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Soulsborne general by Leon Belmont - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 03:06:02 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.696651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Whether you're trudging your way through the swamps of The Valley of Defilement, or slaying the shit out of beasts in the streets of Yharnam, let's talk Soulsborne shit. Gameplay experiences, lore - anything, really.

Personally, I think Demon's Souls is currently my favorite. But that likely could be because it's the last one I've played. I loved the shit out of Bloodborne and think it's mechanically a lot more refined, and that it simply feels better to play, but there's something to be said for Demon's depressive as fuck atmosphere and sheer impenetrableness. Not to mention it being the first of its kind. I honestly can't imagine how fresh this game must have felt back when it was new, if you were one of the people to "break through" to it and got over the fact that the game didn't want you to play it like you were an idiot.

I'm willing to admit that mechanically it's objectively been improved upon, but solely in terms of presentation, soundtrack, and even set pieces, I have a hard time imagining that this game will ever be topped for me, personally.

That said I still have the entirety of the Dark Souls series ahead of me, and while I certainly expect Dark Souls 1 to be a better game than Demon's, in the same way that I think Bloodborne is technically a better game than Demon's, I think I'm going to miss just how dark and wholly unforgiving that world actually was.
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Frank West - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 03:32:24 EST ID:5yYXLqVh No.696652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think it generally goes if you love Demons you'll even more love..more.. Dark Souls.

I've only played Dark Souls 1 and like half of DS 2. Love them both. A real gamer's game the both of them. Though I prefer the first one's pacing a bit more. 2 just dumps your ass in there.

I think Demon's was a sleeper hit, generally ignored at first release. People had hack and slash fatigue from Ninja Gaiden, DMC, God of War and so on and they probably wrote it off as another one of those.
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Scorpion - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 03:45:38 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait, you haven't gone through the dark souls trilogy yet?

and as long as were talking about Demon's yeah I love that game. Before I got that game I would play video games every now again maybe a multiplayer like CoD when my friends were online I was really always used to single player games so the 360/ps3 gaming era wasnt good wasnt bad really. when I got Demon's I was stuck to the TV for hours and hours. I remember going through 1-1 probably 20-30 times just trying to get to the end it was so fun and satisfying. Of course then I tried a ton of games and came to enjoy them
Bloodborne I just started a new playthrough with, taking a little break from dark souls 3. What I love about this game is that they were able to take the good things about the souls series and both create a new world around those mechanics and tweak them to fit the game better. All the enemy, boss, and environment designs are so cool and creepy I just fucking love it so much. Thats why I have high hopes for the future of soulstype games by FromSoft. If they eventually create some crazy space game where you fight alien/predator monsters with energy greatswords and gravity guns it would be fine by me just keep it similar to souls gameplay
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Aya Brea - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 04:52:33 EST ID:l+qaO3xo No.696658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I once read a post on this board describing DS1 as "like being ripped evil dead style into the middle of a black sabbath song" and I was like, fuckin' a dude.

I fuckin love Dark Souls
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Scorpion - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 04:53:53 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696654
hoo boi you are in for a ride I envy you
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Toad - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:45:26 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Man I forgot how much I fucking love this game. Yharnam is so well thought out, theres a post in the best level design thread that says its shortcut porn and thats exactly how I would describe it plus the atmosphere is top notch. Its hard to call a game perfect but I think this is as close as any developer has ever gotten. My one and only complaint is that compared to Souls theres not as big a variety of weapons but thats forgivable since every weapon is basically two weapons in one, and its probably hard to come up with transformable weapons that actually make sense

I'm working on my gun parrying right now, in my other playthroughs I never really got it down. I suck at it in this game AND in souls so I usually just dont use it unless they're super easy to parry like the brick trolls, but I'd like to get better at it. Any tips? Any specific enemies I should practice on?
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Mario - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 22:09:03 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.696703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696700
Easiest enemies to learn parrying on are the Brick Trolls and the Church Servants. The Brick Trolls have long wind ups for their attacks and you only have to be fairly precise with your timing. The church doctors don't have as much wind up but you can shoot them at pretty much any point of their attack animation and get a stagger.

The tougher, faster enemies in the game require more precise timing. You don't need to shoot them as they're literally attacking you, but just a split second before. Their animations usually give away this timing, as there seems to always be a clear distinction between wind up and when the attack starts.

I used the Blunderbuss on my first run and got really used to that, so on my second when I tried the pistol out I just couldn't use it for the life of me, since it fires faster. So personally I'd say it's easier to use the Blunderbuss since it's more likely to hit anyway, but you do have to account for its slower timing. Just find what works for you, and practice on the Brick Trolls.

After you get the Brick Trolls timing down, best enemy to practice on the Large Huntsmen you first encounter when on your way to the sewers. The Church Servants are easy to parry but aside from the trolls, they're likely the easiest enemy to parry so probably not that great for practice. They're good to get your bearings though.
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Mario - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 02:40:30 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.696718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696716
Clearly. Everyone knows that. Even I know that and I haven't played it. But that doesn't mean that anyone wanted it to actually feel that way, especially if it's a game they were looking forward to after experiencing DS1.
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Toad - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:07:55 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696775
woops forgot pic NB
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Koopa Troopa - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:49:54 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696780
What weapon did you use? strategies? I've always thought about doing a SL1 run but its daunting. I'm an alright souls player but I dont know if I'm that good. I'd probably get fucking destroyed by some bosses
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Cid - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:16:08 EST ID:J0licgID No.696803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696800
Oh and I had the Lloyd's talisman for mimics. The standing ones are easy and I don't use them for those ones, but the mimics that crawl on all fours are horrifying and I never fight them properly I just stun lock them with talismans. Also the talismans are useful for stopping certain npcs from using estus. I would not have been able to kill uh, the guy with the twinkling head stone, without the talismans. He's honestly harder then most bosses.
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Alex Mercer - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 14:44:49 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.696849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696816

>You can buy unlimited lifegems from the merchant you find in forest of the fallen giants.

Yeah I forgot that they become unlimited once she returns to Majula, but they're actually the generic lifegem, which is pretty damn useless mid-late game once your health is double what it was at the start.

>Humanity is farmable in DS1, but only soft humanity, not the kind that gives you your health back.

You can farm regular humanity from rats. All you need is 10 soft humanity + Covetous golden serpent ring. Go to the Depths bonfire (warpable), immediately hang a right, run down into the water way. There are ~10 rats you can kill in quick secession (30-45 seconds between bonfires), guaranteed to get a humanity from one of them; if not, you'll get 2-3 the next go around. 10 minutes will net you anywhere from 20-40 humanities.

>Also, Looking glass knight and Executioner's chariot were fun boss fights but neither were difficult at all.

Looking Glass Knight is a PvEP boss fight, it's one of the best bosses in the entire series for this reason, and if the LGK summons a good player, your shit will absolutely get wrecked.

Executioner's Chariot, I don't see why this wouldn't be hard unless you knew what to do beforehand. Going into it blind, you're guaranteed a handful of deaths as you figure out what needs to be done. The Undead Horse is harder than Sif, too. He scoffs at your shield.

If we're going to play the "They're good but they weren't hard" game, then DS1 only had two hard bosses: Gwyn, and Ornstein and Smough.

>I can't believe you even brought that one up.

Why wouldn't I bring up one of the best bosses in the game?

>Those two are basically just a cop out because they knew the lack of difficulty would upset some people who played the first so they're like "look at these two bosses, they were hard right?"

So, basically you're telling me they were too hard for you... What can I say? Get gud.

>Not really, for most of the game you really need the stamina or health or requirements for a weapon.

Need? If you're so bad that 30 points of health is crucial to your success, then the Heal spell will do wonders for your game. It's customary to save your Estus for the boss fights, and utilize healing spells to any recover from any damage taken getting to the Boss fight.

>>696837

>Not trying to criticize the game,

Yet that's what you did.

>Again, it was just the consensus I've taken away from what I've heard.

And that's not a good thing to do. The "consensus" will also tell you Lady Gaga is a great musician, 50 Shades of Grey is a great book series, etc. Somehow I don't see you falling in line when it comes to those consensuses.

>Snobbish fuck

I'm not the one undermining DS2 because it wasn't made by ~*~Senpai Mayazaki~*~.
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Alex Mercer - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:22:15 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.696864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696860

Yeah. Sif is easy as fuck, her attacks are easy to dodge via backrolling. If you're a mage or Archer, it's just 3 minutes of backrolling, shoot, backrolling, shoot. If you're a melee build, you literally just have to roll underneath her and stab her ankles until she is dead. Getting underneath her can be tough, but once you do it, the AI loses it's mind.

Undead Horse is a lot more difficult, because it has a ranged attack, you're fighting in a tight corridor, and it has a charge attack that is going to go through most shields. Its also got a hind leg kick that deals huge damage. When I think about it, the Undead Horse is pretty much just a reskinned Armored Tusk with a range attack, and I don't mean that as an insult because Armored Tusks are always a pain in the ass.

Sif is definitely the ~cooler~ boss, but it's by far easier because IMO. The giant cats outside of Sif's foggate are harder than Sif.
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K. K. Slider - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:37:15 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.696866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696849
>Ancient Dragon is the best boss in the game...
>Sif is easier than Chariot

You're making it too obvious now..
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Koopa Troopa - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:42:09 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696864
Well I guess its just me but I had a way, WAY easier time defeating the horse than sif. Sif has those crazy flip moves and hits like a truck
The horse has like 3 moves total and they all have long telegraphs. I died probably 3-4 times with sif the first time and i've never died to the horse
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K. K. Slider - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 18:45:52 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.696868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696867
Yeah I don't see how anyone could possibly go into it and take Sif on first time.
That spinning attack where he hits you 2-3 times will kill anyone who doesn't have the forethought to get out of the way and not try to block it.
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Mog - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:03:42 EST ID:C3TYSvM2 No.696869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Sif is hard
Pic is what I imagine people who say this look like
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Leon Powalski - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 19:04:48 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.696870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696866

Nah, he's right. Sif's easier than the Chariot, but that's because the latter is a shitty boss. Doggo is better designed and thus more fun to fight.
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Bullet Bill - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:04:17 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.696890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696866

I didn't say Ancient Dragon is the best boss in the game. I said:

>ONE OF THE BEST BOSSES

You have some shit reading comprehension, boy. But even then what's wrong with the Ancient Dragon that it doesn't deserve to be considered one of the best in the game? The sheer size of the boss was unlike anything previously seen, he could kill you in around 1-2 shots and he really had all his bases covered in terms of strategy. I'd rank him 2nd hardest, with Darklurker being the most hardest.

And like I said, get underneath Sif, and the entire boss fight becomes a cakewalk. Sif has zero attacks to counter you standing underneath her — all she can do is flip away and do yet another charge attack, and assuming you run right at her and roll, it's rinse and repeat.

I'm not saying she isn't hard for a newcomer, or that no one ever dies to her. But the implication seems to be that Executioner's Chariot isn't hard and no one ever dies to it, which also isn't true. Once you know Sif's weakness, she's easy, and same with Executioner's Chariot, but IMO it's harder to navigate around Executioner Chariot. It's not as simple as standing underneath it and swinging randomly.
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Travis Touchdown - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 22:49:47 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.696896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696890
Ancient Dragon is the worst boss fight in the whole series.
It's the most boring and least rewarding boss. Not to mention that there is very little incentive to kill him.
The strat I guess is hit him a few times, run like hell away from the center of the blast when he flies up and shoots flames straight down, run back hit him a few more times, and repeat. I feel like they could have made him difficult without making it such a chore just to fight him, if the team wasn't so lazy. Most of the fight you're either running outward, sitting waiting for the flame to stop, or running back in. Not fun at all.
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Kefka - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 23:55:34 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.696901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696849
>Yet that's what you did.
It's not.

>And that's not a good thing to do. The "consensus" will also tell you Lady Gaga is a great musician, 50 Shades of Grey is a great book series, etc. Somehow I don't see you falling in line when it comes to those consensuses.
Never said consensuses were objectively correct, or that I necessarily agree with the one I mentioned. Just that it's the one I've taken away. Again
>Clearly, I haven't fucking played it, I've yet to form an actual opinion on it yet.
Can't really make it any more cut and dry than that. Don't know what to tell you.

>I'm not the one undermining DS2 because it wasn't made by ~*~Senpai Mayazaki~*~.
Yes, because as someone that's only played 2 games in this franchise, I certainly know a hell of a lot about the developers behind it, and more so, actually give a flying shit about who worked on which game.

Like, I know you love this game and all, and I'm not trying to tell you not to. Cum your pants over it all you want. That literally doesn't affect me in any way and I really don't care. But put this overt defense of it down, it really is making you come off as a snobbish fuck, and a good example to point to of why Souls fans are often considered elitist and shit. God forbid anyone say anything remotely hint at negativity toward a game you clearly have such a fevered boner for.

nb, user ignored, etc.
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Zell Dincht - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:55:59 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.696937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696896
You can't tell a Dark Souls 2 fan that their game isn't good; they're already in a deep state of denial. They don't know the difference between a good boss fight and a chore of a boss fight, just like they don't know the difference between Hidetaka Miyazaki and Tomohiro Shibuya.
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Zell Dincht - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:01:27 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.696939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know what the real difference is between Dark Souls 2 and the entire rest of the series? In the Souls series, you can best enemies through being smart and being agile. In Dark Souls 2, not only can you never be agile unless your character is literally built for it, but you also can't best enemies via skill half the time because they're designed to automatically wreck you assuming you don't have the 'adaptability' to handle them.

Who the fuck thought adaptability/agility was a good idea? It just makes the game so sluggish.
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Jim Raynor - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:17:54 EST ID:yVmO6k+R No.696941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696937

>it's not a matter of different people enjoying different things, if you are having fun in this way you just don't know any better you unenlightened piece of shit

wew

t. played DS2 at a friend's house once
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Abel - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:01:23 EST ID:AXpYP30u No.696949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696941
4chins is that way faggot ---->
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Bullet Bill - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:33:46 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.696952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696896

You can take any boss in this franchise, break down the steps to beat them into a few simple sentences, and ask "What's the point?!?!" Dark Souls is about challenging yourself, and it don't matter whether or not the AD drops anything special. It's about the joy of killing a mothetfucking dragon. And if you want to cheese it, you can cheese it, just like how you can cheese every boss — you can even cheese Gwyn by circling around the pillars and doing ranged attacks every time he does a grab or thrust attack. Or you can summon Solaire and just let him be a punching bag as you slice away at Gwyn's charred ass.

>>696901

>It's not

When some guy says DS2 is a lesser game, and you say "Everyone knows that, including me", you are affirming his critique, and you're doing so when you have not even played.

>or that I necessarily agree with the one I mentioned

You said: "Everyone knows that. Even I know that and I haven't played it."

Gee, those sure sound like the words of someone who doesn't necessarily agree...

>But put this overt defense of it down, it really is making you come off as a snobbish fuck

Oh ho ho, basically what you're saying is, "Stop holding me accountable for talking shit!" Guess what bitch? This is a place for discussion. This isn't a circlejerk where everyone has to agree with one another or hold their breath for fear of offending.

If I see people saying shit I don't agree with, I'm gonna speak up. I saw you shit-tier a game you never played, and you got called out. In the future, form your own opinion instead of taking talking points and cues from other people.

>>696937

>they're already in a deep state of denial.

Over what? The $5 I spent to play it? I've spent more on movies and dinner that weren't very good.

>They don't know the difference between a good boss fight and a chore of a boss fight

Then please enlighten, oh great one! Seems like calling DS2 a "chore" is really just an easy cop-out. It's always funny to me that there are two types of ds2 haters — the "It was too easy" types, and then the "It was too hard" types.

Case in point for the latter being the guy bitching about the agility stat. This dude is mad that his metal-clad, Havel-imitating ass with a 600lb greatsword doesn't have the grace of a butterfly dodging attacks. He's mad that, like all stats, he's got to take a few of his precious points and invest them in Agility. He's mad that his character wasn't a master dodger from the beginning. So much for roleplaying!

To me, it's evident that the "B-team" looked at DS1, and said "It's great, but it needs refining and tweaking to allow for a greater range of character builds." They fixed a lot of the stat-related issues from DS1, they made it so that being Hollow/Human system had implications beyond PVP, they expanded upon and improved weapons and the way you use, the UI is cleaner, upgrading gear and creating boss weapons is a lot more intuitive.

And as much as people like to talk shit about DS2, Mayazaki clearly took note of it's improvement to the gameplay mechanics, and implemented them in DS3.

>>696939

>also can't best enemies via skill half the time because they're designed to automatically wreck you

I didn't have much of a problem, tbh. I see enemies, I slice them, I block, I slice again, they dead. Just like DS1. More than one enemy? I'll just pull them with my bow... Oh wait, DS2 improved it so that enemies actually behave like allies, meaning that if I arrow one enemy, they all respond! DAMN YOU B-TEAM!!!! Stop making sense and let me be an overpowered walking suit of armor!!!
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Andross - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:41:58 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.696953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696859
Yup. I was actually going to ask if I should play or avoid 2 but I knew the argument would come up eventually. On another topic, something that happens in every soulsborne thread. IMO difficulty between games and ESPECIALLY bosses seems pretty subjective. It's honestly like drug addiction in my experience, everyone has a problem with something different. I think a boss you thought was hard and vice versa. Apparently some people have trouble with Vicar Amelia? Apparently some people think Rom and his trash spiders are easy? Rom was hell for me the first time through.
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Andross - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:44:52 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.696954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696953
  • I think a boss you thought was hard was actually easy and vice versa.
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Big Daddy - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 14:12:57 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696953
Funny that you post BSB because I always have a hard time with him/her/it/whatever and I'm on that during my replay right now
It aint even the attacks either. BSB has some pretty obvious telegraphs and its moves are easy to avoid its the goddamn poison. Poison has a crazy fast health drain in this game its closer to toxic in souls
so many blood vials and antidotes wasted. I really dont want to cheese it but molotovs seem pretty good against it, so I might just throw a few of those when it gets to the stage where it poisons everything within 5 feet
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Zell Dincht - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:54:34 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.696965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696952
Oh Bullet Bill, I'm sorry but I blocked you for being a cunt like months ago. I have no idea what you're saying to me, yet I'm sure it's cunty.

>>696953
Look, I'm a huge Souls fan. I've beaten every Souls game multiple, multiple times just because I enjoy them so much. Did I beat DS2 more than once, though? No. It's not that it's difficult or anything like that, it's just the design overall is bad.

If you're a die-hard Souls fan, pick up DS2 and all it's expansions.

That being said, I've just got a few key issues I want to state.
Maps. Demon's Souls pioneered the Souls mapping, with massive maze-like maps from start to finish with tons of secrets and unlockable short-cuts. Then Dark Souls went a step further; the entire game is pretty much 1 map, extremely maze-like, very open-ended, tons of shortcuts, even ones you can access early-on, and then once you've progressed enough you unlock the ability to revisit some old locations. Bloodborne, Miyazaki's next game, ran with this idea and made it even better, even more maze-like, using tons more vertical maze structures, totally disorienting the player as they travel.

Then there's Dark Souls 2. Dark Souls 2 is literally a town surrounded by like 4 separate paths, all of which linearly take you to your end destination, only to have you port back to the town and head down a different path. Not to mention the game added a torch-light system, making some areas so dark that you needed a torch, but then they scrapped the idea because they couldn't get it to work right and it fucked up the gameplay, like made it laggy. They scrapped the torch system just hours after the game's release.

Bloodborne introduced a torch system. It worked well.

But like gameplay is the big deal, here. If you've played Demon's Souls through Dark Souls 3, you'll get a feel for the Souls gameplay style; you must be both intuitive and nimble, and be ready to make decisive blows while dodging or blocking big hits. Demon's Souls was a little clunky, but Dark Souls really perfected the gameplay, and then it only became better in Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3; really became silky smooth.

Dark Souls 2, however, opted for a slower, clunkier playstyle. Only characters with high adaptability can play nimbly. Long story short, if you come across a difficult foe in the game, and you don't have the stats to either block their attack or dodge their attacks, both of which require real stat improvements, then you just can't win, unless you're ready to whip out a bow and work slow as a snail. Now instead of a game about striking/blocking/dodging, the game forces you to choose to either simply be a block/strike character or a strike/dodge character. And it sucks being a block/strike character because you're slow as shit.

And not to mention you can't kill people in DS2. I mean, you CAN kill them, but then you can conveniently pay to revive them whenever you so choose, meaning you can't kill them. What the fuck is that nonsense? Part of the epic wonder of the Souls series was the fact that you could straight murder NPCs and never see them again. I got to kill a 50-foot tall bitch for fun, and then murder her brother and his guards, too. You sure as shit can't do that in a game where you can't kill the NPCs. Hell, that alone makes the game feel like it's not a rightful Dark Souls game, also aside the fact that the Souls games champion such originality while Dark Souls 2 simply felt like it was copying off of Dark Souls 1, trying to impersonate it, whilst containing none of the essence of the Souls series.
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Jak - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 18:56:40 EST ID:KfkpAi5s No.696971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i started playing dark souls 2 recently since it was on sale for $10 a couple of weeks ago on PSN. i think its pretty fun. only souls games ive played were 1 and bloodborne and bloodborne is my favorite.

>>696965
i dont mind the linearity of paths in DS2 but it was cool how everything was connected in DS1 and BB. the way things are layed out in DS2 is weird.

the SOTFS/DX11 release has the original lighting

>Now instead of a game about striking/blocking/dodging, the game forces you to choose to either simply be a block/strike character or a strike/dodge character. And it sucks being a block/strike character because you're slow as shit.
tbh i havent felt this way at all
i always went with dex in DS1 because strength builds felt too slow for me but in DS2 i feel like i CAN play a tanky block/strike character and not feel so slow since i can just level my adaptability a bit to get the same iframes as medium roll in DS1. it isnt that much of an investment to get to that point either
the problem with block/strike is more that they intentionally made blocking less reliable since they didnt want people turtling like in DS1
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Brad Vickers - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:01:03 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.696974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696937
The funny thing is that I said multiple times that I don't think the game is bad, I just don't think it's as good as DS1 or DS3, but this person really wants to go full autism and argue.
>>696952
The point is that the Ancient Dragon is absurdly difficult in a completely inauthentic way. By that I mean that it's just ridiculous. It's not fun beating him, the designers for DS2 were shit, and this boss wasn't difficult in any creative way, just in ridiculous gimmicky ways.
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Cole MacGrath - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:07:21 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.696979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696965

Stop pretending like you didn't read my post faggot, we both know you're far too egotistical to not care what I said about you. You're the bigger cunt here even trying to lay that shit off. I ain't even had this IP "for months" lol.

>>696974

>The funny thing is that I said multiple times that I don't think the game is bad

The funny thing is that I never said you thought the game was bad. That's your own victim complex at work, making up shit in order to feel better about your poor replies. The conversation has always been about DS2 within the context of the Souls franchise.

>Full autism

Nice d00d, call everyone who disagrees with you and isn't willing to bend over and accept your dick an autist. Nah, fuck off faggot.

>The point is that the Ancient Dragon is absurdly difficult in a completely inauthentic way.

Okay, I can't wait to hear why you think that... Oh wait...

>By that I mean that it's just ridiculous.

SHIT. And hear I thought you were going to levy some real criticism onto the boss. "Hey Bob, what'd you think about the movie?" "It was terrible! And by that mean, I mean it was no good! In other words, it resembled garbage!"

How the fuck does your brain work?

>It's not fun beating him

I had fun, in the sense that I was challenging myself, dying and coming back with knowledge of how to get further along. Is any boss "fun" in Dark Souls? Why are you pretending like the people who enjoy this franchise aren't masochists who gain pleasure from overcoming tough obstacles?

