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Ballin by Sophie Drandlepatch - Sat, 13 May 2017 12:25:47 EST ID:tldOIKN9 No.516198 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So since about last year around this I had socially isolated myself and smoked weed til the point of dependency. Coming out of this shell like a hopeful hermit crab and exposing myself more to other people I realise that I most definitely dislike and do not trust others at all.
I grew up in social isolation and hated it. It, alongside a few other factors, did make me try to kill myself and made me very seriously consider pulling through with it. I am healthy now and I don't want to do it. But now with weed social isolation is very cozy if you can ignore any negative emotion. My relationship with my family is dysfunctional, and that's a whole other rabbit hole.
I cannot trust the intentions of girls nor a possible shared future with one, I believe since childhood I have romanticized love to an unrealistic point. I have had sex before and it's not all that. [Fugly] Girls have shown interest in me but none I was in love with or even wanted to be with.
I have only 2 actual friends (one online and one irl), the rest are just people I am friendly with and I know and can see that they are wearing masks just like I am.
I have a selfless dream for the future but I am anywhere from one to 6 years of achieving that. I don't believe I have the mental discipline to keep that goal in focus for such a long time and not just revert to mindless consumerism or fall into depression.
The only thing that makes me capable about being hopeful about the future is distancing myself from others and just blazing up, and I honestly believe I am better off this way. I am not trying to type out an undertone of self-pity, maybe I am, I just want to know if there's any... alternative ways to achieve a comfortable mental state.
My only issue is that I don't believe this to be exactly healthy. I still want friends and to be able to have strong and loving relationships with them but I believe this to be an delusion out of my grasp. I don't see how any relationship outside of my family would develop beyond being friendly. Don't reply witht "just go out and make friends lel", I already know how to make friends. I am not an autistic 6 year old. I just don't know how any of those friendships …
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David Feblingspear - Tue, 23 May 2017 16:22:59 EST ID:n1yNxChx No.516432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i think your spirit will always want more
Shit Pobberdodge - Tue, 23 May 2017 21:20:25 EST ID:UgG3eQ4s No.516438 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You probably only took small doses of LSD. Legit take no less than 500mics of LSD and then get back to us.

Although, maybe you're right. If LSD just gave you, "teenager philosophy," then maybe you just have the mind of a teenager. It's not like the drugs show you anything that isn't already there.

Your hidden parts are just an adolescent. Nothing to blossom. Nothing great hidden deep within.
Shit Pobberdodge - Tue, 23 May 2017 21:21:37 EST ID:UgG3eQ4s No.516439 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Anyways, I was just being a dick. I do however get the idea that you haven't had a proper trip based on what you've said.
Wesley Ballyshit - Wed, 24 May 2017 08:42:01 EST ID:o7q3cvGG No.516446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Last time I took acid was 200ug. I have had stronger epiphanies on around 100ug or less. Dude, it's just a drug. No doubt that it can have incredible effects, but that's marketing of the product in itself. Either you can have sincere realizations or you can just get thoughts that comes from the fact you are high a fuck. It's not a miracle substance for everyone.
Sheriff of Noddingham - Wed, 24 May 2017 10:37:53 EST ID:FucrEdSx No.516449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First off i wanma say i feel you man, i can relate to a lot of the things you're saying. Im sure i'm probably not the only one too.

What it seems like to me is that you're lacking true meaning in your life, and are using getting blazed all day a long with isolating yourself socially to an extent to try and cover up or fill that void. It doesn't sound to me like you're completely shutting yourself out and being a full on hermit as bad as many other people do which is definitely a good thing.
My advice is to find something that gives your life true and serious meaning. I won't lie to you, i struggle with this too and haven't found that thing yet and as a result i have a list of problems of my own. The thing that gives your life meaning and passion could be a lot of things. An example thats common for a lot of people is bringint a child into the world and making it their world. Not for everyone, but thats the number one most common except for people finding the love of their life. Those are basically pleb teir though haha, and there are lots of other things. Stephen King for example, his passion and probably the driving force behind his life is his writing tons of stories and creating entire universes and plots and all that stuff, and he also has a wife and kids thrown in the mix too. I was kidding about the pleb teir part by the way haha i thought that was funny though, it sort of is pleb teir compared to shit like inventing haldron particle colliders and shit.

Anyway that's what i got. Most people who have passions and meaning for their life seem to have none of the problems you're describing as far as i know so from what i can tell they look like your best bet. Or maybe i'm 100% off and am just projecting because i know for a fact i lack a passion and something to truly live for in my life.


