>>522206
I think you have serious psychological issues with women. I think you need to go to therapy. I don't think you are emotionally mature enough at present to have a girlfriend.

Yes, if you want a thin girl that is a legitimate want, there is nothing wrong with a sexual attraction to an adult. The problem is everything else you said besides that.

Just tell her. Good communication is key for any relationship. Physical attraction is also key.

>>522318
can you elaborate? would make sense because I started dating relatively late (when I was around 23) and between 19 until then I fucked trannies and prostitutes (first experiences of everything from kissing to sex was during that time)
so I don't have a "normal history" regarding my sexual/romantic development.

wow the white knight faggotry in this thread is far beyond what i expected. why defend fat people? it is their own fault. if OP wishes his gf wasn't so fat that's reasonable. doesn't mean he has "problems" lmao

Lead by example!
If you're getting super in shape and eating healthy she will join in.
Promise.

>>522312
Sometimes you've just got walk away from family. In a few years your mother will either be gone or she'll realise what she's lost and come to you and then you only engage on terms that suit you.

You have issues too though.

>attacked me last year when I refused to leave

Well who cares if she was drunk. You were fucking tresspassing on her property. People get shot for less.

Make sure you let go. You obviously struggle with it. You need to walk clean away and ensure any communication is made on your terms but remember she can decline. "My way or nothing" allows her to chose nothing. I'd probably take a good clean break entirely once you're set up. Don't tell her your address or even town. Move when you can. Ensure you control the contact. Maybe let her have an email address if you're okay with not knowing about stuff that happens to your family (maybe ever). One thing I'd bear in mind is that your mum probably poisons the minds of your family. That's a lost cause most likely.

You need to just let go. You're getting out so just let go. She's not worth it. Her punishment is you walking out. For genuinely bad people they lose a lot of people that way. They suffer the consequences of their actions without invading their home.

>>522314

> trespassing

I was invited over and she just went off about all her kids stressing her out the moment I got inside. I didnt leave because she was making a self fulfilling prophecy involving her kids and I wanted to talk with her about it more before leaving. Any critical thought required makes her flip out. I under If told to leave then go but when its not coming from a sane frame of mind its kind of more sensible to address their craziness and help them sort it out.

>>522333
Okay, fair enough but the moral remains the same. You can't help her but you can lose a lot. Or you can get the fuck out and enjoy your life.

Go get whatever job your friends were offering you, and live a good life. You can Skype or something with your mom from time to time without it being a drag, but you have to keep your distance.

Being a pimp doesn't seem like a good lifestyle.
Considering you have to control the girl and deal with potentially dangerous clients and the police who will try to put you in prison.

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>>522319
Well you could start by treating yourself well and when you are overflowing you will want to treat everyone else well.

But the best advice is to just don't fuss about it, that is treating yourself well. Godspeed.

>>522329
I enjoyed the life style to a degree, Nice things, Hotel rooms, Woman who adored me and a lifestyle that involved learning how to foster more adoration from people all the time.
dangerous clients and police were never a problem for me just main issue was letting one of the girls get damaging information about me which she decided to use to black mail me into continuing with her and stop with a few other girls.
It's not that doing what I did is a good option but with my lack of for seen ability to do anything else as successfully it may be my only option I don't feel like a complete loser.

>>522332
I do treat myself as well as I can, and I do my best to treat girls/people well when I can too granted it didn't impact on business too much.
but how can you look after yourself besides the superficial things?
eating well, looking nice etc.

You might as well break up because it's uni and she's going to have male friends and there's no way you can handle that.

You suck. You've barely even started to get to know this woman and you already expect her to not talk to members of the opposite sex. You are acting like a big male gorilla, hording some ovaries. She's not just a puss mate. She's a human being.

Are you not talking to any single women at all now? You probably aren't . That's why you're so sad. You have such a small slice of life experience that you don't even know what you're losing.

In short, this won't last and you're wasting your uni experience by having a shitty attitude. It's going to suck later on.

>>522306
Correct. Allow me to elaborate on this:

>It's always a sex thing, even when it's not a sex thing.

This sentence is elegant although it's a bit cryptic. It means that even if both parties (your gf and her boy friend) enter into the friendship with no ulterior motives, one will inevitably become attracted to the other. Repeated exposure (hanging out alone together) and shared trauma (talking to each other about problems) both lead to feelings of romantic attraction. The only scenario in which this could possibly work is if you were friends with the guy first. The fact that you're some nameless boyfriend all but guarantees she will cheat on you with him.

