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almost no visuals on psychedelics by Walter Sallylidge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 05:52:48 EST ID:AY5gmDGM No.885708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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hey /psy/ maybe you can help me out with this

I have tried mushrooms 5 times now started with 1 gram, 2.5g, and 3 3.5g trips, I also tried lemon teking 2 times. While they were all very enjoyable and introspective there were almost no visuals and no strong visuals. I did see waving or melting walls, enhanced color and sound but nothing crazy.

I have also tried lsd 5 times now, starting from 100ug, 150ug, 300ug, 175ug and 3 lines of coke, and my last trip was over 500ug just a couple days ago. Again, while it wasn't the same as mushrooms I only got slight visuals on all the trips except the time i snorted coke as well.

It confuses me that my 175ug and coke experience would be the most visual when that was the only trip I didn't wait 2 weeks to a month before tripping again, it was only 3 or 4 days after the 300ug trip

also I usually smoke some weed or dabs during trips but that doesn't seem to help either
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Polly Saggletin - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 06:04:47 EST ID:Td/6TBQQ No.885709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe everyone only hallucinates because they're told to and you just don't give a fuck. Check Jan Irvine out, he believes what I've just said. McKenna was a puppet.
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Walter Sallylidge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 06:40:56 EST ID:AY5gmDGM No.885710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885709

Are you saying you don't get very many visuals as well?

>Maybe everyone only hallucinates because they're told to and you just don't give a fuck.
I'm sorry but I don't buy this. I am currently checking out Jan Irvin though, maybe you could point me in the direction of some specific information you are referring to. Not sure about the McKenna reference either, but I have listened to a few of his talks before.
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Barnaby Wottingshit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 06:43:57 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708

Are you on any other meds like prescribed to you?

Other than that, ive heard a very few number of people dont hallucinate, maybe you're one of them, do you atleast get the altered thinking?

>>885709
How do you know Jan Irvin isnt a puppet?
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Clara Pallyworth - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:05:28 EST ID:8XMQFqmk No.885712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708
I dont realy get visuals either, try closing your eyes and being in a darker enviroment
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Walter Sallylidge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:10:53 EST ID:AY5gmDGM No.885713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885711
I'm not on any prescribed medication but I do smoke weed usually daily. I also forgot to say I always trip on an empty stomach aswell.

I do get altered head space. Mushrooms put me in thought loops and extreme time dilation, while acid felt like I could conceptualize ideas much clearer. I even read a book once when on acid and I was able imagine the characters and landscape to an amazing degree but when I closed my eyes there wouldn't even be CEVs


I was also wondering if maybe the interaction of coke with lsd was hitting the same receptors in the brain causing stronger visuals? The last picture I posted says that combo requires caution, but it also says the same for weed so I dunno
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Polly Saggletin - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:24:42 EST ID:Td/6TBQQ No.885714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885711
Because he promotes critical thinking and identifying logical fallacies not the limitation of male birth because the mushroom told him and other random unfathomable bullshit. I don't actually really believe what I said before as an absolute but I have noticed the most skeptical of my friends experience psychedelics in a profoundly different way than the most suggestible. It sucks because I'm a suggestible person myself, but at least I identified this flaw and have learned a little bit about critical thinking to armor myself against the brainwashers and the ideologues.
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Esther Gillyhall - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:33:06 EST ID:c6WpDnDx No.885715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885708

Do you think visually? Does you make sense of your experiences visually? Like, just expecting visuals out of nowhere doesn't make sense, it's a way of processing information. In this way visuals are not hallucinations, they're just thinking, and taking a step back to observe without interference, these processes tend to take on extremities, and multiply in the loops and spirals, and from this stems the mis-conception of "just seeing random crazy shit everywhere," as images are coded and seeing a chaotic, random life, you can be easily led astray. In my experience first comes the idea, a solid foundation, and anything visual is built upon that, unless simply from stored memory, or some underlying blueprint. Try exploring ideas, then visuals might form from that. Abstract ideas often force you to use existing visual reference to comprehend, and new images can be formed.
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Hamilton Buffingmit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:38:38 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some rare people have no visuals. I assume you have some unknown brain anomaly.
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Esther Gillyhall - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:41:15 EST ID:c6WpDnDx No.885718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885713