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Anxiety and B.S. by Loots - Tue, 23 May 2017 01:53:51 EST ID:63CQgi/0 No.516421 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I think this is the right board. Looking for shit advice on my depression's/ anxiety. If you don't want a sad sap story then stop here.
Been made fun of whole life because my hands shake, force myself to make eye contact, hermit myself to much, ect. Made myself go out more times then I can count with 95% failure rate at not seeming like a nut after the 3rd time I hang with anybody. Yousta get laid and shit but made a reputation as a sad hermit. Seems like normal people just don't like what I'm into. Sure it's me but not sure how to fix it. Tell me I'm just being a bitch but it's been over a decade and I'm getting fucking tired if anybody has any "real" advice.
Hedda Siddledale - Tue, 23 May 2017 02:51:48 EST ID:b1UFhFdv No.516423 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If it makes you feel any better, the vast majority of people deal with the same struggle.

Find people that like what you are in to. The mindset you are in now says: you are disposable and you try to make yourself valuable to others. The anxiety comes from a place of your mind lying to you saying that you are truly not valuable to others.

Fuck all that. I don't care what kind of shit you are interested in, there are others interested in it that will be about it all day with you. You need to take a mindset of: I am valuable, and if this person has no interest in the things I care about, they are shit to me. You are interested in table top gaming and ponies? There are friends out there for you at a gaming club in any town with 30k+ people. You like to ride a bicycle and get drunk later? There are cycling groups you can find online.

In short, identify the things you like to do, find a group to do it with, and disregard everybody else. If you are going out and forcing yourself to talk with total strangers that have no common interest, fuck that.

It seems like you want to try to make new friends. Do that through common interest activity. Join cycle group, tabletop group, run club, boxing club, reading group, whatever the list goes on... Find something that interests YOU and go to the people that care about that and FORGET all the "normies" that don't care about your interests.

They are right to not care about your interests. You should have the same mindset. Seek out likeminded people with the miracle of the internet.
Hedda Siddledale - Tue, 23 May 2017 03:05:09 EST ID:b1UFhFdv No.516424 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just some random shit ideas for hobbies to meet new people and fun activities:

Buy a gun, hang with Fudds at the shooting range
Go to church, practice interaction with polite society undercover
Get a job and don't act like an asshole to your coworkers, drink with them
Talk to literally fucking anybody you are around for more than 3 seconds. Queue, elevator etc.
Chartered travel groups. These exist for old people whose friends all died, but you're an old soul deader than the sacks you ride on the bus with.
Local volunteering organizations. I guarantee you local organizations need people to cook soup for free, and they won't treat you like shit.
You could volunteer to remove invasive species, care for endangered animals, this one could particularly have you interacting with the rare XX chromosome human.
Stand up nights or Improv shows. Go to a coffee shop that has people do their shitty songs, recite poems, and crap rap. Go in to it with a positive attitude and look for the parts you enjoyed. Tell the performer the part you liked afterwards. Boom, potential friend.
Hedda Siddledale - Tue, 23 May 2017 03:11:28 EST ID:b1UFhFdv No.516425 Ignore Report Quick Reply

More fun activies:

Trivia night at a local bar. Approach a small group and ask if they can join them, autismal knowledge has power.
Very casual sporting groups like Frisbee Gold
Craigslist Meet Ups

I am all out of ideas but I hope this advice was a shitty enough for you
Loots - Tue, 23 May 2017 03:28:32 EST ID:63CQgi/0 No.516426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good shit. Thanks guys.
Oliver Gammerbury - Tue, 23 May 2017 10:32:58 EST ID:SapWdr7P No.516429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go to sleep and pay attention to what your mind does with the anxiety as you are going to sleep. You will thank me later.

Roughing it by John Smallwater - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:10:15 EST ID:u21ilOgA No.516370 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone get that feeling that they can see their entire life throw a scope? like a long dirt road that you know is mostly full of work and social crap.

Shits scary man, I just want to pack up some survival gear and live out in the wild.
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Molly Trotwill - Sat, 20 May 2017 16:52:06 EST ID:D6Nw402O No.516372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol yes
though im aware i wouldnt last a week in the wild so ideally id go to a beach and fish my food
Eliza Wonnerman - Sun, 21 May 2017 13:18:35 EST ID:Yf5FfY4I No.516385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think about that a lot. I work fifty hours a week minimum, but lately I've had to pull extra days and haven't had a day off in about a month. The extra money is great, but I work ten hours a day so that's even less free time. I'm in the process of getting a new car and moving out to live with a friend where I'll have significantly less bills.

I'm going to use my extra money to pay off my car as soon as I can and then save enough money to travel across the country (US, and possibly Mexico and Canada as well) and see how I like living on the road. My end game is to make enough income some how that I can eventually afford to buy a few hundred acres of land secluded in the Appalachian Mountains in NC and build my own house and live out the rest of my life in the mountains being as self sustainable as possible.

I'd want to have my property all paid for by the time I'm moving in so that I don't have to worry about any kind of loans to pay off, and just worry primarily about food, utilities and yearly property taxes. I'm over 25 and I expect it realistic that I might not be able to accomplish this for another 20 years of more, which I suppose is fine by me so long as I'm still fit enough at that age to hike properly.

