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Fn-Ctrl swap by DavidPuckleduck.avi - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:55:29 EST ID:aE3PAVME No.120939 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I recently found out that Thinkpads have official support for swapping Fn and Ctrl keys, putting Ctrl where it should be on the edge of the keyboard. Older Thinkpads have third party firmware hacks and some Thinkpads and Macbooks (the only other laptops with the Fn key in the wrong place) have some unofficial support for this in software. I don't remember the last time I was this happy about something so stupid. I guess I hit Ctrl way more than I realized.
ElizaClemblewell.mdl - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:11:25 EST ID:YIcsAc7T No.120948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If I am not wrong, I gave growled about Ctrl placement. So when I see a thinkpad,
I kinda hate it from square on. Thanks for your observation
ElizaClemblewell.mdl - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 01:14:30 EST ID:YIcsAc7T No.120949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
h have g gave

AMD Ryzen by FuckGankinway.scr - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 20:19:29 EST ID:Mw0E3xZ0 No.120684 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So what do you guys make of the hype? There's only a few more hours before the review embargos lift and we'll finally get to see independent benchmarks. I'm really hoping AMD can pull of what they're promising because the Dekstop CPU market has been pathetic these last few years and this will really shake things up if the gains AMD is claiming prove true.
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CharlottePembleshit.dic - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 23:44:01 EST ID:Mw0E3xZ0 No.120940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, but for around $180, that's a shit load of money for just two physical cores. The Devil's Canyon Pentium made sense because you could get it for as low as $45 but the i3 7350k is asinine at almost $200+ the cost of cooling it to achieve a high-enough overclock to make it worthwhile. The whole purpose of a desktop is that it can do more than just browse the web and play simple games and if that's all you want to do, then you have plenty of sub-$200 (for the whole system, not just the CPU) options like the Nvidia Shield TV or other Android platforms that perform those functions just as well.

The 7350k is a sucker's choice for people who think they're savvy and getting a great deal on something that excels at the tasks they need it specifically for but in reality, it's a terrible value proposition for that scenario and it's severely limiting the potential to do anything more complex on your computer than what a fucking cellphone can do. Just spend the extra $20 and get the i5 7500 or a R5 1600 and if you can't afford that, Just go with the G4560. If I could run most Wii games on Dolphin at 60fps on a god damn Phenom II back in the day, a 3.5ghz Kaby Lake part will not have any issues with emulators, I guarantee it. There is no reason to ever buy a two-core processor for more than $100 in 2017. EVER! Once again, DO NOT buy an i3 7350k, it's a stupid product for stupid people.
EbenezerBlashstet.pif - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 00:57:18 EST ID:aE3PAVME No.120941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think your Phenom II would struggle with BSNES and your 3.5GHz 4C Kaby Lake would strugle with Cemu. Why do you have so much sand in your vagina about someone seeing valuing single threaded speed over core count? If the chip isn't for you, don't buy it and move on with your life?
CharlottePembleshit.dic - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 09:58:47 EST ID:Mw0E3xZ0 No.120944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Higan is a horrendously inefficient (yeah, I know they're going for 100% accuracy but there comes a point where "good enough" is good enough and you can play 99% of all SNES games accurately enough on 1/100th the power it takes to run Higan on Snes9X) and CEMU is still in early development and they only way to get it up to decent speeds is brute force and even then it's optimized to run on 3 threads so you'll still be better off with a moderately clocked 4 core part rather than a high-clocked 2 core part with hyperthreading.

My whole point is that for what little the 7350k can do, it's overkill for the job because the added clock speed won't make it vastly superior to a cheaper part like the G4560 that can get the job done in a "good enough" manner. The extra $100 you're investing in just the 7350k, combined with the requirement of the high-end Z mobo it takes to overclock it as well as a decent cooler will bring you up to around $400 for the whole package (not including RAM, GPU, Storage, or any peripherals) versus $150 or so for the Pentium system. The extra 20% performance simply isn't worth the extra 160% cost it takes to get there. This is what makes it such a lousy value proposition. What's worse is you can get a system based off an i5 7500 with a lower end mobo (since you're not overclocking it) with a stock cooler for less than $350 and you'll have nearly identical single-threaded performance with significantly improved multi-threaded performance. Not only can you build a comparable Pentium system for significantly less but you can actually build a better i5 system for less. The cost of the i3 7350k makes no sense by any metric

