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reactos other linux alternatives by ClaraPonningpidge.pol - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:46:39 EST ID:W2u+Rr9R No.120352 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'd like to get a bead on if you guys have any ideas of alternative operating systems other than GNU linux and all its derivatives. I find reactos to be one of the most promising because of the fact that it would come with a giant environment of programs and applications working. I know that its been being worked on for an extrodinary amount of time and its nowhere near done. But I love the idea of using windows without microsoft and its bs. Its made some real major strides forward that give it a chance to become usable within the next few years. Which is really exciting.

Now I've done quite a bit of looking around at operating systems. But I won't lie, I've only tried out linux distros, windows and osx. I haven't even used react os yet,.... it is still in alpha. But I know there's a lot more of them out there. Are there any that can become (even if its in the future) day to day viable?

What are your favorite alternative operating systems? What has the most promise for the future?
JennySmalllock.dat - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 17:04:10 EST ID:z/BBbDV3 No.120355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The various BSDs are nice and have good communities. ReactOS, BeOS, AmigaOS, and all the other niche OSes are largely just sad people chasing a software vision that is now old enough to drive. Any general purpose OS project without new ideas is as good as dead.
ErnestPicklock.pif - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 21:46:52 EST ID:ZaR8kP/O No.120356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty cool that ReactOS is still kicking. I figured it had vapored long ago. If you end up trying it, let us know your experience.

Don't forget about the OS ordained by God... no, not Hurd... TempleOS:

I used to use OS/2 back when it was trying to compete with win95. That was fun, and sometimes I want to install it on a VM just for nostalgia purposes
PhineasDizzlesitch.cgi - Sun, 01 Jan 2017 11:30:16 EST ID:gzqXKdFk No.120360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haiku OS is usable and development has resumed. It is compatible with BeOS and is supposed to run all the apps from BeOS as well as the programs that have grown up around it's development.

While some Gnu stuff has been ported to Haiku, it seems to be it's own universe.
NigelLightwell.dll - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 20:07:25 EST ID:rE4RFcL5 No.120377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Get with it, OP.


Johnny's Nightmare Boner by JackNicklehall.cbt - Tue, 03 Jan 2017 01:24:31 EST ID:gwBULvmS No.120368 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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PhineasBodgedudging.c - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 01:03:32 EST ID:W2u+Rr9R No.120432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well congratulations, I have no clue what the point of this five second video was op.

Windows Forensic Traces by GrahamDartwill.cpl - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:25:11 EST ID:E8lJOGQX No.120346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I found out about this cache that stores info about every executable you've run.

Do you all know of any other obscure ways in which forensic traces can be used against you?
JennySmalllock.dat - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 12:11:33 EST ID:z/BBbDV3 No.120351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Windows keeps a history of every volume you've ever mounted. There's so much to stay on top of in a modern system that you should just use disposable environments if it's something you're worried about.
ClaraPonningpidge.pol - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 15:48:35 EST ID:W2u+Rr9R No.120353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gonna come off dumb here. But how would someone use disposable environments in this sense? I'm a tad lost on this one.
JennySmalllock.dat - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 16:59:23 EST ID:z/BBbDV3 No.120354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can set up an encrypted VM, clone it as needed, and then destroy the clones when you're done. Qubes tries to make this painless.

Best Rootable Pre-Paid under $250 ? by burt jenkins - Tue, 06 Dec 2016 17:49:52 EST ID:1O0TxZaD No.120209 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Omg I hate my 29.99 net10 phone. The most voodoo piece of shit ever. I hate a fucking smartphone, oh god let me tell you. I need one though for all the reasons people be needing them. I rooted my whowhy once but, kinda done with cricket. Need one with a nice camera with good options, and and a nice video interface. I must root that fucker till it barely works, kill google , all google until only some feeble elements remain to still make it functional. Recommend me a phone please, and I would be really grateful. If it wasn't really difficult or awkward I'd even send you a free gift Thanks in advance, as us old timers like to say.

