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Uppers vs downers by Hugh Clayshit - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 10:54:28 EST ID:u8MKrdWX No.282884 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am really interested in the idea that you can be either an upper guy or a downer guy.

What are your thoughts on this matter and which do you think you are? Obviously this is a superficial distinction we are making here but I think it can be philosophical to take this question seriously.

My main thought is that it depends not on personality per se or even brain chemistry, but what you want to do with your time when stimmed or downing.

Downers seem incompatible with work. Stims have considerable potential to enhance work capacity. One could use stims for work and then alcohol or benz or opioids for recreational down time.
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Lillian Dunnerfield - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:47:03 EST ID:nRKMKaiV No.282921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>282884
>My main thought is that it depends not on personality per se or even brain chemistry, but what you want to do with your time when stimmed or downing
So I'd debate this primarily because it really DOES depend on brain chemistry @ the end of the day (my source being that I'm currently wrapping up my neurology degree in uni), but I won't delve into the actual science of it unless requested.
(Everything we do/we are is dependent on brain chemistry; it's important to remember that brain chemistry can be REWIRED based on the conditions/environment)

Taking that into consideration, I'd argue that as children we are exposed to said conditions or environments that determine whether we'll be more susceptible to stims or to downers (not to mention individualistic predisposition to stims or downers based on genetics alone).

For instance, I suffered excruciating migraines for most of my childhood and still occasionally experience them. As such, by the age of (I want to say) 12 or 13 I had a percocet prescription for said migraines. Due to the fact that I only took these downers when in immense pain, I'd imagine that my passive/impartial opinion on downers stems from the fact that my brain was accustomed to it being in my body exclusively during periods of trauma. Around the time I was 15, I tried MDMA, fucking LOVED it, likely because it was the first drug that was genuinely EUPHORIC (I'd already tried weed 2 years prior but obviously it wasn't nearly as uplifting).

In other words, to me stims were first introduced as "HOLY SHIT THIS IS THE FUCKING BEST" whereas downers were introduced as "I am in the worst pain of my life."

Obviously this is a unique experience, but I use it as an example to portray that it's actually a sequence of unique experiences/conditions that *INITIALLY* determine what we'll be more susceptible to, because each person has a unique growing experience that shapes their entire brain's chemistry.


For discussion's sake, if I were to ignore all of these facts, there's no denying that what one would like to do with their time would play a big role in determining which category of drug they'd appreciate more. I like doing shit twice as fast; I wouldn't willingly slow myself down with opiates or benzos, the reason being that I am already a very relaxed/mellow person when not stimulated. I used to very rarely take the occasional benzo or opiate, but usually just out of boredom. They were of no value to me beyond that other than if combined with a stimulant. Anyone who more or less agrees with this statement or something similar to it (anyone on /stim/ basically lol) would agree because our reward system in the brain demands extra 'reward', which downers can't actually give us.
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Shitting Sindleway - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:51:02 EST ID:smhspJtY No.282922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Downers tend to be extremely dangerous. Withdrawing from alcohol or benzos can be life-threatening. And we can talk about opioid dependency all day because it's an epidemic.

Our dopamine systems are quite resilient, perhaps because of evolution. Pretty much every fucking person does a stimulant somehow. Caffeine has minor effects on dopamine. Something like half of all US adults do caffeine daily.

The brain chemistry associated with downers isn't as resilient. Benzos will actually make you dumb as fuck and recovering from them is a nightmare.

Withdrawing from stims? Pffffft. You'll get over it. Won't kill you at least.

The only downer I like is Phenibut because it's barely even a downer. But even this drug is something you can't take daily.
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Shitting Sindleway - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:01:44 EST ID:smhspJtY No.282923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282922
p.s I'm also ADHD

no shit I like uppers
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Lillian Dunnerfield - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:09:27 EST ID:nRKMKaiV No.282924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>282922
Agreed phenibut is the fucking BOMB

It's been a few months since I've bought any, thanks for the reminder
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Jack Hobberhood - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 11:55:33 EST ID:D4frTttX No.282929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282922
As someone who has chronic anxiety and I like downers because they make me chill

But yeah-regular downer use is terrible for you.