Don't listen to the s0yb0ys. Women sleep around when they're young, hit the wall, then start being monogamous with whatever [email protected] bucks she settles down with. Dump her and next time try to find a girl who "only gets along with boys". They are always sluts.

>>522327

>find a girl who *isn't the type who* "only gets along with boys"

nb

Did you tell her that it makes you uncomfortable that she gave a guy her number without even mentioning that she has a boyfriend?

I have a lot of experience dating, and there's nothing wrong with having friends of the opposite sex, but she needs to be aware that there are certain things that might be seen as questionable.

I see people in relationships do things all the time that they know their partner would not be okay with. It happens all the fucking time. I've been single for the last two years by choice simply because I don't feel like dealing with the bullshit right now. It takes a special kind of person to be in a healthy relationship.

Also, do not expect anything to last out of a relationship when you're under 25. Like, the point of dating when you're under thirty is to learn how to navigate a relationship so that when you are mature and responsible enough that you know what you're doing.

Most relationships last for less than two years.

>>522313
lol dont listen to this idiot

>>522277

>I never get laid
>am literally a pimp's whore

>>522265

>fuck pimps

>>522175

> He was completely naked other than his bandana.

rofl

>>522175
This has to be a troll. This is the definition of a trashy dumb hoe but she's trying to claim she's better than this other trashy dumb hoe she knows by saying she's sober (on a fucking website dedicated to drug use). It's like it's designed to piss off the people here.

>>522320
Given my centuries of extensive shitposting on imageboards, my internal heuristic algorithm tells me this is the real deal If not, bravo troll. Bravo.

>>522301

>and rich dads*

Stay way from girls with rich dads.

>>522302
Fuck my grammar.
Fuck my attention span.
Fuck my spam.
I just want to get back to my baseline.

>>522301

Also never trust a therapist. I mean I never did and I still managed to get fucked. I mean I told the one peabrained stick bitch that I wanted to marry a guy and she started making up all sorts of bullshit. I told the fat old gay pedophile that I wanted to be a chick and he started making up all sorts of bullshit. The worst part is he's a known asshole in every circle he runs in. I mean I never gave them full disclosure and still manged to get fucked.

Not that the truth is that bad.

>>522305
I had a counselor and he was fine. However I actually trusted him and resonated with his style and values. The truth is that if you don't feel that about therapy it WILL fail and you shouldn't just not trust you should find someone else regardless. A good therapist is a guide and sounding board and they can't do that if they hear your words and hear different meanings to the ones you intend.

These were people with different values and worldviews and it was doomed.

>>522159
Nah forget the getting buff and the being a higher form of yourself bullshit. Do it if you enjoy it but don't feel like you need it. The point is chill out and don't let your emotions and your dick lead you around like you're in a dog show.

Romance is best when it slowly unfolds, ideally after a fuck tonne of sex. If you're getting drunk off just being near a chick then stay the fuck back until you sober up. If you get nervous around her so much that you can't control yourself and you can't stop fantasizing about her or imagining the worst when she's not around it's going to be hard to have a good relationship at all. Get away from that kind of needy love for a bit. You don't need to have your world cave in over a chick mate. You're pretty cool. You still have a good life by yourself.

Tbh you sound like a dude that doesn't have much platonic intimacy. Get closer to your friends.

>>520918
She is a parasite and will dump you.
Fix your penis and get rid of her.

>>521165
damn niqqa get your shit together. Have some self respect. I'm not the kind of guy who would usually say something like this but: werent you in the military? dont they teach you to have some balls in there?
why did you even started to talk with her again smh

>>522111
you are clearly some sort of psycho because of obsseing so much with this hoe

>>522232

That's what happened. I got manipulated and used and discarded when she got bored. The second month when she unblocked me was blatant use and that's why she kept pulling and pulling. Because I wasn't just letting her do whatever, I was either saying no or confronting her when things weren't adding up.

>>522234

The military has taught me how to keep my house clean, be on time for work, and not do drugs. It's not as life changing on a personal level as you think. It's mostly just a stable job with benefits. These situations are learning experiences, and I have a lot of learning to do because I had a very late start.