Of course yeah the whole money/having to deal with society is just the card that we were dealt. No matter how much it might suck, we still have to own up to it, fully reconcile our place in humanity, and then do the best we can to live the life we want to live while changing the world for the better.

I wouldn't be bothered so much about humanity if it wasn't just a bunch of McWalmart's and battlefields. There's no sanctity left. We've been united globally through the internet, but now we have to learn to work together to make this a world worth living in for everybody.
Samuel Heppershit - Mon, 22 May 2017 14:39:39 EST ID:gmpdueKa No.516410 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I think of them as roads. I most recently found myself in a job that payed decently, but was the same thing day in, day out, with no way up, and nowhere to go. You see, I was too good at my job for them to put me anywhere else. And I was the only one that could do it. So I kind of doomed myself to it by being good at it.

So like I said, nothing to grow into, same job forever. I could see my future, and I wanted to die when I looked at it.

But then, while I was looking for another job, I started fucking off at work, and eventually I got fired for "giving up."

So that road doesn't end in mediocrity and retirement, there's a fork in that road with hundreds of prongs leading in different directions, and I can take any one of them.

So right now I'm working on taking a road that gets me the fuck out of this state and out on my own. Away from everyone's influence.
Phyllis Billingshaw - Tue, 23 May 2017 03:51:59 EST ID:nsIqiwHF No.516427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have the same fears. That I'm working towards nothing. I don't really want to make my bosses rich for the next 40 years, so I'm trying to reduce my expenses to as little as possible. Maybe live in a van. I traveled for an extended time, and truly believe that routine is the quickest way to depression.
John Smallwater - Tue, 23 May 2017 06:26:46 EST ID:u21ilOgA No.516428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've thought about getting a van too, the problem with that is you have to pay for fuel, and using vegetable oil in a diesel engine is illegal I think, so unless you can dodge the police and know how to convince restaurants and the like to donate there unneeded veg oil that option is out, thats just one of the things you'd have to pay for too.

I've dreamed of getting some land of my own too, but I'm not about to give up 20 years of my life for it, god no.

I thought about brushing on my survival skills, I have a food for free book right now, not fully committed to the idea just yet but at the very least its an interest.

There's also dumpster diving.

Getting with a shy girl by Frederick Sadgebanks - Thu, 04 May 2017 16:47:35 EST ID:0cozB/oj No.515994 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I haven't had much experience at all with girls. I'm almost 25 and all I've got on my CV are two or three cringe-worthy dates with a girl when I was 17.
Last week I was at a house party and got chatting with a girl. We basically sat and talked for hours on end, which is extremely rare for me because I'm a very shy, self-conscious person. We exchanged contact information, walked to the station together and shared a passionate kiss.
Now we've been texting everyday for almost a whole week, mostly inane stuff, but we're slowly feeling our way, slowly getting to know each other.
Now like me, she's very shy. So I'm going to have to play the long game here and that's completely fine with me, because to be honest this is all so new to me as well. All I know is that I'm into her, and I've got a spy (my friend who threw the house party sort of set us up), who reports for me, so I know she's also into me.

What I'm basically asking is, is there anyone here with experience with shy girls? How long should we continue texting and feeling each other out before I take the step and ask her out? What would be a good place for a first date?

Thanks a lot in advance.
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Beatrice Moblingridge - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:23:28 EST ID:WCiWyIpM No.516335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
google coach corey wayne
he will tell you what to do, he's a life coach and he's good
Hedda Mankindog - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:29:43 EST ID:5iuMr5ZK No.516336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're such an analyzer OP. You have everything in the bag by the looks of your OP, and yet you still feel the need to seek further help to increase your odds. It screams of a desperate need to find somebody, presumably because of how powerless you feel to seek out a mate on your own. People like you, who think all the time and are socially awkward/inept with women, I find are some of the easiest people to relate to. Have fun OP.
Nell Bettingkug - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:37:59 EST ID:0cozB/oj No.516415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for everyone's input, I'll take it to heart.
We're still texting daily about our lives, and have made an agreement to postpone future dates until my final exams for uni are over in two weeks time. Cause I really need to focus and get my shit together if I want to pass.

