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TFV4 coils & temp control by Fanny Finningmadge - Mon, 11 Jan 2016 15:40:12 EST ID:KVA69uD8 No.1623 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The TFV4 is fine and most of the coil options are pretty good. And because they are vertical coils they have enough airflow and wire surface area to use them with high wattages.
Sadly though all the nickel, titanium and steel wire coil heads really suck. They've got way less airflow and two tiny coils.

Now smok even released a 180W 4x clapton coil, pretty neat, although I don't get why they won't release any of the regular coil heads with temp control wire. Somehow I get the suspicion they're fucking with us, get us to buy all those different coils which are all less than perfect to release what we actually need several months down the line and then they have sold all the different options to everybody. Honestly I don't see any other reason for them not to do it, but what the hell.

Anyway, have 2 of the single coil RBA decks and I somewhat successfully built a vertical coil on it, but it's way too much hassle and the results are mediocre.
So I'm wondering perhaps is is possible to rebuild the TF-Q4 coils with nickel or titanium wire, possible by utilizing different parts of RBA sections and the chimney of the old coil head. Try to rebuild a TF-Q4 itself?

I never seen somebody do it, some claim they do, but all I see people to is disassemble them, not put them back together.

Help I want that 100W+ plume from a tank possible with the TFV4 but with temp control.
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Ian Blorrybot - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 19:37:04 EST ID:WW+th9xC No.1681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tracking this thread I also have the TFV4. I plan on getting the Smok R200 200W mod because I'm just running the RBA with a .6 ohm on my little 50Wer.

nb, for no content.
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Lillian Buzzdale - Tue, 02 Feb 2016 23:51:46 EST ID:VRfbK92K No.1786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys

does TC really work? is it actually measured by the device?

I was gonna get a dual quarts ti coil head and a nice box to power it, i wanted to know before i drop the money
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Sidney Hurringdock - Fri, 05 Feb 2016 10:40:06 EST ID:ncZTOTsq No.1816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1786
Yes I believe temperature is measured in the device by detecting a change in resistance


Help me settle a bet by JVenom !b1B269E8M. - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 11:07:36 EST ID:itLog3Ya No.1797 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's up guys.

So long story short, a friend and I got into a bit of an argument about the name of a piece of older vaping equipment, and since neither of us knows what it's called (and searching for what we believe it's called doesn't bring up any relevant pictures) I'm coming to you guys to figure out what it's really called. So any help would be great. You might help me win 5$. (Wow big money right!)

So the piece of equipment in question is the one in the photo (photo says "T-Tank" but that doesn't help us sadly), obviously. I believe it was called a Tankomizer, but my friend thinks it was called a drip-tip or something. I know it's petty, but we're not super serious about anyhow and I'm more curious than anything.

But that's what tanks used to look like when I first started vaping years ago (right around the time those screw-on pre-filled cartridges and shit like Blu started coming out, but long before there were ads or commercials) when most people I knew who tried vaping used cig-likes like Blu, etc. Or atleast that's what they first looked like, iirc. I remember it going from the cartridges to these, to the bigger tanks (with two O-ring type seals on each side of the glass) to the types of tanks they have now.

So can anyone help me out? Does anyone else remember these things?
Thanks!
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JVenom !b1B269E8M. - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 12:38:28 EST ID:itLog3Ya No.1800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>1799
Exactly. But what we're betting on is the actual name of such an item.

It's definitely a "drip-tip-tank" (and it's definitely ancient tech lol).

But I've posted a better pic. I personally own two kinds, one which is exactly like the pic, and a couple others which are the exact same except the black mouth-tip is the same clear plastic as the rest of the tank (the fluid is stored throughout the entire thing, there is no separation really).

The bigger part on the end is a soft rubber "storage cap" used to keep e-juice from dripping out when filled and not in use (as was common back then), since (as shown in the other pic) there is a small hole on the end cap to let juice drip onto the atomizer.

Any age-old vapers remember what the hell these things were called, officially? =)
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Rebecca Derrypat - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 13:41:19 EST ID:7urpJoL0 No.1802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1800

They had no real names, they were called "Ego-T style" tank atomizer. A period-correct video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7ETBn_OAWo
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JVenom !b1B269E8M. - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:23:23 EST ID:itLog3Ya No.1804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1802
You might be right...