What's putting sand in my vagina is that you're ignorantly giving extremely bad advice based on a self-defeating premise that it's okay to waste money on performance you'll never see. I'm sorry that the Sub-$200 CPU market is so fucked but the i3 7350k isn't the magic CPU it appears as on paper. When you start factoring in what else you can buy and the high-end parts that i3 requires to take advantage of it's overclockability, the 7350k just loses all of its appeal…
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EbenezerBlashstet.pif - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 11:04:20 EST ID:aE3PAVME No.120945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not reading all that you sad little man. I'm sorry that poor marginal value raped your mother and burned your house down, but the fact is the 7350K is the cheapest way to get the fastest single threaded performance and there's nothing left to say.
GeorgeBlatherfoot.pl - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 23:59:35 EST ID:Mw0E3xZ0 No.120947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, you buy a used, unlocked i5 for $150 or less and overclock the piss out of it. That's the cheapest way to get the "fastest single threaded performance". end of story. Maybe if you're paying MicroCenter prices, I could see the temptation but at close to $200, the high clock speed isn't enough to make it compelling.

You might as well be arguing that somebody should buy an Ariel Atom as their daily commuter because " it's the cheapest, fastest way to go around the nurburgring". Yes, it's does what it claims to do in a very specific, niche context but you're sacrificing a whole lot of general usability for the sake of top-end performance that will go largely wasted due to the bottlenecks caused by its core count. If all you want to do is browse the web and play old games, buy a cheaper part. If you want a well-rounded machine for more complex, modern tasks, buy a different part with more cores and less hertz, and if you need the most performance you can get and money is an issue for you, buy used. Don't waste money on a niche product that over-performs in one area and under-performs in another key area. Please take your bad advice somewhere else.

Computer randomly shuts off by WilliamSiblingpidge.pm5 - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:15:39 EST ID:XOvK6E1h No.120932 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Windows 8.1, Samsung NP770Z7E-S01PL laptop (shit series, would not recommend, you will kill yourself trying to maintain it).

Problem: computer randomly shuts off. To be more exact, happened while gaming. I had a gaming session of 3-4 hours. I thought something might be overheating, so I opened my laptop, cleaned everything, dusted off with canned air, replaced thermal paste. Nothing really changed, the GPU and CPU maintain a maximum temp of ~90 degrees (the laptop CPUs maximum maintainable temp is 115 degrees, like wtf). I don't think the problem is overheating, because then I wouldn't have been able to play for that much time without crashing?

I heard a thing about no pagefile being the cause of this, so thinking of giving it a try.

Any ideas? All drivers up-to-date. What else?
DavidPuckleduck.avi - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 15:27:49 EST ID:aE3PAVME No.120933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If it's shutting off and not crashing, it's probably thermal or an electrical fault of some kind. That's definitely not what happens when you run out of memory on Windows and it's unlikely to be a driver unless the driver has something to do with power. Check the event viewer to see what Windows has to say.
WilliamSiblingpidge.pm5 - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:04:13 EST ID:XOvK6E1h No.120934 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I will let you know today/tomorrow.
LydiaBlickletutch.avi - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:51:06 EST ID:PUbnWT1r No.120942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it overheats, 100% obvious. No blue screen or nothing, so it's either an electrical problem (its shutting off to save itself from electrical damage eg. surges or shorts) or overheating. 7 out of 10 laptops will shut down after 4 hours of gaming, thats not unusual. They're not meant for gaming, they have horrible heat distribution. Even if it stays 90c most of the time (for laptops thats mid-high range, not even THAT high), when it jumps to 100+ for a couple of moments because the game is stressing it more for a particular reason (lots of effects, enemies for a couple of moments will cause the temps to skyrocket instantly), it shuts down to save itself.
My advice would be do not game on a laptop except very lightweight games, which should be fucking common sense. Even a gaming laptop is bad for gaming. Laptops aren't made for demanding games.
LydiaBlickletutch.avi - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 08:55:25 EST ID:PUbnWT1r No.120943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also you would be able to game for 3-4 hours even if it overheated, becaues temps jump a lot already, one millisec there's a 100% load on the CPU, the other it's just 25%..., that's about the time it takes for the fans to give up because by that time the whole body of the laptop will be heated across, after a few hours of gaming it'll be like if you were using your laptop in the desert sun. I'm just saying shutting off after longer periods of gaming is a very typical issue for laptops, I've had it happen to me a million times, I've seen it happen a million times, it's a thermal defense shutdown 99.99% of the time..
BeatriceDundleham.eml - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 16:16:52 EST ID:XOvK6E1h No.120946 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Ya, but I have this laptop for 5 years now and the shutdowns started some months ago, so what gives?