You legit just sound like some salty bitch who spent days trying to beat Ancient Dragon and then gave up, lol.

>the designers for DS2 were shit,

15 seconds ago: "I said multiple times that I don't think the game is bad."

>this boss wasn't difficult in any creative way, just in ridiculous gimmicky ways.

Explain what the gimmick was with Ancient Dragon, and then give an example of a creative way a boss was difficult in Dark Souls 1.

How was Ornstein and Smough creative, for example? How was Gwyn creative, for example?
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Brad Vickers - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:34:17 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.696981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696979
only read up until "victim complex" lol I'm done. You're acting like it is an offense to your being that someone criticizes dark souls 2. user ignored
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Trevor C. Belmont - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:22:33 EST ID:LLxzNc0e No.696982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696979
damn nigga I've never played any of the souls games and have no opinion on DS2 but you are one wacked out motherfucker chill out on the amphetamines, take those antipsychotics the doctor said would keep the voices away and stick to your home turf of /tinfoil/ cuz you cuh-razy
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Jon Irenicus - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 22:34:56 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.696983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BSB didn't give me too hard of a time like I thought it would, like I said the problem for me was always the poison but I kept my distance threw a few molotovs when I could got in a few hits here and there and it was relatively easy
Vicar was also kind of easy, beat her second try. I would have beaten her the first time but I completely forgot she had that healing move and I didn't have my numbing mist on the hotbar. Currently I made it about halfway through Hemwick, just trying to get that rune workshop tool before taking on forbidden woods. IIRC the witch of hemwick is ridiculously easy. Like the pinwheel of bloodborne
Been practicing my parrying and i'm getting better I even got in a few good ones on those two hunters that are in cathedral ward (one has the tonitrus)
Sadly earlier I lost arounf 15k blood echoes to a bagman, but hey at least that gives you access to Yarhar'gul early and theres an easy way you can farm shards from the bagmen there
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Yuna - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 03:22:31 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696983
>Vicar was also kind of easy

Vicar Amelia is a cakewalk as long as you have some fire paper on hand. Apply that shit, attack relentlessly, and she can't do anything. She'll be stunlocked for the most part and the few times she does attack will just be some arm swipes you can easily dodge. I've fought her twice with this method and I've never even seen her healing move as a result.
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Blade & Striker - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:22:16 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.697026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696971
You know what? If you, Jak, really think the gameplay in DS2 isn't what I thought it was, I'm going to consider playing through DS2 again. No joke.
That being said, I did try starting DS2 again a few months ago while also playing BloodBorne, and I honestly ended up putting DS2 down and just sticking with BloodBorne and never picking DS2 back up, because again, early on in the game I just kept feeling like it was too clunky compared to BloodBorne.

>>696974
Oh dude I hate the Ancient Dragon so much.
>Face Ancient Dragon
>Get one-shot by his retarded jump + flame
>Come back
>Keep sprinting back and forth to dodge his flame and then do 1% damage to his tail.
>Repeat 50 times.
>Accidentally trip up once and die.
>Restart.
>Restart.
>Finally, after an hour, smacked that tail til the nigga died.
>No reward.
>Ugh.

>>696979
>This user has been ignored.
Haha man I can't read anything you say, but someone mentioned you saying 'victim complex' so clearly I'm missing some comedic gold from you haha.
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Nick Havoc Parker - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 09:52:15 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.697031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696651
Played the shit out of DS1 and 2 around the time of their release and kicked ass at everything (except the Darklurker and the Frigid Outskirts, fuck that guy and that place)

Picked up a PS4 and DS3 last week, after an easy enough time with the tutorial section I boldly step forward into the real game and promptly get my ass kicked every which way.
I suddenly feel so old and impotent...
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Brad Vickers - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:03:06 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697031
DS3 has a pretty steep learning curve right from the beginning. IMO the whole tower of lothric area is pretty difficult. It kinda makes undead burg look like a cakewalk. So similar though.
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Heihachi Mishima - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 10:08:39 EST ID:h+s/kaid No.697033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Laura Croft - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 12:45:25 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.697038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bloodborne (and Souls games in general really) has some incredible fanart.
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Toad - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 15:18:54 EST ID:XfPDztnR No.697048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697032
Yeah there's some pretty tough enemies on high wall of lothric, if DS3 is your first souls game or even if you just haven't played a souls game in a while like me when I first played it it can be tough
There's the knights that can punish you from pretty much any angle you approach, the fat fuck with the giant halberd, and the hollows that transform into the snakes like gundyr does
Even the undead dogs are more aggressive than previous games
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Johnny Cage - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:32:51 EST ID:G/hsPzMb No.697063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697052
Jesus nigga calm down half this thread is you posting wall of texts
The only person who gives a damn is you, stop shitting up the thread with your obsessive cancer
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Bonks - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 03:01:37 EST ID:qBRRcr9Y No.697080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697063

that isnt a wall of text, he seems quite calm, and he isnt cancer. its a double-spaced 10 or so line post that calmly states a list of factual statements. faggot.
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Cate Archer - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 12:41:43 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.697102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697052
Bruh, you can defend DS2 til the cows come home, as I have seen you do ceaselessly on this board, but ain't anybody buying it from you at this point.

Bruh, DS2 wasn't directed by Miyazaki. His genius wasn't to be found in that game, which is why it's considered the weakest in the series. Just accept that and move on. If you like DS2, good for you. If you think it's better than the other games, that's fine, maybe the director of DS2 appeals to you more than Miyazaki does. But Miyazaki is the founder and the spirit of the Souls games, and he's touched us all. And it wasn't inappropriate, it was actually quite beautiful. He touched us with his incredibly macabre fantasy and his incredibly map-making skills and his super-fun combat engine and lore that always keeps you guessing. I mean, how many directors make games where your allies you save kill each other? Permanently? None, except Miyazaki, these days. The guy who directed DS2 got rid of perma-deaths and character-killing allies; the fuck?
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John Shepard - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 13:41:36 EST ID:iiOnJr7M No.697114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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so I was thinking last night where the series could go after this, everyone usually immediately jumps to space-souls and I did too but you know what would be crazy? TRIBAL souls. Using tomahawks and shit, instead of runes or rings you could unlock tattoos that signify certain things, instead of magic you could call upon your ancestors or the gods of nature. Bosses and enemies could be like pic related, although more menacing. Imagine if you're fighting a totem pole enemy and when you get it to low enough health it pops off into the four different heads making 4 enemies, stuff like that.
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Gordon Freeman - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 18:10:34 EST ID:UwS7oDDJ No.697118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697114
This could also go well with that underlying theme of the eastern/outsiders perspective of western culture.
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Gordon Freeman - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 18:10:34 EST ID:UwS7oDDJ No.697119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697114
This could also go well with that underlying theme of the eastern/outsiders perspective of western culture.
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Voldo - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 23:12:57 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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In previous playthroughs I would just skip Cainhurst altogether because I absolutely hated Logarius, he always gave me trouble.
But because I've been practicing my parrying this time around facing him was almost easy, visceral does crazy damage
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Basch fon Rosenburg - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 07:41:33 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.697140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697114
I'd buy that
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Archangel Tyrael - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 09:04:58 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697133
>In previous playthroughs I would just skip Cainhurst altogether

I don't think I could bring myself to actually skip it, because Cainhurst is fucking awesome. I did miss it in my first run though.
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Archangel Tyrael - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 12:58:43 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Look at this Demon's Souls status effect icon. Fucking look at it.
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Voldo - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 14:14:53 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>697142
Dont get me wrong Cainhurst is a really beautiful level and well designed, I love that they put in that skip where you can get to the ladder early its almost like FromSoft made it for speedrunning but it was just such a bitch of a boss for me and the only thing you'd go there for is to face logarius or get into the vileblood covenant
Its also a pretty good place to get bloodstone chunks but theres plenty of those in yarhagul
Now that I don't have trouble with logarius i'm never going to skip it though.

>mfw I'm approaching endgame quickly and I get sad but then I remember I have the DLC to go through
I'm also kind of mad because I forgot iosefka gives an umbilical cord if you dont fight the npc version of her, which I did, and additionally missed another umb cord where you send that woman to cathedral ward before the blood moon so I wont be able to fight moon presence but whatever. Ill just do it on another run, ill probably do some jolly cooperation too and help some people with it.
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Altaïr Ibn La-Ahad - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 01:17:12 EST ID:24OwZjuc No.697194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697151
How'd you mod that in?
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Sagat - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 02:07:27 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697151
I love the doran armor. My old psn name even used to be OldKingDoran
great weapon he gives too
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Xana - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 02:24:00 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697194
I didn't, it's just straight up there.
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Altaïr Ibn La-Ahad - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 04:31:19 EST ID:24OwZjuc No.697205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697199
But that's not true tho. What ring gives that status effect?

I played the game tons of times.
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Joe Higashi - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 05:18:20 EST ID:L5wlrkZL No.697210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697205
http://demonssouls.wikidot.com/status
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Xana - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 05:25:40 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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forgot mah pic of guy playing DeS at Arby's. nb
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Professor Layton - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 15:00:58 EST ID:YZxakGwe No.697230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does anyone want to play Demon's?
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Q-Bert - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 01:37:44 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I keep getting Gehrman down to around 1/4 health and then do something stupid like attacking when I know I shouldn't
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Darth Malak - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 01:44:39 EST ID:24OwZjuc No.697245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697211
Oh shit, totally forgot. I didn't think it actually gave a cat icon. my bad.
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Naomi Hunter - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:38:14 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.697277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I'm curious how do the general mechanics of game progression work in Bloodborne compared to the Souls games?
I'm really high and for some reason can't picture how the game progression works with it being souls-y but not souls.
I've seen clips of the gameplay, and the general mechanics of fighting seem quite similar, I'm more curious about how the levels are set up, what checkpoints are like and how it works with the lore, or if its' just one really long running story.
Is it more linear than the Souls Games?
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Alec Mason - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 22:41:37 EST ID:BOamwXBz No.697280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Finally finished Nioh. I can't say that I cared for its story or level design, but it was a pretty good game. I think it was a teeny bit overhyped by the Souls community, though. Still, I'm all for more games that are inspired by Dark Souls.
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Turok - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:25:28 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.697284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>697277

Lore (and story) is presented more or less exactly how it is in the other Souls games, really light on exposition, with most of the lore of the world coming from item descriptions. Bloodborne has lanterns instead of bonfires, and other than the fact that you can't rest at them and only warp they serve the same checkpoint function as bonfires. As far as level design is concerned a given area feels more interconnected than any other souls game imo, but still not as many over-world connections/short-cuts as Dark Souls 1 if that makes sense (there's still a good number though). Still, it feels less linear than Dark Souls 2 and 3 to me, I never played DeS.

Essentially, it's really only "not" souls in that the lore has a different coat of paint and there's more of an emphasis on being aggressive in combat. Other than that it's still a souls game.
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Funky Kong - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 01:41:05 EST ID:wUDJ6rIS No.697285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697280
I like that monster design. usually cyclops aren't the most detailed monsters but this one is really interesting to look at. does the rest of the game have good monster design? that's half the reason I looked into dark souls lol.
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Roy - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 01:50:39 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697277
It is more linear but not to an insane degree. How it works is you'll go through a large area with a lantern at the start (acts as a bonfire), usually unlocking multiple shortcuts as you progress and explore. The level design isn't as circly or natural feeling as Dark Souls, but as you progress you'll likely be a little surprised as to how interconnected it really is. Again it's not on the same level as Dark Souls, and for the first half of the game it is noticeably more linear, but by and large I'd say it's the best level design and pacing of any of the Souls games.
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Trish - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 06:18:02 EST ID:Gew5DlZG No.697294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697285

I never saw a monster I didn't like. I forgot to mention that there's a lack of yokai variety in this game. What I mean is that when you reach a certain mark in the game you just encounter the same yokai. If you're not fighting yokai, you're fighting humans, and they were always the most easy encounters for me.
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Zero - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 10:42:47 EST ID:Fo/Sj7L/ No.697304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ringed city dlc drops in 13 hours my hombres. Im fucking jazzed for that shit.
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Bubsy - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 20:52:15 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697280
the game looks interesting but I fear that, like most souls-like games, I'll just end up being disappointed because I'd compare it too much to souls
Maybe i'll give it a shot some day when it has a low price. I really wish there was a demo for it out on PSN
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Mei Ling - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 17:21:11 EST ID:dcik2JX9 No.697597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697587
Backlog > *
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Zhang Jiao - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:39:45 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697587
I don't even own DS3 yet homie, I'm still busy playing through the rest of the series first
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Dr. Mario - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:57:47 EST ID:s8ZhL7lA No.697606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>697587
Overall it's pretty great, better than AoA in my opinion. The design is more interesting, the grass and flowers everywhere contrasting with the brown/gold architecture once you actually get to the ringed city is beautiful. The angels were annoying as fuck and I'm not a fan of the way they hid the fucking summoners, especially the second and third ones which had me fizzing with rage sprinting around trying to find them before I died. I looked up where they were in the end which I almost never have done with this series but I was about to kick my PS4 out the window.

I liked the Judicator Giants, was a pretty cool new mechanic, but the first time I worked out how to kill this guy I went right back to the bonfire to get my estus back because I was sure he wouldn't respawn. He fucking respawns. I think that's a little ridiculous.
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Frogger - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 20:56:04 EST ID:E0a35sK4 No.697611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AWW YISS!

https://www.vg247.com/2016/12/07/from-soft-already-has-dark-souls-3-running-on-nintendo-switch-trilogy-re-release-in-consideration-report/
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Lydia - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 21:28:34 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697611
Well that's certainly unexpected, but welcome. Here's hoping the collection makes its way to more than just the Switch.
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Kos-Mos - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 21:33:51 EST ID:8pv6Wg4J No.697616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697611

I hope if the DS trilogy does come to the Switch that they release the games in order with a couple of months in between because I would love to experience DS1's pvp scene again with a fresh community. Great times were had.
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Minsc - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:48:08 EST ID:X0FFw47C No.697633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Challenge is demanded at the swamp fc

pass is /dsg/
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Minsc - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 01:49:44 EST ID:X0FFw47C No.697634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697633
put the sign where i'm sitting or else
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Lester the Unlikely - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:01:32 EST ID:77fB5eh0 No.697648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just stared with DeS which also kicks off my SoulsBorne season.
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Lydia - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 13:15:00 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697648
Is it your first time playing? Either way have fun with it, DeS is great.
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Geralt - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 14:11:29 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who's got Ringed City?
How is it?
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Krista Sparks - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:32:15 EST ID:tYlkfG0z No.697671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Beat Demon Prince before heading to bed last night, that fight is fucking awesome. I traded his soul for the weapon though, which i regret. probably should have gone the other way instead of going for the gimmick, and i'm on ng+3 so unless someone is kind enough to trade me another soul (which i'm not entirely sure is possible) or drop the pyro scroll which i am also unsure of, it's going to be a loooong time before i get it.

You should always go with your heart... I second guessed myself and regret it.
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Miles Edgeworth - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 23:01:48 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.697674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697665
Awesome, I was hoping it would be really good, since it's their last content for their supposed final Souls game. Glad to hear it's not disappointing.
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Bonks - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 23:55:49 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.697675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697674
at least we have bloodborne 2 to look forward to if they ever decide to make it
and any other souls-like game they come up with. Theres a rumor going around that Bloodborne 2 will be announced this year at E3 but I bet its bullshit.
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Lich King - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 11:57:12 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697675
In a way I hope we don't get a Bloodborne 2 considering the first was as self contained as it was and worked so well. I'd rather see a new IP.
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Ultros - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 12:24:20 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697694
maybe so. whatever they go into next, I've got faith in fromsoft. they go whole-heartedly into their endeavors which is pretty uncommon nowadays in the gaming biz, and it really gives them a great and loyal fan base. a lot of people just have a love/hate relationship with their favorite games/series and their producers. I can 100% say it's all love for fromsoft.
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The Arbiter - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 22:37:30 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Man, the Threaded Cane in Bloodborne is bullshit. I hate this weapon. Decided I wanted to go for a Skill build since I've never gone for any sort of DEX build in these games, but goddamn. I'm only up to Vicar Amelia (a boss I've literally beaten first try, fucking TWICE) and have like 24 points into skill and it's upgraded to +4 and it feels like the damage I'm doing is absolutely fucking pitiful.

I'm sure it gets better the more you keep beefing shit up but at that point everything pretty much gets better. Like, I'm just gonna throw this character away because I've already put a bunch of points into skill and fuck this weapon. I like the range its transformed mode has but beyond that this is an utter shit weapon. That range just doesn't make up for its low damage when the Hunter's Axe easily has just as much range and easily does up to twice the damage. And fuck having to repair it all the time. Ever wanted to make Bloodborne not even harder, just more annoying? Use the Threaded Cane. Next time I'm gonna make a character that can wreck shit with a real man's weapon, like the Kirkhammer.
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Ignatio Mobius - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 00:18:20 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.697721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697716
You could always get the Blades of Mercy, those scale S with skill iirc.
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Hwoarang - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 09:07:33 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.697741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697716
The Kirkhammer is definitely a real man's weapon. It's my favorite weapon by far. You can wield it nimble or you can wield it using expert timing to stun the enemy. Honestly, I think it's the best weapon in the game, assuming you build your character just for that weapon. I've never been impressed by that great big holy Sword that's almost like the kirkhammer, simply because it just can't stun your enemies in place like the hammer can.
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Oxanna Kristos - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 11:14:33 EST ID:tkqfLmzl No.697747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697740
That's really what I hoped DLC for souls games would be, turn the horribleness up to 11 and make you feel powerless. Instead they're really just more of the same.
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The Arbiter - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:30:58 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.697755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697741
My only real problem with the Holy Blade is that it's basically easy mode. You don't get the stun but even when transformed it's fairly fast and deals a lot of damage. It's just uninteresting and not very fun to use, compared to other greatswords in the series. The massive damage those dealt were balanced incredibly well by really varied movesets and a much slower speed. Which Bloodborne is a faster game, yeah, so you expect it to be faster, but idk. Something about the Holy Blade just really doesn't do it for me, as someone that fucking loves the greatsword in DeS. You run around feeling like a tank but that's only once you get good with it. The Holy Blade's moveset makes it hard to be remotely bad with it at all.
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Geralt - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 14:20:54 EST ID:CfaRL4aN No.697759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697721

The problem with Blades of Mercy, Burial Blade, and Logarius' Wheel (for STR users) is what I like to call the "arcane tax." Even though it has excellent physical scaling, a significant chunk of the weapon's base damage is devoted to arcane damage, which only ever gets up to B scaling in Arcane. So to get the most out of the weapon, you'll have to go for a 50SKL/25ARC build or something thereabouts, and at that point you'd be better off just using a pure skill or strength weapon and buffing it.

I'm not saying hybrid weapons can't be viable, just in the end, you should be using a weapon for its moveset more than anything.
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Glacius - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 14:28:02 EST ID:3ejZfb/V No.697760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697755
The Holy Moonlight Sword is what you want. Much more interesting moveset and abilities. Mine has over 1000 AR with the right gems. Hits like a goddamn truck, has ranged attacks and the L2 can knock down and stunlock most enemies.
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Pitfall Harry - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 22:31:44 EST ID:FfmVJ1RG No.697842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697741
I see no real reason to use the Kirkhammer since we have the pizza cutter now. That said, kirk does righteous damage and slash one handed with blunt two handed while the pizza cutter is basically the opposite with serrated and blunt one handed with slash 2h iirc.
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Richard Aiken - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 04:12:26 EST ID:Vs5/HcIx No.697849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697760
That r2 stab with the holy moonlight sword in the non magic mode is absurdly strong for some reason
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Nodunaga Oda - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 08:38:36 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.697863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>DS2 in NG+
>Fighting Royal Rat Authority
>Die like 10 times keep gang raping me
>Finally kill them and begin widdling down at boss with lightning spears
>He does a vomit attack
>I launch one spear, he's one more away from death
>"Third Dragon Ring has broken!" IDC just let this end
>Fire 2nd spear, he dies
>1 second later I die from vomit
>Didn't count, do it all over again

That's enough for Dark Souls for today 😀
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Dr. Wily - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 09:47:51 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697863
Lol, that sucks.
FUnny enough, in BOTH of my playthroughs of DS3, I've died just after killing Aldrich. Once was by fire on the ground, once was by a lingering spell. But both times, because he died before I did, they counted, I just had to come back and get the boss souls.
That sucks dick lol.
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Liquid Snake - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 16:40:48 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.697883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So yeah, played through Ringed City. Beat the final boss today, and fucking hell what a great time that was. Also, that feel of reaching Ringed City proper must be one of the best gaming moments I've ever had.

So yeah, it's over. No more Dark Souls. It's done. And I don't know what to feel about it.
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Mr. Game & Watch - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:12:37 EST ID:azZR6D3D No.697940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697883
But now that dark souls is done maybe....we can get a DEMONS souls sequel!
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Heishiro Mitsurugi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 17:25:37 EST ID:YQjl9sVH No.697942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696651
Does anybody still play DaS1 on PC? Low level stuff is totally barren...
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Marc Kai - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:26:34 EST ID:CfaRL4aN No.697947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697940

We already have one in Bloodborne. At the end of DeS, magic departs from the world so technology and (blood) medicine can advance. Great Ones still around tho.

I agree a legit Demon's Souls 2 would be fucking sick though.
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Dark Queen - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 18:27:12 EST ID:qetNtFM7 No.697948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey, I know DS1 had some issues on PC. How is the PC version of DS3? Saw it on sale a few days ago might get it.
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Samanosuke Akechi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:05:28 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.697950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697948
You need a pretty beefy processor to run it. I can play both 1 and 2 just fine but 3 is like 10 fps.
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Quan Chi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 19:16:59 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697948
Everything runs smooth as butter for me. I haven't had to mess with anything. My specs are like lower high-end. I can run DS3 on full settings, but I run FO4 on low settings. So it's basically equivalent to FO4 on low. Which is odd, because it seems like the textures are really beautiful in DS3, but it's probably because of being able to render small parts of each area at a time.
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Phoenix Wright - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:01:08 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.697954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697952
I have an AMD X2 545, only 4gb of RAM, and a GTX 660 Ti, it runs like total crap for me. Maybe it's because I downloaded a cracked version just to see if it would run on my computer before I forked over money for it.
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Nakoruru - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:34:40 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.697955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697954
Oh yeah, I've got a gtx970 4gb, 3.5mhz processor, and 16gb ram lol
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Nathan Drake - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:41:45 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.697956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>697114
I dig this idea. There actually is SOME Native American influence in Bloodborne. There are a lot of similar themes going on in both BB and DS3, the same sort of thing could apply to this idea IMO.

and this. I don't want to see an eastern themed "Soulsborne" anytime soon. Other games like Nioh will fill that void.
>>697118
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Toad - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:11:21 EST ID:tYlkfG0z No.697964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tribal Souls sounds cool. If instead of going into space, they went back in time even further, and mashed together primal/tribal themes/worlds, that would be pretty neat too
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Jill Valentine - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 19:58:19 EST ID:BLQOLP0F No.698016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>697954
the 4gb ram is likely a bottleneck.
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Eric Lecarde - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 13:35:12 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So what do you guys think of the VaatiVidya lore videos?
I can admit I've spent a few hours watching his lore videos.
He puts so much work, and diligence in them. He scrounges through all the descriptions in the game and puts together pieces of lore that I would probably never notice, even if I spent a whole playthrough, carefully reading every description.
This video is really good, especially the parts on The Nameless King.
He starts off talking about Nameless, and ends up circling back with some really interesting concepts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CP9bliNKbnc
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Cinder - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 21:23:36 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.698073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698048
>He puts so much work, and diligence in them. He scrounges through all the descriptions in the game and puts together pieces of lore that I would probably never notice, even if I spent a whole playthrough, carefully reading every description.
lol not sure I'd go that far. He was busted like two years back for stealing other people's work from circlejerk posts and the like and honestly I wouldn't be too surprised if it were an ongoing thing, considering how popular Souls lore has risen in popularity parallel to the games. Still, they're entertaining videos if you're into this stuff, I can't deny that. Although I do think he ends up oversimplifying some things or glossing over some important details, and that maybe his writing in general isn't the best I've heard, these videos aren't a bad place to start if you're into this stuff.

