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Vaping may soon be in the hands of big tobacco by Graham Midgewater - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 12:43:23 EST ID:WhtLBhwK No.951 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New FDA legislation may make it impossible for small businesses to continue selling their e-liquids and possibly even affect the ability to sell the actual devices themselves. Essentially every product would be forced to use the same FDA application process that big tobacco has to use to get new cigarettes on the market.

>Per the FDA’s proposal, any e-cig product made after 2007, including new models, must get FDA approval to be sold. That means hiring experts to do medical research to determine the health impact of the device, which can take months and cost an estimated $3-4 million and take 5,000 hours for each application.

Keep in mind a new application would be necessary for EVERY flavor and EVERY nicotine level except the 0mg liquids, and at those man-hour levels it may take months or even years to complete. If the application fails to be granted rights to be sold the application fee must be paid again once the formula is changed to fix the reason it failed the first time.

This really fucking sucks man. This board might have come too late to see much use, at least by the american posters.

I'm still looking into it but it seems like while most of the businesses would crumble it might be possible for users to keep vaping if we can find ways to make our own mods and liquids. It doesn't seem like it would be impossible to just buy our own VG, PG, and nicotine and simply mix it ourselves, although we might not have any clean rooms at our disposal it would be better than nothing.
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 13:15:30 EST ID:4RfZzrbJ No.952 Report Quick Reply
DIY eliquid is very much a thing and there are expansive recipe databases available.

$60 gets you enough base components (vg/pg/nic) to last a year.
Hamilton Dartham - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 13:46:19 EST ID:jaztP0vm No.953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Buy a sturdy mod, and a backup. Take care of them well because you won't be able to get another. After that, just make your own ejuice. You'll be fine until your mod breaks, then you're fucked.
Or you could always just go back to smoking and get cancer or emphysema. Because murica
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 13:54:13 EST ID:4RfZzrbJ No.954 Report Quick Reply
Realistically you'll be able to import mods from China even if they're banned from sale in the US
AC !QqL8nX9URE - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 16:13:30 EST ID:0VKJkdBR No.957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is bullshit caused by Big Tobacco mad that some one else is cutting into they funds and the idiots that truly believe that Vaping is going to cause all the kids to start.
Magical Flute of Xanadu - Fri, 06 Nov 2015 13:14:45 EST ID:wUYb2+B/ No.971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>951 the website you posted is from May of last year, however on the FDA website it says as of August 30, 2015 there are still no regulations on any e-cig manufacturers.

Handcheck also first post. by Thedrizzle - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 19:14:26 EST ID:ybIJRmTF No.919 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Eugene Crebbleville - Thu, 05 Nov 2015 07:31:17 EST ID:9FTUdXcn No.949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
rip game too strong

Can someone explain this vape meme by Fucking Dombleville - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 21:17:42 EST ID:nHsFhsMJ No.768 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Simon Clavingwodging - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:05:31 EST ID:te4JpZ09 No.930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nvm, Kirt. I looked it up, the krangertech I have is damn expensive. Yours just looks more expensive. I always thought I had a basic starter.
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:26:28 EST ID:4RfZzrbJ No.931 Report Quick Reply
The mod costs $28 and the clone Velocity was $10
Simon Clavingwodging - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 12:58:34 EST ID:te4JpZ09 No.932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fucking nuts man. My first one cost 45$. These things aren't fancy according to my vape guy.
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 13:00:51 EST ID:H6TlpFq8 No.933 Report Quick Reply
The same hardware would have cost me over $100 if it didn't come from China
Simon Clavingwodging - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 16:26:25 EST ID:te4JpZ09 No.936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hook me up with a link, man. I'd appreciate it.

Need a good vape shop by Cyril Fuffingbeck - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 12:49:42 EST ID:eC3JRW4i No.860 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Looking for an online vape shop with cheaper prices for canadians or atleast free shipping or something being a newb i don't know what sites are ripoffs so if someone could enlighten me pls i'm gonna buy a Eleaf istick 20watt with nautilus mini until i save up money to buy a proper mod just need something to quit these cancer sticks :) my budgets $80 CAD help me plssss in the meantime ill goto local vape shop
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Nathaniel Bubblesick - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 17:40:51 EST ID:kKrwIh/y No.868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ey b0ss thanks alot man was gonna use vapordna but this looks cheaper 10/10
Bob Markley - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 03:03:57 EST ID:LE6m+aBN No.909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any online vape shop recommendations for the UK or Europe?
Ernest Pickwater - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 04:09:26 EST ID:eppoU4VG No.923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm pretty sure Mt.Baker delivers to the UK. They have the cheapest and most quality juices. Type in the coupon code 'vaporfrombaker' and get 10% off every order. They do that so they don't have to go through the trouble of a rewards system. Sometimes their juices can be kinda meh but I'd say 75% of the time they are spot on with their flavors.
Barnaby Blondlewill - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 07:43:58 EST ID:GeVfG3Po No.927 Ignore Report Quick Reply