But after I watched that I got the bright idea to search "tankomizer" on youtube (because I thought that's what they were called, but I hadn't thought to search Youtube until after watching that video for some reason lol) and I found another video (linked at the bottom), that suddenly made me remember WHY I thought they were called that (although I guess they were, by some people)...

I was using a Volcano e-cig at that time, and I guess that was their own product name for them, and that name spread a bit I guess? Searching Tankomizer on Youtube even yields (some pretty damn old) vids and etc. with people calling them Tankomizers, but the definition seems cloudy...

I hate to be so straightforward, but what do you think the verdict is here guys? I can't personally judge this one since I'm involved, and while it sounds like I was kind of right, I just don't know if I was "win the money" right, or if either of us really were... I mean I guess I sorta was right, but it was a proprietary name so... Idk.

Let me know what you guys think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iPT6admtFs
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JVenom !b1B269E8M. - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 14:29:09 EST ID:itLog3Ya No.1805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1804
Or I suppose (after rewatching that video) I could be an idiot and because I skimmed material I never realized that the "tankomizer" was the type of atomizer developed for use with those tanks.That makes so much more sense actually.

So yeah, I wasn't right at all. Neither of us were. So never mind lol. No winners here I suppose.

Thanks for the info though!

Anyhow, that vid I linked is unintentionally hilarious for some reason. nb.
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Rebecca Derrypat - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 15:30:14 EST ID:7urpJoL0 No.1806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1804
They had no real name. Tanks, tanks systems, tankomizers (portmanteau of tank and atomizer)... Don't search for an answer where there is none.


Vaping Pre-filled THC Cartridges and Wax by Phyllis Fennerhall - Thu, 19 Nov 2015 20:42:38 EST ID:kJqtnAfK No.1167 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Vape virgin here.

Basically, I want to be able to vape pre-filled THC oil cartridges that I can buy from dispensaries. I ALSO want to be able to vape shatter and wax.

From what little research I've done, it seems like all I need is a battery and some kind of refillable cartridge for the shatter/wax. If possible, I would like to avoid having those glass globes. I think they look super tacky. I just want a solid colored cartridge that can vape shatter/wax that is not disposable and that I can reuse almost indefinitely, or at least have a long life before I need to replace it. As for the pre filled cartridges, I'm assuming I can twist those right on to the battery, correct?

As for the battery I was thinking to get either the eGo twist or Kanger EMOW. They're both variable voltage and in the right price range, but are they any good? Which is better and are there any better alternatives?

As for the refillable concentrate cartridge being compatible with the battery, what exactly am I looking at? Do I need to make sure the cartridge is rated to withstand a certain voltage? How do I make sure that the battery and the refillable cartridge are electrically compatable?

I have no intention of using this for e-juice or nicotine.

Thank you.
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Lydia Fanwill - Wed, 25 Nov 2015 15:12:27 EST ID:a7vkRNa7 No.1244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
3.8v is typically what THC oil cartridges are rated at. Cheers bud
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Lillian Senningsad - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 06:16:19 EST ID:SlGC+Frx No.1795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you get the eGo twist, careful that the voltage isnt set too high before you hit because the dial is kind of loose. I've shorted out a couple cartridges because I accidently hit it at 4.8v.
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Betsy Bardridge - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 13:56:55 EST ID:12/rrEhc No.1803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1167
OP, are you me? I was going through this last week. I decided to go with the Aspire CF because it had a nice heft, solid construction and good battery capacity.


thc ejuice by Nigel Brunkintick - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:15:13 EST ID:ZiDac6ve No.1751 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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im new to ejuice in general, i want to start making thc ejuice. i see some people add alcohol to their product that they strain while some dont, what are the benefits? thanks sexies
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Ebenezer Sallymitch - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 01:57:19 EST ID:s74T/9WX No.1754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1753
This is the correct answer. If you're looking for a more nonsensical answer:

As I said in your thread on /weed/, you can probably just heat some VG with bud mixed in and then strain out the bud. It'll taste like ass, and you'll need a lot of bud to make it potent enough to be worth vaping, but it should work. Personally I would recommend mixing in some flavoring to help with the taste, and a bit of nicotine because nicotine and THC go together like peanut butter and jelly.

