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LSD first time no effect by Henry Fammlehidge - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 22:34:09 EST ID:CsKc6704 No.874762 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /psy/? Yesterday I took 280ug of LSD and 180mg of ecstasy. Was my first time with both, I felt very, very little effects, though my pupils were extremely dilated, i also got hot and cold flashes to the point where I'd be shivering and dripping sweat at the same time just sitting in bed on a 68 degree day. I got very minor visuals, nothing too trippy, just when I'd look in the mirror to check my eyes I noticed my face distorting slightly. Why did I get so little effect? I have significant experience with DXM, and I've read there may be a cross tolerance, but it's been about a month and a half since I last dexed. I take an antipsychotic and an antidepressant, both of which I did not take for 6 days in advance of the LSD. Was on a totally empty stomach, well rested, source is reasonably trustworthy. Anyone know?
Martha Clibberfuck - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 00:36:48 EST ID:GJcAkIJP No.874764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your acid was either really weak to begin with or it got degraded by improper handling/storage. Keep in mind that LSD is very fragile and needs to be kept away from direct light, moisture, and heat. I like to wrap mine in aluminum foil and then put it in a ziplock bag. It needs to be kept away from heat so you can put it in the fridge (not freezer) as well if you live in a hot area. BEtter luck next time.

You still should have felt the MDMA though... How much did you take? .1? If you have highly acidic foods or drinks before MDMA it could degrade the drug too. Otherwise maybe you needed a bigger dose at the time because you took it on a very full stomach or perhaps you have some tolerance to stimulants.

Hope this helps. Make sure you have lots of water/gatorade (for electrolytes) handy for these experiences.
Nell Pockworth - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 02:48:47 EST ID:Xcx3gu+e No.874766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The cross tolerance between DXM and LSD should be negligible if I am correct because they agonize different parts of your brain completely. Cross tolerance most often occurs when you take two substances within a certain amount of time that agonize/antagonize the same area or receptors.

You mentioned taking antidepressants and antipsychotics. Even if you quit for about a week before dosing, your brain needs much longer than that to revert back to the baseline brain chemistry. A friend of mine takes Zoloft prescribed, and although the drug is absent in her bloodstream within two weeks or so, it usually takes roughly two months for her brain chemistry to return to baseline. This has been outlined in the dozen times or so she has attempted to roll while stopping her prescribed medication.

I'm not sure how long of a lasting effect antipsychotics have compared to antidepressants, but my gut tells me it will take longer than a week. You may have to consider ceasing use of both for a considerable amount of time if you want to experience any strong hallucinogenic effects, especially the antipsychotics since they have a very strong reputation as "trip-stoppers" when needed in a pinch.
trippaman - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:59:27 EST ID:zt37KOWk No.874835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you felt next to nothing, then you didn't take 280ug. A lot of people get underdosed tabs, but if you actually take ~300ug, you WILL trip your face off.
Eliza Podgelug - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 17:22:45 EST ID:CsKc6704 No.874857 Ignore Report Quick Reply

took 180mg of ex. empty stomach. I weigh 280 lbs though so maybe thats why I need more. regarding the tolerance to stimulants, I did take a couple adderrall about 9-10 years ago, only effect was I felt drowsy and even sort of down. I don't remember what dose I took, but I took two and everyone else got off on one. was the XR kind, maybe 25mg?


good point on needing more time without meds, I'll certainly look into that.

Taking psychedelics when depressed by Edward Drillyway - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:18:18 EST ID:RFduHWKq No.874688 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Between the ages of 15-20 I became pretty passionate about psychedelics, and had a handful of positive trips on a few different psychedelics (and a few challenging ones too). It was very much my intention to carry on taking psychedelics in a responsible manner throughout my life, and advise others to do so too.