*** just needs a to be easily rootable with a decent community around it, and with good camera, and that's about it. Size doesn't matter too much. I like purty colors and simple intuitive interfaces, Needs no plan, and the option to not provide personal info is a nice plus.
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FuckingDrammerlut.eml - Sat, 10 Dec 2016 23:58:43 EST ID:GwBcgTFX No.120235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How would that be pre-paid or what service or what? Just too damn much phone info around for my doddering old Luddite drug addled brain.
ErnestBlaffingdock.eps2 - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 19:22:03 EST ID:qlIyOKSG No.120315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Brah get a Motorolla G. They are unlocked and easily rootable, tons of guides out there. It was great specs and a 13MP camera for $200USD. I've been wanting one for awhile.
CarolineClinkinspear.asm - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:42:05 EST ID:v+v+mgqL No.120321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know what you're asking, but it would be an unlocked phone and you would have to verify that your carrier would activate it and that it has cellular bands that would work well in your area (mostly a T-Mobile problem).

Nuh uh nigga that's gently used Nexus 5X money.
RebeccaBettingpidge.ppd - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 23:59:48 EST ID:GhCr3Kyu No.120345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just pick up an iphone 5 original thats clean
AliceBrushson.sys - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 09:32:47 EST ID:rShTRic5 No.120348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP Net10 will work on any unlocked phone. Go pick up a Galaxy S5 Active or used S6 and be done with all the trouble.

I work at a store that sells all sorts of prepaid phones and I for the life of me will never understand why these people keep coming back for this junk, when we sell unlocked Galaxy's and iPhones along with the SIM cards they need to use on the service. Of course I make better commission when I sell upgrades and new line promos so I don't always jump to that right away...

IBM/Lenovo Thinkpad Meme by WilliamShakebury.inf - Wed, 19 Oct 2016 22:38:14 EST ID:jRRfV/Fx No.119968 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why is the Lenovo/IBM Thinkpad so popular on various imageboards and forums?
What advantages does it have and why should buy or not buy one?
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ClaraNuzzlewell.fnt - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 23:58:17 EST ID:ZhUlthOT No.120336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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because they use them on the space station. DUH

posted from a thinkpad, with chinese backdoors whatever who cares
ErnestHocklespear.bin - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 16:29:00 EST ID:Sp5BjesC No.120339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thinkpad is sort of in the same position Apple is. They've built a really trusted brand over the years, but the writing is on the wall that it's just going to get worse because the money people are now running it... And they're trying to get all those marginal savings.

Fans are still loyal, because they're still reliable and the mis steps are new and they're being forgiven. Also there's no clear successor that's been chosen. But over the next several years I expect both companies to squander their brand for shortterm gains.

You're safe buying one now, but look up the model to make sure there aren't issues. Probably won't be a safe bet in 5 more years though.
HeddaDoddlekire.reg - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 03:10:33 EST ID:E8lJOGQX No.120340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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thinkpad master race reporting in
GeorgeNomblewag.api - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 11:16:53 EST ID:z/BBbDV3 No.120341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I recently bought an X230T, the last of the real Thinkpad tablets. If you're interested in such a beast, Fujitsu sells business convertibles complete with their own Ultrabay thing.
AlbertDrebbleson.pct - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:22:59 EST ID:W2u+Rr9R No.120343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I use an ideapad and for an underpowered netbook that was all I could afford at the time of buying it does really well. I've managed to fuck up the battery on it, but I get so much done on this thing even with the low specs. I play old games, I use the web, I stream things. The thing is you can play games on a low end laptop (people forget this) but they have to be low end games. If you're like me and get your kicks out of emulators and shit then there's not really that much of a downside of running a weak laptop like I have.

I mean sure I don't open 8 or 9 browser windows at once, I keep it to 3 or less. And I don't ask it to stream me radio while I'm editing photos and running games at the same time. But people forget the fact that a low end computer can really do a lot. Its the power user or someone who uses it really inefficantly that'll really really need a more powerful laptop, ya know.

/bst/ - Battlestation Thread by MarthaShittingspear.eps2 - Sun, 04 Dec 2016 20:54:55 EST ID:uyzdi65K No.120194 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Share your battlestations! Rate and hate the best and the worst!

