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Games suck now by DAYMAN !!6N4WUaSg - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 17:18:51 EST ID:vMDsAbMH No.708457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They have focused expertances
>fucking DOW3 was moaba
>TWII didn't fix diddly and is a fucking expansion pack
>there are hidden Christian messages in Call of Dookie, we've been here before
>indie games look like garbage for children
>autistic chicken lol
>games are to long
Or to short
>no sense of accomplishment
>give me old school like HALO or some shit not modern storytelling bullshit politics time

YouTube is demonetized now, which is like having a pet dog, just a whole new level of bullshit
Blade & Striker - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:06:57 EST ID:76fnbDtf No.708460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't just complain like that. You have to fill out the form.
Toad - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 18:10:49 EST ID:VEln15qh No.708461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have no idea what OP is trying to communicate.
Please use complete sentences instead of fragments, acronyms, and references.
Morrigan Aensland - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:21:13 EST ID:Qp43yh0P No.708464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Schizophrenia is a hell of a drug
Gex - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 19:22:55 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You make very little sense but this thread has been made like 100x.

The issue isn't games sucking, it's that you pick shitty games. Get better taste.

Lei Wulong - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:26:42 EST ID:GtlPNKfR No.708474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Taki - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 22:41:04 EST ID:ZpIQgGK4 No.708475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>autistic chicken
>youtube is like having a pet dog
Kit Ballard - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 23:24:37 EST ID:vYz1JSxS No.708476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The youtube shit has me most pissed off because about 70-80% of the channels I watch have went to making 1 video a month or are releasing 400 shit quality videos a month to try and soak up ad revenue. All while being so painfully PC at the same time. This shit is just fucking ridiculous. Youtube is worthless now. There are just a few lingering archives from channels now basically defunct. Otherwise the adpocalypse has made it unbearable. Because there is no good content anymore.

Fucking gay.
DAYMAN !!6N4WUaSg - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:58:36 EST ID:vMDsAbMH No.708479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I meant to type autistic children but I kind of like autistic chicken now so fuck it I'm keeping it, that's the story I'm shill and I'm sticking to it!

Have a dog is a work like YouTube I don't own a thesaurus so I can only things two ways or no ways you can't have it both ways

Yeah it's fucking The Great War and Military History Visualized hardcore, I really don't know if it's political but fuck it YouTube is a "tech" company an is oh so progressive, but fuck it they aren't getting my YouTube red in that case because I just want to hear about video games without a steaming hot bowl of political dog shit bringing me back to my point from above!!!!!!! Ahahahaha just when I had you fucks thinking I was a sophisticated forum user I proved you wrong!!!!! Ahaha!
Mayor MacCready - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 02:17:54 EST ID:y9mlyb8M No.708481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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youtube lets plays are basically friend simulators so its not surprising that the market has now been tapped to get peak revenues from 1) children and 2) the unemployable and desperate

its funny seeing the older ones get stalkers as their obsessed fans grow up and have mental breakdowns, this guy has donated 10 grand to pat from the super best friend's girlfriend so far this year going on meth fueled twitch donation binges
honk - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 02:55:49 EST ID:W51O2zS3 No.708483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't really know exactly what you're talking about, but maybe you should find another hobby or play better games...

nb, because shitty, negative thread.
Peppy Hare - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 03:18:07 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This might be a controversial opinion but I'm glad they're making less.

They shouldn't be able to make the kind of money that PewDiePie was making for doing such unskilled, untalented labor. I mean, sure yeah give them a bit of money. Enough to supplement their income. But in no way should any letsplayer be making six figures ever. There are some real garbage people that make decent money off of youtube and that job should not even exist.

For the real content creators that have gotten the shaft though, I feel sorry for them. But yelling at a screen while playing a video game is not creating content.

That bubble expanded, and now it popped. Move on and get a real job, letsplayers.
Four - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 03:35:27 EST ID:5WEt4Apz No.708485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah, i went through a period where i care more about the gaming industry than games themselves. I spent my off days watching YouTube channels of people talk about games rather than actually playing. I think i was depressed and unable to apply my self and put effort into playing anything. I was also highly critical of everything i played, comparing it to other games. Then i watched a video of this guy who ithink had the biggest video game collection in the world but had never the time to play them. I think he only spent three hours playing games a week. I thought that was the most depressingly stupid thing ever. It was just sad and i was doing the same thing he was, just collecting games like some obsessive adult and never playing like the kid i used to be. I had to change or lose my hobby. Thankfully im able to play video games without acting like an entitled bitch now.

Dark Queen - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 07:07:41 EST ID:VEln15qh No.708492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>They shouldn't be able to make the kind of money that PewDiePie was making for doing such unskilled, untalented labor.
You would have an argument if revenue and viewership was getting reallocated from regular, long, low-effort, low-quality shit that references popular shit to original, high-quality content.