P.S. Fuck this laptop for the shitty BIOS control, I can't even access the fan speeds.

Ideas if overheating? Do I need to replace the fans (even tho they're working)? Or maybe replace the heatsink?

Modestocomputerino by Something Forgotten - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 18:55:17 EST ID:2MAc9K/k No.120937 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Last time I was around a good computer was when Nvidia released the 290GTX and it's time I made myself a good station. In my extended absence, I didn't focus on parts, hype, and etcetera - thus, I've fallen behind.

The PC I'm trying to build is intended for streaming, gaming, rendering, and recording while keeping a low temperature. I am not trying to go all out either and I'm trying to be around the price of 2k. I can go higher or lower, just don't want to if it's avoidable.

I was thinking of having a SSD hub station or something like divided drives for separate programs to write on so the CPU doesn't have to look through a 1TB C drive while accessing DLLs.

Don't want to be extravagant, just a modest build that can do gaming on a game like Black Desert Online or Rainbow Six Siege, while recording and streaming that can also do great while rendering.

And if you guys got any tips for coolant, show me the way. Trying to get a clear view in today's market... So many people trying to shove things in my face. Feels like I'm an altar boy.
DavidPuckleduck.avi - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 19:31:19 EST ID:aE3PAVME No.120938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you don't want to think too hard you can just copy someone else's build: https://pcpartpicker.com/guide/

If you want to be analytical, start with your core component performance requirements. Most people just look at a few benchmarks, pick out the few things they know they want, and then just buy whatever is on sale. Unless you're pushing up against some constraint, don't overthink it.

want to create a trailer or compilation with hitfilm by Lemming Probe - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 01:38:58 EST ID:MAhnZRBl No.120903 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to create a more or less professional trailer and compilation of my gaming and travel-footage.
>downloaded Hitfilm because everyone keeps gushing about it
>all tutorials seem to cover CGI, greenscreen and other bullshit
>simple beginner tutorials 5 hours long

Isn't there a simple step-by-step guide to create something similar to this
in one YT-video somewhere?!

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Freakin Eyelazorz - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:54:43 EST ID:8+gHEJPF No.120919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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show me an auto-editing-software thats able to do this:
ArchieDruggleman.dun - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 20:46:08 EST ID:p6545IKk No.120920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Glitches were played out 10 years ago. As much as I do want to see your sick Battlefield montage, I hope you never make it.
Minority Resort - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 16:42:51 EST ID:Cjy+pFo0 No.120925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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most start-ups and other companies just buy preset templates and only fill in the blanks.
So yes: They are editing without any training.

>thinks glitch-effects in video-editing appears only in videogames.
Dude... you need to get off 420chan more.
Feryymongol Jerpturping - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 04:35:41 EST ID:jVMPiFxU No.120926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>me working with Corel Ulead 8 for a very long time
>got an old PC but still could work without any performance-issues
>installed community-updates and made some stuff ranging from pretty average to fucking awesome years of work
>had to get a new PC and new OS at some point
>Ulead incompatible
>got a newer Version of Ulead, it worked slow like a drunken snail on dope
>Sony Vegas couldn't handle simple files like MP4, flv or avi
>Adobe Premiere worked even slower, clocked my GPU and CPU
>got Hitfilm Express for free, runs like a charm but has very limited After-Effects options and is convoluted like a freaking year work of quantum phsysics at time!