As for opis I only do hydrocodone and even then I only do twice a month, every other or other 2/3 months.


Reverse Stim Effects by Basil Hollerfoot - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 16:43:41 EST ID:NqSlG9k3 No.281611 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there a way to reverse the consequences of long term adderall abuse? I used 40 mg a day for a long time and it's been half a year since I've used. I am depressed an anxious, moody, unmotivated, and feel like shit. I exercise regularly and eat healthy now, but my brain feels fucked. Please help.
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Komarov - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 04:58:02 EST ID:lLM6Mfx5 No.282918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281644
what did you do to make people hate you this bad Lioness
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Nell Tillingspear - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:36:49 EST ID:actP7wEO No.282919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282424
Fuck you I was the one who started the thread that cursive died you lying sack of shit.
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!OZ0T5mEIBQ - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 05:42:35 EST ID:actP7wEO No.282920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282437
Sup REEEEEEEEEEEEE
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IPLEADtheFIFTH - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:57:48 EST ID:v3PjrQYC No.282926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>281611
drink water and exercise on the daily for a long time. your body/brain will recover but you have to build them up
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Lillian Dunnerfield - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 07:11:30 EST ID:nRKMKaiV No.282927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>281611

What this guy said (and I'm sure others have too just don't feel like reading)
>>282926

The more diligent you are about drinking lots of water and exercising, the sooner you'll recover, although it will take time.

It's gonna be the hardest at the beginning.
Go out and get exercise as often as you can during this time. Even if it's just a walk around the neighborhood. Eventually, because your brain will be craving adderall (your "addiction,"), exercising will eventually become your "new addiction" in that the endorphins released during exercise will become what your brain replaces the old dependence with, *RELATIVELY SPEAKNG.*

I cannot stress enough it'll be tough at first. It'll be hard to find motivation. During these times, remind yourself it's so you can stop feeling like fucking trash and get better as soon as possible. Eventually it'll start to feel amazing and you won't want to miss a day.


Last and arguably most importantly: YOUR FUCKIN DIET
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{SHADOW PEOPLE} by IPLEADtheFIFTH - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 06:43:06 EST ID:v3PjrQYC No.282925 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how long before you start seein the shadow people? i start hearing {SHADOW COPS} everywhere on the end of the second night and start to peek at the blinds till my friends tell me i need to go to bed, dont start seeing the full on shadow peeps till about day 4 by then im already not fit to go into public. them shadow people i saw a kid in my tv when it was off ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ


stim newbie by Edwin Snodfield - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 21:57:54 EST ID:BmG2TOqH No.282801 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have about 30mg worth (2) adderal pills that have the orange beads. I don't have adhd (college fag here) and my tolerance to d-amphetamine is practically non-existent.

Are the beads tamper proof? I want to mix these with water and shove it up my ass. If I do so will I get a dope rush?

Not comparable to IV meff but close to cocaine, right?
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Rebecca Fanway - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:53:19 EST ID:w6NcnYfL No.282862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't inject it. The binders will destroy you. There's a medical deal called "Ritalin lung", basically the tiny particles of silica and other binders block capillaries in your lungs, killing off large portions, and you end up with emphysema.
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Cornelius Cibberstock - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:56:36 EST ID:KI6ZqHHM No.282863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282862
Yeah talc will fuck you up if you don't use an appropriate wheel filter.
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Cyril Billingforth - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 16:57:53 EST ID:SxjBX/sr No.282893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282862
>>282813

I don't think you guys understand. Im plugging, not IVing
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Matilda Corryforth - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:34:58 EST ID:Zy6lW8Lm No.282895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282893
It's not all about you, Cyril
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CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 02:05:57 EST ID:TOIfMpK+ No.282917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>282848
Lots of good advice here. A few things:

>cut off the tip/smooth out the ending... This very matter of factly reduces the real chance of rupturing the membrane with the sharp tip.
What the hell kind of oral syringe are you buying? The tips come smooth from the factory. Chances are you'll only create sharp edges by trying to cut or reshape the tip. As long as you insert it slowly and pay attention to how it feels inside you, you won't tear anything.

