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Friend w/ Schizophrenia cautiously wants to try shrooms by Augustus Hevingmen - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:09:55 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.884975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have done shrooms I have done acid. We’re both aware people with mental problems like Schizophrenia shouldnt experiment with mushrooms but I’m curious, is there a 100% chance it ends badly for them or could I trip w/ this friend and possibly guide the trip in a positive direction?
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awe !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:52:33 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.884976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975
you cannot guide his trip in a positive direction, you can only suggest it, but tripping with schizophrenia is definitely something a lot of people have attempted with success. Not to say it's advisable in your friend's case, but it has been done many times with great success. Start with no more than 2 grams.
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Augustus Hevingmen - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 15:33:58 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.884997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884976
Fair enough. Does it make a difference that it’s a she? Have girls been known to have bad trips more than guys or anything in the long run?
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awe !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 17:01:46 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.885001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884997
yeah it makes a difference, you should get high together and fuck.
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Archie Mivingmack - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:27:55 EST ID:tG9JfdSw No.885010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Comment>>884975
Yeah i think you should lower the dose to 1.5g or even less than 1g since usually females are lighter than males and the dosage varies with weight. Also I have heard (so don't really know if it's real o or not) that girls might be more affected by psychedelics than man so lowering the dose is always good.
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Lydia Dreddlewell - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 20:37:43 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884976
Pretty much. And do consider that while schizoprenic people can have fun normal trips, if they keep tripping, eventually they will one day run into that wall. The more trips, the more chances... eventually the chance for that fucking bad trip to end all bad trips will become 0,99999999999999999999999999999999999 and then you're no longer tripsitting but running after a naked guy screaming obscenities about his family covered in blood because he just jumped out of the living room window trying to get him to calm down at 5 in the morning while the whole neighbourhood wakes up.

(Shit turned out all right, cops took him to the hospital, and his dad whom he hadn't seen in 10 years came to visit, and they talked through 10 years of baggage. The guy did quit all hallucinogens after that trip though.)
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William Dobberspear - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 08:34:28 EST ID:dHNvjBjq No.885024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885001
Thats the plan, she’s down, just doesnt wanna make herself go perma-schizo
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mr Schizo Papadopoulus - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 03:15:12 EST ID:hm3rlSt6 No.885652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975

Man I had a DR episode from cannabis, and tripping isn't exactly lighter. Take care of your friends.
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Emma Worthingdock - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 03:34:24 EST ID:vxVDDLeO No.885653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885652
Cannabis can't be compared to psychedelics.
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Isabella Chillypick - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 13:52:07 EST ID:Bf8aAvO3 No.885684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885024
Temporary loss of reality is probable
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Hannah Snodhood - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:06:27 EST ID:sgFOiFwW No.885685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975
How did it go? I just recently got a batch of shrooms and now im not super sure if i really want to give em a go.
I had a schizo episode about 6 years ago and feel pretty chill nowadays. No magical thinking and i never really had problems with weed either.

I really dont wanna throw these out but will i even notice anything at a lower concentration? The seller that my friend got the shrooms from said that i should multiple grams as i would otherwise not get my moneys worth and not to worry about the weight since they arent dried. (is that true? he said i should take 5g+5g an hour later. sounds like a lot to me)

From what i remember he has a way higher tolerance and i believe hes full of shit. Probably gonna ease into it even at the chance of "not getting my moneys worth". /blogpost
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Phineas Firrywill - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 00:43:38 EST ID:W1Knd0bD No.885705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885685
Not until later this year am I giving this friend mushies, idk yet
But in your case I would take 1.5 gs. Then wait about 40 mins, and take another 2Gs.
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Phyllis Seshwill - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:43:55 EST ID:1Q/pl032 No.885794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a schizophrenic friend who had a major freak out just from a little hit of weed. I really don't think that's a great idea
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Reuben Bloshway - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:52:28 EST ID:lbQu/kY8 No.885819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885794
My schizo blazes pot weekly if not daily
No freakouts there
Just worries about shrooms because its a psychedelic and her psyche is fragile due to the schizophrenia.
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George Shakefield - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 19:13:01 EST ID:Rr3za0So No.885996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My friend is diagnosed autistic and schizophrenic. He's always been off-kilter, but taking LSD once made him more creative but also permanently made him feel more despair. So take that as you will. Your friend might not be as "bad" as my friend though. He makes noise/drone music and draws crazy art inspired by Manic Street Preachers and dark surreal Russian painters. Cool guy tho
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Barnaby Pammledetch - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 23:36:18 EST ID:90ZkNPKV No.886164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885996
link to any of his stuff?
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Edward Honeywill - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 01:15:00 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885012
Man I'm thinking about quitting hallucinogens just because of the thought I might contract schizophrenia. Which might just be an obsession with the idea I might contract schizophrenia but that's probably not very healthy either.
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Ian Clabbleseck - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 04:06:33 EST ID:H3cu11wv No.886231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886230
My friend is already diagnosed schizo without psychedelic.
Has had episodes and heard voices and everything and people always warn that psychs can make mental illnesses worse, im not saying you will become schizo from using by default. Sure, you can go insane, but, ya know.
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Edward Honeywill - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 18:34:20 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886231
That's the worry, I'm worried that I might be exhibiting the early signs of schizo undiagnosed and all it takes is that one wrong acid trip, going a little too far with DMT, or hell, even staying up a day later than I should with amphetamines before I go full blast crazy mode.
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Matilda Saffingdire - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:40:34 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.886255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886230
Dude, that's the dumbest reason ever.