One thing that's niggling me is that we're almost identical in terms of personality, but our interests differ so incredibly much. I am so into Doctor Who, Harry Potter, Game of Thrones etc, but she's never liked any on them. She's into handcrafts, drawing etc, which I'm not into. Is there a possibility of romance if we're both so alike, but can never connect on a fanbase level? I've always wanted to talk about my media interests, but she just isn't into any of my favourite stuff. Blogging again, sorry. I just wonder what the nights on the couch will be like if we ever get there, and we don't give a shit about the shows/films/literature we love.
Jenny Buzzway - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:53:52 EST ID:UrQwPY3E No.516416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think postponing it will only make you more nervous man. Why don't you tell her like 'Hey, I know I said we should wait a couple weeks, but I really want to see you, let's like, go out for a walk or something'. That'd be sort of romantic. I've made the mistake of thinking "Well, this is a sure win, I can postpone it until I feel more comfortable with it". But nothing lasts forever, and people change their minds. If you're both so much into each other, I wouldn't wait 2 more weeks to go out with her (specially given you've already been talking for like a month). Maybe I'm just projecting, or I'm just paranoid, but you could check if you're really all that out of time.

Also, interests don't mean shit really. If you do get along (and that's what metters in the end) you'll start finding what the other person likes more interesting or you'll make an effort to do it.
Frederick Figglefield - Mon, 22 May 2017 19:37:13 EST ID:OAGzXzE1 No.516417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heed this. At the very least, take time out to CALL her at some point. Tell her you needed a break from studying.

Also, don't worry about interests too much. You could find her telling you to be quiet while she watches one of your shows, and you knit next to her on the couch.

TAKE YOUR TIME. If you two decide you make better friends one day, so be it. This is only the beginning.

relationship or not by Eliza Honeystone - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:21:40 EST ID:iuNnTLlP No.516406 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /adv/,

so when I was younger I was a forever a spider monkey's butt dude like a lot of people here. Used to have a lot of issues with depression and social anxiety. I started to change things when i was 21 and tried to get more social. Things improved slowly and I met my first girlfriend when i was 23. We broke up a bit more than a year ago and im 28 now.

Anyway not that long after breaking up with my ex i started dating this chick which ive already know for quite a while and we get along pretty well and im definitely attracted to her. Things are turning a bit serious however and i think she wants to turn it into a relationship soon but im still not sure what i want. On the one hand I would like to see how things would go with her if we got more serious. Now heres the issue, because I started the whole dating thing pretty late and the second girl i dated was my ex. So in total i've only really dated 4 girls. The thing is that I really feel a strong urge to be free and date people who i'm interested in.
This isnt just to crank up my numbers but to get more experience with different types of personalities and maybe explore a bit more what i like and want. Especially because I wasted a lot of time being a forever a spider monkey's butt dude i feel i should do it now that im still relatively young instead of somewhere in my 30s. I'm also worried that i will keep this urge if i would be to go in a relationship now, and maybe have a negative effect on the relationship. However i feel that if i let the girl go that im dating now there is a big chance she will move on and i guess that doesnt feel good either. And maybe true love in the end would be more rewarding than dating some random people ? All this shit is kinda making me overthink everything.

So mainly looking for advice from similar ex-forever alones or other people to see what you guys experienced. Should i explore now that im still young or take a chance and go for the girl im currently dating?
Eliza Honeystone - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:23:42 EST ID:iuNnTLlP No.516407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hmm not sure why it changes forever a spider monkey's butt into spider monkey butt dude
Jenny Hozzlewut - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:30:28 EST ID:+1UWIQtw No.516408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because it's a dumb meme cliche?

Also I had one relationship. One. It was good. I would have been happy but life made things too difficult. There's a lot of people who regret letting someone go and I think there's a whole bunch of suitable people for all of us not even a single best type. She's found someone else and I'm glad he's nice but I've had no such luck.

However at the same time if you can't slake that feeling of doubt it will always be there.

You can and should rationally assess this, but then go with how you feel. But only once you've thoroughly explored things. How does this girl make you feel? What could you imagine someone else having? What are your doubts about her?

However this is coming from a guy who's basically struck the fuck out again since. I'm nearly 32 and I'm the dating equivalent of rotting shit though most of the rest of my life is in okay to good order whatever I do to improve myself so I would absolutely not go purely on what I'm saying.
Albert Honeywater - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:27:20 EST ID:T9tKlW7n No.516414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess what makes it difficult is that im kinda confused about my feelings for her. I definitely have feelings for her and we get along well. Although she has different interests and bit less of an adventurous character ( maybe also because shes 21 and im 28) so that conflicts a bit Im not sure how well that would work on the long term.
Ebenezer Billerhood - Tue, 23 May 2017 13:34:52 EST ID:Y6BNAIML No.516431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Different interests or just not all the same interests? I feel like this matters. Also most people don't get more adventurous with age but I guess it depends exactly how you define the word and what you feel you might miss out on.

You'd also really benefit from the insight of someone who wasn't me.

Sporadic loneliness by Lillian Pockhall - Sun, 21 May 2017 00:55:41 EST ID:gu/lq3ms No.516378 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anybody else know what I'm talking about? Most of the time I want to be as far away from people as possible. I'm planning on moving way the fuck up North into the Yukon or even maybe Nunavut because Southern Ontario has entirely too many goddamn people, but every now and again I get these days where it's crippling. All I want is to sit around and get high, listen to music, and just talk to another human being, and the knowledge that even something so simple is mostly beyond me is killer.

