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Morning Glory seeds by William Borryford - Tue, 15 May 2018 12:42:14 EST ID:PedhpB0W No.888800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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alright fuckers,

I bought a bag of morning glory seeds, and I'd like to trip with them. However, I've heard some of the horror stories surrounding them. my basic question is how do I extract the LSA from these guys without vomiting/shitting myself to death? also, how many should I take?

also, what's the trip like? I've heard a few different accounts so far, and it sounds at least interesting.

(pic unrelated)
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William Borryford - Tue, 15 May 2018 12:47:18 EST ID:PedhpB0W No.888801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888800
for the record, they're heavenly blue. not sure if that matters though
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Hamilton Sicklewater - Tue, 15 May 2018 17:04:52 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.888806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888800
don't trip on seeds from gardening shop

extractions are googled

even extracts can cause nausea etc

the trip is heavenly and blue
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Cornelius Ponnerspear - Tue, 15 May 2018 23:44:00 EST ID:PedhpB0W No.888817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888806
the listing on amazon that I bought these from said they're untreated, so I think I'm safe. how bad is the nausea? bearable?
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starbrother !CGFwIbbIo6 - Wed, 16 May 2018 00:04:07 EST ID:MFOnbaLa No.888818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No matter what you do, you're going to get nausea.Nobody can tell you if it will be bearable, only you can determine that in the end. Laying down and focusing on it can help, if you have mental control you can deny your gastric system when it sends requests to vomit, but it is somewhat stressful until you get good at it.

Back in my drug days I did morning glory seeds about 5 times before permanently switching to hbwr. I tried:

  1. Chewing them one time. NEVER again

2. Grinding them into a strawberry shake. I convinced myself it wasn't that bad at first, but it was just less bad than chewing them, still bad.

3. Just swallowing them all (700 seeds). Took half an hour and was horrible in a whole new and exciting way.

4.Plugging the seeds (Desperation and a large amount of seeds made for some strange times indeed.)

5. Extracting the lsa from the seeds. Didn't work, I was far too impatient and didn't feel like buying all the proper equipment.

I ended up just buying 100 hbwr seeds and tripping for like a month solid on those, there's not even any comparison between the two, it's like walking somewhere versus flying.

I hope this helps!
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Augustus Baddlesidge - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:53:05 EST ID:PedhpB0W No.888840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888818
have you tried what's listed here?:
https://psychonautwiki.org/wiki/Simple_LSA_extraction

I can't imagine LSA extraction is that difficult
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Cyril Duckman - Wed, 16 May 2018 22:27:53 EST ID:gKvH2xf9 No.888841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888840
Going through the work to do this would lead to a better tip from a mental perspective as well.
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Hugh Worthingshit - Sat, 19 May 2018 01:07:21 EST ID:p1sxIOiS No.888900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think ginger tea is the basic for anything that could make you vomit. I've also heard about crushing the seeds into lemon juice, but I'm not sure if that's for the taste or for the nausea.
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thephenomanon - Sat, 19 May 2018 05:55:51 EST ID:hEs9hRiT No.888901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>888800
ime, a good CWE yielded no nausea, wash your seeds even if untreated
4.5 grams is a pretty good dose for a beginner. It has felt very earhty and organic and have trippy circles in boxes with triangles in there too, it always felt like a bridge of communication in an alien visual language//
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Fanny Bishspear - Thu, 24 May 2018 05:19:56 EST ID:f5ozST3c No.889001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888800
Hbwr gave me an epileptic attack.

It was not fun at all
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Ebenezer Fapperbury - Thu, 24 May 2018 06:30:03 EST ID:D5YsvkLB No.889002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889001

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

An epileptic attack!

HAHAHAHA

oh you're too funny
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Fucking Chibberpodging - Thu, 24 May 2018 22:54:02 EST ID:hEs9hRiT No.889016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>889002
Seizures are no joke, I use to seize on seroquil and the likes,
my specific diagnosis was,
>>Oculogyric crisis (OGC) is the name of a dystonic reaction to certain drugs or medical conditions characterized by a prolonged involuntary upward deviation of the eyes. The term "oculogyric" refers to the bilateral elevation of the visual gaze, but several other responses are associated with the crisis.


