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Power Creep in MTG by Jerrard of the Closed Fist - Mon, 28 Mar 2016 11:58:34 EST ID:3X5ht6DP No.27984 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have no interest in modern MTG because of power creep. I understand Hasbro wants my money, but no depth or meaning is added to the game anymore. The game doesn't get better by replacing last years +1/+1 artifact with a +2/+2 version this year. It looks as though ridiculous mythic rares like Jace the Faggot are printed only to pull the most money out of players.

The power creep devalues current collections, and discourages all but the most hardcore players from staying involved. By the Scourge expansion, power creep was already out of control. Changing the card borders and inventing Modern was a way to fix that, but instead they just made a more controlled and exacerbated version of it.

For a year or so now, I've been playing variations of familiar types in which all cards printed after 2003 (after Scourge) are banned, as well as the standard banlists. It's great to be able to justify using my older cards, but the biggest advantage is that I don't have to run on Hasbro's money creep treadmill anymore.

It all just reminds me of Ultima Online and the introduction of Age of Shadows, an expansion that doomed the game to a dying existence as a WoW power creep treadmill. Pic related. That's Jerrard of the Closed Dick, a 6/5 for 6 mana with no special abilities, completely useless by today's standards.
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Simon Sendlefadge - Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:01:40 EST ID:XfNdjS3V No.28334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28327
>Where do you think those shortcomings lie: with the brewers (it's possible to win with a brew, people just don't build them) or with the game (brews can't win because tier 1 decks are too powerful)? He gave a few examples of brews that seemed nearly kitchen-table-casual until they started winning. Of course, it takes all of a week from the first top 8 for the internet to figure out the optimal list, so it's easy to forget that.

I've never understood the sense of privilege that comes with "the brewer mindset". And I'm not talking about the people who brewed a deck like Kiki Chord, took it to numerous tournaments, grew a following and put the deck on the map. I'm talking about people who are offended that their bad cards and bad strategy can't win in an environment with good cards and good strategies. Where does this sense of privilege come from? It's like taking a golf cart to a NASCAR event and being upset that you lose.

There are legitimate, top tier brewers. Bogles was a brew. More recently, Nahiri Mardu was a brew. They don't magically stop being a brew because they're now tier2 or better. Hell, Death and Taxes was a brew and in the later half of 2014 was arguably the best deck in Legacy at the time (after the reign of Shardless BUG and Omnitell). DnT was created by a guy named Finn posting on MTGSalvation.

So I guess my point is that brewing is a real thing that happens, but players that can't assess cards and strategies and can't put up results are frustrated by the game due to their inability and then blame the format, and that's stupid.
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Simon Sendlefadge - Sun, 13 Nov 2016 14:03:40 EST ID:XfNdjS3V No.28335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28327
>kill Storm players with their own Tendrils
>lolwut
>I'm pretty sure that doesn't work the way you think it does

Mindslaver them, take their turn and storm, target the mindslaver'd opponent with their own Tendrils + copies. What did you think I meant?
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Jarvis Duttingworth - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 00:03:16 EST ID:Des9OUAj No.28345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
power levels are cyclical. Lots of old cards were busted then they printed garbage like legends. Mirrodin was almost as broken as the old days.
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Lydia Dinkinkane - Sat, 31 Dec 2016 11:42:04 EST ID:fIeA08SL No.28361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28335
Tendrils would make them gain the same amount of life as they lost since you are "them" when you cast it. Although you do get rid of their wincon. What I'd do is start flashbacking all the draw cards in the graveyard like gitaxian probe for some lifeloss until your hand is overstuffed and discard anything useful (assumong they already had a full hand). If the hand is empty I'd jsut do some useless casts and hope for the best. Mindslaver works best agaisnt contorl decks though. just cast the best card and waste all the counterspells on each other
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George Murdson - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 09:59:22 EST ID:6tYZfiHq No.28362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>27984
What is the most long-winded MTG ability? First Strike? There's gotta be something longer that I'm just not up to date with like "Epic Will and Miracle of the Gods" or "Chandra Dreams of Raging Fire And Kill"


How to: Magic the Gathering by Nell Wullyridge - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 15:04:11 EST ID:Z9e1Oefb No.28360 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /tg/

I just watched a VICE documentary on MTG and my curiosity has been piqued. I kinda wanna buy a bulk amount of cards from kijiji but before I do that I want to learn more about the game.

