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Friend w/ Schizophrenia cautiously wants to try shrooms by Augustus Hevingmen - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:09:55 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.884975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have done shrooms I have done acid. We’re both aware people with mental problems like Schizophrenia shouldnt experiment with mushrooms but I’m curious, is there a 100% chance it ends badly for them or could I trip w/ this friend and possibly guide the trip in a positive direction?
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awe !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:52:33 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.884976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975
you cannot guide his trip in a positive direction, you can only suggest it, but tripping with schizophrenia is definitely something a lot of people have attempted with success. Not to say it's advisable in your friend's case, but it has been done many times with great success. Start with no more than 2 grams.
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Augustus Hevingmen - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:33:58 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.884997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884976
Fair enough. Does it make a difference that it’s a she? Have girls been known to have bad trips more than guys or anything in the long run?
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awe !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:01:46 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.885001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884997
yeah it makes a difference, you should get high together and fuck.
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Archie Mivingmack - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:27:55 EST ID:tG9JfdSw No.885010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Comment>>884975
Yeah i think you should lower the dose to 1.5g or even less than 1g since usually females are lighter than males and the dosage varies with weight. Also I have heard (so don't really know if it's real o or not) that girls might be more affected by psychedelics than man so lowering the dose is always good.
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Lydia Dreddlewell - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:37:43 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884976
Pretty much. And do consider that while schizoprenic people can have fun normal trips, if they keep tripping, eventually they will one day run into that wall. The more trips, the more chances... eventually the chance for that fucking bad trip to end all bad trips will become 0,99999999999999999999999999999999999 and then you're no longer tripsitting but running after a naked guy screaming obscenities about his family covered in blood because he just jumped out of the living room window trying to get him to calm down at 5 in the morning while the whole neighbourhood wakes up.

(Shit turned out all right, cops took him to the hospital, and his dad whom he hadn't seen in 10 years came to visit, and they talked through 10 years of baggage. The guy did quit all hallucinogens after that trip though.)
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William Dobberspear - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:34:28 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.885024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885001
Thats the plan, she’s down, just doesnt wanna make herself go perma-schizo
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mr Schizo Papadopoulus - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 03:15:12 EST ID:hm3rlSt6 No.885652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975

Man I had a DR episode from cannabis, and tripping isn't exactly lighter. Take care of your friends.
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Emma Worthingdock - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 03:34:24 EST ID:vxVDDLeO No.885653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885652
Cannabis can't be compared to psychedelics.
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Isabella Chillypick - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 13:52:07 EST ID:Bf8aAvO3 No.885684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885024
Temporary loss of reality is probable
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Hannah Snodhood - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:06:27 EST ID:sgFOiFwW No.885685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975
How did it go? I just recently got a batch of shrooms and now im not super sure if i really want to give em a go.
I had a schizo episode about 6 years ago and feel pretty chill nowadays. No magical thinking and i never really had problems with weed either.

I really dont wanna throw these out but will i even notice anything at a lower concentration? The seller that my friend got the shrooms from said that i should multiple grams as i would otherwise not get my moneys worth and not to worry about the weight since they arent dried. (is that true? he said i should take 5g+5g an hour later. sounds like a lot to me)

From what i remember he has a way higher tolerance and i believe hes full of shit. Probably gonna ease into it even at the chance of "not getting my moneys worth". /blogpost
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Phineas Firrywill - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 00:43:38 EST ID:W1Knd0bD No.885705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885685
Not until later this year am I giving this friend mushies, idk yet
But in your case I would take 1.5 gs. Then wait about 40 mins, and take another 2Gs.
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Phyllis Seshwill - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:43:55 EST ID:1Q/pl032 No.885794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a schizophrenic friend who had a major freak out just from a little hit of weed. I really don't think that's a great idea
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Reuben Bloshway - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:52:28 EST ID:lbQu/kY8 No.885819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885794
My schizo blazes pot weekly if not daily
No freakouts there
Just worries about shrooms because its a psychedelic and her psyche is fragile due to the schizophrenia.
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George Shakefield - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:13:01 EST ID:Rr3za0So No.885996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My friend is diagnosed autistic and schizophrenic. He's always been off-kilter, but taking LSD once made him more creative but also permanently made him feel more despair. So take that as you will. Your friend might not be as "bad" as my friend though. He makes noise/drone music and draws crazy art inspired by Manic Street Preachers and dark surreal Russian painters. Cool guy tho
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Barnaby Pammledetch - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:36:18 EST ID:90ZkNPKV No.886164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885996
link to any of his stuff?
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Edward Honeywill - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 01:15:00 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885012
Man I'm thinking about quitting hallucinogens just because of the thought I might contract schizophrenia. Which might just be an obsession with the idea I might contract schizophrenia but that's probably not very healthy either.
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Ian Clabbleseck - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 04:06:33 EST ID:H3cu11wv No.886231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886230
My friend is already diagnosed schizo without psychedelic.
Has had episodes and heard voices and everything and people always warn that psychs can make mental illnesses worse, im not saying you will become schizo from using by default. Sure, you can go insane, but, ya know.
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Edward Honeywill - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:34:20 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886231
That's the worry, I'm worried that I might be exhibiting the early signs of schizo undiagnosed and all it takes is that one wrong acid trip, going a little too far with DMT, or hell, even staying up a day later than I should with amphetamines before I go full blast crazy mode.
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Matilda Saffingdire - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:40:34 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.886255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886230
Dude, that's the dumbest reason ever.

You don't contract schizophrenia from doing psychedelics. What happens is that schizophrenic people that don't know they're schizophrenic (or in denial of their mental illness) take hallucinogens and end up having a psychotic break.
They always were schizophrenic, hallucinogens just brought it to the surface.
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Henry Bickletare - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:13:28 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886255
See
>>886253
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Alice Hicklebitch - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:41:39 EST ID:sOndFEs3 No.886257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886253
from my understanding, psychedelics wont always give you full blast crazy mode if there is a potential for schizophrenia in that person. There can be troubling times when a person like that is having a psychedlic experience that the average user just doesnt understand. For example, forgetting your own identity will experiencing ego loss. The more irresponsible and less mature the concerned friend are, the worst the perspective of the entire situation is.

With all that being said, my current understanding and opinion is that psychedelics will cause atrophy of certain schizoid symptoms, and continueed use is required to go full blast crazy mode. To be clear, for some one who has experience onset symtoms but nowhere near full-bodied persistant symptoms , they can expect to experience more schizoid symptoms while still retaining their identity. Whether a panic attack will come on is highly dependant on the setting, and the beliefs or psychology of the person, along with their natural ability to deal with anxiety.
To go back to the atrophy term, the way psychedlics affect mental health is analogues to atrophy in muscle building. You don't expect to grow the muscles in one session, although you may work them out. You don't experience the full definition of those muscles along with their strength until they are continually give means to atrophy.
So it is with schizoid symptoms, you have to practice them continually to really bring them up to a meaningful impact.
The two main reasons why onset symptoms keep developing and get out of hand, are because there is a lack of general information accessible to people when they need it the most, and schizoid symptoms cause a person to lose their cognitive awareness relating to the schizoid symptoms, and can't circumvent their surrounding and inner mental processe before they atrophy into a large and cosistent function of their being. THe symptoms have a potential to play off and excerbate each other beyond the persons will or awareness from that point on in some cases.
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Rebecca Gunningkedge - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:45:08 EST ID:0/Zjz76f No.886258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886253
chances are its just obsession/neurosis


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