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Another Thread for Haters by Zaku Kashaku - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 23:48:21 EST ID:fkgkphqr No.657634 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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For those who wanna speak their minds about any and all shit videogame related. let it all out. Fuck the police.
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Link - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:24:33 EST ID:24OwZjuc No.707787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck you nigga, flying sand dragon from Shadow of the Collosus is the best boss in any game period
Raziel - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:01:24 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>DLC's are a cheap ploy to release unfinished games
Yeah, because I'm sure the developers working on these games and DLCs just love to release unfinished games and it's not because of some shitty deadline decision left completely to the publisher. Just be glad that games can even have DLC so they even get the chance to be considered complete. It's a shitty state of affairs, yes, but it's what we're left with.

>The sooner people stop buying the shit, the sooner they'll start releasing full games again
That doesn't make any sense though. The sooner we stop buying DLC the sooner we'll see more unfinished games, because all that does is tell publishers that DLC doesn't sell and isn't worth releasing. It's not like boycotting DLC is going to force publishers to be any more lenient on their initial deadlines, and it certainly won't make them force developers to finish their games.

Believe me, I'd much rather see finished games and never have to worry about another patch or purchasing another DLC, but that's just what we're left with. Publishers want to get their product on the market as soon as possible as not to waste any time or resources. Boycotting DLC of all things won't do a single goddamn thing to reverse any of that. Maybe you shouldn't buy what you would consider an unfinished game in the first place, you turd.
Four - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:53:39 EST ID:cj3hXrWE No.707807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Never played it but maybe with the release of the remaster il get to enjoy a decent flying boss but so far i aint impressed

You know, a lot of people consider that boss to be the weakest in all the Souls games. It leaves much to be desired, even more than the giant in DS3. It was a cake walk anyways, hide behind a wall and spam and you're done.
Shy Guy - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:40:28 EST ID:xQz35WPh No.707819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He probably means the idpol bullshit. Frankly what everyone is sick of is ultimately first world problems masquerading as politics. But every single thing having to do with race or lesbian weddings is the exact dumbass American shit everybody cant stand.
Raziel - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 14:01:44 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>hide behind a wall and spam and you're done.
Why the fuck anyone ever does this shit for Storm King is beyond me. Those people are actually stupid. The boss is meant to be a cakewalk, like most of the Archdemon fights. The only Archdemon in Demon's Souls that is actually a challenge is False King Allant. The game straight up gives you a sword that splits the sky to attack Storm King. It does tons of damage, he takes like 6 or 7 hits and he's basically defenseless. There's no need to hide and spam shit, ever. It's a setpiece more than anything (again, like most of the Archdemons) and personally I fucking love it. It acts as a reward for all the shit you went through to get to that point. I won't defend it as great boss design but I will defend it as easily one of the most satisfying moments in that game.

Bump When Playing lll by Mona Sax - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:10:43 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707562 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Kratos - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 10:39:53 EST ID:MVPrqxqB No.707812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The Witcher is Brutal. I dont know which is a better hack n slash this or Shadow Of Mordor. Im working my way thru that atm too.

lopped off a few heads, cut some poor sod in half, chopped off a bandits both legs in one fell swoop.

Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be amazing if they have this kind of fucked up psychics going on!
Felicia - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 12:43:23 EST ID:5aHYzO0i No.707814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>those fucking tabs
The Nameless One - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:09:47 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.707815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Vergil - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:11:14 EST ID:6A5jGLyN No.707816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lich King knows how it's played around here.
Ibuki - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:35:02 EST ID:cD+qQIk0 No.707818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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they said it couldn't be done