If you're interested in Bloodborne lore I'd really recommend reading Redgrave's The Paleblood Hunt, and checking out his YouTube series titled The Little Things in Yharnam. Really in depth work from this guy.
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Ebisumaru - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 21:55:28 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.698076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698073
>Redgrave's The Paleblood Hunt
It was a good read but I disagree with a lot of his theory. Mainly I think there is different races of great ones/old blood. Whereas he thought the Kin were impure great ones, I thought the Kin were just another race of great one. I think this explains the shit you see in the game much better, the blood of each great one brings different transformations: beasts, kin, fish, and whatever the pthumerians are (cthulhu things).
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Eric Lecarde - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 22:49:18 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698073
Well even if he doesn't come up with it all on his own, you gotta admire the way he compiles it all. I still think it's great.
>aren't a bad place to start
So if I wanna go deeper what do you recommend?

Also, I think his writing style is pretty good, but it's his voice that makes the videos pretty great.
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Cinder - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 23:15:36 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.698078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698077
>even if he doesn't come up with it all on his own, you gotta admire the way he compiles it all. I still think it's great.
Yeah, fair enough, not trying to shit talk the guy or trying to tell you not to enjoy it. He makes fine content. It really is just small things I take issue with in his videos and it's purely subjective.

>So if I wanna go deeper what do you recommend?
Wikis, honestly. Scour them up and down. On top of that tons of stuff has been written about Souls lore already. If there's any one particular thing you're interested in, just google it and I'm sure someone out there has compiled something about it and has written their own theories regarding it. There's really no shortage of this stuff these days.
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Patroklos Alexander - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 01:42:01 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698251
How is that? Souls games are constantly being balanced for pvp.
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Cheetahmen - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 05:14:17 EST ID:tYlkfG0z No.698340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698325
I think he means the game world/setting... I kind of agree. BB is very tight, very focused and specific. DS is a mishmash of dark/medieval fantasy and thus has a wider of array of sources to draw from. BB is Gothic Victorian with Elder Gods and werewolves. DS is one big melting pot of fantasy concepts. If you take away the 'Miyazaki Touch' that they both share, I can see how BB would seem more 'polished' than DS
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Uriel Septim - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 11:25:27 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.698359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698340
The health regen system in BB was pretty epic. Really gave you incentive to fight aggressively, since if you did it right you could earn back any health you lost. Yet they counter this with a riposte system where you just wait for aggressive characters and then stun/crit them, which also heals you for like all of your health. Long story short, whoever is the best fighter wins, regardless of whether they're offensive or defensive.
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Aribeth - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:49:08 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.698364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698359
I had trouble connecting with people and I didn't like the standard invasion rules (outside of a nightmare you must summon before being invaded) but overall I enjoyed BB's pvp the most. The argument "BB ruined DS3s combat" is something I would entirely disagree with IF the game was exclusively single player. The variety of DS3 is nice, I think it just starts to show it's cracks when you go online.

The majority of pvp matches in DS3 outside of "fight clubs" involved the other guy just spamming attacks because they had stamina for days. For example if someone used that same "technique" with the Kirkammer or Greatsword in BB I'd figure someway around it. Like you say and I agree (for the most part) whoever is the best fighter in BB wins. DS3 seemed more RPG build based.

As for all the roll talk, ya it's a bit much in 3. I honestly think the actual animation of a roll has a lot to do with it. They need something else IMO. I know the dodge works different than the role mechanically but it looks a hell of a lot less goofy and out of place when spammed.
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Aribeth - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 13:55:23 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.698366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sorry for the double post but the roll talk got me thinking of FROM's next game. You guys seen this? I know it's little to nothing but it suggests their working on SOME sort of first person game. If it's a Soulsborne in first person, nobody gotta worry about rolling... I would fucking hope...

For those that don't know, FROM has 3 projects in the works. An Armored Core reboot, some sort of Soulsborne and something "really weird".
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Norton Mapes - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 14:28:26 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.698372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698366
Maybe its another Kings Field game
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Patroklos Alexander - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:30:43 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just watched some gameplay from Kingsfield 4 and couldn't help but notice the stark resemblence to Undead Parish, Anor Londo, The Cathedral, etc. The building on the left looks like the Cathedral when you look at it from the bridge. I think it's pretty cool the way From recycles ideas and styles.
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Patroklos Alexander - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 15:31:40 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698380
Not to mention the recurring themes of darkness and sunlight.
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Scott Shelby - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 16:06:21 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.698384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698366

Cool. I'd be totally down for a Fromsoft FPS. Should be really interesting, especially if they keep that difficult-but-fair and interconnected maps shtick.

Even better, soulsborne from From is still a thing. Even if it's a DS2 level IP, I'd buy that shit. Bloodborne sequel for PC hopefully but anything to scratch that itch.


>>698372

Word is that they are working on a new IP. So probably no King's Field.>>698366
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Yugo Ogami - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 22:34:43 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.698416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698372
>>698384

I don't have the source so take this with a grain of salt but APPARENTLY King's field is someone else's "Baby" not Miyazaki's and he doesn't feel he has the right to fuck with it. At least one of them is a new IP. I do think were going to get "not Kingsfield" like Dark Souls is "not Demonsouls".

Fuck me, I don't wanna buy VR anytime soon tho lol. I hear RE7 is actually great with it and not a huge mess.
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Chell - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 16:48:19 EST ID:pQdLwrRf No.698473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698442
I wonder if this is the souls-like game they have in development or the "weird" one they have in development
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Nemesis - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 20:33:34 EST ID:WXZAyf61 No.698483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698442
Like the dude above me said it looks like it could totally be a phone game or something. Maybe a Switch game since we know From is making one.

It could actually be From, I kinda doubt it but it could. Miyazaki worked on Bloodborne while Dark Souls 2 was being developed so I think after Dark Souls was a huge success they expanded quite a bit. Probably a decent sized studio in 2017.

But also Bandai Namco is fuckmongous and it could just be a nod and have nothing to do with From. So fuck it, game looks cool anyways :)
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Lan Di - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 19:26:26 EST ID:6rmGULFr No.698553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698442
Nice Sprite *download*
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Trainer Red - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 23:56:50 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Chest ahead
therefore Praise the Sun!!
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Trainer Red - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:11:28 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>696651
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Trainer Red - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:13:24 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698585
Just droppin off some Souls artwork I've collected
RIP Lautrec
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Trainer Red - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:14:21 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698586
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Trainer Red - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:19:46 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698590
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Trainer Red - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 01:21:11 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698591
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Chun-Li - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 22:05:23 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So for DS3, what do y'all think is best for PVE?
Quality? Strength?
Pyromancies, magic or clerics?

I've never done a mage, and I've only done strength builds. I'm doing a pyro rn and it's pretty fun. Pyro can also use cleric spells and magic spells which is pretty cool.
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Marshall Law - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 20:29:26 EST ID:tYlkfG0z No.698682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pyro all day erry day
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Kim Kaphwan - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 09:28:33 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.698705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698656
>Best for PVE?
Magic, hands down. There literally is no comparison.
Not only does magic do massive damage, but it also allows you to turn invisible. You can't beat that, especially when some enemies can kill you literally just by seeing you.
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Toad - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:32:11 EST ID:Fo/Sj7L/ No.698726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698717
This guy gets it
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Heihachi Mishima - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 09:19:05 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.698751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698717
>The best PVE build is whatever you are personally best with, or enjoy the most.
Well, that's just now how video games work. There are objectively better/best strategies. This guy was asking us what the best is, we told him what's what, I don't see a point in telling him 'just use whatever you want!' Like he came to us for advice.
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Mr. X - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:50:24 EST ID:w17iyDXB No.698787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698717
lol no. For every game there is a definitive strongest strategy, stat sheet, cert pool, what ever. It is an inherent problem when outcomes are dependent on equations and functions rather than physically simulated.
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Radical Rex - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 19:58:17 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698787
No shit sherlock, the posters point was that specific strategies work better for different people. Not sure how that missed you.
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Guy - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 21:32:53 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.698797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698717
Lolno. In every soulsborne game the best strategy if you're just doing one NG is to get health to 40 immediately, then maybe some endurance, that's all that really matters. The damage you get from strength/dex/whatever in NG1 is negligible, you'll do the most damage with a +10 raw infusion weapon until you start getting your attack stats up to like 30+. If you're going farther you'll want to do a quality build stat wise.

For specific games:
Heavy armor and heavy weapons are best in Dark Souls 1
Dark Souls 2 is fairly balanced and other than the above, all builds are nearly equally viable (magic still kinda sucks)
In Dark Souls 3 heavy armor and weapons are absolute fucking garbage and you should not use them.
In Bloodborne the holy quality sword will give you the highest damage if you get your stats up, before that you just do 40 health and use whatever weapon you feel like because it doesn't matter.

I haven't played demon souls in ages and I only really beat it once, so I don't actually know what's going on in that game.
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The Prince - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:21:53 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698820
Don't say while OnlyAfro is around
https://youtu.be/oyA8odjCzZ4
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Four - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 06:51:49 EST ID:JnjeAtH/ No.698825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698823
>Posts a couple of edited videos of him fighting retards
>Its the best build you guys, trust me

Magic/stamina focus is the best build. Just keep spamming and rolling and you cant lose
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Mother Brain - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 08:50:59 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.698828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698819
OK, but factually, based on statistics, the objectively best strategy on paper will yield the most success amongst all players using it. That's not a question, that's a fact.

If you don't want to use the objectively best set up, that's fine, but you should at the very least know what it is, incase you care to implement any of it into your own strategy.

>>698797
>Don't use heavy weapons or armor in DS3
Really now? Then why is it sooooo easy for me to kill other players in DS3?
Full Dragon Knight armor, Dragon Slayer Greataxe, Greatshield of Glory.
That's my set up, and truly I fear no opponent and slay many. I'm a Mound Maker. I run around the end-game areas helping people out, and then when I get the chance I turn on them and murder them. I kill everybody, and let me tell you, there's almost nothing they can do to get through my shield. It's literally hilarious watching them try to get me to drop my guard.
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Zerg - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 09:09:56 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.698829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698825
>when you're so serious about DS that you miss the joke about being overly serious about DS
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Guy - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 10:25:29 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.698832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698828
If you weren't a complete fuckwit you'd have noticed I was talking about the best PVE builds. There are lots of viable heavy weapons in DS3 for PVP. But heavy weapons are garbage for PVE because almost every boss has very fast movesets that give you very few if any windows to attack with slower, heavier weapons. This is opposed to DS1 where nearly every boss is slow and really vulnerable to heavy weapons.
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Kain - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 14:32:41 EST ID:CMAOPcJv No.698840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just posting my undying love for the meat cleaver. 2h and weighed nothing, broad-reaching attacks, and distinct profile. you see an opponent with THAT over their shoulder you know what's about to happen. only weapon i truly getted gud with.

had zero luck against invaders back in the day until i got the cleaver and became familiar with the sweeping moves and the short aoe move. interrupted so many wrath of gods. miss u.
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Mother Brain - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 15:19:04 EST ID:mQ9cgA66 No.698842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698832
>If you weren't a complete fuckwit.
Wow, cool reply. Ignored permanently. But by the way, I found DS3 pretty easy with my heavy weapons build, so your advice is garbage anyway. But whatevs, talk to you never.
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The Prince - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:44:50 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So, considering that you guys are all too autistic to simply give an opinion on the best pve build...
What's the best PVP weapon?
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Earthworm Jim - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 20:32:48 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.698875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698859
+15 Iaito
People try to parry that R2 but it's delayed motherfucker eat 300 damage
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Captain Price - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 07:18:02 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698442
More info on this Banda-Namco game.
It sounds so much like Dark Souls, but as a vampire. Honestly it sounds pretty dope, I'm excited.
Pic is from a magazine cover, which the IGN article references.

>Code Vein takes place in a near dystopian future, where players take control of Revenants, vampires with supernatural abilities who have transcended humanity and lost their memories as a result. A Revenant who has failed to consume enough blood transforms into a monster called a "Lost," which the short animation last week touched upon.

>For an unknown reason, the vampires are confined to an isolated society known as "Vein," and must cooperate with each other to survive and reveal the secrets and lost knowledge of the world. When exploring a dungeon, players can bring a single "Buddy" with them, a main feature of Code Vein. These Buddies help players overcome challenges, and will act on their own as an AI, but players will need to act to help them out as well.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2017/04/18/code-vein-is-bandai-namcos-new-action-rpg
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Manny Calavera - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 13:32:31 EST ID:CfaRL4aN No.698917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Damn, I've played this game at least 15 times over, and I've never seen this area before. Dark Souls never fails to amaze me.
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Ulfric Stormcloak - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:12:06 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.698937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698918
Tales game? Is that a series I don't know of?
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Mankar Camoran - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:18:55 EST ID:L2NVp5Je No.698938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698937
Tales of Zestiria, Tales of Berseria, Tales of Symphonia
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Soma Cruz - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:22:59 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698917
lol yeah. That's the giant that opened the door when he heard the bells.
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The Nameless One - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:26:37 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.698943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698910

What the hell... Uh okay. I hope it isn't to weeby, Dark Souls has always tested me in that regard.

Are we gonna collect Blood tho, cause that's kinda Bloodbourne's thing... Also, the companion is reminding me of Dragon's Dogma which I'm playing right now. I think that has the potential to be cool, I wonder if the companion will be strictly AI or if a human can jump into the role.
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Soma Cruz - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:07:00 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698943
It sounded like a human or AI can take the role. But yeah it's probably gonna be pretty weebish.
But it ISN'T fromsoft, it just looks like Bandai Namco is just drawing some inspiration in terms of gameplay mechanics, but besides that there isn't really any relation (well except the tagline)
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Black Whirlwind - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:31:40 EST ID:CfaRL4aN No.698946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698942

I always assumed he was a "cutscene only" NPC or one of the other giants just moved after opening the gate. I got lucky that I saw this message on the ground in front of the illusory wall, and I'm glad I made a habit of always attacking walls in front of those messages, even when I know 100% that they're lying.

There'a also a "secret" room at the beginning of the Undead Burg that not many people know about apparently, took me a while to accidentally stumble on it. Makes me wonder if there are any other secret places across the games that the community at large doesn't know about.
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Kerrigan - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 21:53:29 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.698947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698946
A few days ago, I saw somebody had left a message on that little rooftop off the edge of the scaffolding where the firebomb throwers are in the burg. I googled it and it turns out there's 3 different spots you can jump from the upper burg to lower burg and skip having to get the basement key from the parish. You can let griggs out ASAP and get magic. Idk how many years I've been playing this game, never knew any of that.
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E. Honda - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 00:46:18 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.698953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698946
Yeah unlike any other souls game in that regard. I still learn something new about the game every time I go through it.
I remember the thing that blew my mind the most was the secret area in darkroot garden behind a living tree. First of all that tree is wholly unique as an 'illusory wall'. Second of all the frog ray enemies (they drop the green blossoms) exist ONLY IN THAT SMALL SECRET AREA. It just blew my mind man, on my fifth playthrough I found this secret area that contained an entirely unique enemy I had never seen before. Fuck.
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Soma Cruz - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 01:05:34 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.698954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698953
Right! Not to mention that there was a secret area beyond that secret area lmao. From that secret area you make a skill jump over the cliff ledge you were on before to get to a ledge on the other side, where the Wolf Ring (I believe) was at.
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The Nameless One - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 10:20:59 EST ID:rYW5DxZx No.698961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698953

So what you're telling me is you passed through Darkroot 5 times, saw the Wolf Ring dangling off the cliff, and never asked "How the hell do I get that?"
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King Hippo - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 12:14:55 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.698962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698961
The Wolf Ring is boss as hell
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Ares Enduwa - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 14:07:15 EST ID:qq0K1W+q No.698964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>698954
Pretty sure you get a ring that gives extra stamina regen there. Wolf ring is in a secret place back in darkroot garden IIRC.
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LeChuck - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 00:22:48 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.699045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699040
Yeah those speedruns are pretty insane. I think the fastest one is 20 something minutes. It's pretty crazy to see that people have it that well figured out considering it took me sooo long to beat it the first time.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 22:29:26 EST ID:hzlL2TqJ No.699220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699208
I had some issues with another game doing this, was the xbox wired controller I was using. One of those "windows detects you plugged some shit in m8" kinda deals. It was either the stupid home button in the middle getting stuck and randomly pressing paired with a short in my wire causing the USB shit to think it just got plugged and unplugged.
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Sheik - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:04:48 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.699221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699220
Dude, that could be it, I'm using a shitty gamestop 360 controller. On top of that, it's attached to a USB extension cable, so there's even more potential mischief. The fucking thing was even causing my BIOS to hang on bootup. Thanks for the tip mate!
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:34:03 EST ID:hzlL2TqJ No.699222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>699221
eyo
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Samanosuke Akechi - Fri, 05 May 2017 13:56:21 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.699684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Bob the Killer Goldfish - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:04:42 EST ID:iUf1l5uW No.699692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699684
good idea to bump this thread up this board needs more souls
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Darkwing Duck - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:10:59 EST ID:eWDwPAGE No.699693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>699692
did somebody say souls?
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Samanosuke Akechi - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:22:22 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.699694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699693
Speaking of: I've been playing a lot of Dota lately, haven't been on my pyro in a while, and I haven't played the expansion areas. How are they? I started the icy world one, and didn't get very far and gave up. Any good bosses?
Also, I don't have Ringed City but I've heard it's really hard, and there's a super hard boss, Manus I think?
Any stories of Manus?
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Samanosuke Akechi - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:24:13 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.699695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>699694
forgot image
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Cervantes de León - Fri, 05 May 2017 16:32:25 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.699696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>699694

Ashes of Ariandel, the winter world, has a really cool last boss as well as a good optional boss which really took me by surprise. Like wtf From.

Other than that it's rather frustrating and short. Only reason you should get it is its multiplayer shit.


Now the Ringed City however; if you liked DS3, GET IT. I won't spoil anything, it's a joy to explore and the difficulty is harsh but fair as it should be. Just don't rush into things and keep your eyes open. Last boss is jaw dropping.
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Frogger - Wed, 10 May 2017 00:37:46 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.699946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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👌
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Kirby - Wed, 10 May 2017 01:17:48 EST ID:BEQpwYLv No.699948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699694
Darkeater Midir is the hard boss. And yeah, he's hard.
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Red XIII - Wed, 10 May 2017 13:05:28 EST ID:4D35M/Od No.699958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For me Dark Souls 3 is like crack.

I get high on crushing it followed by the debilitating mental health issues from getting cheap shotted to death.

Super into the PVP, but the culture is pretty toxic. The already cheap shot style PVE becomes an order of magnitude more difficult when you have some asshole swinging on you whenever you have your back turned to them.

It's amusing to see invaders complain about ganking while never playing fairly themselves. And if you aren't invading in the swamp or pontiff sullivans, it's not ganking. I personally like a good 3v3 match in the game maps, but you can't have that with only invaders because they just gang bang you.

I've had assholes throw hunter charms at me while chugging their OJ WHILE getting a beatdown from me.I mean, how are you gonna bitch about being 2v1'd when you play like a piece of shit?

And the fucking edge lords. Holy shit. The slow walking. The down pointing. The black leather and capes. Those are cancerous tumors.

Sorry, I have really strong feelings about this game. I think I play it too much.
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Hong Yun-seong - Wed, 10 May 2017 16:11:05 EST ID:7XDJvQTr No.699967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699958
Yeah I've noticed a lot of problems with ds3 pvp that ds1 didn't really suffer from. Getting back stabbed by people in front of you sucked because of latency issues, but at least it was fking consistent. I was doing some invasions last night and came upon a host and his phantom, and I'm engaging the host while keeping an eye on his buddy, who was determinedly running into a wall. All of a sudden I start taking hits, and I swing the camera around and the phantom is still running and swinging at the damn wall, but it's hitting me across the map. And then the host points down like he actually done something other than chug estus and get thrashed.

I ain't even mad. I'm pretty much just going through for the experience cuz I finally got a CPU that can run ds3, but ds1 pvp is still good n active.
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Toad - Wed, 10 May 2017 16:24:32 EST ID:Xp4CaCH4 No.699969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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should I do a magic or faith build next, whats more fun? My last was a pyro/str and that was great, mostly just used carthus flame arc though so this time I want to make sure to use a wide variety of sorceries or miracles and bump up that attunement
I'll be using a weapon and staves or talismans for either so I can have spells/miracles and something for when I run out of MP
the dark sword seems like a good option for INT builds, infused with crystal it has S int scaling
how about faith builds? Whats a good weapon for those?
also best sorceries and miracle suggestions would be great
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Frogger - Wed, 10 May 2017 17:39:59 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.699975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol, all valid points. Tbh, I think pvp is one of the low points of the whole DS series, besides DS2 I think, which seemed to be really balanced. DS3 has a lot of weapons that are just way too gimmicky so I can't really get into it.
I mostly just play offline because I don't even want to deal with invaders. Or even jolly cooperate, I just want to do it solo.

>>699969
As far as I know there aren't any weapons that scale great with faith.
But I'm pretty sure there is a staff that allows you to cast sorceries and miracles, if you're so inclined.
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Frogger - Wed, 10 May 2017 17:40:32 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.699976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699975
Meant to respond to >>699958
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Akuma - Wed, 10 May 2017 20:44:12 EST ID:NkrgFLaM No.699987 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>699975
i think its worth doing it all solo first...its the proper way to really experience the game

but after that, i started to get my kicks from helping dummies beat bosses like dancer and stuff. the past 2 hours i just been pitched outside dancer while doing stuff around my room. Met a few people to talk to and had some good times, as well as really learning the fight hands-down

havent even beaten abyss watchers so far with this new toon, i just been getting so wrapped up getting souls from joining in boss fights
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Heihachi Mishima - Thu, 11 May 2017 14:34:45 EST ID:4D35M/Od No.700024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>699969

For DS3 I started an str/fth build.

My only problem with it is that I rely so heavily on melee.

Casting speed of anything ranged relys on dex, so 'if you want to be a castah,' you're better off going with a dex weapon such as Dragonslayer Spear or Dragonslayer Swordspear or sunlight blade. I tried all of them out, but like I said earlier, I'm a fan of PVP so my choices in game kind of revolve around that.

My favorite out of the three was Dragonslayer Spear cause of that badass weapon art, but I find that the R1/R2 attacks are a little slow for me, and way too predictable. I would think it would be easy to parry a spear since it's the same thrusting move over and over again. But in PVE, Dragonslayer Spear is a beast.

I honestly didn't find a way I liked integrating casting miracles into my play style. I don't like the non-buff miracles in DS3, which is funny cause I couldn't throw enough lightning bolts in DS2. But I've seen it in PVP and you can't hit shit with a lightning bolt unless you chain it into a combo.

What I ended up doing was running an STR/FTH build and using FTH buffs only; tears of denial and dark blade with Crucifix of the Mad King. It suits my play style perfectly; Long reach, varied attacks, strong poise L2, random weapon art, and hits like a truck.