Is there a good beginners forum, or a website that talk about the history of the decks/game and even some YouTube videos?

is it worth getting into this game or is it a dying sport?
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MTG/Beginner/Where to start? by Sophie Blirrydale - Sun, 18 Dec 2016 22:41:59 EST ID:DiQokYJc No.28355 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Greetings /tg/

My brother has moved to another country and he has left me some of his magic cards, about 300 or so of them. I've only really played once and I still need to study the rules some. I'd like to learn how to play and build a deck, I'm willing to spend a bit of money if I have to. Where do I start guys? How should I approach this?
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Reuben Blabblebutch - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 08:55:07 EST ID:PXOuitdR No.28356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28355
If you have an iOS device, get the free magic app. I think it's called magic: duels.

Once you get the hang of the basics, something like forge or xmage could help too. they (for the vast majority of the time) enforce the rules on the card and are completely free to play, so it's like playing a game against an AI.

find your local game store (wizards has a store locator) and call them up and tell them you're a complete beginner and that you want to get into the game. they'll suggest the best time for you to show up to play and have someone show you the ropes. new cards are being released on the weekend of 14 january, and new players are very welcome to these "prerelease events".

on top of that, your local game store will have events every friday night and probably more on top of that.
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Sophie Blirrydale - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:54:54 EST ID:DiQokYJc No.28357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28356
Thanks for the reply, I appreciate it.
I'll grab that app as well and start playing.
I'm from a very small town, but luckily there is one store that is only open on Fridays that is a place for people to sell/trade/play card games, I'll start there this week. Thanks again.
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silent protagonist - Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:03:48 EST ID:1mBTNJ3R No.28358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I "got into" MTG maybe like 2 years ago, after enjoying Pokémon and Yu-Gi-Oh. I got some "sample deck" things that local game stores give away - ask about it when you go in! You should be two get 2 free 30-card decks, two colours of your choice. I got them thinking I'd play with my girlfriend. Turns out she has no interest in Magic.

I watched all of Walking the Planes and Spellslingers
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL3rP64NRtmbg0g-A_fwwpfaTpkmmwcwYl
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL7atuZxmT954tuse5BmPzrVwPDogUKaxi

Tolarian Community College is also a good resource.
https://www.youtube.com/user/tolariancommunity/videos
I also really like Alpha Investments, but that's a more niche thing and not even really about the player side of Magic. Other Magic youtube channels seem to be all the same, just some guy unedited rambling about competitive stuff. Not for me. There's a cool official podcast by the face of Magic, a cool guy named Mark Rosewater, called "Drive to Work" where he talks about... everything.
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/media/podcasts

Here I am two years later, with maybe 300$ invested in Magic (several preconstructed decks and some accessories) and nobody to play with, and too scared to go to a local game store. Haven't been able to find anybody locally, through the internet. Sometimes I play against myself with my Duel Decks.
The rules are so clunky and outdated, but Wizards refuses to update them. The cards still freakin say 'deckmaster' for goodness' sake. The game could be more popular and improved, and people like my girlfriend could enjoy and play, but the design is 20 years old and barely updated or streamlined. It's too bad that it has to be sperg nerd thing. It could be as casually popular as 52 card decks.


I FUCKING LOVE CANTRIPS by SETON, CENTAUR RAPE - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:27:38 EST ID:qiDpUfBi No.28296 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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THERE'S NOTHING LIKE PLAYING, NO- CASTING, A CANTRIPS. THE WAY THEY REPLACE THEMSELVES WITH ANOTHER CARD, AND THAT'S JUST THE BEGINNING TO GET STARTED. BASICALLY JUST DRAW CARDS OR DRAW A CARD AND GNNNHGN CANTRIPS
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Emma Drorringstone - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:11:58 EST ID:j6gBYCbE No.28297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28296
FUCK YEAH CANTRIPS
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Isabella Blackshit - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 10:56:49 EST ID:YxfIXNm+ No.28298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28296
WHAT ABOUT MANA-NEUTRAL CANTRIPS?
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William Boddlehen - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 03:09:08 EST ID:qiDpUfBi No.28299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28296
WHAT ABOUT BANNED PROXY CANTRIPS WITH ART BY THE ORIGINAL ARTIST?
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Polly Goodfoot - Mon, 28 Nov 2016 00:57:53 EST ID:PzkWr9dv No.28341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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freaky art