drip drop vapour
Barnaby Blondlewill - Wed, 04 Nov 2015 07:43:58 EST ID:GeVfG3Po No.928 Ignore Report Quick Reply

drip drop vapour

Nicotine by Phoebe Fabblebat - Thu, 29 Oct 2015 00:16:29 EST ID:emkUanct No.812 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why do people consume nicotine, whether by vaping or smoking?

I started vaping 5 months ago, and recently quit. I mean sure, it's kinda cool at first. But all it is a just a small head rush isnt it? I couldn't really associate it with feelings of pleasure or euphoria at all. I'm not saying I expcted euphoria or pleasure from vaping nicotine, just that it didn't really sync when I experieneced said things naturally. The head rush was just kinda there, by itself.

Am I missing something?
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James Cuvingford - Fri, 30 Oct 2015 14:53:56 EST ID:LO/6sP8K No.849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why do people want to be high all the time? Very few people consume nicotine for the so called "headrush" which quickly fades away completely with increasing tolerance. It's really just a nice subtle "calm and alert" feeling, that increases when you're addicted cause you're satisfyng said addiction.
Augustus Brenderham - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:37:09 EST ID:YgmP/IfE No.879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. I just wanted another way to self-medicate after coffee stopped agreeing with me and I don't want to drink every day. Nicotine fills that void and vaping it comes with cool flavors and clouds. At first the rushes were cool but now it's all about keeping me calmer and more focused. I still love giving myself a head rush though, especially when drunk.
Hannah Billingham - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 19:00:09 EST ID:PrZTe38f No.887 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Why do people want to be high all the time?
because life is pretty shitty and for some of us its the only way to make it tolerable
Sophie Cobbleheg - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 15:27:46 EST ID:emkUanct No.915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a late respone, but thanks guys.

Especially you, great explanation.
Sidney Brorryket - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 15:32:47 EST ID:lC8Z4toA No.916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
this exactly.

plus it chills me out, always has.

Expectations of a typical vape shop by Barnaby Blembleshit - Fri, 30 Oct 2015 21:22:29 EST ID:BLxx1W0K No.851 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just opened a vape shop and was wondering what things you would expect at a good vape shop. Brands of juice, mods, tanks, addy suggestions are all greatly appreciated. Just looking to see what juices or brands I'm missing out.
Pic related; Mural at my shop
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Hamilton Mucklenock - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 09:52:29 EST ID:4kHripvR No.859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Juice menus are always nice.
Felid !PLX6KqKYI2 - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 21:00:14 EST ID:g1tu016e No.871 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Juice bars, too, that provide sampling of flavors. Manned by knowledgeable employees that know how to make small talk and don't rush people.
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:07:18 EST ID:QBnByFaF No.875 Report Quick Reply
>wondering what things you would expect at a good vape shop.

I go to a really nice vape shop. The prices aren't the best, mind you, on most hardware. Their juice prices are good/better than other shops, not as good as online. Nothing's gonna be as good as online. The only thing is like all shops they have overhead so they can't compete with internet prices. You don't exactly have to compete with them but soften the blow for people that want to buy stuff at the shop instead of online pls. I bought my IPV D2 for $65 at a shop, which is $-1015 more than online shipped, but I did it because I actually like the shop and the people that work there and the people that run/own it. They handle the vast majority of warranty stuff for us if they can, so I have somebody I can actually go and talk to about stuff when something goes wrong. Other places sell it for $70-100 (I'm not even kidding). I could have bought it for like $50 online and waited a few days (easy 'cause my mech wasn't broken) but the service I get from them is worth spending the extra couple bucks and having it in-hand right away too. They're usually stocking the latest mods/atomizers, or using them and letting people try them out. I won't spend money on an authentic Kennedy rda, but one of the guys has one and I've used it for more than 5 minutes and I liked it. Since they know I won't spend that kind of money for stuff they point me towards places to get a decent clone or similar rda's they have for sale that function similarly.