All that said, I fought a guy ganking in PVP as a faith caster and he was wrecking shit using the melee casts: Lightning Stake, Wrath of the Gods, Force. Very respectable build, don't normally see pure casters outside the magic glass tank crystal spear build.

Maybe I should make a pure caster. Might be fun.
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Aya Brea - Thu, 11 May 2017 21:17:54 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.700048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700030
Yes, it's the Sage Ring, and it's essential for my pyro build. It virtually gives you +30 dex but it only applies to casting time. It makes a huge difference.
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Servbot - Fri, 12 May 2017 13:37:05 EST ID:iUf1l5uW No.700076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I never got to play dark souls 3 yet cause im too poor to buy anything to play it on...

how does it compare to ds1 & 2
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Duke Nukem - Fri, 12 May 2017 14:00:26 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.700079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700076
It feels like Dark Souls 1, but it's linear like Dark Souls 2 basically. Even though Dark Souls 1 was pretty linear, it just didn't tell you the path to take. I love it.
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Servbot - Fri, 12 May 2017 14:37:39 EST ID:iUf1l5uW No.700083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700079
gotta admit i've replayed ds1 many times more than ds2, and it's a lot less linear when i've picked the master key although somewhat still linear cause i can't do anor londo at a very low level
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Servbot - Fri, 12 May 2017 14:47:06 EST ID:iUf1l5uW No.700085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>700083
wait that makes no sense
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Stryker - Wed, 24 May 2017 12:14:34 EST ID:hVjcdjR/ No.700905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700901
You get nothing from him.
Do enough damage and he flies off.

Yep.
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Samanosuke Akechi - Wed, 24 May 2017 15:16:20 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.700914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700905
You actually can get a single large titanite shard off of him which aren't exactly plentiful early to mid game. I usually wind up going back to high wall and shooting him with a bow when in need
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Aeries Gainsborough - Tue, 30 May 2017 16:31:00 EST ID:lZD/4X8G No.701291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So it's been rumored the "normal" From Software game is "Shadow Wail" apparently leaked for about a week now. Just information BUT a bunch of people seem to think this is just a huge fuck up and the leaker is confusing this with another game, Absolver. I admit it does sound possible but if Bloodborne was leaked with no images I'm sure plenty of people would assume it was actually just The Order 1886.

Anyways apparently it has a myan/inca/aztec sort of vibe going on and it's more focused on hand to hand melee combat. Once again, this could just be that Absolver game and the leaker fucked up.
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Ares Enduwa - Tue, 30 May 2017 20:13:40 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.701304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700901
There's a claymore up there, and also a large shard, and a way to a room that has a deep battle axe up there. All three are pretty great early game.
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Geralt - Tue, 30 May 2017 22:54:43 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.701306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>701291
If the next souls game is in fact going to be a mesoamerican hand to hand combat game then it sounds awesome
Still holding out hope for bloodborne 2 though
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Geralt - Wed, 31 May 2017 23:30:11 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.701362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>701306
They'd only have to change the aesthetics for Sen's fortress slightly. Just make it a massive Mesoamerican pyramid, but leave everything else the same.
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Raiden - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 01:45:15 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.701366 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>701362
An entire game built like Sen's funhouse?
Might as well buy a couple extra controllers to break right now
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68 - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 08:54:03 EST ID:fQfqCuZ4 No.706240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>What maketh Dark Souls?
The lore? The setting? The difficulty?
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Zidane Tribal - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 09:52:06 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.706244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My brother had my play demon souls and I couldn't wrap my head around it.

I made it probably like a 1/3 the way through DS1 before giving up.

I refunded DS3 shortly after introduction area.

Was given a PS4 a month ago, I've beaten Bloodborne 3 times, 2 times with the DLC included. Other than Ludwig I'm pretty sure I've beaten all the bosses in one try during one of those playthroughs. It's made me think I should reconsider the Souls games, but ultimately I really don't want to deal with a class system or risk spending all my souls breaking my favorite weapon (which I know I'll do). Plus parrying with the gun is just a fundamentally easier to use mechanic than parrying (when you can) in souls.
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Soap MacTavish - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:06:12 EST ID:wrnl2tBW No.706246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706244
It's not that difficult to look up stats to find out which way to go with a weapon.

That or you could just git gud.
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Zidane Tribal - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 10:12:17 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.706247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706246
Or I could do and have any number of experience not related this series, or even video games at all.
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John Shepard - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 11:24:00 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706244
I say give 'em a second chance, you're likely to find something you like, if you just stick with it. Bloodborne was the game that got me into the series, the earlier ones just never clicked with me. After finishing Bloodborne though I immediately went into Demon's Souls and loved it.
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Kyle Katarn - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 13:33:17 EST ID:MPZdwmGL No.706252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i am not trying to rustle any jimmies by asking this, but i know i may anyway. i have never played or seen played any of the souls games. all i know of it are references to it from 420chan. from the pics and webms ive seen it basically looks like a grimdark version of skyrim crossed with diablo. what about this game is so unique that makes people praise it so highly? i dont think ive ever seen a post that had only negative things to say about the games.
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Heihachi Mishima - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:28:11 EST ID:wLXaYh93 No.706260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706252
It's a 3D action beat em up but what separates it from the genre is that you can't cancel out of moves. So if you're using a big powerful slow attack you better make sure it's going to hit cause you can't decide to dodge mid swing.

You also drop all your souls upon death with act as both xp and money. But if you're spending regularly you should never really have too much on you at a time.

The games biggest thing going for it is that every accomplishment is satisfying. There's no way to to grind xp until it gets easy, level gains aren't that generous. So when you get through an area or beat a boss you know it's because you were on your toes.

There is some cryptic shit like jumping out of elevators mid trip to discover new areas, killings npcs who are perfectly nice or even helpful to unlock new paths, or having fire magic work off of dexterity for no reason, or having to learn the difference between a slashing magic weapon and a piercing enchanted weapon. But if you're willing to be look it up online or just play bloodborne you really don't need to worry about it.
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Kyle Katarn - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:26:47 EST ID:MPZdwmGL No.706265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706260

so the main appeal is simply that it is challenging? i dont think that fully explains the love i see people have for this game
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Ermac - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:38:38 EST ID:y9mlyb8M No.706266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706265
It feels kind of weird saying this but I guess DS1 is 8 years old at this point and demons' is even older, but its a product of its time

They're not actually that hard once you get used to the gameplay, but they are unforgiving, you're just dropped in a giant maze and told to struggle time and time again until you find your way out of it, the atmosphere is lonely and indifferent and the game taunts you to do your best or give up, and it doesn't really care if you give up. The gameplay is very measured and calculated, high risk high reward dodging and counterhitting. Now take that and remember it was coming out alongside uncharted and assasin's creed sequels that tutorialized everything, assumed the player was a braindead monkey, reduced the gameplay experience as much as it could to setpiece cutscenes with quicktime event's, in an era when literally everything played like Arkham Asylum and player character's were virtually unkillable.

"Soulslike" has basically replaced the Arkham Asylum/Asscreed clones as the default way action games look and feel.
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Heihachi Mishima - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:45:09 EST ID:wLXaYh93 No.706267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706265
It's challenging in a way that assures satisfaction with any and all progress.

Ultimately you do have infinite lives and depending on the game health items are also infinite or easily farmed. And unless you're actively trying to not learn you'll find ways to progress better.

Another aspect people love is the lore style story telling. Where you'll learn more about a character from the item description of the weapon they drop more so than anything expressed in dialog.
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John Shepard - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 19:51:46 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>706265
They're just well designed games, more or less. These games at their best have well built and visually amazing worlds with consistent logic behind them. Plus they function really well mechanically and manage to make something like death both incredibly consequential but not frustrating. It's not just that it's challenging. It's that the games are fair. If these were just hard games being as hard as they could for the fuck of it then it wouldn't really matter, there are other games out there that do that and don't gain this level of appreciation. It works so well in this instance because the sense of accomplishment you get isn't from overcoming bullshit, but actually fair, well designed, thoughtfully crafted challenge.

Also the level design in these games is on fucking point. If you like the shortcut-iness and large, interconnected maps of something like Metroid or Castlevania, then the Soulsborne games are likely the best example to point to that's done it exceptionally well in a 3D space.

Beyond that there are fairly deep RPG mechanics that actually matter. It's certainly possible to break these games with an OP build or weapon, but for the most part there's a good bit more freedom in what kind of build you want to go for and your choices for your character here matter way more than they would in something like Skyrim. What's incredible about this though is that even the best build won't completely carry you through the games either (except, like, Demon's Souls fucked up superpowered magic system). It will make things easier, yes, but by their inherent design these games demand that you pay attention and play well, on at least some level. There's a reason people can play through these games at Soul Level 1.

And this is to mention nothing of amazing character and monster designs, the fully realized sense of atmosphere, the awesome soundtracks, the extensive weapon-by-weapon movesets, or even really anything about how well the combat itself actually functions. Just play them, go toward the first one that initially appeals to you most, give it an honest shot, and don't give up immediately when shit goes south. Shit will go south, it's just the nature of these games.

I know I'm just a gushing fanboy at this point, but these games really are some of the best experiences you can have in gaming today. Not the only experiences worth having, by any means at all, but certainly some of the best.
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Dante - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:32:05 EST ID:MPZdwmGL No.706270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706268

alright you guys have convinced me. after years of mild curiosity about these games i will pick them up soon. if you want i can make a review thread of a noob's initial impressions of the game. what are the full titles and which came out first?
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Rayman - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 21:45:35 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706270
In order of release:
Demon's Souls
Dark Souls
Dark Souls 2
Bloodborne
Dark Souls 3
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Reaver - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 08:24:35 EST ID:UbGbYKFi No.706286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706270
Wikipedia that shit dumbass
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Simon Belmont - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 09:26:59 EST ID:Yu672WFe No.706290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700076
It's like Demon's Souls (still slower) met dark souls and they took out all the good parts of DeS. Good for a few playthroughs.
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Penelo - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 19:16:54 EST ID:FtiGKiWs No.706312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>700076
Pretty good game. They made armor more or less cosmetic so that was kind of a bummer. But the bosses are pretty good and the weapon arts can be real fun. The final DLC bosses are amazing. I'd rank them at the top of all the games easily.
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Kim Kaphwan - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 20:24:25 EST ID:UgE1sKGz No.706316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706265
From someone who is only mildly interested in the series, I have played 3 and a bit of demon souls
The biggest draw I feel to play it is the interesting way the story is told, it is largely a find it out on your own kind of game. The story isn't explicitly told to you, and that really keeps me going through what I feel at times can be extremely frustrating game mechanics. That being said, play with a controller, because the tutorials are all shown on controller, and the key bindings for keyboard are pretty jenky Despite that I am pretty far into it and have been using a keyboard all this time so it's not impossible, someone beat it with a guitar hero controller for fucks sake

I don't find the gameplay compelling at all, but I cannot deny how fair the combat is or how satisfying it is to beat a boss or difficult fight. There is a shit ton of different weapons, armor and builds that can all dramatically change the way you play the game.

Originally I found the level up system really confusing in terms of how to apply your skill points and what attributes did what. The first time I played through I ended up using a heavy armor/halberd build and only ended up doing something like 100 damage a swing. Every fight took ages. I ultimately restarted my game because I completely ruined that character.
I had to do some reading to figure out how to make a build that didn't suck butt.

And that really sums up the game for me. I ended up doing a lot of reading before I could really play and enjoy it. I don't think the game is very intuitive, and when you first start it is tons of trial and error. Eventually you learn what you're doing and everything that originally frustrated you, and everything you felt was wrong with the game turned out to be your misunderstanding of how the game is.

I feel like its a game that everyone should probably at least give a go, I think there are a lot of things to enjoy about it.
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Cage Midwell - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 00:59:00 EST ID:Sqo006vf No.706331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706265
How rewarding the game is due to the challenge is half of it for me. The other half is the lore. It's just a really awesome, cryptic, nebulous dark fantasy world. And the gameplay certainly feels as difficult, unforgiving and grim as the lore would make you believe which makes it all feel very real.
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Guybrush Threepwood - Sat, 26 Aug 2017 03:25:32 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706316
>And that really sums up the game for me. I ended up doing a lot of reading before I could really play and enjoy it. I don't think the game is very intuitive, and when you first start it is tons of trial and error.

You're right that it's not exactly intuitive and there's a lot of trial and error involved when you're first learning the mechanics, but if you've got a brain in your head and, possibly more importantly, the will to do it, you'll adapt. I've heard people say that reading up on mechanics and systems and how to play these games beforehand is absolutely required but I never did any of that shit. I've played through Bloodborne, DeS, and DS as purely single player experiences, and I too had to throw away a character or two in the process, but that was all part of the experience. I didn't immediately rush to Google to figure out what I was doing wrong. I just stuck with it and figured it out.

But I get that some people would rather not do that. They just want to get to what they consider the "actual game." To each their own. I think these games are far more rewarding and far more enjoyable if you just take your time and really bother to pay attention and learn the mechanics without any outside help though, because it totally isn't required to enjoy these games.
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Low-key - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 00:07:49 EST ID:W3sjCv7d No.706390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I haven't used the PvP modes in Soulsborne. I am missing out? PvE satisfies me for the moment.
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Guybrush Threepwood - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 00:29:54 EST ID:v4gcDDCv No.706391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706390
Nah.

At best, you get someone to help you get through area or leave you items before leaving your game. (at times in DS1, it was easier to invade than to be summoned for jolly co-operation)

At meh, you get a "fair" fight from someone invading that usually involves everyone circling around each other so someone can get a backstab.

At worst, you have some jackass that's clearly overpowered and is looking to show off their epeen by killing you before you even had a chance to react (the invade level range could be about 10 levels below to infinite above). I once had some guy kill me and my friend by himself, then wanted to help me down Ornstein and Smough (which he did effortlessly). So that was kinda cool.

The best PVP I've had was I was in that one bell tower in DS2, me and my friend was running through it some guy invaded and we were duking it out while my friend stood and watched (he believed in fighting fair), suddenly another person showed up and it became a tag team match playa and we wound up winning that battle.

Good times, except the times I got straight dominated.
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Donkey Kong Jr. - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 00:58:15 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706391
I've only had 2 PVP fights in the entirety of the series, one of which was possibly my favorite moment from any of the games. It was Demon's Souls, 5-2. The fight went on for like a half hour, we were pretty evenly matched and we both employed a fair deal more tactics than just backstabs. I loved that enemy players could run around the levels and try to bait you into enemies, especially if they're on the run trying to heal. It took a while but eventually I cornered the motherfucker and just wailed on him until he was dead.

>At best, you get someone to help you get through area or leave you items before leaving your game.
This is how my second PVP encounter went, it was in Dark Souls. Appreciated the gesture, but I hated it. I get kinda OCD about sequences being broken in games and this was no exception. Like thanks for opening this door and everything, but fuck you too because I wanted to discover and do this shit on my own.
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Hwoarang - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 18:30:18 EST ID:361ECxXs No.706415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706335
What? You mean the two most easily parried attacks?
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Joanna Dark - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 18:47:16 EST ID:IMq1LVU/ No.706416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706390
Yes PVP is one of the funniest things in soulsbourne. So much crazy awesome shit can happen.

I remember one guy invaded me and we both had katanas. We traded blows back and forth and were pretty evenly matched. We'd dodge, attempt parries, use firebombs, rolling attacks, and all such tricks. Anything to get a few hits in during our delicate back and forth. Finally it had got down to us both having just a sliver of health left. Throughout the fight I had been doing the running katana attack a fair bit because of its long reach. However, that attack is easy to parry and he had been trying to parry it all fight when he saw me start to run. So now, standing apart with each a sliver of health, I began to charge, determined to risk everything on one final gambit. I ran toward him and just as I closed the distance, I saw him start the parry animation. Everything moved in slow motion for me at this point. His cestus slowly swept across his chest, meanwhile, I had stopped dead in front of him and was just as slowly pulling out a kukri. As his parry animation finished, I planted a kukri in his forehead point blank, ending the duel.
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The Blob - Sun, 27 Aug 2017 22:04:12 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.706420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I recently came back to Bloodborne to do a completion run. I forgot how awesome that game was. At first I was like, where all da weapons. But then I was like, there is still quite a bit versatility in choosing how you play, as each weapon is vastly different than the next.

All time fav though is probably Dark Souls 3. I currently only multiplayer on it and create new builds for new pvp ideas. I spend alot of time ganking/invading in Pontiff's. I don't need to gank to win in pvp, and I don't farm souls either (I pick a soul level and stick to it), it's just fun to do.

If I'm trying to invade and get no hits, I go right to ganking. If I get no hits on ganking, I go back to invading. Seems to me that invaders need a world to invade and we all like a good 3v3. Sometimes I just end up getting people who want to just bullshit and fuck off. I actually got hatemail from someone because "I wasn't playing the game right." There were five of us running around spamming emojis and every time someone new would show up and pick a fight, we'd all jump em.

It was pretty funny stuff.
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Bullet Bill - Mon, 28 Aug 2017 04:35:02 EST ID:2bhmEXnU No.706429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel like DS1 had the best multiplayer. It might LOOK janky at times, but at least it was consistent. Your opponent would appear a half second behind on your screen from what he was actually doing, meaning it often looked like you got backstabbed by a dude in front of you. At the same time, if someone was fishing for a backstab, you could get it first by simply backing up and to the side, and on his screen it looks like he's just about to move into position and you backstab him out of nowhere. Parries just took getting used to, most of the time you had to had to anticipate a swing rather than directly reacting to it. But that made it feel fair, anyone who's spent time farming darkwraiths can probably reaction parry flawlessly, and PVP would just be a total shutdown on melee for both sides. The whole system allowed people to feel each other out, learn their tells, and when you parried some poor motherfucker, it felt like you were reading his goddamn mind and shit. Even the backstab on wakeup game had plenty of variety and reading your opponent.

Which feels like DS3's problem, parrying is way too easy, and there's not as much incentive to try and get inside your opponent's head. Pretty much every attack except for dagger spam can be parried on sight. The only deterrent to trying to parry is the 2 guaranteed hits for missing, and after getting parried a few times in a row people usually just start to spam consumables and magic. Which ends up being two dudes rolling in circles and hitting nothing most of the time.

Shout out to DS2's fucked up poise/hyperarmor system, which was pretty cool once you understood the ins and outs, because you could fucking trash people who didn't. It felt like being in a secret club of heavy weapon users who could just unload on anything smaller than a spear.
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James Earl Cash - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:05:05 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.706478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706416
Sexy
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Spyro the Dragon - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 20:38:20 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.706501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706429

I don't even bother with parry in DS3 unless I'm just troll spamming it. Which sadly works better than it should. I typically use ultraheavies which can't be parried unless you do something retarded. People normally don't bother to try parrying me but I get the occasional guy who thinks he can parry a greathammer which leads to general hilarity.

I love trashing parry kings. It's the best. If I'm not using an utraheavy, I just go for the backstab on the parry animation. Nobody ever expects the backstab.. cause it's hard as fuck to do now. DS1 pvp is backstab fishing ninja flipping havel monsters.

I still liked it, but I prefer my DS3.
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Gray Fox - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 22:01:40 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.706504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>706501
I love DS3. It's my favorite of the series so far. But the original Firelink Shrine will always hold a spot in my heart. Hell, even Majula too. That's one thing that DS3 is lacking, the firelink isn't very charming.

Anyways, I pretty much never do pvp because I always get stomped. I don't play often enough to get the meta down, so if I do pvp I get stomped every time. I actually just play offline and play pve, which is great in and of itself.

It really is my favorite game right now. I'm having a lot of fun with my first pyro playthrough right now. About to take on Yhorm.
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Sarah Kerrigan - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 12:01:24 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here, finally getting around to Dark Souls 1. After Bloodborne and DeS I think I needed a break from Souls games for a while, but I'm falling in love all over again. It's so good from what I've played.

I'm up to Sen's Fortress, been taking it slow and really exploring. Getting to know everything and everywhere. Blighttown wasn't nearly as bad as I've heard it made out to be over the years. Yes, the framerate was dogshit (playing on Plebstation 3) but as far as design goes I thought the Valley of Defilement and Nightmare of Mensis were way more of a pain in the ass. I expected Blighttown to be fucking miserable but it's really not that large, didn't take too long to get through, and the enemies (besides the toxic blowdart guys, fuck them) ain't that bad.

Like I said though loving the game, can't wait to get through Sen's Fortress and see what lies ahead. All of the bosses so far have been so fucking good.
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Vega - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 09:35:18 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OK yeah I'm checkin out of Dark Souls 1 for now. Ornstein and Smough. Fuck this fight, I'm salty as shit. Only real roadblock I've actually hit playing any of these games. I've had a few bosses I had to replay in Demon's and Bloodborne but it's never been anywhere close to this bad. Scrub status confirmed, I guess.
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Wander - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 09:59:35 EST ID:8WC9SvKE No.706619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706617

Try getting a Black knight halberd.
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Scott Shelby - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 10:02:02 EST ID:sATuWM/q No.706620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706617

O&S are the run killers. I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people gave up and became hollow from that fight.
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Vega - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 11:16:28 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.706625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706619
I may have one already, I know I've picked up more than a few halberds. I'll give it a shot when I decide to go back to it. I'm gonna have to grind a while to restock on humanity though, I ran through it all over the course of a few hours trying this fight by summoning Solaire, soloing these bastards was just pitiful. I didn't stand a chance.

I was on my last humanity and thought I had the fight won. I was fucking up super Smough pretty badly and still had like 7 estus uses left. But I was rolling away to try to use one and he got me with that wide swipe, then with the charge. Never felt more defeated in a game, I think. Like one more full combo and he would have been done for.

>>706620
Yeah I can see why. The salt's died down some though, the more I think about it the more I'm wanting to go back to it. These games are good for that.
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Alexander Romanov - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:38:00 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.706630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706504

When you're playing a human, there's alot more factors, but once you get comfortable with all your weapons attacks you'll be able to kill some folks.

You need to know how long your weapon is, you can't spam R1 the whole time, like 2-3 R1s max in a single combo, and you need to become familiar with the spacing/timing of enemy weapons which only comes with experience.

That and the character build needs to be min/maxed.. I guess it's more complicated than I thought. But once you get the hang of it it's pretty awesome.
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Alexander Romanov - Sat, 02 Sep 2017 13:45:31 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.706632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706617

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXZ6Avxx2DM
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Ezio Auditore da Firenze - Sun, 03 Sep 2017 11:49:07 EST ID:cYqr3fKg No.706695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just finished the mainline of SotFS and its DLC, 4 crowns baby. I bounced off it the first time after I got to the poison area.

That game was pretty fucking good.

The DLC was definitely a highlight, as is the fashions souls. It's probably the weirdest game of the series too (unless you count Demon Soul's purposeful inscrutability). Areas feel pretty random and the level design is often pretty uninspired.

But that doesn't matter when you're smashing everything to pieces with a greatsword or Darth Maul-ing it up with a twinblade. Just a shame that the armour set from that headless dude is pretty much best weight/protection ratio in the game so you see a lot of people wearing that dog head (I was wearing most of the set most of the game).

The bosses are a bit shit, lots and lots of knights with very similar movesets, few creature fights... and almost everything can be defeated by hugging it and sticking to its knee. Props to the final fight of the Elyceum DLC, got some serious Artorias vibes from that shit.

So now I've got to decide whether I'm going to start DS3 again to get a character ready for the DLC in that (which I haven't played) or hop back on the Skill build Bloodborne character I've been playing and punish myself with that whip with the aim of doing the Bloodborne DLC.