>>522235

I'm not a psycho. I was the victim of incessant psychological abuse. She wanted me to like her and feel comfortable so she could be in my house. She played off that later with intermittent attention to maintain deoendency. I'm not a psycho. I don't use people, lie to them, or manipulate them into doing what I want them to do with no regard for their feelings or mental health. She's the psycho. A psycho wouldn't stop just because someone threatened police involvement. A psycho wouldn't just accept no contact when there are still avenues to have contact. I am more in the realm of some sort of self-love deficiency and abandonment trauma. Hence the difficulty to just let it go despite overwhelming clues. And I'm letting her go. But it's hard. I have issues to work out in therapy for sure.


I just want to thank everyone for their advice. I'm sorry I didn't heed it sooner. I was sprung asf. The thought of her being just a hoe was damn near impossible to accept. I'm putting the pieces together and finally realizing it though. This was a valuable experience, however hurtful. Thank you for your support.

>how her want for it was indoctrinated by a corporation

While I agree with you on this one, I think after having the argument/debate 8 times you should either split up or give in and get her a ring. It's obvious that it's important to her as a sign of love - how she got that idea isn't really important, in her mind. It could be a symptom of a larger problem (maybe she feels like you aren't expressing love in other ways?) but only you can really answer that.

Well yeah. Values and worldviews generally have to align enough to keep the peace in couples for the relationship to last the distance. It's a bit concerning that it's come to the point of crying about it.

I'm engaged and my fiancee and I both laughed about the idea of a diamond ring. Her engagement ring was $100 and you can change the rock to a different coloured one. Simple. It took one conversation and we already agreed at the beginning. Then again we're not entirely compatible in every area.

You guys should at least learn to talk about it in a way that doesn't have you screaming about it afterwards. Or if it does end up that way you guys should talk about it the next day when you're both calmer.

Also consider a career that you enjoy and that aligns with your values.

In other words THOSE ISSUES ARE GOING TO COME BACK AND BITE YOU IN THE FACE SOONER THAN YOU EXPECT IF YOU DON'T CONFRONT THEM!!!!!

>>522282
A lot of stuff will be said about your relationship and questions asked regarding your values and priorities (both of you). No doubt. I'm going to focus on something else.

About the law degree. Do you enjoy the subject and the craft? You can always do law for someone worthwhile.

Now I appreciate a non conformist who does what they feel is right, but if you refuse to conform unbendingly you're as bound by the rules as everyone else. "Growing up" isn't abandoning your principles but actually having them. Instead of saying "does this align with society" you should always look at what you actually believe.

Anyway if you like law then maybe look for something worthwhile to do with it. One of my old uni friends is a human rights lawyer because she's an enormous social justice warrior (though not too much of a negative stereotype now she's a real adult) and she loves it. I'm an accountant and the idea of working for a big exploitative corporation or a shifty bank makes me sick, but I love the work. Fortunately I work for an organisation I believe in. They also have lots of lawyers.

I do have to wear a tie but whatever. That's the other part of compromise. Pick your battles. Wearing a tie to work (or the 9 to 5 which is one of the least fucky work patterns to work) is not a hill worth dying on. Saying "I help people who are a positive effect on the community" rather than earning more money elsewhere is one I'd be prepared to end a relationship over though (because there'd be a huge values gulf then).

What I'm saying is that if you can do a job you enjoy and achieve something worthwhile then "wearing a suit" is a not giving up your happiness. Life is compromises and trade. The key is getting a lot out of what you sacrifice. Let the unimportant things go. You start with nothing, if you have to wear a tie to gain making a positive impact and you can live of it, do it. If that's not a sacrifice you'd make then fuck your dumb principles. They suck.

>>522241
nice pic
nice post

skirrrt

Sorry for no responses I was just kinda driving by one day.

>>522023
Eh, I often think this too. I mean I'm not full blown retarded or anything. Things are bound to work out but it's just taken it's damn time.

>>522029
I meant to respond to this Friday night but I got home way to messed up. This was honestly encouraging, it usually comes down to "being single has it's advantages" but to get more in depth, I do see what you're describing at my age. People are stuck in relationships due to children, some financial commitment and most often just because of normality. I got a co-worker that just bitches about his girl all the time and he's been dating her since I've known him. I'm fine for the most part I just get "bitch triggered" sometimes. See intimacy IRL or in media that makes me feel like garbage... Likely why I'm responding on today of all days.

>>522034
Used to drink a lot in college, had some hookups I can barley remember. I don't think I'll get powers when I turn 30 which is a shame...