Games you have to be high or sober to play by Witch of Izalith - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 02:01:10 EST ID:CGTOE+Ms No.707640 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok does anyone else have this with certain games, like for instance if i try to play any final fantasy game sober it sucks but if im high there fuckin great and the story is hilarious, but if i try to play crusader kings 2 high i just cant get into but if im sober i get into all the politics and grand strategy.
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Four - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 03:27:32 EST ID:fS6f8H7G No.707705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I can only really play FFXIV on meth so i haven't actually been able to play it since i quit that stuff two year ago. Ive tried to get back into the game but it just so boring when you're sober. I think there is something about having to do with organizing your inventory, managing your resources, crafting, making dollars while triple checking the market and socializing that really appeals to me when im high on that shit. Now it doesn't really capture my interest and just feels tedious and shallow everytime i try to get into it. I do miss it though, and if i ever decide to go back to smoking that junk you can be sure il be playing the game and masturbating furiously
Lord Gwyn - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 19:06:55 EST ID:CGTOE+Ms No.707741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whats with final fantasy games and having to be fucked up to enjoy them?
ToeJam & Earl - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 05:54:49 EST ID:ffZfMyQP No.707763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a weeb game for Japs and weebs and weebs are known to be fucked up. Ever seen that character design? Gay as fuck man
Jax - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:08:55 EST ID:JjmLKpPs No.707798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i remember final fantasy 10 being high as shit and the main character which me and my friend named dadouche speaking straight fucking maddness than swiming out into the ocean and drowning and getting pulled back to shore and we were laughing are asses of, honestly we were laughing are asses off the whole game honestly that game was a blur probably cuz of how high we got before we played it every time like i hardly remember anything just bits and pieces.
Shy Guy - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 12:38:49 EST ID:xQz35WPh No.707813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't say have to but American McGee's Alice I want to be altered to play.

Somehow XCOM2 is harder to play drunk than it is to drive or operate heavy machinery drunk. Dunno why but beyond a beer or two I end up with a squad wipe.

Why is Phantasy Star Online nor online anymore? by Memory Jane - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 16:32:44 EST ID:VlParsES No.707732 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why did SEGA stop
the online-Service for Phantasy Star Online?

Is there any workaround?
Mia Fey - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 17:55:49 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.707734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think there are servers on PC for Blue Burst which would sate your thirst.

I always think about re-installing it, good fucking times.

RIP them bringing the 2nd one to NA
King K. Rool - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 11:37:03 EST ID:2V9oe9HA No.707772 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I played PSO on my PC with a friend via Blue Burst like 3 or 4 years ago. Check it out.
Pikmin - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 07:35:32 EST ID:J/shOb/v No.707809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe there are private servers like some guys did with Metal Gear Online? I know PSO for PC is still alive and I can never get myself to play it.

Steam keys by Xana - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 14:26:45 EST ID:PBPkj+Kg No.707774 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post a steam key, and whe will grab them
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Mark Sheppard - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:24:30 EST ID:Tjz+/3p0 No.707790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
52. Action 52. a famous shitty multi-cart for the NES
Raziel - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 22:48:47 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol I'm well aware of what Action 52 is too, not sure why I didn't connect those dots.
El Gringo Loco - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:35:01 EST ID:U/Rsa4SJ No.707805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Goomba - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:44:55 EST ID:v4gcDDCv No.707806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Because when I see "Action Blank" all I can think about is Action Hank.

You. You I like.
The Nameless One - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 13:14:09 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.707817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Favorite Video Game Music by Ratchet - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 04:25:00 EST ID:ALEfw+gP No.683597 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been playing through all the Kingdom Hearts games lately and this song is really catchy, I love it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpnXuRd9dPg

Also the New Bodhum theme from FFXIII-2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPEzumonJv4
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Chai Ka - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 05:03:13 EST ID:dt8B7bNg No.707395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Some griping, inspired, self contained pieces of music here. Excellent.

>Gran Turismo PSP intro
>Gran Turismo 2 Intro (NTSC)
>Ridge Racer Type 4
>Ridge Racer
>The Binding of Isaac: Afterbirth
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Dogmeat - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:27:15 EST ID:NGtlxRbs No.707478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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9/9 - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 06:58:16 EST ID:AcS+NKem No.707712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Juri & Vega theme from SF x Tekken
343 Guilty Spark - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 21:33:08 EST ID:WlsiesCT No.707750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That boss fight has such a fun flow to it, and it really matches with the music.

Soul Sanctum is pretty incredible.
Goomba - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 06:17:53 EST ID:v4gcDDCv No.707804 Ignore Report Quick Reply


Favourite Villains in videogames? by Tetra - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 12:40:12 EST ID:qMZvgyHp No.707004 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you have played Portal, surely you would know why GLaDOS would be my personal favourite.
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Black Whirlwind - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:09:39 EST ID:XiaiZvR8 No.707530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Forces a brutal world war
>Swears revenge against the dragons who defeated her.
>Births a child of pure hatred that saps the earth of it's life
>Watches son get killed by dragons again.
>Become fanatical and end up believing that you're a goddess and that wiping out the dragons will save the world, oh, and have an attack literally called Holocaust.
>Get killed for sure by those dragons, and to get shit talked by your slutty sister right before you die.

