snorting Yopo by Fuck Bengerlock - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:42:05 EST ID:4df/jSAL No.881476 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone tried to snort pure yopo seed powder?
Ive read about adding calcium hydroxide to it, but is it really necessary?
Isabella Bottingwell - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 12:13:17 EST ID:4IlbOXXu No.881478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>be you
>try to snort ground up seeds
>add strong base to ground up seeds
>snort it
>fucking get shrecked blood running out of nose cause base burning inside of face
>dont put calcium hydroxide in it dumbass

Where how :( by Jack Pankinwater - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 12:57:15 EST ID:XQ1+mjZX No.880910 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What does one do when one's LSD dealer has left the state and one is trying to cop some damn tabs in a touristy city?

In other words, what the fuck do you guys do when you don't know anyone who deals in the psychs you guys are trying to purchase? Yik yak was my place to go to find people but that's deleted now. Man am I frustrated.
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Augustus Durringdale - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 17:19:21 EST ID:2j9zxonq No.881179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
peyote takes decades to mature and is now endangered because of its slow growth and people picking it whenever they find it, but peruvian torch and san pedro grow much faster, in many more kinds of environments, and are more plentiful, but weaker in alkaloid content.
Lydia Turveywater - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:44:08 EST ID:mmYNOJuj No.881417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I can't find tabs to save my life, let alone DMT.

Lillian Munninghood - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:59:53 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.881420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Find here the nomadic hippies gather and show up there with shiny rocks and trade goods.
Doris Mashshaw - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:56:27 EST ID:yHUaQLLV No.881425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just brew some ayahuasca - order some of the precursors from domestic sources, like MHRB/ACRB/chacruna along with the guide plants like syrian rue or caapi. Or extract the DMT freebase yourself and smoke it. Or get on DNM with TOR and have it delivered to your front door. Many ways to find it if it's calling you.

Anyways, street DMT dealers find you in the most unexpected of places and times, not the other way around.
Nicholas Sungercocke - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 19:32:26 EST ID:BvSqZUPv No.881461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you most likely won't get fucked at customs, especially if you buy lighter weight.

Reed Canary Grass (Phalaris Arundinacea) by Fuck Drissleworth - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:41:46 EST ID:UV0RFM3d No.881414 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How good is reed canary grass as an entheogen? Has anybody here tried it?

I want to start practicing Seidr, or something like it, and it would be much better to be able to easily gather the tools than to have to buy them all the time, legally or otherwise.
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Fucking Blellercocke - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:01:44 EST ID:aAPDBF2I No.881441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man, look at yourself. You are valuing your own opinion so much and think anybody would care about it.
the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 04:39:35 EST ID:VntRHnXU No.881445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't have to go fedora to point out that neo-paganism is stupid. No one actually knows to any meaningful extent what "seidr" involved so people have just made up the details, much like how Wiccanism purports to be an ancient and pre-Christian religion but was invented in the 20th century out of imagery cribbed from Hermeticism. This applies to neo-paganism generally. It's a totally kitsch religion with an invented past. This is why Nazis love it, incidentally, fascists are in general obsessed with kitsch as a window into their mythic history.
James Pevingnick - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:00:18 EST ID:UV0RFM3d No.881447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>not reading the whole thread where I explicitly say I shouldn't have referred directly to seidr
>not knowing we do actually have much closer to contemporary examples of European practices that involve "traveling the spirit world" and actual current examples of such in other societies
Neopaganism and hardcore reconstructionism both leave a bad taste in my mouth for different reasons. I'm just reading some history and trying shit out for myself to see what, if anything, happens.

Also, every religion was invented (or divinely received, I suppose) at some point.
James Cloffinglock - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 10:26:57 EST ID:ifJ7iiep No.881448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucking retard
James Donderhadge - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:49:43 EST ID:4IlbOXXu No.881453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you need to use a shit ton of it and do a classic alkaliod extraction. Honestly though it has compounds related to dmt that arent dmt as well and some of those you dont want to get high on. you wont die but dont be suprised when while your tripping your skin turns fucking purple.

Looking for books by Sidney Pusslemick - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:43:40 EST ID:JEBLvmCI No.881430 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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South american shaman ayahuasca and cactus use (as I plan to go to peru and maybe some where else in south America next year)

And on psychedelic use for the better good in therapeutic/medical settings.