Good hard decisions.
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Companion Cube - Sun, 03 Sep 2017 19:41:59 EST ID:iUf1l5uW No.706724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>698586
Consider this
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Garrett - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 04:31:14 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.706839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>706695

Pimp cane is my favorite weapon out of the game. Shit wrecks. Bow blade for bosses.
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Seifer Almasy - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:10:33 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I ended up finishing Dark Souls 1. I fucking loved that game.

I started Dark Souls II: SotfS a few hours ago. I don't like this game very much.
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Chrono - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:14:20 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707177
I enjoy DS2, but it feels a lot different than DS1. But if you are intent on beating it, at least you know you will probably breeze through a lot of the bosses. Most of them are fairly easy. Which was my major complaint.
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Heihachi Mishima - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:50:39 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707185
I'm not sure I'll even stick with it, I might just go straight to DSIII. The combat just feels wrong in this game, to me. It's noticeably slower for one (could just be the improved framerate, I'm not sure, but it feels slowed down to me), rolling and its I-frames doesn't feel quite right to me yet, the movesets aren't as interesting from what I've seen, I straight up don't like some of the enemies at all, and I think in terms of enemy/character design everything just looks way goofier than it did in DS1. The first Dark Souls was (appropriately) dark fantasy and this feels more high fantasy, and the character designs kind of reflect that. Proportions are more exaggerated here and enemies don't look as threatening. Like, the big hippo and turtle guys just look dumb I think and don't really fit into the Dark Souls world.

Different doesn't mean bad though, but this is certainly different from the other games I've played. Personally I don't think for the better, but that's just me. Also not a fan of the menu redesigns in this. I've played through Demon's, Dark 1, and Bloodborne yet I'm still fumbling around menus and trying to figure out what these symbols stand for in stats? Bullshit. I know there's the help button that explains everything as you highlight it, and yeah, it's helpful, but I got used to the other games without that (sans Demon's, that's the most cryptic when it comes to this stuff) and the problem lies with the menu design itself. It just isn't very clear or all that good from the get go. It's something I can get used to but initially it just sucks. Dark Souls and Bloodborne's menu design were on point. This is not.

I don't know, I might stick with it but it's not compelling me much to. I don't like some of the new systems in place. I think life gems shouldn't exist and we should have just gone back to the Estus system from DS1. Also really don't like the enemy placement here. Like these areas are just overloaded with enemies and it feels kind of lazy and uninteresting. Which I'm aware that enemy placement was changed in SotfS. Was it better in the original? Because as it is I'm far more compelled to sooner just run past enemies in this than I am in the other games.
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Great Mighty Poo - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:53:22 EST ID:XxOi3597 No.707196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707194
yeah ds2 is weird. you can't outright call it a bad game but you can tell it's a very different affair from the first one, a lot of people only like 1 3 and bloodborne and that's perfectly understandable.
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Soap MacTavish - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 20:58:03 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.707199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707194
Yeah life gems are bullshit. It just makes no sense to have unlimited healing items. And yeah a lot of times they are very lazy with making the game creatively difficult so they just cram a whole bunch of shit into an area and call it a day.

DS3 is great though. You may have a bit of difficulty with the menu and layout at first, but it's pretty intuitive. Definitely better than DS2 and more like DS1.
And you're right about the high fantasy. It feels way off in DS2, but DS3 is a return to form, and possibly even more intense in the Dark Fantasy department than DS1. Don't feel bad if you skip it, it's meh at best. It didn't have Miyazaki and you could easily tell that a lot of things felt missing because of that.
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Heihachi Mishima - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:38:16 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707196
>a lot of people only like 1 3 and bloodborne and that's perfectly understandable.
Yeah, even though I consider Demon's Souls one of my all time favorites I can understand why that one isn't held in higher regard. I think it's the weirdest game out of the ones I've played. It took serious risks with pretty much everything it did. Pretty much everything about Demon's Souls throws conventional design out the window. I mean, a boss actually kills itself in that game. Stuff like that makes that game special, even if the later entries hugely expanded on its foundation in so many ways.

I think on the opposite end of the spectrum, DS2 feels like the most formulaic of these games, to me. I think a lot of that goes back to its high fantasy aesthetic and abundant enemy placement over much else, but there's just something about it. So far it's missing that spark that ignited my love for the other games. Maybe I'll find that spark in it sometime, it's not like I went through the other games on my first attempt either. But so far I'm just more disappointed with it than I anticipated.
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Buck Bumble - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:44:50 EST ID:H04KDzuh No.707212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707211
Which boss kills itself...? Can't seem to recall
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Great Mighty Poo - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 05:03:34 EST ID:XxOi3597 No.707213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707211
I think with demons souls a lot of people just don't seek it out or dont know it's there. I half expect it to get a remaster for the ps4 down the line.
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Dan - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 08:41:35 EST ID:JsvNQRa7 No.707216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707196

I really love DS2. Its a fantastic game on its own.

The atmosphere is different, a bit more friendly and dark fairytale inspired. People have trouble stepping back and seeing its beauty because it isn't DS1. The multiplayer for DS2 is excellent as well.

I keep picking up DS3 every few days and haven't even beat it yet. For some reason I keep getting a feeling that it isn't "living up" to my expectations. I never had that feeling during 2. The problem is 3 feels very much like it wanted to be the best Dark Souls, and tried so hard to capture all the feelings that 1 and 2 had and cram them into your heart.

Something about it isn't believable to me because of that. Like, it feels forced. The strange characters are so fucking forced. In 1 it was natural in their world, in 2 people were a lot more sane and kind of goofy, but in 3 they seem mental without a cause.

I'm enjoying 3, but progress is slow because I have to relax and stop analyzing it to get anywhere. That catacomb area was a top notch level and I was smiling the whole time I navigated those bizarre skeleton corridors.
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Heihachi Mishima - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 09:37:45 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707212
Maiden Astrea
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Dregs - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:45:15 EST ID:114P8Ooy No.707231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707211
The boss that kills itself is a noncombatant, though. The lore says she is protected by the common people of the valley. I think the real challenge of the area is getting to the boss in the first place. People complain a lot about blight town, but bitches don't know 'bout my Valley of Defilement.
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Vergil - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 15:51:45 EST ID:SPRvLUSC No.707232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707231
Valley of Defilement is great, I got used to it after like 4 playthroughs. I only get into trouble when you reach the filthy woman a second time before the dirty colossus. My cheap ass would always spam Astrea with arrows. I fucked up getting Brand on my last and was considering getting it today.
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Heihachi Mishima - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 16:17:02 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707231
>The boss that kills itself is a noncombatant, though.
That's kind of my point though. Demon's Souls did weird shit. I mean, that's an actual boss that doesn't fight you and actually kills itself. It's kind of amazing.
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Dregs - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:16:13 EST ID:114P8Ooy No.707239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707234
Yeah, FromSoft broke the mold before they made Demon's Souls. It's unlike anything before it. I like how Astrea is probably the most evil of all the demons, but most players feel sorry for her. All the other demons you fought before her were overtly greedy and brutal. Instead of going that path, she resurrects the people who have died in the plague caused by the old one. Ironically, she does this by becoming an archdemon for the old one. Instead of curing the plague by defeating the old one, Astrea perpetuates the plague by resurrecting twisted, murderous hollows.These hollows worship her, and bring her the souls and gold of anyone who ventures into the valley. It really brings meaning to the idea that evil flourishes when good people fail to take action. It's also an interesting exploration into the ends justifying the means, since the Demon Slayer had to do some small harm to the people of the valley in order to save the world from the fog. Likewise, Astrea does a small good at the cost of humanity as a whole.
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Heihachi Mishima - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 17:30:14 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707239
>Yeah, FromSoft broke the mold before they made Demon's Souls. It's unlike anything before it.

Exactly. Even if just for the fact that after you save Yurt, he eventually kills really important NPCs behind your back without any explicit warning. Like what the fuck, Demon's Souls. I can't think of another game that's done anything like that. Even with its spiritual successors, you're not going to get the experience DeS offers from anything else, really. In terms of combat and general mechanics, sure, the other games use that foundation wholesale. But just in terms of these bizarre design decisions that just really go against the established grain, DeS is almost in a class of its own.

I like your points on Astrea, the ends justifying the means, and how the actual gameplay and player action reinforce that theme. There are a lot of things like that going on throughout DeS. For all of these games, really. From seems really fond of that. The Frenzy and insight mechanics in Bloodborne and how they tie to the player character losing their mind, just for example. I love that kind of stuff. It goes a long way in making these games feel so layered.
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Kolyat Krios - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 01:29:25 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just barely beat the Dancer on my first try this time with a clutch fireball during an attack animation that definitely would have killed me.
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Kabal - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 06:33:38 EST ID:SPRvLUSC No.707353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696651
I just need pure blade stone in order to get platinum for DeS. It's absolutely maddening. I had less trouble getting all the rings and weapons than this damn rock to my surprise. I think I've farmed 4-2 for at least 3 hours now. It's crushing me
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Ammon Jerro - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:03:21 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707353
Don't give up, persevere. You're too deep in it now.
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Ammon Jerro - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:22:14 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I finally picked up the Dark Souls and Bloodborne DLC. Time to spend 100s of hours playing both.

Also gonna start on my first real DEX build in any of these games. Should be fun.
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Vega - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 13:49:06 EST ID:24OwZjuc No.707370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707353
3 hours? Come back when you've done 30.
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Carmen Sandiego - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 14:02:08 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.707372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707364
Enjoy man, BB's The Old Hunters is probably my favorite Soulsbourne DLC, but of course the rest are all miles ahead of most other game's DLCs (can't speak for DS3's though)
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Gruntilda - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:05:49 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.707379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707364

>DEX build

Big mistake, don't do it


Actually it's not that bad. I have a troll build for R1 spamming and Hornet ringing.

Light weapons let you put heavier armor on. I'd stop at 40 dex, 39 vig, and 40 end, dump the rest into vit and become R1 spamming Parry spamming tank.
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Nakoruru - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:12:12 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.707382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707364
There aren't many weapons that scale well with dex.
Rapiers are fun though.
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Ares Enduwa - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:58:04 EST ID:JNSr3L9X No.707386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707370
I remember doing at least 5+ hours for pure cloud stone on 4-4. I'm like SL 240 with 40 luck and large sword of searching. I think what's jarring is there's literally 1 or 2 skeletons that drop pure blade stone. I just jump off the cliff he's on kill him, rinse and repeat.

>>707362
Thanks for the encouragement
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Ammon Jerro - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:50:58 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.707388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707379

Fuck you, don't discourage people from deviating from the typical Strength build — I'm so tired of faggots running around with Mega-Ultra Greatswords and Giant Dad armor.

I've mained all the Souls games with Dexterity build. Some medium/light armor, a spear and shield combo, I felt good, I had fun.

I seriously hate that everyone ends up with the same build in these games. It's why I don't even bother with PVP, it's just not fun because of stat-fags who Google "strongest weapon in game, how to best build possible".
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Ares Enduwa - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 21:58:38 EST ID:JNSr3L9X No.707389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707388
It was pretty satisfying to play 2 and 3's PVP when they were new. Everyone was kinda going in blind for the most part. Now of course everyone has Havel tank builds. I like doing pyro/intelligence/faith, I generally take my character to 20 across the board and then go from there. I usually rock some light armor or robes and a spear/halberd/straight sword. The whips in 2 were fun, I remember flogging and poisoning invaders whilst casting soul arrows and spells. I think I'm gonna play 3 and 2 again when I platinum DeS
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Cage Midwell - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 02:36:14 EST ID:FtiGKiWs No.707393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707388
He literally said it was okay to go DEX right after. Your butthurt levels are intense. Feel bad for you man. smh.
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Noel Vermillion - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:20:13 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Peppy Hare - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 16:59:02 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707382
So far I've been maining the Uchi, the Silver Knight Straight Sword, and the Black Bow of Pharis. I've also got the Great Scythe in my back pocket for fucking around with. I'm aware that it's technically the best weapon in the game, it just isn't what I've been spending resources on. But I've not felt like I've had a shortage of weapons that scale well with DEX. My first character was a STR build and honestly I feel like it's about the same amount of options.

I really like my character right now though. Fast rolls, Mask of the Child, Grass Crest Shield, Ring of FaP, and switching between a few different light armors. It feels a lot different than the standard sort of knight build I went for the first play through as I've really been focusing on dodging and two handing the Uchi. I played for like 12 hours straight last night and just reached the DLC. I already feel largely over-leveled but it's not because I've been grinding. Just been using what the game has given me. The one and only thing I've grinded for were large Titanite shards on the Blighttown slugs and I only did that for like half an hour. Anyone else feel easily over-leveled when they started a second character?

>>707379
I'm playing the PS3 version and as far as I can tell the servers aren't even up anymore (my PS3 has stayed connected online, I've yet to see a player message or ghost or anything really so idk) so I'm not worried about a PVP build or anything. Just wanted a fun build I've never really tried before to take through PVE. I've always played these games mostly single player anyway. The VIG stat doesn't exist in DS1, but I'm already at 40 DEX, and, like, 26 END and VIT? Something like that.
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Buck Bumble - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:27:43 EST ID:xhYq+Upu No.707408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707406
Great Scythe isn't the best weapon in the game, it just has high damage and a really good moveset. If we're talking PvE the dps isn't even that great. PvP it has a fast running attack with crazy range but I prefer other stuff.
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Noel Vermillion - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:36:31 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I'm about to (finally) pick up Demon's Souls for ps3. I've beaten all the souls games besides this one, I haven't played it at all.

Without saying too much, what should I expect? Is it very similar to DS1?
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Noel Vermillion - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:37:20 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.707410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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oh and pic
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Thunder Hawk - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:01:43 EST ID:XyUPnglh No.707411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707409
Similar, but different. No bonfires or Estus flasks.
HP is recovered with found consumables.
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Baraka - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:06:53 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.707412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707393

#1 you think he's the first person to ever say that shit? it was the straw that broke the camel's back

#2 i feel bad for you that mild passion is "intense butthurt". I can't imagine what it must be feel like to be so apathetic. Domo arigato mr autismo.
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K. K. Slider - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 21:59:12 EST ID:SPRvLUSC No.707415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707409
Probably my favorite one besides bloodborne, it's a little jank but it adds to the charm. The atmosphere and world are bad none. Reminds me of berserk or something similar
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Super Meat Boy - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 13:48:39 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Finished Dark Souls (again) last night. Absolutely loved all the DLC stuff. I kept calling Kalameet "Kalameety Jane" and then flipped out when I realized it dropped a calamity ring. gg From Software.

Had a lot of fun with the DEX build. That fully upgraded Uchi is a mean weapon. Think I've spent all the time in Lordran I'm going to for a while though. I could start another new game right now, I fucking love this game more than most games, but the last thing I want to do is burn myself out on it. Thankfully I've still got DS2 and 3 to play.
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Bob the Killer Goldfish - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 00:51:15 EST ID:09veSMJ3 No.707448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707438
Can someone on XBO drop a summon sign in front of the Crystal Sage in DS3 right now? Cheers to you if you can I'm a little drunk and can't go it alone!

>SUMMON REQUEST

Thanks
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Donkey Kong - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 01:00:15 EST ID:JsvNQRa7 No.707449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707448
Big shout out to Mooler for helping me, whether you were from here or elsewhere!
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Jarl Balgruuf - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 04:14:50 EST ID:2bhmEXnU No.707457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707406
>not worried about a PVP build or anything. Just wanted a fun build I've never really tried before to take through PVE.

Have you ever tried playing through using Aural Decoy as your main offensive spell? You're not allowed to attack anything other than bosses, you have to jump down to the lower burg ASAP to unlock the magician apprentice dude. The spell doesn't really shine until Sen's Fortress, but shit is hilarious.
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Barry Burton - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 10:56:00 EST ID:Qv113OHo No.707470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So, I just started playing Dark Souls 3. I installed it once, tried first boss a dozen times, then uninstalled. I want to experience this game though, so I reinstalled. But holy fuck is the first boss unreasonably difficult. I'm trying to figure out how the game works. It's fairly simple in mechanics. Enemy swings weapon, you dodge roll the fuck away. Super fucking simple mechanics. The difficulty arises in the fact that even the most basic of enemies do a shit fuck of damage. Nevermind the fact that the game just starts off and drops you into the fray. One minute and you're already at the first boss of the game, who mind you is probably one of the most difficult bosses in my gaming career. Like, shit, I remember some bosses in Kingdom Hearts took me a fuck ton of tries to complete. I don't know how many times I sat through that cutscene before you fight Riku. But Dark Souls 3? What the effing fuck? I want this to be a great game, and so far judging by the visual details of the game, it seems like it's going somewhere if I could just get past the first fucking boss. It's not even like a fun challenge. When you're like "oh this is difficult, but I'm enjoying myself!". DS3 is just unfair. There are 3 main things you can do: attack, run, and dodge-roll. So it's mostly a matter of having played the fights a million times and memorizing their attacks and dodging out of the fucking way. Then poke them with your sword and run the fuck away. DS3 is trolling me hard.
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Ultros - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:18:52 EST ID:NkrgFLaM No.707471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707470
windex gundyr is actually pretty punishing, when given a chance. Hes more comboey and leaves him self open less, and in less obvious ways, than the ensuing several bosses

a few things to note

1 - his range of attacks is quite limited, theres about 3 and when you learn them, once you see a tell theres little room for guesswork of whats gonna happen next
2 - this means he can be parried with a buckler shield fairly easily
3- you have a good window to get some hits in after you first *schlick* the sword out of him
4 - maybe he doesnt like fire, or something??

you can really ham him down given an average attack strength. Trouble starts to arise with his gap-closers and lunges, which'll ruin your shit each and every time you try to put some distance so you can chug and heal the damage youve already taken. it begins a cycle.

champion gundyr is a whole other heap of fuckuppery
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Ultros - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 11:23:55 EST ID:NkrgFLaM No.707472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707470
plus you dont necessarily need to roll *away*

dodge rolling provides a window of invincibility - that window being larger at set plateaus depending on your load encumberance (<30%, 30-70%, 70%+) - you can both dodge aggressively, and dodge strafe-wise in order to flank an enemy

say something comes at you with a massive swinging right-hook. dodge left, *into* the hook, once it passes over you, youre basically behind the guy
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Richard Aiken - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 13:19:12 EST ID:220V9K05 No.707476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707470
Well, that's kind of where the enjoyement come from, overcoming the challenge. Dark Souls isn't even among the most difficult series, which is why it got so popular. It's hard enought to pose a challenge but not too much.

>Then poke them with your sword and run the fuck away.

Actually, staying near the boss is sometime the most efficient thing to do. Try to roll throught ennemies attack, the invincibility frames are pretty generous in this game.
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Link - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:41:02 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.707480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707470
The first time I fought Iudex Gundyr I figured it would probably be best to stay further away from him because of how spooky looking he is. It turns out that was wrong. What you need to do is stay close to him and roll-dodge. Hug him and constantly strafe him. When you're moving at an angle to him, it makes him much easier to deal with because it makes his attacks easier to dodge.
Of course this depends on your build but if you're a knight you need to hug him, slash a couple times, roll-dodge, repeat.
One of the key things is don't just go to town when you see an opening, hit 2-3 times max. Don't over-extend yourself.
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Razputin Aquato - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 16:33:02 EST ID:SPRvLUSC No.707485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707471
Funny story my friend and I played DS3 at launch and he had only ever played DeS and got to the tower knight from what he could remember. He asked if he could play the opening section and from what I remember he beat Gundyr and I was butt hurt deep down cause I wanted to do it.
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Kung Lao - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 01:21:27 EST ID:mn6I9yS4 No.707542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
learn your roll timing, and stick to a bosses weapon hand (if they have one, like Gundyr) and you get to win
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Sam & Max - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:35:00 EST ID:1TMiQp5n No.707614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey all, a few months ago I caught a good youtube series of bloodborne lore where the creator got into the religious underpinnings of a lot of the images and monsters and their relationship to Shinto and Catholic stuff - best lore vids I've seen but didn't bookmark and can't remember the name. Videos included source images from religious texts etc. It's not vaati or the other big youtubers.

Sound familiar? Can anybody link me there? Thx in advance, slime scholars.
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Sam & Max - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 19:39:15 EST ID:1TMiQp5n No.707615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>707614
woops! found it. Enjoy y'all! NB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YHraNq--JL4&list=PLzGMMy3ptxzZ8L5SxNSVGSvs8e8IdHVH3
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Sheik - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 21:53:21 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>707615
Thanks for sharing, I'll probably watch these after I get through Bloodborne's DLC.
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Rinoa Heartilly - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 09:06:02 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I finished Bloodborne (again) and its DLC (for the first time).

Bloodborne is one of my favorite games ever made, like top 5 easily, but as far as DLC goes I didn't like The Old Hunters as much as I liked Artorias of the Abyss.

I thought the level design was just better in the base game. Of all the new areas I really loved Fishing Hamlet the most. It felt the most well thought out, even if I hated those two shitwhales and especially Orphan of Kos. Fuck you, Orphan of Kos.

Aside from Kos I loved all of the bosses though. Lady Maria was clearly the best. Ludwig the Holy Blade was also fucking awesome. I even liked Living Failures. It wasn't difficult but I truly appreciate when boss fights in these games at least try something a little bit different. I actually missed the Laurence fight this time around. I don't look up walkthroughs or anything my first time through these games and I just kinda missed it. I at least have something to look forward to next time around. That'll probably be a while though.

What I liked more about Artorias of the Abyss is that it just felt more necessary. That piece of DLC feels like it really completes Dark Souls, like it was always meant to be there. The Old Hunters kind of doesn't. Mainly because of the large jump in difficulty from the base game to here, in that way it felt kind of tacked on because after getting my ass handed to me numerous times and gauging its difficulty from that I knew I'd be saving it for last. But from everything I saw, Bloodborne's story wouldn't really suffer at all if this were missing. It's cool that it's there, but I feel like Bloodborne said and did everything it needed to say and do without this DLC, when Dark Souls is almost an objectively worse experience without fleshing out the story of Artorias, Oolacile, and the Abyss.

Plus I think it kind of breaks Bloodborne's flow. By the time you're ready to take on the DLC the act of leveling and micromanaging starts to feel much less important and more like a chore, when new levels aren't going to help you all that much, and when they're so expensive anyway. When just playing the base game, it knows to end not very long after tedium kicks in. That base experience Bloodborne offers is just so close to perfection. Despite really loving some of these new bosses and areas, the DLC just makes Bloodborne feel kind of bloated. Bloatborne.
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Rinoa Heartilly - Sun, 24 Sep 2017 09:10:00 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.707719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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seriously though fuck Orphan of Kos, I never yelled "EAT SHIT MOTHERFUCKER" as loudly or with as much conviction as when I finally beat this asshole.
nb
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Ibuki - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 03:40:23 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I finally got Demon's Souls.

I guess I was supposed to die to the tutorial boss.

I got through the whole first area with ease then I decide right before what I assume was the boss fog door that I want to go on the side path and fight a dude with red eyes. I circle strafed and chipped away at him for like 10 minutes only for him to hit me with one attack and kill me from full health.
I'll pick this up again later lol.
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Gex - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 03:51:30 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708070
>I guess I was supposed to die to the tutorial boss.
Not really supposed to, you can beat him, but for first time players dying is most likely.