However, cutting off the entire tip of the syringe could reduce waste during the plugging process, since it's impossible to get every droplet of water out of the tip when you push the plunger all the way in. So I'll let it slide.

Also, you'll have to dig in further than a couple inches to make sure there's no poop hangin' around. Things move. No matter how careful you are to keep the liquid within the bottom two inches of your rectum, a turd could still slide into home at the last minute and soak it up. But as long as you make yourself really nervous before plugging (maybe do some caffeine and nicotine) you should be able to shit out any "problem poop".

Wait, just... just one more thing. You can make this even more efficient. Let's get autistic about it, alright?
  • Before plugging the drug solution, fill a little plastic dosing cup (like pic related) with just a few mL of warm water and set it close to your plugging location.
  • Lay down and plug the drug solution in your syringe.
  • After you pull the empty syringe out of your hole, use it to suck up the water in the cup. Then flip the syringe upside down, pull the plunger out a tiny bit to get all the water at the bottom and air at the top, and push the plunger back up as far as you can without squirting out any water. Now suck up any droplets of water remaining in the cup and repeat the process of getting the air out of the syringe.
  • Plug the water you've just sucked up. This helps wash any remaining drugs out of the syringe and into your pooper.


need to study by Augustus Drammlebit - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 16:08:31 EST ID:And9v2WO No.282694 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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closest rc to adderall(Amphetamine)?
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Reuben Pickford - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 17:14:19 EST ID:CHp07v7X No.282696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
2-FA and 2-FMA
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Jarvis Pittdock - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:18:38 EST ID:wekdu4zE No.282912 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282694
Try 20-30mg 2-FMA. Redose if you need, but know it's long lasting. In most cases it's best to favour sleep.
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Jarvis Pittdock - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 19:19:12 EST ID:wekdu4zE No.282913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282912
s/best/better
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Lydia Duddlespear - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 22:31:59 EST ID:OLHCXloK No.282914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282913
>s/best/better
it was right the first time


When is ur heart in danger? by Emma Foshfet - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 21:27:11 EST ID:/XkJqFzu No.282672 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone else *know* they have a weaker heart from long-term amphetamine/stim use?

Furthermore, do any of you know of anyone personally who developed a serious heart condition and happened to be an amphetamine abuser? I've been doing it for about 3 years now, all darkweb speed (so differing in quality, though usually I try to get it from a certain vendor who is regarded as having the highest-quality amph sulfate powder on the 'net; if you know who I'm talking about, then you are in the know; his name is video game-themed). I historically only did it 1-2x/week generally, with multi-week/month breaks now & then. But when I did, it was certainly abuse territory, usually 40-60mg or even sometimes above).

A friend of mine was prescribed Adderall once upon a time and abused it sometimes as well, until one night he suddenly collapsed and went into cardiac arrest. Luckily, almost miraculously, he lived, but though the doctors couldn't determine the exact cause of his heart failure, he took it as a sign to go easy on the amp and eventually cut it out. Couple years later he did a good amount of coke while partying, and collapsed the following morning at work, paying another visit to the hospital.

Shit like that gives me pause, as I definitely feel like I've pushed it with my own heart - it almost feels hard in my chest, as if the squishy muscle fibers have shortened & tightened over time, or something. I still work out without much issue & everything, but I'm just not sure how much is too much when it comes to amp. Anyone have experience with this?
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Cedric Hizzlenut - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:36:38 EST ID:Cx0fajIP No.282721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282672
Yup. My buddy had 4 heart attacks last year alone, and he continues to do coke everyday.