>I even read a book once when on acid and I was able imagine the characters and landscape to an amazing degree but when I closed my eyes there wouldn't even be CEVs

Well that's it then maybe, when reading a book you have to translate what you're reading visually. Otherwise?
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Polly Saggletin - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:43:03 EST ID:Td/6TBQQ No.885719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885710
Actually I'm gonna link you this instead, which allegedly discredits Jan Irvin.
This doesn't discredit everything that Jan Irvin is made, and I think his "psychedelic - what's in the name" article particularly interesting, and it is what I considered when I replied originally.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGimi5WnbmY
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Esther Gillyhall - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:43:38 EST ID:c6WpDnDx No.885720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885716

No delta brainwave.

Common side effect of a grandfather paradox.

OP is there something you're not telling us?
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Barnaby Wottingshit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:54:22 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885714

I seriously feel like i could make a career off of people such as yourself, because as you said, you are suggestible. So Jan Irvin is really no better you are just a suggestible person and will agree with him if it sounds like hes making sense, which is the exact same thing McKenna does. Maybe i should have thrown in some more key and buzz words in this post to make it seem more credible.
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Polly Saggletin - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 07:59:43 EST ID:Td/6TBQQ No.885722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885721
I don't think that's a fair correlation to make, based on my original post. Not absolutely but at least in the regard that I mentioned in my original post in that Jan at least has an article on how to point out logical fallacies which is based on basic philosophy, McKenna just says random shit and then says 'coz the mushroom told me dooood'.
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Walter Sallylidge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:09:03 EST ID:AY5gmDGM No.885723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885715
>In this way visuals are not hallucinations, they're just thinking, and taking a step back to observe without interference, these processes tend to take on extremities, and multiply in the loops and spirals, and from this stems the mis-conception of "just seeing random crazy shit everywhere,"

I really like this, next trip I'll keep this in mind. Maybe in complete darkness? I usually leave at least a dim light on for visual stimuli.

>>885719
I'll check this out, was listening to Jan on the Joe Rogan podcast.

>>885720
Clearly joking but I looked up what this meant anyways and I don't think it's related since delta waves happen when you're unconscious. i do have depression, anxiety, ocd, and insomnia which are disorders frequently associated with disrupted delta-wave activity. Though I feel that I should add since taking psycs I have felt like I can understand the reasoning behind my behavior in a positive way.
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Barnaby Wottingshit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:09:58 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885722

Thats just what Jan Irvin has told you because thats his career.

Where is this critical thinking you were talking about before? Surely you can see that you're being taken for a ride. i mean McKenna really isnt better and its not so much because "xD the mushroom told me so" because that was very little of McKennas schtick, but because alot of his ideas are now decades old, its easy to see that but Jan Irvin is doing the exact same thing except in the contemporary space.

Im sorry to shit on your guy and all im sure hes a great listen and please continue your patronage, if its what you enjoy its what you enjoy aslong as you keep in mind that much like mckenna its just entertainment, something to keep your mind off of other things.
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Archie Bellerspear - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:15:32 EST ID:NU5Ph7lR No.885726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708 Your lsd isn't strong or you arent waiting long enough to take them I felt like you till i found real lsd and had a reset tolerance min 2 weeks no psychedelic if its the same then something is wrong with your brain or serotonin receptors . ?Good luck
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Hamilton Buffingmit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 10:50:49 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I just looked up this Jan Irvin guy... is he a complete fucking retarded tool? Redpill shit, conspiracies, eugenics, this guy is a fucking mongoloid wanker. He makes Timothy Leary look like the sharpest knife in the kitchen.
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Esther Gillyhall - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 11:12:30 EST ID:c6WpDnDx No.885731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885730