Not only did it fuck my eyes, my mind was destroyed, it could last all day and the only way to make it go away was to lay down all day, and if I didn't fall sleep, it will
come over and over through the day, Pure fucking hell

Now i'm on clozaril, and been seizure free. But the other ones like haldol and olanzapine will start that shit in a second, I was in Jail and a state mental hospital
when this started, imagine having 0 internal stimuli, stuck in a fucking cell, no meditation, colorful imagination or pleasure. The anti psychotic medications all blind my minds eye./HPPD, and that's my personal entertainment system, with that gone...
misery., it lasted so long that I ought a sue them for malpractice, 600mg a day of seroquil 200mg at a time, caused my HPPD to be maybe 5 percent intact, that and the seizures combined was real suffering. After I got back to the jail from the mental hospital, I was no longer forced to take meds, so I stopped, in about a month of constant flushing my system with water, My HPPD/ third eye opened so much, easily as strong as a good acid trip, but different in nature, like it was more
coherent and integrate-able. 24/7 not stop tripping while sober, I have used a lot of psys and DISS, that's how I got to be that high, a permanant trip.

But now I'm on clozaril and have maybe 15-20 percent as clear as I was when I stopped taking the meds

>TLDR
the system fucked me with meds, to the point of attempted suicide, ignored my complaints of much suffering, and remember, if you try a psych med and think it aint so bad... but now you're forced to take it over long periods of time, it's not just a little vacation, it consumes your life and makes you insensive to your own feelings and minute brain chemistry changes.
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Alice Chungerchit - Fri, 25 May 2018 06:34:34 EST ID:O61PecZf No.889025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889016
>I used a lot of psy and DISS, that's how I got to be that high, a permanent trip.

You sound like a walking talking cautionary tale. I don't know that you ever should have interacted with these substances. Ya fucked up kid, and ya fucked up good.
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Hugh Subblebeg - Fri, 25 May 2018 06:48:11 EST ID:Jns5zBpH No.889026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889025

yeah fuck psych meds, fuck them, terrible illness.
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Edwin Chellerwater - Fri, 25 May 2018 21:24:25 EST ID:hEs9hRiT No.889036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>889025
lawl, I do have alot of cautions to make.

Buddha said life is suffering, Jesus supposedly suffered and did nothing wrong,
Wouldn't I have suffered something even if I was innocent? I dislike it when people blame it on the drugs. Do non druggies never suffer?
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Phoebe Fullymere - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 18:16:43 EST ID:5iXdkKAp No.889215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bumping this thread because I just ordered 1,500 untreated seeds. Thinking I will start with 75 seeds, wash them beforehand as another anon said, and do a CWE. Reading the FAQ on erowid and psychonaut wiki too.

Any other useful tips guys?
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Rebecca Gogglewill - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 20:15:37 EST ID:46PmcHlU No.889217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889215

75 seeds is an incredibly low amount. Unless it's your first Psy ever I would start with at least 300. Truth told when I was experimenting with morning Glory seeds I took no less than 1,800 seeds for a single trip.

Most people dislike it because they take way, way, way, way, waaaay too little and barely have any effects, if any, except for nausea. Cold water extraction on 800 seeds would yield the potency of about 400 seeds without a cold water extraction. Just suggestions.

You can always get more to try again later if you take too few the first time or two.
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Charles Buzzstock - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 02:06:28 EST ID:5iXdkKAp No.889218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889217
I've used a bunch of different hallucinogens before, but once I got cocky with mushrooms and cannabis and had a psychotic reaction. I'll read more about it and consider bumping the dose up but I definitely want a low dose for my first time. Also I don't want a sitter, I prefer to be alone when tripping.

So what's a dose that I'll feel it at, but it won't be overwhelming? I want a plus 2 reaction on the Shulgin Rating Scale for my first time. That way I can acquaint myself with the effects that will be intensified in a level 3 or 4 experience.
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Jenny Pockleditch - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 05:31:32 EST ID:NqbkX0Q9 No.889220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i did 9 hbwr seeds a few days ago, method was to crush them up and put into gelcaps, 9 seeds fit into 9 gelcaps. i was nauseous for about half an hour an hour and a half or so after taking them. i tried to force myself to puke but as i was staring at the ground gagging i just saw the beauty of the tiny ecosystems of forest floors and managed to hold it in. i also had a small pipe toke after this which firmly settled my nausea - but my gf had a totally different nausea experience (on 8 seeds), she ended up puking 5 times throughout the trip. it was absolutely amazing for me and she says even though the puking was a hurdle it was still worthwhile for the effects

9 seeds felt almost equal to a tab of acid for me personally
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Nell Denderfidging - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 06:35:42 EST ID:O61PecZf No.889221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889220
That's precisely what you're NOT supposed to do. CWE method does a lot to help this. The seed's shells are emetic so avoiding consuming them is kinda important.
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Awe !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 14:30:23 EST ID:W69QLDMJ No.889229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889221
I thought that was said only about HBWR seeds. Do morning glory coats have the same quality?
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Thomas Sevinglidge - Mon, 04 Jun 2018 16:18:03 EST ID:IUfz5v9T No.889235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889229