I also question if sub-ohm vaping would make this impossible, because I'm not sure if the coils would get hot enough to degrade the THC. Probably not, since it obviously works fine with nicotine. You'd have to look into the temperatures THC and nicotine can handle and see if nicotine's is too much higher than THC's. You're gonna have to do some research on this, but if it works it would be fucking badass
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Hannah Bullerhall - Sat, 30 Jan 2016 21:56:57 EST ID:2yu02irN No.1761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1754

It's been done. I have a friend that had some but Idk how it was made. It can be done though.
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Nell Blytheridge - Tue, 02 Feb 2016 17:14:19 EST ID:NJodfcaB No.1778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1761
marjiusna dispenseries were I live sell cannibus oil.
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Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Tue, 02 Feb 2016 18:00:57 EST ID:QBnByFaF No.1779 Report Quick Reply
>>1751
You can make it with VG but the problem with it is that it's not as strong as alcohol extraction, when you dissolve cannabinoids into VG the potency is only 1/3 max of what alcohol's is. There are a handful of premade PEG blends available online (EJMix, Puff Magic, etc) that you mix with hash oil and it works in tanks/drippers. I hear it tastes weird and can be a bit harsh on the throat though so that's something to consider. Maybe you could mix some of the PEG blend with hash oil and use as little PEG as possible to keep it potent, and then some VG into that. An online friend of mine posted about using this special CO2 hash oil that uses terpenes to thin the hash oil out enough to feed properly through a Subtank so that's possible though you'd have to buy/obtain your own terpenes for that lol.

>>1754
>I also question if sub-ohm vaping would make this impossible, because I'm not sure if the coils would get hot enough to degrade the THC.

Not at all, why would it be an issue? The coils don't get that hot, they reach the temperature at which juice vaporizes at and stop there, otherwise even with a wet wick the coil would just burn through the cotton. My temp controlled build I use at 500f which is higher than cotton's ignition temperature yet it never burns it.
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Whitey Blytheridge - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 12:58:01 EST ID:6kJKS1HH No.1801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1751
Like the post above suggests, you can use a pre-mix like EJ, and use a concentrate to dissolve in it. However, I use a method that may be a bit less efficient, the dis-advantage is, it has to be done on an RDA/dripper, won't work in a tank. If you can afford dabs, you take an RDA with a build in it, freshly wicked, and some juice soaked into the wick (preferably 0mg, or 3mg, due to throat hit combined with the dabs being really harsh). I'll typically take some hits till the wick is getting dry again, then put a small glob of the dabsicles on each of your coils, and then pulse the fire button with the top cap off, to slowly heat and melt it into the coil/wick. Then put some eliquid on top, pop on the top cap, and it's ready to rip, great for someone who's on the go. The first 4 hits are strong, and if you push yourself, you may gag enough to puke, so take it easy until you get a feel for it. Now, after doing this several times, there'll be a considerable amount in the wick, and you can just re-juice it and still get some nice hits, also there'll be some reclaim on the inside of the top cap you can scrape off and re-vape. Good Luck!


Tips for a successful jump from Cigs to Vapes by Charles Pullermen - Mon, 19 Oct 2015 13:00:16 EST ID:Jt1oB91J No.485 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I haven't made that jump, but I believe I and others would love to hear stories of those who have.
I have had short term success and I love vape culture but that combustion demon always get me lighting instead of vaporizing.

Tell me how its done.
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Shitting Hirringtotch - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 19:21:40 EST ID:s74T/9WX No.1711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1232
Been vaping 15mL a day for almost a year and I've never had this issue. The issue I have had is that "vaping is cheaper than smoking" line is total horseshit. It ends up being SLIGHTLY cheaper in the long run if you buy budget juice (and there are some great vendors out there) but spending 20 bucks on 30mL at your local brick and morter is exponentially more costly than buying cigarettes.
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Hannah Dankinchidging - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:35:32 EST ID:dgmPWjCA No.1713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I went from smoking 20-30 a day roll ups to vaping exclusively almost overnight - started on 3/6ml but have ended up on 12ml currently to help me put it down faster.