On the topic of clones, the shop I go to sells some clone stuff, but IT'S CLEARLY LABELED AS CLONES AND NOT AUTHENTICS. Fuck any store that sells people clones as authentics, or clones at authentic prices. Be honest about what you're selling! Also there's a difference between clones and counterfeits. Selling counterfeit stuff is absolutely not OK to me. I got to play with one of their authentic 4nine mechanical mods and they showed me the clone 4nine which I ended up getting. Don't harass or belittle people for not buying authentic everything.

Explain stuff!! If you're selling somebody their first mechanical mod, it's totally your …
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Augustus Brenderham - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:20:11 EST ID:YgmP/IfE No.877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This one vape shop near me has a perfect modern aesthetic and relaxed atmosphere with dim lights, white walls, and white shelves backlit with color-changing LEDs. There is plenty of space to move around and there are open couches and a large TV past the product counter and juice bar. The place is always clouded and full of pleasant conversation which adds to the overall feel. That's what I love in a vape shop.

It's in a popular shopping center and it's the only shop in an area saturated with people who vape so that probably helps their sales I honesty don't care enough about brands and I could just buy everything online. I go for the experience and the knowledgeable staff.
Barnaby Tillingville - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 01:35:30 EST ID:4A9VPDh7 No.906 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Exactly this.

I usually go to the same shop, and the biggest reason is because they have a bunch of comfy chairs, the place is dimly lit, they have a nice juice bar for sampling, and the staff are all really cool guys around my age (26) who are very knowledgeable and up to date on what's new and hot on the market, but they're also really funny guys who you can just sit and chill with. I wouldn't be surprised if all of them use 420chan.

/vape/ needs an icon by Bob Markley - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 05:16:37 EST ID:WADK1kPy No.739 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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lets get the ball rolling and throw some ideas into the mix. Be it self designs or just something you find on the webz
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Sidney Turveywell - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 23:54:36 EST ID:wfFH6reP No.776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I vote just a cloud.
Cyril Fuffingbeck - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 02:54:25 EST ID:eC3JRW4i No.855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
smoke ring
Rebecca Pombleforth - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 16:12:52 EST ID:PrZTe38f No.886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ohms symbol laid over a cloud shape in the background like in OP.
Eugene Hodgestan - Mon, 02 Nov 2015 11:25:13 EST ID:PH/amOde No.898 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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keeping it gay and simple
James Furringsed - Mon, 02 Nov 2015 13:01:22 EST ID:1BOkrr0N No.901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kanger Suboxmini vs. Emow by ender845 - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 15:31:54 EST ID:sScuiBGT No.863 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guys, I'm relatively new to vaping and I'm looking to upgrade. I've been using an old aspire pen type that my friend gave me until now. After doing some research I've narrowed it down between the subox or the emow. I prefer the ego type battery but it seems like most people end up going with a box mod. Thoughts and opinions on which to pick? Also open to other recommendations as well.
Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:23:51 EST ID:5E1G4NYn No.866 Report Quick Reply
Evic VTC Mini is a popular recent single battery box mod, goes up to 75w when updated, $28 plus shipping from efun.top and other Chinese suppliers.

Subox is also a good choice, but I'm partial to the VTC because of the featureset.
Fuck Brellyshaw - Sat, 31 Oct 2015 16:52:56 EST ID:XY1S5JjT No.867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seconding this
Otherwise Sigelei 75W or IPV D2 are also solid choices
I recommend getting good batteries as well, i.e. LG HE2, HE4, or HG2, Sony VTC 4 or 5, or Samsung 25R
Ian Woddlebudge - Mon, 02 Nov 2015 12:51:17 EST ID:cqsboTbU No.899 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got the subox mini starter kit for my first foray into sub-ohm and it fit my needs perfectly. It's a nice no nonsense vape and I absolutely love the RBA deck the subtank comes with. It was a little daunting at first but you'd have to be literally blind to not figure it out.

I changed out the plastic mouthpiece with a stainless steel one from an old protank II. My only complaint is that I decided to get the black/red instead of the white/black so if I wanna swap out the O rings im still stuck with the red buttons but ultimately that's just user preference. The only other thing people might have an issue with is the voltage only reads when the battery is being fired so it's pretty impossible to read when you're hitting it but you can if you try.