These days you can find little articles online what go into these subjects a fair bit so I want something what goes a bit beyond that.

btw I know this has a few books http://www.maps.org/resources/freebooks

>ALso im wanting to buy a physical book so I have something there so dont make me waste my money
Sidney Pusslemick - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:51:38 EST ID:JEBLvmCI No.881431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are any of John C. Lilly books worth reading ? Can much be learnt from them ?
Doris Mashshaw - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:58:51 EST ID:yHUaQLLV No.881432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You won't know until you read them.
the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 03:50:20 EST ID:VntRHnXU No.881444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Read this book, it will change your life.
George Happerlutch - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 12:16:03 EST ID:HyV6PMMY No.881450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Have read all of them. Center of the Cyclone and Programming and The Deep Self is a good start. Programming and Metaprogramming is cool and shows how intelligent he is, but most of it is just a bunch of acid rambling about human consciousness. If you do end up reading it, don't get an abridged version. His biography John Lilly, So Far... is great too.

Don't bother with The Scientist. It's a bunch of K-ridden ramblings (unless you want to see how much it messed up his mind). Same goes for his dolphin books. Most of them are about cruel and nonsensical expedients that would be illegal today.
Samuel Brookforth - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 16:24:23 EST ID:JEBLvmCI No.881451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is the programming one have the same ideas as Prometheus rising ?

Psilocybin Crystals by Simon Napperspear - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 20:42:13 EST ID:DpVobbJ9 No.881309 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was wondering if anyone here has any insight on pure psilocybin crystals, I have used mushroom tinctures before and had great results the only problem is you have to take a shot of vodka for every 2 grams. (that's the ratio for the tincture I use). The problem here is I want to do heroic doses in the future (My next high dose being 10 grams) it's next to impossible for me to stomach the raw material now even masking the taste or washing them down I still gag and have a hard time, and taking 5+ shots of vodka in a minute or two isn't exactly a great way to start a trip. does anyone have any experience with psilocybin crystals and any links to extraction techniques?

Tl;Dr What are some ways to get purer psilocybin crystals
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Ian Henderfeck - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:20:13 EST ID:Z3Nu3nM6 No.881316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I may be a bit mistaken in my understanding, but I believe that isolating 4-HO-DMT to freebase or fumerate is relatively difficult for the average cauldron chemist. Extracting it via grain alcohol suspends the actives and some mushroom proteins in the alcohol used ex. the vodka in question.

In an ideal situation,Everclear or higher proof would be more useful.
However, I dont think there is a way to actually take the crystals out of the alcohol by viable layman means.
If you want pure psilocybin crystals, you probably should just opt for 4-ACO-DMT
David Bingersuck - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 23:28:12 EST ID:1dIBL3Og No.881318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey friend, if you have a hotplate that you can take outside I would set up a double boiler to boil off the alcohol in the vodka. You should do this outside with a fan because the alcohol vapors are very combustible. You can youtube double boiler if you haven't set one up before. I would take the 5 shots and boil it down to 1 myself, you could theoretically boil it down to crystals but the vodka might not boil down to crystal well compared to pure alcohol.
Jenny Clollyham - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 06:50:04 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.881327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the vodka is the tincture, the psilocybin is dissolved into the spirit of your choosing. in this case vodka
Nigel Bollylock - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 00:22:35 EST ID:Ioy1Szj/ No.881443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Standard acid/base extraction m8. Works on all the alkaloids.
Shit Blackbanks - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 07:22:54 EST ID:eyiDP2DU No.881446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seriously just buy some 4-aco-dmt my dude. Inject it for bonus points - shit is fucking nuuuuts.

As for shrooms, just make some tea or something.

Following the White Rabbit by Matilda Dunderhock - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:59:08 EST ID:aT5Ba1E4 No.881435 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So for a little bit of backstory, the last time I tripped (and incidently posted on this board) was a fucking nightmare. It took me awhile to get back to a good place, just long enough for that to be shattered by a bitch.

Fast forward to beginning of last month, one year to the day that I broke up with this horrible woman I once loved. My friends convincement me to go out to Dragon Con with them instead of moping at home. So I went, and I could tell a whole story about that weekend, but I have a more specific story from it.