And it all started because she was jealous of the dragons' power.
Waluigi - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:52:48 EST ID:6ncZvctd No.707548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was about to say Solidus Snake but then I remember he's actually a good guy and the protagonist has been working for the villains the whole time.
Zits - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 14:22:37 EST ID:T9Bb2Cfz No.707596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And the name of the game is?
Kyle Katarn - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:31:44 EST ID:XiaiZvR8 No.707625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Breath of Fire 1, 2, and 3.

Her anger lasts thousands of years AKA three games.
Alex Mercer - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:58:48 EST ID:6rmGULFr No.707803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Diablo Dictator

EU covered up a study that found piracy does not affect sales by Illidan Stormrage - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 04:15:25 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.707573 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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They paid a bunch of money for the study, but then it actually showed that in some cases, piracy even boosts sales slightly.

Fuck all ya'll piracy haters please don't hurt me, I buy almost all of my games but this argument is finally settled, and the whiny bitches have lost!

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Sackboy - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 08:51:19 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.707657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A smaller case-in-point of how games aren't affected by piracy is how Darkwood officially released a torrent of their own game and lots of people actually supported the team and bought it just because of it.

Make better products at the proper price, and people won't go to other avenues. Furthermore, stealing and theft are predicated upon the destruction of the original, which doesn't occur with what we're talking about.
Seath the Scaleless - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 07:23:41 EST ID:dcaMeuBS No.707716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why do pirates even need to justify anything. Why can't it just be not nice but they do it anyway and leave it at that?
Gwyn Lord of Cinder - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 08:26:28 EST ID:huUe7tzx No.707717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think they have lost. They suppressed the report for years, and it was found by one tomboyish idealist in the system. They will most likely push their draconian policies like this didn't even happen. In my own country, a film company is going to start creening and hunting people next month, and instead of fighting them, the government is planning to introduce even more liberal screening laws, which will probably also end up being used to catch pirates. Of course, they "need" it for terrorism.
Blinky - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 18:39:41 EST ID:XxOi3597 No.707738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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they've spent their entire lives indoctrinated and guitled by anti-piracy shit like how kids thought weed was gonna kill them in one toke back when they were in D.A.R.E. and sometimes keep believing that that well into their teens and twenties. It isn't as big of an identity thing as being "straight edge" or antidrug or whatever but it's enough that people who buy into it take it seriously. Any challenges to their long held ideology messes with their heads so they have to just keep repeating the same shit over and over and stick their fingers in their ears when faced with direct evidence that piracy isn't a big deal. even "pirate then buy" seems to set them off. there's this weird thing with the human mind where having one small aspect of their ideology challenged makes them think everything about them is challenged, so they can't let that one thing be wrong.
Alex Mercer - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 04:53:15 EST ID:6rmGULFr No.707802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Piracy is a marketing problem and/or supply problem.

Divinity: Original Sin 2 by Enoch - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 15:13:34 EST ID:ujFx3m43 No.707276 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you guys think so far? Find anything interesting?

I got shittalked by a sourcerer crab, so that was fun.
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Jago - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 16:31:30 EST ID:8NuGb901 No.707675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I kinda miss the personality system from the first one, but the origin characters are pretty cool too, I'm liking them a lot more than I thought I would. The only thing that isn't really clicking with me (in either game) is the crafting system. It seems cool in theory but I'm carrying around a giant collection of trash and most of my recipes are fairly useless and I have zero desire to just experiment with combing shit randomly. Otherwise though it's good as hell. Anyone play around with the tension level thing? I've stolen a few things here and there but that makes it seem like it could be interesting to play a full-on criminal type if it's fleshed out well.

Most enemies have both magical and physical armor later in the game, although it's versatile enough that an all magic party is probably still pretty viable as long as you have like, a few battlemages/shadowblades in there. It hasn't been overwhelmingly hard for me but there have been a few times when I got just utterly screwed by environmental stuff, either because certain things aren't made entirely clear or because I miscalculated and caused a ridiculous series of chain reactions. Which is usually fun but can get annoying/frustrating at times.
James Earl Cash - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:55:36 EST ID:zRMIfnL5 No.707683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm at Act 6 and the game, and it's a bit of a pain in the ass. Lots of vague markers and waypoints for two fetch quests that you need to do to progress. I've noticed the game does have a bit of issues with being descriptive for quests, either giving too much information or not enough. I've failed a couple of quests before moving to the next area due to thinking I completed them but apparently missing something that wasn't made more obvious.
Gex - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 15:30:55 EST ID:gnI2wYMD No.707729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm playing on the 2nd highest difficulty so YMMV, but here are my thoughts.