It's the biggest fucking catch 22. The only person I could ever share my life with is somebody like me but I'll never find them because they're like me. Ironically it's shit like that which convinces me God is real because that is too fucking funny to be a coincidence.

I'm drunk and it's been like an hour since I started this thread and I forgot where I was going with it but if anybody has any advice on how to deal with being hyper lonely once every three months that'd be cool.
Ian Drevingridge - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:02:15 EST ID:rRMr7xq2 No.516380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude, me too. You have a Facebook?
Lillian Pockhall - Sun, 21 May 2017 11:10:44 EST ID:gu/lq3ms No.516383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beatrice Chinkinman - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:01:50 EST ID:WCiWyIpM No.516404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did you have painful things happen in your past?

Come Brag by Little Taco X - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:38:54 EST ID:5iuMr5ZK No.516337 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Take no shame in boasting here. Speak the things that you're proud of. Indulge your ego- it's why I made this thread. Watch, I'll go first. Just kidding. PSYCHE- GET SMOKED!
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Fanny Senninggold - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:07:27 EST ID:i7wBrh9f No.516346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm good at making (some of) my friends laugh, I have a good musical ear, a couple of people have told me I have a pleasant singing voice and I'm smart enough to do well but not so smart that I'm unhappy and lonely. I'm also very good at crying and being a fatass.
Lydia Clonnerwell - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:12:13 EST ID:gmpdueKa No.516347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I became a chemist at a company and in 2 years had a seat at the decision table where I could help shape and determine the future of that company with all the parties and treats included with it. I can deadlift twice my body weight, and I'm smarter than most people without trying. I'm also a very fast learner and trained in various martial arts over the years.
Eliza Huffinggold - Fri, 19 May 2017 17:05:59 EST ID:TX3Ezud6 No.516350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm really good at bending my self view so much that I believe I am really good at things I don't have a clue about whatsoever. And the things I actually am good at I just regard as "meh" and I have no confidence in whatsoever. I also excel at trying out new interests and hobbies just to the point that I get invested enough to invest in material to make something real happen at which point I drop it completely. I'm also real good at portraying negative traits from a semi-positive perspective.

But for real, I'm truly very good at eating out girls asses. I don't pussy around, I ravage that anus sensually, teasing it up a bit first and going all in just when they desire it the most. I got a girl that was doubtful of anal all into it by the passion of my asslicking skills.
Jenny Pittford - Sun, 21 May 2017 17:03:25 EST ID:0tc71WAj No.516388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I graduated from Nursing School a week ago and I already have a job. I'm only 22. Fuck yea for doing something right with my rocky life.
Alice Pottingham - Mon, 22 May 2017 09:37:55 EST ID:13pkC2bm No.516397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Most of my friends seem to suffer from some kind of brutal anxiety or depression.

I'm really, REALLY, glad that I don't. I do have my own insecurities and shit, but in reality I'm very happy and comfortable with who I am.

Starting college late in life? by Fuck Dagglepire - Wed, 17 May 2017 19:10:19 EST ID:GV9SUhOg No.516301 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey, folks. I'm a 27 year old male in the United States. I'd like to go to college in order to pursue a degree. I never took the sat or the act.

What do I need to know in order to not fuck it up?
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Charles Grandbury - Sat, 20 May 2017 19:16:59 EST ID:odI2jO9j No.516376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah sure, blame the victim.

The reality is, the economy ain't as good as President Trump would have you believe. There's more people than jobs that pay enough to buy a house and start a family. Automation is destroying the middle class, so the you're either one of the few super-elite or you WILL work in the service industry underclass. We live in 2017, not the economic bubble of the roaring 90s.
Lillian Pockhall - Sun, 21 May 2017 00:18:15 EST ID:gu/lq3ms No.516377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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For real. I went into the trades (electrical) and even though The Trades™ is what people tell you to go into for a surefire gig, I can't find shit.

UBI when, jack me into the matrix I'm ready
Nicholas Gebberhit - Sun, 21 May 2017 05:53:34 EST ID:WVSsaSHI No.516379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
"The trades" is a bit of a meme. Though that said maybe you're in the wrong area. Also I've heard of people waiting for plumbers and builders but never electricians so maybe you picked the wrong trade.