>HF doesn't even have the option or the community to share projects!
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AugustusDrivingtare.pm6 - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 16:36:06 EST ID:NhDLVJnx No.120930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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wtf is it with these bullshit dystopian DRM-methods in recent artists-software anyway?

Someone pissed in their starbucks-coffee?!

LinkedIn? by PhoebeClenninglet.sgml - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:42:22 EST ID:fVWGPSRj No.120864 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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4 months with a stupid CS degree and no job.

I don't like Social Media, but I've been recommended from websites + friends to set up a LinkedIn profile.

What do you guys think? Anyone succumbed to it?
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WilliamShakeman.tga - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:52:30 EST ID:ud0uGBxZ No.120900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Indeed and Monster are good sites for finding jobs.
BarnabyGandernidge.rtf - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 23:56:07 EST ID:sTImaIHN No.120902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not CS, in /chem/.

I got around 10-15 phone interviews and 3-4 in person interviews through linkedin. No takers so far.

Really frustrating. But I've gotten better prospects from Linkedin than anywhere else. Most places I've applied to without representation result in, "Thank you for applying, we will reach out if our employment demands change. Good luck on your search."

Maybe I'm just a terrible interviewer. I dunno.

Would you guys recommend a Master in CS? I've been studying for the GRE since being unemployed. Did well in fortran, never really looked at it otherwise.

And is C++/Java+Python worth studying?
BadWulf - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:37:09 EST ID:8Vhgh6zO No.120927 Ignore Report Quick Reply

This guy is mostly right but I would say that LinkedIn is useful exactly because HR people don't know shit and use LinkedIn to find people.

My wife looked for work all summer after graduating with her undergrad in CS. Come august she finally setup her LinkedIn crap and got a bunch of interviews and found a good software development job that she has enjoyed and worked at for the last year.

LinkedIn is very useful for small companies.

That being said I've never used it myself. I work in R&D at the doctoral level in a very niche field so I don't look for work, work looks for me.

Anyway, finding jobs is a playing probabilities as well. If you assume that you have some small chance with every application, sending out a large number of applications nearly assures that you will find something assuming you wrote your resume/CV/application reasonably well.

I came here for porn, why am I replying to people about jobs?
BadWulf - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:49:39 EST ID:8Vhgh6zO No.120928 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If you want to get an MS, i.e., with a thesis then you will need to know what you want to research in advanced. At least the field that is. No graduate program will take you seriously if you aren't adamant about what you want to work on.

If you want to get an MCS, i.e., coursework only, then by all means go for it. This could be a great opportunity for you to spread your wings. It will cost you however.

Rather than studying a specific language I suggest learning more about computer science in general, algorithms, complexity theory, data structures etc. These concepts transcend language and indeed will need to be known regardless of which are you working with.
CorneliusSeddleham.sea - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:12:59 EST ID:gP03tV2f No.120929 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I came here for porn, why am I replying to people about jobs?

I lol'd hard. Guess you lost your way??

Looking For A New Phone by Zaku Kashaku - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 18:47:47 EST ID:rMLLIcCQ No.120852 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've had a Galaxy S5 for about a year now and its done me great up until a few days ago. the screen is cracked as well as majorly fucking up.

I dont need such a big phone that isnt comfortable to use with one hand. I'm looking for something with a smaller screen with the same performance or greater than the s5. something that isnt slow in 2017 and can handle everyday apps just fine for around $200

What would you guys reccomend? and is the iPhone 5s still good today for the money?
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ElizaDrammlenet.cdt - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 20:25:54 EST ID:PUbnWT1r No.120854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>good for the money
thats the point. iPhones are good, but they're ridiculously bad for the money.
Zaku Kashaku - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 20:29:26 EST ID:rMLLIcCQ No.120855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ok well what do you consider better phones for $200 in 2017?
CorneliusBrerringham.pl - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 23:38:35 EST ID:ccxxtE/u No.120856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Really want a small phone? Buy a used iPhone 5S or SE but definitely try one out first because 4 inches is tiny. Want a cheap sidegrade? Buy a used Nexus 5 or LG G3. Want something comparable and new and/or small for $200? Doesn't exist.
ErnestTootgold.icm - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 17:31:53 EST ID:zwx88pA5 No.120860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They're also $700 unsubsidized.