First of all this is the 2nd time I've restarted, so 3rd play though. On play though #1 I fucked up the story and enough quests and my party comp so to be permanently under leveled, yaaaay. This is fine, I just wasn't expecting darksouls levels of PUNISH.

For my 2nd play though I opened a guide so I wouldn't fuck myself and was able to stay at the par level for what I was doing, but realized how fucked the armor system is. The only way to beat boss fights was to hide behind a corner and cheese LoS.

In theory, because some enemies have more p-armor and some enemies have more m-armor, you should split damage to be most effective.

In practice this leads to have half your party not able to damage half the your enemies, which means those enemies are alive longer, which means more ass in your face. Further more, it leaves you unable to prioritize or choose targets, as you are at the mercy of who matches to the damage you can deal that turn.

So finally, with a party where all 4 people are skilled with one elemental magic school and summoning has totally broken the game. No one can stop my massive damage, with freezing and shocking CC, not to mention slowing with oil which is the best CC in the game because it ignores AC checks. A contingency army of totems and incarnates is more then enough to compensate for the lack of a plate armor users.
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Kirby - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 18:46:31 EST ID:WvfAR3q0 No.707739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wanna love this game, but the game doesn't want me to. There's so many fucking bugs.

I just started a new game because I wasn't really fond of the way I'd built my characters / things I missed or wish I'd done differently / I forgot to loot and murder everyone in Fort Joy before moving onto Act 2, and I got the arena quest bug that they said they just fixed in the latest patch.

Onto the shelf it goes, I'll pick it up again in a few months when I can play the game without worrying about what's gonna break and fuck me next.

Tactical is broken ATM. The scaling is all kinds of fucked up and I'd bet you my left nutsack that they're changing it as we speak because there's like a 9 page thread on their forums with nothing but people going "this is fucking stupid, everything takes 10000000000000000 hits to kill, why do they have so much armour". of course they might "change" it like they "fixed" the bug I just got
honk - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:42:22 EST ID:W51O2zS3 No.707800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Me and a couple of friends have put in over 10 hours since yesterday in co-op and it's fucking excellent so far. I have an attention span of a gopher, but there's so much stuff to explore and tons of little details.

It really does seem like a game that was meant to be enjoyed with friends. Played a couple of hours by myself and while it was solid, it's many, many times better with some mates. That kind of goes for pretty much any multiplayer game, but this does seem like a truly immersive experience even with others.

WoW guild by Larry Laffer - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 02:34:15 EST ID:a3HROmeb No.707799 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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remember there being a 420chAn guild that never really hit off. Wondering if kirtaner or anyone else ever got one going or has one that theyd recommend would fit the vibe this website offers . Also anyone want to share there battle net account numbers, been world of warcraft on and off since vanilla, MMORPG's are the only types of games that garner my attention but I've never really found a group of people that have lasted my on and off activity.

What do you think about AR? by Roger Wilco - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:02:36 EST ID:02UsZtJk No.707785 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I think that AR can be considered revolutionary because it not only changes how we play games but can also change also how we view reality. AR allows one map (the real world) to have infinite layers of information and events happening concurrently at every point.

Instead of Walmart being just a real life store with AR it can become a store for virtual game items or even a dungeon. An empty field can become an elven village in a WOW kind of game and an airstrip for fighter jets in a military game at the same time.

Or imagine a really boring planned out suburb with old people and soccer moms that doesn't have anything to explore or engage in. You only have schools, supermarkets and houses. Well, with AR the game could turn that suburb into Morrowind.

Or an AR game creator can algorithmically or manually find some interesting locations in that place that people rarely visit. Then he releases an AR game that tells people to explore the town's uncharted territory like forests and industrial/commercial areas. Players get hints of what general area points are in. When a player stumbles unto a defined point in the game he sees some cool shit loke a dragon and gets rewarded and can leave a message that will show up to people who visit the point after him.

This reminds me of a quote I heard from Terrence McKenna which comes from some medieval alchemy book and goes something like: "Search for the philosopher's stone on the peak of the highest mountain, the floor of the deepest ocean, and in the darkest corner of the darkest cave". The point is that if you want new experiences you gotta explore the world instead of remaining in place. And AR can really encourage that.

So what do you think about AR? Are you excited for it?
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Nodunaga Oda - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 21:44:31 EST ID:t6YSfVFt No.707789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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VR has more potential but AR has more function.