However, at ~21 I developed depression, for various reasons. I didn't want to be irresponsible and potentially do something stupid while tripping, so I gave up psychedelics. In fact, I gave up pretty much everything - I get drunk maybe once a month and smoke weed once or twice per year, but other than that I'm completely sober. Unfortunately though, at 24 I'm still depressed. I thought I was making progress, but some pretty dark stuff has been happening in my life and it looks like I won't be recovering any time soon.

So, with nothing much to lose, should I go back to psychedelics? Is it irresponsible to take them when depressed, or can they help you to become happy again?
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Rebecca Crossleludge - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 09:37:51 EST ID:97QlBc20 No.874808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
forgive me for asking but i'm kind of a psy newbie with a few strong trips under my belt
how does one "ramp up the dose" over the course of a trip? from everything i've read, it sounds like the tolerance buildup makes it very difficult to do that. is it necessary to have access to a large amount of shrooms/cid? or is it possible to do that with a stash typical of a more "casual user" (i.e. 5-strip/5 grams or less)
Hedda Sinderfit - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 19:34:25 EST ID:z5rvLAcb No.874838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You spend a few years to get used to tripping. For example for me personally year 1 and 2 were all about the 2g shroom trip. Year 3 was all about 3-4g. Year 4 was mostly 3-4g trips and my first exploration of the 5g shroom trip. Year 5 was all about becoming comfortable on 5g trips. Year 6 was 7g trips, and year 7 was my first 10g shroom trip.

I am sure you can do this faster, but I like to do things safe.
Never had a bad trip. Never had a freakout. Never did weird shit in public. Taking the slow road pays off in the long run.
Angus Donderlock - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:07:02 EST ID:oX4FboWa No.874839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
quality post, thank you for sharing
Sophie Bashridge - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:37:06 EST ID:VUppkb5t No.874845 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I've found that I have no problem consuming additional shrooms during a trip. The issue is that after the trip it is difficult to trip again for about a week or so.

If you eat like 1g to see how it's going to go, and then another g in about half an hour, you could potentially drop another 2 at the 1 hour mark and have no problem having a very strong trip, while having a ramp-up that allows you to adapt to your state and determine if your set and setting are sufficient that you'd like to increase your dosage.

If you took 2g the next night, though, I would expect that you'd feel high, not entirely unlike consuming cannabis, with no trip.
Sophie Bashridge - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 03:38:42 EST ID:VUppkb5t No.874846 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks. That was a tough time for me, and mushrooms really helped me get the perspective that I needed to get my life back on the right track. SLAYER.

Orally active blotter in a snuff bag? by Graham Modgebore - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 08:09:57 EST ID:TzwKY8t4 No.874646 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When using a psychedelic on a blotter that is not orally active, and the recommended route is sublingually, would it be possible to use it in a snuff bag? The sometimes tiny blotters are easy to swallow by mistake. I had an idea of cutting the blotter to tiny pieces and mixing those pieces into a snuff bag and then closing it with thread. Would saliva carry the chemical from the bag to the mucous membrane without loss in effectiveness?
Hamilton Genninglock - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:06:34 EST ID:CMqT8HzM No.874752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>874646 Please do not combine one vasoconstrictor with another
Matilda Fibbersit - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:44:52 EST ID:TJsCj0JT No.874757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it sounds like it would work but this is a bad idea. if youre really worried about swallowing the tab, wrap it in a larger piece of paper? maybe like a gum wrapper.
Walter Pindersodging - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 08:51:38 EST ID:IVOPXe7L No.874806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you have trouble keeping a piece of paper under your tongue for 20 minutes without swallowing it, maybe you shouldn't be doing mind-altering, potentially dangerous substances? Just a thought.
Charlotte Clennerwin - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 15:20:59 EST ID:zNcxK/qO No.874836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow what a bunch if fucking downers in this thread, chill out guys
OP that should be fine if youre used to the effects of tobacco
If you're not used to tobacco then that might not be the most fun start to a trip but I'd say go for it anyway