For me, it's now been since May 23rd 2015 - I could probably count the number of cigarettes I have smoked since with one hand. Only at ever times of drunken, battery has ran out on vape, desperation and I wanted to have one.

The reason my transition was successful was because I just instantly clicked with it. No smell, no smoke, I could vape anywhere I go and I really enjoyed flavours. I am trying to consciously vape less, but stress and nicotine seem to go hand in hand and i do sometimes go as much as maybe 10ml in a day. Typically 30ml lasts me about a week now.
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Hannah Dankinchidging - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 21:37:16 EST ID:dgmPWjCA No.1714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1713

I also didn't feel the same shittyness as smoking - vaping is misleading in that, I think I am healthier than i am now but really any time I take the stairs it is a reminder that I smoked for 5 years heavily.

By shittyness I mean the groggyness, the throat shit, the smell, the headaches when i oversmoke, the burn all that shit.
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Sophie Sammerbet - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:10:20 EST ID:fRB8tm1L No.1718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I asked a friend obsessed with vaping and they gave me a 1300mah vision spinner and a plastic CE3 head with a replaceable coil and a few different juices. Their advice was don't mess with anything that looks like a cigarette because it won't give the hit you need to make a successful switch, nor will it have the battery life to make it not seem like a pain in the ass.

At first it felt a bit cumbersome and stupid, like of felt self concious. But I instantly preferred it to cigarettes because it was cheaper, didn't smell like shit and ticked the boxes for mouth/throat and nicotine hit. Never looked back.

My advice would be the same, get a half decent battery and head and get on with it. Don't waste time and money on underpowered things trying to look like cigarettes and just deal with the fact it looks like a bloody sonic screwdriver.
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Jarvis Wuppernore - Tue, 02 Feb 2016 22:24:22 EST ID:Z83PJuNC No.1783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
don't use cig-a-lites or really anything under 30 watts bro it's not satisfying even the ego style "pens" aren't satisfying.

You just got to get a decent vape atleast 30watts and get a kit that comes with a tank.


Side Effects of Vaping by Bob Markley - Thu, 14 Jan 2016 21:28:52 EST ID:0fBLM31B No.1649 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else get what I have had for the last week or so:

Receded Gums
Horrible Sore Throat that feels like it wont go away
Gums Bleed when I floss
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Whitey Goodlock - Fri, 15 Jan 2016 06:51:36 EST ID:21LJiwTw No.1653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1650
I agree, you sound dehydrated.
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Jenny Fanridge - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:57:52 EST ID:QvVUt65F No.1680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1649
Drink more water.

As for actual side effects I've noticed after two years of vaping:

-Vapers tongue: Your tongue might get a coating of VG or PG on it and feel sort of weird. Just get a tongue scraper and brush your teeth twice daily like you should be doing
-Phlem: If I don't vape for a while I spit some mucus out
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Sophie Sammerbet - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:25:12 EST ID:fRB8tm1L No.1715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had concerns. after reading up on it *they* say that ..

Nicotine causes the blood vessels to dilate reducing blood flow to the gums and can cause recession. This is nicotine dependent irrespective of method of consumption. It is also highly dependent on other factors like individual susceptibility, diet, oral hygiene routine and brushing technique.

Some people experience bleeding gums when switching from tobacco because they experience an increased blood flow to the gums and previously hidden problems like poor gum health, gum disease, poor oral hygiene etc become apparent.

Dry mouth is a thing due to PG vapour. I personally think that this could cause accelerated tooth decay and oral health issues due to saliva helping to keep teeth coated and less susceptible to bacterial adhesion and growth. This concerns me.

I think that these all these 'issues' are present anyway with tobacco smoking and vaping is likely the lesser of two evils if you do choose to consume nicotine. I think plenty of it can be avoided or reduced by reducing PG consumption, vaping direct to lung instead of mouth to lung, chewing a gum containing xylitol, drinking more water and practising good dental hygiene like regular flossing.