I save $35 a month by using an old Galaxy S4 out of contract it cost me 85 bucks. Probably the oldest bitchin' phone you can get. No official VR support but the screen is still nice.
BetsySopperfield.lsp - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 03:34:35 EST ID:b7brG/2P No.120924 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got an LG G4 for 209 aud on ebay including shipping.

Archiving/saving a vBulletin forum by BarnabyWorthingford.pif - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 00:17:43 EST ID:+XB9/9Yx No.120921 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I run a community built on SMF that originated and split off from a vB community. The latter is on the outs due to the corporation that owns it having a shit business plan and not being able to maintain it. I have the feeling the site is going to disappear sooner rather than later and I was wondering if anybody here knows of some way to archive the content/posts/etc in such a way that I could integrate them either into my own community or another entirely, whether built on vB software or otherwise.

tl;dr, is it possible to "copy" content from a vB forum without having access to the database? if so, how?
ArchieDruggleman.dun - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:00:55 EST ID:p6545IKk No.120922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Scraping the forum to make a static copy is hard enough but possible. Trying to migrate the posting history to some other system without database access is something you should forget about.
BarnabyWorthingford.pif - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 02:27:48 EST ID:+XB9/9Yx No.120923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah, saving it as static isn't really an issue, i've got a tool someplace i can use for that so i may just do it.

I had seen/used a script some years ago for zetaboard that basically crawled the forum and generated a database using the publicly visible information (usernames, posts, forum structure, etc), had hoped there was something similar out there for this specific scenario. Drat.

MantisVPN - Protect your digital footprint by MantisVPN - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 16:08:41 EST ID:zc/VqxUC No.120894 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Beta testers needed. If your interested email [email protected]
NicholasGiddlecocke.mar - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:19:34 EST ID:FtUa1Cfw No.120898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
seems legit
NellLightforth.dev - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:07:13 EST ID:rpbmbTvt No.120904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yea, Sounds like these people are trying to get their services very much finalized, if not actually there already.
Just need a larger user base.

Some services overdo the, 'privacy danger thing' to get people, scare them essentially to use their service.
"ultimate privacy'

A VPN should work as designed, with it's intended uses. Privacy, anti-gov-censorship, corporate,
business usage, basic vpn service, etc.

Talked with them before this popped up. Something different.

No reason not to just get (pay) a months service to use the service instead of asking for beta testing usage.

They are just trying to ultimately succeed in this and no reason why it should not.
EstherFummerbury.pm6 - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:51:54 EST ID:0312Yx4S No.120914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
remember mantis on M-TV
MantisVPN - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 10:25:28 EST ID:pF/jq1J3 No.120917 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I just want to say thanks for the positive feedback!

New PC by ShittingDazzlebere.pub - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 03:57:15 EST ID:+Xmcn279 No.120915 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm building a new PC.
It's purpose is gaming.
Actually it's secondary purpose is gaming.
It's primary purpose is digital illustration.
But my classmates all said Adobe CC sucks.
So I thought okay F(uck) that.
I need to buy Adobe Illustrator and Adobe Photoshop CS6.
However I can't find it.
I want them and I don't want to pirate them.
So what do I do?
IsabellaBlimmerman.cpp - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 05:19:12 EST ID:vsAOdj9g No.120916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Let me make the case for pirating C

  1. You don't pay through the nose for something that's half a decade out of date.
  2. You don't give the Cloud Jew any money.
  3. It's super easy. Just download whatever you want directly from Adobe, install it, and use AMTEmu to crack the installation. Look on Leddit for a detailed howto if you can't figure it out.
  4. Your classmates probably don't have informed opinions.
SimonTrotfuck.cfml - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 21:35:13 EST ID:v8nK9OCk No.120918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like your solution.