Friday night I'm at a room party, getting drinks, rolling blunts, having the time of my life when all of a sudden this beautiful, tall as a tree, and thicc woman comes my way. We got chemistry, and eventually we leave the party with some friends to hit up the rave. Going well, I learn how to spin a dragon staff and poy, we rave until 6am before eventually it was time to go.

Before I left she told me to find her later on at the con, that she wanted to me to take LSD with her. Naturally. This became my mission for the rest of the convention to make that shit happen. During all of this, I forgot to mention, she was wearing a white rabbit tail and ears. I'm quite literally following the white rabbit to see where the hole goes.

Didn't see her throughout all of the next day, which is a another good story but I digress. Last day of the con, which I ended up spending the most of it outside of the hotel, I finally got back to it around 9 when she hits me up telling me to meet her outside the hotel. When I find her, looking like she walked out of a dream, she puts a tab on my tongue and we venture off to another hotel.

Eventually we wind up at a Steampunk themed rave just as the peak was starting, and God damnit my dudes...it was amazing. We just about did everything but fuck on the dance floor and it was just bliss as I hadn't known it in a long time.

During my absence, apparently a lot of bullshit and drama was going on with the group I came to the con with...So my night ended up about ten thousand times better than it would have. Unfortunately, this bullshit ballooned into some major bullshit and I had to leave far sooner than I wanted to help my friend a mutual friend back to the hotel a few blocks away.

My only regret? Besides leaving in the first place (As that was a thing I needed to do); she texts me again at 4am asking me to come out and take Molly with her. By that point though I was still tripping balls, my flight home left early in the day, and regardless I wasn't wanting to brave a gauntlet of Atlanta's homeless population between my hotel and the con. Massive amounts of regret not going despite the logic of it O.O
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Jarvis Hungerway - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:26:08 EST ID:SY8uFri/ No.881436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I came back home feeling more alive than I have in a long time
Dont worry about it, it will fade in a week or so :)
Basil Duckshaw - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 19:48:24 EST ID:7YQTIZC+ No.881437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cool story bro!
Jack Pittwell - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:57:12 EST ID:yHUaQLLV No.881442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nice, that rocks. One time I met a priestess too but I was too scared and ran away. I regret it.

Ayahuasca by Esther Trothall - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:28:52 EST ID:HyV6PMMY No.881381 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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See a lot of posts about LSD, shrooms, and RCs around here. Where's my ayahuasca family?
Lydia Ficklekat - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:26:40 EST ID:2j9zxonq No.881398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried 1 gram rue and 1 gram MHRB to dip my toe into the experience, and it definitely made me wanna shit, even at such a small dose.
I would love to fast and try it again, if I wasn't a) bad at fasting, which I probably need to do, knowing what I know now, and b) wasn't a student in a dorm in a busy metropolitan area who didn't have access to somewhere nice to trip.

Maybe I could bang out to the woods and camp solo one weekend with aya. But I would need to buy all the gear... and it would be better if I had someone to do it with. now that would be fun.

Such a beautiful experience to explore, I bet.
Henry Pollerdock - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:05:39 EST ID:HyV6PMMY No.881411 Ignore Report Quick Reply

In my experience rue + MHRB doesn't have the same spirit as ayahuasca. It reminds me more of changa, but super long. The vine keeps watch over you and guide you through the experience, so it's a lot more comforting. You only need to fast for a few hours or else your stomach will have trouble absorbing it. I usually fast from 2PM to midnight. One of my friends gets super hungry after purging and skipped fasting so it's not that much of an issue anyway. The dieta is the most important IMO.

Be careful about camping outside while intoxicated. Even though I'm sure it would be a great experience, you have to be weary of wild animals. There's a lot of coyotes out here. And ticks. And the whole toilet and puke bucket issue.
Lillian Munninghood - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:04:54 EST ID:bfB0voM7 No.881422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Unless there are bears and mountain lions, it's not that big of an issue. Most animals are scared off by groups of people flailing around making weird sounds all night... Except for owls. They just stand there, staring down at you, knowing if they just hop on your face with those razor talons, you're gonna be fucked up.... Razorchickens they be.
Doris Mashshaw - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 17:06:31 EST ID:yHUaQLLV No.881428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Rue as a guiding spirit feels more like being guided by a wild animal compared to Caapi.

Is Ayahuasca the answer? by Samuel Mipperpat - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:47:52 EST ID:u2DgC0KC No.881258 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'll try and keep this short as possible and give you the tl;dr at the start...

