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Engineers... by Henry Cindertot - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:01:21 EST ID:n9RG6Q7i No.3527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Should be more vocal when they know what their management is doing is wrong

NY times

February 3, 2012
Roger Boisjoly, 73, Dies; Warned of Shuttle Danger By DOUGLAS MARTIN Six months before the space shuttle Challenger exploded over Florida on Jan. 28, 1986, Roger Boisjoly wrote a portentous memo. He warned that if the weather was too cold, seals connecting sections of the shuttle’s huge rocket boosters could fail.

“The result could be a catastrophe of the highest order, loss of human life,” he wrote.

The memo was meant to jolt Morton Thiokol, the company that made the boosters and employed Mr. Boisjoly. In July 1985, a task force had been formed, partly on Mr. Boisjoly’s recommendation, to examine the effect of cold on the boosters. The effort, however, had become mired in paperwork, procurement delays and a rush to launch the shuttle, according to later investigations.

Meanwhile, his apprehensions only grew. The night before the Challenger’s liftoff, the temperature dipped below freezing. Unusual for Florida, the cold was unprecedented for a shuttle launching, and it prompted Mr. Boisjoly and other engineers to plead that the flight be postponed. Their bosses, under pressure from NASA, rejected the advice.

The shuttle exploded 73 seconds after launching, killing its seven crew members, including Christa McAuliffe, a high school teacher from Concord, N.H.

Mr. Boisjoly’s memo was soon made public. He became widely known as a whistle-blower in a federal investigation of the disaster. And though he was hailed for his action by many, he was also made to suffer for it.

Mr. Boisjoly (pronounced like Beaujolais wine) died in Nephi, Utah, near Provo, on Jan. 6. He was 73. His death was reported only locally at the time. He lived in southwest Utah, in St. George. His wife, Roberta, said he recently learned he had cancer in his colon, kidneys and liver.

Until the Challenger disaster, Mr. Boisjoly was known in his field as a crackerjack troubleshooter who had worked for companies in California on lunar module life-support systems and the moon vehicle. In 1980, he accepted a cut in pay to move with his family to Utah to deepen his involvement in the Mormon religion and to join Morton Thiokol.

After the Challenger explosion, Mr. Boisjoly gave a presidential commission investigating the disaster internal corporate documents. His disclosure of the internal memo he had written six months before the disaster was regarded as a bombshell.

Mr. Boisjoly was awarded the Prize for Scientific Freedom and Responsibility by the American Association for the Advancement of Science, and spoke to more than 300 universities and civic groups about corporate ethics. He became sought after as an expert in forensic engineering.

But before then he had paid the stiff price often exacted of whistle-blowers. Thiokol cut him off from space work, and he was shunned by colleagues and managers. A former friend warned him, “If you wreck this company, I’m going to put my kids on your doorstep,” Mr. Boisjoly told The Los Angeles Times in 1987.

He had headaches, double-vision and depression, he said. He yelled at his dog and his daughters and skipped church to avoid people. He filed two suits against Thiokol; both were dismissed.

He later said he was sustained by a single gesture of support. Sally Ride, the first American woman in space, hugged him after his appearance before the commission.

“She was the only one,” he said in a whisper to a Newsday reporter in 1988. “The only one.”

Roger Mark Boisjoly was born in Lowell, Mass., on April 25, 1938, and earned a mechanical engineering degree from the University of Massachusetts at Lowell.

Besides his wife, the former Roberta Malcolm, he is survived by his daughters Norma Patterson and Darlene Richens; his brothers Ronald, Russell and Richard; and eight grandchildren.

Mr. Boisjoly worked for 27 years in the aerospace industry. But it was one night and one moment that stood out. On the night of Jan. 27, 1986, Mr. Boisjoly and four other Thiokol engineers used a teleconference with NASA to press the case for delaying the next day’s launching because of the cold. At one point, Mr. Boisjoly said, he slapped down photos showing the damage cold temperatures had caused to an earlier shuttle. It had lifted off on a cold day, but not this cold.

“How the hell can you ignore this?” he demanded. At first this seemed persuasive, according to commission testimony. Makers of critical components had the power to postpone flights.

Four Thiokol vice presidents, all engineers themselves, went offline to huddle. They later said that they had worried they lacked conclusive data to stop a launching that had already been postponed twice. They thought the naysayers might be operating on gut reaction, not science.

Jerry Mason, Thiokol’s general manager, told his fellow executives to take off their engineering hats and put on management hats. They told NASA it was a go.

The next morning Mr. Boisjoly watched the launching. If there was going to be a problem, he thought it would come at liftoff. As the shuttle cleared the tower, his prayers seemed answered.

“Thirteen seconds later,” Mr. Boisjoly said, “we saw it blow up.”
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Lillian Mimmlefadge - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:42:43 EST ID:bPuSqpk3 No.3531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Engineers should be more vocal when they know what their management is doing is wrong
Naw, son.

It doesn't matter how vocal engineers are.

MANAGEMENT DOESN'T LISTEN.
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Caroline Conningken - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:58:48 EST ID:ZfFbwnDF No.3533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's easy to point to situations like this as proof that management is always wrong, but if you consider the launch history leading up to the event....then it was relatively normal to the way things were operating (i.e. already pushing safety limits that they thought had high margins)

>They thought the naysayers might be operating on gut reaction, not science.

Right there is the important line. Normal operating procedures said things should be fine, they had no evidence to delay something so incredible expensive. Space flight is still a dangerous thing, many unknowns, etc...

It sucks that people died, but I don't mind playing devil's advocate in this scenario. It turned out to be the wrong call, but given the circumstances I think most would have made a similar call to proceed.
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Lillian Mimmlefadge - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:02:15 EST ID:bPuSqpk3 No.3534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>3533
Management is not always wrong. Quite often management gets things right.

But that is not the same thing as listening to the engineers.
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Caroline Conningken - Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:12:49 EST ID:ZfFbwnDF No.3536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>3534

there's a limit that you have can listen to them and pay attention

on the one hand there is a "boy who cried wolf" situation going on, there is an engineer who can't express his concerns for various reasons (engineers aren't known for being forward and articulate), and then there is the general situations of the manager not being knowledge on a specific topic (acceptable considering the scope they oversee) and the severity of a problem

there are other factors, but it all combines into a stressful experience for everyone
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Nigel Docklewill - Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:53:11 EST ID:n9RG6Q7i No.3579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>3533
>most would have made a similar call to proceed
It's hard to say no when you've done the same procedure over and over again with constant results, I know what you mean
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Emma Worthingridge - Sat, 25 Feb 2012 21:12:06 EST ID:sW/laVfe No.3582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>3531
> MANAGEMENT DOESN'T LISTEN.
^so much this!!!

Managers only hear what they want to hear.
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Hedda Drondlefuck - Fri, 02 Mar 2012 08:37:58 EST ID:HIeFiX5u No.3641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>3582
http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2100/fc02089.htm
http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2100/fc02092.htm
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