Like..given time vr will one day be some matrix ass shit, but AR will be used more pervasively in our every day lives.

As far as games go I think VR is a better option, I don't want to step in cowshit while i'm playing AR Halo or something. They just need to work on vr locomotion a bit more..
Lei Wulong - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:20:04 EST ID:p3SvKEAY No.707793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Pokemon GO had turn-based PVP battles and didn't totally fuck the traditional type advantages, it might've been the best pokemon game ever. Easily the best non-main-installment game.
Sonia Belmont - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:47:13 EST ID:GtlPNKfR No.707795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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AR? I'm still trying to catch up with all the tens of thousands of groundbreaking and totally not gimmicky VR games that were also TOTALLY REVOLUTIONARY. VR sure did change everything, right? Right?! The technology was totally ready for prime time, and it's amazing how literally every developer is releasing nothing but VR games now. So Crazy. Much revolution. Wow.
Master Chief - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:04:14 EST ID:57iixVaT No.707796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Smoke more tumbleweeds, Belmont. Get your mind wrapped around marketing and take things as they are. The wiimote was marketed as a "revolution" for Christ's sake.

VR has some cool stuff and AR has some cool stuff. I want to be surrounded by waifus ok so buy this shit so it happens one day.
Gannon - Tue, 26 Sep 2017 00:39:08 EST ID:oWB1e47E No.707797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
VR porn is actually p good.

Only need one of those $15 plastic Cardboards too

Fallout New Vegas is a Better RPGH and I Do Not Understand Why People Have A Problem With That. by Pikmin - Fri, 01 Sep 2017 20:16:26 EST ID:kFJw0RBU No.706589 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've revisited New Vegas this week due to wanting to see what exactly went wrong and why I don't seem to enjoy Fallout 4 all that much... I came to a simple conclusion:

>Fallout New Vegas
Fantastic RPG, Not a great shooter

>Fallout 4
Fantastic Shooter, Not a good RPG

The rest really boils down to personal preference, I like RPGs a hell of a lot more then shooters for a single player experience, and find the RPG elements of New Vegas to be vastly superior to a game that pre-writes a story for me and forces me down a linear quest chain with almost no wiggle room to follow my own path. I have similar problems with Fallout 3, in where perks seem more like 'Skip this combat segment if you have 60 fork points to properly appease the duchess and not have to murder the court's guards to continue past checkpoint 56.' type layout.

Where do you lot stand? Lets start a discussion that should have been shut 5 years ago.
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Red XIII - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 09:19:39 EST ID:ikSfgLHA No.707721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>If New Vegas had more time...
What a cop out. I'm so tired of that shitty argument. I could counter that by saying that if F3 wasn't having to be built from scratch it would have been better. FNV was half done before it started as they reused basically everything from Fallout 3's assets.

>Each Faction
Except for if you really explore FNV and listen to the dialogue with many of the higher characters, You'd know that no side you pick will ever go anywhere. Even independent. The NCR will eventually take over everything and restore things to being as they were in the Old World. When the defeat the Legion, it will just be endless expansion Eastward. If the Legion were to win, it would cannibalize itself from within once they hit the coast with nothing more to conquer as the Legion is blindly following Caesar, not the ideology. House would eventually cave under NCR or Legion pressure. As would an independent New Vegas. At some point, the securitrons would run out, even if they are the advanced versions. Ultimately, the Legion with wither away unable to support itself once Caesar died. The NCR would expand endlessly until it was a big inefficient government body. Independent/House would just fold as New Vegas is a tiny little splotch in the world. You should play through Lonesome Road and really dig deep into Ulysses dialogue to understand these concepts.

>Either way, FNV's overall plot feels like it has more importance to it due to the faction involvement; the focal point of the game is the Dam and everything is leading to it, so tensions are high - the battle will decide who has a hold in the Mojave.
I disagree, the overall setting seems more massive but in reality, the consequences of the Dam and who holds it in Battle 2.0 won't mean shit. Not only due to the above but because eventually all of New Vegas will be uninhabitable as for one, the Cloud from the Sierra Madre will seep into the Mojave, killing everything under it; and two, the tunnelers will eventually escape from the Divide and rip the inhabitants of the Mojave apart. The whole thing about the Dam is that nothing that all this bloodshed is for will ever matter. The Dam will not matter in 20 years or less and all of this chaos is just political because NCR needs to look good taking on the frontier, and Caesar needs something to feed his army blood. Look into the DLC's, characters like Chief Hanlon or Arcade Gannon, and the Followers of the Apocalypse. You're missing the big picture of New Vegas.