You don't contract schizophrenia from doing psychedelics. What happens is that schizophrenic people that don't know they're schizophrenic (or in denial of their mental illness) take hallucinogens and end up having a psychotic break.
They always were schizophrenic, hallucinogens just brought it to the surface.
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Henry Bickletare - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 20:13:28 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886255
See
>>886253
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Alice Hicklebitch - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:41:39 EST ID:sOndFEs3 No.886257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886253
from my understanding, psychedelics wont always give you full blast crazy mode if there is a potential for schizophrenia in that person. There can be troubling times when a person like that is having a psychedlic experience that the average user just doesnt understand. For example, forgetting your own identity will experiencing ego loss. The more irresponsible and less mature the concerned friend are, the worst the perspective of the entire situation is.

With all that being said, my current understanding and opinion is that psychedelics will cause atrophy of certain schizoid symptoms, and continueed use is required to go full blast crazy mode. To be clear, for some one who has experience onset symtoms but nowhere near full-bodied persistant symptoms , they can expect to experience more schizoid symptoms while still retaining their identity. Whether a panic attack will come on is highly dependant on the setting, and the beliefs or psychology of the person, along with their natural ability to deal with anxiety.
To go back to the atrophy term, the way psychedlics affect mental health is analogues to atrophy in muscle building. You don't expect to grow the muscles in one session, although you may work them out. You don't experience the full definition of those muscles along with their strength until they are continually give means to atrophy.
So it is with schizoid symptoms, you have to practice them continually to really bring them up to a meaningful impact.
The two main reasons why onset symptoms keep developing and get out of hand, are because there is a lack of general information accessible to people when they need it the most, and schizoid symptoms cause a person to lose their cognitive awareness relating to the schizoid symptoms, and can't circumvent their surrounding and inner mental processe before they atrophy into a large and cosistent function of their being. THe symptoms have a potential to play off and excerbate each other beyond the persons will or awareness from that point on in some cases.
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Rebecca Gunningkedge - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 00:45:08 EST ID:0/Zjz76f No.886258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886253
chances are its just obsession/neurosis
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Walter Giggleville - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 02:51:25 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886257
I don't know man. Last night I went on some 4-HO-MET. And I never really had bad trips before or ever was in a place where I thought what I was seeing was real, but I started losing it and getting really anxious. And I think my autistic anxious side was being brought out on the drug where my tripping self was worried my sober self was losing its mind. It took a while for the drug to wear off and everything went back.

Looking back on my family history my Dad was autistic (which I was mostly autistic and I was diagnosed with) but my mother was very likely schizophrenic, and undiagnosed. And there was just a lot of back and forth with myself the whole trip where it was like my autistic anxious side that I had repressed due to the anxiety was getting worried about my sober self possibly being schizo, and just being a shitty person in general when sober.
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Lydia Bliffingville - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 19:25:51 EST ID:XKbR2RCP No.886327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886291
SO a psych would bring out more of the schizoid sides of your psyche but your autistic tendencies cause you to either experience joy or incontent with the schizoid perspective (or attributes).
Did the drug strengthen your autistic side, or did it get worked up over the new schizoid symptoms the drug produced?
Again just my opinion but is psychosis really the combination of emerging schizoid tendencies and symptoms becoming too much for your autustic self to cope and handle with resulting in discordent autism with schizoid symptoms piled on and no way to exxpress what is happening or what you are becoming and perceiving in relation to the schizoid symptoms and tendencies?
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George Droddleseg - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 23:55:44 EST ID:DimqzSxe No.886331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886327
It was like my autistic side was getting mad at myself for being stuck in a rut and terrified that I would lose my mind and there would be no going back.
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Emma Deffingmutch - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 01:46:48 EST ID:WYhLucWK No.886333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Please, please, please, please, PLEASE