/int/craft - imageboard community minecraft server by David Blackhall - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 09:10:47 EST ID:STdMcN8A No.28307 Locked Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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  • IP Address: intcraft.online
  • Server Version: 1.8.8 (any client from 1.8, 1.9 or 1.10 can join the server.)
  • Chien's World Map cropped to Eurasia
  • Towny, Brewery, meme recipes, word filter and more..
RP and General Rules
Contrary to previous iterations we will now state the actual rules for the server in a clear way, pre-launch. In theory, as always, there is only one rule: Don’t be a shitter. If you follow this set of rules, you are thereby not a shitter and you are in theory allowed to do what you want on Intcraft, and it will be up to the server population and community to put an end to their own disputes.
Towny War Flag will only be enabled from Friday-Sunday, from Monday-Thursday it will be disabled. PvP will always be enabled.
First 24 hours after launch will have War Flag disabled
Roleplay
  1. Building a town/nation must be historically accurate for that location given the current time (300bc-300ad)
  2. Buildings do not have to be 100% accurate, variations are allowed. But no memes.
  3. Towns do not have to be exactly in the same geographical location as they were, but it should be in the same general area.
  4. If you only want to pvp, find a pvp server
  5. If you only want to buildfag, join a nation or get gud.
  6. Nations can spread through conquest or diplomacy, but no Atlantic Federation tier memes.
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Lydia Sembleworth - Sun, 09 Oct 2016 21:51:58 EST ID:h0SGYYku No.28308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28307

Wrong board.


Does This Work by Barnaby Clenningleck - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 20:33:33 EST ID:FytEYNDP No.28300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When using the ability of Dark Supplicant, can you sacrifice him as part of the casting cost, or will that stop his ability from resolving? Secondly, if I sacrifice a False Prophet for Supplicant's casting cost, will his "exile all creatures" ability trigger before or after Scion of Darkness comes into play?
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Jenny Chodgekad - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 23:54:41 EST ID:j6gBYCbE No.28301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28300
When you sacrifice a creature to activate an ability, the ability goes on the stack before the creatures go to the graveyard.
So the Supplicant ability goes on the stack, then the Prophet goes to the graveyard and it's triggered ability goes on the stack on top of it. False Prophet's ability then activates first and exiles everything, then Dark Supplicant's ability resolves and lets you grab Scion.
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Guinan - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:56:07 EST ID:FytEYNDP No.28302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28301
So the Supplicant's ability can still resolve even if Supplicant is in the graveyard at the time of resolution?
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Matilda Peblingbanks - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 20:00:55 EST ID:FytEYNDP No.28303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Also, If I use Beacon of Destiny's ability on a Lightning Bolt that was targeting me, can I then sacrifice the Beacon for Dark Supplicant and still have the Beacon redirect that damage from the Bolt away from me?
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HalDidntDoIt !2vlFukDhqg - Sat, 01 Oct 2016 01:27:12 EST ID:j6gBYCbE No.28304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28303
No. You can't redirect damage to something that's not there anymore.
>>28302
Yes. Abilities on the stack are independent of their source. Once an ability is activated or triggered and is on the stack, it doesn't matter what happens to the source permanent. The ability will still resolve. Sometimes, however, what the ability does is tied to the permanent so it may not function as intended. In the case of Beacon of Destiny, the ability still resolves, but Beacon is gone, so there is nothing to redirect the damage to.


Shadows over Innistrad by Jarvis Nemmlehood - Sat, 02 Apr 2016 01:09:20 EST ID:OpTadZ0A No.27991 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-image-gallery/shadowsoverinnistrad
Angels, werewolves, vampires ~ oh my!