Other friend had a heart attack right after taking a full bong hit of meth.
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Beatrice Foshsodging - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 11:54:20 EST ID:0Zrw88gU No.282750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woBi6qL1dcM this drug did it to me, the cocaine.
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Nell Chirryture - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:43:31 EST ID:r3WWAm7o No.282908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If ur scared Buy a dog
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Nell Chirryture - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:43:31 EST ID:r3WWAm7o No.282909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If ur scared Buy a dog
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Hamilton Fingerwutch - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 12:17:51 EST ID:yEA6v4Vn No.282911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My heart feels sore. And the areas around it like I've been working out I often stretch it to no avail I've had a doctor listen once randomly at a check up she said I likely pulled a muscle, maybe jerking my head as a twitch when I'm too geeked. Apparently our shoulders aren't supposed to come in towards our chest, but all under there in my arm pit and ribs seem like muscles are rebuilding. Not sure if it's like, my corroded artery or something but definitely concerns me. Gets worse when I smoke dope I noticed, maybe something I do when i smoke that causes it. Who fucking knows I don't like it though. Been on Adderall 11 years, too


Whats your guys take on 3-FPM by David Honeyfuck - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 07:52:06 EST ID:FvjzTrCt No.282910 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I may buy some, just want to know how the effects are and if online reviews arn't bullshit review accounts. I'm looking for an adderal XR effect, how comparable is 3-FPM to adderal XR?


Cocaine abroad by Nicholas Blythegold - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 18:55:01 EST ID:4BNhlW6x No.282906 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey ya'll,

Me and my girl will be spending two weeks in France/Germany for our holiday (I'm based in the states). I'm no stranger to darknet protocols, and I've got lots of experience moving stuff on domestic flights.

That also being said, I'm more wary of international customs. I'm considering ordering stuff to be sent to my destination. Has anyone has experience shipping to hotels/hostels/AirBnBs? Am I better off shipping to a PO box or the like? Or do you think I should try to smuggle it aboard the plane?


Cocaine by Coke - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 11:56:28 EST ID:w1/MSqr/ No.282904 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Went out and got very very drunk with my friends who do coke last night. One of them got me to try it for the first time while I was I'm pretty sure blacked out. Its now 9 am and I haven't slept and I feel amazing. And I'm pretty sure this is the only place I can express that at this time.
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Edward Blytheford - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:07:50 EST ID:YDlgGfYn No.282905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know exactly what u are talking about. feeling like a million bucks at 9am after bunch of drinks painting the town red. Now go get some food and get some more blow.


Adderall amounts by Lydia Turveyville - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 18:48:35 EST ID:eh0FmXHP No.282767 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How many mg do you usually take for one session? Does 10mg offer a decent effect?
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 13:50:57 EST ID:iLs4yUpO No.282890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282767

For non-rec uses, back in the undergrad days I would start with somewhere around 7.5-10mg IR or 10-15mg XR when using Adderall. 30mg oral was a bit too much, and 30mg plugged was perfect for rec value.

Now I take d-amph, which is essentially 1.33x as strong as Adderall mg for mg. 20mg is the bare minimum to really feel it after 2-4 days of dosing in a row (equal to ~26.67mg of Adderall roughly).

Just figure out what works for you. I'm not really a stimulant guy, and they're very hard on my body, mind, appetite, and insomnia. Use the smallest dose that works. This stuff is not healthy long term, so logically the least amount that can get the job done is best.

When you say "session," what's the purpose of your session? Homework? Jerking off? Partying whilst drinking/smoking bud and wanting to stay awake?
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Albert Bedgelotch - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 14:59:11 EST ID:HQDs+WX3 No.282891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282890

I hope he doesn't mean jerking it. Comedown is bad enough without having depleted more neurotransmitters and fucked your hormone levels up by fapping. I'm not one of those NoFap warriors but spending hours upon hours pleasuring yourself takes a toll.
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Nathaniel Blackgold - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:23:20 EST ID:eh0FmXHP No.282892 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>282890

Homework, personal projects.

And the adderall doesn't seem to be doing anything for me. I have ADHD and I've been taking 10mg tablet once a day but i'm not getting positive results. I tried 20mg one day and felt less focused than if I were sober.