Morning glory by Matilda Clocklekodge - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 10:59:21 EST ID:OelK+9+x No.874749 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I had some morning glory seeds ferry morse 8 bags 16g total and I took them a couple days ago. I really want to trip again but I have no drugs. So I noticed that the leftover seed bags have residue in them with a strong taste and smell. Is a little residue from 8 bags psychoactive?
Eugene Brillerstadging - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 23:07:31 EST ID:oOxMbWvL No.874763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I doubt it'd be anything more than a really slight buzz, if that.

quetiapine interactions with LSD by Matilda Fibbersit - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:24:41 EST ID:TJsCj0JT No.874707 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hi there
i am googling as much as i can on this subject but the results are not what i am looking for, so please be gentle before flaming me. i will post whatever info i find as i go if i deem it relevant.
i have been taking seroquel xr (quetiapine fumarate) for the past 6 months, starting at 50mg and am now up to 300mg daily. i take it for a minor mood disorder, possibly caused by type ii bipolar disorder. my condition is not severe but i have not had much success in helping myself naturally, so i finally turned to prescription medicine a few months back.
nonetheless, i am looking forward to tripping on LSD again for the first time in nearly 2 years very soon, and i am wondering if i should stop taking seroquel for a while, and if so, how long? my only findings so far online between quetiapine and LSD seem to regard quetiapine as a possible way to "stop" a trip (i use the term stop loosely) such as one might do by taking a benzo. i am more interested in anybody who has been taking quetiapine long term, i.e. daily, and if there is a possibility that it may prevent me from having a trip all together if its been in my system for some time now, or if i may be putting myself in danger by taking LSD after being on quetiapine for a few months.

thank you for any info and insight on this topic, i am looking forward to having another great trip on L (hopefully) soon. i will put anything i find in the thread as i continue to google.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 21:54:32 EST ID:8IxgWiHt No.874711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Antipsychotics make it impossible to trip. I used to be on Abilify, and even that, which is low-tier antipsych made it impossible to get past ++. Like I would just feel something working, and my vision would change, but things never really got off the ground. Seroquel is strong by comparison, and 300mg is a relatively high dose. I doubt you'll feel much of anything; and even if you eat a whole strip you'll probably only get a light trip.
George Simmlestone - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:27:42 EST ID:365Hk3TQ No.874715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any idea how long I'd have to stop taking seroquel to be able to trip normally?
Matilda Fibbersit - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 16:42:41 EST ID:TJsCj0JT No.874756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did some research for my own question; it seems seroquel has a half life of 6 hours. within 24 to 30 hours the amount of seroquel in your system should pretty much be zero, this was stated for taking 100mg (i am guessing, one time). so for someone like me who has been taking a higher dose for months, it will probably be at least a week.

also, 300mg seroquel is not really a high dose. most people on seroquel are taking between 300mg-800mg. some people are given low doses (50mg-150mg) for lesser problems like sleep. but for someone taking it for mood related issues such as myself, 300mg is kind of like the starting point for a normal daily dose.

HPPD and still doing drugs by Ernest Samblebad - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 02:00:37 EST ID:HCGk1mlU No.874720 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>initially developing HPPD made me suicidal
>stopped drugs immediately, fearing it would get worse
>couldn't handle life without getting high anymore so started using again
>gotten really hardcore back into it again
>HPPD rapidly becoming more and more severe, but I dont even care anymore

I love this feeling of being able to let my life go to shit but still being able to find reason and pleasure and a will to live in developing myself as a person. I wanna live hard and die young. Let's go.
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Ernest Samblebad - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 02:11:22 EST ID:HCGk1mlU No.874722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Googled it. Wtf does this have to do with anything
Betsy Shakebury - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 02:59:49 EST ID:JN/SiNtN No.874724 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Its about people like you, who are lost and just want to have fun, but ultimately, dont realise that they are playing on the street with cards passing them by. you have HPPD now, or so you say, this will develop over time. Realise you're playing in the street. you should play it safe.

Go watch the movie, you'll like it, it'll probably play with your hallucinations too, depending on how bad you've got it, and plase dont tell me you're one of those "floaters" HPPD people.

