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/mg/ - Software and Hardware Minimalism General by CharlesDraddlewodge.rpm - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 19:56:06 EST ID:Rls46CoK No.121825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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For discussing software and hardware minimalism.

>What is computing minimalism?
http://www.linfo.org/unix_philosophy.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unix_philosophy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimalism_(computing)

>Why software minimalism?
  • Fewer bugs
  • Better performance
  • Lower memory footprint
  • Better maintainability
  • Higher scalability
  • Longer software lifetime
  • Smaller attack surface

>List of minimal OSes and distros
>Obscure minimal
Plan 9, FreeDOS, Minix3, Genode
>Meme minimal
Crux, Void, GuixSD, FreeBSD, SourceMage
>Autistic minimal
Gentoo, Alpine, OpenBSD, LFS
>Most sane minimal
Arch Linux, Debian (netinst)

>Minimal Programs
>WM (window manager)
dwm (most sanest and most minimalist)
>Web browsers
Firefox or any of the popular text based web browsers (w3m, links)
>File Manager
Terminal
>Video/Music player
Mpv or cmus
>Text editors
GNU nano or Vim
>Image viewer
FEH or sxiv
>Shells
mksh or dash
>Terminal
st (simple terminal) or rxvt-unicode


>Useful links
Suckless: https://suckless.org/rocks
Cat-v.org: http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/
Window Managers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_window_managers
Without Systemd: http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd
Alternatives to Bloatware: https://github.com/mayfrost/guides/blob/master/ALTERNATIVES.md

>Website development
http://werc.cat-v.org/
https://learnbchs.org/
http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tefielQeHZY (The World Wide Web Sucks)

Minimalism is not a lack of something. It's simply the perfect amount of something.
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SophieChinderway.ini - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 22:37:21 EST ID:XQ5JXUpa No.121826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121825
Uriel, you made a thread about minimalist hardware but neglected to say anything on the subject. Also, I don't see how any of this shit is more scalable. Maybe you meant more reusable.
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PhyllisGibbermutch.asp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 02:06:22 EST ID:bYyfTjDa No.121858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>121825
I've been using a Raspberry Pi 3B+ as my only computer for over a month now. It freezes when I have more than 3 tabs open in Chrome. I'm used to not having a fast computer but this is a step further than that. At least Kodi handles youtube amazingly, where in Chrome it tends to have problems that require restarting the Pi to fix.

Anyone else using a Pi as their only computer? Or have any experience and could tell me how to fix some of these issues.
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ShitSmallbanks.cpp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:57:10 EST ID:XDzQfX5P No.121859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121858
Just opening Chrome uses ~500mb of RAM, of course opening multiple tabs on a 1GB system will cause it to freeze up. Maybe look into other browser options, I've never used it but I thing Opera is supposed to be a low resource option.
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DorisChepperforth.tar - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:42:17 EST ID:BzWrvcIa No.121861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121858
RPI as a main computer or even a cheap second computer doesn't make a lot of sense for an individual user. It's slower than laptops people throw away and once you factor in accessories it's not price competitive with old Thinkpads. Anyway, definitely install some extensions to block ads and javascript. I'm not sure why you would have to reboot to fix anything with your web browser. Maybe it's not fully exiting and you need to kill it?

>>121859
Yeah, like 8 years ago. Opera is Chromium now.
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SophieCellerbury.swf - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 18:12:19 EST ID:4vgTyMsa No.121862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>121858
I used a Pi 1B as my main a few months. Broke my real computer, and the only other computer I had was my first one, with a 533Mhz pentium and a jet engine noise fan. Which I actually used at first some weeks, before I realized the pi was twice as fast while making no noise at all.

Links in graphics mode is super fast, though it doesn't have real tabs, you just open more windows. And you don't really log in to pages since they want javascript and such. But for just browsing it's superb. Something in-between a pure text browser like lynx and a modern one.
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MatildaPunkinhood.log - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 06:03:26 EST ID:vpfE8QdL No.121864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Old flagship phones has really decent hardware
you can put linux on it and hook it up to a big screen
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IanGopperdale.eps2 - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 17:44:58 EST ID:g4u/IEVx No.121865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121864
Decent hardware, but you can't plug much into them and they throttle hard. Once in a blue moon the SoCs end up on cheap boards like the Tinkerboard and XU4 but even there passive cooling is not recommended.
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DavidSmallbanks.cbl - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 10:30:23 EST ID:vpfE8QdL No.121871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121865
I doubt you get much heat problems once you pull the battery
-responsible for a lot of heat buildup
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MollyBlytheville.css - Tue, 10 Jul 2018 16:57:43 EST ID:sfV2B9yb No.121899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ANyone any experience with the Bodhi distro?

Feel like trying it out on my old laptop.
Also i ordered a t430, pretty exited tbh.
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WalterHorringkod.jpeg - Sat, 14 Jul 2018 00:23:40 EST ID:Q2clBk2g No.121909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>121825
The most sane distro is NixOS or GuixSD if you want absolute minimalism in terms of there's just one text file you have to edit, and it contains your entire system configuration. To understand it go on Google Scholar and look up NixOS or Guix papers esp the orig functional package management paper.

You can also use competing schedulers for the linux kernel if interested
http://www.users.on.net/~ckolivas/kernel/

And if you want really experimental minimalism then try the following
>Debian/Hurd
>Install Guix package manager
>Use NetBSD rumpkernels

This is about as experimental as you can currently get with a working amateur system to do crazy shit you never thought was possible.


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