>I want to go on the side path and fight a dude with red eyes. I circle strafed and chipped away at him for like 10 minutes only for him to hit me with one attack and kill me from full health
Parry. Parry parry parry. And backstab.
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Ibuki - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 04:12:51 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708071
>parry

Is it just me or does parrying seem a lot easier than in Dark Souls?
I suck at parrying in Dark Souls and I nailed it every time I tried it (only tried a few times though) but I didn't try on the red eyes dude because I didn't wanna miss the opening. Is there a bigger time period to successfully parry?
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Gex - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 07:00:58 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708072
Not sure honestly, I think they can both be pretty forgiving with their timing as long as you're not spamming it. I will say I like Demon's Souls parry animation better though. But as far as which one is easier I'd really have to look at the frame data to tell, because they both feel pretty even to me. I'm fairly sure backstabs have a slightly more narrow angle in Demon's Souls than they do in Dark Souls though.

Also I just realized which enemy you were talking about and realized I gave you bad advice. For some reason I thought you were talking about some of the knights before Vanguard. Don't bother with the red eye guy in Boletaria 1-1 yet. He's tough and you're not going to find anything worthwhile past him yet. That's the reason he one shot you, you really shouldn't be fucking with that guy at this point. It's possible to kill him, but again, not worth it yet.
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Ibuki - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 07:24:13 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708077
Okay cool thanks. Yeah I kinda figured he was like how they throw a Black Knight in Dark Souls early for shits. And yeah I've definitely noticed that the area for backstab success is smaller. I'm getting used to it.
Though I think I'm gonna start over because I'm not digging the knight class all that much. I should have gone with a class that I could make better use of rolling with. I mean I could just drop a couple pieces of armor but it really bothers me to have an incomplete armor set lol.
I'll just go with the Barbarian I think. Sounds fun.
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Gex - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 07:29:34 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708080
>I mean I could just drop a couple pieces of armor but it really bothers me to have an incomplete armor set lol.
Yeah, I can't stand doin' that shit, it looks awful and if my guy's fashion isn't on point then there's no reason to play.

Barbarian is A+ starting class though. I'd also recommend Hunter. Just take off his retard helmet if you don't want to laugh at him for most of the early game.
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Marc Kai - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 00:50:20 EST ID:XMJkmYNy No.708123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Royalty is the most fun start, imo. Magic is busted to the point of being comical, starting gear is cool, rapiers are dope.
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Abe - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 06:11:20 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.708135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One thing that really bothers me with Demon's Souls is it seems like you can only roll straight ahead, left, right, or backwards. You can only roll in the cardinal directions.
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Navi - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 09:52:36 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708135
That's really only true for when you're locked on, and that's how all these games handle it.
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Abe - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 12:22:57 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.708142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708141
idk, it's different at least than the new dark souls games

when strafing bosses I keep somehow rolling directly into them instead of rolling to the side. the game is old and a little clunky, it's cool. I just need to get used to it. It's difficult going back 4 generations in Dark Souls.
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Dr. Klein - Mon, 02 Oct 2017 20:37:04 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>708142
Demon's Souls is a little clunkier feeling than the rest, but mostly I think that has to do with things like floatier physics and the weird ledge climbing mechanic. Not saying the combat is buttery smooth or anything but as far as rolling goes, I've personally never had any real problems with it. That said if you're comparing it to DS3 or Bloodborne, yeah that's absolutely where you're gonna find the biggest differences.

Not sure about DS3 because I haven't played much of it yet, but Bloodborne often encourages you to roll directly toward enemies to get behind them. Shit like this will, for the most part, not work in Demon's or Dark Souls 1.
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Augustus Cole - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 06:07:01 EST ID:krcwSBBn No.708558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which is scariest between Demon Souls, Dark Souls and Bloodborne?
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Four - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 06:15:23 EST ID:wpL0EzmH No.708560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708558
I didn't find any of them scary but Bloodborne is the "darkest".
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Gabriel Belmont - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 06:38:56 EST ID:0VZH7qRB No.708562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DS1 is pretty spooky but it's not like it's normal scary, it's just intimidating as fuck.
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Big Daddy - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 07:12:45 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708558
In terms of story, Bloodborne. That game can actually be pretty terrifying, and it only gets worse the more and more you think about it. It's Lovecraftian horror done correctly.

In terms of tone, there are some areas in Demon's Souls lookin at you, Latria that are unprecedented. But by and large I think Bloodborne manages to be a scarier experience at times than games that actually label themselves as horror games.
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Waluigi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:32:00 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.708568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708562
Nah, that's normal scary. Bad video games ("horror" games) just don't understand humans very well
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Sonia Belmont - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:52:54 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.708569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>708558
Well they all have jump scares to some extent, but those are going to be undermined by the fact you learn where the ambushes are and end up jumping them.

But I'd go with Bloodborne, ultimately dragons and knights aren't as scary as witches and werewolves.
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Orchid - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 16:59:55 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.708580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708564

Agreement here,

No videogame story has really captivated my interest quite like Bloodborne. If you spend time looking at the lore, or completing NPC storylines, the rabbit hole always gets deeper.

It's just a fascinating thought experiment to me: gods that exist as beings so alien we cannot understand their existence, intentions, or the limits to their power. 4th dimensional hyperpowerful beings makes more sense to me than the traditional creator being that's currently widely accepted. I would expect that if one of these 4th dimensional beings were to make an appearance, they would be celebrated as creators.
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Octoberfest - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 00:13:55 EST ID:Dxqqduyz No.708642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is the BB dlc/expansion worth getting?
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Penelo - Sun, 15 Oct 2017 11:29:47 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708642
Overall yes, it's worth the money if that's what you're asking.

Personally I didn't think it was perfect though, as far as Souls DLC goes this one wasn't one of my favorites. See
>>707718
if you'd like the rest of my thoughts on it and why I wasn't blown away with it.

Even with my complaints though I'd still recommend it. More Bloodborne isn't a bad thing, and even if you don't like the level design or bosses (which you're sure to like some of them at the very least) then the new armor sets and weapons are probably worth it. But keep in mind that The Old Hunters is harder than the base game and you probably won't unlock any of that until very late game.
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Alyssa Hamilton - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 13:23:20 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.709118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So Code Vein looks like it could be pretty good:
https://youtu.be/khia7i_48sw
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Gannondorf - Wed, 25 Oct 2017 21:14:28 EST ID:L2YdR2iI No.709130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>708659

The story is pretty sweet tho. How it all ties together from a single mysterious cosmic entity.

And the final boss is a fucking horrible fight. Prepare to ragequit.
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Yoshimitsu - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 05:34:41 EST ID:NkrgFLaM No.709144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709118
looks too comboey. makes me think of dynasty warriors or some shit. i dont wanna just endlessly spam spammy button spam combos

i want attacks to matter
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Cain Highwind - Thu, 26 Oct 2017 11:34:10 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.709154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709144
Yeah. It kinda looks like they just took the original formula, then changed a few things making it worse with every change.
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Jack Carver - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 04:19:10 EST ID:FjdktzXi No.709265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So didn't want to start a new thread, I finally started playing Dark Souls 3 and was planning to go quality build and stick with the long sword. My question is if I should stick with quality and infuse to make refined long sword, or if I should just stack dex and do sharp long sword instead? I mostly stick with sword + shield style and only do two handed for bosses where shield is pointless. Thanks.
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1111 - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 06:11:44 EST ID:OWn/1lMA No.709464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709265
Going archery or full-magic not good enough for you?
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Simon Belmont - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 15:09:31 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.709487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709265
Early on it might behoove you to go with raw or sharp (or even fire) as it is later on when you've got lots of points to spend that quality builds really start to pay off.
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Sonic the Hedgehog - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 23:32:41 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.709665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just started playing Dark Souls 2 SOTFS on PC, and holy shit I had no clue what I was missing playing on PS3. The graphics are just amazing in comparison and really the whole game is just better. I was playing the Black Armor Edition (which is fucking stupid because all they added were a few shitty weapons and shields that you start with). They've made certain parts more difficult and I've only gotten to Forest of the Fallen Giants and I can already tell that they've improved the enemy ai.
I'm kinda blown away and I'm really looking forward to going through this again but in a much improved version, and looking forward to the DLC areas that I've heard are what make the game good. Dark Souls 2 is a good game imo, but just the vanilla game that I had on PS3 is definitely lacking when compared to the other Souls games. Let's see how this version stacks up.
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Alex Kidd - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:02:52 EST ID:/T0VCs5S No.709670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696651

I've been playing Bloodborne, first time.. 3rd character. Sometimes its just easier to make a new one after learning what you have throughout the game. Currently just doing a pure skill build instead of my STR build. After beating Rom & learning how to fight Ludwig in the DLC,while I can get him to his second form I feel I could do better with a skill build. Also while Master Logarius is a straight up cunt to fight I also found him the most entertaining. Can't wait to fuck him up with better viscerals this time around and play with the Reiterpallasch.
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Joe Higashi - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:17:27 EST ID:FjdktzXi No.709675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709487

Hey it's me again, thanks for advice. I was using dark sword + black knight shield for a while, but now use refined Lothric great sword and am having a blast, and winning all my pvp matches. I'm already on ng++ and can't stop playing. Totally addicted.
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Sarah Morrison - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 06:40:11 EST ID:cYqr3fKg No.709734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Half way through my second play through of Bloodborne, NG, skill build maining the threaded cane.

This game might be my favourite game, full stop. The lore, art design, combat, weapons, mechanics, everything. Incredible.
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Richard Aiken - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:57:18 EST ID:mMOdHvBA No.709770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>709734
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMbKZPBruU
play it while listening to this (and smoking, of course)
or at the very least while running through chalice dungeons. It became the soundtrack to my BB playthroughs and I regret nothing
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Ermac - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 21:31:06 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.709772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>709770
Holy shit, as soon as you said play it while listening to this, I expected some stoner/doom. But that fuckin album, fuck yeah!
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Captain Onishima - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:55:06 EST ID:KCv/dNKA No.709776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>709770
My brother gave me that cd, immediately gave it back to him the next day. They're not bad its just not for me. Emperor went good with bloodborne though
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:37:54 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DARK SOULS 1 REMASTER ON SWITCH, PS4, XBONE

Announcing today
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Zoe Castillo - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 09:48:47 EST ID:m7HcOeuR No.712949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712948
niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice

I'd figured that for a dead rumor
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:14:57 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trailer: https://youtu.be/Dl4BiWdW5Ek
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Kasumi Koto - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 10:57:46 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.712952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712948
I can't fucking wait to be fucking people up in the Forest Covenant PVP with updated graphics. It's gonna be fucking dooooope.
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Isaac - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:11:50 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.712953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>712948
Dang I was hoping for a DeS remaster for PS4 since I never played it. This is fine too tho.

I wonder if they'll be restoring cut content? I'd kill for a proper Lost Izalith.
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:22:08 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712953

I hope they don't add any new content to the game world. Lost Izalith is what it what it is. Changing it for the remaster is like George Lucas reediting the original trilogy.
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Raziel - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 11:49:58 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.712957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712954

Didn't even Miyazaki admit it was unfinished? Don't really see why they shouldn't polish it up. If you're such a purist you still got the original to play.
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:12:00 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712957

I don't consider adding new enemies types to be a "polish". What they're doing now is a polish... Improved graphics, better fps, better servers, etc. Adding entirely new enemies goes beyond polishing, it's remolding the piece, and it's not going to happen b/c FromSoftware aren't in charge of this. Ports and remasters are almost always handed off to smaller studios, whose job it is just to bring the game up to par.

I did hear they're going to implement some new things... Like a password matchmaking system so it's easier to PVP à la Dark Souls 2 god ring.

And it's not just about me... Some people are going to be experiencing DS1 for the first time b/c of this remaster and their experience should be genuine to everyone who came before. I don't want some nerd saying he beat Dark Souls with a gimped Bed of Chaos.
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Isaac - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:30:13 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.712962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712959
>saying he beat Dark Souls with a gimped Bed of Chaos.
I understand your point but that has to be the worst boss to use as an example, BoC was piss easy lol
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 12:43:06 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712962

I could've listed any boss and someone would've replied saying "______ is piss easy", lol. So be the Dark Souls community....
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Isaac - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 13:49:15 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.712966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712963
Lemme clarify, it's a bad example because it barely feels like a boss fight to me, more like a really minute "puzzle" I guess where you basically just have to remember which parts of the arena fall out from under you. I'm not sure how you'd go about gimping it without making it incredibly simple.
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Kasumi Koto - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:08:21 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.712968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712963
You've obviously never played Bed of Chaos. It's a fucking stupid boss fight and totally out of place among all other Souls bosses.
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Kasumi Koto - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:11:25 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.712969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712953
If you have a ps3, it's worth picking up Demon's Souls. It's dated, but it's not that much more dated than Dark Souls. It's not that bad.

But I imagine this might be on Sony and From's to-do list to remaster it. I mean it would be great if Sony could say they are the "Souls Console" and that you can have every souls game on ps4. That would certainly be a selling point for the many souls fans. But From is probably buys with "shadows die twice" whatever that is, probably just a tagline for a new IP, hopefully in the same vein as Bloodborne, being very like Souls but with an awesome new direction.
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:35:51 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712968

Yes, I've obviously never played Bed of Chaos, despite my main character being on NG+5...

Lemme break this down for the retards: Lost Izalith is a notoriously bad/cheap part of the game. In light of this remaster, people are saying "Fix Lost Izalith!" which would include... BED OF CHAOS! The main boss in that area. You wanna know why I brought up BoC? Because she is the final boss of Lost Izalith, an area people want reworked. I wasn't throwing out BoC because she's super difficult, I name-dropped her because she's fucking relevant to what people are asking for, damned morons.

As for BoC being hard, it's well-known to be a cheap boss that will insta-kill you and force you to spend several minutes obnoxiously running all the way back to it. It's a terrible experience, but it's also intrinsic to the Dark Souls experience... Unexpected pitfalls, insta-death with one small swoop of the hand, an obnoxious run past dozens of animals just to get another chance... That's Dark Souls, love it or hate it. And it's part of the experience.

How would they gimp it? Idk and IDC because it's not going to happen. But all the cry-babies who want to significantly alter the shape of a game they've spent 7 years calling a masterpiece is funny to me.
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Selphie Tilmitt - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 14:54:11 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.712971 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712970
well I never said fix it and I'm not for changing anything except maybe fixing multiplayer stuff. apparently I didn't read the context.
But congrats on going to NG+5. I'm so impressed.
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Raziel - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:15:22 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.712972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712970

I wasn't even talking about new enemies or reworked bosses. I was talking about the rushed gameworld parts of DS1.

Everyone knows Lost Izalith and even Demon Ruins are kinda shit. It's glaring just how much the drop in quality is in both level-design and atmosphere when you go from Blight-town to that place. It's simply unfinished as it stands. And as for bosses, the two worst ones are found down there as well i.e. BoC and Ceaseless Discharge.

DS isn't some holy relic, and this is a chance for FromSoft to complete what they started back in the day.
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Kasumi Koto - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 15:22:03 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.712973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712972
>Dark Souls isn't some holy relic

The lore kinda is. As long as they don't fuck with the lore, they might be okay.
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Baraka - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 16:53:07 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.712976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712972

I don't know how you fix the rushed game world without new enemies or reworked bosses. Tell me how?

Lost Izalith as it stands is good from an environmental perspective. The problem with it is that they copy+pasted the enemies. Right before BoC, they spammed dragon butts nonsensically... So, what's the solution? Get rid of em? Replace them? I don't agree with that. It'd be different if they patched in new stuff a few months after release. But it's been 6 years...

I guess the problem is that this is a remaster. If they pulled a Scholar of the First Sin, and drew a line, then I probably wouldn't care. But this is a remaster... It's about taking the original game and polishing it's performance and graphics, not cutting out pieces and adding new parts.

Also, what's wrong with Ceaseless Discharge? He's a pushover once you know how to beat him, but aren't all the bosses? The first time I fought him, he killed me and I respect him as a boss for that reason, just as I do BoC (but moreso).

If any boss in Lost Izalith needs another look, it's fucking centipede demon... Can't help but feel like you were supposed to get the charred orange ring BEFORE the fight with him. Or maybe even during.
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Player Two - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 02:36:16 EST ID:b3zYB9tz No.712998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy shit, Dark Souls fans are worse then Zelda fans at this point.
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Isaac - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 03:54:02 EST ID:q3PN733A No.713001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712998
Just about any fan of major games like these are bad. I just play the game enjoy them or discuss them on the internet. Maybe with friends who play the ones I've have, like BoTw or Dark Souls. All we ever say is "hey did you beat that part, nah super hard fuck that jazz." And or our favorite part but never argue of stupid shit. People on internet are a bunch of Gaylord's.
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Ashley Graham - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 09:36:46 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713001

You sound boring ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

"Hey, did you beat this part" LOL.
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Cody - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 10:54:48 EST ID:bbC6rC0j No.713014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Does Armored Core count as soulsborne? Soulsborne got their menu layouts from armored core after all.
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Isaac - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:23:44 EST ID:q3PN733A No.713019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713010
Yup, because arguing with strangers is perfectly healthy. Get the fuck outta here you spergh lord.
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Ashley Graham - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:46:58 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713019

Uh, it is healthy you dumbfuck. It's good for your brain, gets the gears moving, it's a form of problem solving, refuting what has been said and formulating a response.

And it's socially healthy too... I'd rather argue with strangers than argue with friends. If I argued with friends, we'd come to resent each other, and it would deteriorate our friendship until it's no more. With strangers, I can argue and I don't really give a fuck if you like me at the end of the day, I don't have to worry about you not showing up to my birthday party.

You get the fuck out of here. I come to places like this to get away from the shallow, casual thinking. If your thoughts and feelings conveniently fit inside the 140 character limit on Twitter, you're a cancer to discussion.
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Name - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:55:05 EST ID:q3PN733A No.713021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713020
Ok, my man. Whatever you say. Adults are talking now so you go ahead and go back to 4chimps.
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AC !QqL8nX9URE - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 13:58:38 EST ID:tGUsrabY No.713022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713020
I was gonna come to your birthday but now I am having second thoughts...
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Ashley Graham - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:06:13 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713021

>hurrdurrr ur not an adult

And anyone who argues knows that when people say this kind of shit, it's because they've lost and are intimidated, lol.

Adults are talking? You've only made 3 posts ITT, all of them bitching about people talking about Dark Souls. Adults *were* talking until you spoke up to whine.
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Isaac - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:14:21 EST ID:q3PN733A No.713025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713023
Whine about what? How the user fan bae for most tripple a get are toxic. Who is that whining? Is it not true. Love BoTW and Dark Souls. I just done see the point arguing about a remaster release. I also like Rick and Morty and their families base got worse when season 3 was released. There is a guy at work who won't shut the fuck about it and keeps spewtting Rick puns all the fucking time, that I rather not interact with people like that, and same goes for the gaming community.
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Isaac - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 14:19:28 EST ID:q3PN733A No.713027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713025
God damn auto correct. Nb.

Point is, interacting with the fan base doe the most part is toxic and what that guy said before isn't a lie. What wrong with talking about games with like minded people. Not everyone has to argue why Link looks like think or or why Mario has nipples. That kind of shit doesn't interest me. I only care about gameplay or the mechanics of the game. Also, don't assume just because I have only 3 post I am not actively talking. My IP changes at least twice a week.
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Cid - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 16:57:58 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>712998
It's just one person being toxic about really inane shit.
Don't blame the game because someone has some pent up anger.
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Chun-Li - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 21:47:48 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713025

>Doesn't want to interact with gaming community
>Is posting in a gaming community

You're nonsensical. If you don't want to discuss, fuck off! If you don't like a particular topic, hide the thread! If you don't like a particular user, ignore them!

Stop trying to dictate conversation. People can and will talk about whatever they'd like. Trying to frame the conversation I was having next to something as trivial as Mario's nipples is stupid as fuck, too. What Lost Izalith was meant to be and what it should be going forward is an interesting discussion, IMO. If you don't think it is, I don't care. All that tells me is that I'm more passionate and interested in the game than you are. Chances are you play games that I don't give two fucks about, but you don't see me shitposting in the Mario Odyssey thread.
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King Dedede - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 03:15:41 EST ID:o6tl/Di0 No.713049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713039
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Four - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:06:27 EST ID:dq1dp6Ws No.713409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSJkxLdIlyE

Maybe i was wrong about Dark Souls. At least the first one, i played the second and third recently and i really don't think much of them. I don't know, i actually didn't touch the first Dark Souls after i finished it, i just didn't care for it much because i was so used to playing Demon Souls and the internet multiplayer functions were terrible and not working correctly. I mean, I feel the same way about Demon Souls the way this guy feels about DS. My issue was if i remember correctly, is when Dark Souls came out it was more of the same but not to the extent where i wanted it to be, but it was also different but not so different that i would feel like it gave me something new. I just couldn't get into it that much because it just kinda pissed me off, not because it was hard but because it was not Demon Souls 2. I was just not really sure why i hated it, i thought maybe because it was kinda hard so i kept on going until i finished it and then i was just done with the game and left it on the side.

It has been a very long time since i played the first Dark Souls and you know what, i am somewhat excited for the remaster. Its a good opportunity to revisit the game and finally for me to come to conclusion whither the Dark Souls were a good sequel to Demon Souls or just a cheap cash grab. I'm still not going to preorder it, i want to play it on the PC and i wana make sure the multiplayer actually works before i pick it up.
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Norton Mapes - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:19:47 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just popped Dark Souls in for the first time. I made it out of the uh, Asylum of the Undead or whatever, and sweet jesus this game's notorious reputation is well-earned. I've died over 30 times and think I might need to reroll a more simple melee class. Cleric seems hard as fuck for a beginner at low level.
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Professor Oak - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 21:32:33 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713469
Cleric can be pretty legit early on, just play until you reach that fucking drake on the bridge after the Taurus demon boss, right passed that fucker is a bonfire and nearby is the warriors of sunlight shrine. If you join that covenant you get a boss ass lightning spell that can carry you through half the game
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Vault Boy - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 22:32:46 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713469
Cleric is pretty weak.
I'd recommend going pyromancer or bandit for the first playthrough.
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Banjo - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 01:15:44 EST ID:bbC6rC0j No.713474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713472
What this guy said, Roll bandit and ditch the bandit axe for the hand axe as soon as you can buy it from the merchant.
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Norton Mapes - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 17:23:40 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713470
>>713472
>>713474

i deleted the cleric and rolled warrior. simple sword-n-board. though i found an axe thats pretty great. i started to do much better once i realized i wasnt supposed to fight the skeletons at the graveyard. right now im trying to get good at parry so i can beat these black knights, especially the big fucker, he scares me
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Pigma Dengar - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 20:03:29 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713491

well im at the ridiculous fuckin bell gargoyle, dont have the patience to beat him today, but at least im starting to get some levels under my belt. think i had a glitch because the giant boar didnt drop a helm but i cant tell you how fucking relieved i was to get that elevator back to a kindled flame. i am starting to see why this game has so much enduring love. one question though, is there any way to improve rolling? when i was a cleric i rolled fast as fuck like a ninja but my warrior just flops around like he's obese and out of breath. is it due to dexterity or just the gear you are wearing? nb
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Stryker - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:11:35 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.713497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713495
There's 4 thresholds for which roll animation you use, 0-25, 25-50, 50-100, and 100%+ of max carry weight.
Havel's Ring and Ring of Protection increase max equip load by 50% and 20%.

It's been awhile but I recall cleric being good for new players, the mace is great for the first like third or so since it scales with strength and does striking damage, and the ability to run away and heal (or cast lightning spear) makes the game a lot more forgiving.
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Yuna - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 21:16:37 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713495
Something not fully explained in the game is the reverse hallowing system. If you turn human at say the blacksmith location near that elevator back to firelink you can then run to the bell gargoyles and summon real players, Solaire if you were nice to him earlier and another NPC you may have saved nearby Having help in some of the boss fights is the way to go, and some of them only get harder with help due to the hp scaling higher.