The economy doesn't need to grow really. Most people who talk about economic growth don't understand the basic economic problem or what an economy is. The definition is a system of distribution of limited resources for unlimited wants and needs. Now personally I think that making a number of dollars higher isn't as valuable as satisfying needs but for the time being there will be no UBI and laughable welfare, and private healthcare and poor schools and expensive housing but some people have to have their gold plated toilets and 3rd sportscar and professional ball washers. Unfortunately the latter group are the ones with spare income to fund political campaigns.
Cornelius Tillingville - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:52:18 EST ID:cZfLVpD1 No.516381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I dunno man. I went to college for some trade programs. Dropped out and I'm highly employable just because I went to trade school, did awesome the first couple semesters and dropped out. I can go and work on shit and just make it happen or work so that makes me really employable. If I wanted to do trade work, I could find a steady full time job here in the US or in Europe. Dunno bout electricians but my fields are in high demand and have been that way for the past 70 years.

But I sorta feel you OP. I'm going back to college to be able to live my artsy fartsy "dream." I'm going in at 22 and will be out at 24.5ish. Feel like I'm substantially behind the curve at that point because most people started doing what I'm doing at 13-16. I started at 18 and they all went to college then. So I'm gonna be around 18 year olds who already have an upperhand and I don't do much social shit.

I can probably network with the instructors though to set me up pretty well after college. But, I'm sure it will be fine, even if the underage crowd is begging me to buy them beer and shit.

Just show up, do your work and keep a friendly demeanor with the professors. Ignore the partying and bro lyfe. When people say to network and be social in college, they mean with the people who have been in the field for decades. I was chummy with some of them in trade school and I still have an offer I could take up to work in Dusseldorf for 60k euro a year with free housing and transportation. Focus on getting as many A's as you can. Scholarships are dope as all fuck dude.
Nicholas Gebberhit - Sun, 21 May 2017 09:39:53 EST ID:WVSsaSHI No.516382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My point wasn't that trades don't make you money but that it's become this sort of dumb meme. You need to still find your market and find the demand for your services and then offer those services to the interested parties. If you are in the wrong part of the country trying to find the wrong sort of clients you're going to be SOL, if you're unproven looking for big jobs you won't get taken by anyone who isn't desperate.

I also get the impresion this varies with trades. People wait weeks for plumbers. They wait months or years for a good builder in the right area, but then some places will have no demand for new kitchens and extensions by the nature of their demographic. Electricians are not a thing I've ever heard people talking about, I think they get the builder they waited 2 years for to do a hack job while they're there instead. However when you're working for a property developer electricians are top of the pile it seems. My uncle has been doing it all his life and he's nearing retirement age now. He frequently works 100 miles away on sites because I guess the city he's working doesn't have someone with his talents out of the million off people knocking around that is available. He has a nice house and last year took almost 2 months off work to go goof off in Thailand with his wife who was also off work (though she works in schools so she was on leave anyway) so it works but he obviously didn't just have that fall into his lap. He had to start by groveling to a property developer and prove to them just how good he was so that they started to give him a job like this.

I think i went insane by Beatrice Honeyham - Sat, 20 May 2017 07:30:05 EST ID:cajtEPh4 No.516360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've wanted to kill myself before i even knew what drugs were, i believed all sorts of bullshit like religion/magic etc. Ever since i discovered drugs, life seems actually liveable and after 3 days of some sort of meth derived thing, i got all my shit sorted out, it permanently, it gave me this realistic point of view that would have been super usefull when i was a kid. Anyway, the whole 3 day thing was years ago, like 6 or 7 years ago, i think. Last year i tried acid for the first time, everything was pretty chill until i got this weird realisation that im somehow retarded or that im missing something that everyone else gets. Ever since i feel like im in hell, there is this weird feeling as if everyone knows what im thinking, like im making it obvious through my speach ad gestures, but really really specific. Mix that in with intrusive thoughts and bam, infinite guilt and paranoia. It was just half a stamp A YEAR AGO. Now i feel like its too late to kill myself, like i have to finish a bunch of personal projects but i feel im just trying to trick myself into keep on going even though most of the time i really wish i didn't exist. Weed chills me out a bit and i do x ocasionally, i either feel normal then or the same but really dont care. I dont have a job, i cant go see a shrink. Is this normal like that first time weed experience when you think they know? Some recomended taking acid again, others to just drop drugs alltogether, but if i have to go back to life before drugs, i think i prefer this feeling of hell and constantly being judged and shamed for my thoughts i have no control over. Sometimes i have to hit my head against a hard surface a few times to make them go away, but these thoughts were there way way WAY before drugs/alcohol. Its kinda like being tickled, you're laughing but you're not having fun. That is my life right now either im on or off drugs, this thing doesn't go away, and everytime it happens i just keep telling myself there's no way this is real and every time i try that, the discusions people are having around me become even more personal. It's as if im constantly being talked about but without fully understanding the double meaning of whatever they're s…
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John Smallwater - Sat, 20 May 2017 07:51:25 EST ID:u21ilOgA No.516361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You might have some kind of disorder, like depression or bipolar, its nothing to be ashamed of, and try not to care what people are talking about, chances are they aren't talking about you, even if they are it really doesn't matter.