Most of it starts with fixing your head. Just have to cut your losses, start with nothing and continue. Believing that you are capable of getting to where you need to go, is essential. If you don't, you just quit without entering the ring. It won't always feel like it, especially at the time, but it's better to be a bloody mess on the floor getting your ass kicked, than a pussy quivering in the corner, pissing themselves raw with fear at the idea of trying because "I JJUSSTT can't". So yeah, accept you are about to fight and get your shit in line.

Then you've got the usual self-improvement drive. Get your health in order via diet and exercise. Get some hobbies to keep your shit occupied when you ain't working. Go places. Do things. See people. Read books. Find new music. ETC. Not only are you gaining life XP, but this shit scores points with women in conversation - it gives you more to talk about. Hobbies which grow with your commitment are useful too, ie bodybuilding, art, music, martial arts, cycling etc. You might suck now but a year from now, you will be bigger, stronger and motivated to continue. Also, it should be a given that you begin sorting out all your shitty features like jerking off to anime, sleeping till 5pm after a late night video game binge and only being able to talk about youtube videos.

Acquire some basic grasp of social interactions, conversation and confidence. Practice on co-workers, random people, friends etc. Just get yourself to a stage where it's alright to walk into somewhere unrehearsed and feel natural.

Then it's just a case of improving your presentation. This is a pretty subjective and controversial area. I'd say if you want to play it safe and assure the highest probability for yourself, then it's a case of get in shape, wear basic clothing and get a haircut which doesn't suck. Stay clean, basic and look fresh. This way, you don't alienate yourself from a mainstream audience. Sooner or later, being an average looking guy will work out, if you do it right. If you are after someone more specific, then you have to be more specific. You still need to know how to have a decent haircut but style wise there is a lot m…

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>>522029
>>522032
what single ppl tell themselves to cope down the feeling of being single

it's so sad! j-just i-improve m-my life, maybe someone will come eventually... ;_; i want to hug all of you

>>522246
You're not very literate. Stealth guy was also joking you jabroni.

Improve your life because it's worth doing. It helps a bit but it doesn't change who you are. It does however make your life much better. So soldier on, one foot in front of the other. Do it for you not for "her".

Additional food for thought: If massive self improvement doesn't massively improve sex life then your worth/value and sex life aren't strongly linked. I know it's valentines day and the feeling of "why can't I crack this?" but a this guy probably gets laid more than me and he just wrote a serious post about a guy with a "stealth addiction" without making a single pun or hint of irony.

Don't wizardchan. Don't MGTOW. Just get on with your life. Also if you did make yourself a good partner and no one took that up at least you can lay that to rest. People tell me to get out there but no one I know meets good partners through "out there" or dating sites. They find them at work or through friends. So again make good friends, get a nice job. They might get you laid but if they don't you won't regret it.

>>522248

>I was j-just joking!

That's what I thought, perma. nb

>>522172
Also, it's not like I'd typically spend all day, everyday in my room anyways.
Just a certain stretch happens and everybody busts your balls, forgetting before that etc.
I'm fucked and ranting.

>>522144
I can make a better book with two sentences.

Step one: be handsome and funny. Funny is more important than handsome, though.

There you go.

As for OP: yeah people who come fresh out of high school have that high school mentality. Just be the person you'd want to be friends with and more people will gravitate to you. As for adventures and whatnot, join a club.

>>522173
I can tell

>>522180

>people who come fresh out of high school have that high school mentality

this. find events/parties by older college ppl, be active

then again, i worked at a uni recently and people don't party nearly as hard as i did when i went. OP is partially right

>>522126

>mans

>>521966
yeah, your days of moderation are an illusion.
you don't end up in the hospital for savoring fine chocolate.

but who am I to say, I've tripped on all manner of dangerous narcotics and they've helped me to become the fine person that I am today.

As a current drug abuser I think getting/staying/being clean is fine. I like to abuse because I'm a degenerate at heart that wants to see more pretty colors when I play video games but at the end of the day I think I can/should go clean and I wouldn't recommend anyone doing a psychadelic or anything that they don't already have a desire to do.

>>522166
i think heart thinks otherwise.

>>521852

>No recovery is not overrated:

There are vitamins that you can take that will help your brain physically recover from years of alcohol and or drug use.

>>521852
In my opinion. An overdose, even accidental should be a wake up call. Think, how many people due from overdoses? You think all if them were trying to do it (die)? And not just trying to get nice and high?

I'd kick the alcohol too and stick with just weed. People go on about kratom, but you gotta pound like 15 gel caps and it can make you throw up this nasty gritty powder.