What do you think of Magic: the Gathering's lastest expansion?
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Volcanic Beach - Sat, 02 Jul 2016 01:38:53 EST ID:OpTadZ0A No.28182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Emrakul vs Tamiyo
How wins?
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Juri Sixteen - Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:05:02 EST ID:OpTadZ0A No.28196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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She bursts forth....
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Juri Sixteen - Sun, 17 Jul 2016 08:06:49 EST ID:OpTadZ0A No.28197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28196
Corrupting everything.
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Henry Sonnerdad - Fri, 22 Jul 2016 02:57:21 EST ID:zsWKgrxr No.28205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28196
Eldrazi are really big
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Augt to do it - Thu, 18 Aug 2016 04:40:41 EST ID:OpTadZ0A No.28244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28182
Eldritch Moon entraps Emrakul. Tamiyo wins!


non-french playing card games by Nigel Hossleham - Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:01:48 EST ID:ExXQaX8U No.28167 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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does anyone play card games from non-french decks? french decks are the 52-card decks with the hearts, diamonds, spades and clubs.

i have a 40-card italian deck i play scopa with.
i have a hanafuda deck i play koi koi with.
i have a 32-card german deck, but i honestly have no idea how to play a game with them.

any other exotic decks or card games out there?
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Betsy Caffingham - Sun, 10 Jul 2016 08:24:20 EST ID:iaz4d9/b No.28192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28167
I think there are games you can play with Tarot decks, but I don't know any of them.
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Jenny Trotridge - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 08:28:56 EST ID:dOFA5E8M No.28222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28167
Magic: The Gathering
Yu-Gi-Oh
Blood Bowl The Card Game
Netrunner
:^)
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Isabella Sommerfield - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 17:26:19 EST ID:ivF5eueX No.28241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I bought a Turkish card deck on holiday. It had 4 sorts of fruit on them, counting to 10. We laughed our asses off when we didn't know how to play a game with it.


Ogre: Objective 218 by Nathaniel Sirringham - Sat, 13 Aug 2016 00:21:26 EST ID:1Vp/KVV1 No.28237 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.sjgames.com/ogre/products/218/

IT'S ALL OGRE


Digital Scrabble Board by CharlieOftheChans !!YH+5fpni - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 14:54:40 EST ID:LNe6QLje No.28220 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This seems to be the logical place to post this. Quite a while ago I made a digitized version of the traditional Scrabble board, plus all of the "tiles" or letters which come with it. It's slow and cumbersome, but if you're patient, the results are IMHO worth it (see pic)

420 rules say that I can't post direct links to downloads, but that I can post a Pastebin link, so here ya go:

http://pastebin.com/SRTDec1L
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Hamilton Fannerwadge - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 12:34:56 EST ID:NyDnzMDY No.28227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cool story..

isc.ro internet scrabble club


made a steamengine by Hamilton Fannerwadge - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 12:32:13 EST ID:NyDnzMDY No.28225 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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created a fighter with high intellect.. he likes to tinker
he created a low tech steam engine.. he watched his mom cooking when he was younger and noticed the steam moved things above the pot and decided to fuck with it..
the problem is that i can't find an item that creates eternal flames
can someone help me?

its a rock that had been fashioned into being able to hold flame (metal would probably melt) and above it a rock that holds water.. with tanks of water leaking into it

i'd get into more detail but i don't have the vocabulary and i'm terrible with MSpaint
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Hamilton Fannerwadge - Sun, 07 Aug 2016 12:33:13 EST ID:NyDnzMDY No.28226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28225
oh right.. because i can't find the item the only real solution i've found was its a mage mobile
probably will sell it to royalty for the novelty of it


dungeon house. by Hannah Clayspear - Sat, 16 Jul 2016 22:48:30 EST ID:8iX5Nziz No.28194 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm doing my second mini campaign and I have this haunted house I designed. It has a gimmick where going though a door doesn't take you to the next room but to a different room on the same floor. Its will always take you to the same room, but it doesn't work both ways.
So if a player walks through a door from room X and end up in room Y walking back through the door won't take them back to room X but to room Z. If they keep doing this they will end up back in room X after about 4 times. Otherwise they could just cycle though all the rooms quickly.
Doors will also always stay on the same floor so they must find stairs.
Windows work the same way.
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Doris Billingbury - Sun, 24 Jul 2016 14:16:26 EST ID:pzoFLJjl No.28209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28204
Needing all parts is a good solution. My specific take is the amulet as a whole is a tetrahedron with the big warlock boss holding the main fourth piece. You need to either have all 4 pieces or have one piece and be blood brothers with whoever is holding the main piece. Blood brothers can be transitive so they can mix their blood with on of the henchmen and each other to work. But that henchmen must stay alive or else the link is broken.