Discord chat: https://discord.gg/QTdGgwh
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RebeccaDuckson.pm4 - Mon, 12 Dec 2016 00:21:02 EST ID:vYIc+dOc No.120242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck me that's a nice indoor garden
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aint nobody got time for a PDU
SamuelSoffingkotch.log - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 01:54:05 EST ID:5pt33QyB No.120307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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SophieDuffinglock.icl - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 18:28:48 EST ID:7AMAOW2Q No.120311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's to make it easy on the fire investigators after the system traffic peaks.
CarolineMallerfield.dll - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:40:22 EST ID:NTHMrxbW No.120342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wow look at that shit cable management

What to upgrade next? by SamuelSoffingkotch.log - Sun, 25 Dec 2016 23:29:08 EST ID:5pt33QyB No.120305 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm keen to upgrade something, but can't decide what...
If this was your rig, what would you upgrade next?
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EmmaGozzlemig.pm6 - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 07:59:36 EST ID:5pt33QyB No.120328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>120326 well.... Fuck. I never knew this until now :S upgraded the CPU to a Skylake processor (and mobo) about... a year ago? Have been running DDR3 RAM the whole time?? Will buy DDR3L tomorrow, hopefully 16gb over 2000ghz, that'll be my aim. I suppose that's the best I can do for now... Will upgrade CPU and mobo again in about 3 months, at which point I'll make the jump to DDR4

Wicked. Looking forward to my new GPU planning to game on a HD projector a little so I'm sure that'll put the 1070 to the test

Thanks all for your counsel. There's *always* something I've missed. Love this forum.
MartinPebblebon.ffo - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:00:49 EST ID:bFee7tEo No.120329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What's your audio setup like? Maybe ditch onboard and get a Schiit Stack or something.

Also, I thought DDR3 RAM bottomed out at 800mhz. How the fuck do you have a modern computer running RAM that slowly? Also also, doesn't Skylake use DDR4, wtf? seriously, this shit, I don't even.
PhineasWollytedging.rdo - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 10:24:55 EST ID:a80ZhppQ No.120330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's DDR, so he actually has 1333 RAM.
>Skylake use DDR4
Initially they had boards for both so people could reuse their old RAM.
Op - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 22:29:12 EST ID:V/AhKYmB No.120333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So the shop only had 4gb 1600mhz RAM which is DDR3L... So I've bought 4 of those, so at least I'm not damaging the CPU... Not sure if I'll bother ordering faster RAM because I'll be upgrading the motherboard and CPU in a few months anyways, at which point I'll have to buy DDR4 RAM...

Did get the new gpu though ;) pretty excited to test this badboy out
Op - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:43:41 EST ID:5pt33QyB No.120334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ark is now flawless with no lag *at all* on the highest specs it has to offer tomorrow I'll setup the PC on an HD projector and see how it handles that...

Shame they didn't have any decent DDR3L RAM but I guess there's not many people who have Skylake processors and NOT DDR4 RAM so that's fair enough... But it's clocking higher speeds than the ram I had before, and the game runs like a treat, so it'll do me for the next few months till I upgrade the other pieces of hardware.

>>120329 my audio setup is pretty basic I guess, just running the onboard capability, gaming through headphones. It sounds all good to me though, is there much reason to get a dedicated sound card if you're just gaming through headphones?

Livestream Driving by WesleyGeffingletch.rm - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:19:01 EST ID:o0YR/9ei No.120320 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /tech/
What sort of equipment both physical and digital would I need to livestream myself driving (outside and inside cameras) somewhat like they do in Top Gear adventures?
A dream of mine is to explore the continent I reside on and I wanna document and broadcast the adventure.
IanBlunnerwill.eps - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 13:12:00 EST ID:FtUa1Cfw No.120331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
GoPro and the GoPro App?

MacPro by HenrySnodwill.tmp - Wed, 14 Dec 2016 19:46:54 EST ID:fkGN0SVn No.120258 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you guys think about this computer?
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CarolineFonkinshit.ffo - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 11:42:20 EST ID:XpJOjpIM No.120299 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I can build you great websites for very cheap. SEO certified as well!
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I'm a stupid spamming faggot and I need to kill myself
PhoebeClebblebury.mpp - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 12:06:07 EST ID:sOfRh4gt No.120300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't be so down on yourself, Craig Fl!ckinger.
HannahBlonnerway.htm - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:01:40 EST ID:jK2togBt No.120301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know.
AugustusPickgold.bin - Fri, 23 Dec 2016 00:54:33 EST ID:hk1fdwfB No.120302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Found one outside my alley. The case is really sturdy. The interior is garbage. Not the old components it has, but the design is shit. Everything is put together too tightly and if it fucks up, troubleshooting is a pain, since some of the parts don't even snap into place like they should so you have to make sure everything is making contact. Pretty sure that's why the last owner tossed it out.
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Yes. You just need to call up the Doctor to build you a spacetime multiplexing array. And btw don't lose the temporal shielded HDMI dongle he gives you or you'll never see anything out of that bastard again.