I'm sure you can't eliminate all the risks to every activity, but you can reduce them. I've not experienced any increase in side effects from switching to vaping, my dentist still bitches me out about receding gums, but he attributes this to nicotine and brushing technique, he doesn't single out anything else in particular.
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Mushroom-Madness - Wed, 27 Jan 2016 14:34:03 EST ID:8f9GElIA No.1748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1650
not to mention flossing, and general good oral hygiene
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Mushroom-Madness - Wed, 27 Jan 2016 14:38:06 EST ID:8f9GElIA No.1749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1715
also i should mention that you need to be flossing using the correct method. I went to to the dentist after getting back into flossing and he told me that i wasnt doing it correctly. He told me that I need to wrape the floss around my tooth, and not do it so hard by mainly just cleaning out the gums more than penetrating them.


TF-V4 Coil lifespan by David Feffingbidging - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 23:26:29 EST ID:eOUQbPq2 No.1682 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So what kind of lifespan do yall get from your TF-V4 coils?

I picked one up a little while ago and I've had disappointing results. I've tried the triple, the quad, and the quad clapton and they have all lasted roughly the same. They hit great for about the first day, start to fall off by the end of the second day, and are barely usable after that.
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Ebenezer Clannerdore - Sat, 23 Jan 2016 20:59:06 EST ID:Q6YXYxLb No.1712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>1682
I've had my TFV4 since they came out about 3-4 months (bad time perception, maybe shorter or longer) ago and I gotta say I think you're doing something wrong. The tri-coil lasted me about 2-3 weeks, and the quad was about the same. I'm on my second Clapton (.35 ohms) and it's been over a week with perfect vapor so I'd say that one's about the same.

You need to walk the coils up to the proper wattage. Start vaping the new coil at the minimum wattage (for example, my Clapton starts at 30 and goes up to 90) and just increase the wattage each puff by no more than 5 watts, I usually stick around 3 at a time. This will keep the coil from getting "shocked" and prematurely burning which is what your problem sounds like. I personally didn't know about this for a long time and killed many a coil this way.
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Augustus Pockgold - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:13:50 EST ID:KVA69uD8 No.1739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The best ones I've had are the straightforward TF-Q4 quads that also come with the kit. They are also the least expensive ones and they take the highest wattage.

There are also new octuple clapton coils which are supposed to go upto 180 watt, Perhaps try them, most shops don't have them but you can order from fasttech.
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Augustus Pockgold - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:18:19 EST ID:KVA69uD8 No.1740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1712
Lasting is also relative, if you're using 100 watt and a 3 week old coil goodness gracious, no way that tastes right... I mean you get accoustumed to everything.


Portable vape suggestions by Edwin Heblingsone - Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:26:53 EST ID:21LJiwTw No.1648 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I haven't been here in a while but I'm thinking about getting a second vape. I already own an EQ 4.0, I've had it for about 4 years now and it's my only piece currently.

I have about $150 to spend and I think I want to get a portable vape to carry in my car for discrete blazing, can you guys recommend me the best option for my price range?

I mainly vape flower
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Phoebe Pirringstock - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 13:30:53 EST ID:6z4EOgqd No.1708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah, the one in your picture
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Fanny Grimworth - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 14:30:26 EST ID:PiT2rgZU No.1709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, go with the Arizer solo.
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Isabella Clundletodge - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 12:55:39 EST ID:v9lD7tE9 No.1738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Solo is the way to go, amazing flavor, good battery life, and awesome hits. Buy from a reseller you can find them for cheap. for serious stealth use a dab pen + Smoke buddy/homemade equivalent.


DIY Vape kits by Basil Duckson - Tue, 12 Jan 2016 19:37:51 EST ID:4MI5Uo5N No.1628 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello, /vape/
I'm looking into mixing my own juice, I have a few questions:
+Is it really as cheap as people say? One guy claimed he was paying 2 orders of magnitude less! How much did any DIYers here end up actually investing in it, and how much does a 10ml cost you now?
+Some sites offer 'kits', the one I'm looking at has all the basic equipment you'd need plus 50ml 50mg/l nicotine, plus 2x100ml bottles of PG or VG, plus 3x10ml flavours for something around £30 (around $45 US). Is this good, or could I get it significantly cheaper shopping around and sourcing things from ebay etc?
Thanks
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William Channermug - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 13:59:59 EST ID:+tS6UIQ6 No.1704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you're making your own juice, MAKE SURE YOU WEAR GLOVES!