huh? by HamiltonDondlelidge.aif - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 06:42:54 EST ID:DgSe+e9x No.120891 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i clicked a search engine link to a page discussing medicine. the page loaded and this is what appeared. did anything happen to my computer?
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EugeneCrazzlesetch.clp - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:33:53 EST ID:obhuQ5Y7 No.120895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Surely you aren't or cannot possibly be the be-all spokesperson for the 'none of us' actually use a certain software. As in, ya operating system and software hall-monitor. The only us is basically the U in us.
WalterSobberwock.dun - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 04:49:55 EST ID:PUbnWT1r No.120896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't even reply to a comment on a fucking imageboard cunt, fuck outta here with that bullshit. No one in their right mind uses Safari.
JennyCunningtatch.eps - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 10:40:14 EST ID:nKml5Jml No.120908 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Safari's not so bad. I think it's the only major browser that turns off 3rd party cookies by default. You should stop with the knee-jerk hate. Apple's not so bad if you're choosing between Google, MS, and Apple.
NellGinkinhall.doc - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 21:33:27 EST ID:gP03tV2f No.120910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In all fairness. Safari does really suck ass.
EstherFummerbury.pm6 - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:17:34 EST ID:0312Yx4S No.120913 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking at it's history it's been around a long time. I have used it in recent times. Seems my associates use it, or firefox as well. Saw nothing to make me dislike it to any extent to complain. KDE offers Conqueror web browser by default, it is not supported. I still use it when setting up systems if needed. Sucky browser? Call it Netscape
when everybody started to hate Netscape. Conqueror does work well in some systems though. But not for default usage. It will general freeze up if you give it some time.

Ubuntu moving to Gnome by SophieCavingbury.psp - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 16:45:03 EST ID:M7VxLFS8 No.120857 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Canonical has given up on Unity and Mir. Seems like good news for Linux, but does it signal the beginning of the end for Ubuntu?

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NigelClemblekurk.asp - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:13:49 EST ID:SmETnUvB No.120877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Distros aren't a suitable measure of fragmentation as distros are usually just different combinations of different software for the same purpose. There's really only two big desktop environments, GNOME and KDE. Canonical going solo with their own desktop environment AND window manager was a big fucking deal.
NigelClemblekurk.asp - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 23:18:40 EST ID:SmETnUvB No.120878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also that graphic is cool but misleading, Only Debian, Fedora/RedHat, Ubuntu, SuSe, Arch, and Gentoo really matter on that graph. Any DE that works on one will work on others. The idea of making a DE that probably only works on one of those was revolting.
BeatriceMurdfoot.csv - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:18:01 EST ID:Rt7JLrx3 No.120883 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Someone's already told you what's wrong about what you said... But off topic, I'd love to see that same graphic but with the reason for each distro. Just a quick "but with:" statement for each, like for Manjaro "arch but with: an installer and delayed software release"
NathanielFondlehood.xsl - Tue, 11 Apr 2017 12:18:53 EST ID:7F/QA+Tm No.120893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is bad, real bad.

Ubuntu tried with unity to provide a complete desktop experience with sensible default settings.
The global menu is a boon for anybody concerned about screen real-estate (13.3" laptops, etc...)
It has integration into things like cloud calendars, cloud storage, etc.
(some) touchpad & touchscreen gestures work right out of the box.
A consistent look and feel of applications that are part of the standard distribution (no ppas)
HiDPI scaling

If you want those features on for instance a Gnome desktop you can get them, but you basically have build your own configuration out of plugins and third party apps, which sucks balls.
FOSS software developers have a really questionable attitude when it comes to implementing default features and anything that works with proprietary systems. That was why Ubuntu/Unity was awesome, they didn't give a shit about the hypocritical "community" and just released stuff that works.
(ZFS on 16.04 is a another example, but unrelated)
GrahamDibblelene.mov - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:20:51 EST ID:wWsLeNFi No.120897 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Regardless of what else has happened, it's been nice with the Unity lovers coming out of the woodwork. Usually Linux people just talk about what they hate, not what they love.

At any rate, you should be fine. Gnome headerbars are just as space saving as global menu. We still don't know how Ubuntu will tweak gnome, but there's been global menu for gnome3 before, and it wouldn't take a lot for Canonical to do it again. Finally, if all else fails, the Unity devs haven't just dropped dead, they're committed to forking it.

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