Mid-30s, no career or relationship, anxiety, low-self-esteem, drifting through life with no sense of purpose and have felt completely miserable and out of options for a long time. Considering Ayahuasca.

I've never done any psychedelics. Never had access to them. I am in a position where I really feel the need to find "answers" but I get the feeling that maybe there are none and that searching for them is part of my problem. I am a very introspective and intuitive type of person by nature but also, very skeptical. I have been thinking about a Peruvian Ayahuasca retreat for a while but having watched numerous videos and documentaries, I get the impression its just another scam industry set up to rinse trust-fund hippies and naive, damaged people (like me). Having travelled a bit and been on a couple of meditation retreats, I have encountered many stereotypical hippie types who rave about Ayahuasca but who I generally found to be very conceited people playing around with a fake spiritual persona.

Whilst I don't doubt that Ayahuasca can have very real effects on a persons psyche and open certain doors of perception, I wonder if its something I should personally pursue. Ultimately, I see it as an escape from reality and whichever way I try and spin it, I would be looking for a panacea for life's problems which I know that NO plant or substance can provide. But I feel such a sense of desperation for inner change that extreme measures are called for.

What are your thoughts on someone such as myself taking Ayahuasca? Are there certain places/retreats to definitely avoid? How does one readapt to every day life having taken the plant and what would you say is the risk/reward ratio for a very neurotic person.

Sorry for the long post but I didn't know where else to ask and you guys seem to know your stuff

Peace and thanks
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Henry Heggleham - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:36:30 EST ID:ICOuoax0 No.881293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a psy experience isnt going to anything but highlight the problems you have in your life. If you already know whats wrong then only thing that will change your life is hard work. It MIGHT give you a fleeting sense of motivation, but long term you have to put in the work just like everyone else, psys arent a cheat code.
Edward Fallersid - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:12:14 EST ID:yHUaQLLV No.881296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>psys arent a cheat code.
They honestly are like using cheats if you take them before writing an important presentation or essay.
Cornelius Buzzman - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 09:44:40 EST ID:GI2f19Ii No.881330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay fam you seem to know your stuff. What does "face your deepest fears" mean? Like, have them occur right in front of you? Are you supposed to think of a solution to them, or what? How does one handle such a thing and not go insane, as you put it? (I actually don't know, I usually just avoid things that I don't like). The death part and accepting the loss of self doesn't seem scary but the interim does.
Oliver Nizzlechirk - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:26:23 EST ID:Iyfrbm6f No.881332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Basically you may see horrifying things manifested before you, and understand the deepest depths of human hatred and atrocity, but you wont remember the worst parts. You basically have to grit your teeth and accept the beatdown from the universe with gratitude. You will also understand the highest highs however, feel the most shining unconditional love and empathy for everyone and everything around you, and see into forever basically.

If you just let go and relax into the experience everything will be fine, the psychosis happens when you dont want to accept certain aspects about human nature. Like we all have the capacity to hurt the people around us deeply, if we pretend that we're solely motivated by good intentions all the time then cognitive dissonance sets in, we become delusional and everyone around us can see through our bullshit.

And you will come back afterward, you'll never be "permafried" from one experience. You just need to accept the things you feel and experience without judgment. Dont overthink it. Dont try to escape pain or suffering or "avoid things you dont like" (it seems completely counterintuitive to our survival wiring but facing fear head on is actually very helpful for developing as a person)
Henry Pollerdock - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 10:14:05 EST ID:HyV6PMMY No.881412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's ultimately up to you. You're not wrong about ayahuasca cults either. There's a lot of people out there that use it to manipulate people and get them to keep coming back for their money. There's even numerous cases of abuse linked to corrupt shamans. I believe it's a very powerful medicine and personally it helped me a lot with PTSD. However, as you said, most aya drinkers are conceited "spiritualists" that are full of shit.

If you do go to a retreat, be VERY careful about who you choose. There are lots of cults out there and I was in one myself. It's really hard to get out. It's like losing a family that claims to love you dearly but is extremely manipulative and isn't supportive of your decisions. I still get harassed by members of the cult that I was in for speaking out about the molestation and other abuse I experienced on behalf of the group.

Honestly, I'd recommend just doing mushrooms with a friend or two and see how that goes. Ayahuasca is awesome and all, but it's no instant solution to your problems...

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