This has been a novel about some people who
were punished entirely too much for what they did.
They wanted to have a good time, but they were like
children playing in the street; they could see one
after another of them being killed--run over, maimed,
destroyed--but they continued to play anyhow.
We really all were very happy for a while, sitting
around not toiling but just bullshitting and playing,
but it was for such a terrible brief time, and then
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Jenny Giblingchone - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 05:53:48 EST ID:oyGxjzTV No.874742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I second this advice. Also it'sjust a great book and a great movie.
We can't tell you what to do, OP. You're free.
But please think hard before goinv to the deep end.
David Wishfuck - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:00:07 EST ID:mQKs9Eqj No.874750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>initially developing HPPD made me suicidal

Okay, not offense dude but... what the fuck?.

I mean if some visual disturbances are enough to make you suicidal I'd hate to think how you're going to handle the gradual loss of eyesight, hair, sexual function and hearing and the development of various pains and aches as you get older.

You sound ill equipped to handle life, loss and impermanence and you should probably find a religion/faith/philosophy to help give you the tools to accept and embrace life, not hide from it in a self destructive drug haze.
Hedda Bettingnare - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:03:30 EST ID:YTc4ekIb No.874755 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I sincerely hope you find your way, friend

Religious debates only strong oppinions by Jarvis Dicklefuck - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 17:33:27 EST ID:cdYzdY7e No.874398 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Fuck wicca, fuck satanism, fuck satan and fuck disgusting demon cernunnos, praise Jesus thread!
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Bethoven's Sebastian Bach's from Neo-Bethlehems-Neo-Imressionism's Rave Scene !cPUZU5OGFs!!Bwteoy2D - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:21:04 EST ID:N+Gs23yE No.874671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't believe my folly? Wise to do so. ;^)

Lavey's Leviticus Leviathan Optimus Prime mecha on mescaline !cPUZU5OGFs!!EQHl65tx - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 23:46:59 EST ID:N+Gs23yE No.874672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This will be my final post...And by the way I'm not tripping, I have only seen the FNORDS.
Reuben Nuttingmeck - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:49:53 EST ID:GtKrZDTL No.874682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
been to the dark and back, just a bunch of self-suffering cowards, hail, man of the universe Jesus Christ
Augustus Bullyhood - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 09:30:58 EST ID:5tNmIWXr No.874748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any particular religion has more to do with the society that practices it than any truth of the universe. That so many disparate societies construct religion is what is important to realizing the ultimate truth.
Nigel Billybanks - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:40:30 EST ID:uJ7/tW4V No.874753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Most people don't even realize Jesus was north Korean

The horror..... by Nicholas Tootbanks - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:24:18 EST ID:jY3dP092 No.874537 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else like to watch surreal/scary stuff while tripping? I watched pic related, Apocalypse Now, and The Thing (80s version) and loved it. It really brings the horror up a notch.
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Ian Saffingstet - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 02:45:50 EST ID:AjC/Ecvi No.874596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can barely watch that shit sober.
I find the digital world episode the creepiest. Some seriously dark people created that series.
the flicker !FwnV7hV52I - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 05:51:13 EST ID:fn/+DtMJ No.874603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
David Lynch is one of the only men who makes films that are genuinely disturbing, but all things considered he is more /dis/ than /psy/. I could say much the same about Cronenberg. House (1977) drips with psychedelia and is one of the more pleasingly outlandish "horror" films I've seen, but is nowhere near being actually frightening.
Dr. Katz - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:15:05 EST ID:YtJghZ6V No.874631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
True, David Lynch is a pioneer. Lost Highway is a mindfuck though.

