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activated almonds by Hedda Dammlechane - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 04:35:05 EST ID:dW4daDMD No.281579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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could someone explain to me the appeal of hard liquor and stims?

I keep hearing this is an extremely common/fun combo

thoughts?
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Edwin Bliffingridge - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 16:33:57 EST ID:9kTZ7iaV No.281581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281579
Coke by itself kind of sucks, imo. It is too edgy and paranoid when done alone.

Booze wears that edge off and keeps things fun and light. Makes the comedown better too. I enjoy meth/amphetamines without booze, tho- they don't mix as well in my personal experience.
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Reuben Drurrywot - Sun, 03 Sep 2017 05:21:02 EST ID:18C543Dv No.281582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i personally dont care for the combo, but people like it because booze generally makes people lazy, tired, sluggish, low energy, etc. so people add stims to keep the intoxication and uninhibited feels of alch but also staying awake and with more energy, allowing in turn more alcohol to be consumed
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asuka - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 13:14:42 EST ID:BN6arnzd No.281623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the sort of evening out effect that people mention (you can drink more when you do coke or stims, but you eventually get drunker than you thought you were so you do some more stims to even it out, making you more awake and feeling great and more uninhibited, but you gotta take the edge off with a drink) is def a big factor, I know that I enjoy coke more as an accent than I do in itself, personally I enjoy coke with benzos the most, the classic combo of 4-5mg clonazepam underneath a bunch of booze and coke is a great, great combo

also cocaethylene is a big part of this, which is why you see a lot of people who don't do coke at all without booze; even like, huge cokeheads may always drink with their coke. it's more cardiotoxic but who gives a shit lol

just like, generally, alcohol can be very social and is relatively cheap and incredibly abundant, and while there are plenty of groups who accept alcohol but not stims, I've yet to really meet people who're into stims who would balk at someone drinking around them. so, the booze comes out sooner or later.
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 17:52:05 EST ID:krT4oY0I No.281627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281579

Heart toxicity mostly, with a side of "I don't do any other drugs so this combo will do"

>not taking xanax/etizolam+coke and avoiding toxicity all together
>not euphoric enough? do coke+cLam
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Sidney Clottingfoot - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 23:57:05 EST ID:4N9qWPbK No.281632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>281627
Not true.
Most of Cocaine cardiotoxicity comes from its activity as a local anaesthetic, which makes it hard for the heart muscles to contract and communicate as they do normally. The stimulation (which Etiz/Xanax could indeed lower somewhat) that it also causes compound the damage, but such a combo will not eliminate cardiotoxicity and can cause its own unique heart issues as well. You can't just take an upper and a downer and get to neutral if that's what you're thinking, it's just not that simple.
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Matilda Dricklecocke - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:04:48 EST ID:Zy6lW8Lm No.281639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281632
Pretty sure the upper + downer thing is a myth. Benzos are basically the first line treatment in stimulant overdose.
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Matilda Dricklecocke - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:10:05 EST ID:Zy6lW8Lm No.281640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281639
Though I guess that may just mean that the risk of combining benzos with stimulants is less than stimulant overdose, not that it's risk free.
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Polly Chunkincocke - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:06:10 EST ID:4N9qWPbK No.281642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>281640
They do often give things like IV lorazepam or similar in cases of stimulant overdose, but it's primarily to help with agitation or psychotic symptoms (though it can help a bit with hbp). They give other things like beta blockers for the heart issues.

Instead of just being equalized by a + and a -, what happens is the heart basically gets confused, because on one hand its being told to go full speed ahead, and the other to slow down, but that message isn't necessarily synchronized to result in normal heart rate. The result of that can be a dysrhythmia or in a really extreme case, heart failure. Its also different when you are talking about Cocaine because of the anaesthetic effect I mentioned before which is dangerous for the heart regardless of heart rate or pressure, though the higher those go, the more bonus damage you may rack up.
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Edwin Hellerhood - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 22:00:49 EST ID:Aadmb+8o No.281645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Takes away the nervous jittery feeling and allows you to do more of both to your liking.

It isn't nearly as great as opi + stim but still fires off the dopamine receptors like crazy.
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Barnaby Grimhall - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 10:21:22 EST ID:XeltD4ZL No.281653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
try it for yourself, you'll see
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Isabella Punningwater - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 08:21:05 EST ID:n8QMMRY8 No.281664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds like a recipe for some mad spins, man, but I always smoke that Ganj so who knows - maybe it's not the same for you.

I've mixed in low doses and bleh - a small amount does very little, and any amount significant enough to yield effect shits all over the stimulant, thoroughly, and then the hangover slaps on additional fatigue. If I want to induce total loss of inhibition and kill stim anxiety I'll take a benzodiazepine dosed juuuuust right, at a low/low-moderate dose they negate the stimulant effects minimally and produces the desired, uninhibited state.

If you want the roaring euphoria of a heavy state of alcohol inebriation while on stims I will say to you this: the pit goes on forever
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Shitting Sablingfuck - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:42:43 EST ID:OWDTyhe0 No.281717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>281627

Benzos are not the same as alcohol. Xanax + coke? cLam?
Another stupid tripfag.

Alcohol and stims are fun but it depends on the situation and your taste in drugs.
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Sophie Dollydig - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:16:01 EST ID:vKAn7vHw No.281732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>281579
I like booze. I like stims.

Together? Even more.


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