Nicotine can be absorbed through the skin, and you will be working with high concentrations of nicotine! Spilling even a small amount of nicotine base at 76-100mg/ml will get you feeling sick at the very least.
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Faggy Carringladge - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:28:04 EST ID:s74T/9WX No.1705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1704
I don't know why people buy nicotine solutions that concentrated. 60mg of nicotine is a lethal dose in humans, so if you ingest even 1ml of that stuff there's a real chance you're going to fucking die. Hope it was worth the couple bucks you saved.
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 16:14:53 EST ID:FQqBsOIH No.1707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1705
thats overgeneralizing the matter, but it seems like a good, conservative safety statement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicotine_poisoning

and maybe im just wrongly assuming that people have cokmmon sense but i think that everybody whos handling these solutions would be wise enough to use gloves.

plus, it doesnt get absorbed instantanously and the vg/pg can be rinsed off with water.
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Sophie Sammerbet - Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:39:27 EST ID:fRB8tm1L No.1716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you are thinking of getting into it just cost up your supplies. I can buy 500ml of PG or VG base here in retail establishments for about 5 pounds. On Ebay by the litre for something like £9 with delivery. The flavourings are 10-30ml bottles as is the nicotine base in various concentrations for a few pounds. Some of the more exotic ones can cost up to £5.

They produce charts explaining volumetric mixing or if you've got your own scales and a calculator you can easily work it out. I think when I glanced at it I figured out once the initial purchases are made the stuff is so cheap to make as to be practically free.

The thing is you can buy 80:20 PG/VG liquids in basic flavours here for such a low price (like less than £1/10ml) that unless you want to make something special, simple economy isn't usually the driving motivation.

So then you've got to start looking at more exotic and expensive flavourings, expanding your collection, dealing with storage, handling, clean up and other paraphernalia and cost in your time. At which point you might as well just buy what you want from a half decent supplier that makes their own (plenty local and online here) unless you enjoy doing it.

30ml of 'good' juice in 20:80 PG/VG or even pure VG with decent flavours can be had here with comparable EU or UK ingredients like you'd buy to make your own 'premium' liquids for under £5 a bottle. Yeah, ok I might be able to make 500ml of it for £25 and this is approx 1/3rd of the price, but how much are you getting through? How much time are you willing to invest?
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Ebenezer Shakecocke - Mon, 25 Jan 2016 10:35:03 EST ID:EOo0C0g4 No.1731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been mixing my own liquid for a while now after spending way too much (10ml a day [£5 a day essentially]). Bought everything separate as opposed to a kit, most kits come with only 100ml of vg/pg whereas you can buy each for £6 on amazon, meaning it works out about £1> a bottle.
It isn't particularly time consuming, just a lot of transferring of liquids. In terms of steeping, they obviously taste better once steeped but it isn't essential. I'd recommend buying quite a few bottles, then mixing some liquid and putting some aside to steep, whilst vaping the others.
Also high concentrated nicotine isn't dangerous if you aren't a retard, gloves are the best protection but I often don't use them (lazy) and if I get some on me I just wash it off.


VAAAPE by Minx - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 11:42:28 EST ID:vfaW8tJc No.1701 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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BRAAAAH
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Faggy Carringladge - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 15:29:42 EST ID:s74T/9WX No.1706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE


PORTABLE VAPORIZER SUGGESTIONS by OP - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:40:15 EST ID:l8OYCNH7 No.1674 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys,
I am here because I need your help to make a decision.

I smoke weed for some years now and heard vaping is better for your lungs than joints, also you need less material. After a quick calculation I found out I would save around 250€ per year (probably even more) when I stop smoking joints and start vaping. Health issues aside (but would be a pro).