I second House. That movie is bizarre in so many ways, but not actually "scary."
Phoebe Nackleville - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 21:12:16 EST ID:jY3dP092 No.874637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should give it a chance tripping. There's a quote from Apocalypse Now that's something like "if horror isn't your friend, then it's an enemy to be feared." Even though I've had really terrible, existentially horrifying trips, I've learned a lot from them. I'm not scared of anything now
Wesley Crettinggold - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:44:46 EST ID:AjC/Ecvi No.874716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apocalypse Now is actually my favourite film. I consider your approach sometimes, but I'm not sure I want to overcome all fears in life - it could turn me into a monster.

Psychedelia and the Occult by John Gengerwid - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 00:26:26 EST ID:E1Shr1RR No.873865 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm fascinated with the occult in the same way a lot of young psychedelic users are with eastern religion and philosophy, that is to say I don't really think I believe in much of it but it's really damn interesting and a lot of the basic philosophical tenants I agree with and I enjoy reflecting on them. I associate the psychedelic experience very strongly with magic and the occult. I think of every drug as able to transport me to its own unique world and reveal hidden knowledge. I was just wondering if anyone else feels the same way. I see a lot of threads about eastern religion but nothing really about this kind of thing. To me at least it's adds a layer to the drug experience. Again I think it's just something fun to think about rather than actually real. I've found that since I started thinking of it this way I've entered more intense psychedelic states that involve fully external hallucinations and they all take on a sort of old school fantasy occult kind of theme. I do meditate on and off psychedelics but it's in a style that's more akin to western esotericism than any eastern religion.
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"Sabbatai Zvi" - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:41:26 EST ID:zrSeYeX0 No.874667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meme - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 22:44:11 EST ID:zrSeYeX0 No.874668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You are on the right path._. But don't let it get to your head.

[ [ ;^ ) ] ]
Nicholas Buzzfield - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 03:41:33 EST ID:VUppkb5t No.874675 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm Christian and read the Tarot regularly. It's a thing that just grew on me.

The fucked up thing is that the Tarot will fuck with you. I did a "Yes/No" spread like this.

Me: "Yes."
Card: "Yes."

Me: "No."
Card: "No."

Me: "Yes."
Card: "Yes."
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Esther Fungerdit - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 20:02:46 EST ID:97QlBc20 No.874706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i do the same but with flipping a coin
at times it feels like a separate entity playing tricks on me
sometimes i wonder if tarot and coin flipping and all games of chance lie in the realm of some trickster spirit or something
but i try not to put too much faith into these things
James Birrychitch - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 23:22:25 EST ID:oX4FboWa No.874714 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What are we? by Walter Bripperwater - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:16:09 EST ID:+A8iDHxR No.874367 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are we apart from our relations to other things?
For example, I have my preferences, memories, ideas, tastes, etc.
But when I clear my mind and cease thinking about specific things, there just seems to be nothing at the core. Alternatively, there is an awareness that's just an infinitesimal mote of the of universal omniscient consciousness.

Well what do you think?
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George Clengersturk - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:03:44 EST ID:OelK+9+x No.874613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We are manifestations of our posts on 420chan while manifesting such manifestations. With color you ask? Try the Bible then in colors. What are the Bible keys of colors? Write a book about it 666 times and you will see the folding relations of it. To manifest relations requires burning of weed. Why not burn the Bible and weed at the same time by using it as join paper after checking the paper for LSD? I bet Jesus put acid on some parts of the Bible you just gotta find it.
Simon Blunkinshaw - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 20:03:17 EST ID:97QlBc20 No.874636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What makes you think that there is a self? that you are something aside from your relations to other things. what makes you think there's anything more than that?
maybe you are just a tiny fraction of the universe at large, experiencing itself.
!GOACID/XyA - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 02:55:15 EST ID:EcR3NIiQ No.874641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We're language.
Beatrice Bollyhood - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:17:24 EST ID:yIW8wHeu No.874656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What are we apart from our relations to other things?
our brains were selected to map a narrow range of stimulus into a finite set of discrete objects. 'other things' are the result of human perception and imagination. remove that filter, and we become all things at once - or something equally incomprehensible.