want to get a camera for video - camcorder or DSLR? by JarvisCricklestod.grp - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 11:09:01 EST ID:hcZF2p75 No.120283 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to start making videos/film, and I want to buy a camera that can shoot high-quality video.
I occasionally make stop-motion animations as well, so something that takes good pictures would be nice.
What type of camera would be best for me? At university we can check out DSLR cameras, and they seem like a good choice, but I'm daunted by the price of most of them, so I've been looking at other options. Would a camcorder style camera be as good for recording video?
HughSocklechare.o - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:29:50 EST ID:sOfRh4gt No.120284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you want uncompressed video and good optics, I don't think you're going to find a video camera that can compete with a DSLR for less money. DSLRs have a strong second hand market that you might look at to save money.
JarvisCharringfoot.ppd - Tue, 20 Dec 2016 03:13:51 EST ID:Yx3h83S3 No.120290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, agreed with >>120284 I don't do this for a living but I do do it.
A Canon EOS T2i with MagicLantern (free firmware available for making the rebel a better video camera rather just stills camera) with a Zoom H1 for audio is the best high quality/cheap option.
Only 1080, not 4k but who fucking needs 4k?
The camera goes for $350 on Amazon and an H1 for $100. Cheap fucking setup.
But you're going to need more gear. If you get into it you always need more gear.
Plus if you give up that shit keeps its resale value fairly well so you're not risking much.
Godspeed OP.

Resource-light free AV (Win7)/ Best e-mail by MatildaPiblingchidge.tmp - Fri, 16 Dec 2016 22:39:45 EST ID:/dWMyngr No.120267 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /tech/

I have a machine. An old HP2000 dual-core, running Win7 Home (x64), and I currently have Avast. Avast seems like a resource fucking slut and it really doesn't do much for me. Looking for a free and pretty-to-the-point antivirus program. Run. Scan. Catch. Kill. Close.

Also, what is the best e-mail provider in terms of security? If someone says Yahoo I swear to God

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PhineasChozzleville.cbt - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 04:33:44 EST ID:JqoeMi1c No.120280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mis-posted to another thread. Email providers, openmailbox.org, needs javascript for web based email Yandex mail is decent. No fuss signup, javascript disabled is fine. No need to offer real phone# for either. None of the questionnaire of your life's story. I think yandex only wants password and username,
have had an account for 4 5 years longer?

Thunderbird an email client asked if they could have info 'all info' related to gmail
activities. Not a good sign. This was after declining to accept google terms while trying to set up an existing account with thunderbird client email.. Just brought me to the everything page when entering existing email gmail accnt.

Eeek, don't worry, they will get that ironed out eventually when declining google terms to not get that request.
PhineasChozzleville.cbt - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 04:57:46 EST ID:JqoeMi1c No.120281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have used avgfree for a long time. It has changed a bit, tweak it a little and i'ts like it not there, ignore any all popups in the lower right side taskbar. Can turn these useless feature offers
from popping up, as well disk space monotor.

If you have the same install that came with your computer like the HP apps, like hp helpcenter,
hp updates apps, etc. Just save what you want, wipe the thing & put win7 x64 pro on it. 7 pro works soo much cleaner than the home versions.
JamesNinninghutch.css - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:17:17 EST ID:l1O402xc No.120285 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks for the e-mail suggestions. AVG would eat too many resources on this old piece'a'shit. Clamwin is basic and good enough (since I'm not program/internet retarded). I have a Win7Pro(x64) but I'm going to put that on my new machine. Not a fan of sellout Windows 10. Probably just gonna back up 10's image onto an external SSD and load W7P, then run never10 to finalize my solidarity.
HughBlythehood.wsz - Tue, 20 Dec 2016 00:05:45 EST ID:JqoeMi1c No.120287 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yandex is likely the best thing going as stability, services. It's Russian based, I have seen no signs that they have ever failed in privacy, security mishaps in as many years. Let alone be interested in peoples email contents, search queries. Advertisements. The online web search engine seems to be really clean, fast, no fuss. They offer a web browser that is Chromium-based that seems like it would be worthy. It has features like dnscrypt, have not used it yet though.