The OCC prebuilt coils are nice too but nowhere near the RBA

You're still getting cancer by Phyllis Minkinwedge - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 00:42:17 EST ID:IHXq+nph No.730 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Despite not burning paper and w/e other additives, marijuana smoke itself is still a carcinogen and your lungs are still being covered with tar.
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Kirtaner !Ub4TCdRjOM - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:01:38 EST ID:4RfZzrbJ No.759 Report Quick Reply
Fitness is definitely a primary factor in lung function, so there you go
AC !QqL8nX9URE - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 17:29:13 EST ID:0VKJkdBR No.760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You are preaching to the wall OP. This is the vape board not the smoke board.
Oliver Charringbanks - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 03:33:43 EST ID:V2Cxzex7 No.780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
10/10 master troll

Oliver Buvingwater - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 20:35:30 EST ID:ohl8V6rt No.889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
uh but like its vape not smoke
Nigger Sankinbure - Mon, 02 Nov 2015 01:56:55 EST ID:9WKlZoPb No.895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Vaporizing nootropics out of a PAX by Betsy Pockshaw - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 00:51:48 EST ID:pEKOHPWo No.874 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I got a PAX a few weeks ago and I'm running out of.. preferred substances. Then I remembered I had a bunch of nootropics so I've been looking into which are safe to vape.

Unfortunately there is very little good information on this. I can only find a few threads and I can only find a few references as to whether noopept will even work in a pax or a dry vape because all the threads are about e-cigarette fluid that peeps mixed it into. Notably, piracetam can apparently be vaporized to great trippy effects, but I don't have any at the moment.

I have noopept, oxiracetam, pramiracetam, and aniracetam. Somewhere I have phenylpiracetam but I don't know where it went.

I have a pax 2. Its temperature can range from 180C to 220C.

As a test, I placed a small amount of noopept into the oven, turned on the pax, then waited. After a moment I drew from the pax (not an inhale, just into my mouth) and then exhaled and saw that it had indeed produced a vapor and the noopept was no longer in the oven.

Interestingly, I am not sure if this was supposed to happen since the flashpoint and boiling point should be both higher than what the pax can reach? I'm kind of confused as to how that happened.

Anyway has anyone else vaped oxiracetam, pramiracetam, aniracetam, or noopept with a vape like the pax? Does anyone have any more information about this? Crossposted to /other/ given that nootropics appear more noted there.

Do I have to just fuckin' shove this all in the vape and see what works?
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:18:16 EST ID:QBnByFaF No.876 Report Quick Reply
The most basic of research showed that

>Noopept's melting point is 97C (206F).

so I'm not sure why you think "the boiling point should be higher than what the pax can reach" is right/why you're confused.

Anyways it should work in theory, whether you should be doing it is another question entirely. There aren't any studies about vaporizing and inhaling it... what's wrong with eating it like you're supposed to? You're going to need a lot less than oral dose too.

Also you're gonna have to clean up your Pax after you're done with this stuff, apparently this stuff doesn't taste very good and can even taste like burning hair. I hope you have an accurate scale for doing this stuff so you can do it at least semi-safely lol.
Betsy Pockshaw - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 01:39:59 EST ID:pEKOHPWo No.880 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The melting point and the boiling point are different. The melting point is low but the flash point is 284 C and the boiling point is apparently like 547 C. I guess I was just surprised to see any vapors come out of the oven when I hadn't expected it to actually get to that phase.

I have cleaned my vape again so that it was nice and shiny and I found that my initial observation was a ruse, the noopept just melted and did not vaporize.

This is unfortunate.
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Sun, 01 Nov 2015 03:09:19 EST ID:QBnByFaF No.882 Report Quick Reply
Ah yeah I see now, I didn't click any of the other sites.

>I guess I was just surprised to see any vapors come out of the oven when I hadn't expected it to actually get to that phase.

Probably the resin from the weed you were vaping that was heating up and vaporizing. Cleaning it and not having it happen seems to indicate that. It doesn't seem like a lot would be suitable for ecigs either. Oh well. I guess just wait to get more weed. If you have an oil rig I guess that would work (with no water) but I dunno about using nootropics that way...

strange coil problem by Oliver Charringbanks - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 04:25:01 EST ID:V2Cxzex7 No.784 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /vape/. Love the new board!
So, my vape has an ohm reader and when I use those premade .2 ohm kanger coils the reader goes all over the place.. I have to move the tank around till it's in an acceptable range to get a hit.

Wtf is this? Doesn't happen when I make coils or with the premade .5's.
Not a serious problem, but I'm a curious person. Any ideas?