I haven't heard of this Jan Irvin guy at all until this thread. What's he all about? Is he another one of these psychedelic gurus with a catchphrase who gets printed on t-shirts with fractal patterns coming out of his head?
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Esther Gillyhall - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 11:14:50 EST ID:c6WpDnDx No.885732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885730

Oop, never mind, one quick google search and he instantly loses all credibility.
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Hamilton Buffingmit - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:30:22 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885731
He's just some alt-right neonazi fuck that eats mushrooms I guess.
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Basil Blezzlestick - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 18:36:52 EST ID:Als79N8d No.885753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708
>most visual when that was the only trip I didn't wait 2 weeks to a month before tripping again,
>it was only 3 or 4 days after the 300ug trip

Coke is not a good mix with acid, nor speed. The dose was possibly at 175 mics. But in reality good acid 65 mics is a fair dose. If one got good quality 100 mic doses and took 5 one should be waay tripping if they aren't doing it consistently.

Reality is, you can trip ever 3 days for every three days and get about as much of a trip as waiting 5 days. If the acid is pretty good.
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Fanny Cuggledock - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 01:22:27 EST ID:Lx6Oe64q No.885762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885730
Feel free to actually offer something of intelligence then, Hamilton.
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Ernest Hamblechack - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:36:26 EST ID:NWlHXCX5 No.885805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885730
I think Terrence McKenna would be a better batshit contrast. Leary for the most part did legitimate scientific work. But yeah Jan Irvin takes the cake in terms of stupidity.
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Alice Dozzlewill - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 17:55:56 EST ID:vO7BXNOW No.885806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885723

The part about visuals being the act of thinking doesn't really make sense. Your visuals are from wanked up signals being sent to wanked up locations. An example is how it's common to see faces where there are none. This is because your brain is improperly filtering information. In humans there's a part of the optical cortex specifically for facial recognition. That part is going haywire causing you to hallucinate face-like objects as actual faces.

I know some people just don't get visuals. Not sure why that is.
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Cornelius Seshhood - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 22:12:14 EST ID:eL/M/EXG No.885807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885806
they could however influence it, sure, I have some evidence of this, ive linked this video a few times here and it explains exactly how visuals on psychedelics are created.

https://youtu.be/kvalFfavNpU
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Cornelius Seshhood - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 22:17:32 EST ID:eL/M/EXG No.885808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885753
>coke is not a good mix with acid, nor speed
>my drugs are better than yours
speak for yourself dude, there is very little documentation on these but ive looked into as many anecdotal reports as i can, the general consensus is stimulants greatly enhance the visuals and trip, everyonr has a different reaction, you cant objectively say one is better than the other because everyone is seeking different results, personally i think itd be great, because you would remember so much more of the experience by being much more lucid, there would be a lot of benefits, depending on the right person, to mix /stim/ with /psy/
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Albert Shakestock - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:08:56 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885808
Pretty sure cocaine hinders psychedelic drugs, cocaine is very different from caffeine, amphetamine, methamphetamine and MDMA.
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Albert Nettingsudge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:32:21 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885821
elaborate plx
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Albert Nettingsudge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 04:41:21 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885807
>explains exactly how visuals on psychedelics are created.
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Hugh Mavingsog - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 05:12:06 EST ID:iF+G6NS1 No.885826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885806

Wrong, wrong wrong..

It's basically like going to a model railway exhibition. You buy your ticket, you go to wherever it's being hosted, you get your ticked stamped, you go in, and suddenly you're wandering around looking at the different tables with model railways on them, except the exhibition is being monitored by flying cameras so you can see it from different angles, much like Guernica. When this is finished, the footage is sent to a sattelite in space where it is all put together to form a complete image and sent into the sun to be sent back down to Earth as life-sustaining light, and et voila, you're on a beautiful stretch of beach and the sun is setting.
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Barnaby Clissledale - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 07:16:39 EST ID:AY5gmDGM No.885827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885808
I was wondering the same thing about /stims/ any other accounts, even anecdotal would be helpful.