the categorization of stimulus isn't limited to the external; the mind understands itself in terms of 'other things' as well. put more simply,
>You are the story your brain tells itself to explain its actions.
Reuben Nuttingmeck - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:55:43 EST ID:GtKrZDTL No.874683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
we are everything that we are

LSD and sleep by Esther Collerwell - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:28:05 EST ID:MR3lZ7Ck No.874569 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anybody ever took a tab right before sleep on purpose just to see what would happen? what the fuck would happen? crazy dreams? And i know lsd will keep you awake, but if you're able to fall asleep.. I'm very curious. Share your experiences please.
James Cettingpene - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:48:28 EST ID:JN/SiNtN No.874570 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You see dreams which you arent a part of. you experience dreams in their true form, not visual, but ideas, thoughts.
Martin Monkinmadge - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 09:11:08 EST ID:6uqNmL9N No.874577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have fallen asleep plenty of times during the peak. IMO its a huge waste to sleep on doses. If you have the self discipline to sleep on the way up in it can be interesting to wake up tripping.
Edwin Narryben - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 21:33:21 EST ID:TbqzDM8/ No.874665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm able to goto sleep on 400ug, after the peak that is..

I had a thing going where i would wake up early, drop, go back to sleep and let it wake me up. Was nice waking up to phase 2. After a few times, its really not that spectacular.
Hugh Bummlechud - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 02:52:13 EST ID:BM6t99/N No.874674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha, what an interesting idea. Too bad it takes me over an hour to fall asleep so I would probably be coming up before I even drifted off.
Phyllis Borrycocke - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 04:15:25 EST ID:IMigT9gK No.874676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I once took 2cb and fell asleep right after taking them
I woke up fullon tripping, and realized i had to take a train

8/10 interesting experience

Any positives of NBOMe's by Isabella Clevingchene - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:08:24 EST ID:rLQWRJbt No.874513 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there any reason to take the NBOMe series over classical psychedelics, the last time i took some thinking it was acid i ended up breaking my hand, getting tackled by a cop and almost going into cardiac arrest. Any reason i should seek out NBOMe and try it again?
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!GOACID/XyA - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 02:54:37 EST ID:EcR3NIiQ No.874640 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>I have some serious doubts about NBOME's killing people singlehandedly.

>has serious doubts about objectively verified medical fact

Jarvis Grimford - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 09:19:49 EST ID:zuH6VZYC No.874649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, to be fair, thesecasesfeature substance mixing and overdoses (nbomes still suck though)
!GOACID/XyA - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:14:18 EST ID:EcR3NIiQ No.874652 Ignore Report Quick Reply

People have died off of 500ug iirc. Some teenager. I'm too lazy to find it, but just so you know. It's almost certainly on Erowid but I think in the 25c vault, not the 25i one.
Dr. Katz - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 13:40:22 EST ID:YtJghZ6V No.874654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>NBOMes are deadly due to a relatively low active dosage to potentially lethal dosage
>NBOMes are not particularly safe and have been rightfully disproportionately shit on for their safety profile.
Yes, NBOMes are dangerous, but they most likely won't kill you or cause an allergic reaction. I'm more worried about the after-effects and following anxiety/PTSD that follows the abuse. A lot of my old friends abused the shit out of NBOMes and haven't quite been the same since 4-5+ years ago after quitting.
I don't see any redeeming qualities of the drugs. Yeah, they're cheap. Yup, there's a lot of visual eye-candy going on. That's about it. You're paying next to nothing for a harmful psychedelic(s) that primarily boast having heavy visuals.
Based on safety, years of usage, easier dosage ranges, wider ranges of effects, and a plethora of other reasons... the classical psychedelics and 2Cs are superior to NBOMes.
Ωµæ§†♪α¡ⁿ !QSTRNGiKc6 - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:45:23 EST ID:41SIB0q/ No.874663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had some of the greatest bonding experiences with my friends on nbome. Anyone that says there is nothing positive or any redeeming factor at all is in some way biased.

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