>>282891

I honestly have no desire to jerk when I'm on adderall.
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Fuck Lightridge - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 07:24:48 EST ID:i4rS1pum No.282900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282892
same... but if you watch some porn u like well its easy to get horny as fuq
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Hocus pocus - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:27:48 EST ID:v3PjrQYC No.282903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Did 270 mgs in one sitting


OD on Meth? by Thomas Fubblelodging - Mon, 08 May 2017 03:44:52 EST ID:MXHlcB2a No.279349 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /stim/,

A buddy I know apparently accidentally ingested about a gram in meth across 4-5 meth brownies. My buddy does not use meff often so this, to me, was extremely surprising. The dude actually ended up having a psychotic breakdown and had to be hospitalized for about a week. I visited him while he was in the psych ward and he was saying weird shit about transdimentional demons trapezoidally morphing into tombstones located on the moon and worshipped by the rich.

Needless to say, I was freaked the fuck out. I thought ODing on meth required much higher doses?

My buddy has never really been the same. He had to quit his job and can barely read anymore.
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Hamilton Sunkinwater - Sun, 12 Nov 2017 10:29:11 EST ID:5Fi1Q81v No.282821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282799
Yeah I don't agree with this. When I would give meth to whores for disgusting depraved sex they always wanted to eat it as opposed to snorting and it would last longer and have their eyes shaking like crazy and I fucked them till they puked
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Eugene Brookham - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:14:16 EST ID:Cx0fajIP No.282833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282821
Consuming it orally will REALLY fuck you up. I know a girl who got multiple stomach /throat lacerations after eating one really sharp edged shard
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Albert Changerston - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 09:02:35 EST ID:Zy6lW8Lm No.282837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282833
That seems really improbable. I'd believe it could happen from contaminants, but not from "a sharp shard". Even if that were true you could just mix it into a glass of water. Surely it would do a number on your nose snorting it if it were really down to how sharp the crystals are?
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Caroline Dondlenen - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:13:08 EST ID:tKytNL/i No.282841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you’re going to make methibles, ALWAYS remember to thoroughly crush your meth. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard of a sharp piece cutting somebodys throat, mouth, or tongue.
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Hannah Blackman - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 01:59:19 EST ID:Cx0fajIP No.282898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>282841
lol i can't agree more


BWS StimLioness Re-Rising by StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Mon, 07 Aug 2017 01:30:47 EST ID:UdgHIK3m No.281116 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old BWS stopped bumping so I'm gonna take it upon myself to kick off the new one. First StimLioness BWS in a hot min!

Hittin the bub with a fat puddle of a previously beautiful crystal built up dense af and listening to Danny Brown.

I fucking love this drug and I'm so glad I came back here to this board and to stims instead of just wasting money on heroin, which don't get me wrong feels amazing, but it's not as good as meth for what I want in my drug experiences. /opi/ isn't a fan of me, but ya'll give me so much love and I love ya'll back!

Get high with me! <3
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Caroline Pinnerhore - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:16:59 EST ID:lFpeLz29 No.282901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>282899
>talks shit about terrible human beings
>Likes Scrubs
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Hocus pocus - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:04:22 EST ID:v3PjrQYC No.282902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stimmed and watching this
http://www.liveme.com/media/liveshort/dist/?videoid=15110134033344324177&area=A_US&countryCode=US&topDown=1&kid=2&s=929109530065764352&shareto=Snapchat
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Fuck Fushville - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:02:14 EST ID:vRnpTn6k No.282907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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34mg 2-FA, a day of stimming and gaming. Maybe having a beer or two soon as it winds down.
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sober - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:24:06 EST ID:v3PjrQYC No.282916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
@StimLioness hmu with some paypal im feeeninnn
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Oliver Pabblechedge - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 10:07:43 EST ID:2sUczZih No.282928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281718

Im pretty new to meth ive found it makes me incredibly horny but its almost impossible to get hard when im really buzzed. Getting my cock sucked when im spun feels 1000x better than any other bj ive ever had but my cock is soft 90% of the time.

The first time my friend got me tweaked and sucked me it felt so amazing i didnt even realize. I really thought i was hard as a rock til he said something about it. Hes got me spun 3 times since then and sometimes ill randomly get hard for a little while but its not connected to how good it feels at all. Same deal the couple times ive smoked by myself and tried to jerk off.

Does anyone have any advice on what i can do to get and stay hard?


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