Take off your armor, and dont worry about it much for now, just hold that fucking shield up nonstop and dodge roll from danger.
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GLaDOS - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 00:04:41 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713495
tips for the gargoyles
aim to take down one of them quickly. it's much easier if you get the first one out of the way
use the differences in elevation of the rooftop to your advantage. you can go down the rooftop a little bit in elevation to easily dodge tail swipes and other attacks
if you hit a gargoyle's tail a few times you can knock it off and get a badass weeapon made from his tail
you can run to the opposite side of the rooftop from where you started and they won't be able to hit you with the lightning attack from behind the wall
there is a bonfire near the church that the gargoyles are on top of. I missed it the first time and didn't realize that once you go out the side of the church, there is a building down a narrow walkway where there is a bonfire and a blacksmith where you can upgrade weapons
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Minsc - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 01:57:07 EST ID:tv+GcDRs No.713512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713495
I thought the bell gargoyle was pretty easy, but I was a pyromancer
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Pigma Dengar - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 17:59:17 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah i finally figured out you could summon if you were human. though i rolled off the roof (i was filled with so much rage all i could do was sit motionless with a blank face). and had to farm for a long time to get another humanity lol. with the 2 NPC's helping i just mostly sat back and let them do everything lol. tried to get the tail weapon but didn't get it, but at least i rang the bell. im using a +1 halberd as a warrior for now, any feedback on that weapon choice? i love the long reach it has and the damage is high too. maybe ill switch to the zweihander once i get my str up a little more. took me FOREVER to fucking realize i was supposed to go to lower undead burg, only found that by chance when i tried to talk to solaire again then remembered the locked door. still havent gotten past that cunt dragon on the bridge, ill worry about that when im done with undead burg. i was pretty shocked by the assassins who ganked my ass, but i am ready for them next time.

thanks for the info on rolling, that makes a lot of sense and i will start investing in endurance. im level 20 going to undead burg with a +1 weapon, am i too weak or do you guys think im at about the right place?
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Paul Phoenix - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 18:08:51 EST ID:0z+RVgZ0 No.713538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713497
Anyone got videos of PvP masters doing duels with 100% weight and winning? That shit always looks so good.
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Cole Phelps - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 22:49:08 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713536
You can make it through the berg just fine but towards the end you will want to have a pretty strong weapon ready. No spoilers this time.
That Halberd is pretty good, nice long reach. The Zwiehander is also pretty good for its reach and its stability on attacks (harder to get knocked out of animations)
Personally my favorite weapon my first run was the winged spear from the graveyard early in the game, since you can attack with a shield raised.
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Lakitu - Thu, 25 Jan 2018 23:32:36 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713555

HOLY FUCK i didnt FUCKING KNOW THAT!!! i picked that weapon up too but never even tested it, i need to go test it now, maybe i shoulda picked that over the halberd
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Cole Phelps - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 02:24:36 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713559
Yeah its a game changer for sure but dont let it become a crutch, without a lot of armor on you wont have high poise, so many things will still be unblockable. Still good to use to feel out a new area.
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Dante - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 02:42:21 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713559
The halberd is nice, it's got good reach so you can stay out of harm's way for the most part. And unlike a spear it has a little more of a diverse move set. But you will get punished if you mess up.

Good work grabbing the zweihander. That's the first thing that a lot of people do. It's a really fun weapon. It has a 2h strong attack that is OP.
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Nightwolf - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 03:10:33 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.713569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713559
Try out the Gargoyle Halberd if you can get it (random drop from the boss fight). It's about as strong as the regular halberd but it gives a slight resistance buff + the moveset is different (overhead chops instead of pokes)
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Lakitu - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 09:10:29 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713567
>>713568
>>713569

so if i already used my tit chunk on the halberd do you guys think i should stick to it for a while and get it upgraded more? or save my next chunk for a more rare/special weapon?
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Nightwolf - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 09:29:26 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.713581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713580
Really depends on whether you feel good about using it or not.

You can always farm chunks from the wraiths in the lower part of New Londo. If you're not there yet you might as well stick with the Halberd a bit longer until you find something more to your liking.
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Ms. Pac-Man - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 10:26:55 EST ID:xT/tDpFO No.713583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>696651
So, does anyone want to baselessly speculate about Shadows Die Twice?
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Alex Mercer - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 11:31:32 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.713585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxu--N3hm-U
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Little Mac - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 12:57:30 EST ID:5gc9R2I5 No.713590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713583
You really can't or can all day... which is why it's sort of brilliant. TWICE could imply Demons 2 or BB2. It could be a sequel to From's old Japanese ghost game. Some people speculate it could be a new Tenchu. The only thing I know it's not, is probably Armored Core. They know what they're doing with getting people hyped.

Educated guess: Just like how Dark Souls is "Not Demon Souls", I think this new game is going to be "Not Bloodborne" for multiplatform BUT they will be more lenient about the games being in the same universe. It looks like it's setting up the land Yamamura came from. We see blood, some sort of Asian script, the tools in the background can literally be found in the hunters dream (they are common tools though). The torture device thing/ trick weapon? no idea. Some people speculate it's a sort of steam punk/ Bloodorne equivalent to cybernetic augmentation. It's definitely a leg bone and the beast infection apparently ran up one of the legs.

Like I say, they are intentionally fucking with people.
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Dante - Fri, 26 Jan 2018 12:58:25 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713583
Hard to say, the japanese script definitely leads one to think it could be one of their older games getting revived like tenchu but it really could be anything.
I'd like to see something of a cross between Nioh and Bloodborne if that is even possible.
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Roll - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 12:51:42 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713580
>>713581

i killed that whore capra demon to get no loot, just a key. went to the depths and by now i have learned this game shows you zero mercy, ever. so i anticipated a couple dudes sneakin around a corner or doorway up until now, but usually picking up an item is at least a moment where you can relax... or so i wrongly presumed. went to pick up an item in knee deep water in the depths and even had a thought like "hmm this wouldnt be a trap would it? nah its just picking up an item" when a like-like from zelda dropped on me and 1 hitted me dont have the patience to go back now, but god damn there is no moment of mercy or rest in this game.
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Eddy Gordo - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 12:57:43 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713637
You are at a point seemingly no return. Poke around a bit more outside of the depths and see if there's any goodies you've missed. If you took the master Key as an item you can even skip the depths, which is the shit because the Depths fucing suck all the dicks. If not just stay away from everything you see down there. I wont spoil it but there is some bullshit waiting for you. Let the dead bodies be your warning
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Eddy Gordo - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 13:18:49 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713638
If the bad thing I hinted at happens to you, be sure to return to the First belltower and look for something to help you
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Spinal - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:11:44 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.713644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713590

>Like I say, they are intentionally fucking with people.

Yeah, but the thing is if this is an entirely different game or a reboot of From's older IPs, they would probably not hype and tease it in this way. The Soulsborne series has a huge following, those fans will analyze everything and anything including what amounts to pixel hunts or etymological investigation. From are completely aware of this, and dangling a mystery IP in front of them only for it to be something else could set the fans off.

Also, imagine a Soulsborne game inspired by the fucked up Japanese folklore dude. It would be fucking awesome.
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Ness - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 14:46:13 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.713645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713644
Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Nioh soulsborne with Japanese folklore?
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Roll - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 16:09:42 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713638
>>713639

well after a couple failed attempts at the magic butterfly i decided to go back to the depths. when i fell into a evil trap of curse cloud frogs unfortunately i decided to rest at the nearby bonfire so now after getting hit with 2 curses i am at 25% of my HP bar and died trying to fight back to firelink. i need to stock up on those anti curse stones from the moss lady, but do curses always 1 hit kill? i seemed to instadie whenever my curse bar filled. also what thing near the belltower are you referring to?
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Isaac Clarke - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:52:04 EST ID:5gc9R2I5 No.713649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713644
Oh, I very much believe it's the next "Soulsborne" game. I just think they knew people would imagine it could be multiple things when they announced it. I mentioned way earlier in this thread they have 3 projects in the works and one is a Soulstype game, another is Armored Core and the third project is something weird (I expect something more lighthearted when Miyazaki says "weird"). It has to be the Soulsborne game.

I think you're going to get your wish, my true pipe dream however is for this game to be connected to the world of Bloodborne. I think a Japanese spin on Lovecraft (hur dur that's what BB already is, I know) would work great IMO. That and how the game could potentially look in that setting. Horned beats could have a more Oni look to them than the wendigo's and traditional demon horns for the first game. Get more Eastern themed trick weapons... Like I say, still a pipe dream.

>>713645
Yes and no. From a gameplay perspective/ at face value yes but if you wanna get real nerdy with it, nah. Nioh, is really traditional. Souls always sort of morphs already established fiction and creates it's own identity Bloodborne especially. If FROM designed Nioh the enemy design would likely have been much more inventive, same goes for the level design. I'm not really knocking Nioh, it's just much more straight forward.
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Spinal - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:47:42 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.713652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713645

Yeah but as >>713649 said Nioh don't go that extra mile. It's awesome gameplay wise, but everything that happens and all enemies are very standard fantasy tropes as imagined from Japanese myth.

Also Nioh has no critical lore to piece together from item inscriptions, and no twist to surprise you.

My point is that Japanese folklore is dark as hell, and with an inventive mind to build upon that shit you can do wonders. But Nioh doesn't dare to go there.
Instead it runs that a simple "What if folklore is real?????" thing and drop William Adams as the player and action hero into it.
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Eddy Gordo - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:59:43 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713648
I may be wrong but the npc near the bell tower sells the curse removing stones cheaper, was hoping you'd grab some before you got down in deep and dirty and cursed stuck at a bonfire with no health lol Any time you see that little meter filling up with anything but toxin/posion fuck right off out of there. If its a red icon it means bleeding, and filling the meter up triggers a fuck ton of instant hp loss, and curses are insta turned to stone, like the bodies you see all over the lower depths. ranged attacks or avoidance works best with those basilisks.
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Nemesis - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:04:48 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.713654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713648
You die as soon as the curse bar is full, so it's advisable to wear armor with high curse resistance if you're fighting curse enemies.
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Knuckles the Echidna - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 19:06:01 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.713655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713653

Well the basilisks aren't that bad. Just stay away from their front side, rolling will be your savior.
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Strider Hiryu - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 21:38:12 EST ID:PmD0h/dr No.713656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713655
the first time I played, I fell through that hole that lands you smack in the middle of those passages that are full of them. I was cursed before I could even gather my bearings. I was stuck at that shrine for a long time, I eventually just had to fucking run all the way back to firelink and simply avoid fighting anything.
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Capt. Olimar - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 22:32:52 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713656

yeah i did this. and i pussied out and looked up how to get the stones from the crow this time i avoided those basilisk whores and made it to the teeth dragon but he fucked me up. next time gonna stock up on gold resin and i think i can take him. im really hoping i get depressed onion man as a summonable guy soon
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Lord Grazel - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 23:26:25 EST ID:8vcVU0nM No.713665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713648
Just wait until you fight Seath.
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Kid Ying - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 05:18:00 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ToeJam & Earl - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 14:58:48 EST ID:HaSwQNhx No.713691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713687
This would make more sense if it wasn't written in broken Engrish.
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Nemesis - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:33:05 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.713692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713691
There's visual aids when it's read in-game.

Which part doesn't make sense to you?
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Nathan Spencer - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 16:51:50 EST ID:WKO8HbTp No.713693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713692
It's like it was written half in past tense and half in present tense which makes it sound like it came out of a cave man's mouth.

>the flame came brought disparity
>gravelord nito unleash his miasma of death
>lord gwyn wage war against the dragons
>the age of fire began with lord gwyn become ruler of the land

and that's only the first 3 blurbs
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Vega - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:25:02 EST ID:Zj68SaXX No.713694 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713692
you're doing fine.

thanks for letting me in on this.
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Kid Ying - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:40:53 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.713695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713693

English isn't his first language. It really isn't a big deal... If you need clarity and perfect writing, then Dark Souls lore isn't for you to begin with.
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Mayor MacCready - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 03:02:10 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.713700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713695
>It really isn't a big deal

It really is if the creator wants it to be taken seriously, it has no bearing on understanding the complexity of the lore.
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Kazuma Kiryu - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 06:40:26 EST ID:2lRavIHI No.713707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713700
>It really is if the creator wants people like me to take him seriously
>ftfy
Most people don't give a shit over didn't even notice it
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Donkey Kong - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 09:27:30 EST ID:WKO8HbTp No.713712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713707
>Most people don't give a shit over didn't even notice it

no wonder it doesn't bother you, you guys seem to be on the same wavelength
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Jack Rex - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 11:49:52 EST ID:Zj68SaXX No.713714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713700

Most english speakers are multilingual so if they read english and the grammar is a little wonky, it's usually not a big deal because they can understand what's being said anyway because they have a grander scope of what can and cannot be expressed.
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Sophitia Alexandra - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:09:48 EST ID:bmUn4xsu No.713722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713714
Good point. Maybe native speakers need to stop caring as much and realize that the price of being able to use your language around the world is that it's not going to be perfect.

It's amazing we can communicate at all.
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Aribeth - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:46:33 EST ID:szJppJ6w No.713749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got to about 7 hours into DS3 (second playthrough), just beat curse rotted fuck, then my ps4 overheated and because I didn't react quick enough crashed and corrupted all of my DS3 saves.

So I did what any true chosen undead would do - I restarted and managed to get up to where I was before plus the 20K tower key for firelink plus just made it to the road of sacrifices. All in about 5 1/2 hours near straight. Got my sunlight chestpiece from the bird so I'm starting my strength/faith Solaire run off right. Excited to play more.

Also I've gotta admit that this is one of the only game series that makes me want to play more because of how good the lore is. Spent about 2 hours on reddidit yesterday morning reading about Aldrich and Sullyvhan etc, some super cool shit. Bloodborne gets me even worse for that, I fucking love the big lore files on that.

Still haven't played DS3 or BB dlc, hype as all fuck to get to them.
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Four - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 13:57:05 EST ID:FyYXHHiA No.713750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713749
>ps4 overheated

What? When was the last time you cleaned?
Do you have alot of dust or cat hair in your house to cause this issue?

Its just too bad most people dont really understand the lore too well. Like how most people think linking the fire is the good ending when it's anything but.
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Marcus Fenix - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 15:02:10 EST ID:I+d0TStq No.713751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713750
"My ps4 overheats"

Pic related... Get a Torx screwdriver and open it up, especially if you have never done it or if you live with shitty pets/smokers
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Four - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 16:42:43 EST ID:TltZKR9+ No.713756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713751
You dont really need to open it. Just get yourself an electric Duster and it will blow all that stuff right out.
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Nakoruru - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 17:34:59 EST ID:FnQhUnkm No.713758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713756
Trust, if anyone's had it for more than a year and the warranty is expired there's no reason not to open it.

I had to flim a q-tip in the horrid GPU there to scrape off the atrocious level of dust, that my electronic crazy strong duster would have never been able to move.
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Naomi Hunter - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:52:41 EST ID:HaSwQNhx No.713760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713751
Blowing works fine for routine maintenance, but if there's years of gunk caked on, you should wipe it down first instead of blowing that gunk into other components.
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Naomi Hunter - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 21:53:26 EST ID:HaSwQNhx No.713761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713760
Meant to reply to >>713756
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Uriel Septim - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:07:33 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.713788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Sniper Wolf - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:09:58 EST ID:5gc9R2I5 No.713789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713788
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Caius Cosades - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 17:56:12 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.713792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713789
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Rayman - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:15:24 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713659

son of a bitch. i beat the moonlight butterfly, i was focusing on him because i heard he drops a good weapon and im struggling badly with the gaping dragon. im using gold resin and i think i will eventually get him but i was really hoping to get a better weapon. lo and behold he drops his soul, which it says "can be used to make a unique weapon, or gain a HUGE amount of souls in my post-victory drunkenness i used it right away, thinking there would be a select menu of WHICH use i wanted to choose. nope, consumed, +1200 meager souls. i guess i should have gone to the blacksmith, fucking whoops. at least i found the depths ladder shortcut im just gonna have to farm a humanity and get solaire to save my chump ass. is it normal to go through this game hollow like... 95% of the time? i have only very very rarely had any humanity up until now.
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Michael Thorton - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:25:02 EST ID:BP7QyXf9 No.713931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713930
>is it normal to go through this game hollow like... 95% of the time? i have only very very rarely had any humanity up until now.

3 things;

Are you running on HDMI connection? that will cause input lag and make your actions less responsive

Are you just bad at timing? that'll get you killed if you're bad at timing

are you not levelling up/are you using shit weapons? go get the hand axe from the merchant in the berg and just spam R1 everywhere you go mixing in a kick every once in a while.
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Rayman - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 14:49:23 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713931

yep its xbox 360. i would say i am "decent" at timing, i mean ive managed to kill a few bosses and stuff. im lvl 21 using a +3 halberd. also i gave my burning ember to the blacksmith, he was like "i can make you great shit with this you wont regret it!" but he never made me anything. does that just unlock the specific type of ascension for later when the weap is +5?
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Nick Havoc Parker - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 15:15:30 EST ID:j2Vc2UOA No.713934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713932
It allows him to upgrade your weapons in different ways now, so now he might be able to make your weapons do lightning damage if you find the right stone or whatever it is to imbue it or whatever. There's more than just the +X ascenscion tree.
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Nick Havoc Parker - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 15:15:30 EST ID:j2Vc2UOA No.713935 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713932
It allows him to upgrade your weapons in different ways now, so now he might be able to make your weapons do lightning damage if you find the right stone or whatever it is to imbue it or whatever. There's more than just the +X ascenscion tree.
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Rayman - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 16:36:45 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713935

also in addition to wasting the moonlight butterfly soul for a pisspoor amount of souls, i accidentally got the pyro trainer killed by the graveyard skellies. so no magic for me until later (i looked up that there is a secret trainer in blight town). cant believe how easy it is to completely fuck yourself in the ass through one simple mistake in this game lol
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Oxanna Kristos - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 17:07:20 EST ID:2bhmEXnU No.713940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>how easy it is to completely fuck yourself in the ass

Fucking, when I first got the game, I attacked the crestfallen dude sitting by firelink, and he kicked my shit in. Then he immediately did it again as soon as I respawned, and after like 30 minutes I made a new game. Also accidentally hitting R1 in front of the blacksmith, i dont even know how many times i've done that. But getting the pyro dude killed by skeletons is hilarious.
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Kim Kaphwan - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 19:02:16 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.713944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713940

>I attacked the crestfallen dude sitting by firelink

But why?

He's the first guy you meet that isn't out to kill you, besides Oscar. You didn't kill Oscar did you?
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Lord of Shadowgate - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 19:08:02 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.713945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713944
Also (although I could be remembering incorrectly) I'm pretty sure you had to actually hit him a couple times before he'd fight back
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Sora - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 04:44:38 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.713967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713937

well i beat the gaping dragon. it sure was easier when i stopped autotargeting lol.and my god if that 25k souls didnt feel like a breath of fresh air. also picked up the drake sword with a shortbow. i honestly dont like it as much as the halberd. your chops can get blocked by the wall whereas the halberd is straight. ill keep using it though just to get a varied sense of different weapons. anyway next should i head to darkroot basin or blight town?
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Feng Wei - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 04:55:41 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.713968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713967
I hated Blight Town, between the endless poison darts, mosquitoes, and falls it's just discouraging to play.

If you go through New Londo (go down the stairs at firelink , don't cross the bridge to New Londo proper, instead look for an elevator going up to valley of the drakes), then go through the valley of the drakes, right across the first bridge is an cave that skips basically all of blight town.
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Red XIII - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 08:04:17 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713968
You need the Mater Key to go through though.

Blight town can be easy if you just suicide rush through it a few times, learning the quickest way down to the muck. The main elevator down is on the left side assuming you are looking off the cliff face towards the muck below, along with the way out of blight town to the next bell. There is a easy to find bonfire down there too, so you can reverse hallow and get some help for the trials ahead.

Keep it up man, I love reading your updates.
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Gabe Logan - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:04:01 EST ID:753d1cEs No.713995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I started DS3 80 hours ago. Pretty fun but I don't know if its more forgiving or the fluidity it has but it feels a tad easier than DS1.

Been rocking the Millwood GB and man this thing is so useful (Protip: Dragonslayer arrows will blow up in ART mode too and are a tad cheaper. The damage trade-off is negligible too) it made the Irithyl dungeon a walk in the park.

I got hella lucky last night, like I finished the pontiff and went on an item run obviously so naturally I got to that Mimic used a charm got the set item and went on with my business. I went back for something and I had to use the lift because I almost get cheesed by those damn hounds for answering the phone and I saw something glowing and thought I was lucky enough to get that lizard next to the Mimic to respawn and it turns out I looted a Symbol of avarice (first time ever in the series) and didn't even notice (also lucky enough to find it after defeating Aldrich).
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Kuma - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:33:12 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.713997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713992
>just suicide rush through it a few times

Yeah this kinda works, mostly to kill those toxic dart guys (they don't respawn thank god). Without those guys it's easier and you can take your time without being blindsided too much.

Here's a silly thing I sometimes did to save myself some time and possible headache for fighting the boss down there.
>Farm titanite from the leeches
>Rest at shrine at the bottom of Blight Town
>go up the elevators all the way back to Firelink
>don't rest anywhere inbetween and don't die
>visit the blacksmith to upgrade your gear
>homeward bone instantly back to Blight Town

You can do the same to get the rusted iron ring if you forgot to get it (or didn't know about it yet).
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Red XIII - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:32:16 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.713999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713997
Yeah getting in and out of Blighttown is such a nightmare I try to go around and spend as little time there as possible.
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Oxanna Kristos - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 10:39:00 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>713995
Nice, I've only ever had one in DkS. It was a lot of fun using it for farming, plus it's just fuckin badass looking.
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Tetra - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:57:14 EST ID:DabY7/k6 No.714002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714001

Dark Lewis and the Sews?
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Dr. Mario - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 14:30:00 EST ID:O/Hcubtv No.714008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Goddamn, I just 100%ed Bloodborne with the DLC! After never even expecting to finish the damn game months after getting it, this is blowing my mind! I've never platinumed anything before this and can't believe its on a Fromsoft game.

Anyways, just really happy with myself.
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Krystal - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:52:20 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.714013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Can't stop playing Dark Souls 2. So much build viability and variety. Playing an Offensive Miracle right now, next build I wanna duel wield Blue Flames and just have constant orbs surrounding me. And after that, I wanna try a defensive Miracle pacifist build... Kill nothing, summon people to kill the bosses and buff/heal them. Should be fun, nothing I've ever done before.
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Oxanna Kristos - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 17:02:30 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714013
That's one thing that was really fun about Dark Souls 2.
They were kinda compensating for how weak the clerics were in Dark Souls so they made the clerics strong as shit. They even had to nerf lightning spear at one point because it was too OP. I never did defensive or team oriented miracle build, but I know that Soothing Sunlight and the one that buffs your defenses are both really fucking strong. Soothing Sunlight takes a bit of finesse to pull off properly, but if you've got practice it can be very powerful.
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Yuri - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:23:22 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.714026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714013
dark souls 2 gets a lot of shit, and I understand the criticisms completely, but in my opinion it was just as fun to play as any other soulsborne game and I definitely played it just as much as all the others
when the DkS remaster comes out and I get tired of it once again i'll probably pick up scholar of the first sin to replay that too
now if they would only remaster demons I could have the entire soulsborne collection on ps4 but that seems unlikely. god demons would probably be amazing with DkSIII/Bloodborne graphics and tightened up everything, made the movement a little more fluid etc.
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Four - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:43:16 EST ID:yMc3W1Gb No.714027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714008
Its an ez platinum. From software trophies are easy in general, except for Demon Soul's which you need an item that has 0.0001% drop rate to max upgrade a weapon.
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Four - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 23:48:05 EST ID:yMc3W1Gb No.714028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714026
Demon Soul's is perfect just the way it is. No need to make another Dark Souls game with a different paint. I have very fond memories of recking players with the Dragon bone smasher that i dont want the DkS community to understand.
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Jarl Balgruuf - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 00:18:33 EST ID:5gc9R2I5 No.714030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714027
Dark Souls 3 isn't really hard it's just a long unnecessary grind... Like many Platinum trophies. Bloodborne's Platinum trophy is perfect IMO. Never played DS2.
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Yuri - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 00:43:34 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.714031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714028
the DBS was just so ridiculous looking that I never used it but good lord I remember a lot of people online using it and pushing my shit in
there was another weapon that people online used a lot that was infuriating but I cant remember what it was. I think it was a katana of some sort
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Banjo - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 01:08:58 EST ID:cD+qQIk0 No.714032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714028

Demon's Souls also had the coziest hub
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Four - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 01:17:58 EST ID:fpKf6GPb No.714033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714030
Yeah it was long and pointless. Definitely one of the platinum trophies im least proud off. It was basically just running back and forth from bonfire to backstabbing silver knights.