DO NOT GIVE YOUR MENTALLY ILL FRIEND DRUGS

PLEASE
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Cornelius Ginderford - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:43:33 EST ID:CLQrfjz3 No.886357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886333
>there are people that actually need to be told this
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Nicholas Cenninghot - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 20:57:46 EST ID:geH330jY No.886358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886357
>and they post here, just like you
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Shit Bimmerwot - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 21:03:41 EST ID:XKbR2RCP No.886359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886331
and it was basically like, this is so obvious that a rut is going to give you trouble why are you still in that rut lol, but it was all because of drugs.

As terrifying as that is , its all just rain on your back once you blast through to hyperwatchamacall it...
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Phyllis Mallernot - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 02:14:07 EST ID:i3KPsPsW No.886364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Op tell your friend to ask the voices what she has to do to get them to go away. Shrooms are a life changer for the good. It isn't going to make things any worse.
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Doris Pickforth - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:39:36 EST ID:ljDBm5PI No.886381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>884975
People with schizophrenia should under no circumstances take hallucinogens. End of story
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Doris Pickforth - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 17:49:38 EST ID:ljDBm5PI No.886382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886364
>shrooms are a life changer for the good
Not necessarily...

>things cant get any worse
Absolutley wrong.
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Nell Panderbury - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 05:13:11 EST ID:XNDUIsJi No.886391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886381

Wrong, wrong, wrong...

OP I demand that you give your friend as many mind altering drugs as you can as fast as you can; don't stop for any reason.
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Edwin Winnerkog - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 01:21:05 EST ID:9Rgt8mcJ No.886535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> update: my schizo friend recently started being full schizo as of this week, probably not going to try this shrooms thing with her after seeing this for my first time unless she goes back to normal
Anybody know how to tell if someone’s havimg delusions vs actually getting messages from the universe about their life? Pretty sure she lost it this week
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Basil Dubberson - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 05:59:56 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.886542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886535
Protip, the universe doesn't send messages. Besides, if it did, it should just send messages to Stephen Hawking and not some random dumbo. If the universe really just sends messages to random wankers, I want a new universe because this one is retarded.
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Fuck Dillerworth - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:23:30 EST ID:7OBsp/5q No.886545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886535
Not being crazy? That's how I usually tell if the messages the universe is sending me about my life are real or delusion
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Rebecca Sellyfork - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:35:20 EST ID:IYWM81om No.886547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886542

right, a message, south korea is racist, i saw it from a point of view.
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Oliver Wungercocke - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:40:09 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886547
>i saw it from a point of view
that makes it ever so slightly more legitimate.
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Cornelius Pundlefoot - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 06:59:52 EST ID:SuHL/IVm No.886550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886535
Well, It sure would likely suck for the person, I guess, the uncertainty. Not knowing one-self at times. Sometimes a medication adjustment could help. Psychiatrists are generally, take these and that is that. See you in, one month.

I think it would be fine if she is well grounded. Feeling Ok. Just be casual. Some people freak out others, like they are almost a second away from freaking. Which does what, makes people feel insecure. So take it in stride. Sure you know this.

Know though, it is possible to be charged with a crime, most unlikely but has happened. In most of these, and some of there parts of the state if somebody does not fair too well with drugs. So unwritten law, I got whatever from some person I don't know.

Long story but were tripping and I said, do not mention dose to the cops. The most likely candidate, was huh. I said, do not say we took anything, we found beers at the park.

So it basically worked, the cops queried why all of our eyes were looking dilated. Or we all looked high. Oh causally we found some beers at the park. He (cop) said that is kinda reckless don't you think, it's like eating a candy bar you found on the ground. We a couple of us started laughing. Cause what was next was, there was nothing wrong with it. Had to add-lib,, a police car was driving through the park and they ran and let it. They could have confirmed that there was or was not a cop driving trough the park. But regardless, missing a chance to do mushrooms is something that happens every day. So no big deal.
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Henry Blythehood - Tue, 06 Mar 2018 21:28:24 EST ID:GBxEPf2b No.886582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886550
what does anything in this post even mean
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Archie Seddlechotch - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 05:52:45 EST ID:kcQufGDA No.886591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>886582
youll learn one day, young padawan


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