I'm going to put several traps with lingering poison so when PCs blood pact they can get infected.

Also there will be at least 4 players so there won't be enough amulet to go around until they get the boss.

NPC gang is the human warlock boss, a tough and grumbly dragon born fighter/barb (the muscle) and two jeering human brothers who are bard/fighter and bard/sorcerer. Those two fight together often and will vicious mockery PCs as they struggle with the traps. They all kind of act and dress like mafia types so the amulets look like just some other bling amongst their other jewelry. The muscle will be the give away because it will be the only being he has, but he will wear some finer furs and leather.
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Betsy Pittway - Mon, 25 Jul 2016 06:53:20 EST ID:zzh+KAcZ No.28210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28209
They're going to need to make spot checks before you decide what they spot IMO.

Maybe give them a bonus if they've already spotted how garish the other guys are.

Also if your players are standard D&D players when they kill the barb they'll find the magic item with detect magic anyway so your well thought out visual clue will be wasted. Which is a shame, just expect to be disappointed when the players miss your well thought out clues and find the amulet using detect magic and identify.
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Cedric Sovingfig - Fri, 29 Jul 2016 23:49:59 EST ID:d1/eEs9/ No.28213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Update with more room ideas:
first floor hallway warps into a quarter pipe that they must run up if they want to get to the doors. If they get to the far end doors and open it while clinging onto the threshold an NPC opens the door, viscous mocks them, then stomps on their face.
Second floor hallway shrinks or they grow as the walk forward until they are stuck. Walking backwards, any direction, just backpedaling, shrinks them until they are climbing amongst the carpet fibers. The trick is to take one step forward reverse, backpedal, repeat.
One room has man eating plants that act as ropers with poison.
Some other room has a simple revered gravity.
The shower room has showers where the faucets are reversed.
The patio gets you attacked by a kraken.
Kitchen is the hangout for the NPC henchmen.
The armory has living armor, plus some dope armor.
Oh and every room has a mimic somewhere. I'm gonna hand out scrolls like candy but there will always be a mimic next to it.

Suggestions/Ideas?
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Wesley Muckleditch - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 09:36:52 EST ID:xqp08xXT No.28219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28213
Idk im kinda drunk but here's an idea
The amulets have to be assembled ina certain order , otherwise they PCs trasnport tp a demoinc realm where the boss NPC gets his darrk magic from
There's a few demons or dark magic creatures around a big magma pit or something
ONce defeated the PCs find some scrolls describing the magic attrivutes of the amultes and myabe some other small clues about how to navigate the mansion, nothing too concrete, maybe notes from previous adventurers who got killed by the demons orr something
Idk, I just think the complexitywould get frustrating after awhile, maybe give the players some clues
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Fanny Cluzzlewill - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 05:42:55 EST ID:H8zUUREC No.28221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28219
Well the big boss is a warlock so he literally gets his power from a demonic realm, OP has probably figured out what his power source is, so the amulet would shift them to some corner of the hells/abyss or one of the other evil outer planes where some lesser minions of his patron may be milling around. There doesn't have to be a big magma pit, D&D has a whole bunch of infinitely big evil dimensions each with their own selection of terrains. If the NPC is a far realms warlock then it'd be some lovecraftian shit. Finding the remains of another party isn't a bad idea though.

All that said, this is going to go one of two ways. The PCs will accidentally blunder through all the right doors without solving the puzzles. Or they'll get caught on an insignificant detail and run in circles. He needs to account for this.

Sorry I'm just thinking how the campaign I'm playing goes. The best laid plans of mice and DMs and all that. Though it's made more fucky by the fact it's planescape with a party who were strangers at commencement and half of them still think the others are insane.


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