When PewDiePie became Youtube's biggest asset, youtube should have either realized either:
a. Something's wrong, youtube should not be trying to serve low-effort shit and we shouldn't be steering ad revenue to favor the generation of monotonous low-effort bullshit, lets fix the algorithm so that peoples experience of Youtube is the best quality content that's on the platform and offer a greater cut of ad revenue to content that it's in our interest they make more of.
b. We created this guy, the only thing he has is the viewers we steer to him, lets fix him or replace him with someone we can shape to be our celebrity.

But the vitality that's no longer getting pumped into Letsplayers, react videos, toy ads, and Vloggers talking about clickbaity shit/drama isn't going into original animation, infrequent, quirky content, or high-quality productions, they're finding the few pennies they're still able to scrounge getting randomly, silently demonetized too.
Jarl Balgruuf - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:38:16 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.708503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I think i was depressed and unable to apply my self and put effort into playing anything
Well, thank fuck you're now able to really knuckle down and apply yourself to the art of playing video games.

All kidding aside, I've been there, but it just sounds funny hearing you say it that way
The Horned Reaper - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 08:58:36 EST ID:dqv5Uubv No.708504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so many "should's" in there, you should just be in charge of telling everyone what to do because you clearly understand the value proposition of advertising

<normative statements abound>
Chai Ka - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:39:01 EST ID:JAfM/azk No.708507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel that way now. I can play games I played as a kid just fine, but trying new stuff out, eh...it better be fucking incredible or I'm gonna give up rather quickly
Shadow the Hedgehog - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 09:54:28 EST ID:7qv2VIgb No.708508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Naw dawg, we're actually seeing the return of mid budget games and they're great. And a lot of good indies out there.
Brucie Kibbutz - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 10:55:03 EST ID:v2DRUnax No.708510 Ignore Report Quick Reply

CPGgrey gets $20k per video through his patreon. That blows my mind. His stuff isn't really that great.
Snow Villiers - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 11:08:16 EST ID:mDy5oEy0 No.708511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Naw dawg, we're actually seeing the return of mid budget games and they're great.
This, my mid-tier games been gone too long. For a while it was either AAA or indie, I'm glad we're getting that middle ground back.
Rayman - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:40:02 EST ID:+wi+F2zD No.708515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The real Resident Evil 7 that I've asking more
Rayman - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 12:40:36 EST ID:+wi+F2zD No.708516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been asking for!!!!
DAYMAN !!6N4WUaSg - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:35:47 EST ID:vMDsAbMH No.708518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow your pretty artarded, but reallly some made good point about middle ground games, BattlegetsnipedField 1 was just about the biggest turd ever, I played the Gallipoli mission and the Kiwitards had helmets on a sub machine guns, pure and utter cancer of my bonedoggle

>middle tear games like Fallout, AOE, japananstanimation are all good not money money money shit shows, battlefront II is just Femnazi shillery to ram down our throats the fact that Disney bought Star Whores

But oh well i read a lots of books instead because I can pretend the the characters are my favorite historical figures with machine guns at the battle of Waterloo

So yeah games suck and I'm not cainical asshole I'm a Huuuuuge comical asshole
Richard Aiken - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 17:57:51 EST ID:rjgRiRtB No.708532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been there too. Anhedonia sucks.
Peppy Hare - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 19:01:28 EST ID:tOn5hppq No.708535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>AAA games suck, all games suck
Earthworm Jim - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 21:57:17 EST ID:VEln15qh No.708545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CPGgrey gets $20k per video through his patreon. That blows my mind. His stuff isn't really that great.
It's a bit different. CGPgrey's patreons are essentially commissioning him to make his product, whereas Youtube has an algorithm that decides which videos to steer people to.
While I agree there are people who create more enjoyment per dollar, it's his patreons money and apparently they feel otherwise.

Pewdiepie's (and 99% of Letsplayers/X reacts) existence isn't because people saw him and decided to fund the generation of more content, it's because the youtube algorithm put that long, low-effort, easily indexed content infront of more people than quality content, and Youtube never fixed this.
For the record, Pewdiepie made 7.4 million in 2014.

While Pewdiepie shouldn't exist, someone in his position with twice as many subscribers as TV shows able to charge a third of a million for a 30 second ad ought to be making several times what Pewdiepie did:
Waluigi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 05:43:48 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.708557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He also has a pretty big staff that are paid reasonable salary I believe, and he doesn't put out a lot of videos. It's not an unreasonable amount to get paid.
Garcia Hotspur - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 09:54:31 EST ID:yMS2sK8k No.708570 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What does his staff do? He releases one video a month, typically summarizing what he learned from the latest book he's reading. That video is a bunch of hardcuts between stick figures. He also has a 2-guys-talking podcast with minimal editing.