Openmailbox is fine, people like it. Project is funded by donations, there are others.
GrahamDartwill.cpl - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 00:27:39 EST ID:E8lJOGQX No.120347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do benchmarks before and after win10 -> win7

IME, win10 had a slight performance increase.

Google (Youtube) account without phone number. by PhoebeWublinglick.dat - Mon, 12 Dec 2016 03:26:57 EST ID:wls6y3kd No.120243 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /tech/? Trying to get a Youtube account but Google are faggots and require a phone for activation.

I'm not giving them a phone tied to me because Fuck Google.

So right now I'm trying to use a VoIP program with a callcentric number I've got setup but I'm having a hardtime using several different VoIP programs for Linux all with no luck. Linphone was promising but times out trying to verify with callcentric.

Apparently the other way I've found is by using some kind of android phone emulation but I haven't researched into that yet.

The whole 13 years old age verification doesn't seem to work anymore and since payphones have vanished, the task is a bitch.

Barring asking some random person for their phone number or possibly getting a verification code over an unattended phone somewhere, the only thing I know to do is use a burner phone but I've heard from some that these things have really been tightened down on as of the past few years and I know from a few attempted uses of those Visa sort of gift cards but are actually sort of debit cards deals, they want SSNs/Real Names/Addresses etc.

Anyone care to help? I also legit have no real phone in real life so I can only work from desktop/laptop. I'm tempted to just do it the sneaky way and find a landline someone isn't using and get the verification code voiced to that phone, I can't help but assume it is automated. Or maybe I'll pay a Paki at the gas station 20 dollars to use his phone for 5 minutes because I'm oh so poor :'(
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IanDrodgefet.pot - Tue, 13 Dec 2016 01:27:13 EST ID:wls6y3kd No.120251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't know if they use Java here but NoScript keeps me from posting and I don't have super strict settings. I have to allow 420chan to post here. Of course the same applies with everything because Noscript fucks pretty much all websites.
ShittingMurdford.gid - Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:01:29 EST ID:H+lIEPEc No.120276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is a sub-leddit for the express purpose of having someone else activate your account. You're going to want a reliable phone number for authentication though if you're interested in long-term anonymity. There are also multiple services where you can rent a phone number with BTC. I would assume that spammers wouldn't bother with these and therefore they won't be blocked.
WalterHubblefock.cpp - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 01:19:05 EST ID:AKZSG4Ft No.120277 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Go to the store, buy a $2 sim card, get the activation code sent to that.
PhineasChozzleville.cbt - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 03:28:15 EST ID:JqoeMi1c No.120278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had been able to enter a random number from a phone block from local cell providers and have an account created when things started really changing. As well simply use an old email accnt without any issues

However, I assume as many as a few weeks has passed they need "real-time" human verification,

Read well what google does with info today. I mean, every post, whatever. User agreement, if not any other read this one. It's freaking bad news kitty on what they claim they 'will' collect.
My notion is they are not using the scheme in all regions in the world to signup. As in not actually requiring a real time verification, but simply a number that is from a real block of numbers in the region that they likely would not call. May even have option, no cell phone.

Use a prox of the same region, connect to say google asia (specific regions) Use a web translator if wanted, needed to sign up.
Make sure pox does not forward IP address. Use to + web proxy, even web translators have been used to not forward ip addys.
PhineasChozzleville.cbt - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 04:23:41 EST ID:JqoeMi1c No.120279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ameail providers, openmailbox.org, needs javascript for web based email. Yandex mail is decent.

Thunderbird an email client asked if they could have info 'all info' related to gmail
activities. Not a good sign. This was after declining to accept google terms while trying to set up an existing account with thunderbird client email..

Eeek, don't worry, they will get that ironed out eventually when declining google terms.

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