Pic ubrelated
Barnaby Goodbanks - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 09:59:17 EST ID:u9e3HGGM No.787 Ignore Report Quick Reply

could just be an issue of tightening the posts, also make sure the end leads of the coil you have is cut enough where it doesnt touch the walls of the rta deck or anything else. Jumping Ohms is because your coil is touching other things, which if you dont have a mod with protection could be kind of dangerous.
Quetzalcoatl !KDjYWIiOiM - Thu, 29 Oct 2015 06:16:03 EST ID:QBnByFaF No.825 Report Quick Reply
>premade coils

Are you talking about the coils that are replaceable and have the metal housing and wick and all you do is screw it in? Or are you talking about just the wire shaped like a coil that you have to mount and wick yourself?

If it's the metal housing ones, check to make sure it's screwed down tightly and everything is alright. Clean the threads of whatever your vaporizer is, and on the coil/tank. If it's the coil you have to screw onto posts and wick, make sure that the screws are tightened. Loose screws = loose wire = jiggling and hot legs/fucked up vaping/messed up ohms. Also make sure there are no pieces of loose wire anywhere or that the coil isn't shorting somewhere when you put everything together.

It would help if you told us what vape you use... because it might even be a nickel or titanium coil for temperature control. If you've ever built coils and stuff you might notice that at the very beginning of a fresh coil it will ohm out to something, and then when you tighten it up and position it and squeeze it together and wick, after a little bit the ohms will change very slightly again. I've had coils go from .26 to .28 or some tiny shit like that. Anyways the reason I'm telling you this is because nickel and titanium coils will have the ohms fluctuate a LOT more, and the way temp control works with this stuff is the box mods have the graphs/charts/math about how nickel/titanium fluctuate under heat and will use that to do temperature controlling. Putting those coils on a box that doesn't do TC you'll see the ohms jump a lot, as that's the nature of them. Temp control just regulates that to keep it at a specific point. You might have a coil meant for TC and you might be using it with non-TC settings and that might be why. Check your box/information/whatever. If you're making coils I bet you're using kanthal and that's why you don't see it happening. .2 ohms is within the general range of TC devices, I believe most box mods will do .02 - .30 ohms for temperature control, so .20 falls within that range. Though I have also seen the .25 metal housing replaceable coils as well, so if it's not a nickel/titanium coil a…
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Hannah Pettingkatch - Fri, 30 Oct 2015 05:08:25 EST ID:LGjAkuLk No.840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>825 Sorry for not being more specific.
I'm talking about the factory made .2 kanger tech coils. The factory made .5 or any coils I make hold their ohms steady on my reader.. I actually have two different kanger tanks that I've tried them in and they both have the ohms jump around like crazy.. until I put a .5 or one I make in. What really confuses me is how those coils will work and the .2 ohm factory ones won't.... they aren't temp control cause my subox doesn't have TC so they wouldn't fire at all if they were, and the temp. Control kanger coils are blue while the others are red so I know I'm not going full retard on it either.

I just don't understand why the other coils will work of these .2's don't. I've bought 2 packs of the .2's and so far used 5/10... with them all acting like this.

Thanks for your responses guys.

Not that anyone is on /vape/ by Walter Dublingson - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 13:49:13 EST ID:UJHmuUVx No.790 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you want vaping to survive this week, you need to do this TODAY, before 5pm EST.

Can't believe its not on here yet.
Edwin Bardforth - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 14:27:51 EST ID:PrZTe38f No.792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
E-mailed my representatives and senators, about to call the white house. I would be really upset if this went through and drove the e-cig market into a grey/black market type situation. This whole situation is pretty depressing, especially considering I recently got into vaping and finally haven't smoked cigs daily in a decade for the first time.
Walter Dublingson - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:21:46 EST ID:UJHmuUVx No.794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I feel you bruh. Its a typical beltway scam. Tobacco writes the legislation, and passes it through the FDA which has no oversight or elected members. I was a pack and a half a day smoker, and I've been vaping for a few years now and they're trying to take it away. But its really important, and I implore you to call every few minutes til you get through. When I called earlier, as I soon as I said vaping, I could hear the lady sigh, so its working and we are getting through.

Another valid number is 2024561414
AC !QqL8nX9URE - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 18:23:07 EST ID:0VKJkdBR No.801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hit it up
Bob Markley - Thu, 29 Oct 2015 05:38:27 EST ID:U5PbHJLp No.821 Ignore Report Quick Reply

its pretty damn important

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