So I looked the past couple of days around the web which portable vapes are good, pros and cons and what I can purchase in Europe. I narrowed down my selection to these vaporizers, sorted from cheapest to most expensive:
  • Flowermate V5.0S or the mini ~120€
(con: I read that the metal piece at the mouth could get pretty hot)
  • Vapium Summit ~160€
(con: I read that the mouth piece could get hot)
  • Arizer Air ~190€

I know I could even get a Crafty for ~260€ because it would be profitable after a year, but that much money isn't worth it imo. My price range lies between 100 and 200€.
A friend told me to wait and first try it in Amsterdam in the summer, but I don't wanna wait that long. So, is it really worth it? ANd do you have any experience with one of listed vapes or do you have other recommendations?
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OP - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 07:41:17 EST ID:l8OYCNH7 No.1675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
test
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Jenny Fanridge - Mon, 18 Jan 2016 18:51:14 EST ID:QvVUt65F No.1679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The MFLB (Magic Flight Launch Box) is something I've used for a year or two now and really enjoy. It has a bit of a learning curve since you're directly applying a current to the mesh that heats it up by pushing in the battery, but it gives you a lot of control. I've used a Pax and still stick with my MFLB.

It has a lifetime warranty too, so as long as it doesn't work you can ship it in and get whatever parts don't work replaced.

The original maple kit is $120 + S/H, but if you ever need new batteries don't buy them from the magic flight site -- You can get more powerful batteries for cheaper if you just buy 4-pack of duracell/energizer rechargeable NiM batteries from a store.

Let me know if you have any questions about it!
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Graham Snodhood - Wed, 20 Jan 2016 18:28:00 EST ID:PPe1acSw No.1690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1674

look at the indica, it's good.


Noob question here by Nathaniel Findleman - Sat, 09 Jan 2016 04:44:00 EST ID:H+wmg8qb No.1593 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, sorry for the newfag question, but my friend recently bought a vape for the first time, a Pax 2.

We wanna try and smoke hash with it, but we're not sure if we've been doing it correctly, anyone have experience using hash in vaporizers?

We've just been cutting it fine and inserting it into the oven wrapped in a bit of tobacco. Is that retarded?
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Sophie Gadgestone - Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:16:46 EST ID:H+wmg8qb No.1626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1608

Thanks for the reply, do you think we can simply cut it up like one does for a pipe, or would whole pieces work just as well? I know this isn't /weed/, so sorry for the slightly off-topic discussion.
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Priscilla Sumblepure - Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:52:36 EST ID:IE/w03Wc No.1635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1626
You still need to grind it up fine enough so it can heat up uniformaly.
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Samuel Cleshstock - Wed, 13 Jan 2016 05:16:05 EST ID:H+wmg8qb No.1636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>1635

Thanks man.
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Barnaby Surringlock - Wed, 13 Jan 2016 22:33:48 EST ID:TdBEiuh7 No.1644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the more you break it up the more surface area there is, the more uniform the heating of the hash will be and your vaping process will be more efficient (in terms of how many actives are in each draw)

if you just chuck a log of hash in there it will heat and vape it from the outside in which is gonna take longer and means at some point you'll boil enough of the active chemicals out of this outer layer essentially leaving behind a crust of plant matter that prevents the inner part which still contains cannabinoids from being able to properly vaporize

i mean thats generally how its going to happen, of course it'll differ depending on the quality and type of hash
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Hamilton Blathershit - Wed, 20 Jan 2016 04:39:08 EST ID:aAlHyYKa No.1688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had a friend who had one of those. Let me just say, be very careful. The way you are doing it is actually the only way to preserve the device. If you let the resin build up on the sides it will gum it up and eventually he was not able to open the device without breaking it, simply because the resin buildup was so sticky. He did not smoke tobacco. End report.
Also, i do not second that you have to break up the buds, unless they are compressed. (but if you were doing hash it doesn't even matter) Adding the surface area from the volume is marginally productive when under convective heat transfer. You want to do that with hash because your sheets are not thin i am assuming, but with the whole buds most bowls just aren't built for the kind of vertical integration you get with a piece like this. I'd say the combustion was top par for whole nugs, but you need to be careful that the resin doesn't build up and you get the thing stuck till it breaks. Best of luck op.


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