If memory serves correctly, it does, but nothing in comparison to hbwr. I think the morning glory has it all throughout regardless, but the highest concentration of it is in the outer shell. CWE should still eliminate most of this. The oil pulls most of the bad bits.
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Beatrice Sinderlock - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 05:43:46 EST ID:O61PecZf No.889244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889235
It's a fucking basic fatty compound if I remember correctly. Kinda like a eating a few drops of dish soap, but CWE in both cases helps. You just sacrifice like 10-15% of your ergoline compound yield.
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Sophie Dartshaw - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:55:35 EST ID:IUfz5v9T No.889245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889244

What kind of fatty compounds are the fucking ones? Never heard of this before.

Please expand your discussion. I need to know which are the fucking ones and what difference it makes versus nonfucking okay thank you
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Charlotte Gonnershaw - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:21:21 EST ID:m1JfSSJA No.889247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889245
The kind that wreak havoc on your enteric lining you silly walking talking meat tube.
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Sophie Dartshaw - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 11:52:19 EST ID:IUfz5v9T No.889248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889247

Are you done yet?
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Phyllis Dattinglock - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:58:16 EST ID:41UeWVpd No.889250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889248
Neener neener, you started it dummy.

Nb
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Lillian Busslesack - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 16:24:05 EST ID:USfjcRrz No.889267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>888800
>However, I've heard some of the horror stories surrounding them. my basic question is how do I extract the LSA from these guys without vomiting/shitting myself to death?
This is the first time i'm hearing this
I mean
WHAT THE DAMN FUCK?
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Lillian Busslesack - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 16:31:44 EST ID:USfjcRrz No.889268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889025
Actually
>You're on a board for getting high in psychedelic trips
>I assume you like being in a trip
>Therefore a state of permanent tripping can be considered desirable Y/N

Yes, psych meds are numbing and such. I don't recommend olanzapine either.
Psychiatry nowadays is a joke.
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John Pollerdire - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:28:34 EST ID:OQTfoDQR No.889269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889268
yeah, I'm sure having a schizophrenia or mania is like one of your trips
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' God !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:33:57 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.889277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>889235
>The oil pulls most of the bad bits.
Ok i need to know this, who and for what reasons is doing non-polar solvent pulls on morning glory? Is that for defatting? why?
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Caroline Nickleman - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:39:35 EST ID:mvATQLuY No.889278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889250

Nigga you gay as fuck. Piss off my board shit nugget
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Caroline Nickleman - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 10:42:54 EST ID:mvATQLuY No.889279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889277

I take it you don't do many drugs
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' God !!vVWR8L52 - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:22:30 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.889283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889279
nah, but I do quality drugs tho.
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Caroline Nickleman - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 13:39:22 EST ID:mvATQLuY No.889284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889283

Pshhh laaaaaaame

A real baller does whatever, whenever. Check that desire bro. Desire to what? Do good, do bad? Be one or another?

Transcend your experiential being. Do not experience, but merely be.
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Frederick Nivingford - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 01:02:54 EST ID:QukvzLkv No.889289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889283
cringe
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Phyllis Crevingfine - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 18:18:34 EST ID:USfjcRrz No.889324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>889269
i had a scizophrenia once, but then i started to realize i was actually making sense.
Long story man, i don't want to bore myself with it.
Basic misdiagnosis. Not making myself look more credible this way am i?

I mean. There's recreational use and psychonautic use.
Interesting qualities when stuff from trip world starts to cross over to sober world. No, not hppd (well, hppd is fun), i'm talking about actual verificable external effects.
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Ian Wodgeford - Sat, 09 Jun 2018 01:39:00 EST ID:AAxAz/Ti No.889336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
MGS are tricky suckers, HBWR seeds are a lot easier to make something substantial with.

The best you can make locally takes repeated QWISO extractions, allowing for settling and a lot of loss at the end to use the best cut of the solution to dry and quickly put into something drinkable that won't rot. Anything you extract from those damn seeds goes to shit outside of alcohol ridiculously fast, I managed to get a nice fluffy, shiny yellow powder once somehow that turned to ass in 2 days flat in a sealed dry amber bottle.
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' God !!vVWR8L52 - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 14:56:14 EST ID:ZgfrcNMJ No.889404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>889324
>psychonautic use.
lol


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