>>885821
What about people with ADD or ADHD? Do you think certain people with different brain chemistry could benefit from the stim combo?
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Martha Dunnerhog - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 07:41:07 EST ID:v/mGMdFW No.885829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885807
Interesting video, but it merely gives a general idea of how visuals work, it's nowhere near an exact explanation. If you want a better explanation from a study that focuses solely on visuals, then read this famous paper.

http://www.math.utah.edu/~bresslof/publications/01-1.pdf
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Albert Nettingsudge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:35:08 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885829
when i first tripped on acid which was a highish dose of 250ug i was very intrigued by the visuals and wondered how they work(mostly just mechanics not necessarily the neurological explanation) and researched the fuck out of this for the next few days and weeks and basically what I gathered from it is that we have very little clue and the best bet to understand it is to take high but still lucid doses and try to analyze it through your experience, but then I heard music and started thinking about the oh so relevant philosophical conundrums and realized there are way more interesting things to do while tripping. Someone will put the pieces together at some point, but we probably need much better understanding in many fields before we can easily comprehend the mechanics of the visual fractal pattern grid we see overlaying our visual field while on psys. It is amazing. It's actually always present just zoomed out right now. But you zoom in and the magic happens.
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Albert Nettingsudge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:40:09 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885833
I think the biggest insight into it is maybe google deepmind images, because they clearly have resemblance and we understand how they are generated to some extent. Most info on this is just descriptions of phenomena, but no coherent integration with other known phenomena in regards to how it works. Neurological mechanisms are of course helpful, but still quite disconnected from the experiential side of it.
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Barnaby Clibberstock - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 11:42:42 EST ID:izM3TLET No.885844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708
Take a bunch of AL-LAD or 2-CB. If you still don't see anything, you're just one of those rare people who doesn't get visuals
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Beatrice Gallerkodge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 14:25:11 EST ID:Z+rVPrQJ No.885856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dammit ya'll mckenna was the FIRST non-native persyn to try ahuyasca and shit. he pretty much single handedly brought that sht to everyones attention. he did mad experiments,why all the disrespect? i love acid but fuck leary
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Albert Nettingsudge - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 15:01:13 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885856
I think people are just butthurt because he's unapologetic and triggers many people who keep themselves and their beliefs very compartmentalized. Sure he was a wacky sun of a guy, but I still have mad respects for him and his humanity. Who gives a fuck what others think, just love him for what he means to you and that's enough.
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Archie Ballerwire - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 15:09:44 EST ID:+l/XAaHK No.885860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885859

Yeah, he was pretty open, even if many of his ideas seem without grounding, he was a captivating speaker and personality.
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Ebenezer Challershit - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 18:57:43 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885856

McKenna popularised both ayahuasca and DMT which to his credit was a great deed, but in no way was he the first the first non indigenous person to do it, There was another guy his name escapes me but even mckenna mentions him.

The issue with mckenna is he has so many talks over such a vast period of time that his views often change and you can use something from the 70s with shitty information and compare it to something in the 90s where he might say something completely different as new discoveries and new expression have been formed but then people will go "but look at what he said in the 70s! dude had no idea what he was talking about maan"
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Wesley Nadgecocke - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:07:32 EST ID:v/mGMdFW No.885876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885875
I don't think McKenna really knew what he was talking about at any point in his life.
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Oliver Drasslechut - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 19:48:35 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885876

Of course he did. Dont be stupid.
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Albert Pockwill - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 00:54:32 EST ID:tR/5GofV No.885883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>HYPERCARBOLATION
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Barnaby Greenspear - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 20:39:57 EST ID:v/mGMdFW No.885907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885877
He was just a charismatic psychonaut with lots of wacky far-fetched ideas, few of which were actually based in reality. His talks are interesting if you approach them as pure fiction. I don't see the value of his work beyond that and it didn't really sound like he knew what he was talking about at all.
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Albert Binkindetch - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:25:04 EST ID:/EVfbQbL No.885909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885907