>FO3 and FO4 don't really capture the same scope as NV; 3 is focused on the purifier and Enclave, but the only big opposition to the Enclave are BoS, and 4 suffers from having the big bad faction be one that operates covertly, and you don't really interact with them until midway through the story. Even then none of the factions in 4 really have the power or intentions of protecting the Commonwealth.

F3 has a way more complex storyline that what you make it out to be. President Eden wants the Purifier activated for the purpose of destroying all mutated lifeforms. The "lesser" Enclave want to activate the Purifier so that they can have military control over the people of the wasteland, like a defacto West Coast BoS. The Brotherhood want to activate it so that they can help the people of the wasteland under Elder Lyon's love and peace doctrine. Technically, is Eden wrong for wanting to get rid of all mutations? What about the Enclave holding the Purifier securely by the "government," so that it can't be commandeered by outside forces. Or is Lyon's Brotherhood the proper owners having planned and built it? They big picture of the game is a smaller focal point but clean water for the whole wasteland would be insanely important on a real world level. Way more important than who has control over a dam generating some electricity when there isn't even a grid for it. (Plot hole.)
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Kirby - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:22:15 EST ID:WvfAR3q0 No.707722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tbh all the time you save by not having to make every asset from scratch is probably nullified by having to use fucking Gamebyro.
Nariko - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 12:39:54 EST ID:zRMIfnL5 No.707724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Reused assets
If you read about what was actually planned for the game as compared to what came out, you can see that more time would've allowed it to be more fleshed out as Caesar's Legion is almost hated across the Mojave when it was planned for areas to showcase the security that Legion provides in order to get the point across, as well as other aspects. GTA San Andreas reuses GTA 3/VC assets but it still took 2 years to make after Vice City. Reused assets or not, it still takes time to write a story and plan out a landscape. Even then, Bethesda was slowly working on FO3 while Oblivion was being finished.

>The consequences of the Dam and who holds it in Battle 2.0 won't mean shit.
I wasn't speaking about the holding of the Dam itself, but the control of the Dam is a symbol of the victory in the battle; Caesar would be facing another defeat at the Dam in a more direct fashion, and the NCR will look good holding the national landmark as well as have a bridge to the east. Surely it won't matter in the grand scheme of it, but in terms of gameplay it gives you a feeling of being more involved. Also, depending on your choices at Dead Money the Cloud would eventually disappear due to the ventilation systems being reactivated, and Tunnelers from the Divide thrive from their environment due to it being a collapsed underground wasteland, which is the opposite of the Mojave. They may be able to survive underneath, but they are still incredibly sensitive to bright lights.

Eden wants the purifier activated with a modified FEV to kill all radiated lifeforms in the Wasteland, which would mean almost every form of human life is killed besides anyone in actually secure vaults (which are barely seen) and the Enclave itself - he's an AI that has only been exposed to American history, and if it's in the Enclave archives it's probably incredibly biased history. Autumn wants the purifier for the Enclave as well, but wants it for control.

Sure, the water is purified, but if it's intended to go outside of the Capital Wasteland it needs to be transported, and still go through the same troubles that other caravans have in other areas. Eventually the purifier may cease to work since it's also based off of Vault technology, or another force may intend to take it over themselves.

Never said the Institute are assholes trying to kill everything, merely stated that they were an organization that works covertly as opposed to the Enclave and other factions in prior games - in fact the Institute is probably the best option for the Commonwealth.
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Jax - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 20:22:57 EST ID:JjmLKpPs No.707783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Fallout 3
This one has the best exploration even if the combat is a bit of a shit show and the story is just window dressing for the exploration.

>Fallout:New Vegas
This one has the best story and does interesting shit with the factions and has better combat, though exploration in this game kinda sucks compared to 3.

>Fallout 4
Has the best combat but the exploration is not as good as 3 and the quest fucking suck also the leveling system is a fucking abomination honestly was my least favorite of the series so far.

overview is fallout 4 is shit, 3 and new vegas atleast have something going for them,
Lei Wulong - Mon, 25 Sep 2017 23:22:55 EST ID:p3SvKEAY No.707794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have to agree, I'd add that NV also had the best locations in terms of large cities and settlements, even though Fallout 3 was more fun to just wander around the wasteland in.

I didn't think exploration sucked in NV, you'd find interesting stuff and interesting encounters, but there was also a lot of nothing. Which is fitting for a desert and all, but just made 3 a little more fun to explore.

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