Dont know if this helps, hope you sort this all out some day.
Albert Beffingforth - Sat, 20 May 2017 13:49:35 EST ID:bcfV+ABm No.516368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People can tell what you're thinking it's called body language, and maybe you are retarded if you think hitting your head against a wall is a solution. Stop worrying about it and go find a job or something to occupy your time
Doris Fanstone - Sat, 20 May 2017 15:45:48 EST ID:jw/uuyaS No.516369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Your story sounds almost suspiciously similar to mine. Been dealing with the same shite for ~10 years now. The guilt, paranoia, feel like an outsider (in a retarded way)... TBH with you, shit hasn't improved much over the years, but I've become better at dealing with it all (i.e. not giving a shit). Not to say you wouldn't get better though, never know. In the meantime, find something to distract yourself from your thoughts. And I mean really, focus all effort on this, what ever it takes, you need to stop this kinda thinking so it won't get a grip on you. Always remember: your mind plays tricks on you, recognize that and be a skeptic of your own thoughts. That's about all the advice I can give, good luck.

Am i fucked? by Nicholas Gizzlefoot - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:22:02 EST ID:ZPZ3zWdc No.516348 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey 420chan, im a newfag that came here asking for some quick thoughts, im going to the doctors soon because since i started heavily smoking weed (Most of the time out of a bong) i get a really bad cough and a wheeze, after a day of smoking my other days when im not, consist of more coughing for no reason, lots of phlem and more wheezing but this time with shortness of breath ( i cant take a deep breath without coughing)... I went to the docs once for a this prob couple weeks ago and all he gave me was antibiotics to take for a week and it did nothing. So i want to ask, am i fucked and wont be able to smoke regular like out of bongs, or is this actaully something a doc can do to help m
David Bunwater - Fri, 19 May 2017 16:09:21 EST ID:b1UFhFdv No.516349 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Stop smoking out of a bong. Buy a vaporizer if smoke is bothering your lungs?

How long has then been happening? Did you not take all the antibiotics or skip days like a retard?
Hedda Wublingforth - Sat, 20 May 2017 06:57:23 EST ID:bpG5EuOk No.516358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Smoking bongs may have triggered asthma you were unaware you had. Go to a real doctor, not some idiot who just throws pointless anti-biotics at you, and get it checked it out. Also stop smoking from bongs and maybe invest in a vaporizer.
Hedda Wublingforth - Sat, 20 May 2017 10:35:34 EST ID:bpG5EuOk No.516365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PS I have asthma, which was onset by tobacco smoking (that I've now quit thank God), and it fucking blooows. Do not mess around with your lungs man, trust me on this one. I have had some really, really shitty asthma attacks that are just a world of pain, stress, inconvenience, fright and all around shit. Stop smoking bongs. Go to a doctor and get him to test you for any lung-related problems, ya don't wanna end up like me, enslaved to a goddamn inhaler.

BED BUGS by Eliza Clellywell - Tue, 16 May 2017 07:08:30 EST ID:n1yNxChx No.516278 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys what the fuck do I do? I found a first stage little FUCKER that just took a blood meal. Early infestation. GOD DAMNIT I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THIS SHIT
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Fuck Gummleford - Sat, 20 May 2017 01:23:17 EST ID:a0x1Sq/U No.516354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
um gas doesnt kill them... the pest controll would have had you wash anything fabric, then heated all of the rooms in your place up with heaters. heat is the only thing that can kill them reliably
Fuck Gummleford - Sat, 20 May 2017 01:23:17 EST ID:a0x1Sq/U No.516355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
um gas doesnt kill them... the pest controll would have had you wash anything fabric, then heated all of the rooms in your place up with heaters. heat is the only thing that can kill them reliably
Nell Blatherfoot - Sat, 20 May 2017 02:51:09 EST ID:Awn2BIsC No.516356 Ignore Report Quick Reply

you fucking idiot there are hundreds of eggs hidden that will hatch ones the poison fades. i was not joking when i said bleach or fire.
Hugh Ganderhod - Sat, 20 May 2017 08:16:59 EST ID:WCiWyIpM No.516363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ok you need to get laid really badly
it's a residual poison
i was just making a holocaust joke ffs
Hugh Ganderhod - Sat, 20 May 2017 08:52:54 EST ID:WCiWyIpM No.516364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also i washed all clothes bedding etc etc i got a professional just relax nigga god damn

Brittles by Ian Cimmerville - Tue, 16 May 2017 23:39:08 EST ID:EYC3ktS4 No.516289 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /qq/,

Have had severe depression since I was 13. I am going to be turning 26 soon. I
only recently got on anti-drepressents and they make things tolerable but I still get suicidal thoughts all the time. Therapy i'snt really helping anymore and most of my friends have moved on with their lives (moving to other states/deep in careers/having kids/etc) so I am very lonely. I have never had any sort of relationship and am still a virgin because i never wanted to hurt anyone with my toxic mindset. Everything I've tried to improve my mindset to a more positive one has failed. I use to be able to use physical self punishment and self-hatred to motivate myself to change behaviors but I am beginning to burn out. I feel like after 13 years of never being really happy I am just going to have to accept that nothing will ever feel good and this is just the negative reality I have to live in whether I like it or not.