He had a lot of bat-shit ideas, and his family obviously got to his head pretty quickly, but by no means was everything he talked about a load of horse wash. He had plenty of interesting philosophical talking points, particularly those relating to society and culture. Although, yes, for every good thing he spoke about he had an equally wacky, bad idea. But to say he provided nothing of value clearly seems unjustly biased and emotionally charged. And are you forgetting the lectures with Ralph abraham and Rupert sheldrake? There's certainly decent info to be found in that mix, from each of them. And together they're great.
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Jarvis Blatherfield - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 21:41:08 EST ID:LywZUfmH No.885910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just wanted to say that while on the large scale, McKenna talked a lot more bullshit than Leary, McKenna didn't fucking torpedo psychedelic drugs down to the depths like Leary did.

Of course, the main reason the US government went after psychedelic drugs and started the War on Drugs was to put civil rights leaders, anti-war activists and societal/cultural revolutionists - but Leary's crazy actions didn't help.
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Augustus Tillingstock - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:54:06 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885907

He was a theorist he theorised, he studied art and collected butterflies, he also happened to do psychedelics and talk about it.

Yeah alot of his theories turned out to be incorrect and some cant be proven, but his talks are incredibly broad to say he "didnt know what he was talking about" makes me think that you dont know what you are talking about.

Im not saying everything he said is gospel truth just that saying he didnt know what he was talking about at all is factually wrong.
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Ian Fandock - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 03:08:03 EST ID:Td/6TBQQ No.885914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885911
What do you know? Theorist is indeed a word. I mean I know scientist is a word ie someone who makes an observation, gets a theory and then tests that theory but I didn't know they had a word for someone who makes an observation, gets a theory and draws the line there, work complete. Intradesting.
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Caroline Dindlelitch - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 19:06:23 EST ID:90ZkNPKV No.885967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've got a friend like you. He's not on any meds, and he never really gets visuals from LSD or mushrooms. He also has a ridiculous tryptamine tolerance, reporting to me that he barely tripped on 4g of mushrooms, when I tripped balls off of 3.5 from the same batch. The only drug that has ever given him significant visuals was DMT, and even then, they weren't nearly as strong as they should be. I always chalked it up to him having some weird brain chemistry.
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Nicholas Pirrypitch - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 22:41:53 EST ID:PJx1I8Vo No.885971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885967
I wonder what the brain scans of such a person's visual cortex would look like compared to those who have more visuals.

In the interest of broscience can you tell me if he's typically a non-visual person? That is someone who doesn't visualize their thoughts but abstracts them some other way?
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Jenny Pickstone - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 03:17:08 EST ID:hOH78R1u No.885972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Terence McKenna talked all big about hyperspace and extravagant ideas, but when he was confronted with his own shadow on mushrooms, he pussed out. He was more of an entertainer than anything else.
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Albert Heffingbedge - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 04:41:46 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.885973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885972
not every man's demons are the same. i bet most would pussy out in his case.
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Molly Pupperpurk - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 06:59:05 EST ID:Irucq0/d No.885974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885973

I find it ironic that he ended up afraid to take shrooms. He must have had a seriously bad trip. But he was definitely an entertainer. People paid him money to speak his mind. It's not like he was a professor or anything, but I can see why some people out there might think he was trying to implant ideas in people's minds. What a crazy thing!
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Jenny Trotbanks - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:48:39 EST ID:Rr3za0So No.885994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't get closed eye visuals until I upped my dosage to 200ug. I've noticed that being in a dark room helps greatly. The first time I had CEV's I was meditating (in my bed, under my blankets, listening to music, and completely focusing my mind on nothing) and suddenly started having intense DMT-like spiral and fractal visuals off of 2 gel tabs. I also smoked beforehand.