>>714031
Kilij was my weapon of choice. I only used the DBS to push people of the ledge in 4-2. I was basically using it like a baseball bat, and the skeletons provide the perfect distraction for me to hit the home run. I might still have all the hate mail i got from all the mad players i managed to royally piss off. I think it was the Uchigatana that the weaboos used the most.

I really thought the World Tendency system was brilliant.i wished it would carry on but ut didn't, which kinda pissed me off when i play DkS.
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Bubsy - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 01:21:01 EST ID:EVJESE/g No.714034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714032
Yeah I feel like they tried to emulate the nexus in dark souls 3 with the new firelinkbut failed
3's hub is cool and all but nowhere near as cool as the nexus, which just felt so right and homey especially after plowing through some hard areas
Dat music, dem friendly npcs, dat qt maiden in black chilling on the steps and shit. It was mysterious and comforting at the same time
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Four - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 01:29:52 EST ID:fpKf6GPb No.714035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714032
Yeah, speaking of which, i love the Maiden in black theme that plays in the Nexus, but the musicians keep fidgeting around that its very distracting. I love this sound track, but everytime i try to listen to it with my headphones, i cant help but anticipate the next time the musician is going to fuck up. I can't listen to it using my headphones because of him, and it bothered me to a point where i actually got the CD and and made FLAC copies of songs just to see if it could help but nothing.
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Four - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 01:34:15 EST ID:fpKf6GPb No.714036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714034
>I'm sorry. I cannot die. Not while the Nexus binds me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY-CEFD8X1Q
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Larry Laffer - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 03:58:36 EST ID:m7HcOeuR No.714041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714035
nig they didn't fuck up if that's the way they put it out then that is the way it's supposed to be
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Dr. Isaac Kleiner - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 04:09:02 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.714042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714026

Dark Souls 2 is my favorite. I've spent a great deal of time defending it and frankly I just don't care anymore what the memesters say... It improved over it's predecessor in just about every way, and what did DS3 do better over either title besides look better? So ya, love me DS2.
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Sonic the Hedgehog - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 04:28:22 EST ID:DabY7/k6 No.714043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have never played Dark Souls, but I did play Demon's Souls for a brief time on the PS3. My only memory of it is of endlessly running through the first castle entrance area over and over again timing my moves before being killed by a boss on a wall. If I may give it another try sometime.
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King Dodongo - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 06:52:15 EST ID:j2Vc2UOA No.714047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>71404

DS2 definitely gets a bad rap, but I enjoyed my time with it quite a lot, and the DLC is great. Level design is a little uninspired and a lot of the bosses are pretty boring / easy / just another big fucking knight, but the fashion souls is on point and it's the only souls game with the twin blades.

I'm glad to have one Souls game that feels quite different to all the others, rather than DS2 being half way between 1 and 3. Itd just it's own thing.
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Seath the Scaleless - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 07:23:36 EST ID:IqI8maV3 No.714049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714042

Something about the atmosphere, graphics and armor design of DS2 just makes it my favorite.

I need to replay it
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Four - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 08:42:39 EST ID:ovJg2tc1 No.714055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714041
It fucking sucks then. You can hear him touch the strings by mistake at one point in the song, its fucking infuriating. Im just lying on bed, high listening to music,
and this guy just wont sit still and wont hold his bow correctly. Ruined would could possible be my favorite theme of all time.
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Agent 47 - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:44:29 EST ID:kKSHmi7l No.714062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714042
Except for lore, storytelling, and atmosphere, sure.
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Kessler - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:49:08 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.714063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>713992

havent had much time to play as i would like lately but i tried to go down to blight town and, fuck me in the ass, i cant even get past the fat guy with the club, the first mob lol. he keeps smacking me off the ledge every time. i need to git more gud. ill try to parry him next time
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Clank - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 09:56:14 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.714064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714063
You can parry him or just run past his ass like I suggested. Those dudes suck all the dicks
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Kessler - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 16:54:06 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.714080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714064

idk man. as i beat each area i have sometimes watched youtube clips of pros doing speedruns n shit and they tend to sprint past all mobs right to white fog but since this is my first playthrough i want to clear whole areas, get as many items as possible, explore secret areas, etc. i am a huge completionist in these types of games. but yeah if its just one fat guy with a club maybe i will puss out and just go past him. when you guys got more advanced is that how you handled most of the annoying mobs, just run past? or does anyone else masochistically force yourself to try to beat them? also no one answered me earlier if its normal to almost always be hollow. did you notice a certain point in the game where you held onto humanity for longer? like i have only kindled the firelink flame, thats how shit i am at keeping my humanity.
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Uriel Septim - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:01:37 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714063
I've beat the game like 8 times and only killed one of those dudes a few times. I always just run past them. Even when you're really strong late game, it's really easy for those assholes to kill you.
I recommend running past them. Or if you feel the need to kill every mob, come back and kill them later. I'm pretty sure they were only put there to run past because they're way stronger than you are at the point when you get to blighttown.

But if you really want to kill them, just be super careful. Make sure you pull one of them at a time and stay out of their range. Roll away or roll in after they swing then get a hit or 2 in. Keep doing that and be patient. Or cheese them with spells and throwing weapons.
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Birdo - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:14:18 EST ID:FPKTAZoZ No.714084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714063
>>714081
I ran out of steam with this game in Blighttown. Never had any big problems with the fat dudes, somehow it was pretty easy to drop them from the bridge iirc. But down there with the poison? And a new platform area with the skeletons after that??

Goddamn that game is so fucking good but it also requires you to be brave and I didn't have it then. Maybe I should pick it up again.
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Kessler - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 18:34:18 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.714085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714084

completely agree about the game requiring you to be brave. each boss, my biggest obstacle was my fear. taurus demon? shit my pants and run like a scared baby for that ladder. capra demon? shit my pants and pray to jesus i can dodge his first lunge. gaping dragon? shit my pants until i calm down and realize his patterns are easy as fuck. only the moonlight butterfly hasnt scared me yet lol. only reason the bell gargoyle didnt make me shit my pants was because i had my nigga solaire
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Rayne - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:05:34 EST ID:8vcVU0nM No.714088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714085
My fear was the basilisks.

That, and invaders who kill you in one shot, or rolling off a cliff.

>I got this
>I got this
>I got this
>dodge roll off a cliff i forgot was there
>YOU ARE DEAD
>mfw
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Meta Knight - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 19:07:12 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.714089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714088

when im talking to myself in a frantic voice i call them "shitty curse frogs"
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Shodan - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:24:31 EST ID:EVJESE/g No.714092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714088
I rarely PvP but can guarantee I've definitely accidentally killed my self more often than not during invasions
I get so nervous and high adrenaline I forget to what my back for mobs and cliffs and such
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Manny Calavera - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:27:13 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.714094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714080
Well one of the best things about DS is that you can blindly run into a new area and explore/loot shit to your hearts content without worrying about dying, since you just come right back to do it again. The loot you keep so you don't have to worry about returning to some of the more troublesome areas once cleaned out. You get to feel out an area, learns some of the ambush's and traps and learn what to expect for when you make a legit run at a zone.
There are like 3 or 4 fatties up top on Blighttown and they are the least of your problems. Once past them you have a large open area where you will be attacked near relentlessly by mosquitoes and assholes with blowdarts. Learning the quickest way in and out of that bitch is essential.
It is normal to almost always be hallow. Being human only increases your item find (I think), your hp and lets you get invaded/invite others to co-op. Even on replays I'm usually only human with certain builds or if I am looking to pvp. Humanity early on is pretty scarce to try and stay human. Just use it when you need a hand, or want to see more content. There are some pvp encounters that are not what they seem
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Rayne - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 20:50:14 EST ID:8vcVU0nM No.714096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714092
Yeah, i don't intentionally PVP, i think i've maybe won 2 PVP matches during my entire playthroughs of DS1 and 2, and 2 of them was in the bell tower, i remember that me and my buddy was just doing our jolly co-op thing in the bell tower in DS2, when someone came to defend, i told him don't get involved , so me and the guy can duke it out, suddenly someone else showed up and it became a tag team match in the bell tower.

I don't think i've had that much fun PVPing in Dark Souls since.
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Lance Bean - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 13:40:54 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just beat Gascoigne in BB. First time playing through.
I actually beat him twice but my ps4 froze right after beating him the first time. Pissed me off because I was kinda cheesing him, hiding behind gravestones, and when it came back after I restarted my ps4 all of the gravestones were destroyed so I had to actually fight him like a man. Oh well, I think I'm better off for it. I only died to him once which I'd say means I did pretty well, as I'm still having a lot of trouble with the differences between Dark Souls and Bloodborne. Like for instance, the fact that you can get hit when you're on the ground. I've died quite a few times to that because I'm expecting to have to wait tog et back up, and have an invulnerable period, but nope!

Game is very fun so far. Just took the brooch to the little girl and planning on heading into the area just past Gascoigne later on today.
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Wolf O'Donnell - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 14:53:11 EST ID:qLAFxqOH No.714120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714118
I want to play bloodborne so fucking badly, somebody on Craigslist is selling a PS4 for $150, if I can talk them down to $120 is this worth it for one game?
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Lance Bean - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 15:25:01 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714120
I got my ps4 just for the one game (plus insulation in case my graphics card goes out on my pc). I'd be able to say for sure after I've beaten it but I think it's worth it.
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Nodunaga Oda - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 02:54:29 EST ID:j2Vc2UOA No.714138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714120

In my opinion, yes. Blood borne is possibly the best game I've ever played. The atmosphere is just beyond.
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Four - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 04:16:50 EST ID:2e3z561h No.714139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714138
>>714121

Come on, guys. I love Bloodborne as much as the next guy, but it aint worth buying a console just to play one game. Thata a 120 plus whatever bloodborne is gonna cost him, maybe 40 in a sale. Thats 160 dollars to play bloodborne. Aint worth it, not even if you through in the other Darksouls games too.
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Mokujin - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 04:34:26 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.714140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714139
I'm a giant soulsborne fan and have to agree with this too
now, if he is interested in the other exclusives or doesnt have another console already thats a whole nother story but just for BB would be nonsense
I want to play breathe of the wild but I aint buying a switch for it because its the only thing i'd play, this is the same deal. Waste of money
Exclusives really are a bitch
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Ryu Hayabusa - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:07:52 EST ID:h+u5/93O No.714144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>714139

Yeah but you can also get Sentan Kagura PBS which has VR Diorama after the update
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Cole Phelps - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:27:21 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.714146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714139
>>714140
That's your opinion, but it's wrong.

I wanted to play Bloodborne for a really long time. Wanting to play it for like 3 years plus PS4's being super cheap now, like $150 = very much worth it. Maybe if you're a broke ass, then no it's not worth it.

Also, the breath of the wild analogy is just stupid... Come on...
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Krystal - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 10:44:02 EST ID:o7v2cc0f No.714148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714140
You can emulate BOTW (and most switch games) via CEMU.
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Lan Di - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:17:28 EST ID:+neHwTi/ No.714149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714139
Im not trying to shit on people or call them poor, but I make about $160 a day. 160 really isn't that expensive. I've spent more on dates. It's not so outrageous to spend $160 on a console for one game. People buy 3ds's just for Pokemon.
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Capt. Olimar - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 12:46:10 EST ID:XdYSvujq No.714150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714149

not many of us are making 60k a year lol
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Ultros - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 14:51:23 EST ID:rezFDLbL No.714157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714139
The thing is I already have the other souls games on PC, but if Demons Souls will work on PS4 then I am completely sold. I have a sinking feeling that I'd need to get a PS3 if I wanted to play demons souls...
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Lucas - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 15:04:34 EST ID:FJboFaXM No.714158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714148
CEMU emulates Wii U games
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Earthworm Jim - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 15:14:22 EST ID:k+BXAxY7 No.714159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714157
Well, apparently demons souls doesn't work on PS4, but if you make a Japanese psn account you can rent demons souls from the store, except everything is in Japanese. Which is pretty shitty that you can't just outright buy the game, like wtf Sony. Idk, I probably won't get a PS4 for bloodborne cuz I can't even think of another PS4 exclusive that I'd want to play...
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Isa Jo - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 16:13:32 EST ID:xYL25yzy No.714217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Sonia Belmont - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 23:57:43 EST ID:+neHwTi/ No.714221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714150
It's around 40k a year, its not that much. Im a high school drop out who works in construction, im sure plenty of you have better jobs than me.
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Yuna - Wed, 14 Feb 2018 16:13:30 EST ID:R5u869Py No.714468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>714084
>>714064
>>714094

well i got used to the drake sword and i appreciate its higher damage than the other weap i was using (+4 halberd) and i leveled up a bit so i am getting better at killing the fat guys and the purple guys. i also got the spider shield so ive managed to resist poison so far... those fuckin fire dogs killed me though. i presume i was close to a bonfire but i dont have the patience to do it again today.
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Death Adder - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 18:20:02 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.715191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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MFW I'm determined to take down Sister Friede for good this time!

This bitch is fucking scary. The sounds she makes during the fight are fuckin horrifying.
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Hong Yun-seong - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 17:52:38 EST ID:gdeibF1I No.715394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bloodborne for PC
When?
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Gray Fox - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 18:06:50 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.715395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715394
You realize it's co-developed and published by Sony, right?
In short: years from now whenever ps4 emulation becomes a thing
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Samus Aran - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 18:40:23 EST ID:nCQB5c4d No.715396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Bloodborne on PC
>The game looks no different then Dark Souls
>Dark Souls is already on PC
I honestly don't get you guys, why would you want a game on PC that you already played a long time ago?
Maybe the setting is different, but the game itself is the same Dark Souls with a different design.
They both are fully identical, so I don't get the hype of Bloodborne, aside of it being made by the guy who created Dark Souls.
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Ezio Auditore da Firenze - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 19:00:19 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.715398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>715396

Um what? Bloodborne looks fucking fantastic, since when did we get a good cosmic horror game on PC? Conarium is the only one. But that one is a walking simulator and Bloodborne is a Souls game as well. So far we have 3 souls-games on PC and we all have played those to death and we still want more. PC Bloodborne would sell af, mark my words.

Sony is retarded, that's the truth. As a PC gamer I will never ever buy a PS just to play Bloodborne, but I would fucking throw my money at hell even a shit port of the game. I mean I beat DS Prepare to Die with a keyboard and mouse.
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Alyssa Hamilton - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 19:38:54 EST ID:nCQB5c4d No.715399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715398
Play Nioh, it's far more superior.
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Ezio Auditore da Firenze - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 19:51:57 EST ID:FqTfAZAX No.715400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715399

I have, it's good. But there's also a lot of bullshit gameplay wise in it, especially the bosses.
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Space Invader - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 20:46:21 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.715403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715396
>They both are fully identical
>Maybe the setting is different but, the game itself is the same Dark Souls with a different design.

Lol. There's plenty of design choices that, ya'know if you'd actually played the game, would make you realize that Bloodborne plays out much faster than Dark Souls. Most obvious is of course the lack of any consistently useful shield, but the regain mechanic, longer parry range due to using a gun instead, lack of a weight system, trick weapons and way more leads to the game being much faster paced and making it in general much more beneficial to play aggressively. But I guess they're the same because it's the same developer? That's some silly ass logic, homey.

Though judging from your second post you just like bitching about consoles, so this will probably fall on deaf ears anyway.
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Lightning - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 23:42:02 EST ID:Wr30sFZ0 No.715411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715398
Same here, there's no way I can justify buying a pa4 for ONE game, no matter how badass bloodborne is. The entire PS4 library is complete shit or multi platform, like there is no other reason to have one.

I would, however, pay $40 to borrow someone's PS4 and bloodborne for two months.
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Kasumi Koto - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 00:10:13 EST ID:+neHwTi/ No.715412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715411
Some people just don't really like fucking with computers, i got a ps4 for a lot of the computer ports they have on there, like divinity and pillars of eternity. I don't really like playing games with a mouse and keyboard, I know im going to get alot of shit for that. Also the weeaboo games like persona and the tales of series, I know they're on pc, but again im just not really a pc guy. I only use them for emulators or pc only games like the first witcher.
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Pitfall Harry - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:25:59 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.715413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715398
>>715411
Great console wars bullshit guys. Way to contribute to the board.
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Lei Wulong - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 01:41:59 EST ID:uxksxO4O No.715414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
still on my first dark souls playthrough here. i beat quelaag, now i am going to try to hit up the catacombs with a divine weapon cause sens fortress is still intimidating me a bit.
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Pimple - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 03:22:33 EST ID:VsQJM6ph No.715419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715414
most dangerous thing about sen's funhouse isn't even the enemies its all the fuckin traps in there
no matter when you go you're probably going to die a lot if its your first time through, its just intentionally designed to knock you around like a little bitch, but as long as you remember what trap caused those deaths and figure out a way around or through them you'll get the hang of it.
The boss at the top is a complete pushover too but what awaits after that is in my opinion the best and most fun area of the whole game
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Kasumi Koto - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 04:00:30 EST ID:+neHwTi/ No.715422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>715414
Sens fortress isnt that bad, I had more trouble with the tomb of the giants. And Anor Londo is a great level
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Pitfall Harry - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 04:08:13 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.715423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715414
Best way to take on Sen's is just to take your time. Take a tactical approach to every enemy. Pull them away from dangerous spots and try to take them one at a time. And of course watch for traps around literally every corner. Any corner you turn in that place could be your death.
Spoiler: When you get to the top of the fortress and go outside, look down off the edge. There's a bonfire down there. I wish someone had told me about that, would have saved me a rage quit and I could have beat the game a year sooner.
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Niko Bellic - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 05:12:22 EST ID:2O+EjG2I No.715430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715403
I played Bloodborne, Dark Souls 3 was better.
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Jack Rex - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:52:41 EST ID:h+u5/93O No.715436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715423
Alternative best way to do Sens fortress, after dying a bunch exploring- run like hell to unlock the shortcuts and bonfire, ignoring all lizard people
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Space Invader - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 10:50:09 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.715440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715430
Congratulations on having an opinion I guess, but how the fuck is that relevant to a discussion of if Bloodborne is identical to Dark Souls 1?
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Yugo Ogami - Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:31:49 EST ID:uxksxO4O No.715877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715414

i didnt go to the catacombs after all. i pushed hard and went into sen's fortress and knew there was no way out but forward. got the electric spear and now im starting to kick ass a lot more easily. plus my vitality is finally over 20 so i feel like i can take a little bit of hits. i made it to anor londo, and it's punishing but i'm making progress. last thing i did was defeat the 2 gargoyles, i heard O&S are the boss of this place and are crazy difficult, we shall see
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Sora - Sun, 11 Mar 2018 23:41:06 EST ID:+neHwTi/ No.715878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715877
I literally used a flame long sword, a dark knight greatsword, and a grass crest shield for most of dark souls.
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Kim Kaphwan - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 03:15:42 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.715886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715877
If you press on you got something good for that spear in the future.
Also try to kill the fat man first.
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Soma Cruz - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 14:46:45 EST ID:kAnS0XUn No.715901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just got into Dark Souls and bought Dark Souls 2. What should I expect?
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Ebisumaru - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 21:17:17 EST ID:aBgAYqXf No.715920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715901
To die, a lot

Take your time, push forward slowly, keep your fucking shield up non stop
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Viewtiful Joe - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:40:12 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.715926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715878
It can't be overstated how great the Grass Crest Shield is.

>>715901
What guy above me said but also remember that death isn't super important. You will die a shitload but even if you lose a shitload of souls it's not the end of the world. You have to get into the mindset that death is an integral part of the game and that every one is a learning experience.
Also, I've got a bad gaming habit of after dying, trying the same strategy over and over again until it works. Don't do that lol, or you'll end up rage quitting.
Just try to think outside of the box. Most of it is fairly intuitive, but the combat system and how you deal with mobs can be extremely dynamic from player to player so stay open minded to your approach. It's fun to find an exploit or a unique way to take on a group or a single enemy.

I just got to Unseen Village in Bloodborne and promptly got buttraped so I decided to do some Chalice Dungeons until my buddy is around to help me out. I'm kinda enjoying the chalice dungeons. It's an interesting concept to have procedurally generated souls levels. The combat in it isn't the greatest but I can't complain about extra content and the bosses have all been fun so far. At first I couldn't decipher what the fuck chalice dungeons are but thankfully I found a youtube video to explain it all to me. They really don't explain shit, they just throw a tombstone, an item and e menu at you and tell you to figure it out. Pretty much just like everything else in this game.
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Wario - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 05:39:22 EST ID:UcENjjuY No.715938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715901
In DS1 shield can be your best friend for survival, in DS2 not so much.
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Kain - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:12:13 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.715951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715938

And that's a good thing. Shields having 100% physical defense in DS1 was cheap, and ended up being a huge crutch for awful players.

What DS2, the changes to shields makes for a far more challenging game. But of course, people will cry despite the whole draw of the series being it's challenge and difficulty.
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Viewtiful Joe - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:05:40 EST ID:uKhYx3Wy No.715952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715951
Lmao no.

Carrying a 90% or 80% shield makes absolutely no difference when you've got a stockpile of gems.
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Lucas - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:21:22 EST ID:JzBfCkUx No.715953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715951
DS2 has a slight delay for the shield to actually start blocking compared to DS1. You can probably get used to it but it is way less effective in a tight situation. Especially if you go straight from 1 to 2.
Helped me become a better player as blocking simply wasn't an effective crutch anymore
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Franziska Von Karma - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:20:42 EST ID:aSc5J18V No.715958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715951
I always liked the Souls games for their lore/setting and tone, not their difficulty. FS does some amazing world building.
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Mayor MacCready - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:28:30 EST ID:hJzV94Ty No.715959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>715952

Lmao yes. In order to use gems, you've still got to stop blocking, press the action key, and wait for the animation to play out hoping you timed it just perfectly so that you don't get hit. It's also a gradual restoration of health, so you've still got to be careful.

I didn't like lifegems, but the people who point to them as some example of where Dark Souls 2 went wrong are retarded.

Idk if you know this, but maximum estus flasks in DS1 = 20. You understand? TWENTY. 20. In DS2? Twelve. So yeah, they seemingly added an optional health restorative item to compensate for the decreased amount of overpowered estus flasks you could acquire in the previous game. It's a fair trade off IMO.
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Quan Chi - Wed, 14 Mar 2018 14:43:29 EST ID:FJboFaXM No.715975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did this just hit the bump limit?

Someone make a new one


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