Any Advice?
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Priscilla Hoppergold - Wed, 17 May 2017 13:11:37 EST ID:WVSsaSHI No.516293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Being a barely functional mess probably won't hurt other people but no one who wants a healthy relationship will be interested in you. You will attract equally broken people and worsen each other or more likely abusive partners who don't want healthy, they want victims. In short OP's right but it's mostly OP being protected.

Okay so as for your questions OP. Two things.

First of all maybe try a different antidepressant. Maybe this isn't the best one.

Two that alone will not fix you. It's just a band aid to stop your guts falling out while you heal. The reason negativity doesn't work is because it's reinforcing your problems, it never works. Negativity is a self reinforcing feedback loop because it makes you feel bad so you feel bad and are more negative.

Positivity is also a self sustaining feedback loop. When the shit hits the fan you are more resilient. Being negative is going to the market to sell some apples and taking 15 in your crate because you're worried you might have an accident, then you fall over, drop them and throw your hands up in the air and storm off home after breaking your crate in a fit of rage. Positivity is taking 20, but when you fall over you think "maybe I can save some" then you make it to the market with 8 apples and your family doesn't starve and you feel better. And if you're really practiced at positivity you think about how you would have handled that and feel good. Positivity is taking opportunities, when shit happens the opportunity is often to minimise how bad it is and salvage what you can.

We will always feel bad and miserable. You cannot change it. Shit will happen. Existence is suffering. However you can increase the amount of good in your life and maybe that is the approach you should consider. I mean some suffering is avoidable and should be avoided but it isn't all suffering. Which also is why a lot of people who seem to cruise through shit aren't cruising, they just have more protection from the bad times.

Anyway you can't create positivity with negativity. That is what you tried. Creating a new better positive feedback loop requires sustained effort though. It's har…
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Edwin Craddlewidge - Wed, 17 May 2017 13:33:36 EST ID:ibzykhIS No.516294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is tons of research now on mental disorders and their links with our genetics.
Mutations in our genes cause certain pathways in our body to become overloaded, we can treat them semi-effectively with simple supplements. Note I don't meant a multi vitamin, I mean precise supplementing to correct simple pathway blocks drastic effects.

Look up "MTHFR" gene and CBS pathways to get you started, good luck

Personally I have not had much fortune but I let it go to long, my depression and ADHD symptoms eventually turned into ALS type condition.

But they're all related, the human genome has been mapped and if you want to feel happier you must try and understand why your constant state is one of dysphoria.
Alice Crudgefield - Thu, 18 May 2017 20:23:15 EST ID:EYC3ktS4 No.516334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have tried a lot more positive reinforcements but they tend to help for only a short period and then collapse no matter how hard I try. Its just that self punishment always worked for immediate relief/ results. I know that bad stuff will always happen, thats not my issue nor really what affects depression. Its a false view of Depression. Depression is not based in reality, it's based on the chemicals In your head.
I am also very good at coping with failure but thats also not my issue.
My issue is since it has gone on for so long should I come to terms with these feelings and accept my issues or should I continue to beat my head against a wall in hopes of becoming an individual worthy of actually having an existence?
Edward Sullyford - Sat, 20 May 2017 07:07:54 EST ID:WVSsaSHI No.516359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're taking the right corrective action then what should happen is positive action results in nothing for a while. Because the energy is going into disrupting the existing cycle.

I found the opposite, no benefit initially, it was worse as I put more effort in for nothing but as things improved it became self sustaining and eventually easier.

It's not just about positive reinforcement but making sure you're reinforcing stuff which pays off long term. Picking the most superficial but easiest example to explain from my own experiences, I started dieting and losing weight and I was miserable and hated it. But after a while I lost about 40 pounds and someone said "You're looking very svelt" now I was still fat at that point but it felt good and it made things that much easier. I redoubled my efforts and the compliments poured in. Now I work out and maintain my diet and it's still hard work but every day I don't feel self conscious, all physical endevours are easy, I fit into normal clothes, when people stare I don't feel disgusting, my athsma doesn't bother me any more when it would cripple me and this means my life is better for those effort. But for a long time I gave up things I loved eating for no return at all. I just felt bad
Hugh Ganderhod - Sat, 20 May 2017 08:14:46 EST ID:WCiWyIpM No.516362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hey, try exploring this website for awhile


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