I feel like if you are expecting things to happen like intense visuals then it's not gonna happen as you're gonna head trip yourself. I have really bad anxiety, depression, intrusive thoughts, poor self-esteem, etc, so any time I trip just for the intentions of "seeing cool shit" or whatever I usually don't arrive at that point, my mind fucks with itself and I get "bad visuals." These "bad visuals" are images my mind creates to torment myself, like DICKS EVERYWHERE or really poorly conceptualized portraits of ugly things, people (or demons) that terrify me.

Fortunately for myself, taking LSD has made my mind less harsh on itself and able to conceptualize thoughts and visuals much better. I no longer get "bad visuals" and not much has changed in my life. I'm still anxious as hell and really depressed a lot of the time. I take a small dose of benzos daily to help cope with it. If I didn't have benzos I think I couldn't manage to take any psychedelics (despite me having many good trips without benzos I started taking them, that is the price to pay of addiction I guess).

TL;DR: Get a sleeping blindfold and sensory deprive yourself except for music if you want, make sure it's not too hot in the kitchen (sweating from psychs really kill my enjoyment, I only trip if it's cold)
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Jenny Trotbanks - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 18:55:31 EST ID:Rr3za0So No.885995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885994
Before taking benzos I meant, my friend offered me Etizolam after tripping with him once for the come down and I've been fucking addicted to them ever since. I feel like Xanax is retarded but I can barely go on without feeling like I'm gonna have a seizure and die without it.
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Archie Pittgold - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 20:55:09 EST ID:ncWy+tY+ No.885997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885974

Everyone becomes apprehensive about taking shrooms eventually. All you need is that one bad trip.
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Phoebe Grandshit - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 23:46:33 EST ID:zHipDGVA No.886000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885997
my most difficult trip was my first ever
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awe !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 09:40:25 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885997
i've had that one trip. and while i no longer do breakthrough doses i still love shrooms dearly and even think i might do a breakthrough dose at some time in the future. but i do see your point and feel it.
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Lydia Drerringdale - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:04:38 EST ID:zGOhHbgd No.886791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>885708
I also rarely get visuals on psychedelics.
Most describe seeing patterns and seeing everything warp and what not, but the most I ever got was seeing stars (white glowing dots) when I looked up at my ceiling in a dark room.
My friend described seeing spider-like beings in a dark corner on 200ug and I felt ashamed for not seeing the same kind of crazy stuff.

In terms of visuals, MDMA seemed to affect me more. Everything was shiny, bright, colourful on that, while LSD only makes everything a tiny bit brighter coloured.
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Reuben Weffingford - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:26:06 EST ID:bv86efV4 No.886792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885997

just as an fyi I had to see my GP and get a clonazepam taper program in order to get off that shit. and it was still 3 or 4 months of pain.

start now. go see your doc. stuff is poison.
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Graham Blackshit - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:47:14 EST ID:JEBLvmCI No.886794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>885708
From my little experence (10 or so lsd trips mushrooms 6-8x lsa 5x,2cb 4x,ketamine probably done a kg at least by now )

The hallucinations your looking for what happen you less you smoke dmt.

You can strongly visualise/imagine things.
Strongest trip I had was with the 1p lsd I took 300 ug at once and the room caved in and tracers where every where.
Few hours after my bad trip it was as if I closed my eyes for a brief seconds and I seen every god rand religion and things like the pyridmids.Then I seen my self being reborn into the matrixs like o. The film where he exists the pod thing.

From what I can remember I didn't see it.It was more like I was intensely visualising a strong memory.
It wa lad sort of like that except you could see it more clearly.

No actual visual /objects overlapped my real visions like the dmt visions are suppsed to.
All I seen with eyes open was more colour full looking things.or things warping bending or having slight patterns on then
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Fuck Wunningspear - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:11:34 EST ID:trSbRNNF No.886795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886794

What an excellent breakfast tray.
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Awe !!vVWR8L52 - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 19:54:05 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.886798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>886795
yeah, eggs, oranges, might as well pour some milk and make a smoothie. mmmm...


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