Staff has got to be family that he's officially put on the payroll to help spread the wealth right? They can't be doing much because there's not much to do. Like the wife drags around stick figures in mspaint and gets the title of Art Director or something?

If he can get $20k per video, more power to him. I'm happy for anyone who can make a decent living. I was just surprised it's that lucrative. But now you're telling me he has a staff to make him coffee or something?
Waluigi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:02:40 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.708571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hahha. Jeez. No. The MSPaint artwork you criticize you couldn't make yourself. Unless you're trained well in a very specific field. It's meant to be minimally time-consuming, but it does require a lot of effort and skill. Probably at least 2 people on this. There's editing to be done, and proper syncing, which is very time-consuming. Sound engineer who also mixes all the audio. Maybe a sound designer for any relevant effects. Also there's likely a director of some sort, unless it's him. They likely also have some kind of secretary/scheduler, maybe an accountant if that's a separate person, and perhaps even a lawyer. And then, yes, there's what you call the "talent," him, who generally is paid a hefty share, in exchange for being basically a personal brand and selling out your very soul to a project.

Doesn't seem like this requires much until you realize that the production quality of many YouTube shows is roughly that of network TV in the late 80's and 90's. It's not great, but many put in work.
Garcia Hotspur - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:29:48 EST ID:yMS2sK8k No.708572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> The MSPaint artwork you criticize you couldn't make yourself. Unless you're trained well in a very specific field.

You're joking right? He's just using inkscape. You can learn to do work at this level in an afternoon. I encourage you to jump and give it a go. It's free and easy to use.

He's said himself that the whole design of the show is lifted from yatzee because it's something one person can easily handle.

> production quality of many YouTube shows is roughly that of network TV in the late 80's and 90's.

You're joking right? Please tell me you're joking. Not his at least.

Again... I watch his videos, they're decent. I'm super happy he's able to make good money doing it. But you're way overestimating what's being done here. Why can't you just be happy for him that he's raking in good money, without imagining all these fictional expenses? Does he need to be just-scraping-by for you to respect him?
Waluigi - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:34:41 EST ID:jtzcSksq No.708573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nope, I've actually only watched maybe 5-6 of his videos. He's stated pretty recently that the channel exists via a staff. ...Expect this with any YouTuber over, say, 600-700K subs.

And: as low as the quality of those videos are, you've never produced anything of that quality in your life. Or am I wrong?
Garcia Hotspur - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 10:43:15 EST ID:yMS2sK8k No.708574 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You'd be wrong. Also, it's not that the videos are low quality, as you've said... they're decent quality because they're interesting. It's just that I don't think they require as much labor as you're suggesting.

But I'm still interested in what the staff does and how large it is. Are the details about all the staffers he needs and what they're doing what he said, or is it just something you imagined up? I'm just guessing that he doesn't need two artists, an editor, a sound designer, and a secretary.
Jame Soloman - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 13:53:58 EST ID:LeEUsS4s No.708575 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>give me halo
Cool, a boring as fuck linear rail shooter with a mediocre stale plot
Kabal - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:17:56 EST ID:t6YSfVFt No.708597 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>rail shooter

opinion invalidated.
Duke Nukem - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:34:46 EST ID:WjpqU1nb No.708598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP is an obvious pleb. He is criticizing all games but only has knowledge of shitty AAA games.

OP is a casul. Get real OP go back to Bungie Forums
Zhang Jiao - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 01:54:08 EST ID:GtlPNKfR No.708602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Halo CE wasn't a rail shooter you dolt. Half-Life was more on rails than Halo.
Four - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:03:19 EST ID:URo2G1qb No.708614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nintendo had obsolete dominance over the handheld market. Why would they feel the need to merge the two like that?
Any new Nintendo handheld device is gonna end up competing with the Switch now. It wasnt like Vita was the threat that they had to up the graphics. The Wiiu didnt do well but i honestly blame the marketing. I liked owning Nintendo handhelds more than their consoles. Im kinda sad to see them go now.
Four - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 11:05:46 EST ID:URo2G1qb No.708615 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I really need to stop posting from my phone.
honk - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 00:26:04 EST ID:W51O2zS3 No.708690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You could also proofread your pots before you pot them.
Bill Rizer - Mon, 16 Oct 2017 02:56:50 EST ID:nDgs6g0v No.708693 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Are you kidding me? Maybe you don't understand you had to actually accomplish something other than shoot the bad guys in every zone. I have literally watched people's opinions of Halo turn to utter shit once enough of the technical side was comprehended.
M'Aiq the Liar - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 06:45:25 EST ID:twMXAL2b No.709066 Ignore Report Quick Reply


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